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i wouldn't survive a month, i'm just telling you now. unless they have starbucks. >> bill: it sounds a little wacky. >> shannon: will find out more about that. >> bill: channing, great to be with you. catch you tomorrow, okay? speed 21 search right now >> jon: we begin with president trump back in new york city, he tries to move past the controversy of his initial response to the deadly charlottesville attack. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> heather: and i'm heather childress. thank you so much for sticking around and joining us. not really a welcome return home for the president as protesters greeted the president at trump tower last night hours after he spoke out again on the events in virginia after widespread criticism that he did not directly condemn white supremacist groups in his initial remarks. >> we condemn and the strongest possible terms, this egregious
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display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. it has no place in america. as i have said multiple times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. we all salute the same great flag and we are all made by the same almighty god. we must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together and condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violenc violence. we must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as americans. >> jon: we have doug mckelway live in charlottesville. first, we go to david lee miller live in new york city. >> good morning, jon. it is relatively quiet here at trump tower. there is a great deal of
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security. the scene here last night was indeed very, very different. there were thousands of protesters out on the street. they were there to criticize president trump about his remarks regarding recent events in charlottesville. president trump entered the building through the back entrance and he did not see most of the demonstrators, a number of trump supporters were also on hand. the two sides were peaceful, but there were some verbal bars that were exchanged. three people were arrested, but mostly afford things like disorderly conduct. meanwhile a total of three ceos have resided from the president's council of manufacturing regarding his remarks about charlottesville. the most recent resignations, the ceo of intel and under armour took place after mr. trump's condemnation of the kkk and other supremacist groups. today at trump tower it will infrastructure. let's take a live look right now
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with a lobby of trump tower, and a very short amount of time, we expect entering this building will be the treasury secretary, steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary -- the transportation secretary. there is an order that the president is affected to sign that will streamlined the order. it will set a two-year goal for completion of the permitting process. meanwhile, we expect that mr. mr. trump is going to spend most of today in trump tower, he may in fact make an appearance in the lobby of the building, he is going to overnight here, and then he is expected to return to bedminster new jersey where he will return to his country club. we also expect that outside trump tower, which again is quite quiet, the demonstrators will return, many of them still very critical of mr. trump's remarks in connection with recent events in virginia.
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>> heather: three days after the chilling violence in taylorsville north virginia -- >> jon: they were upset that a statue of robert e lee was taken down. the charlottesville police chief saying he deeply regrets the loss of life there. >> absolutely i have regrets. we lost three lives this weeken weekend. i certainly have regrets, we lost three lives this weekend, a local citizen and two fellow officers. we certainly have regrets, it was a tragic, tragic weekend. >> jon: now people in other cities are reacting by taking down many confederate statues,
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doug mckelway live in charlottesville, virginia, right now. >> this is the epicenter of the writing we saw early saturday morning, this is the emancipation part of the statue of robert e lee. this was brought down and out onto the offices of the city, but vigilantes want to train this thing up and yank it down with their vehicles. as hard to distinguish whether that's a real news or the kind of stuff that we see on the internet that may not happen. there is significant police presence. a man with a confederate flag struck the base of the monument, he was surrounded by a handful of people who began shouting at him, calling him a racist, police intervened with a handful of police officers who step between those protesters and the man holding the confederate flag. they escorted him to a police car, sat him down in the front of the police car and drove him away.
