"hannity." be sure to check out my show, "justice and judge jeanine pirr jeanine pirro." thanks for joining us. shawn is going to be back on monday. have a great weekend. ♪ >> mark: good evening, and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. i'm mark steyn for one more evening before the great man returns from vacation on monday. tensions with the nuclear dictatorship t of north korea remain high as president trump continues to warn jong-un's regime that any aggressive act will be met with overwhelming force. >> president trump: this man will not get away with what he's doing, believe me. if he utters one threat in the form of an overt threat, which by the way he has been uttering for years and his family has

been uttering for years, or if he does anything with respect to guam or any place else that's an american territory or an american ally, he will truly regret it.r and he will regret it fast. >> mark: earlier today the president tweeteda that military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded, should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. trump then retweeted the u.s. pacific command which said u.s. air force b-1 lancer bombers on guam stand ready to fulfill usfk's fight tonight mission if called upon to do so. north korean state media has dismissed the u.s. as, quote, no more than a lump we can beat to a jelly any time. harry is director of defense studies at the center for

nationalal interest. jim hansen is president of the security studies group. they both join us. harry, most of us accept that north korea would have quite a job beating the united states towns a lump of jelly. let's consider it the other wayi around. if we want to de-nuke north korea, is that doable? >> is it doable, absolutely. the challenge is to do that you run the risk of potentially killing c millions of people. for example, let's say the president decided to weigh his military options and launch a strike. d in order to do that, he would have to amass a large amount of fire pow near the asia pacific. which we do have there already. if he did that, he would have tr fire off tons of tomorrow hawk missiles, bring b-2 bombers to, bear and get nuclear weapons.rs the dia report said they might have as many as 60 nuclear weapons. the challenge, mark, if he misses one nuclear weapon, i

guarantee kim jong-un has every reasonon to launch one of those weaponsse at seoul, tokyo, or los angeles. i hope it does not come to that. but i think we have to think about these things and weigh them in the order of history. >> mark: i'm not persuaded if you wanted to hit tokyo or los angeles he could do it, jim. but he could reliably hit the seoul metropolitan area with about 25 million people in it. >> that was my area of operation when i served in special forces. we studied everything about the north korean regime.or we have pretty good idea what he can and can't do. there is a tendency of people to overestimate the ability of the north koreans to reek asty much havoc as they think they can. most of their equipment is outdated, poorly maintained, ammo is old, they don't have a lot of fuel. not to say they can't cause a lot of damage. but if trump decides to fight them, we will kill them and take them out. there's a danger that a lot ofth people could be in jeopardy. but kim should never for a

second believe that he will survive that situation. >> mark: jim, you are special forces. we've been talking about fairly large scale operations here. is there any kind of a more pinpointed my crow strike, anya a micro strike, a covert operation that could fix the situation? >> that would be wonderful but i don't think it's feasible. as harry said, his stuff is spread out, all over the place. we couldn't be sure to hit all of it. unless we go with a massive strike to take down everything. thee best case scenario, president trump to convince kim jong-un he will take him out if he doesn't denuclearize. that's the last thing we want to happen. the best way to make sure is kim to believe that he will be buried under tons of smoldering rubble if he does not stop his current actions. >> mark: but that's the point, isn't it, harry?

just to reiterate what jim said. there are no micro measures. it's big smoldering rubble, it's korean war 2 or nothing. or diplomatic solution. or containment. where do you come down on that scenario? on those questions? >> mark, i think the thing is, what i would argue, where the president is going to go, he's going to have a call with presidentt xi. that's going to be an extremely tough conversation with the chineses president. i think what president trump needs to do is get on the phone with president xi and say, look, there'snd been eight united nations security council resolutions. you haven't enforced one of those. you need to enforce those resolutions because if they don't, where this goes next is north koreans have the resource to develop a hydrogen bomb or a three stage icbm that can hit the entirewo united states. if we were to aggressively contain the north koreans, it's not a solution but there's no sever bullet.

