sake of this country the democratic party ignores that advice. that's it for us, good night from washington, "the five" starts right now and we'll see you tomorrow, have a great nigh night. ♪ >> i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld. this is "the five" ." president trump is renewing his attack on both the press and the critics, he tweeted only in the fake news media and trump enemies want me to stop using social media, 110 million people the only way for me to get the truth out. the mainstream media seems to be proving mr. trump right. here's a cnn political analyst david greco his analysis of the

white house. >> it's been a jokes, the lies he was going to come in and run a great organization and then he has this nonsense. scaramucci acting like it's his seventh grade homeroom instead of the west wing. it was really a joke. >> kimberly: listen to msnbc's chris matthews take a swipe at the president. >> faced with a full scale investigation by the house, the senate and a special counsel with collusion over russia over the 2016 election, president trump has engaged in a series of russian style purges. i think all of this going around and purging people, just like kim jong il and, when he gets scared in your position, trump seems to know how to fire. what do you think? >> greg: it's understandable

coming from them, it's not a surprise. you're seeing the two lanes, you're seeing the media late in the everybody else lane. the media is chasing rabbits. the rest of america is interested in the whales. the rabbits are rumors and conversations and some meetings and some staffing changes, those of the rabbits everybody chases and we chased them too. america is interested in the whales and the whales of the economy, economy, economy and security and terror. i had to frame it after the election as action versus words. they are preoccupied, the media is preoccupied with his words. america is preoccupied with his deeds. if you have problems with trump's character or his jokes or the way he acts, concentrate on what he does. there are four things that i look at that make me feel like things are going well. isis is not entirely gone but it's getting there. he's rolled back a ton of regulations, he withdrew from the paris accords, that symbolic

bob meant something, and then he's confirmed i think five judges so far. those are five whales that he has harpoon while the rest of the media just blubber's. >> kimberly: weighty delivery, dana is this fair criticism? >> dana: i think the whining about media bias is getting in their way of actually being able to get credit for things that greg just mentioned. every day we wake up and we have to talk about more stories about the fake news media except for when they actually confirm the stories that were in the fake news the night before that's confirmed in the briefing 12 hours later. i think reporters, the media, his enemies want nothing more that for him to keep tweeting. it gives them all that ammunition. if you look at some of the polling, supporters of his are like i don't know if this is actually helping you so much. the president wants to be taken

for his word and his actions. i can kind of separated but i can see some of this is bluster. tonight other media is covering the story, reportedly the president told some friends at a golf club at the white house is a dump. if they're running with this story. i can imagine the president would be joking when they said that. it's hard to live at the white house, in interviews that he did with "time" magazine, he loves being at the white house he think it's beautiful. he hardly ever comes back to new york. i do think the media has a tendency to run away with things that make the media look bad but i also think the president hinders his own message in trying to get those results by talking about the media all the time. >> juan: they got really good lemon cakes.

>> no living man, woman or child want trump to stop tweeting. no one wanted to stop tweeting, not as you say his adversaries who say more, more. they want the crazy, but also his supporters and hitters administration wanted to tweet, they wanted to tweet better, they want him to tweet differently than he's doing it. no one's trying to take the social media platform away from him, tweet all you want but don't blow up our message for the day. >> kimberly: dana has talked about that before. you have to give them something to talk about to fill the void. fair criticism? how do you honestly feel about the president tweeting? >> i don't think it helps him but i'm not alone in that. you're right, there's i think most of the trump voters say he should continue tweeting. a quarter of them say -- people

who voted for donald trump say they think this is the wrong way for him to go. if you ask all americans then you're like 70% of americans say this is ridiculous this is not the way to do business. after the communication about the ban on transgender people serving in the military with the pentagon didn't know. it got broken up, then there are people concerned. what's he doing? is he starting a bombing run? when greg says the press is chasing rabbits and concerned about whales, the presidents of compliments are like minnows. he's not gotten rid of isis. he's increase the military presence. when you get out of the climate accord, that's a great accomplishment? >> greg: people who believe in climate change even admit the paris accord was a disaster

because $100 trillion went to nowhere, that was a great move he's going to go further in the area of climate change than you would. >> your position is anybody who denies climate change who pulls away is doing good. >> greg: that is not my position, the deal itself from an economic perspective was poor, he sought wasn't in our best interest and he said if he could do another deal he would. >> juan: from melting glaciers and the like, it was a good dea deal. >> kimberly: let's take a listen to nbc news special correspondent tom brokaw about what he learned on a recent trip to wyoming. >> classic small-town community college, prosperous farm community voted 70% for trump, isaac said where are you now? 69.9 i would say at this point. they blame us. they say you guys are all in the

