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down after trump appoints anthony scaramucci as communications director. garrett tenney joins us live, and what more have we learned about the shake-up? >> reporter: president trump hasn't been pleased with his communications team really since the inauguration, and in scaramucci, the president sees a media-savvy, self-made businessman with a reputation as a fighter. the two men have had a close perm relationship more years -- perm relationship for years. that's something that hasn't gone unnoticed. not everyone at the white house was onboard with this decision though. we're told that chief of staff reince priebus, press secretary sean spicer and steve bannon all strongly objected to bringing scaramucci job board. the new communications director yesterday dismissed reports that there is any beef between him and reince priebus. >> reince and i have been personal friends for six years. we are a little bit like

brothers where we rough each other up once in a while which is totally normal for brothers. you get that. but he's a dear friend. he brought me into the political system, he brought me into the republican national committee network, he introduced me to governor walker. we've spent many times together socially. >> reporter: last night on hannity, sean spicer said the president wanted him to stay, but with scaramucci joining the team, spicer felt it would be best for him to step down to give the administration something of a clean slate. >> did you feel you were pushed out in any way, or this was totally your decision? >> no. as you mentioned, the president obviously wanted to add to the team more than anything. i just think it was in the best interests of our communications department, of our press organization to not have too many cooks in the kitchen. >> reporter: and replacing sean spicer as press secretary will be sarah huckabee sanders, and there's a chance we may be seeing a lot more of her. scaramucci said they may consider bringing the daily

briefings back to being on camera. that'll be interesting. melissa: yeah. and you have more details about jeff sessions' meeting with russia? i mean, those have been all in the news this morning. >> reporter: yeah. "the washington post" is reporting that u.s. intelligence agencies intercepted conversations between russian ambassador sergey kislyak and moscow. in those calls which allegedly took place during the 2016 campaign, sources told the post that kislyak asserted he and sessions had discussed campaign campaign-related matters. now, if that's true, that would contradict what sessions has previously stated, that he had no contact with russian officials related to the campaign. the department of justice dismissed this report, issuing a statement saying: obviously, i cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intention intercept that "the washington post" has not seen and has not been provided to me. but the attorney general stands behind his testimony when he specifically addressed this and

said that he never met with or had any conversations with any russians or any foreign officials concerning any type of interference with any campaign or election. and this morning the president suggested the report is the result of a leak, tweeting: a new intelligence leak from the amazon washington post, this time against a.g. jeff sessions. these illegal leaks, like comey's, must stop. this report makes what was already looking to be a big week on capitol hill that much bigger. several trump aides are scheduled to testify and some of the ongoing russia investigations. melissa? melissa: from the amazon washington post because, of course, jeff bezos went ahead and bought "the washington post," although amazon did not. anyway, interesting stuff. i love it. garrett tenney, thank you. for more on all of it, let's bringing in daniel halper, contributing editor to the washington freebie can. a lot to mull over there. let's start with anthony scaramucci.

i was live yesterday when he did that press briefing. he handled everyone, i think, much better than anyone would have anticipated what's the reaction been like since then? >> yeah. look, it felt very, very different than a sean spicer press briefing. melissa: sure did. >> i don't know whether this resets with the press, i doubt it. but it's totally different. it suggests that the white house is going to try out something new, and we'll see whether it works. you've got to give the guy some time. he doesn't actually officially start until august 15th, so it's going to be a long, slow process. but, obviously, the white house needs to try something different to try to get different can results. melissa: yeah. i mean, it's a different approach in the sense that it's not combative. he was obviously very smooth and, you know, had a sense of humor and was teasing them. at the same time, he's not going to get pushed around in the slightest. he proved that, of course, with the run-in that he had with cnn when they went ahead and published a story they then had to retract and a apologize to

him about. he was gracious about that. he did try and deny, and i know the whole white house has tried to the deny that there's any tension between himself and reince priebus. let's listen to what he had the say about that. >> there's been some speculation in the press about me and reince, so i just want to talk about that quickly. reince and i have been personal friends for six years. we are a little bit like brothers where we rough each other up once in a while, which is totally normal for brothers. melissa: no matter what he says, there's been a ton of tension around his move to washington. now that he's in position, what do you think happens to reince priebus? >> the most interesting line of the press release last night from the white house was one line where it said he, scaramucci, reports directly to the president. now, usually communications directors or subordinates report to the chief of staff who then reports to the president. so it's clearly opening up a new line of command, a new chain of command in the white house. and in a way, i think it's

