as always, thanks for being with us. we will never be part of the establishment, destroy trump media. we appreciate your support. we'll be here tomorrow night. ♪ >> >> mark: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i am mark steyn, filling in for tucker while he vacations with his family. president trump's address aggressive rhetoric toward north korea, vowing fire and fire and fury if kim jong un's regime goes too far, was bashed by many people in washington. if they hope to change the president's behavior, they clearly don't understand him. today, trump said his only regret was that he may not have been tough enough. >>gh frankly, the people that we questioning that statement, wasn't too tough? may be it wasn't tough enough. they have been doing this in our

country for a long time, for many years.y it's about time that somebody stuck up for the people of this country and for the people of other countries. so if anything, maybe that statement wasn't tough enough. we are backed 100% by our military, we are backed by everybody, and we are backed by many other leaders. north korea better get their act together or we will be in trouble, like few nations ever have been in trouble. in this world. >> we are preparing for many different alternative events with aiv north korea. he has disrespected our country greatly. he has said things that are horrific. and with me, he's not getting away with it. he got away with. it for a long time between him and his family. he's not getting away with it. it is a whole new ball game. he does something in guam, it will be an event the likes of which nobody has seen before, what will happen in north korea.

that's not a day or, as you say, that is a statement of fact. >> mark: yeah, and just to be clear, north korea is pledging to fire four missiles around guam, north, south, east, and west. rebecca heinrichs is a fellow at the hudson institute. david tafuri is a former state department official. they both join us. first are you. there really two views on this. one is that the big problem is that north korea is threatening to fire four missiles at guam and for how a whole bunch of people, the problem is the president's rhetoric. what is the big burning issue? >> absolutely. north korea is the problem. make no mistake about it, north korea's leader is erratich he is a war criminal and he is very dangerous. it's appropriate for us to make sureit he knows that we will use overwhelming force if he does anything to strike out against america, america's interest,

american allies. to put president trump's initial response on tuesday was a very simplistic. he almost stooped to the north korean leaders level, and that also is a problem. let's take with secretary of defense matt i said yesterday t' clearte it up. here was his statement. he said the combined alley militaries, the defense of an offense of capabilities on eart. that sounds presidential. president trump did not sound presidential when he said, i will send fire balls and theory add north korea. rebecca, sounding presidential here means you put on a boring expression and say bloodless things like, all options remain on the table. that has got us to where we are after 24 years. >> that's exactly right. that is theem tape that president obama took an incidence work. what president trump is trying to do is change the calculus of kim jong-un. he's trying to make sure that he understands if kim jong un believests that he can threaten the united states of a nuclear ballistic missile that it will

not be worth the cost and he's trying to make that threat credible. i think you better believe him. the reason the american people are feeling uncomfortable is because they know that president trump might do it. that is the point by t the whole point is to deter war and in order to do that, you need to make sure that the enemy understands you mean it, you are serious, you will back up the threats. >> mark: david, isn't that a fair point? we've been as predictable in the sense that the court unit is predictive bet. you know he can't do anything and he won't do anything. we have susan rice saying basically now we need to just get used to north korea being a nuclear power. isn't that an incredible thing for the so-called national security advisor of the united states during the obama years to say now that she's out of office? >> i don't agree with that statement by susan rice. but also it was not the policy of president obama. if you look at the policy of president clinton, a democrat, president bush, republican,

president obama, a democrat, now, president trump, they are not all that different, they are pretty much the same. it's a mix of military options and using diplomacy. that is appropriate. it's appropriate now given that north korea is getting closer to up and icing its nuclear weapons,di that we need to have stronger language. we need to do it in an appropriate way and be creative about it. weab need -- >> mark: we don't need stronger language. we need to stop basket case psycho states nuclear rising. north korea has shared its nuclear technology with iran. iran has said it wants to share its nuclear technology with sudan. know where you go below sudan but when sudan becomes nuclear, i guess they will be sharing it with somalia, and somalis with machetes will instead be somalis with nukes. where is this going to go, rebecca? >> susan rice's op-ed in "the new york times," she said that wess can deal with a nucler north korea. he certainly explains why the

