you will love them by the end of the week. thank you for being with us. thank you. this show will be fair and balanced. tucker carlson is coming up right now. have a good night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." jared kushner testified before the senate intelligence committee today and then spoke with many reporters read afterward. watch. >> let me be very clear. i did not collude with russia. nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so. i had no improper contacts. donald trump had a better message, and ran a smarter campaign, and that is why he wo won. >> tucker: ever heard his voice before? most people hadn't. we will hear more from him in a minute, but first there is otherness. democrats have they finally get it.

they know why they lost to the last election, and it was not actually because of russian saboteurs. chuck schumer put his day in "the new york times" op-ed, they lost because they failed to articulate an economic message that the middle class cared about. to underscore that point, he and nancy pelosi have their noses and ventured out into rural clark county virginia today, place they'd probably never been, but a place that voted for trump by almost 20 points in november. while there, they build a plan they call a better deal. it's the soft economic populism trump ran on in the fall, pretty successfully. lowering prescription drug prices, more attention to blue-collar jobs, and infrastructure plan for rural america. interestingly, there is the single word about global warming, transgender bathrooms, bombing moscow. it doesn't look very crazy, and it might work if democrats meant it. but do they? we can check that. we have the tape. here's what leading democrats have a talk about in public over

the past 24 hours. >> the president is clearly worried that bob mueller is going to be looking into allegations that the russians may have laundered money to the trump organization. >> there's a cloud of illegitimacy that is hanging over the white house as a result of the possibility that it was improper or illegal collusion between the trump campaign event russia. >> this drip, drip, drip of information. these revelations. they are doing exactly what i've already predicted. that is going to lead right to impeachment. >> tucker: we are going to have a lot more on maxine waters later in the show. but wait a second, where is the part about raising middle-class wages or rebuilding rural america? if that is such a priority for democrats, why haven't they mentioned any of it in the last year? today is supposed to be the launch of a new economic message, but flip on any of the other news channels, most of which are reliable barometers of what's important to democrats. he hear anybody talking about the heroin crisis in new hampshire, or the lack of

good paying work in downstate illinois? no, you don't. that's because they are talking instead about what they are always talk about, his immoral, vladimir putin still the election, that's the message and for the foreseeable future will remain the master. congressman helped launch the better deal message, he represents and joins us. thanks for coming up >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: i think this is the obvious message that democrats should have run on in november. the middle class is dying, 70 needs to represent them. democrats took a pass and ran on identity politics and frivolous issues, and trump filled the void. you can convince me that your voters care about the stuff, because if they did they would demand you talk about it last election. >> this agenda which we announced today, which is an agenda both from the house and the senate, came about as a result of doing a lot of listening. listening to our members who are home every weekend listening to their constituents, and understanding that it is important that voters hear what democrats are committed to do to

raise wages, create good paying jobs so that people have a bright future. this better deal is really about how we increase incomes, how do we reduce the cost of people's expenses in health care, and child care, and the things that people spend money on. this is a very bold agenda that will do that. i think you're going to hear democrats continue to talk about it, it's our number one priority to do all that we can to improve the lives of working people. we are in the minority, so whether we can move the stuff or not, but it's important for the american people, if you elect democrats, if you give us the responsibility, we will focus on raising incomes, rebuilding the middle class, reducing the cost in people's lives. >> tucker: i get it. not only is that not crazy, that's the message. >> this is about our agenda. >> tucker: i agree with it. trump just ran on and one. >> but the president isn't doing it. >> tucker: i guess if i was

rooting for democrats i would hope that you would. i don't think you will for a couple reasons, but the abbey's question is why didn't you run on that in the last election and why haven't you been talking about it even today? i haven't had a single democrat other than you and chuck schumer and nancy poole nancy pelosi. >> the point of putting together this democratic agenda was so that we can more effectively make our case. what we stand for, what we are fighting for. you are going to hear a lot more about this as we roll out different parts of this agenda. but i think democrats have been talking about what we can do to raise folks as income, to rebuild the middle class in our country, to do with escalating cost of prescriptions. by the way, we didn't do it effectively because we lost the election. >> tucker: i was wondered why -- how can you argue that economic case, and argue for unrestricted

