>> we will see you back here in an hour. >> that was a fast hour already. we will see you then, "outnumbered" begins right now. >> harris: we will begin with a fox news alert, president trump at the white house meeting with attorney general jeff sessions and fbi director chris right. to those leaders were told we are talking about the violence unfolding during the white supremacist protest in charlottesville on saturday. expecting new comments from the president some point today. all of this as a suspect who allegedly ran his car into counter protesters and killed a young woman was arraigned today. 19 others as you know were heard in knots, some critically. this is "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner. sandra smith, kennedy, cohost of "fox and friends" abby huntsman's. and #oneluckyguy, the opinion editor charlie hurt is here. he has outnumbered. happy to have you.

>> charlie: thank you for having me. i >> harris: a lot of news to get to, shall we get to it? >> charlie: yes, indeed. >> harris: james fields made his appearance in court today. charges including second-degree murder after ramming his car into a group of counter protesters. heather heyer was killed, 19 others hurt. to go troopers were killed in a helicopter crash as they were assisting the response to the protest. meanwhile, the assistant justice department has -- matt finn live at the district court house the biggest news. >> right now james fields junior is locked up in a county jail, a short while ago he appeared to be a video. we have make a motion there, she says in the video he seemed to somber and was dressed in striped prison guard, responsive, the judge read out charges including second-degree murder, malicious wounding, and hit-and-run. saying that he could not support

an attorney, but saying that he makes about $650 every other week at a security firm, so it was confirmed that he could not do an attorney. it was considered a conflict in a different attorney was assigned. another hearing scheduled for august 25th, the judge wants fields, the driver to talk with his attorney prior to the judge will reconsider a bond. after the hearing today, there was a small clash between some and saying police did not do enough to stop the riots, , and protesters intentionally came here from out of town to incite violence against the white supremacy groups, but then people shouted back "nazis, go home. our hearts go out to the family, and that the community is deeply deeply's head and pared back to you. >> harris: thank you very much much.

as you mention, president trump is expected to speak out again today on the violence in charlottesville. at this after facing a lot of criticism for the initial response by the lawmakers from both sides of the aisle saying that you should have directly called out parts princess. >> if i was president of united states command these people showed sympathy towards me and my agenda, it would bother me. i would urge the president to dissuade them of the fact that he is sympathetic to their cause. because her because it is hate, it is un-american. they are domestic terrorists, and we need more from the president on the issue. >> from the white house to the statehouse, to all the local offices, we have to call it out for what it is. it is hatred, it is bigotry. and our leaders need to be very frank, unequivocal. we will not tolerate to that in our country. >> sandra: button at the white house clarifying their initial remarks, of course he condemns white supremacist and all other extremist groups. that was echoed by

vice president mike pence in colombia. >> yesterday president trump clearly and unambiguously coding them to the bigotry, violence, and hatred which took place on the streets of charlottesville. we have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo-nazis, or the kkk. these dangerous fringed groups have no place in american public life and in the american debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms. >> sandra: jeff sessions depending trump ahead of their meeting today. >> he explicitly condemns the kind of ideology behind these movements of nazism, the kkk. he totally opposes those kind of values. his statement yesterday i again affirmed that. and i think that you will hear

that again today. >> sandra: first of all, charlie, your expectations of what we may hear from the president today? >> probably more from him about explicitly condemning the groups. the and he should explicitly condemn the groups. i felt like he did. i feel like in these situations, people wind up putting unrealistic expectations on politicians to weigh in in these complicated situations. and i don't know, resolve things? honestly, i don't care what politicians have to say about any of these things. i don't look to politicians to decipher all the stuff. i know that this is disgusting, awful, i think the vast majority of americans look at this and they denounce these people. today hate these people. it is disgusting. aunt camping it all up by making it even more political, i think just makes the situation even

worse. >> sandra: it does feel like the pressure is building to have the president say something more, kennedy, in your view does he need to say something more? >> kennedy: it's easier to get it wired to the first time around. not that difficult, does not matter if it is this administration nor a different administration. when you get it wrong the first time, you give your enemy so much fodder, and that's what the left was waiting for. they are waiting to tie him in any misstep with the latest broad and hateful ideology. and i don't think that the presidents had enough. i don't not think he was explicit. that's why when you hear the words from vice president pence and jeff sessions, they are condemning specifically white supremacists and the kkk, neo-nazis, that's appropriate. the president went after her on the campaign trail president obama and hillary clinton for not using radical islamic terror. you cannot confront something unless you name it. and this is another one of those times where if they got it right

