the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and especially groupthink. don't forget the dvr it if you haven't. "the five" is next. have a great night. >> jesse: hello, everybody. i am jesse watters. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." there is a new multipronged effort to crack down on leaks in washington. coming up on "hannity" and an hour, the man trying to crack down. anthony scaramucci. >> some people are thinking we are naive. i know i am in a cesspool called washington or a swamp called

washington. it will be virtually impossible to get rid of every leak but i think we can take dramatic steps to get rid of leaks. one of the big problems i'm discovering is that senior people, the guys doing the leaking -- they ask junior people to leak for them. i am proud to be reporting directly to the president, so i can seal off the comm team from this sort of nonsense. >> jesse: jeff sessions is also one week patrol. the ag is expected to announce several criminal investigations of leaks very soon. in recent days, he has publicly put pressure on sessions to get tougher on leaks and other matters. newt gingrich cautions the president with firing the attorney general but does think there need to be made to reforms in the doj. >> the president has every right to be very, very upset.

from his perspective, and it happens to be my's perspective also, the justice department has elements that are out of control and that are corrupt and left-wing. >> jesse: let's start with the leaks first, dana. it's fascinating to me, actual communication guys were telling the junior communication staffers to leak on their behalf. that's nuts. >> dana: that's not what i heard. what he was saying is that he reports directly to the president. all should report directly to the president. he coordinates to the chief of staff. i don't think that's new unless the current chief of staff was trying to change that when scaramucci was coming in. that's possible. i heard say is now he's glad to protect the communication staff, especially the junior staffers from people who were trying to leak on their behalf. that's what he was saying. that was coming from outside the communications jobs. he's trying to get some

solidarity with his communication team. but that sounds pretty juicy. i cannot imagine that actually happening. in my experience, if josh bolton tried to tell my assistant press secretary without my knowing to leak something in particular about what had just happened in the oval office, it is inconceivable. >> jesse: you would take the fall if it hit the fan. that's a bullying tactic, i think. >> dana: if he's doing an investigation and he is finding out that these junior staffers are telling them look, i didn't want to leak that but they told me my job was on the line if i did -- that's just astounding. >> jesse: jeff sessions also now looking at some of these leaks and he had a list put together by our brain room here at fox news, all these national security leaks. i put that." my liberal aunt when i told her

fox news had a brain room, they tonight she said that must be a pretty small room, jesse and [laughter] >> jesse: the phone calls, oval office conversations, the name of the manchester bombing suspect. the list goes on and on. i do think substance will be able to achieve any results? >> juan: no, i don't. i've been a white house reporter. this is not how leaks work. it's not that someone's pushing pressure on the junior guy to go leak, people leak because they have a garage, and agenda. if they want to get attention. and in this case, there are so factions within the trump white house that everyone is trying to look out for themselves. in the dynamic that dana described where most people would come and coordinate through the chief of staff to get to the president, which you

hear from scaramucci -- which struck me in his statement, he is going directly to the president. he's bypassing reince priebus. not good news, mr. reince priebus. >> dana: i think there's a distinction between what jeff sessions is looking into and what anthony scaramucci is talking about. the criminal leaks, when you're talking about these national security issues, you might be able to track those down and do something with those. the leaks are about intrigue within the white house and gossip. those kind of leaks? that's not something that jeff sessions should even bother looking into. >> lisa: the national security leaks are the most concerning here. not only do they undermine the administration but our national security as well. we saw this play out as the u.k. temporarily paused intelligence sharing over the manchester bombing incident and the release of that information. we are facing terror threats as

high as 9/11. we are facing such great threats, why would we want to undermine intelligence sharing with our allies that potentially keep america safe? the attorney general absolutely should be going after this and trying to find leakers and punish them as well. >> juan: maybe we should visit donald trump, who is visiting some of our sources. over and israel. >> jesse: is that what happened, juan? that wasn't on our list. [laughter] >> jesse: you are a democrat president fighting one war against the republicans. a republican president has to fight the democrats and also has to fight the media. president trump has of war with the democrats, other, and people within his own party. >> tom: i'd like to describe him as a front stabber.

