check out my radio so, if you can't find your local station, go to foxnews.com. have a great night, everyone. "the five" is n n n n n n n n n. unless you have a different rundown. ♪ >> greg: hello, i am greg gutfeld. a claim as her suitcase, dana perino. "the five." the causes on vacation. >> north korea does not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury. like the world has never seen. >> greg: oh, dear. as usual, a threat. >> the first time that the

dangerous apocalyptic statement of the north korean regime have been met by dangerous apocalyptic statements that by the president of the united states. >> president trump sounds more like a north korean leader than an american leader. >> who helped him write this statement? was it just him? it was a frightening selection of words. >> this is the most dangerous flash point in the world. every word that the president speaks about north korea is usually carefully crafted and vetted with the secretary of defense, secretary of state, we would preview any language with our allies. it seemed in this case that none of that happened. >> greg: funny how the press -- [laughter] >> greg: funny how the press knows more about donald trump's words the end of north korea's actions. i guess they feel they are the only ones allowed to scare people to death. >> we are actually supposed to scare people to death on this subject.

the talk isn't as free as it is about a preemptive or surgical military strike. >> greg: i get it, fire and fury sounds extreme. it like a sequel starring vin diesel. the crazier than the crazy guy trick. whenever there is not guy looking me on the subway, the armor line, i talked myself loudly. he usually moves on and says i am not worth the risk and frankly, i smell. we know north korea does crazy better than anybody but so does donald trump, which is good. let's look at north korea, now let's zoom out. 25 million people living in a dark hole. existing like a raccoon under your house for decades. that raccoon isn't nuts but acts that way to keep you from trying to kill it. it lives in the dark as the rest of the world rolls merrily on. the question is, has this raccoon gone batty or is simply displaying strategic irrationality? snarling to keep everyone at

bay? if we do nothing, they do nothing but if they do something, it's over for them. maybe they won't. i mean, do you think they will risk it all on guam? nope. a raccoon stays in its whole while trump speaks to them in raccoon. i say instead, work about the truly apocalyptic. all they need is a dirty bomb and a chance. north korea is truly a risk. radical islam? dana, you almost took a job in guam. what a guam do to deserve this? i feel bad for guam. >> dana: in graduate school, there was a job going for guam at the base. instead, i ended up going up to washington, d.c. the swamp. >> greg: what happens now? >> dana: what happens now? the compilation you did, it's

good and instructive. it happens over and over with trump. after a night's sleep, you wake up and go oh, okay, wait. i get it. yesterday, it wasn't that it was off-the-cuff, obviously he was talking about north korea with his national security team all the time but it wasn't written down and it wasn't in a teleprompter and did not go through white house staffing. this is the president of the united states. he has to make a decision now. he's facing something that no other president has faced. now the situation got real. he has to do something. he was talking directly to north korea. i think he believes that his comments would reassure americans. i don't know if that actually was the case. he will figure that out but for me, yeah, what he said is true. if north korea does something, we will do that. >> greg: marie, he's a negotiator. do you think this is a negotiating stance?

well, we will blow you up too. you somehow meet in the middle. >> marie: is a really complicated thing that all the administrations for decades have tried. the problem for me with his rhetoric is that he sort of backed himself into a corner here. he's almost promising very escalatory what would be very dangerous military action and there are no good military options. they are all ugly. it's almost like it's shown to be an empty threat if he doesn't do anything. >> greg: it like a red line, marie? >> marie: we were talking about this before the show, i would tell the president not to get anywhere near redlines. things are very complicated and i don't know if the america people know what he's talking about but who i really care about is the north korean dictator. and how he's calculating what donald trump is saying. and how he will respond. >> greg: kimberly, do you think that the north korean dictator really thinks we are

going to invade? or is he just doing this to establish some kind of relationship? >> kimberly: i am here representing the redline. it [laughter] >> kimberly: indeed. he knows i'm talking to him. i think the comments that were directed at both north korea, in terms of moving military assets, russia has done so and now china because they want to cover their bases here. especially because of yes, the inflammatory rhetoric by the president but i didn't think he chose his words carefully. i think you meant to say it. that's exactly how he feels. i'm sure if they tried to persuade him, they were largely unsuccessful. you have to think -- kim jong un, china, this guy could in fact do this. you see them respond in time to prepare themselves for it. i would take them seriously.