the first time, we would not be talking about the story in this way. >> harris: that is a complicating factor, when politics come in, you can quickly key without example of islamic radicalism. i think also it affords the opportunity for this to continue. people of color out there who look at this and say, wait a minute, the president did not call it the one thing, it's not that he could not get it right the first time, you might do something different today. with or without his words, the actions need to be there. my concern is while we are focused on three words, "on many sides," the three words that they took exception to, we are not focused on finding out who these guys were as a nation, how many we have among us. >> sandra: jeff sessions made it very clear that the justice department is going to look at that. >> harris: absolutely, i want to look at that investigation. >> abby: we lose sight coming into her saying this as well, we lose sight of the big picture when these sorts of things

happen because society is so politicized. right away we are trying to figure out who we should point the finger adds, to president trump site every single word that he needed to stay. you remember, you think that is a black lives matter movement in the protest and the number of lives lost, barack obama struggled to find the exact wording and who to identify as being responsible for those horrific acts. i hope the president mentions these groups specifically. and that will be the first question out of the gate during the press conference, but we have to get back to what matters. those are the innocent lives that were lost, and we all denounce any hate or violence. >> harris: heather heyer's mother put it so well. she is trying to take the higher ground. i would just say something to you, charlie, i'm curious inside the beltway how this plays. in the president does not mention the words, not just us talking about terrorism, but some hurts between people of color in the country, does he not see people of color?

does he address her today? >> charlie: i hope so. >> harris: do you think it is realistic for him to go there? >> charlie: sure, sure. but inside the beltway, everything is politics. i would argue that one of the reasons why people jumped on the president as quickly as they did was because people in both parties do not particularly like him. lindsey graham does not like donald trump. they are looking for reasons to jump on him about stuff. another group of people that i think deserve considerable blame is the media. when the media goes in and gives david duke millions and millions of dollars of free air time on television, who cares what this guy things? he is a dirt bag. to ignore him. he will go away. if the lights are not on, the cameras are not willing, he gets no attention. but they love the divisiveness, they go in there and they tried to -- it is good for ratings, it

helps them. and i think the people -- >> harris: as a journalist, how shall we cover it? >> charlie: ignore people like david duke. no evidence -- i am from that part of virginia, people are not like that. i don't know anybody like that. and obviously, our country has a very hard history. but in day-to-day lives coming into their still problems that need to be addressed, but in day-to-day lives, people have respect for each other. you hold the door for the person behind you at the grocery store. and everything is fine. >> sandra: really interesting in the middle of all of this we heard from a member of president trump's family, his daughter ivanka taking to twitter. she took to twitter immediately and called us out by its name. >> kennedy: of her dad released a similar statement, we

would not be talking about this. and that is what is so frustrating, we should be talking about the issues that you are addressing. >> harris: not the three issues that he did or did not say. >> kennedy: that's a distraction. i want the president to learn from this, because there is a way, you know, presidents cannot solve everything. it is not to like any reaction that he would have would automatically make this better or make this go away. it is shocking to most people that there are mentally ill domestic terrorists in this country who want to take people's lives to prove a political point. >> harris: out all are mentally ill, some are just evil. but i will say this, what do you mention is important. we are getting reports from people outside of the area. we saw this in ferguson, missouri. people like to go and shake it up. we do not know what the situation was, but people outside of your hometown area coming in. >> abby: this is all organized. you live there, eat when i -- >> harris: what is the

significance of that? >> charlie: this is where donald trump gets in trouble. there are instigators on both sides of the fight that was going on in charlottesville, and none of them, obviously some very decent people that were there because they felt inspired to be there. and the fact that one of them wound up getting killed is beyond tragic. but there are instigators on both sides. they do not represent any real portion of america. most people have moved on beyond all of this. >> harris: or some of the people on the ground. >> sandra: can i ask you to address this, because some of the president's critics say that this is the president fearing alienating a portion of his base? can you address that? >> charlie: maybe i'm naive about it, but i cannot imagine that he would be that despicable. that is beyond -- i tend to try to give people the benefit of the doubt. if that is the case, that is the most disgusting thing on earth. i really do not think that that