obama policy was to look the other way. remember, 2013, open hearing in the armed services committee, it was revealed to the pentagon understood that north korea understood that they have an nuclear waste manager weapon they can put on a missile. what of the obama administration do? they look the other way, downplayed the intelligence, acted like it wasn't as serious as it was. we have punted on this. we can't allow kim jong-un to essentially have a nuclear gone to theto head of the american people. president trump isn't going to allow it. he will improve our net missile defense systems, by the way, president obama cut them by almost a billion dollars. we are behind. the system can protect the 50 states but it's not sufficient. we need to get better. we got to put the squeeze on kim jong un. remember, we are notqu protectig as nuclear icbm. we need to roll it back. >> mark: speaking of prevention, do you think if he decides to go along with ice

radio city -- around sovereign u.s. territory and guam that we let him do it? >> we can't let him do anything. we cannot let him have nuclear weapons. >> mark: what do we do? >> what we have to do is push back with military options, make it clear that we will use our military and u.s. military strikes, and we might even use offense of strikesen and certaiy using the events of strikes. at the same time, we have to ratchet up sanctions, which we are doing, and i give president trump credit, and nikki haley for taking the lead in the u.n. and passing sanctions. that is the same thing president obama did. he passed a sanctions in november against north korea, too. it's not political. mainstream democrats and republicans agree on the response. it is to be forceful, use it if we have to come up i tried to pressure north korea using china and russia and our allies to come to the table and have a diplomatic resolution. that is the only way to do this. >> mark: okay, rebecca, david

seems to be saying that both parties have been useless on this. his trump any different? >> i think both parties have failed. withha barack obama that puntedt would north korea was ons the brink of having a credible nuclear icbm. susan rice's op-ed in "the new york times" proves that strategic patience was to allow kim jong un to get the capability. i do think that president trump is doing something different. he is saying, i am serious, this is credible, i am prepared to make sure that if given a choice of war on the korean peninsula or allowing the american people to be p hostage to a nuclear ic, i ame the former. that is to deter kim jong-un from doing something he will regret. >> mark: we'll have to leave it there. the fire and fury of cable news panels. rebecca and david, thank you very much. saga of benghazi is not over.

five years on, the state department is still draggingta its feet on releasing emails related to the murder of four u.s. citizens on that dark night. today, u.s. district court judge on much mentor and obama appointee ruled that the state department hasn't looked hard enough to benghazi related emails sent to or from hillary clinton. he ordered a new wider search. ramona cocta is a senior attorney a judicial watch and they sued the state department for the emails. ramona joins us now. it is five years on from september, 2012, why is this taking so long, ramona? >> it is taking so long because the state department is refusing to meet its obligations under the freedom of information act. we filed this case over two years ago. we ask for all of secretary clinton's emails related to benghazi. to the attacks in benghazi.

by the state bar department did search the records that were returned by a secretary clinton and the senior officials, they refused to search the most obvious place, the state department's own server. it they patently refused to do so. it's position in court was that it would be fruitless to search the state department email account of her senior advisors, her most trusted senior aides while she was secretary of state. >> mark: why is the state department -- hillary has been out of the state department now for four years, four and half years. why is there still institutional support for obstructing freedom of information on her behalf? in other words, why is the obama -- the trump state department protecting hillary clinton? i don't know why the current state department is protecting hillary clinton. but we knoww that this has beena drip, drip, drip sort of saga

because the process by which the record-keeping system was maintained during her tenure at the state department avoided it. she maintained a private server. >> mark: in effect, then, there is no agreed totality ofre what it is you are looking for? you might get a bunch of emails this time but it doesn't mean there is a whole bunch, because basically, sheca forwarded themo the united states government. >> that's exactly right. those emails were hand selected by her attorney and the emails thatls were returned by her senr aides were also hand selected b their attorneys. as the judge pointed out, there is no assurances that the state department has made or even can make at this point that those records that were returned by secretary clinton in her senior aides contain a complete set of her emails.

it's just -- imagine you are spreading your set of documents amongst ten file cabinets. you can just search three. you have to search all ten. >> mark: right. that is basically what we mean by thehe record of hillary clinn at the state department, is there ise some things for which there are three photocopies and there are some things for which there is two photocopies, and there's a whole bunch of stuff forrf which there are no photocopies. that is basically how it is worked out there out they. >> right. now the state department has to go back and do what it was supposed to do two years ago t d search for state.gov email accounts for senior aides. >> mark: what do you think we are likely to w find in these benghazi emails? yous? have asked for things relating to how susan rice wound up giving all of that mumbo-jumbo on the sunday shows about why ito was all the fault of some video that none of those guys had ever seen. right. that is actually a different case. this case would include those