creating probably intentionally a sort of team of rivals. you have the reince team and then the scaramucci team, and they're all supposed to work, obviously, in tandem, but also in competition to please the president. this is, i think, how president trump ran the trump organization and how so far he's run the white house. he likes to have his people competing more his favor. -- for his favor. and, again, we'll see what the results bring. obviously, most presidents don't do it this way, but president trump has always been different, so we'll -- melissa: yeah. do you think it signals that they're competing against each other or something more serious? that reince priebus might be on his way out? >> who knows? that's the $64,000 question. i know there are a lot of people or who are close to scaramucci who are blaming reince priebus for keeping scaramucci out of the white house this long. it was thought that he was just going to go directly into the old valerie jarrett position, the office of public liaison. that never happened.

instead, he was kept out of the white house. he was eventually brought into the government, but in sort of, you know, different areas. so we'll see. obviously, if you're reince priebus, you do have to be a lot more worried than two days ago. melissa: without question. speaking of worry, what do you think about the story about jeff sessionsesome. >> well, i thought president trump's tweet was a little strange. it seemed to the confirm be it, and then the state department concern excuse me, the justice department's statement, it didn't deny what the report said, it just denied that there was no conversation with russian officials about campaign interference which is different than there was no conversation about the campaign which is, i think, what the report says. so it's -- everybody, it's like they're a bunch of lawyers all issuing statements, they all sort of talk past each other. obviously, i think the investigators, bob mueller, are working to figure out what's going on. melissa: i think the president's tweet cast a lot of doubt itself, saying it's a single anonymous source. we've seen these things floated

and then disproved or even retracted in the past. so it seems like his tweet was clear, that he was casting doubt on the whole entire story. >> i sort of read it as him confirming that the leak was legitimate. if something is reported that's totally false, it's not a leak. it's just wrong. if something's reported where there's some truth to it, then why call it a leak? i just thought -- melissa: zonk he's saying -- i don't think he's saying the paper made up there was a person who came in and told them that. it doesn't mean that the person saying this has credibility or doesn't have an axe to grind or, you know, is confirming it's true. just because there's a leak doesn't mean the leak is true. >> like i said, i just read it differently. the truth is we just don't know. this justice department's right, we haven't seen the memos, we haven't seen whatever intelligence this was based on, and we haven't heard from the spokeswoman of the justice department. there's a lot of things behind the scenes we don't know and obviously a lot of people many government who are displeased with people like jeff

sessions -- melissa: that is for sure. >> this' very concerning if -- that's very concerning if you are president trump. it's very hard to run an administration when people are trying to bring it down. melissa: thank you. thanks for coming on, we appreciate it. >> thank you. mike: former national security adviser susan rice met privately with the senate intelligence committee friday, her spokesperson saying, quote: ambassador rice met voluntarily with the senate select intelligence committeed today as part of the committee's bipartisan investigation into russia's interference in the 2016 u.s. presidential election. ambassador rice appreciates the committee's efforts to examine russia's efforts to interfere which violated one of the core foundations of american democracy. she was pleased the cooperate with the investigation given its extraordinary national significance. in this also comes after in -- this also comes after many republicans said they wanted to hear directly from rice over her or potential role in unmasking the identities of americans in reports last year.

joining us now, attorney bradley moss. you've written that what we know about susan rice's actions were not illegal or inconsistent, what about this issue of unmasking, revealing the identities of trump associates collected in intelligence gathering? >> sure, absolutely. happy to the help, mike. the way this works, there is set protocol, u.s. signals intelligence directorate 18 which governs procedures for how people can request that individuals' names be unmasked. someone like susan rice as the national security adviser didn't have the authority to compel or require unmasking. she could only request it. the request would go to the agency that a had made the original masking decision. both her request and whatever decision was made by the underlying agency, whether there was an approval or denial, would be documented including the basis for approving it. all of that is recorded for archival and accountability