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as we mentioned, this is already happening. last night in durham, north carolina, protesters surrounded a statue of a confederate soldier, they yank it off its pedestal. it was bearing a inscription dedicated to the boys and gray. there are literally thousands of confederate monuments, primarily in north virginia, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, as well as other states, but not just a statues, we are talking bridges, buildings, schools, roads, and the crisis is going to be brewing in other cities, certainly it will happen in richmond, virginia, not far from the former capital of the confederacy where there are already heated discussions about what to do with monument avenue which hosts a variety of confederate statues there. the mayor of that city wants to preserve the statues, but preserve them and context. those who find the whole system of slavery to be so important
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that we should have no memories of it whatsoever. those who believe that what their ancestors did in the civil war should be preserved. then the airbrushing of history, attacking of totalitarian governments, a common practice in the soviet union with people whose fell into the favor of this government were literally airbrushed out of history. that's the context of what's happening here in charlotte till today. we've also learned when there'll be a memorial service for the young woman, the 32-year-old who was killed by the right vigilante who mowed down people in downtown charlottesville on saturday. it will happen tomorrow at the fairmont theater, it's already on the marquee of the theater. united we stand, lives lost, but not forgotten. we understand that the police are going to take rate precautions to reserve security there. they told us in a statement as a
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chief said yesterday, charlottesville police are working with the family to assure safety, but we will not go into specifics. that's where they stand right now and charlottesville erie it all calm, but tensions still high across many of the confederate states. back to you. >> jon: doug mckelway, thank you. in the meantime, president trump coming out the mainstream media for criticizing his latest statement on the violence in charlottesville. the president is back in new york city now. he clarified his original response of the white house yesterday. >> racism is evil and those who fight in its name are responsible. including hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold here as americans. >> jon: afterward he tweeted,
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made additional remarks on charlottesville and realized once again the fake news media will never be satisfied, truly bad people. betsy woodruff and chris beaton. betsy, we heard from david lee miller that two ceos were on the presidents manufacturing panel resigned even after he clarified those remarks. it is not just the news media who are unsatisfied, some americans aren't satisfied either. >> exactly. that feeds to one of his essential concerns about his presidency, my understanding is the president very much feels that even though he is the most powerful person on the planet, that he is under siege, that he spent his entire administration under attack, whether it's from thankless government employees who didn't go as far as they could have to enforce a travel ban, whether it's from defecting senators who didn't lay down their careers to help him pass
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health care, but predominantly, the president feels that he's under siege because of this media criticism, because of how much heat he's taken for the way his presidency is unfolding in that mentality is something you see show up on over the president publicly deals with this controversy, you see it show up in a way and particularly her, his son expressed concern and said that the white house is under attack, that's the view that the president had and that really colors his responses to a lot of these major crises. his tweet about how he thought the media where poor people because they weren't satisfied with his response to charlottesville meant that tweet itself undercut his response because it implied that he only made those comments to try to satisfy the media, so this mentality is something that's very real for him and it's something that his top advisors fear could truly make it harder for him to bring the country together. >> jon: chris, and your view,
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was this response to the tragedy, was an opportunity missed? >> it certainly was because i think especially in the modern media cycle where information moves so quickly and i think we have a misnomer sometimes we talk about mass media and mass information in it and all the channels from which we get information almost instantaneously, you have a captive audience in the aftermath of a massive event like this and for the president to reserve his best statements, the ones that bring the most comfort and have the best chance of creating some unifying factor in the country for a period of 48 hours, not really a good look on his part. to pick up on what betsy was talking about a little bit here, as an only child, i got to thinking about how it's not always about you and when you try to turn these comments back on the media, once again, and you deflect attention, once again from the actual event that's going on, you're the president of the united states. you have an influence for setting the agenda and having
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some sort of comfort for unifying message of the country, as a charge of the presidency sometimes. indeed, it's an opportunity missed for the president. >> jon: the approval numbers we are seeing in the polls for the president aren't good right now. >> wright, the approval numbers are extraordinarily low, even if you look at posters like numbers in the polls that are a little bit sunnier for the president and for the white house, the reality is, these numbers don't change, republican party could be in for a rude awakening next year. there is time next year in the white house for them to turn this around, there's time to make big changes, but they already have it made. we've seen general kelly come in as chief of staff, there's been a slight rollback and some of the president's more controversial tweets, we saw him tweet and then on retweet some questionable tweets this morning
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which could indicate general kelly's influence, but on the hole, this broader question of how the white house functions, how the president communicates the american people, it's still very much an unanswered line. that's part of the reason that the president is getting such negative feedback from many american voters who are responding to these polls. he still hasn't unified, he hasn't brought together his project and he's very much talking about policies and cultural issues in a way that's just reactive. >> jon: this is in something like health care or infrastructure. speak out that's exactly right, it's an apolitical matter. there are certain things in this country where the public is always going to have sharp disagreements and discourse. we've already seen it this year in health care, one of the things that the president came into office on with respect to policy, a high agenda list was immigration. people would have disagreements over those types of things and he would try to bring them together. it's a difficult thing to do
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when you have more of a 50/50 country. this is the type of thing where decades and decades and decades beyond this at this point. you would assume the president of the united states would be able to leverage a moment for national unity, to bring everyone under the same umbrella and he attempted to do that in his own way on friday, but just missing the mark by failing to call out the instigators. >> jon: chris and betsy, thank you both. >> heather: still coming up this hour of "happening now," james mattis warning north korea that targeting guam will mean more. how kim jong-un is reacting. plus, the president's chief strategist could be on the way out. the new call for stephen bannon bannon's out. and taylor swift and the message she's hoping to send. >> it's a new day because someone has the guts and the courage to stand up with
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absolutely no upside in doing so. she has told everyone, this is it. i'm strong.