is what is going on here. i think that he has put to a standard that is absurd. when the not job shot steve's police, the media did not come out and say, you've did not call him a left wing job. >> abby: that's a great point pretty remember that point after the steve's police shooting, there was a moment where we were all saying, let's come together. let's really make the rhetoric better, and that lasted for about 5 minutes. what i think the president was trying to do, sandra in that moment, because we did not have all the facts when he came out and made the statement, we did not know what group, the man that killed innocent woman what he was a part of, i think -- >> harris: we knew who was protesting. >> abby: but not that he was affiliated with neo-nazis and everything at that point. i think what he was trying to do, and i may be wrong, but send the message of unity, we are all americans, this is not what we stand for. should he have called it out for

what it was? i think you should have, but i think that the main goal was trying to bring the country together in a time that's hurt. >> harris: i want to ask you about something, because you and i are focusing on the investigation so much, not that everybody isn't, but we have said that. we know that there is a second-degree murder charge what which would tell us that that is not premeditated, which we are learning about particularly premeditation. now you have the justice department wanting to open up something an investigation that is based on hatred and rice and so-and-so, we are going to go down that road, much harder to prove no matter what group he was in. but focusing in on bumping up the charges to what actually may have happened, again, losing sight willing to go down the race road and toulouse inside of the criminal road. >> kennedy: i think what is interesting, we were all watching the story as it was unfolding. i was looking at the counter protesters and the protesters, these are two groups, like

something out of a horrific, perverted version of "the outsiders" or "west side story." they know that they are going to meet and to be there. and having the man who rammed into a crowd of people at high speed, obviously trying to cause as much damage and harm and death as he code, the shooter at the congressional softball practice. >> sandra: if you could set up what is happening behind those walls inside those walls in the white house right now as we are expecting the president could make a statement at any point today. what is the discussion that is being had? how are they getting organized to come out and respond to this? >> charlie: i think clearly they realize that they have made a lot of people upset on both sides of the aisle with this. they want it to go away. >> harris: forget about the aisle, what about the people and

the citizens? >> charlie: i don't know, i have a hard time believing that most of america was sitting there watching this unfold in and saying same thing that i was hearing on cnn which was, oh, the president has not tweeted about this yet. and to the president has not tweeted enough. i don't think anybody was thinking that. i think that people were looking and saying, who are these dirtbags that are doing this? and my gosh, how did this person wind up getting killed? and spend a horrible thing with the state troopers, and -- >> harris: and the helicopter. unbelievable. >> kennedy: even before that, i am looking and going, really, even with all the things that are going on in the world right now, this is what you're doing? trying to start a race war? you have 82% of the country worried about going to a nuclear war with north korea. >> harris: while, they were. we are getting worried that the presidents may speak sooner than later.

we do not know exactly when which is what sandra was saying. as we ramp up in an communications point, because i think that we are still trying to fill some jobs in the white house. who is in charge of the messaging right now? >> abby: they are going to be upset that he did not say something right. he is in a tough position as president, and at this moment everybody is going to watch very, very closely. he is he going to say what he needs to say? that's a lot of pressure. >> charlie: if you step back and to look at the whole situation even before saturday, you have a discussion in a debate inside charlottesville about taking down the statue of robert e lee, there are good people on both sides of that debate. and there are good people who feel like it is a part of history, we do not want to see the thing taken down. and good people that say this is a distraction and that it is offensive to people. we want to take it down.

that is fine. that debate has been going on for a long time. all over the south. but it's when you see outside agitators, people that are just -- all they want to do is tear things down. they want to stir up controversy, and to get everybody at everyone's throats. they see that as something a debate like that to go in and do it. and what was told today about thursday, the governor of virginia issued a warning saying, don't come to charlottesville. i thought -- we knew that the white supremacist group was going to be there, but why would you give them so much air time -- >> harris: it is street cred among their base. >> charlie: it wasn't until later when i realized why he said that. or they knew because they had seen the chatter that you were going to have both of these groups that were descending upo

upon. >> kennedy: and the other side is going to take advantage of the advertisement, because they are trying to get as much cultural carnage as possible. these views are in a tough position because i look at places like berkeley and new york city and even ferguson, i would say that the best prep i've seen for something like this was in cleveland at the rn rnc. >> harris: they handled it beautifully. it was a nonstory. >> kennedy: was home or clashes in philadelphia. >> harris: and the speech went on. >> kennedy: you have to honor people's right to peacefully protest and of symbol. that is a constitutional right. but they do not have the right to beat the crap out of each other, and certainly not murder. >> charlie: how we move forward in a positive way, here's what happens, these turks come out, everybody stands around and ignores them. >> sandra: you are now seeing a lot of look into the white house where we are being told that president trump is expected to make a statement at