immigration? >> that is not my position, number one. number to call, where talk about us raising people's incomes, reducing the cost of expensive , and -- >> tucker: this is a simple question. >> this is -- we have comprehensive immigration reform -- >> tucker: why would want millie's people here competing with low-wage american speed >> the people that are here, the question is -- immigrants add tremendously -- >> tucker: the 10 million illegal immigrants -- >> the 10 million people here need a pathway to citizenship. >> tucker: asked a simple question, the rights of illegals more important -- >> we want an economy that works for everyone, and gives them --

by the way, we want immigration reform. there's a bipartisan bill supported by republicans and democrats. >> tucker: republicans don't care about middle-class wages. >> that's not true. >> tucker: can we get to reality and away from the talking points what you concede that decades of social science have shown that if you flood a market with a legal workers drives down the wages. >> they came here to build a better life for their families. they are not a drain on society. they contribute enormously. immigration reform has to happen it should be done in a bipartisan way. it should be comprehensive. there's a piece of legislation that will do it. that's how we should approach it. >> tucker: we aren't thinking wages that you aren't taking wages seriously. congressman, here's a question. minority leader chuck schumer says that it's time for hillary clinton to stop blaming

sinister russian forces. here's what he said in an interview. when you lose to somebody who has 40% popularity you don't blame other things. comey, russia, you blame yourself. what do we do wrong? people to know we stood for, just that we were against trump and they still believed that. >> i think it is essential that democrats make it very clear what we stand for, what we are willing to fight for, and what we will achieve, what we will accomplish on behalf of working families. that's what this agenda does. working families in america. we need to invest in -- -- >> tucker: is that more important to look at american citizens or people who are not citizens? >> we should have policies that support american citizens. we don't have to pick, it's an integrated economy. we've to fix our broken immigration system by having comprehensive reform.

with both republican and democrat support, but we can get a vote on it. >> tucker: you need to think this through a tiny bit. >> you need to think of the values of this country that they bring. >> tucker: thank you. for more reaction where joined by someone who has wrote a lot about it, author and columnist charles carl hammer. charles, did they mean it? >> i think they do. democrats for 100 years were portraying themselves, saw themselves, starting with fdr, as the party of the working class. i think the problem for democrats as they've been living off their glory years for the last 20 or 30. in the mid 20th century, they did great things for the country. they invented social security. they decided to put -- the elderly should not be destitute. they were the ones they gave us medicare, medicaid. the problem is that as daniel patrick moynihan wrote in the

late 1970s, that democrats were the party of ideas for three generations, ran out of ideas, and then it was the republicans that came up with the ideas in the reagan days. it seems to me the democrats are still living off that legacy. i have no objections to anything in the program that you have heard outlined. i'm rather amused that it's a better deal, meaning we had in the new deal, we had the fair deal, so the deal seems to work force, so let's try it again. but this is stuff at the margins. minimum wage, for example. these are old policies that are now being put together in some kind of ideological framework, but it doesn't really work. we just had to study from seattle about the effect of raising the minimum wage. >> tucker: it's a math question, it doesn't work. it seems like a good idea, but is it possible if your party is based on identity politics? it's about hating the middle class. >> it seems to me they went to

identity politics because they ran out of larger national idea ideas. for three generations, they worked on the idea of a safety net, of a social network around people supported by the government. they brought us into the modern world because before fdr, we had a government that could have been -- it wasn't that different from a government of the founders. the problem is, where did they go? they have their heart perhaps in the working class. but what are their ideas? it seems to me the only people with real ideas is the left, bernie sanders. that's an argument that's got comprehensiveness to it. want to go the way of western europe. that may not be the greatest society, but that is their idea. you start with national health care. that's not the program that was outlined. but national health care, the government runs everything, that is the staple, that is the tent