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>> heather: breaking right now, and the north korea showdown as the rogue nation seems to be backing down from its threat to attack guam. kim jong-un delaying his decision on firing missiles toward the u.s. territory and mike pompeo making it clear that we are not on the brink of nuclear war when he defended the president's tough rhetoric. >> the president has made very clear to the north korean regime how america will respond if certain actions are taken. we are hopeful that the leader of that country will understand them in precisely the way are intended, to permit him to get the nuclear weapons off the peninsula.
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>> heather: joining us now as jonathan chan's are, a senior vice president -- thank you for joining us. the turnaround by north korea isn't that we believe them, do you believe that's in regard to president trump's tough rhetoric, do you think that's what turned him around? >> the rhetoric is part of it and it does make a change in policy. we haven't used that incredible threat of military force and that may have an impact on the leader of north korea. i think that also the fact that we have all elements of american power at play here, with diplomacy working, we've got the back channel under way, we've got the threat of sanctions against china, and we are looking to galvanize international support, all of those things brought together really poses a challenge to the north korean regime, but more importantly, we have to remember that the north koreans are really good at this cat-and-mouse game, so they can
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ratchet up tension and then they can bring it back down again, take us off our edge, bring down our vigilance and then start back over again and i think that's the pattern we should expect to hear. >> heather: 's that's why it said if we believe them. let's look at what general joseph lunceford had to say. >> do we have the capability to defend the peninsula? the answer is yes, we do. now and in the future. again, based on the projections, we will make adjustments to our capabilities based on the threat. we are clearly watching it very closely. our capability development back at home is based on our projections of the threat. >> heather: he's making those comments and south korea then and from there on, beijing and
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tokyo, all three of those countries obviously don't want war as well. what you think about his comments? >> he's saying on the right things, we have the ability to protect our interests in the pacific. the real key right now is the fact that we are reaching out to some of our allies in the pacific as well as some of our adversaries. we have long held that china is really the key to all of this. the chinese are the ones who are the financial outlets for north korea. without china, they are completely cut off from the international system, so we need to be working with them while we continue to make it clear to the north koreans that we have that credible threat response to whatever plan they may have. >> heather: all at the same time, around watching the very latest in a list of elements, we don't really have time to get to that, but that's an important part of all of this as well. thank you so much for joining us, appreciate it.
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>> jon: an update now on the still unsolved murders of two young girls and indiana earlier this year. the lead detective investigating the killings of abby williams and libby german say the police have more audio connected to the case. it comes from libby's phone which was found at the scene. investigators say the suspect approached the girls as they were walking on a trail back in february when libby started recording his voice on her phon phone. police say they also have dna evidence from the scene plus this artist's sketch. they've conducted hundreds of interviews, but this one people with information on the murders
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to come forward. >> heather: alabama voters casting ballots in today's special g.o.p. primary election for the senate seat vacated by jeff sessions. president trump endorsing senator luther strange was appointed by the governor to fill that seat temporarily. his opponents roy moore and mel brooks already out voting this morning. jerry bullis life for us at our new york newsroom with more. >> all eyes on alabama today. as you say, jeff sessions senate seat which he vacated when he became attorney general and although no republican has lost the senate race and alabama since 1982, luther strange, the republican incumbent is struggling. what he has on his side however is a lot.
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rebels are low to criticize him for a fear of alienating the president. strange also has the support of mitch mcconnell who is allies help put together million dollar campaign. robert bentley who appointed strange it six months ago -- bentley left his office after a sex scandal. rebels are taking a vantage of these weaknesses with brooks urging voters to send a huge message to the establishment by defeating mcconnell's hand chosen pick. today the strange campaign has said the president is urging alabama were public and voters to vote for strange. trump says his administration is accomplishing many of his goals, but i need luther to help us ou
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out. strange cast is ballots this morning, the votes will close tonight. >> heather: thank you. >> jon: the president's initial reaction to the violence in charlottesville widely criticized, now there are new questions about how long steve bannon, the president's chief strategist can stay in his job at the white house. our political panel weighs in on that. plus a hollywood stunt turned deadly after a motorcycle crash on a movie set and one witness says the tragic accident happened in a blink of an eye. >> i started shaking, i was scared. >> she hit underneath. this is a story about mail and packages.