purposes. and that's possibly most likely what the congressional committees have been looking at and reviewing in the course of also interviewing ambassador rice just friday. mike: south carolina congressman trey gowdy has had questions about who would have had access to unmasking. take a listen. >> would director brennan have access to an unmasked u.s. citizen's name? >> in some circumstances, yes. >> would national security adviser susan rice have access to an unmasked u.s. citizen's name? >> i think any -- yes, in general. and any national security adviser would, i think, as a matter of the ordinary course of their business. >> would former white house adviser ben rhodes have access to an unmasked citizen's name? >> i don't know the answer to that. >> would former attorney general loretta lynch have access to an unmasked citizen's name? >> in general, yes. as would any attorney general. mike: bradley, what does the fact that susan rice met with senate intelligence yesterday

tell you about where the probe is at this stage? >> well, there's always been a dual track, looking into any potential meddling and interference by the russian government in the election, but there was also this separate issue in terms there was anything improper or unethical about how the obama administration had collected and reviewed various intelligence that possibly implicated president trump or any of his associates during the course of the campaign or the transition. i think it's a very appropriate inquiry to make, it certainly should be accountability and make sure nothing was done improperly. but without more, all we know is it appears ambassador rice had made requests, that they were apparently approved. there's no evidence that's been publicly provided yet that would indicate she engaged in anything illegal or that she was the source of any of of the later and subsequent leaks of these names. mike: it feels like every day there's a major revelation on the front page of a newspaper. can you understand why this president and his team are furious about the stream of blockbuster leaks? >> shower, absolutely. and -- sure, absolutely.

and, look, leak ares happen in every administration. this president is new to government in the sense that he's never served before in any position, so he's new to the idea of not being able to control the flow of information. president obama prosecuted more leakers of classified information than any of his predecessors, so it's always a problem. this particular administration is simply struggling, i think, to cope and address how to accommodate and resolve this issue of the leaks and also how much to just let it, you know, slide off the side and not let every little piece of information that comes out so infuriate them. mike: last question very briefly, do you think somebody's going to go to jail at some point? >> there's already one leaker who's being prosecuted and who will most likely go to jail, reality winner. and it's likely that there will be some indictments if they can catch these individuals. and the current technological

environment, everybody has encryption on their phones, it's a lot easier to leak out information than it once was. we'll see if government finds who some of these leakers are. mike: attorney bradley moss, thank you very much. >> happy to help. melissa: chaos in california as a wildfire destroys homes and sends people running for their lives. is there any end in sight? plus, new potential problems for jared kushner. what the president's son-in-law and senior adviser neglected to mention in a financial disclosure report. (vo) when i brought jake home,

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the heataway. temperatures inside the jail reportedly surpassed 100 degrees. melissa: updated paperwork showing that jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, initially left out more than $10 million in his personal financial disclosures as the house and senate intelligence committees get ready to interview kushner about russia next week. meanwhile, donald trump jr. and former campaign chairman paul pl manafort striking a deal be the senate -- with the senate. joining me now is eric beach, the co-chair of the great american alliance and a pro-trump pac, and doug shoppe, a former adviser to president bill clinton and a fox news contributor -- doug schoen. eric, what do you make of the story? >> i think it's a a continuation of really a witch hunt by both the media and the democrats, and there's hypocrisy here. it seems there's a war against wealth and success that the

democrat party has been leading for the last 20 years. we don't talk about maxine waters and her $4.3 million, you know, home when she's been in office for 40 years. we don't talk about bernie sanders and his three houses. i've heard from the former sec chairman, mr. potter, and he's been cited as saying really this is not something that's -- yes, it should be disclosed, but at the end of the day, it's manager that's not, you know -- it's something that's not, it's something that happens all the time where these statements get revised. melissa: okay. doug, when you say $10 million, it sounds like a fortune. obviously, is a fortune. until you slice out that it was of an estimated $740 million. i mean, it's like 1.5% was left off as an error. >> well, i have a different view. melissa: yeah? >> look, first, we didn't hear in the disclosure about jared kushner's meeting with the russian banker.