>> we can't actually unwind the clock here, jim. we have to accept that to one degree or another, north korea is the newest member of the nuclear club. >> i don't think we have to. president trump has made itve clear his policy is that they have to denuclearize. he has one advantage in trying to make it happen. he has a provenn track record of taking action. assad in syria saw what happened. there's over 100 isis fighters in afghanistan who got returned to their component molecules by0 the mother of all bombs. so kim should never for a second doubt the president's resolve in sayingn "get rid of your nukes r we will take you out." >> mark: when you look at the domestic reaction here, harry, if there were to be something like the mother of all bombs, that kind of strike onon north korea -- and he were to respond, even if he responds entirely ineptly, he can kill thousands of south korean civilians.

will donald trump get the blame of the world for that? t >> no.or i mean if the north koreans retaliated i and killed scores f people, i don't see how trump could be blamed for that. we have to keep in mind here, this is not the president's problem in terms of how this whole crisis unwound. theac obama administration was supposed to have pivoted to the asia pacific. but they cut right sores of the u.s. military. our own aircraft carriers can barely maintain f-18 fighter jets.s. you can't put it at the blame of the t trump administration for what's happening. >> mark: harry, jim, thanks a lot. susan rice spent four years as president obama's national security advisor. and during that time the threat from north korea only grew. now susan rice is criticizing the trump administrationcu for trying a different strategy while warning that a preemptive attack would be a terrible idea. >> what i worry about is this discussion and preparation

potentially for what the administration has called preventive war, or preemptive war. envision the united states potentially attacking north korea in the absence of an imminent or actual threat against the united states. deterrence makes good sense, that's very essential for us to maintain. obviously we don't ever o take f the table the threat of the use ofor force. but preemptive war if one were thinking of executing that, be catastrophic. >> mark: oh, susan. susan. i nearly walked out of the roomu the great tammy bruce is with us. i've got to say this, tammy. you know, susan rice is and people like her -- the reason we are at this point. for 24 years, the susan rices of the world have told us there's nothing to worry about.

nothing to worry about. nothing to worry about. now suddenly she says, oh, it's a nuclear north korea we have to live with it, get over it. >> like the arsonist telling you not to put out the fire, it would be too dangerous. everybody knows susan rice everybody has a history of really being a pawn, if you will, of saying things that are not true about international affairs. aboutte benghazi. why president trump is the president. we get it, it's astoundingng thy still are present, speaking as, though they've been dropped in from mars and had nothing to do with the last eight years. and i think, though, that the president is focused in this regard. i understand everybody has opinions about the nature of what is occurring here. i can tell you this, probably what had a big impact, we know it did president trump, otto warmbier. we talk about kim jong un, if he's reasonable, can we live with a nuclear north korea, the answer is no.

if you remember the nature of what they did to that young man, sent him back almost as a slap in the face after they killed his brain, these are crazy, maniacal, genocidal individuals who exist in an interesting way in a sort of religious dynamic. as the islamists do, with one family being, of course, worshiped in a religious way. and i think there's a recognition to that when it comes to issues of death, and resurrection, and all of that. >> mark: yeah, auto auto warme beer -- to remind people, a u.s. citizen basically question to death by that regime. as you say, shipped back -- >> he was like getting a souvenir. took a banner. they tortured him to death. >> you brought up susan rice's record on benghazi. isn't the choice for the basket do you wante world, to be kim jong un or colonel

qaddafi? he did with the west told him to do. he died very violently in a ditch in the bloodiest way, chased out of his presidential palace, with his regime collapsed. if you do what kim jong un does, they can't give you the qaddafi treatment. >> we have the president -- and when it came to qaddafi, there wasas a nuclear program and all kinds of things we didn't know. we're all being lied to.o. the u.n. has been ineffectual. we're it. we are the premiere power. this is about not just saving ourselves, but there are 200,000 north koreans in concentration camps in north korea. this is a human rights issue. we do have the president, where he we can get someone -- where you can get rid of the weapons ofen mass destruction. even if it was, this nation does

unprecedented things all the time. and convince lunatics to give up. china is helpful now. china has said, if north korea strikes first you are on your own. that is a gift. and i think that shows that they understand that donald trump isk serious, that the american people understand what is at stake here, despite the rhetoric we're hearing, awful rhetoric, not supporting the president, casting him as shockingly as the aggressor. no one around the world believes that. >> mark: i want to bring up something else you said recently, tammy, you recently wrote an article on, quote, the smug bigotry of trump haters where you highlight the quote "thinly veiled contempt of those unlike societies only benefactors." the poster boys of this behavior, is jim acosta and his cluelessness debating steven miller on immigration last week. >> are we just going to bring in

people from great britain and australia? >> i am shocked at your statement that you think only peep from great britain and australia would know english. it shows your cosmopolitan bias. >> you are trying to engineer the racial and ethnic flow of people into this country. >> that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, foolish things you have said. for you, that's still -- the notion that you think that this is a racist bill is so wrong and so insulting. >> mark: if you are kim jong un, threatening to turn the united states into a lump of jelly, jim acosta after stephen miller. >> perfect example of the speech writer for president reagan's phrase of the soft bigotry of lowar expectations. there are 54 countries that have english as their primary language. this is a dynamic, like acosta. even if you don't speak english ifif you're disadvantaged or por that you're just too dumb to be able to handle any kind of rexpectations.