i don't think he is ruling out any options and i think he thinks this is the biggest threat we are facing right now in the country. >> greg: jesse, i think it's the longest time -- we use rational, conceptual terms. in iran they burn the flag the everyone else is saying death to america. it's kind of nice to actually use their language and see what happens. >> jesse: wright, trump was speaking in a language that the north koreans can understand. obama's fluffy talk, what did not result in? the north koreans nuked up. they accelerated their nuclear program while obama was speaking deliberately, with very diplomatic tones. what happened also under barack obama, he crippled our missile defense system. bill clinton also shares some earth possibility here too. he gave the north koreans $5 billion and says they were going to freeze and dismantle a

nuclear program and the u.n. was going to respect it. how does that work out? not so well. i think it's a big asset, before the north koreans knew what president obama was going to do, which was going to be nothing. now there's a new sheriff in town. the language is directed not only at korea but also china. the democrats who have been itching for a fight with russia over the last six months or so can now say trump's rhetoric is over the line. vladimir putin is murderous butcher who declared an act of war on the united states and we needed to bomb the kgb as a result. some of these senators are putting out all these statements about trump's rhetoric. they didn't put out any statement when north korea fired a missile. these muscles are aimed at l.a. and print back san francisco. trump is china protect all americans. he's trying to protect all

americans. we have to face the real threat, not donald trump, it's north korea. >> greg: i want to bring up -- an elegant piece this morning. it's about time, just cutting it down a little. i'm kidding. unless we decide what we want, we are negotiating for more negotiating and that gives time for your adversary to achieve their end. the question we have to ask is before you negotiate, what you want? what do we want? america doesn't want a war. >> dana: i think he knows what he wants for his presidency and what his responsibility is. no president would want to have that. he's not going to be able to pass this problem on in its current form to another president. that happened under clinton, bush, and obama.

president obama told president-elect trump that the toughest problem i am leaving for you is north korea. i'm sorry about it but here we have it. the concern on the intel side of things, at that meeting, president trump -- sorry, president obama said in your term, it's likely that this will come up. this happened in five months. our intel is difficult to get because we don't have any assets on the ground and the intel we had was wrong. if indeed they are now to map it. smaller missiles on icbms. >> greg: marie, what should we do? >> marie: one thing we need to do is to really focus on getting intel, that's the crucial issue, i think. we have to do all the above. we have to put economic pressure, especially on china. i think they hold the key to whether we can actually get some progress in north korea because you have the head of special

operations saying every military option is incredibly ugly. the obama administration did the play missile defense to korea. we did deploy it to deal with north korea. we have to do more of that. it's not an end all be all. >> jesse: during the '80s -- i don't remember, i was a young lad. [laughter] >> greg: you were only wearing khakis at the time. >> jesse: president reagan was criticized as being this reckless cowboy. he was saying the soviet union with an evil empire. and he was putting missiles in western europe. while also negotiating. this is exactly what president trump is doing now. he's got the carrot and a stick and we are going to see what happens. >> greg: kimberly, last word to you. i think we value human life

more. >> kimberly: than they do. the disregard for humanity and public safety and the general well-being of their citizens, you know, they don't care if they are starving and have food. it's horrific conditions. yeah, they are hoping they are going to say wait, the cost is too high and of course when you look at it from any military calculation, it's extreme and it's ominous. great care must be taken. bombastic, et cetera. if the president had to do it over, he would do it again. >> greg: i just don't like the fact that north korea is making it our problem. it feels like they are trying. >> marie: they have an external foe to say this is our problem and unfortunately, the president's rhetoric provides that. >> dana: can i add one more thing? >> greg: one more thing. >> dana: all the problems of the world come to the president's desk. the danger here is that they can

handle a lot but there's this north korea thing and in the meantime, russia is still threatening ukraine and elsewhere. you have iran doing funny business all throughout the region. especially in lebanon and syria. venezuela about to be a failed estate, a growing humanitarian crisis in africa and there's probably so many other things i haven't mentioned, like climate change. >> greg: we are upbeat. fbi raid in the home of the former fbi chairman. what were they looking for? we always were told we were german. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.