presumably or potentially to obtain financing for his business in december of '16. a huge oversight. now $10 million has gone astray, including real estate and bonds. to me, very simple. take away his security clearance, refer the matter to -- melissa: doug, doug, doug, doug -- >> and we'll get -- melissa: you don't feel like you're getting a little bit hysterical? >> i'm not hysterical at all, melissa. melissa: out of $74 million? i mean, 1.5% -- >> i'm also talking about the russian banker he met with given that he was seeking financing a month before going into the administration. melissa: okay, eric, i'll let you take one. >> this isn't hysteria, these are facts. melissa: eric, what about the meeting with the russian banker? >> i think it'd be great at one point in time to identify what's a conflict of interest? it's just talking to a russian a conflict of interest? these are businessmen that are in dealings all the time and do business all around the world.

again, it's hypocritical to talk about, but it's been going on. really, there's a war against successful businessmen and women in this country, and that really needs to stop. there's no proof and no ed, i think we should not be irresponsible enough to say there's some conflicts of interest going on because of the timing. melissa: doug, i mean, what what do you think about the idea, and anthony scaramucci even talked about this yesterday, that there's this huge initial opportunity cost for anyone who goes to work in washington. and we certainly saw it this time, that when you go to work, you have to divest yourself of these assets that you basically have to the hand over everything you have or sell it at a fire sale price with the prospect of maybe working in washington and then sometimes it doesn't work out. we make the opportunity cost so high to business people that it doesn't -- i mean, it just, it costs them too much money to serve their country. don't you think that discourages people? >> let me put it to you way. i know anthony, he's a dear

friend of mine. there's a lot to the argument. what you haven't mentioned is people who do that get a tax break for it -- melissa: absolutely. they get a tax break on the gain, absolutely. they don't have to pay tax on the capital gain -- >> right. and that's a huge break. melissa: yeah, absolutely. >> and i would tell you a lot of people who have gone into government have not sold at fire sale prices. i don't think anthony sold at fire sale prices. by his own acknowledgment, there were three valuations of his business, and he got a fair price, and i'm very pleased he did. there shouldn't be a war on wealth. but you make a general point. it is much too difficult to serve this washington. there's far too much downside. i completely agree with the premise. but, you know -- melissa: okay. let me take the other side of the argument, eric, because in all of the business dealings that all of the trumps have done they have dealt with russians. i mean, even when you look back at rex tillerson and what he has done through his energy company, his energy dealings over time,

they do have of these relationships. and while it might be expected because if you have money and you're doing business, you're going to come in contact with russians with money, it still gives them a past relationship with people that are now at the other side of the table that we're ostensibly enemies with. does that compromise them? because this is going to continue to come up. >> no. we should be looking for common ground with -- yes, i know that russia is an enemy, but they also are, you know, number one ally or a top ally in the war against isis. we should look for common ground on how we should bring together some of these biggest countries. we used to call aha diplomacy. we used to call it utilizing relationships, and we used to think of that as an advantage for our leaders, not a disadvantage. melissa: we're going to leave it there, guys. thank you. >> thank, melissa. mike: stop me if you've heard this before, another roadblock for the republican health care bill. what it is and whether gop

leaders can work through the new hurdle. plus, justine damond shot and killed by a police officer in minneapolis. the police chief is now out of a job. could the mayor be next? >> this has been particularly difficult and heartbreaking and challenging and an awful week for the people of our city. i share people's frustration about the pace of change in policing and in building community trust. i work overtime when i can get it.

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parliamentarian taking this action. >> well, first of all, mike, it's good to be with you. and i know elizabeth, she's been there -- i couldn't tell you what elizabeth's politics are. she holds everything close to the vest. we have the utmost respect for her. she is very thorough and precise on her decisions, and she really studies it hard, so i will, i will accept that, and we will move on. and whatever it is, it is. i hope everyone else feels the same way. mike: senator, my sources on capitol hill have told me to expect a likely vote on tuesday on a senate health care package. do you have any idea what's in the bill? >> mike, i don't think even my republican friends and colleagues have anything -- there could be one of three versions they receive. so we haven't heard any more than that. i know that they're determined to have that vote. i was concerned about that, why they would continue to have the vote when it looks like the votes aren't there and it's going to fail. and i, for one -- and there's