any moment. no specific details to what the statement will be, but obviously there is speculation that it will be on the latest out of charlottesville and possibly a change in tone coming from the white house in the president. we do not know. but that is a live cloak. we will keep our eye on that. when he steps to the podium, we will take his comments live, what do you expect to hear from him? >> charlie: i do expect -- i guess it will be about this. i don't know how it could be about anything else. another thing worth remembering, the statement when he got into a lot of trouble, he was actually coming out to talk about something different, a previous scheduled thing. and i don't think that, obviously he was ad-libbing when he went off. >> abby: who do listen to in moments like this? >> harris: who is in charge of the messaging right now? >> kennedy: that's a really good point right now. because maybe this is a casualty

of an empty communication director's slot and the people that he relies on some of the loudest may be people that do not know -- >> abby: also one thing about president trump, he is going to say what he wants to say. if so who does he listen to moments like this that are so important when we will hang on to every single word that he says? who does he trust that has the right opinion of what he needs to say right now? >> charlie: you are exactly right, harris. he has demonstrated that general kelly is a new power structure in the west wing that he really is determined to listen to. which is a good thing. i think that discipline is important, even though donald trump is very good at generally speaking as communicating for himself. >> harris: he can communicate for himself, yes. what puts it in secretary kelly's dh of the white house's guides he has had success speaking for the president after something has been difficult.

the trouble began coming he stepped up and smoothed things over from him. >> sandra: as we wait for the president to come out live, this was not planned, we should remind everybody pray that this was briefly announced a brief time ago. the white house producer giving us a heads up saying we had no prep for this. it is an unexpected announcement. a little bit of a color from inside that room. we are also being told that there are four teleprompters set up in that room. >> harris: some planning that we did not know about. you have to tell them. >> charlie: he has actually gotten pretty decent at the teleprompter. remember the first time, and he was terrible. >> harris: i can't throw any shade or breed a prompter for a living. >> kennedy: it certainly takes time. but it is interesting, because this weekend anthony scaramucci

told george that it was steve fanon influence on the president that was causing these negative distractions, but i think harris is right. it is general kelly that gets a hold of the presidents' day. you will see a dramatic shift in perspective, a very different tone and management style from both of those ones. >> abby: we have seen it in the last two weeks with him in charge, but we are looking at this come about to give the statement, this was not planned, he has four teleprompters -- >> harris: well, not for us. we don't want to speak for the white house. >> abby: but it makes you think about whatever the statement that is made was well thought through, obviously, they have something that they want to say. is the message more for the american people? is it for the media? who are you thinking about when you're coming up with these types of statements? >> charlie: with donald trump coming he is always looking to talk to people. which he is very good at.

it is sneaky how good he is at that. but you are in the white house, it is a bubble. it is an echo chamber. you are part of washington. and it is really hard to separate what the people are saying from what the media is saying. and clearly hearing the media. and it is -- it is impossible to hear the quiet of people over the noise of the media. >> sandra: let's get to kevin corke, our reporter at the white house. can you tell us anything about what we should expect from the president when he steps up to speak in a few minutes? >> if in doubt, go to your phone, right, back and forth. i have been emailing and texting people just trying to get a sense of what we might be dealing with here. clearly there are a number of issues that the president might decide to tackle. most notably the violence over the weekend, obviously in charlottesville. he has been criticized for not

coming out forcefully enough, specifically not criticizing white supremacist. white house officials saying we have been all over the seine, not only the president talking about it, the vice president, they have been on twitter. making a statement, but the criticism and the blowback would seem to be enough to have him come back out and make a statement. but i should add this, there are a number of unfolding investigations that we have been watching regarding this white house. this saves nothing of staff changes as well, so we do not know is the short answer, but that being said, as i go back and forth with my contacts on the inside, they are being very guarded and playing this close to the vest, not telling us exactly, but it would seem at a minimum the president would like to come out and make a strong and forceful statement about what happened over the weekend, in particular given the conversations with christopher brady and to the attorney general jeff sessions. >> harris: it's good to see you. what are you hearing about what those conversations may have