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♪ rhinestone cowboy ♪ riding out on a horse >> dana: another dramatic development, and fbi raid on the home of president trump's former campaign manager, paul manafort. ed henry has the details. it's >> good to see you, dana. this raid happened in late july. other materials from the home of paul manafort in virginia. all these documents related to the investigation into the 2016 russian meddling in the election.

federal agents were armed with a search warrant and they raided the home in the predawn hours of july 26. the timing is significant. one day after manafort met voluntarily with members in the senate intelligence committee. they told "the washington post" the search warrant was an indication that investigators may have had reason to believe manafort could not be trusted to turn over all the records that had been requested in a grand jury subpoena. jason maloney told fox that fbi agents executed a search warrant and manafort has cooperated with law enforcement. our own fox news analyst judge napolitano said they may believe there was a crime there and persuaded a federal judge there was good reason for this search. >> we don't trust them to give

them to us and preserved them for his own lawyer is telling us he can't control his client. >> president trump is trying to distance himself saying he only played a small role in the campaign. he was brought in in march of 2016, they did the convention for the g.o.p. nomination. and manafort resigned last summer. we were talking about this on the story earlier. why is this breaking now? the raid could have been a signal to paul manafort but leaking it now could also be a signal to other people involved in the case. they may try to save your meaning business here. >> dana: and i didn't mean to -- >> kimberly: if you didn't hear it. >> dana: kimberly, one of the things in comey's testimony, when he was relaying the conversation with

president trump, he said if one of my satellites did something wrong, that would be good to know. by satellites, i guess he was meeting people like paul manafort. >> kimberly: i think that's fair. in terms of what mueller is doing, maybe they are trying to flip manafort and they are putting a real squeeze on him. maybe something they heard and also whether or not the veracity of the statements, now they are going to go through this. and then decide what they have. and probably try to get him to close in on a bigger fish. >> dana: and including the ukrainian guy, $10 million a year. text messages that were released between his daughter saying this is blood money. this is maybe not the best person to have in your orbit. >> jesse: yeah, it's never

good when the fbi raids her house and so on. i mean, i don't know the guy. but i do know that he's done some consulting business and lobbying for african dictators. his friends with some arms dealers. he has represented rebel groups in africa. now lately he's been dealing with a lot of ukrainian politicians and that's why the democrats are trying to go for the russian angle. it trumped brings them in for just a couple months. the conventions, that's what he specialized in. he did it for dole. he was apparently at that meeting with the russian woman. they raided his house. who knows what they're going to find? he better have clean books because if he doesn't have clean books, he's going to go down for a white-collar crime. maybe they try to flip him but what does he have anything on? i think it's a conspiracy that the left is going into. >> dana: when they do something like that, a preened n

raid -- do they want to get something and get out? >> greg: i just hope it doesn't happen to me. if you're going to show up, if there after i've had coffee. i don't think i could handle a predawn raid without my coffee. yes, that guests have left. and i get myself together after the coffee. it's not surprising that they are investigating men afford m. he has more russian ties than moscow. rich dudes in russia by definition are after the fall corrupt. it doesn't matter? i don't know. it's going to be a lot of work and time. i don't know what to make of this. trump fired him already. he fired him because he didn't trust him. >> dana: right, maybe he knew he wasn't the best people. >> greg: we all make mistakes. >> dana: obviously asking

dictators deserve representation two. >> marie: he didn't register the foreign agent. i know it's not the world's worst crime but i've always said that the people are focusing the most are back on our manafort and flynn. having done super shady things, not been honest and forthcoming when they didn't lobbying on behalf of ukrainian dictators and now retroactively going to get right with the law on some of these things? i don't know what's going to come all that this but -- >> dana: dan rather's got some words of praise for some leakers. that's next. that's next. ♪

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>> dana: >> kimberly: the ongois in washington are hurting our country but dan rather doesn't think so. the disgraced news reporter who once said america is a pile of fake news -- >> most sources that don't want to be identified, they feel so strongly about something and says the public has to know this. obviously president trump and those and his administration did not want this information out but somebody somewhere said it you know what? the public needs to know this and they did a public service by letting someone know. at this time, "the new york times" knew it. >> kimberly: greg, is he on the money? >> greg: know. a lot of people remember rather for being self righteously wrong about everything. if it was sunny outside, he would say there's a fiery orb crashing into earth.