many democrats, moderate democrats -- who are willing to sit down and start working on that today. i want that offer to be known, that we're willing to start whenever they feel that it's appropriate to start negotiating. and i think we can work something out, mike, i really do. mike: i know as a former golf i how refer to governors -- former governor you refer to governors as problem solvers. when senator mcconnell does what he does this week, do you have any idea about getting the former governors in congress to sit down. why is that, sir? >> first of all, mike, we call ourselves the recovering governors because we really -- [laughter] we really enjoyed making things happen. and it moves a little slower in the senate. there's 11 of us, four republicans, six democrats and one independent that were former governors. we've been talking together, and we feel very strongly, and we feel this: if we can't come together and find a pathway forward,st going to be unable for anybody to. the reason i say that, as former executives we work with budget

constraints, contentious legislators at times. and we think we can find that pathway forward. and everybody's got to give and take a little bit, but we can't throw the baby out with the bath water. i've said this, maybe the baby just needs changed, needs a diaper change. we can work on this. we can make medicaid more responsive, more cost effective and efficient without cutting people off, showing them better ways to live a healthier lifestyle. we can protect the private market and shore up the private market and have more product mix. we understand more choice and more product mix, but also we have the chronic illnesses we can't throw out. we've got to manage their care too. we've just got to sit down and find out if we can work through this and pass it. mike: senator, if you follow my twitter feed and yours probably as well, there are a lot of folks across the country who are very frustrated by the lack of progress on a lot of their

priorities. i realize you don't set the schedule in the u.s. senate, but if you're trying to get things done, you guys typically roll in on a monday afternoon and are typically out by thursday afternoon or so. i recognize you have things to do back in your home state, but should leadership basically say to rank and file members it's time to get in the room six days a week, and we're not coming out until we come up with some deals, some solutions? >> mike, i've often wondered -- i hear people talk about how things used to be and how it used to work and all the collegiality that peopled had. they worked together, they had dinners together on weekends because they were here. i've often said if we were only reimbursted for one weekend a month -- reimbursed for one weekend a month, we would be here. but i don't think that's going to happen. i think that, that dog can has left the barn, horse has left the barn. it's a shame, we should be building more relationships, we

should be working more, longer to get that done, and it should be more of a process. and the process for it to work, mike, you've got to work through the committees. the committees have to do their thing. any, any committee member that has an idea that wants to have a consideration for an amendment should be able to put that amendment forward -- mike: right. >> -- identify it, be able to put the facts behind it and be able to argue for its passage and why it's needed to be done. everyone else should be able the question, and if you have enough votes, you move forward. if you don't, you don't. we're not getting that type of process anymore. it's almost like we're hunkered down in a fight. it's my way, we're going to try it my way. and what's really, mike, hard to hear, well, if this doesn't work, we'll have to to work with the democrats. or if if the dem account accurates say, well, if this doesn't work, we'll have to the work with the republicans. i enjoy working with my colleagues, i think that's what i was sent to do, to work with everybody.

that's way you get good policy. mike: we'll see whether we can get a little cooperation there inside capitol hill. west virginia senator joe manchin, thanks for taking time out. i'll see you back on the hill, sir. >> hey, mike, it's always good to be with you. thank you. melissa: the police chief of minneapolis forced out after a woman is killed by a police officer. justine damond was unarmed, in her pajamas when she was shot outside her home. residents holding a rally last night, voicing their support for the bride-to-be and calling for new leadership in the police department. bryan llenas is live are with the latest -- live with the latest developments. >> reporter: all this began a week ago when a police officer shot and killed justine damond, a 40-year-old unarmed australian woman. she called 911 twice to report a possible rape of a woman or girl behind her home. police say the officers were startled by a loud noise, then damond approached the driver's

side window of a squad car, and noor shot her, an explanation the family is not buying. >> i don't know how you can be ambushed by a lady in her pajamas who called the police and who rescues ducklings from the sewer. i don't know how that can -- i don't know how she would be a person that would ambush you. >> reporter: the shooting led to a protest of a few hundred people downtown friday. a few interrupting -- >> we do not want you as the mayor of minneapolis! >> i will not be resigning. and like i said, it is understandable to me that, you know, people's frustration is high. i share that frustration. >> reporter: now, the city's police chief resigned friday at the request of the mayor. neither noor or his partner that night had their body cameras turned on, sparking criticism. now, the mayor says the chief had lost the confidence of the people, and in a statement she