pole for that. the ideas that the government will take care of you. high taxation, high regulation, and that's what western europe is the model of. it's not a terrible place to live. it's not a hellhole. but it's not america. it's rather different. we have much higher attachment to the idea of liberty than we do will be quality. there is no statue of a quality in new york harbor. statue of liberty. we are different that way. that's why he's failing, it's not going to work in this country. historically speaking this is a modest attempt to get back to the ideal or the objectives of liberalism, but it's such a paltry step that unless you go to the far left, i don't see how it works. >> tucker: a party comprised of the rich and the poor cannot become a middle-class party. i wish them well. >> that's why, as you say, they turned to identity politics.

it was a substitute for thinking in national terms. >> tucker: charles krauthammer, thank you. jared kushner's book behind closed doors to a senate committee today and had some words for the press. we will show you what he said coming up. plus maxine waters has her critics, including the show, are a bunch of racists. that's a response to the question we asked which is how did she buy a $4.2 million house on public service salary? we will unpack that a little bit. bit. coming

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>> they run out they say, death, death, while obamacare is death. that's the one that's death. >> tucker: spin on those trump . you saw some interns in the back room, pressuring senate to complete a compromise bill that would repeal obamacare. jared kushner spoke to reporters following two hours of testimony before the senate intelligence committee. >> my name is jared kushner. i am senior advisor to president donald j. trump. when my father-in-law decided to run for president, i served his campaign the best i could because i believe in him and his ability to improve the lives of all americans. and now serving the president and the people of the united states has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. i am so grateful for the opportunity to work on important matters such as middle east peace and reinvigorating america's innovative spirit.

every day i come to work with enthusiasm and excitement for what can be. i have not sought the spotlight. first in business, and now in public service, i have always focused on setting and achieving goals and have left it to others to work on media and public perception. since the first questions were raised in march, i've been consistent in saying that i was eager to share any information i have with the investigating bodies, and i have done so today. the record and documents i have voluntarily provided will show that all of my actions were proper, and occurred in the normal course of events of a very unique campaign. let me be very clear. i did not collude with russia, nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so. i had no improper contacts.

i did not rely on russian funds for my businesses. and i have been fully transparent in providing all requested information. donald trump had a better message and ran a smarter campaign, and that is why he wo won. suggesting otherwise ridicules those who voted for him. it is an honor to work with president trump and his administration as we take on the challenges that he was elected to face. creating jobs for american people. keeping america safe, and illuminating barriers to achieving the american dream. thank you very much, and i look forward to taking questions from the house committee tomorrow. thank you. >> tucker: dave bossi is the president of citizens united print he worked on the trump campaign. some say he is an informal advisor to the president. still he won't can affirm or

deny, but he joins us. how do you think that one? >> went very well today. i think he did a very good job. as a former chief investigator for one of the main congressional committees in the 90s when the clintons were under investigation, i wish we had people like jared kushner come forward. if you recall, they all disassembled, they'll try to hide behind the fifth amendment. hide behind document production, their lawyers. jared kushner volunteered, he came forward in a completely transparent way and told the committee today, the interests of the questions, obviously don't know what was asked, but he answer the questions and tomorrow he will do the same in the house. he divulged all the documents, and for what i've seen there are exculpatory emails and they're saying get me out of this crazy meeting. while that now infamous june meeting was happening and trump tower. there's going to be evidence

that comes out of today and tomorrow that i hope it helps put this crazy investigation to rest. >> tucker: because he just made sweeping, blanket statements about his own innocence, and if those proved to be untrue he has a massive legal exposure. it's hard to believe he would say this, it would be reckless. >> he has tremendous lawyers. that team, they are outstanding. they are the clinton team, and i went up against the many times they are outstanding but he is getting good advice. he would never, i would say, i would never let a client do that unless we knew the facts. >> tucker: of course not. here's my one sentence overview of what i think the political landscape is this year. permanent class in washington, republicans and delegates, dislike the president and his agenda. the only group that supports them are the people that voted for him and a very few elected officials who came out form. first among those is jeff sessions, and the president is