he coasted on a brand of preposterous seriousness. that kept people from actually questioning his credibility. let me define what a leak is. it's something you love that hurt something you hate and it's something you hate if it hurt someone you love. he likes this and he says it's for patriotic value but he really likes it because it hinders our president he hates. >> kimberly: i think you summed it up. >> greg: i'll just be down at the bar. >> kimberly: okay, bye-bye. >> dana: the value of a leak is in the eye of the beholder or the recipient, if you are a reporter. especially if they are forged documents. remember the pentagon papers? looking back in history, if you look back on that -- i can't imagine what it was like at the time but most students are taught that that was patriotic at. even though it was a huge national security leak. and snowden -- including people that are defending

president trump, they like and snowden leaks. it gets a little convoluted and i would say the leaks to be most concerned about are the ones that deal with classified information that can lead to people getting hurt. especially at our assets. >> kimberly: absolutely. okay, jesse. >> jesse: let me get this straight -- north korea is about to throw a nuke at l.a. and people are worrying about it with the is going to be like in a hundred years? that's what they are worrying about right now. they are always so righteous. they never actually break the law because they are doing a public service. you can riot and be a democrat, destroyed evidence and be a democrat. it's always done for good cause. do i have that right? and then dan rather was fake news before there was fake news. this guy came in and tried to frame george w. bush with forged documents on the eve of the election. he got fired. that was the public service. bye-bye, dan. going back to the global warming thing, they leaked out that this

is the warmest decade since 1500 years ago. you are saying in 500 a.d., we knew what the temperature was? a guy with a bow and arrow wrote down the temperature of the entire earth on the cave wall and that's the baseline for what our scientists today are working with? it doesn't make any sense. the weatherman can't even get the weather tomorrow, let alone 100 years from now. >> kimberly: this has frustrated you to no end. only the weather channel could solve our problems. marie. >> marie: dana said, there's a difference between classified leaks and nonclassified leaks. i know you've talked about that a lot. >> kimberly: tell our viewers. >> marie: with classified leaks, it's a crime. you can go to prison for it. they are all over the place and there's chaos. throughout our history, people who leak things when the

government is doing something illegal or something they want to hide from the public, which i think has at times been a good thing for our democracy. i don't remember the g.o.p. being upset when the private server leak. or when wikileaks -- who people in the g.o.p. hated under president bush -- sold democratic emails and it leaked them. >> jesse: what about the emails about bill clinton and -- >> marie: i know you don't like leaks that are of unclassified things either. do you, jesse? >> jesse: i just don't like global warming leaks. at low on my list. >> dana: the reason we were against the hillary leaks, we know at some point it was going to happen to all of us. >> greg: yes, we are all next all next. >> marie: greg, you were saying something? >> greg: i was just drawing a picture of a producer. nate fredman. [laughter] >> greg: that's me excited for the show. this is jesse getting really

happy. that's nate. >> kimberly: that was fascinating. it's 18 too young to vote in america? one governor is threatening to raise the age limit to cast the ballot. here why, stay next. ♪

to expose their hypocrisy. >> if they can't make the right decisions to buy cigarettes, i don't think they should be able to vote. secondly, it's too young to buy

cigarettes, i think we ought to not listen send them to war uny are 21. >> jesse: if you've ever seen "watters world," that's a perfect example to raise the vote to 21, but do you think there's any other reason? >> kimberly: you are right -- [laughter] >> jesse: thank you. answer the question. >> kimberly: on a serious note -- i watch your show. yes. the voting age, should it be higher? i don't know. i'm going to say that if you can serve your country and go and fight overseas and give your blood and your body, you should be able to cast a vote in this country. absolutely. i encourage people to do so. people are fighting for this. in some the countries across the world. >> greg: he's making a bigger point. he's saying if you don't trust somebody to buy smokes at 18, how can you trust them to fight

wars? imagine denying a cigarette to an injured soldier. if a guy is sitting there and you want to take the pain away, every time a guy is down and hurt, they hand him a cigarette for a reason. at the nicotine helps you forget about the pain. i think he's basically trying to make a symbolic point. i think voting age is irrelevant. they should vote based on how much you can bench press. [laughter] >> jesse: okay, so maybe not for you. >> greg: i can bench press my own weight jesse. >> jesse: you lost weight. you look great. >> greg: [laughs] >> jesse: dana, when you were 18, were you smart enough to vote? >> dana: of course. >> jesse: who am i talking to? >> marie: i think people who are 18 should be allowed to buy alcohol too. i think we are delaying adolescence for so long and it's preposterous. >> jesse: can you have firearms when you are 12?