you know when he's angry with you. you know when he is upset. he never hides behind anything. i think people appreciate trump because they are all front stabbers. they don't mind if you stab them but they want to see who is stopping them. at the back staffers, those are the leakers. >> lisa: at least you see it coming. >> tom: you said there are many factions in the white house. >> dana: i think there's a distinction between the ones that are trying to undermine the president and his policies and to describe something and like national security. and then there are others that just make the white house go chaotic. that's actually coming from inside the white house. >> tom: what is their interest, the chaotic ones? >> dana: contrary to my experience, let's say reporters

tell everybody in the white house, there is something in political playbook that said if scaramucci believes these leaks are coming from the communications department, he's got another thing coming to him. >> lisa: the intrigue story is that even leaks on the personnel level also heard the trump administration because it creates this atmosphere. one, it's chaos and destruction internally within the white house and it also changes voters perspective as well about what the white house looks like. maybe it's not operational. >> dana: i think voters are blowing that off. >> lisa: even with republicans on capitol hill. it can also happen. republicans feeling that this white house -- >> juan: two points in. tom, you have someone who wants more influence with the president. you have a division between -- this is all hypothetical, i'm not saying this is real. between steve bannon or jared kushner, and the impact on policy being decided by the

president, you can imagine that if they lose out or they are not getting heard, they are going to the press. >> jesse: i am a front stabber and a back stabber. an amendment to repeal obamacare without a replacement failed. several republicans joined all democrats in a 45-55 vote, defeating the plan. i want to read the names of the republican senators who voted against repealing obamacare. susan collins, shelley, john mccain, rob portman, lamar alexander, dean keller of nevada. i want to make sure the what te audience knows. >> dana: a skinny repeal. like oh, that sounds --

[laughter] >> dana: ten governors have just come out with a letter that says of appeal is not for us but i believe they will get something out of the senate that will allow them to get the conference. i think about these seven senators that you just read author names about their decision and peggy noonan said something very interesting about how when you are on the ground and in your own state, you are looking at the topography of the politics and in the last eight years, with president obama, lots of things changed. people have more anxieties and they don't expect change in washington to be good for them and so, i think what we end up with now is that there's really not a strong republican party of smaller government. its variations of bigger government and how it should actually work. that's disconcerting to a lot of conservatives who think we should just take this opportunity to repeal it and

move on. that's obviously not going to happen but they are reacting to their constituents. >> jesse: they are. some of the states, these are states that are very independent minded, like maine. or west virginia. these dates really hang in the balance around election time. these aren't hard-core republican states. >> lisa: i agree but there's an element of cowardice and hypocrisy here as well. >> jesse: you don't say! and the republican party? you don't say. >> lisa: the bill would not go anywhere, they knew it was going to reach the president's desk and now when we actually do have the white house and both bodies of congress, we can enact on a party line basis for the reconciliation process to make changes to obamacare and attempt to repeal it. and now they suddenly don't have the courage because it's real. in these changes are actually going to be plummeted. their constituencies, i would be pretty darn angry considering

the fact that they lied to you for seven years. >> juan: clear the children from the room. close their ears. >> lisa: i said darn? >> juan: hypocrisy by republicans. >> jesse: they learn from you, juan. >> juan: on the skinny repeal that dana was talking about, they lost three boats and over -- the key point is, they have not come up with something better than obamacare, something that ensures more people and lessons premiums and they are coming down to the skinny repeal. do away with the individual mandate and corporate mandate for companies with more than 50 employees. and the tax on medical devices. what happens? according to the cbo, you lose 15 million people -- they lose their insurance and premiums are up 20%. is that better for america? >> tom: you lose the 15 million, most of these people lose it because they drop it.