attacking jeff sessions again. why is he doing that? >> he's a frustrated president right now. when it comes to the investigation. he looks at why this wide-ranging, open investigation is ongoing, and he looks at the reason of jeff stepping away from the duties as attorney general to allow someone else to make the decisions. >> tucker: i get it, i understand, but it happened. at this stage what does anyone profit from the president being at war with his attorney general? >> i would say it's a war. i would say he showing his displeasure in that decision. he can show up more than one time. he is the president of the night states >> tucker: can he fire mueller? >> of course, he can fire him. i don't believe for a moment he would do that. >> tucker: to think is trying to push sessions out? >> i think that the president

has confidence in jeff sessions, he said so last week. i don't see any other reason to believe otherwise. >> tucker: if sessions left, to think it would be possible to get a new attorney general through the senate? >> sure. absolutely. how quickly can do that, i don't know. but you have the august recess coming. whether it happened, whenever it happened, of course if the president takes a tremendously qualified person he will get them through the senate. >> tucker: one is the russia stuff going to end? >> as soon as the mainstream media -- look, the president has some victories, legislative victories under that belt, he puts those did bed a little bit. the turmoil in the white house, the change to anthony scaramucci yesterday. you get things like jared kushner's testimony, which i think it's incredibly good for the president. you start to get by. the people are tired of it. this investigation has been going on for almost one year. it started last august.

people have to remember, multiple congressional investigations. the department of justice investigating millions of dollars being spent, and not one shred of evidence that there's been anything wrong that the president or anyone on her campaign has done anything wrong. >> tucker: even chuck schumer admitted today in "the new york times," they lost because they rent a van campaign. it extended on that. thank you for joining us. sarah huckabee sanders is something called a "butch queen." we'll take what that means. we will see why the left doesn't seem to follow its own rhetoric on bullying. no enemies on the liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad.

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>> tucker: is it okay to use gender-based insults as long as you are a liberal in good standing? dumb question, of course the answers you you can do whatever you want, and another good example today. a monday morning daily beast writer tweeted out a picture of sarah huckabee sanders, the press secretary of the white house, along with the caption "butch queen first time in drag at ball. "he's basically suggesting that she is a bad male cross-dresser. madison, ira madison the third, is the same writer who would kill jeff sessions for having an adopted asian granddaughter. he waited that tweet but has not apologized. no one is asked them to, because

he's a liberal. we have radio show host joining us tonight, thank you for coming on both of you. tammy, we can go on for hours, but does anybody on the left ever get in trouble for using language that people on the right would lose their jobs over? >> they don't. this is a problem. if we are going to, as minorities, going to insist that we had somehow morally superior, may be be helpful if there was actually some decent behavior involved. as a woman, i want everyone to have equal opportunity. i want everyone to be treated decently. that should be the foundation of any civil rights movement, equal opportunity, equal treatment, being able to live our lives as we see fit. it's a good argument to make. it's a legitimate one. but it's difficult to be able to hold that foundation if you are on the left when in fact you then continued to be the bully. you're the one that says you stand up for women, you're going to march in your going to make

those ink caps, and you stand up for every woman. but when it comes to women in the trump administration, not only are going to call them names, you're going to objectify them based on their appearance. it's not just sarah huckabee sanders, it's kellyanne conway who is portrayed as a fatal attraction type of woman. on "saturday night live" ." it's all really the women who have supported the president, and part of it i have to argue, and i will leave with this, i think there's also some religious bigotry involved here as well. but that's one of the differences with these women compared perhaps to liberal women, some of whom are people of faith, but we can't ignore that. >> tucker: i think that's right. i talked for a living, so i'm interested in what the rules are. i thought the rules are you weren't allowed to take people on the basis of their characteristics, their, their race, you can't make fun of that stuff. i see joe biden referred to barack obama as clean and