entailed and previous one since the president made his first statement on saturday? >> this is sort of by the book. the first idea is for the fbi to get involved, and this is a very serious situation, and when you are the attorney general, your first point of contact is local law enforcement and then the feds, so what is happening by way of conversation here is that the attorney general with the fbi director or laying out everything they know to this point to the president. what is interesting here, harris, the president can gets what he can from the conversation, but give us, the american people an update on where they are and more importantly where they are going as the investigation unfolds. and also keep this in mind. this is not simply about one person who got behind the wheel and heard lots of people. this is about planning. this is about intent. this is also about the fact that the number of people, as many as

dozens came specifically in the area ready for trouble. they will be talking about that, that is my suspicion. when you hear that there are a number of teleprompters, we will hear from more than just the president. >> harris: i thought may be a group of people, but we will see. >> sandra: is there anything else you can tell us, no prep for this on the part of the journalists at the white house. obviously knowing that there are four teleprompters set up in that room. the white house had some advance notice, anything else you can tell us? >> i can say this, i think jeff sessions tipped his hand, right? he said this morning he was asked specifically, did the president to enough? he said the president was forceful, he will say more about this. once i heard that, i knew that he would be talking about it. what i did not anticipate was that he would have a specific breakout to talk about it specifically. it does make sense that he would want to do this to not only clear up the sloppiness of the

weekend not really getting out ahead of this thing in a forceful way, but more importantly to reassure the american people that justice will be served in this case it, and that's exactly what i expect we will hear. beyond that, your guess is as good as mine. we keep checking our phones here and trying to peer over the side and seeing if i see anything nothing unusual, at least not yet. >> abby: he does keep us on our toes. give us a sense of president trump's style. you are covering the white house every single day of the week. how uncommon is it for him to come out like this unexpected tall divorce? clearly plan to be -- planned behind the walls of the white house, but how unusual is this to happen in the middle of the day? >> covering three different administrations, all very unique in the way that they handle the media. i felt like the bush white house was very structured, always on time, always on point. and the fedora to dana perino in that respect.

ernest was incredibly strong in his defense of obama's policies. this white house is getting at sea legs, so the fact that this comes out of the blue and happens unbeknownst to all of us does not surprise me. this is not a conventional communications job. that's putting it mildly. >> sandra: you have not had a chance to look down your phone, we thank you for that, if you did though, you would see it has been confirmed for a white house official that the president will specifically be addressing the violence in charlottesville. so we at least know that much at this point. >> you are right on the money, just saw that come across as well. this will be interesting, because it is not a makeover or a do over, this is a chance to advance the story from the white house perspective. >> harris: let's go back to what we were talking about before, it is an important point. you don't ever in life get a do over. you never get the chance to take back exactly what you said. you can go forward and acknowledge the fact that so

much more has happened since then. take a leadership role. that's what we are looking for right now based on what you told us, pretty by the textbook now what they will do. the president will have gotten the update from the fbi having the conversations with the fbi director. the attorney general as well. and he will be able to tell us a little bit about the inside baseball of how this is going to go from the federal perspective and what he is keeping his eye on. this is a chance, kevin, as ever president does, we saw this with obama as well after -- we had many of those occasions. ferguson, baltimore, but as you see kind of the road take a turn. to the president will take us through that. that's what we will be watching for. what more are you learning in that regard? >> i'm glad you mentioned that, harris, terrific perspective. i like to take people back to dallas, this reminds me of what happened in the tragedy that unfolded in one of america's great cities, dallas, texas. it gave president obama in the

aftermath of a chance to collect himself and then get out there and make a statement. so that has to be important for this white house as well. sometimes you do not get it right immediately. i think the press jumped on president trump earned their opinion not doing enough. this is a chance to not only do more, as you pointed out, harris, to take it to the next step and next level and to remind everyone that justice will be served in this case. he has an attorney general, a justice department, but they will in fact act. >> harris: charlie, do you have a question? >> charlie: charlie heard here, kevin. i was wondering if the president was in -- would that have had anything to do with may be the slower response than people wanted? >> that is a great question. and i think to be fair, i was in martha's vineyard during one of the major controversies that happened -- >> charlie: so it's all your fault?