they don't want it. when you lose that mandate, that's when you lose the millions of people. i want the skinny. i'm going to call it the lite style lib. >> dana: steve bain is going to force a vote and democrats will have to decide about single-payer health care and they will be on the record supporting -- >> jesse: brilliant idea. >> dana: : he thinks he's trying to help democrats, he's actually helping republicans. >> juan: the most interesting thing today, yes president trump tweeting that lisa murkowski, the senator from alaska let down the country and called shameful. lisa murkowski fired back saying every day is not about elections. how about governing the country? wow. >> dana: it she's a front stabber. >> jesse: the arrest of a

former nancy aid of debbie wasserman schultz. up next. ♪ this is how we do

♪ >> dana: a story we mentioned last night, it was my "one more thing," actually. an arrest of former dnc aid of debbie at wasserman schultz. james rosen joins us now with the latest. >> a lawyer for imran awan, he was arrested this week is disputing false. alleging that the fbi seized smashed hard drives from one of his hard drives. computers. a green light to travel abroad from the u.s. eternities attor, week before they swooped down on awan. she was pleading not guilty to one count of bank fraud charges

stemming from home loan applications seemingly unrelated to the $4 million in i.t. work that he and several members of his family performed for leading house democrats. the attacks on mr. awan and his family -- a statement issued by awan's attorney saying now we have the justice department showing up with a complaint about the disclosures on a modest real estate matter. we are confident that mr. awan will soon be able to clear his name and get on with his life. a hearing is set in federal district court here in washington. >> dana: this story has got a lot of threads. all the threads seem a little vulnerable to falling apart. jesse, you have a house staffer, of the former dnc chair. he has wiring money to pakistan. attempting to flee there. why is this not a bigger new

story? >> jesse: because he is a democrat who works for a democrat. big surprise. when you register, juan, is there mandatory course on how to destroy evidence? [laughter] >> jesse: hilarity deletes her hard drive. this guy destroys his hard drive with hammers. i don't know how this guy plays the victim card saying that he is an anti-muslim jihadist, when they use it, the use it only when they want to beat the rat. at this guy is innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. but it looks so bad. especially when he's trying to flee the country. imagine if a trump staffer with fleeing the country -- >> dana: for russia. >> jesse: come on, this would be national news. >> dana: he initially got in trouble back in february. he and his whole family, doing

i.t. stuff. most of the democrats, debbie wasserman schultz cut ties with him in february. he was on her payroll until tuesday, the morning after he was arrested. what is that all about? >> juan: i think she's been very defensive of him. i don't understand why except to say that what we know about this story is that the head of the republican national committee, he's been pushing this and saying that this deserves more attention because it's potentially a national security issue that awan had access to congressional files over the computer and may have been shipping them off to pakistan or wherever. she wants to know more about that. >> dana: if you don't mind pausing for a second, we have that sound. >> debbie wasserman schultz has obstructed at every level something that affects potentially our national security. we also need to know why the dnc

never turned over there hard drives to the fbi to review it as to their hacking. >> dana: lisa, what do you think? >> lisa: of course we should be getting to the bottom of this. wasserman schultz is on camera trying to strong-arm the capitol police chief into giving her computer back. their big questions about this. the data that was transferred come at this guy had access to emails and files of dozens of members of congress as well as the password to the ipad that debbie wasserman schultz used for the democratic national committee business before she resigned as its head 2016. what information did debbie wasserman schultz want to get back? this guy is doing the same playbook, bank fraud. she blamed that investigation on sexism. he's blaming it on islamophobia. the same ultrabright pizza gate

media, anti-muslim bigotry looking into this. jane sanders blaming it on sexism, maybe you did something wrong here. >> dana: you are the most common sense of all all of us. >> dana: >> tom: this is a famiy values story. awan, $2 million from the federal government? >> dana: between the years of 2003 and now. >> tom: it's plenty of money. i could enroll my daughters and some i.t. classes. >> dana: that's true. actually we need more i.t. people. it's beauty when the fbi stop this man at the airport, they did not arrest him on any national security charge. it wasn't bank fraud, a primary residence but it was in fact for a rental property. the lawyer saying that may be just a placeholder and they do

have subsequent charges but -- >> dana: that's usually how it works. >> lisa: i can guarantee they didn't arrest him because they were islamophobic. >> dana: i would agree with that. there's a big new jobs announcement from the white house, we will tell you all about it when "the five"

♪ >> juan: president trump on the campaign trail promised he would create more jobs for americans. he proudly announced one of the biggest electronics manufacturer has agreed to build a new plant in southeastern wisconsin. >> for everyone who believes in the concept and the label made in the usa.