articulate, and he -- i see this ira madison character mock her sexuality, and her sex, why is that allowed? >> where using a single example here. by the way, so one was from a while ago, but we have an example, , and insulted her in chief right now who all the way to the campaign was busy insulting people setting the tone for the contribute he is now the president. the president does set the tone for the country, that includes insulting people on a regular basis. i do not approve of what ira said. >> tucker: was the ark meant that you are making, the because trump doesn't it's okay? i thought the whole point is that is not supposed to do that, we are horrified, we're taking a moral stand against him but now we are doing it ourselves? >> i was just saying, i don't agree with what ira said. it's wrong to do that kind of low level, guttural criticism. by the way, if you look at his

other writing on daily beast, this is kind of what he does is hurl insults. he's not the most positive writer. this isn't the best example, and surely does not represent people left of center in terms of the way we speak about our political opponents. i don't agree with political violence either. >> tucker: i don't go on social media too much, because i've got a job, but every time i'm there and i'm sure you notice, both of you, that the left is totally -- this is normal. >> let me just remind everybody. the comparison of women who are conservative to men or men or transsexuals, and coulter is faced that as well. it's a strange kinds of homophobic, trans phobic attack on women who are conservative to accuse them somehow of being me men. this is what i find strange but my first book, 15 years ago, was about the new thought police.

how racism, sexism, and homophobia live on the left. all of this is actually projection. at this point -- and look, it's not going to end, but the americans who are watching this program have got to realize that those who stand up and say we are your moral betters and we are the ones you can count on are actually the ones who are making the problems worse. they're the ones who are engaging in it. >> tucker: i would be happy to live in a world where nobody got fired for saying something stupid. that's not the world we live in. liberals are pushing people to get canned for saying something stupid. can you agree that maybe we shall just lighten up and i'll give ira madison a pass and, you know what i mean, stop crushing people who say something dumb? >> tucker, you and i agree. this is wonderful. we actually came together tonight. i agree with you. there's so much overreaction that's going on, boycotts, people getting fired, i don't agree with that. i am a believer in speech, and i believe that some people need to grow a little thicker skin. we need to be teaching in

college, insensitivity to everything so every things not so deeply offensive. >> tucker: the going to come after you if you keep talking like that. good luck. thank you both. president trump says he's cutting off american support for serious moderate rebels after most of them turned out to be fairly on moderate, like al qaeda. we talk about whether or not the president has done the right thing. do you trust your pediatrician do you trust your pediatrician -- we talk to a doctor who says when this bell rings... ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected.

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>> tucker: the trumpet mysteriousness decided to end a cia program that arms anti-assad rebels. a lot of the moderate rebels lined up with al qaeda, and the weapons we gave them fell into the hands of isis, and it's not

clear we should be involved in syria at all. this is a coherent decision. this is not how "the washington post" or other media says it is. in other words, trump is doing this because putin wants them to. they could be no other reason. congressman woman represents why, and she joins us. so even, we were talking -- even congresswoman, even if your for regime change, you are anti-assad, nothing is much defense of this program. >> there is not. this is a problem, the syrian people have been crying out for peace for so long, and the media completely is missing the point here about what is being reported, that trump is ending the cia program as he described. for the benefit of your viewers, let's talk about what the cia program actually was. it's been widely reported that for years now the cia was providing arms, intelligence,

money, and other support to these armed militants who were working hand-in-hand and are working hand-in-hand, and oftentimes under the command of al qaeda in syria. this is in a matter of we are giving weapons to people that they end up falling in the wrong hands, we are directly arming militants who are working under the command of al qaeda, on this effort to overthrow the syrian government. >> tucker: that is grotesque. honestly and sincerely, i'm confused why anyone would defend this. >> it's this addiction to regime change, and this idea that somehow this is what must be done. without actually looking at the fact that we have been providing direct and indirect support to al qaeda, the very same terrorist group that attacked us on 9/11, and that we are supposed to be continuing to be fighting against and trying to defeat. the thing that should make everyone feel sick is that