>> you are right, this happens. they are on vacation come out of town, and you do your best to get up to speed. that is not an excuse for not doing something in a very forceful way. but what it does explain fairly is the process of how things play out. he went up there, made a statement, thought that was fine, the blowback said it was not enough. and now you have a chance to get more information. that is important. and to do more with the information, move forward, right on the money. >> harris: kennedy brought something up that i thought was interesting. we were going back and forth on the absence of the communications director. the absence of communication leadership. a new chief of staff. sometimes it is in those moments of well, i was going to a different kind of event. if that is part of their job to get you ready. the buck stops at the top, but you have to acknowledge the fact that there are some job openings. >> you are right about that. we have heard some names of some folks that some of us know

pretty well. professionally speaking, we will see if he or others decide to take on that job coming into one of the problems in not having a specific person leading the common shop is you are lying on your chief of staff, general kelly to get everybody going in the same direction. a little bit more challenging when you have somebody else as a person in that circumstance. they are doing what they can come about by having the president coming out of this afternoon being very forceful in his comments is a step in the right direction. >> harris: kevin, thank you very much. from outside the white house, thank you very much. >> sandra: as we know now, the pool has been moved into the diplomatic reception room where the president is expected to step up to that microphone and make remarks shortly. no exact guidance on timing. but they are standing in that room waiting for the president four teleprompters set up in the room. no advance notice of the statement coming up, but we will get to that when it happens.

as we continue coverage of the violence in charlottesville, let's listen to vice president mike pence slamming the media coverage of the president's remarks. >> i will say that i take issue with the fact that many in the national media spend more time criticizing the president's words and then they did criticizing those who perpetrated the violence to begin with. we should be putting the attention where it belongs. and that is on these extremist groups that need to be pushed out of the public debate entirely. and discredited for the hate groups and dis- fringe groups that they are. >> sandra: there are so much emphasis on the president's word and moving away from the actual violence that we witness in charlottesville. >> charlie: that's the only thing that matters. announcing the hatefulness and

prosecuting the violence. that speech, the comments from pence, i would love it if you can get one of those little monitors that -- spilled like instant polling. >> charlie: all three lines would go up to like 100 when mike pence is saying those words, because most people, that is what most people feel. and most people, they do not like any of this. >> harris: second, inside a fresh new ten minute warning for the president, so we will watch and listen to that. 2 minutes. >> kennedy: but saying that he has covered three administrations and the press can be disproportionally tougher on president trump, which goes to show that he does have to work twice as hard for half credit from the media. that is one angle. so we can't afford to make the missteps. but he also has people on two

different parties who are running against him in 2020 including ben's half, marco rubio. >> charlie: you are a funny figure in that respect. >> harris: there was a speech i turn into a little bit of a political speech towards the end. if you are listening and watching. >> abby: but that's how politicized these events become every single time. how we lose focus as mike pence ties, we lose focus on what happens with the innocent lives lives -- >> sandra: lose focus, and it directs people to blame. the mayor placing blame at the doorstep of the white house. i want to get this in her bed for two senior white house officials, the president will momentarily address charlottesville, we learned that moments ago, and racism had on in his administration. >> harris: later today he is scheduled to speak at 3:00 p.m. eastern. we thought he would be reading a memorandum on china. important given the situation with north korea. but we were looking to the

opportunity for him to speak on charlottesville, virginia. ahead of that 3:00 p.m., talking about these things. and it is significant to note that this will broaden out to a bigger speech on race relations. we saw the last president do this. i mention this. at these events have been under him as well. and now we are going forward in seeing it from this president. >> charlie: that is a reminder of all the vitally important issues out there that the president would much rather be talking about. >> harris: north korea, china? >> charlie: yes, and it needs to be dealt with. to your point, kennedy, he is not going to get a fair shake. and that is no excuse. no excuse to make missteps. you just have to never make missteps. >> kennedy: that is what it means. the methods against him politically. >> charlie: you will get no cover from people in a party. which is sadly how politics works. one of the nice things that i actually appreciate going on in washington right now is that the

business of just covering a guy because he is on your team, that is not happening anymore. i love it. >> abby: so you have the winds stacked against you, but we are talking about something as sensitive as race -- >> harris: and death. >> abby: these are hard talk books to talk about regardless of your background in the position that you are coming from. here he is, the president of the united states but he cannot win anyway. he is going to talk about something that is very difficult for anyone to talk about. >> harris: a couple of things i think we are missing, yes, race relations are difficult. but also, sandra, some really high points in the economy. that affects everybody. arguably as a person of color, i would say the great equalizer is the color of green and the dream making in this country. that is part of the story in the first 200 plus days of the presidency. it does not get covered.