said, quote: i have to put the communities we serve first. i've decided i am willing to step aside to let a fresh set of leadership eyes see what can be done for the mpd to be the very best it can be. they've interviewed a new witness who was bicycling by and saw the encounter, and there's a report part of that encounter at least is caught on video. melissasome. melissa: bryan, thank you for that. >> reporter: of course. mike: an airplane stuck in new york city's east river. several people were rescued from the disabled sea plane last night. the wing of the plane seen dipping into the water. new york city police and fire department boats responding to the scene. crews later towed the plane away. melissa: china's leaders are not beliebers, banning pop star justin bieber from performing there. oh, no! the government citing his, quote, bad behavior. bieber played in china back in 201, and he was photographed

being carried across the great wall by his bodyguards. for bad behavior. i mean, maybe because he's annoying? because he uses too much hair product? there's a lot of different ways, reasons you might ban him. what do you think? don't tell me you love justin bieber. mike: we've banned him from our house. [laughter] our nine-and-a-half-year-old daughter is not allowed. melissa: there you go. mike: sean spicer out, anthony scaramucci in. we've got karl rove the weigh in on how the new staff at 1600 pennsylvania avenue might work out.

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president did not want you to go. tell us what happened. >> he didn't. he's been very gracious throughout this process. he wanted to bring some new folks in to help rev up the communications operation. and after reflection, my decision was to recommend to the president that i give anthony and sarah a clean slate to start from so that they can talk about the president's agenda and help move it forward. and he, after some back and forth, understood that the offer that i was making was something that was in the best interests of this administration. i thanked him for the opportunity, and i'm looking forward to watching anthony and sarah do a tremendous job. melissa: some political experts say scaramucci is an interesting choice. joining us now is fox news contributor karl rove, former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. sir, thank you so much for joining us. what do you make of this change? did you watch the presser live yesterday? what'd you think? >> well, first of all, i thought

sean spicer was really classy in the way that he made his departure. not a hint of bitterness. whatever his private thoughts are, he's not sharing them, and i thought that was really classy. yeah, that -- look, i know anthony scaramucci. he is an entertaining guy. like his boss, he's a successful new york business guy. he's got a lot of pizazz. unbridled confidence and a willingness to speak his mind. we saw it yesterday in that news conference. and we're in for an interesting ride, and he's in for an interesting challenge. this is unlike any job that he has ever tackled before, and he's got a lot of talent, and it's going to require him to bring every bit of it to bear on the task of being the communications director in the white house. this is the guy in charge of setting the tone, the discipline, the focus and the message for the president of the united states. it's a big job, and he's off to a, he's off to an interesting start yesterday with his press briefing. melissa: yeah. i mean, so the initial reaction before he took to the podium, a lot of us were saying, wow, we

know him from finance, from the hedge fund world, we know him from doing some television with relate to finance but not necessarily someone who could direct communications. but then he went out there, and the way he handled the media and the things they threw at him and even at the beginning when the mic didn't work and he very smoothly made a joke about it, made everyone laugh, it's a completely different, relaxed, in control approach that we haven't seen from this particular white house. how do you think he applies that as director though? >> well, that's scaramucci. you saw him yesterday. look, he has built a very successful business by selling, and he was selling yesterday. he was selling himself and selling the administration. that, frankly, was the easy part, the introduction. now comes the tough part. there are two challenges he faces from my perspective. if you read the press, the clips, there's an undertone that this is somehow evidence of a war inside the white house, that steve bannon, the senior

adviser, and the chief of staff, reince priebus, weren't for this. now, there's lots of stuff that's said about the white house, any white house, that has little basis in reality. but this -- but to prove this wrong, there's got to be some evidence that these three are getting along. scaramucci's in an interesting place. the president has given him -- he's a direct report to the president. normally, the communications director reports, as the rest of the west wing does, through the chief of staff. but apparently, he's directly reporting to the president. so one key is going to be to not overuse that. in fact, be as big a colleague as possible. consult, advise, ask, inquire and move as a team. that's going to be really important. the other and bigger challenge is this: the white house -- poor sean spicer had two jobs. impossible to do. you cannot be the communications director and the press secretary. the communications director is the person who's got to set plan. they've got to be the person who sort of gets everybody in