>> dana: i think we would be better off by trusting people earlier and hopefully they would not have as much binge drinking more problems later on. >> jesse: raising the voting age to 21 would lower democrat turnout. >> marie: is not that too many young people vote -- paul lepage, this is not a serious policy discussion about how old you have to be to vote. he just mad that he got overridden because people in his state and legislator don't like him because he's an embarrassment. >> jesse: how old were you when you had your first cigarette? >> kimberly: oh, my god. >> marie: i think my parents are watching. i never had a cigarette. >> greg: i was 15 and i confessed to my parents immediately because i thought they could spell smell it on me. back in '87. it was next to the paperbacks.

>> jesse: were you smoking on planes? [laughter] >> greg: -- >> dana: no but i remember being on a plane when smoking was allowed. i was a kid. >> greg: i smoked in 1996 on a plane to england and it was amazing just sitting there. going wow, this is great. >> jesse: do you remember when bloomberg banned cigarettes and bars in manhattan? everyone threw a tantrum. i thought it was a great idea. i like that idea. >> greg: it created more fights on the street. be pill or out of the bars and people were trying to get through and it would be more fights because people were out in front of bars and people would be leaving the bar and not drinking as much. >> kimberly: you're just too lazy to go outside. >> greg: i don't smoke anymore. >> kimberly: you vape. >> greg: i vape. >> jesse: you seem like a cigar smoker, i don't know. next, a doctor played by will

smith in the movie concussion has a controversial new warning for parents about letting kids play football. here, when "the five" returns

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>> marie: in 2015, will smith started in a controversial film called "concussion," talking about the head trauma of nfl players, he played a doctor, figuring out the brain disease called cte. he's speaking out about the risk of contact sports. reportedly saying someday there will be a district of attorney who will say it was child abuse on the field. it was the definition of child abuse. full disclosure, i'm a huge football fan. go bucks. i'm an ohio state fan. i love every level of the game. child abuse? come on. >> greg: he said as the textbook definition of child abuse. that was almost offensive to people that have been through child abuse. and if he's thinking about -- i think he's trying to say it's

risky but theoretically, all risks can be seen as child abuse through his eyes. skateboarding, when i was a kid skateboarding, i never wore a helmet. cheerleading, drinking with uncle greg is a risk but cheerleading has a lot of injuries. what i think the bigger potential or psychological harm is treating your children as virtue signals in gender issues. children can no longer go through phases, they are one gender trapped in another and then they changed their mind. i think we are in danger of dealing with -- inflicting psychological damage than actual physical damage through roughhousing. >> marie: we all have to acknowledge their problems in football, and contact sports in general. a hockey, lacrosse. you have to be careful with younger children. give a 10-year-old son, does he play football? >> kimberly: he is playing football. >> greg: how dare you,

kimberly? lock her up! >> kimberly: yes, do it. >> marie: what you hear when you hear that doctor's comment? >> kimberly: he's not playing like that. it's a light football, touch football. in addition to lacrosse and soccer. they diversify it. tennis, all of the above. what i let him play in a competitive league? he's not doing that. i do think it's a big problem in his dad plays football. got a college scholarship but then was injured. he doesn't want him to play football. he's like play something else, play lacrosse. et cetera. >> greg: to think it's too dangerous -- soccer, if you get hit in the head. >> dana: if you look at the numbers, the injury drastically goes up when you jump from high school to college. it just jesse, where'd you come down on this one? >> jesse: i had a concussion and anyone that watches "the

five" knows that i can go over and quick cylinders. i played it. if i had a son, i i have horse would let him play. i think he would be a great football player. [laughter] >> jesse: is the greatest board ever, i think. if you're going to say is child abuse, so is sending your kid to the military. so is loading them up with fast food. it causes diabetes. smoking around them. secondhand smoke causes cancer. taking them on a ski trip. more injuries with skiing than football. of course football comes with a risk. it's important that everybody knows those risks and i bet 99% of the football players, knowing the risk, would still put the pads on and go out there and drill somebody coming across the middle. >> marie: i think you're hearing some former players who are conflicted on this. it dana, are there things we can do? this language seems so explosive that it almost -- it makes conversation harder. >> dana: we started the show talking about president terms rhetoric, that it was hot and