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>> heather: breaking this hour of "happening now," the cast and crew of the movie "deadpool two witnesses say she appeared to speed up quickly and then she quickly lost control. brandon reynolds who plays the lead released a statement saying he is heartbroken, shocked, and devastated. >> jon: justin, president trump still taking heat from both sides for failing to condemn white hate groups by name after the deadly violence
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in charlottesville, virginia, over the weekend. >> reporter: can you explain why you did not condemn them by name over the weekend? >> they have been condemned. they have been condemned. >> jon: that question after the president put the blame squarely on white nationalists. the president has considered getting rid of steve bannon. a head line today reads bannon and limbo as trump faces growing calls for the strategists ouster. it goes on to report "what once endeared him to the president has now become a major liability after the president waited two days to blame white supremacists for the violence in charlottesville, there is no pressure from mr. trump's critics to dismiss mr. bannon." let's bring in josh holmes and jim kessler.
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thanks for being here, gentlemen. josh, let's start with you. what does steve bannon bring to the white house first of all? >> from the beginning, people thought that he was center of the president's campaign agenda. there was a very nationalist theme that took over that had a lot to do with jobs, domestic economic concerns, and i think coming back from that standpoint, it was a decent fit. the way it's evolved is whether or not this president has a soft spot for, quite frankly, white nationalism. i think this a little bit hyperbolic and i'm not sure steve bannon is responsible for that, but you saw in "the new york times" today, there is a certain amount of inference they are, it certainly doesn't help this white house. >> jon: jim, you've been and high-profile political positions, if someone isn't proving to be a liability to the political leader in office, how does one get the message, how do you know when it's time to go?
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>> it's time for him to go. >> jon: okay. >> the president had a very easy task this weekend. you had nazi's and clans people marching with automatic weapons to a peaceful town and inciting violence. all he had to do is criticize them and criticize them strongly. steve bannon, by all accounts said don't be too tough on these white nationalists. now the president is facing a week of turmoil. that is the last unpardonable sin for steve bannon. he will be gone by friday. friday is the firing day in washington, d.c., i think he'll be out. >> jon: josh, do you see the same way? do you expect this is the week that he gets his walking papers? >> a couple things, first i think it remains to be seen whether we know if it steve bannon asked the president for a
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response on saturday, we can't pass the buck on that, that's the president's fault first and foremost. no advisor has the capability of making missteps to the presiden president. here's the other point, i think everybody is tired of the white house having staffing decisions play out like game shows. who cares who is the senior advisor in the white house? if you have a staffing decision to make, if a person is not serving the president and the way the president feels is acceptable, get rid of them. move on, find some whales who will and let's get the job goin going. >> jon: according to that article in "the new york times"" steve bannon said that he only expected to stay in the job eight months to a year and he wanted to try to get the president's agenda on. and then move on. >> the president's agenda is not on track. i think part of the reason that
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steve bannon's direction, it's been very hostile towards moderates and independents and democrats, quite frankly. his hiring was the biggest mistake that the trump administration made in terms of personnel, but we have a new chief of staff, he supposed to bring order, bannon is chaotic, he needs to go. >> jon: on that point, jim, he helped the president when the white house. the campaign was kind of wondering when he came on board. >> winning the white house on governing are two entirely different things. bannon was a signal when he was hired and said this administration is going to move and a radically right-wing direction, it has and as a result, and hasn't been able to get anything done. at the president decided to start with and for structure package and tax reform, we would be having a very different conversation right now. >> jon: there have been reports before of the demise of mr. bannon within this white house and josh, so far he has hung in there.