emails. but this actually is a little broader. it asks for all of her emails relating to the attacks. they have until september 22nd to provide the court with an update. >> mark: okay. thanks for that, ramona. if you look at the film about the benghazi incident, what is fascinating about that is that there were people in town involved an attack who seem to be very well informed as to the ambassador's whereabouts that night. it would be interesting to know whether the leaky nest of hillary's private server had anything to do with that. ramona, thanks very much, and good luck, and i'm glad you were able to find an obliging judge today. sharks, jellyfish, and repellents aren't the only thing you have to fear at the beach. now, beachgoers in spain have to worry about migrants washing ashore, too. up next, we'll ask why europe's leaders won't treat migrants

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instead of german soldiers. and they quickly had for the hills before any police can arrive to detain them. this dinghyhe represents a tiny almost 10,000 migrants who have entered to spain this year to claim asylum. do you think those people are going to be sent back home anytime soon? don't bet on it. douglas murray is the author of "the strange death of europe" ," which tucker recommended a few weeks ago and i can recommend, too played a terrific and profound book. douglas joins us now. douglas, this is really some kind of symbolic metaphor for europe, isn't it? people lying under beach and the people who will kill you your civilization wash up on it. >> exactly. it's an amazing picture of where we are in europe p now. it's just one beach in spain but ten times the number of people have come into spain this year, have arrived in a chili little

international -- for the people who rule us here in europe, angela merkel, european commission, pretty much the entire political class, would have us believe that those people you just saw landing on fact beach in spain are all phd a candidates and electricians and engineers and doctors, just racing into europe to try to give their all. and some of us don't think that is the case. >> mark: you have actually been to some of these other refugee centers, points of entry as it were in the greek islands and so forth. from the look of that beach, it doesn't look as if there's a lot of scrutiny, as if europe's authorities are there to process those people. you pick your way among the bikinis and you're in europe to stay. >> yeah. for the people on the beach, it's a bit of a bummer. a bit of a distraction during

the day, they are tryingg to wok on their tan. maybe it is just another boat and then another one after that andd another one after that. there is always someone else's problem. at the very best, these people are going to work their way up north, they will work for criminal gangs, all run by people from their countries of origin. it's a horrible, hellish story from here on in. everybody in europe seems to think they can keep passing this box. eventually, someone has to pay for this. i think our entire society ends up paying for this. >> mark: now, we are told that these people are fleeing civil war in syria or failed states like libya. i spent a couple of days in a german refugee house with some very agreeable pot smoking gambian's who were pretending to the german authorities that they wereg syrians. you know as well as i do, there

is few similarities between west africanset and arabs from syria. but everyone agreed to pretend that these gambians were syrian. these people aren't fleeing civil war. previous ones that washed away in spain are economic migrants. >> they are fleeing their brutal civil war and morocco. if you are a european commissioner, that is the law you have to push on this one. basically, these are sub-saharan africans moving into europe for au better life. i mean, sure.e. no doubt about it. even a life working for a gang in spain is better than life it in all ofan sub-saharan africa. the question that your pass is how many of these boatloads do we take on before we, ourselves, capsize? this is the question i cannot get. they just want to keep ignoring it, thinking it is just another boat, another beach. >> mark: in your book, you devote quite some time to a

famous french novel called "the camp of the saints." not a spanish beach. it's a french beach. on this french beach, a ship full of the world's refugees comes ashore and basically collapses the french state. you wroteap this novel -- he wre this novel in 1971, '72. are we actually seeing this scenario playing out, simply incrementally with smaller boats, week by week? >> that's right. that novel, "the camp of the saints," is a horrible, apocalyptic novel. it depicted a million people arriving. more than a million people arrived in 2015 alone. yes, it's a horrible, apocalyptic novel turned out to have understated the size ofer e apocalypse. yes, this is just a drip, drip. as i say, every day, thousands of people make their way here. by the way, they are not just

landing on the beaches in italy. they are picked up by ngos working with, in some cases, the criminal smuggling gangs, and they do the second part of the work for them, they bring them into europe. this is, in my mind, insanity on a continent wide scale. >> mark: you're absolutely right about that, douglas. thanks very much. if you think it's bad coming on the dinghy, as douglas has come the ngos will actually meet some of these boats 200 yards off the libyan coast and fear you to europe and some comfort. a sanctioned student group at the university of minnesota has a very important rule. no white people allowed. up next, we'll talk to a minneapolis journalist who says raciallyou segregated groups ara grand idea. that is next on "tucker carlson tonight" ." ♪