that is outrageous, what the left has always expected. we see it also of course in the universities here, we saw of course a lot of bigotry coming out about west virginia, after the trump rally on twitter. west virginia, people don't speak english, you know, can't make a living. the fact of the matter is, this is that, from the high tower, looking down on people, just think can't handle it. they didn't go to ivy league schools, or maybe they don't have a college degree. but considering the condition of washington, i think that maybe it's the college degree is the problem these days. >> mark: what's fascinating to me, they got the election wrong last year. you think might occasion a certain modesty in this group of people. instead they're going around likest the slightly idiotic thid son of a middle european grand duke who doesn't get why thedi snarling peasants outside the

castle gates are in a bad mood. >> the ultimate self protection and disconnection. they really, truly believe thatd americans are just hamsters that need to be kept in the wheel. there's no way that the hamster has figured out how to get out of the cage. that would be too shocking.e this is also why the country is here after eight years. the americans, how much i love us, despite all of this for so long, we have decided the country is worth saving. that, you know, we don't like them because of what they think of us. but, really, wee think mostly of the country, no, it's not about partisan fights. we're fighting for the future and the country. that's why we'll win. >> mark: the hamster is off theun wheel and he's mad as hel. >> out of the cage. >> thanks, tammy. in the middle of the show last night, congress woman kathleen rice decided to call dana loesch a domestic security threat. dana joins us live to respond. with the north korean nuclear

threat looming over east asia, the media focused on president trump's rhetoric. joe concha joins us to break down their collective myopia. ahead.that, straight capital one, my dad called them up and asked for "the jennifer garner card" which is such a dad thing to do. after he gave his name the woman from capital one said "mr. garner, are you related to jennifer?" kind of joking with him. and my dad was so proud to tell her, "as a matter of fact, she is my middle daughter". so now dad has the venture card, he's earning his double miles, and he made a friend at the company. can i say it? go ahead! what's in your wallet? nice job dad.

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we can't ignore that. and we, of course, can't ignore unhinged rhetoric from a member of congress. dana loesch is with us. i broke that news to you a couple minutes before the show ended last night. you were unhappy about it. have you gotten any happier about it in the last 24 hours? >> i'm incredibly shocked, mark. good to be with you, again. you are right, you took me by surprise with. this i was unaware until the moment you said it. s this congressional member who sits, by the way, on the committee for department of homeland security as well as counterterrorism intelligence, she's got a lot of influence. i am not a domestic threat. i mean, for crying out loud, i'm a mom, mark. i go to walmart and i take my kids to chick-fil-a. and i and millions of other men and women across the country

belong to a group of like-minded individuals that support and advocate for the second amendment. that's who we are. we believe in that right. we believe in the rights that our men and women fight for. in uniform. a lot of those men and women are members of the nra. and we also believe with the second amendment we support the first amendment. i love the free press. i believe, mark, in the free people's right to fact check that free press. for this, democratic congressional member kathleen rice thinks we're domestic threats. >> mark: it's not a small thing. you got into a spat with patricia arquette today. it's some thing for hollywood minor celebrity to be lobbing rhetorical bombs at you. but it's not a small thing when a legislator on powerful and influential security and counter intelligence committees, not just a legislator but a former district attorney who has an officer of the court should know

better, any fact labels you an enemy of the state. why is she doubling down and insisting she has the right toy label you an enemy of the state? >> that's the million-dollar question, mark. perhaps she's thinking about running for higher office. we have asked her office is she going to send special police to arrest us? what does this mean? am i placed on a no-fly list, because as i discuss often, we don't know the process by which, through which some one is placed on a no fly list. there's no legal recourse to ges off of it. if i maim domestic threat, that's a lot. this is a congresswoman in her area, ms-13 is killing black and hispanic men. she has harsher words for me and for nra members than ms-13. that says something. >> mark: and actually that's a very interesting point, dana. great question in a way since