explosive for a reason, he is try to make a point so that people might change their behavior. i think that this is kind of the same thing. i don't have a problem with it. parents can make their own decisions. i asked him about this on a podcast, i don't have children. he said he was very much preferring that his two sons not play football and in the future, people will look back and say wow, i can't believe people actually used to do that because it was so dangerous. >> marie: right, do you think this doctor has any kind of credibility left? he was well respected, the will smith movie -- >> dana: while, you are tough on him. >> jesse: football is great, everybody loves it. a billion-dollar industry. that's what everybody does on sundays and it creates a lot of wealth for a lot of people from a lot of disadvantaged backgrounds. everyday plays football. he learned a lot about team chemistry and the ball is america. you're never going to take away

america. >> greg: it's baseball, jesse! >> jesse: baseball is boring. no one watches baseball. >> greg: baseball is an art form and football is a bunch of men at grunting. >> jesse: i'm good have a bunch of football players show up at your door. the nfl has taken a lot of precautions recently to make sure that concussion protocols are followed so people don't get sent back out there after they get that. >> marie: and so is middle school and high school. anyway, "one more thing" is up next. ♪

>> greg: "one more thing," dana. >> dana: today is national book lovers day. i was a happy camper. i asked on twitter what your favorite ones are. there's a whole bunch of good recommendations. go through that thread. you will see some good ideas. >> greg: how dare you use this to plug your book! >> dana: aside from the books that i'll our friends on fox have written, three that are books of fiction. "everyone brave is forgiven -- " "the confusion of languages," took a and then "chemistry," not necessarily the book i would've picked up but it was recommended

and so i got it and i loved it. happy reading. >> jesse: >> greg: way to turn e five" into pbs. up next, reviewing the latest opera somewhere. kimberly. >> kimberly: and now for something totally's emulating. it's time for kimberly's food court. yes. all right, how many people out there love cheetos? raise your hand. >> dana: my sister loves them. >> kimberly: this is awesome and i love them. an important new story, she does are opening a pop-up restaurant in new york city next week, called the spotted cheetah, of course. it has 11 cheetos inspired dishes. she does inspired meatballs, tomatoes. and cheetos mac & cheese for the

kiddies. between 8-$22. we will check it out. by reservation only. it appears the reservations have been scooped up but please let us in. everybody asked for a back to take home. >> greg: this is my dinner. i will be eating it in the bathtub while quietly weeping. >> kimberly: you too? [laughter] >> jesse: okay... i took a fashion risk it tonight, as you can see. it paid off. i want to thank... who is this -- exclusively tailored for waters world. my man jack amo. he hooked me up with this jacket. if you want to look like this, book at taylor. i'm going to go with the chito's look. >> greg: a suit for me, it didn't fit. i tried it on twice.

it was just weird. >> greg: and >> jesse: really? he's watching! >> greg: i don't care, it didn't work out for me. anyway, marie. >> marie: in my previous life before i got to fox, i was the state department spokesperson who briefed at the podium everyday and the person who does not now is heather nauert. she's a former fox colleague. there she has. that's from her briefing today, much of it was on north korea. my one more thing is it's a really tough job. it's a very demanding one and she is by far the best spokesperson the administration has and they are not using her enough. >> greg: i agree. >> marie: she spent all of today -- i watched the briefing. try to make sense of a really competent issue for an administration that hasn't always made sense on foreign policy. >> greg: >> jesse: wow, you werg so well. >> marie: i know, we always

talk about how this administration needs some help and they have a gem. it down the street at the state department, my old job. they should give her more. >> greg: you know what else we have common with her? both on "the five." she was in for you, once. she did a great job, by the way. we didn't even do miss you. [laughter] >> kimberly: she loves foreign policy and national security. >> greg: kimberly, i have "one more thing." greg's greatest of all time. otherwise known as goats. let's roll the tape. what's on top of it? a goat, the greatest of all time. look at him. he's fantastic. he jumped onto the cruiser because they were looking for a lost pony. it happens all the time. you are looking for a lost pony and a goat climbs on the car and they got him off but he comes back. that's what goats do. >> dana: i think you should have saying that. >> greg: that's enough.

set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." why would you do that anyway? "hannity" is up next. ♪ remember, 5:00 will never be the same. "special report" starts now. >> bret: the first indication of an american preemptive attack, the army of north korea will turn the u.s. mainland into the theater of a nuclear war. that from the north korean state run television after president trump's warning of fire and fury if the north keeps threatening the u.s. welcome to washington. i am bret baier. as the rhetoric gets hotter, the president's top diplomat trying to tone it down. rex tillerson in guam, a u.s. territory and potential north korean target, trying to be the voice of calm. suggesting north korea should engage in a dialogue with t