people would rather support, directly and indirectly, al qaeda then actually give up their regime change goals. >> tucker: you are a progressive democrat, one of the most liberal states in the world, agreeing with donald trump on this specific piece of policy. what kind of reaction do you get from your fellow democrats? >> for years, even through the obama administration, i've been advocating to bring about an end to this program. i'm continuing, through the introduction of my bill, to stop arming terrorists act, to make sure our government does not use taxpayer dollars to provide this kind of support. whether it's weapons intelligence, money, or anything else, directly or indirectly to these terrorist groups like al qaeda. the reason why this is so important is because while reports are saying that the trump administration is and at this cia program, it could very easily be changed and reinstated in a month or six months, or it could rear its ugly head again in another country.

but also because our so-called allies in saudi arabia, turkey, qatar, they are continuing to provide direct and indirect support. my bill would bring about an end to this. >> tucker: i am positive you've been denounced as a russian agent. i think anybody who raises questions has been. russia seems to have corrupted whatever you think of -- corrupted conversation about foreign policy. >> it's unfortunate. the people who are suffering are people in countries like syria, people in countries like yemen, who are suffering as a result of our policies. and they've been directly counterproductive to our own national security. how we could allow the use of american taxpayer dollars to strengthen al qaeda is beyond me, and that's when i'm fighting to stop. >> tucker: if you are against it, just for the record, have you ever sworn an oath to

vladimir putin. >> for the record i have not. >> tucker: i feel like in washington, 2017, we need to be absolutely sure. great to see you, congressman. left-wing ideology is taking over her field and putting thousands of kids at risk, this dr. will join us what it's like to be a pediatrician in 2017. stay

>> tucker: ten illegal immigrants died terrible deaths this week and in san antonio, texas. they suffocated inside a tractor-trailer that was parked outside a walmart. federal officials say that the tractor-trailer was being used to transport illegals across the u.s. after they had previously

crossed illegally the border on foot. 39 people were found inside. authorities say the trailer may have carried as many as 200 human beings at one point. in sweltering conditions, without any water at all. in addition to the ten fatalities, several survivors reportedly suffered permanent brain damage after being stuck in the heat for hours. truck driver james matthew bradley, jr., has been charged with transporting illegal aliens but he could face maybe even the death penalty. the trafficking resulted in fatalities. for his part he says he had no idea where the dozens of illegal aliens came from. he didn't know they were in his truck. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick says the deaths are the fault of sanctuary city policies, which enable human smugglers to ply their trade while encouraging more foreigners to enter this country illegally. that sounds reasonable, it's probably too reasonable for many in the left who are blaming all of this on donald trump since america -- if it didn't enforce its immigration laws, nobody would die trying to defy them.

michelle critelli is the president of the american college of pediatricians. transgender ideology has infiltrated my field and produced large scale child abuse. they are encouraging their kids to change genders when there is no evidence of these changes are safe or hopeful. dr. joins us now. thank you so much for weighing in on this. one of the reasons i want to talk to you is this is a field, i'm not sure what it is, social science, medicine that is changing so fast that it is hard to know where we are exactly, and you are in the practice of providing medicine to kids. i want to get your perspective on it. what are you seeing? >> thank you very much, tucker. i'm glad to be here. i think it's important to say that everyone on both sides of this issue is concerned about finding loving and helpful solutions, first of all. honestly. with the american college of pediatricians and also i have

many colleagues on the left, also insist that solutions be rooted in reality, and transgender ideology is not. is hardwired from before birth, cannot change. that's why we had actually called this child abuse, because by feeding children and families these lies, children are having their normal psychological the filaments interrupted, they are being put on the puberty lockers which essentially cast rates them chemically followed by surgical mutilation later on. this is child abuse. it is not health care. >> tucker: so as you know, you will be if you have not already be accused of child abuse yourself. not caring for these kids, imposing medieval theology on modern children. how do you respond? >> right, but as he said at the beginning this is about science.