agreement as to the direction that the white house is going to go from a communications perspective and then doesn't get caught up in being the person on television and doesn't get caught in the day-to-day management of the press shop in the white house, but keeps the white house in all of its power and all of its people moving in the right direction. and that's going to be a big challenge for anybody, that's going to be a big challenge here on this white house given where they are today. melissa: so one of the biggest problems has been when the communications director or anyone on the communications side comes out and says one thing, and then they're seemingly undermined by the president later when he tweets or or to something else. at this point it seems like a lot of people have said anthony scaramucci and president trump are very similar in the way they think, their approach the things, i mean, their scrappy background, that they feel like they're street fighters, they're people who, you know, made fortunes for themselves in terms of their thinking. maybe they think the same way and that allows him, i don't

know, to have better insight into how the president is thinking? or is the president just -- >> well, look, i come from a different angle on this. yeah, anthony scaramucci has a lot of the personal characteristics of donald trump; background, successful business guy, pizazz, scrapper. on the other hand, we've got in evidence how scaramucci handles things. a couple weeks ago there was a very bad story on cnn that alleged he had ties to really bad people in russia. and he tackled it head on. i've seen him do this behind the scenes, i can just imagine how straightforward he was with cnn. melissa: right. >> not abrasive, not aggressive, but straightforward. three people at cnn were fired, and what was anthony's response? melissa: he was gracious. >> it was to be generous. apologized, and the story went away. melissa: that's true. >> think about this week. president trump was starting to have a good day on wednesday, and he -- tuesday it had been

bad news, the health care bill appeared to be dead, the president has a lunch, everybody comes out saying we're re rereenergized, and then the president brings up russia in an interview with "the new york times." my gut tells me that anthony would have said let's stay focused on the message of the day, mr. president, which is advancing your agenda. and my hope is that we'll see more of that in the weeks ahead. the personal relationship may help him cement that by saying to the president don't tweet about russia, don't bring up sessions, stay focus toed on the big things. melissa: carl, that is brilliant analysis. that is the difference between the way the two have handled things. thanks for coming on today, appreciate it. >> you bet. thanks for having me. mike: it is a race against the clock in central california as flames covering more than 70,000 acres threatennen one of america's national parks. details still ahead.

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mike: a wildfire tearing through central california is sending people fleeing from their homes. firefighters warning those people about dark clouds of smoke. the fire near yosemite national park sending smoke all the way

to idaho. meteorologist adam klotz is live here, any sign of relief on the horizon. >> >> reporter: well, mike, we still have the red flag warnings which means fire's still imminent. you're seeing areas where the warnings are in place. humidity's low, the winds are high, that's going to be continue through the weekend. folks on the other half of the country, completely opposite problem. humidity very high, and we're getting really warm temperatures piling up in the plains states. these are your current temperatures, but you add in that humidity, and you get your feels-like temperature or heat index, and we're up to 105, 108, 107. it's getting incredibly warm and these numbers still in a couple of hours only going to get higher. these are forecasted highs, and you're running up closer to 110 in memphis, the same down into the dallas area. just incredibly warm, and as a result, heat advisories are in place, excessive heat warnings, watches stretching from portions

of the plains states over into the midwest and actually up the east coast as well where we're seeing temperatures up into the triple digits. it is incredibly hot in the center of country. it is spurring on a couple of thunderstorms, this is a system we're going to be watching. folks along the east coast, this is something you're going to be seeing in the next couple of hours. we are getting absolutely everything across the country here, mike, on this saturday. mike: bring it. we could use the rain. >> reporter: yes, we could. mike mike we'll be right back.

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melissa: so what did you think, should we do it again? mike: m and m show part two? melissa: i love it. we'll bring m and ms next time. we will see you right back here at four eastern for more -- mike: and don't miss hannity's big special. >> i'd like to read a statement> from the president on the resignation of press secretary sean spicer. >> change comes to the white house. >> press secretary sean spicer resigns. >> sean is a true american patriot. he's got a great family, and he's done an amazing job. >> and anthony scaramucci is named communications director. >> you want me to be as candid as you would like me to be with you guys? there feels like there's some media bias. >> there's been some speculation in the press about me and reince. we rough each other up once in a while, but he's a dear friend. >> sean spicer and chief of staff reince priebus will join us tonight in