9/11, who do these people consider domestic threats. if you take for example the taliban supporting dad of the guy who shot up that gay nightclub in orlando, the taliban supporting dad during the election campaign wasli photographed standing right e behind hillary clinton. so they don't consider taliban supporters enemies of the state. you, in that sense, occupy af unique category in the fevered nightmares of the democratic party. >> well, apparently i didn't call for. i didn't burn down my college campus. i haven't destroyed any private property in protesting the inauguration of presidentca tru. all of that is okay. p whenen you promise to fact check the media in the united states of america, a sitting democratic congressional member -- d will actually label you a domestic threat. and i just find that, i just never have seen anything like

this. how free are a people if you aren't free to criticize and fact-check? mark, i have only one question for congressman rice -- congresswoman rice -- is she going to come and arrest me? i'm in dallas. if you find me that threatening, come and arrest me. >> mark: that's it, come and get her, congresswoman rice. put your money where your mouth is or do the decent thing and recognize that a legislator should not be labeling free speech. >> she needs to resign. >> thank you, dana.ng guam, hawaii, maybe the west coast are being imperilled by north korean weapons. but the media's greatest focus is on the specifics of president trump's rhetoric. joe concha will be here to explaine why. that's next on "tucker carlson n tonight." statins lower cholesterol,

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>> it's easy to ridicule north >> mark: it's easy to ridicule north korea for its backwards economy and its ridiculous leader. thanks to the power of nuclear figures the country is also af real threat. addressing that threat is a real policy concern. don't tell the media which spenn the better part of a week obsessed with the minutiae of president trump's rhetoric. >> two borderline irrational leaders, kim jong un and president trump. >> donald trump has no idea what he's doing. don't pretend he does. as far as i'm concerned he's

playing "battleship" in between golf games. >> let me ask you about the character of a president who would threaten fire andd fury, without having enough respect for his his military department. >> president trump sounds more like a north korean leader than an american leader. >> mark: trump dismissed the critics who called his threats reckless. >> my critics are only saying that because it's me. if someone else uttered the exact same words i uttered, they would say what a great statement, a wonderful statement. they're only doing it, but i tell you, we have tens of millions of people in this country that are so happy with what i'm saying. because they're saying finally we have a president that is sticking up for our nation. frankly, sticking up for ourng friends and our allies. >> mark: joe concha covers media for "the hill." joe, there is something slightly deranged about this. wede have a specific threat to

attack u.s. sovereign territory. and everybody is saying oh, trump is out of control. he's gone too far. >> you say it's deranged, i say the implication is intentional. if war does break out, we're being led to believe that any b conflict that happens is a result of donald trump taking office on january 20th.ar he's bombastic. suddenly nuclear weapons just appeared in the hands of north korea. he's talking smack and kim jong un is motivated to attack us. what is supposed to be forgottev is the three previous administrations, whether it beti clinton, bush, or obama, all of the measured rhetoric that went along with it. and the failure that happened as a result of north korea getting those nuclear weapons because appeasement and measured talks, that's called omission. donald trump said if anyone else said what i said, you wouldn't seeee the criticism of it. proof of it, secretary of defense mattis said one day

after the fire andre fury comments, it would be the end of kim jong un and the destruction of his people. i don't hear mattis criticized for saying it, essentially the same thing. >> mark: there's two things here. there is the trump-ian element. and there's also historical precedent for people who warn you about the real dangers of dictators while everybody else is just doing the bland diplomatic speak. that was true in the 1930s. churchill got the bad oppressors, during the 1930s. >> no twitter then. >> right.s >> he didn't have that problem. >> mark: does seem to be an element of snobbish condescension that trump faces. >> no question about that, yes. a poll came out today when president trump went below 40%, the apocolypse was upon us. he's up to 45% now, six points

in the past week. whatever he's saying, appears to have a positive effect particularly among his base. they like what they're hearing and they like a president that's tough. we have seen some crazy tweets around this from major publications like the "new york times." the paper of record. i asked your producers to get this tweet together the and i hope america you're sitting down for this. if you're not sitting down, listen to my voice, this is an exact question the "new york times" is asking the question. what is a greater threat to guam? north korea or climate change? i'm thinking when the mushroom cloud goes off, it might get a little hotter at that point. >> mark: yeah, that is some serious climate change. that is one big increase in guam's carbon footprint. >> no question. and then you have thomas freedman, i respect, covering foreign policy forever. but heee made an interesting argument. he says that we should offer up a peace treaty, start engaging in economic trade and give the