chairman put his faith and confidence in the future of the american economy. in other words, if i didn't getd elected, he not be spending $10 million. speak to tom, what we see here is the president saying i am delivering on my pledge, the crs are saying big money is going to fox con and they made promises about moving jobs to the u.s. and have not kept the pledge. but there's big money going to fox con. $3 billion in the state of wisconsin in addition to other tax incentives and the like. what you make of it? >> tom: the real surprise is a look at what block we are in. see block. at the should be number one. it's trump's fault that it's not number one on page one because he's talking about jeff sessions and tweeting about the military. it should have been fox conn

day. it's stealing jobs from china and america day. and anthony scaramucci is talking about stabbing people from the front. it's everything he promised. wisconsin, which he never stops talking about -- >> lisa: good thing he can't reach me. >> tom: it's got everything. with the wall, that will be buried on page three because -- >> juan: good point. that was interesting. dana, when you think about trump delivering on the promise to bring jobs, the question is, is this a victory or what we have seen more of before? carrier, keeping a thousand jobs and six months later, they are laying off 632. shutting down, moving to mexico, the steelmaker, electronics, even ford still moving their operations to mexico. >> dana: is a free market conservative, i think those

companies should make those decisions. if he's going to shine a light on this, then he should continue to hold their feet to the fire and make sure they follow through on that. it is true that fox conn has made promises before and those plans did not get billed but this is all being done in the town of janesville and some good news for fox conn there. they are some great employees. because the government has been thinking about this ahead of time, there has been some worker retraining being done. this plant won't open until 2020. that means that there is plenty of time to try to get as many workers as possible in that area that they can higher, up to speed, so they can ask to do those jobs. >> juan: jesse, do you view with this as a victory in terms of fox conn, supplying apple and a lot of those big manufacturers -- those jobs have not been in the united states. take the lead the united states.

the government is giving away billions in order to get them to establish factories here. >> jesse: they are not giving away billions, they are creating tax incentives so they don't have to pay a lot of taxes so they can slaughter it on waste. trump is making blue states grade again, juan. i think it's going to be enacted in 2020, the year trump will win the election. these are $54,000 a year salaries. it's everything that people have been talking about wanting to do. keeping jobs in america is trump's core message or one of them, to help him win reelection and these swing state blue state voters that may be lean democrat a little bit, come election day, maybe they will think trump is obnoxious and his style is a little annoying into his twitter

is out of control -- russia is crazy but he delivers results that help my family put food on the table and send my kids to college peers that will be the key to his reelection. >> lisa: from a purely political lens, 13,000 jobs in a state like wisconsin that a republican hasn't won since 1984 the president trump was able to deliver, that does help it. he did have a strong message to manufacturers in this country. that worker base, he was going to help them and get the help that they needed. that was the message and there signs of optimism, the national association of manufacturers, a 20 year high in optimism. the most optimism we have seen since july 2007, job growth exceed expectations in july. 220,000 jobs -- there are reasons to be optimistic now. if you can just deliver when working with congress on things like tax reform and health care,

i do think he has a strong message for the voters in 2020, particularly in regards to the economy. >> juan: with the question is politics or about delivering? the coal miners, we are going to bring her job back. it's just not realistic. >> jesse: they just opened a coal mine in pennsylvania, juan. what's sad about coal mining? >> juan: it's sad when you see automation and the cheaper sources of energy supplanting our need for coal and here come the president, playing on people saying oh, yeah, you will have your jobs back. >> jesse: that's helping people get work. >> juan: if it's that, i will bless it. but i don't see that. why is rush limbaugh criticizing republicans? we will tell you when "the five"

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>> lisa: rush limbaugh went on a terror against the g.o.p. establishment, accusing some republicans of a silent coup against trump. unleashing more of his fury. despicable trump is talking about here, why aren't these republican committees, why aren't these republican investigators -- why isn't my attorney general looking into hillary clinton's crimes? if we are going to investigate what went on with russia, how do you leave the democrats out of it and hillary clinton out of it? the republicans run the show. it's time for the republicans to start acting like it. politics is what it is. the republicans don't appear to want to play the game. >> lisa: dana, he also talked about republicans squandering the majority with things like obamacare. clearly republicans can get obamacare repeal and tax reform done on a reconciliation party line basis. if they don't get these done, are they going to squander the