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>> mark: yes, it's time for campus craziness. the university of minnesota has a student group with one rule. no white people period. on its website, the group, tongo itself as a safe space targeted exclusively ata lgbtq ia and or same gender loving people of color. foreo those of you who speak english instead of progressive, that means the group is for

nonwhite,, and transgender people, and no one else. since the story broke, the group has updated its web page to remove its warning that whites should stay away. mike mullen wrote about it for "city pages." his take is that white people should shut up and stop whining. thanks for coming on, mike. you basically think of this as the alt-right white making a fuss about nothing. >> right. i would say that this doesn't bother me. i'm surprised that it bothers them. if you saw the original message on the website, it said to allies of this group, they would ask that you please give them privacy to have their meeting alone. i don't think that the people on campus or form are the people that have acted like they are outraged at this are actually the allies they were referring to. >> mark: you describe the

fellow campus reform who brought this up, mitchell gunter, you said that he is a notably white man from south carolina. what do you mean by a notably white man? >> i meant a joke. >> mark: what is a joke there? i mean, you seem notably white to me? is that a joke? you're a notably white man from minnesota. >>ha right. i'm not outraged that amount allowed to go to a group for black and clear, gay people. it doesn't hurt me. >> mark: just to go on with his compartmentalization. this is for lgbtq ia people of color and lgbtq ia indigenous people. i always lose it after the q. what to the letter i in the letter a stand therefore? >> honestly, i'm not sure. i assume is indigenous and something. i am not sure.kn >> mark: wrong. it is intersex and asexual.

i just want to ask you here, why do you think an antigen is in common with an african-american asexual than with a white trans woman? that is what this group is saying. >> no, they are saying, if those people think they have more in common and want too get in a rom with each other and have a r conversation about, i guess the razor sexuality, they would be allowed to do it. >> mark: no, they have actually formed -- he couldn't for example form a group for a notably white people, such as yourself and the fellow from south carolina, mitchell gunter, group for notably white people who are notably heterosexual. but you can have a group that says a white trans woman is excluded from this group but an african-american asexual can be a member of the group. are you happy with this? this is like mad libs, where you

just toss the identity group confetti in the air and it all comes down and you piece it together any which way, except that if i you are -- belong to certain core identities, you are excluded. you think this makes any sense for trans people or asexual people or intersex people? speak of what i would point out is that whenever there is outrage about these kind of groups or they're suppose it's aggravation or discrimination, it's never actually coming from that trans white woman. shewh understands why they would want to be alone. it's comingth from people like you, i guess, they are asking to leave them alone. >> mark: and the criticism of people like me,ri who are notaby white, is coming from other notably white people like you. don't you think that is what is weird, too? there is like agonized notably white progressive liberals like you getting upset about notably white -- by the way, why do you call campus reform alt-right white? what is happening? what does that mean? >> it means that if you look at

their coverage, mostly what they do is they look for things like this where they can act outraged about the fact that it's actually white straight people, usually men, who are truly being discriminated against, which is -- >> mark: no, we are talking -- no, no, we're talking here about why white transgender women can go all right intersex women can't -- or men, or both, can't go to thisbo group. >> do you have a lot of them contacting you saying they are outraged? >> mark: i am not actually persuaded that intersex, indigenous people are a measurable demographic. i'm asking you, as a notably white person yourself, don't you think this multiplicity of identity group vulcanization, splitting into ever more micro, and in fact barely detectable groups, isn't quite absurd? >> no, i don't think is absurd.

you are right. this is a very small group. as far as i can tell, there may be ten people in it. the fact that it exists doesn't bother me and i didn't know it existed until a couple of weeks ago and people who had never heard of it before also became outraged. did its existence has not done anything to you or them. >> mark: what do you think of martin luther king, who thought of oneid day we could be judgedn the content of our character rather than my color our skin? now we have ended up with the color of your skin apparently trumps whether you are a transgender person or a lesbian because the color of lesbian you are is more importance. >> i think martin luther king is great and i assume if you tried toum go with one of these meetis they would let him in. >> mark: i don't think so. unless he's an african-american it asexual. again, we don't know that. thank you very much. that is the notably white mike