hands of the democratic party, it's a liberal cabal against this president, they don't feel any connection between what we do and how they live their lives and they are not entirely wrong. they look at these shows were doing analysis and commenting and they don't see anybody who looks like them who lives a life that they do. >> greg: you know what he likes wyoming? no l's in it. tom brokaw joked. the media would go to the pyramids and start the sand. they don't understand the bigger story, let's admit we do too. we are talking about tweeting when he we know he's never going to stop tweeting, we did an entire segment on tweeting we know he's never going to stop it. we like to talk about it. all these things that you see from the morning to the evening, the scaramucci thing was a staff change but everybody lead with it. while we have stuff going on in venezuela. were watching another great

experiment in socialism turn into civil war, that's not on our show. >> juan: did you just say the scaramucci thing was nothing but a staff change? >> greg: to me it was. it will be over. you can laugh but think about this. he was here for ten days we had a lot of fun with it, he came and he went. meanwhile, you look at venezuela, what's going on there? it's barely being covered, that means something. >> juan: i think he damaged president trump. >> greg: in the greater scheme of things that is tiny. it >> juan: not if you have chaos in the white house and you diminishing confidence in the white house's ability to perform central functions. >> greg: it's not evidence of chaos is evidence of establishing order. >> it's okay for people to watch this show and be interested in politics, i hope it's okay. we're sort of like a sport center. some people are wanted to see

the results, that's okay if you want to turn into the super bowl, that's okay. i have a different job and we play a different role, we want to know incrementally what's changing in what's going on. that's a function we fill. there are political junkies out there, this is a big country, 325 million americans. there is room for rabbits and whales. >> kimberly: what about venezuela, greg's point? why is that story not getting covered, loss of life and oppression. >> most of the world suffers. most of the world lives in misery, we fail to understand how fortunate we are in the united states to have the system we do in the prosperity that we do and occasionally we are forced to look outside of our bubble and say my god, how blessed we are. we can't spend every day all the time looking at every place in the world where human misery reigns. venezuela is on a rocket ride to the top of those charts. >> dana: i had an opportunity to fill in for

martha maccallum and you could do that. there's a direct tie because president trump designated maduro, as one of the people who personal sanctions against him. then he arrested two opposition leaders. if there is a tie, there are consequences for things that happened at the white house white house predicted president trump give a statement about that today? nope. there are things at the white house could do to drive forth that message that he is detecting decisive action to protect freedom and human rights in venezuela, they didn't do that today. they talked about tax reform. there will be a little bit more, they're also talking about college administration affirmative-action on friday, there may have that leak investigation too. this is american dream week.

this is why the suggestion is they need to have somebody in communication who is behind scenes, not on television all the time doing some long-term strategy to help them make sure that they get credit for the successes. >> day planner, week planner, month planner. >> juan: that's politics as usual, that's just smart politics but guess what? it's the principle, it's the president. >> kimberly: outrage after an illegal alien deported after 20 times as it accused of sexual assault, greg's monologue sexual assault, greg's monologue and the brutal attack next.

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called portland. do you ever wonder how the victims feel about that label, sanctuary city, who is a sanctuary for? it's an obvious but good question, for many on the left it's always about language, give something a cozy title, you can get away with anything. a sanctuary city, it just sounds good like so many bad things do. daisy cutter, road apple, socialism. a sanctuary city allowed a repeat creep to assault to citizens, that's what i would call sanctuary rate. it's important we call it that, if you can apply it to a city then why not a flight to the crime that occurred in that city? portland didn't do that but it just gave the the space to rape. he returned and he sanctuary

rape in a sanctuary city, all because that word sounds so good to so many people except to those victims who got no sanctuary at all. interesting thing, taxpayers may end up paying for it. do you think these policies are to blame? obviously the rapist rapes, what's the point? >> this happens repeatedly. this is not a one off as we talked about it a lot. you always have local authorities in dispute with ice officials saying today there some innovation. the governor of massachusetts filed legislation that would permit local law enforcement to detain certain unauthorized immigrants at the request of federal officials without having to do all of this back and

forth, giving law enforcement some leeway to be within the law and to protect people. there's some innovation at the state level that could be applied other places. >> kimberly: i think there's tremendous disparity that is a threat to public safety, you have about 300 jurisdictions in this country that refuse to cooperate with federal authorities and follow the law that are on the books. this is where i'm going to go in cities like portland and san francisco. when you look at it in terms of prioritizing that i'm as a matter of public policy, you look at the balance it's a way to second -- why is the priority to harbor criminal illegals and not follow the law on safety of law-abiding citizens. >> greg: if at the sky wasn't in the country those women wouldn't have been attacked.