majority? >> dana: it could be very difficult because it's unlikely -- i think the republicans will be able to keep majority in both house and senate come next year because i think the senate, they could pick up a couple of seats there but short of 60, the question is on regular order could they do it? at the show they are able to govern. one of the things initially that the committee did not go after the clinton and the attorney general than is president trump upon himself wht interview said i don't plan to hurt her. i think she's gone through enough. he's very magnanimous and every body thought that was so presidential. to go back now, maybe it's possible and there is some talk that bob mueller's investigation is also bleeding into what the democrats may have done, basically everyone would say everyone does it and they are dirty or maybe they'd find nothing at all. if you step back from those investigations, that's most

important one. the best opportunity to get tax reform. and american owned companies wanting to expand, the tax reform piece is the most important thing and it's got to put all their weight behind in september. >> lisa: jesse, did president trump make a mistake by saying i'm not going to go after hillary and i believe it alone? should republicans try to move forward on the investigations? >> jesse: he said that before all this russia hysteria. now i think you can play the clinton card. what always happens in washington, democrats overreach and republicans always seem to under deliver. democrats right now want to basically throw trump in jail. it republicans won't even look into the clinton foundation. the democrats socialize the health care system and republicans can't even repeal and replace. the democrats open the border wide open and their people in the house that won't even fund the border wall. right now, what you see is democrats treat politics like

life and death and republicans treat it like a parlor game. at the democrats will smear and destroy evidence. they will criminalize your behavior. republicans will run away from a headline in "the washington post" because they are afraid of bad press. they need to stick to our guns. voters put republicans in control of the government for a reason. they want to have the republican party to deliver. if they don't deliver, what are they good for? he have a quarterback in donald trump. he's got a great arm. he throws a long ball. if you don't have anyone blocking it for him in the house and senate, the guy will get stacked all day. did you understand that? >> dana: i followed the entire thing. >> lisa: dana, it was going through her mind. >> dana: i appreciate the season appropriate sports analogies. you can't do hockey in july. the preseason starts this weekend. >> lisa: one, is there an

element of hypocrisy here? they were talking about obstruction of justice. we know loretta lynch obstructed james comey and with and hillary clinton investigation. try to downplay it. apparently we don't know this but allegedly, loretta lynch told the clinton campaign that she wasn't going to go after -- >> juan: that's not true. >> lisa: allegedly. allegedly. what we do know is -- as they are not an element of hypocrisy here? >> juan: it's so curious to hear rush limbaugh say this. i think he's talking to republicans. he's not talking to democrats. he's talking to republicans about how republicans are behaving. i see this in the editorial pages and specifically "the wall street journal." they say this thing about going after hillary clinton reminds them of behavior that is practiced in turkey or the philippines, third world banana

republic stuff. it's just not normal for "the washington post" that the custom to the rule of law, a country like ours. you don't go after your political opponent. the decision was made that there is no basis for a prosecution. nonetheless, we have people saying oh, democrats don't know how to behave. >> lisa: not necessarily that she did anything wrong. tom, what do you think? >> tom: when i was in third grade i asked a girl to go see "star wars" with me and she said yes and i didn't know what to do. i didn't plan on her saying yes. do you get that analogy? [laughter] >> tom: they ask for the voters to elect him and now they don't know what to do. there are so used to opposition, they don't know how to govern and be mean. they do have to go after the democrats but they don't know how to do it. they are like me eighth grade. >> juan: what happened, did you take her? >> tom: i met her at the movies. i don't think that was a classy

move. i didn't know if i should take her on my bike. >> dana: eighth grade, i think you are allowed to meet at the movies. >> jesse: original. >> lisa: rolling stone taking on president trump with a provocative new cover who are these people?