>> sandra: we are not talking about rolling back some of the dodd-frank regulations. here is the president. >> president trump: thank you, i am in washington today to talk about trade policy and major tax cuts and reform. we are renegotiating trade deals and making them good for the american worker. and it is about time. our economy is now strong. the stock market continues to hit record highs, unemployment is at a 16 year low, and businesses are more optimistic than ever before. companies are moving back to the united states and bringing many thousands of jobs with them. we have already created over 1 million jobs. -- since i took office. we will be discussing economic

details later this afternoon, but based on the events that took place over the weekend in charlottesville, virginia, i would like to provide the nation with an update on the ongoing federal response to the horrific attack and violence that was witnessed by everyone. i just met with fbi director christopher ray, and attorney general jeff sessions, the department of justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent american and wounded 20 others. to anyone who acted criminally in this weekends racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. justice will be delivered. as i said on saturday, we condemn in the strongest

possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. it has no place in america. and as i have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. we all salute the same great flag. and we are all made by the same almighty god. we must love each other, unite together, and come together against bigotry, hatred, and violence. we must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as americans. racism is evil. and those that cause violence in its name are criminals and dogs. including the kkk. neo-nazis, white supremacy is, and other hate groups that

are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. we are a nation founded on the truth that's all of us are created equal. we are equal in the eyes of our creator. we are equal under the law. and we are equal under our constitution. those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike out to the very core of america. two days ago a young american woman, heather heyer was tragically killed. her death fills us with grief and we send her family our thoughts, our prayers, and our love. we also mourn the two virginian state trooper's who died with service to their community and country. jay collen and burke bates exemplified the very best of america, and our hearts go out to their families, their friends, and every member of

american law enforcement. these three fallen americans embodied the goodness and decency of our nation. in times such as these, america has always shown its true character. responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence within unwavering resolve for justice. as a candidate, i promised to restore law and order to our country and our federal law enforcement agencies are following through on that pledg pledge. we will spare no resource infighting so that every american child can grow up free from violence and fear. we will defend and protect the sacred rights of all americans, and we will work together so that every citizen in this blessed land is free to follow their dreams in their hearts and to express love love

and joy in their souls. thank you, god bless you, and god bless america. thank you very much. >> sandra: that was president trump live at the white house for the first time hearing from him specifically calling out to white supremacists, the kkk, neo-nazis saying that we must unite against hatred, bigotry and violence. it was unexpected that these remarks will be coming from the white house so quickly, he said that we must provide the nation with an update on this ongoing federal response. there was an update there. he said he just met with the fbi director as well as jeff sessions saying there is an ongoing civil rights investigation. he said we condemn in the strongest possible terms that violence that we witnessed in charlottesville. it has no place in america. we all live under the same laws. we all salute the same flag. we must unite. we must come together. he called racism evil.

he did call out those specific groups. the kkk, neo-nazis, charlie hurt on the sophist win so far with us, a very strong speech. >> charlie: very strong, do you think it will quiet the critics? i don't think that it will. sadly, it will be a wonderful last word about this stuff, but it will not be, i suspect, but i thought it was a very strong speech. >> harris: i think would be a wonderful opening, i don't think anybody will get the last word on this yet, but i would say this about the president's critics as a whole, if nothing will quiet them, than they do not have america in their site. they don't care about us, they do not care about americans coming in shame on them. they need to step aside and let justice be done. because if there is going to be justice, it's going to take all of us together. what the president said where he started, the words were still in the thought bubble on my shoulder. start with the economy prior to start with what is working.

because that is irrespective of the skin color. that is on the ability to rise in the country part of the color of green, during making, opportunity. that's what is important. that should be the beginning, and let's hope it can be. >> charlie: the trump campaign would send out the talking points coming into the talking points will begin with donald trump is a builder. he builds of buildings. and in the press and among the political people, they all thought this was so ridiculous and made fun of him for it. but it is key to understanding who this guy is. he is a guy that views himself as a builder and somebody who creates things. and while a lot of people in our business miss it, the american voters don't. >> sandra: there was a moment we were sitting on the couch and listening to the remarks where we said, oh, there it is paid to listen to this. >> racism is evil. and those who cause violence in