north koreans aid. no precedent is offered around that, around president clinton, what he did, came to ane agreementde with the north koreans, gave them $5 billion if they ended their nuclear ambitions. it's amazing. >> mark: no two countries with the mcdonald's ever go to war with each other. a year after he promulgated that, serbia bombed bosnia. this is the latest variation of that. and the danger, after north korea it will be iran, then sudan, after sudan it will be a couple of rinky-dink tribes up on the border. on the afghanistan border. where does it end once you go down that road? >> it doesn't end. the problem when we focus on rhetoric so much we miss the stories that people want to know about. i had to go 25 paragraphs into the story that the north korean missiles have soviet guidance on them. that's pre-1990.

they say they aren't going to hit guam but the water around it? within 1,000 miles? sounds like they don't have accuracy. h that's interesting, should we be reporting that more? >> t mark: that is the interesting thing. he's not sufficiently competent to be a nuclear madman. it's like when your granny decides to be a nuclear madman after she's been on the drink for a while. that's actually a vital point. he isn't good enough to be a nuclear madman. >> interesting point. kim jong un, do you know he importsl $30 million worth of alcohol? >> mark: we have to import everything there. that's, including that knockoff viagra. >> really. >> mark: that's what pays for the nuclear self-described beyonce professor program. looking for a new job after celebrating john mccain's cancer diagnosis and announcing that he wanted president trump assassinated. up next, we will be back tog discussru that.

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as you do. what is going on at monticlair state? >> professors have the right to say outlandish things but we as theiris employers, taxpayers, he the right to hold them accountable. thisis professor said trump deserves a bullet in the head, john mccain deserves to die because of the healthcare vote, he said they're restraining my academics freedom. that isn't a blanket thing that protects from you your employer holding you accountable from your phrases you're saying on social media. these are professors, molding our next generation, should be held to a higher standard of repeating things like the comment section of a huffington post article. >> tucker: it's just dumb. theree are plenty of people that reach conclusions i disagree with but they reach provocative conclusions, interesting. go die? isis that a debate? >> that's what we see, a result of w the discourse pushed by the left. when you label an entire segment of society you disagree with

nazis, fascists, it's socially acceptable to not say violent things.it are we really surprised. this professor being fired, it's not like we are losing some literary scholar. some heavy weight.t. he was there to teach a course on the life of beyonce. i love beyonce as much as the next person but we should be tax taxpayer money to have a course on beyonce. >> tucker: a moron teaching a frivolous subject, now will probably wind up at princeton. trinity college, i went there, couple of months ago professor johnnie eric williams, facebook rant, by somebody else, saying that you should let white people die if you see them in trouble. bottoma hashtag at the saying... let them f'ing die. he t was not fired. imthe school has defended him. the president of the college has described him as a victim of the right wing. what's happened since? >> the school came out and

admitted they have over a quarter of a million dollars of donations pulled from the university. people saying i'm not going to attendin the school. it's market forces at work. a light is being shinedol on the things. parents say i won't send my kid to that campus. missouri, ever since that free speech debacle, they had empty buildings full of empty dorm rooms. because students just aren't attending. >> tucker: what's so interesting in this specific case, you have a professor with tenure, open racist, endorsing violence. these schools are famous for being worried about the school. has trinity college started an investigation to determine what he says in class? if he was going to write this in a public forum online, how did he treat his students? >> absolutely, we have seen multiple students coming forward say this is indicative of the environment in his classroom. students say he's a good professor as long as you keep your mouth shut and go along with what he saysoo that. that's the opposite of what the classroom should be.

>> tucker: has the school conducted an investigation? >> no, they have not investigated. he's on administrative leave. he will be back very soon, be honest, if this person said anything against ahi democratic senator or democratic president they wouldn't have aoc job. >> tucker: if trinity sends me a fund-raising letter, i i will directly call back to the fund-raising office and laugh in the phone before hamming up. cabot, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> mark: speaking of unsafe spaces, it's time for final exam. bill versus shannon. in the clash of the america's newsroom anchors, next. or my prs new grandchild. it's whooping cough.