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♪ >> tom: "rolling stone" magazine is added again. now setting their sights on president trump. at their most recent cover features a photo of prime minister justin trudell and asked the question "why can't he be our president?" it was also rolling stone that glamorized the boston bomber on one of their covers. >> lisa: we do more advertising for rolling stone. >> tom: i was going to ask dana, is this how they get in the headlines? >> dana: in this particular case, they like justin trudeau because he's cool and they like a cool president. they liked obama because he was cool and has a great summer plea of your list and believes that climate change is the most dangerous thing we have against humanity. >> tom: he snowboards. >> dana: it's a matter of style. if you had the same policies as

president trump, they would probably still like him. but he's cool. >> tom: style over substance. his hair is a color found in nature. these are my favorite quotes. trudeau has a tattoo of a raven inside planet earth. >> lisa: i will tell you why he's not going to be president, article two section one, clause five of the constitution. he's not a natural born citizen nor has he been a resident of the united states for 14 years. so that's why. this is the same publication that put the boston bombers on the front page and also brought us a race hoax as well. justin trudeau was horrible because not only to be seen recently with the pay out to a terrorist at $10.5 million and an embarrassing formal apology and a stupid statement about how he is creating a moral society even when things are unpopular. he's also a prolific panderer.

we saw him with the rainbow socks for gay pride. being a feminist on the day, i'm not a fan of him by any means. >> tom: are you finally going to unsubscribe for this publication. >> jesse: i told you that in confidence, shillue. i am surprised they are still in circulation. you know, if they like him, i say move the operation. we won't really miss rolling stone. >> dana: we will take fox conn. >> tom: they are fake news but they are cool fake news. juan. >> juan: i think this is anti-trump article. that's what it comes down to. basically he's so cool and so rational. a centrist as opposed to trump. one of the interesting things about this is even in the trump white house, they have called on trudeau to lobby for

president trump. remember? >> dana: and it worked. >> juan: his aides got trudeau to call and say don't pull back, let's talk about it and reopen negotiations and apparently trump was impressed. when you get the idea about this article, now trudeau is the adult in the room. i think it's a put down trump article. that's what it is about. >> dana: aren't they all? >> tom: "one more thing" is up next, everybody. ♪

♪ >> jesse: time now for "one more "one more thing." juan williams. >> juan: check this out. dramatic video caught by the coast guard, a scary moment after fishing boat capsized in alaskan waters, one great hero saved the day. the boat was fishing off the coast when it took on water well-being pulled to show her it suddenly flipped. throwing the crew into the dangerous seas. that's when the captain noticed one of his crew missing. half hour later, he spotted the man floating unresponsive. dove into rescue him in the frigid waves. it got his friend to a rescue boat. put him in there and then performed cpr, saving his life. he later said later he lost his twin brother to the sea and he wasn't going to lose his friend. greater love hath no man than this, that he would lay down his life for his friend. wow.

>> amazing. >> jesse: dana. >> dana: i'm over here. [laughter] >> dana: i wrote a little thing today, sharing some experiences and tips from one female white house secretary to another. as for any woman trying to make it in her chosen career path. you can check it out. good advice in here, jesse, you might even do some of this advice. [laughter] >> juan: hey, i am supposed insult jesse. >> jesse: take your turn. the daily show put together a hilarious video. it's the real reason scaramucci was hired by donald trump. ♪

♪ >> jesse: perfect. they do to get some work. lisa. >> lisa: i don't have anything funny but i do have good news. steve scalise's discharge from the hospital after nearly six weeks. as everyone knows, he sustained a single rifle wound in his left hip with an attempted assassination of republican members in congress as well as staffers. thank goodness he is okay. he still has a journey with the inpatient rehabilitation facility. but this is after a month of multiple surgeries. thank goodness he's doing all right. praying for him and his recovery. apparently he is in good spirits and looking for return of return. rehabilitation is almost complete. good to see him on the house -- i think republicans meet him with the votes right now. hopefully he gets back to work. >> juan: he called in the other day for the conference.

i mean, he is tough. >> lisa: what a tough guy. >> tom: john mccain coming back. amazing to me. >> jesse: tom shillue. >> tom: are proud men in blue. there was an illegal break in in colorado. take a look at this. >> dana: oh, dear. [laughter] >> tom: a little fun. nice catch, right? >> dana: he's like wait, i can't. he still has his spots. >> tom: took it out -- those legs, they are tough, right? he still could be dangerous. >> dana: and i worked on capitol hill, his district was in lakewood, colorado. what a small world. >> jesse: rewind what dana just said. a deer walks into the room and dana said oh, dear.

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