its name are criminals and thug thugs, including the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacist, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. >> sandra: and that was such a big moment because there has been so much pressure on the president tested the next call out the groups by name. >> sandra: you are seeing the influence of general kelly today and that speech and statement which was so vastly different than his reaction over the weekend. which was clumsy and i think that that had more of the stephen bannon influence, i would not be surprised if this event puts more pressure on the president to remove stephen bannon from the inner circle. >> abby: if you were listening to the speech right now or reading the transcript and you had no ulterior motive, no mission to take it where you wanted to go, which many people have today, i don't think there was anything that he did not say there that did not unite the country. he called out the groups were

what they were. as you mention, he talked about the need to love each other. to come together, that we are all the same. we should all be treated equally. that is what the american flag represents. i think that's why they dated this way. this unexpected statement that he made, because as you said, it was kind of fumbled the first time. and what he is planning to do today is a press conference. in the press conference, you do not have the teleprompter in front of you. they have the words that you want to say to the american people. >> harris: imagine going into that, why do you need four teleprompters? i think was four screens, one generated information. and to that allows you to do, we do not get those perspectives in tv viewing land, but he is playing to the room. he is having the ability to have continuity in his speech and look around, the teleprompter points are at an angle so that he can do that and it is not so noticeable. it looks like it is dead on to us still. that is so interesting. we do not know that a rundown of

the people in the room. but i find that fascinating. >> abby: that's what people get frustrated like that. you will hear a statement, watching it in your home, trying to digest that i hated that happen, how this is possible in 2017 and the country that we live in, that the speech will still be criticized and politicized. we will debate it for who knows how long after, but it should be the opening point are the endin ending. >> harris: the critics cannot accept anything ever, ever, ever, they are not on our side as americans. >> sandra: as far as a federal investigation is concerned, we will get updates on that. the president clarifying that that is ongoing after he just met with the fbi director and the attorney general. continuing coverage on fox news on "outnumbered" after the brea break. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing...

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>> harris: if you're just tuning in to the fox news channel, we want to bring you up to speed. moments ago the president talked about the situation that unfolded with such violent and what he called racist violence in charlottesville, virginia, on saturday. he used to those kinds of words in talking about it. he called out the kkk, the neo-nazis, the white supremacist. he called them evil.

those who would do racist violence. the president with very strong words now. taken some criticism, as you may know from coverage of not coming out strong enough. also updating us on the specifics of what happens now. he had just come out of a meeting earlier today with his attorney general and with the new fbi director christopher rae in talking about the investigation and how that goes forward. he mentioned the doj investigation into civil rights by regulations -- violations with the death and destruction then we saw in charlottesville in the protesting that went crazy with a driver coming targeting after people paid it was horrible, as you know part of the meeting the horrific -- a series of events, the heartbreak here in the nation with his leadership in words. so let's come out and talk about it as we wrap up "outnumbered," what stood out to you as his comments outside of enumerating the groups? >> charlie: that would be that thing that most people were looking for. but the fact that he talked about how we are all children of

god meaning that our rights come from him, not from government, but our rights come from god, and all people are equal under the law. if we can get those two things right, remember those two things in every situation, everything else works out. >> kennedy: it is interesting to see where the story goes from here and how people react to it so that we can have a honest discussion about what is happening in terms of race and how we relate to one another and to not having the conversation hijacked by hateful groups like white supremacists and some on the left who clearly want to divide us. >> harris: we do not know if this still is going to happen, but the schedule does have the president talking later today at 3:00 p.m. eastern continuing the conversation about the economy which is where he started. i know we have a few seconds, but i want to pick your brain. >> sandra: it was very interesting. that he lied this announcer or

the updated remarks on the violence of down in charlottesville with the economy. touting that breath neck businesses are better than they have been. 1 million jobs since he took office. it's interesting. >> harris: morton just a moment. come on dad! higher! higher! parents aren't perfect, but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything's good again. more!

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we will see you back here at noon eastern tomorrow, "happening now" in a few second seconds. we won't be online today. >> heather: that's where we began, a fox news alert from fox news global headquarters in new york, president trump just moments ago speaking to the american people from the white house about the attack in charlottesville. the president called out the kkk, neo-nazis and white supremacist as criminal and thugs. >> jon: the president also said racism is "evil." this comes as he hopes to fulfill a campaign promise by taking action against china over trade. we are covering all the news, happening now. speak of the president has made it very clear to the north korean regime how america will's of certain actions are taken. >> jon: the white house keeping up the pressure on north korea, but national security officials say we are not on the verge of a nuclear war. what's next in the stare down with the rogue regime?