the crimes are fewer but this one is 100% preventable you just don't have them here. >> juan: it seems to be he committed a crime and he should be put away. they reported he's a meth addict, there's just no way so he should be in the country having come and gone 20 times. my objection to this whole thing is we are demonizing all immigrants and all illegal immigrants so severely. >> greg: the monologue was just about him. >> juan: i think it's part of the trump effort to say their rotten, we've argued about it before. the numbers remain the same. illegals have a lower incarceration rate, there are lower crime rates where they live the native born american citizens and you have a lower crime rate. somehow it's preferable to do a political attack on immigrants as if that's going to boost the

president. >> greg: i responded to that before you even started it by saying that even though the rates might be lower, this is 100% preventable. i don't think the victims will be happy with the statistical differences. >> juan: door more in danger of your fellow american citizens but somehow all the focus is on the illegals. >> greg: this story is about this instance. you could argue this guy has more rights than you because you have 20 breaks. i don't think he would get 20 breaks anywhere. >> chris: we should point out how this happens, how does somebody 20 times, i have no idea in this gentleman's case. in this dudes case, but the reality is often time illegal immigrants game the system. they're here but they want to go home especially for illegal immigrants from mexico so they get deported and they get home whether they need to get away from trouble where they are at the united states and they want

to get home, they get deported and then they come back. how does somebody get deported 20 times to return to the united states? very often they are gaming the system. >> greg: chris has taught me a new thing. >> kimberly: they get to commit a lot of free crimes until the elastic escalate allo murder and sexual assault and then they get paid attention to. >> greg: we need to change that revolving door to a catapult. paul ryan declares it's time for a border wall as the white house is set to unveil a new immigration plan tomorrow, details ahead

♪ >> dana: speaker of the house paul ryan is out with the new online video, showing his support for president trump's repose border wall, take a look.

♪ >> i had the opportunity to travel down to texas to go to the rio grande valley and spend time with her border control. when you see what were up against, it gives you greater respect for what they do. they need more tools and more supportive to do their jobs effectively, were going to get it done this week. >> dana: the president and two senators will propose legal immigration reform tomorrow at the white house, there's another message were going to get through this week. the house funded the president's border wall request last week, this is a video that's following that up. >> kimberly: i've tried to be very optimistic and say yes, health care, yes, border wall. i think they intend to, i hope they figure this out ahead of time and are putting this forward because they know they can get it done.

>> dana: what's interesting is the polling has been consistent even from rasmussen saying the majority of americans think this is necessary, they don't necessarily want a wall but this is what the president wants he's going to get it. >> chris: i guaranteed by the time donald trump's term in office is over he will hold a ribbon-cutting at something he says is the wall. he was attacking the press and he said nobody is talking about -- and this is important -- illegal immigration is down, border security. >> dana: do you know why that is? as i always say, trump is the wall. i always say it. >> there's a lot of truth in that.

as the president comes to accept the fact that illegal immigration is down, there are ways to enforce at the border and internally, the need for this giant structure goes down, it's enough to be five border security. it's a definition skin from here on in. >> dana: you have agreed with me when i've said that. >> greg: i don't think that video was very persuasive. if the message is that it's time for the wall and used start showing beautiful pristine rivers, you've got to show why it's time. gangs, drugs, arrests. crime, you've got to say this is why the wall is necessary. it's interesting how he comes off as so manufactured because in this age of trump, everything is so raw and in your face.

that looked too artificial, too smooth. it looked like a really manufactured video, if you want to persuade people come that's my take on it. >> you should apply for this communications director, because you could put up better videos. >> that was what it was called? >> what was that? i missed it. >> juan: i think the politics of this are fascinating. this is where the game is right now. paul ryan looks to be struggling, his numbers have been falling off the cliff. he has now a democratic challenger back in wisconsin. it's interesting for me to watch all of this.

he was in december 47% favorable, today 48% negative, you see him being attacked by the president on the failure of all of these, why doesn't congress do more? >> dana: the house has been pretty good about the senate -- >> juan: you listen to conservative talk radio. >> dana: they want to make them as bad as nancy pelosi. >> juan: i think this is paul ryan coming back and saying to the right-wing hard-core, i'm with president trump. you've got a special election coming up in alabama, you're a little too close to him. it's pretty much a red state referendum on president trump. in virginia there's a governors race, you see candidates right now running away from trump even as they need his support.