what is going on now with the puberty lockers, followed by cross sex hormones, has actually no track record whatsoever. the loving solution for children who are ages three to ten, they engage in magical thinking. they don't know the difference so easily between fantasy and reality. we need to nurture them through adolescence, through natural puberty, our job as parents and physicians is to help children embrace their healthy bodies. when this is done, once they get past puberty into late adolescence, as many as 95% will come to embrace their bodies. and identify with their biological sex. >> tucker: since this is not just something we are debating as college students, but there are physicians involved for prescribing drugs, what we know about the effects of heavy-duty

hormones, synthetic hormones given to little kids long-term? >> right. we don't have long-term studies, which is a major problem. which is why physicians should not be telling parents that this is settled science and it is safe. we do know that when puberty blocks are used appropriately in other settings, that we have observed in adults, for example, they can be used to treat prostate cancer, some issues and women, and there's evidence that you can impact memory and cognitive ability in negative ways. as far as the cross sex hormones, for a young child on puberty lockers who goes directly to cross sex or sex change -- you are sterilizing them. little children cannot possibly understand the risk of having a medication and then never being able to have children in the

future. >> tucker: i didn't know that, and there's a lot i don't know about this. this is all happening so fast i don't think most people know what's going on. what is the youngest age at which kids are getting these kind of drugs? >> the guidelines suggest that puberty lockers be given at ages 11-12, but i have reports from colleagues across the country, and you can find them in various news reports that children as young as nine have been put on these puberty blockers. what it does, it arrests normal development. puberty is not a disease. you are stopping them, it's not a matter of sex characteristics. it's brain development. >> tucker: there's a lot there. doctor, thank you for that. i appreciate it. congresswoman maxine waters says this program is racist. we will tell you why she says that in the questions we asked that got her to say it. we will be right

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>> tucker: a couple weeks ago we tested the obvious question. how did maxine waters, democratic congresswoman, get so rich? she is held elected office for pretty much continuously 40 years. she represent one of the poorest districts in california. yet somehow she lives in a $4.3 million mansion among them one of the rich is and widest neighborhoods in l.a., which isn't even in her own district. we aren't alleging wrongdoing, but really, how did that happen? "the new york times" talk to waters recently, and here's how she responded to the show and our question. "i own several properties, the way he talked about it is what right does an african emerging woman have to do well? he doesn't know anything about my investments, but the house that i've lived in for 25, 30 years. to say how she could afford that is racist, and i dismiss it." so we are bigots for asking the question. are you surprised? it doesn't look like she's lived in that house for 25 or 30 years. real estate records suggest he bought it 13 years ago, and has spent an awful lot since to

remodel it. so again, where the money come from? maybe she borrowed it from relatives. since 2006, she has paid her own daughter is $600,000 from campaign funds. and heard her husband, who was once a director of one united bank. never heard of it? in 2008, one united bank gutted $12 million bailout after waters convinced the treasury department to take up the case. she did not disclose that she had stuck holding his or her husband worked there, maybe those of the investments she mentioned. or maybe the $1 million that her families made doing business with people she has helped in congress. that was almost 20 years ago. some people think all this is a little unseemly, if not criminal. one liberal group ranked waters as the most corrupt members of commerce. we are withholding judgment on that despite the congresswoman's name calling, but we would like a real answer. we've asked her to appear on the show many times to explain, we will keep asking.

good night from washington. to be 21 his life now. we will see you tomorrow "the five"'s life right now. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> hello, i'm dana perino along with kimberly guilfoyle, jesse watters, and juan williams. it's 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." big day on capitol hill, and the white house, as president trumps son-in-law jared kushner speaks out after an interview behind closed doors with the senate intelligence committee staffers. mr. kushner denies any collusion with the russians and alleged campaign idling. >> let me be very clear. i did not collude with russia, nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so. i had no improper