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one of the great fox news double acts, shannon bream and bill hemmer. they took this so seriously. they took it so seriously, they had a two-hour dress rehearsal this morning. >> it was 11:00 a.m. >> mark: it was a train wreck. >> what? >> mark: let's hope they are more on top of it tonight. >> this is a real final exam. >> mark: this is. this is a real final exam. >> i'm cool as a cucumber. >> this is like a bonding moment for the two of us. >> it's fine. >> the lady always wins. >> no, she doesn't. >> mark: you are going to be debonded. o.this is like the hunger games. >> i like that, too. >> mark: the winner gets a fully paid vacation, two weeks

on the north korean riviera. you will love it. okay, bill and shannon. i'm going to ask the questions, first one to buzz gets to answer, each correct answer is worth one point. but if you get the answer wrong we take away a point. the best of five. let's get started. this week supporters of colin kaepernick announced the protest outside nfl headquarters. they say the quarterback is being blackballed for his political views. and among the rally's promoters is what award-winning movie director? [bell] >> mark: shannon? >> i know i may lose a point, but spike lee comes to mind. >> mark: spike lee is the movie director for shannon, defending colin kaepernick. >> film director spike lee is among those who think the national anthem controversy is the reason he remains a free agent. >> mark: yes. >> how did i know that?

>> mark: well done, well done, shannon. colin kaepernick, so impressed, he's just switched knees. question two, year to date, the amazon.com, "washington post" owner jeff bezos made more money than any other person in the world until this week when bezos was surpassed by which website chief executive? >> oh. i'mm not going to guess. >> mark: come on. [bell] >> you said -- >> mark: bill hemmer says elon musk. from tesla. let's go to the tape. >> facebook's chief has made more money, mark zuckerberg. he's up $23 billion. >> that's paper money.

>> mark: you've lostst a point. north korean's gdp is $12 billion. if mark zuckerberg goes nuclear we're in trouble. question three, which big city mayor has been denying reports that he naps regularly inn his office disrupting the work flow of his colleagues? [bell] >> mark: bill hemmer. >> bill de blasio, new york city. >> mark: let's go to the tape. >> is it true that you taken nap after the gym? >> ridiculous. >> do you take a nap? >> ridiculous. >> maybe you're meditating. >> no, i don't get a chance to meditate. >> mark: stop spreading the news, he u wants to wake up in e city that goes straight back to sleep. bill deblasio, the napping mayor. shannon, one point ahead. >>ne she usually is. >> mark: it's like "the hunger games" here. long-standing double act. a this could break them apart.

which member of the obama administration used the alias elizabeth carlisle to write -- [bell] >> shannon? >> i believe it's the>> former attorney general loretta lynch. mark, thank you. >> the lady always wins, that's okay. >> mark: i'll tell you what, let's have a bonus to decide that question. >> i can allow her to win, i'm okay with that. >> mark: the epa administrator, lisa jackson, also used an alias. remember that one? >> eric holder was lou alcinder. >> that can count for a tie. >> right. >> what was lisa jackson using? >> mark:ks richard windsor. they all sound like jane austen characters. >> sounds good when you say it.

>> mark: who won that point? [laughing] >> mark: this is like the best film fiasco at the oscars. >> an extra credit round? >> mark: final question. junk food fans rejoiced this week when frito lay announced the opening of a new yorkrk restaurant. all dishes feature what popular snack item? >> all of the dishes? >> do we have a hint? it has to be nacho, tortilla. >> mark: popular frito-lay product. >> he doesn't eat junk food. >> mark: it's not twinkies. >> it's not. >> no. >> mark: someone has to answer this. come on. >> i shut it off. >> where are we, though? am i down by one? if i answer wrong we're tied.

>> mark: yes, go >> i'll say fritos. for it, shannon. that's a big thing in the souths >> mark: let's go to the tape. cheeto restaurant opening in new york city between august 15th and 17th. cheetos tacos, cheetos fried pickles, cheetos cheesecake. >> my stomach hurts looking at that.os >> mark: the winner gets to buy the cheetoto cheesecake. that is, yeah, cheeto cheesecake. >> i didn't answer the question. >> mark: you got the question wrong. >> i make that a tie. >> we were, we were. you don't know what's going on in the world. >> mark: you get to split the cheeto cheesecake. nobody gets the trip on the north korean riviera. we will be back. each year sarah climbs 58,007 steps.

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