mullen. thanks for coming on their show, mike, speakingte to us or minnesota. we'll let you know. speaking of safe spaces for gay people, the city of london has an exciting new job, gayness inspector. that is quite a demanding job. thanks to a rising real estate prices and the growing populariy of dating apps, london has lost more than half its gayng bars in the last decade and that in the eyes of the mayor is a crisis that must be remedied. so the city has announced that a certain commercial c development will only be approved if the final plan includes a new gay bar.r. i hope they put it next to the mayor's favorite i mosque. just to add to the vibrancy of diversity. to make sure this isn't just a normal bar, the mayor's office will, according to the "guardian," send and expect her toil make sure it isn't gay enough. don't you hate when you go to a

gay bar and did it is not really flamboyantly gay? anyway, what what is gay enougr mayor khan? we are scared to ask. after thee break, tucker will be back for a chat with mike rowe. plus, a scandal star who went on a deranged twitter rant against trump voters. we'll add his starch of the hollywood walk of shame. also come on "tucker carlson tonight" ." ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru outback models.

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teenagers across america are excited. i sent this is bad. i can't articulate why. what do you think? >> let's's see. as i understand ancient history, i think we started with hieroglyphics. >> tucker: cuneiform. >> it appears as though we may have gone full circle. [laughter] i don't know how much righteous indignation we can whip up over the emojis. ii am troubled by their quantit. there are hundreds of these things. they seem to have assumed every possible expression, every nuance of feeling seems to now be accessible in this endless pile of emojis. i didn't know, a, there was that many emotions in the human condition. but now, we had to choose which ones to express ourselves and to whom and when. i'm not sure. >> tucker: it does seem like they are bypassing language. you know what i mean? more words than any other language ever have. why are people not choosing to

use it? >> i think, again, just a theory, i think this general assault on conventional norms of work, which we have talked about ad nauseam before, has kind of blood over into an assault on the lexicon. spew to like velcro shoes? >> a little better. it is nothing to get angry about but it is unnerving. it's disconcerting to look down and see velcro when you expect places. i don't know if it's a harbinger of the end of days but it is troubling because you havein to ask, regarding emojis, what is next? just groans? interpretive dance? >> tucker: [laughs] >> people are now communicating with text that say ur gr8. it's like the language and mnemonics, we are all hooked on phonics again with the little emoji things combined.

i don't know what is happening. if you want mee to make a serios point, what about this? what if this slow degradation about the language is actually a component of the demise of soft skills? >> tucker: what are soft skills? >> those things that allow a you not to take a phone call during a job interview, to maybe pull your pants up, tuck your shirt in, show up on time, that basic things that many employers bemoaned today that seem to be conspicuously lacking in much of what you call the employable people looking for jobs. they are not using theirbs words to a degree that is making people excited about hiring them.g and that ultimately is by the emojis got to go with a velcro shoes. >> tucker: how big a part of employment is that? >> look. the people i talk with, who are trying to close this skills gap in their own part of the world, they say it is the most critical. the most critical thing that

nobody talks about is passing a drug test. that's half. more than half gone. butut the thing that we often tk about with the skills t gap is e lack of skill, obviously. but then, we discussed the lack of will that really feels that. but it is also the lack of soft skills. we just don't know how to interview, people d don't know what to say, they don't know -- it's basic, but the erosion of that, which is basic, has to be germane to whatever it is we think we are talking about. >> tucker: if you can give job -- i know you do this -- but if you can give job advice for someone seeking a job at the lower end, just starting out, whatat kinds of counsel would yu give? >> i would say, if you can, put yourself in the chair of the person considering hiring you and say to them exactly what you would want to hear if you wear them. high matt, it is great to be here.

here's the deal. i will be early every day. i will stay late every day. i will ask you what i can do every day to make your life simpler if there is a difficult task, i will volunteer to do it. i will do so cheerfully. in two years from now, i will be sitting where you are. >> tucker: [laughs] >> if somebody said that to me -- >> tucker: are you kidding? >> i am not checking your references, i will see see you tomorrow. >> tucker: that is great. you are hired. >> i give them a smiley face. >> tucker: mike rowe, thank you. >> sure. >> mark: mike rowe on people who don't know how to interview and don't know what to say. i think that is tucker's coded vacation message to his guest host. coming up, someone called actress ashley judd a sweetheart. so she delivered a lengthy creed on facebook. >> when i was getting my things out, he said, hey, nice dress.