>> chris: worst air wolf reboot ever. >> greg: with the strange relationships in china and north korea, donald trump should name the wall the even greater wall. >> juan: what if he offered chinese food on the wall? >> dana: we've got more coming, directly ahead as president trump prepares to strike north korea over there nr

♪ >> juan: secretary of state rex tillotson keeps calling for a dialogue with north korea and says we are not looking for war with the hermit nation. this after the regime carried out its longest ever missile tests with analysts say could

put most of north america within north korea's range. tomorrow, the u.s. air force will carry out its own long-range missile test, made while at south carolina graham says the president is ready to confront this escalating threat head on. >> there is a military option to destroy north korea's program itself. is not going to allow the ability of this madman to have a missile of america if there's going to be a war to stop, they're not going to die here. he's told me that to my face. >> juan: what you think for that? the potential for war. >> kimberly: is it is always there? i think this is the biggest national security threat is the united states is facing, the president thinks so. he is not going to allow it to continue, it has to be dealt with. it's very serious, i would stay

tuned. >> juan: the president over the weekend tweeted that china has done nothing. the chinese responded in their media by saying trumps emotional venting is no policy, what do you make of it? >> the name of the game is for china to become convinced that the united states is willing to do something to change the dynamic here. one of the things that the united states might do is bring dependents home from south kore south korea. soldiers were allowed to bring their families, you take the dependents home, you fly them home, you put things on a war footing. you try to convince the chinese that something might go off here because lindsey graham said thousands of people would die. if we were to engage in the kind of strike necessary, we would

not be talking about thousands of dead we would be talking about millions of dead. for the chinese, north korea represents antagonism toward the united states, antagonism toward japan and south korea. a good way to destabilize the region but it also represents a humanitarian crisis at any moment. 20 million north koreans living as a vassals to this madman, if this breaks bad china has a terrible problem on their hands. >> you have south koreans saying we are willing to talk. one of the potential points of leverage is to say we will not engage in military exercises with south korea. let's talk, let's see if we can settle this. >> dana: all options are on the table, the president will not telegraph. i do believe a more wholesome speech from the president is probably forthcoming and this is probably because he has a lot of

people he needs to talk to beyond just saying at the end of a pulled spray, were going to handle it. this is gone from being a theoretical exercise to a reality. when you have potential for strikes in san francisco, chicago, and new york, this gets real and people need to be assured and the speech will do that. if you talk to the citizens of this country, that would be north korea, i think it will happen then. >> juan: at the moment you can throw in syria, isis. >> kimberly: not like this. >> juan: given the immediacy of the behavior and the repeated tests, even president trump said i'm not going to allow you have those tests, while dave twice now had to major tests intercontinental ballistic missiles, they could reach denver in chicago now.

are you worried? >> greg: the interesting thing was the first said in the segment, rex tillotson said of dialogue. why would he bring up dialogue when we keep calling this guy a madman. it makes me think we don't really think he's a madman, we think he doesn't really want to do this. i think we may be over blowing this a little bit, this guy is excerpt sizing his options, as crazy as it may seem. why else would we talk about dialogue if we didn't think that was possible. there's the other point to this, we do have options until the strange house at the end of town. we didn't have to deal with, and other strange house is driving over past our house, throwing their bottles on our lawn and it could get worse. they have a landlord and the landlord is china and we have to ask ourselves is a country what

are we willing to give up? we buy a lot of stuff from china, is that one way to do it? we stop buying stuff from china, that hurts them. >> chris: we owe them grounded grounded. >> greg: skipped out on the bill, go to mars. >> juan: do you think he thinks kim jong il in might be rational, we try to talk to them and then we had to act. >> greg: if you know you're going to be completely annihilated, you have to think they know that. everybody wants an offramp. >> juan: should the president start delivering oval office addresses? we'll discuss

>> chris: that was president ronald reagan who was pitching a massive tax reform plan, it worked. he delivered the last major overhaul of the u.s. tax code.