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♪ >> mark: it's time for the hollywood walk of shame, or re-showcase the most appallingf behavior of america's decadent celebrity class. when we were children, we were taught at was nice to complement people, but no more. actress ashley judd complaint for almost two and a half minutes on facebook after an airport worker called her a sweethearthe. >> i was coming through security and acu guy said, hey, sweethea, and i said, i am not your sweetheart, i am your client.

i was already setting boundaries. then, when i i was setting my things out, he said, hey, nice dress. guess what happened next? he touched me. i didn't see him touch anybody else. and i turneded around and i sai, that was unnecessary. by the time, my skin is burning, my feet is burning, it is so to continue to set these boundaries. for good measure, he just had one more time, "have a good day, sweetheart." this is the kind of thing that happens, i categorize it as everyday sexism. >> mark: she is a sweetheart. north korea said earlier today, we will work mercilessly wipe out provocateurs. that is what ashley judd seems determined to do to airport workers. dana loesch joins us. dana, there's a p lot to worry about in the world every day. but this everyday sexism is the crisis afflicting us according to actually judge.

-- ashley jada. it's because we have everyday lunacy, mark. it is so good to see you. that is about a minute and 30 seconds longer than most attention spans for people who watch streaming videos online. there is nothing wrong, someonea paid her a compliment? can you imagine if someone paid her an insult. that would've been something to live stream about. >> mark: i don't know what we are meant to do. if you can't say, have you changed your hair? that is a nice hairstyle? if you can't say that is a lovely effort you are wearing today, the normal social ebb and flow becomes --ia there's actually, there is no courtship rituals, there is no social rituals, there is no possibility of human interaction ultimately. >> i feel as though chivalry is under attack by third wave feminism. if a man opens his door anymore for a woman, he has lectured about it online. if he simply complements a woman, he is lectured about it.

they go out and they look up everything they can about these individuals, which come i'm surprised it hasn't been done for thisd particular airport employee. the media hasn't dug everything up about him and i tried to ruin their lives over it. there is no sexism here. >> mark: this is ashley jordan, his last appearance in public was when she did that poem "i'm a nasty woman," the day after the inauguration. why isn't that a more unpleasant than saying, "hey, nice dress, sweetheart"? >> i found that cringeworthy. as a woman, i found that everyday lunacy. it was ridiculous, or behavior. if she thinks she has a heart, maybe she can ask women in saudi arabia who aren't allowed to drive a roman and other middle eastern countries who don't have representation in a court of law because they are female. >> mark: that's a whole other -- you say, nice burqa and think i will be taking the seminar to you -- scimitar to you. ashley judd is bad.

but josh molina is known for his role in abc's "scandal," and he spent the last several days in a never ending twitter battle with trump supporters. we can't actually show you much of what he said because it is mostly blank of all, but here is aa tamer sample. in addition to stupid, they are homophobic, anti-semitic, misogynistic, trans phobic, and unfunny. dana, do you get a full set there? a full arsenal. >> i know. i'm trying to think of anything else that he failed to check off. things like that, this sort of behavior, this is the reason why trump is president. this is the reason why you had to so many disaffected democrats who were tired of voting for a party that never delivered and they decided to cross the line d vote for someone who might be able to get something done for them. for this, however they were awarded? they had their characters impugned.

they had their motives maligned. it is shameful that this vulgarity is considered a substitute for weight at all whatsoever. if this behavior keeps up, it is only going to continue to make more victories in 2018 and 2020. >> mark: you make a very good point there, wit. he is an actor in a creative person. he has labeled half the population of the united states as members of a quintet of hate groups. particularly, the unfunny part. trans phobic. i think he left out islamophobic. how cani o it be that this man believes that half of his fellow americans are bigots? is that really the extent of the left's understanding of the trump of victory? >> apparently it is. apparently, he is completely unfamiliar with these individuals. he is referring to average, everyday men and women, young and old as bigots simply because he doesn't like the individual

for whom they voted. i think that's an unfair assessment of half of america and rarely, if we are going to have a discussion of what is bigoted, i would say that his stereotyping and remarks, they constitute and affect definition of bigotry. >> mark: dana before we go come i want to get your reaction to this. a minute ago, congress among cac, kathleen rice we did this "i amm just going to say it, and ra and are quickly becoming domestic security threats under president trump. we can't ignore that." a member of congress have has just called you a domestic security threats. your response? >> i think that is awful, to think that advocating for rights and holding media accountable as people have the right to do -- >> mark: we have to go. i just wanted to get a reaction. we'll be back. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up

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