is it time for president trump to bring out the big guns with an oval office address? any president's most powerful communication weapon if he wants to get reagan's results. bill mcgurn former chief speechwriter for president george w. bush suggest that trump should consider boosting his twitter feed to the speech to the big desk. >> at the chance to take them into the oval office, he is usually behind the desk and make his case. it's one of the greatest tools. it has to have a certain rarity to have some value. but it was surprising to me that when unused, it's a tremendous bully pulpit. the >> chris: i don't know who that great journalist who asked him that question, but we would acknowledge the world has changed for oval office addresses, as much as it is his most effective platform in a lot of ways. you're in america's living room. the world has changed. when ronald reagan did that,

networks would be obliged to carry it. now networks tell presidents -- >> kimberly: there is no weight the networks would not cover the prime time oval office address, there's absolutely no way they wouldn't do it. use your best tool, use it. especially of tax reform is your most important issue, now is your time. the setting is so important, it also tells your allies what you are for, it tells the congress what you will expect and it makes everybody stop for about a week as the preparation for the address starts. he gives the address and he's going to be on the road talking about it. i think you should do it. there are opponents to his mill, wherever you give that speech it will pale in comparison. >> chris: presidents think that address to the joint session of congress is the platform. that desk, the resolute desk in

that setting in the oval office lets everybody know what this is and what the magnitude is. >> i think it's a powerful tool, it should be utilized. it takes the message directly to the american people, instead of addressing just the congress. i like that feel of it. >> chris: like television, it's a very intimate medium. when you go out in the world they don't know you. >> greg: if you knew anything about me you'd run screaming, you human mess. to use a golf metaphor, this is another club that you have in your bag. you do your tweets and you do the rallies, i would change the subject. i wouldn't have it in the oval office, i would do it in the bedroom, and mike pence would be standing there. it would be great for tax refor reform.

>> chris: after dark. wong, president obama waited to use the oval office, he waited too long. he waited until the bp oil spill, had to use that to get control of it. it is one of the toughest place in presidential communication, we've also seen presidents in the past look like they are dying an end weathering behind the desk. >> juan: it's a big stage but said it's a depreciating currency, when you use it to better use it well for the first time. the networks especially after they see you use it as a publicity stunt, they're going to buy offer that's going to hurt you, they didn't cover and oval office address. i think back to president

george w. bush after 9/11. the whole country sat down and watched and understood the magnitude of the situation. unless you are saying the situation is truly a great situation of concern to every american and i need to speak to you tonight, be careful about over using it >> kimberly: don't listen to one. >> juan: just recently what i was hearing from republicans on capitol hill, why is the president not out there pushing the health care bill for us? it's before he has a chance to do something different on tax reform. >> chris: the greatest presidential speech of the last generation was 5 minutes and 30 seconds long, it was ronald reagan's address on the challenger disaster. one more thing is up next. one more thing is up next. ♪

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how i my? how is greg. when you look at happiness about about a 64. i got new shoes. my hangover residue is at 13 because it's getting late at night because it's wearing off. desire for wine goes up to 83 because hangover residue goes down, the desire for wine goes up. bloated, emmett 68. it's the vacation weight. existential dread i met 28. i'm not as mad about stuff as i used to be or i would've done i hate these people. existential dread is at 28 which is pretty good. it's a charge that was done by pugh and rasmussen. >> kimberly: that was compelling and also made up. one.

>> juan: today, august 1st but not just any august 1st, it's the fifth birthday for two very special girls, the twins pepper and wesley, my granddaughters. over the weekend they had extremely wild and wet party with 2,000 neighbors in the school friends, they neighbors, the theme of the party? superheroes. check out this cake that my daughter made for them. happy birthday, grand dad's is known as pop-up. >> kimberly: i remember last year they had gorgeous cakes too. that was fun, thank you for tha that. >> chris: every parent will know this feeling, especially parents of young men. i want you to meet charlie edwards. he's from britain and his

parents arranged a sleepover party for him at the natural history museum. he was having a really good tim time. he noticed that if this play been identified wrongly and he told his parents and they said i'm sure you're wrong. and then he said no, dad, i'm sure i'm right and they went and told the museum and guess what, he knew more about that nut dinosaur that the natural history museum in london and they apologize to charlie and change the display. every parent of sons who has ever been shamed by their ignorance of dinosaurs, feel better because in fact even the great london natural history museum -- >> greg: you left out the best part, they fired the 75-year-old curator. that kid is a tattletale! your encouraging kids to tattle on adults, that's wrong.

>> kimberly: if you could kindly stretch your dvr so you'll never miss an episode of this "special report" coming up right now. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. welcome to the white house. the president in the east room touted economic successes. on the other end of pennsylvania avenue, the way forward on health care reform, tax reform, raising the debt ceiling and passing a budget, still unclear on capitol hill tonight. counselor to the president kellyanne conway will join me to react to the news in a few minutes. we begin with a fox news exclusive. the defense department inspector general has completed an investigation into a pentagon program that offers foreign-born individuals an expedited path to