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>> he has, i think the president sees a lot of the past success he had in the campaign and thinks he owes him a debt of gratitude for it, but to jim's point, there's a lot to do here and it's time to move on. if steve bannon is no longer serving this president and a way that he feels is moving the ball forward, you have to find some whales who will. we don't need to read about this on the front page of "the new york times," we don't need unless cable segments about steve bannon, i think everyone is collectively tired of the staff turnover. numeral kelly, coming in as chief of staff has done a whale of a job by putting this to wor work. staff serves the president, period. >> jon: that does seem to be one of the turning points here, jim, general kelly coming on board as chief of staff, there seems to be a new discipline, a new direction in the white house and that is where he could find
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himself on the short end. >> i feel that the timing on this for bannon was especially bad because you've got kelly taking over who wants to tighten the reins and by all accounts, bannon went around kelly, trump is the one who made the decisio decision. this is a huge distraction for the white house, i'm sure kelly is making the case that he needs to go. >> jon: we'll see what happens on friday. if your predictions prove true, i'll ask you for some lottery numbers. jim kessler, josh holmes, thank you both. >> heather: the verdict is in as the jury finds in favor of taylor swift about horror groping trial. why did they only award her a dollar and what is her reaction? plus an airport filled with foam
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awarding her exactly what she asked for, one dollar. >> jon: >> that one dollar was e amount of damages. they say and held immeasurable value. it stood for no means no. >> police need to know, girls, women, men, everyone, it's a matter of respect. until somebody draws that line and resets the dice, we don't all know and she did that. taylor swift did that, none of us did that. >> this photo was taken in 2013 when she said david mueller reached under her skirt and grabbed her behind. she countersued accusing him of sexual assault and battery.
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she said "my hope is to help those whose voices should also be heard. therefore, i will be making donations in the near future to multiple organizations that help sexual assault victims defend themselves." mueller insists he did not grip the singer, explaining when he moved into the photo, he bumped her arm, but did not reach into her dressed. mueller had a fragile ego and as a radio host, was insulted that he was not allowed in the vip line. swift to his own court every day for the one-week trial testified mueller grabbed her from behind and held on even if you try to move away. on the stand, she spoke bluntly of her description of those moments and she and her mother andrea who was also named in the suit and braced each other while the verdict was being read. her mother was in tears. >> jon: good for her. thank you. >> heather: coming up, hurricane gert is now turning in the atlantic, where gert is
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♪ >> jon: right now, some information on crime stories were watching. a domestic terror plot stopped in its tracks as the feds charge a 23-year-old man they say planned and tried to execute the bombing of an oklahoma city bank. the fbi has been monitoring him since december. in california, scott peterson speaking out publicly for the first time and more than a decade. he sits on death row for the
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murder of his wife, lacey. he says he was surprised his guilty verdict and insists he was not the last person to see his pregnant wife on the day she disappeared back into thousand seven. the judge morning a teenager charged with murdering an opera driver. he told her to behave yourself behind bars after prosecutors say she attacked guards. she is charged as an adult in first-degree murder. the driver later died after those injuries. >> heather: right now, an alabama woman has been found alive after she was missing for almost a month. authorities say she managed to survive by eating berries and tricking from puddles. police are still working to uncover all of the details. >> a whole lot more to the story, it's going to be sad, but heartwarming at the same time. it's a relief. >> heather: lisa ferris lost 50 pounds while she was lost in the wilderness.
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investigators say she was with these two men when they robbed a hunting lodge, but claims she had no idea that it was going to happen, both of those men now face burglary charges. a lot to be uncovered there. >> jon: extreme weather alert. hurricane gert, the second hurricane of this 2017 season, gert is expected to strengthen and coming hours and is expected to create massive waves along the east coast. >> heather: janice dean is live in the fox weather center with the very latest. we were trying to decide if gert was female or male. >> if gert was a person, it would be a female. harvey is the next letter or the next name on the list. hurricanes are not male or female, they just get named either female or male name and this one is named gert and the good news about gert is it will
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remain offshore. the high waves and rip currents are going to be the big threat from this. our second named hurricane and this 2017 season, you can see the forecast across the mid-atlantic and the northeast. if you're a good surfer, you might want to take the day off today or tomorrow, but the rip currents are going to be dangerous, so he or if you're not a seasoned surfer, be really carefree careful to stay out of the wate water. it is a busy season here at the hurricane center is saying we need to be on guard especially across the atlantic coast, the gulf of mexico, and the caribbean. we have a couple of features we're watching. we are watching another area of pressure that is rolling off the coast of africa, we are getting into the peak season, that's where we see the most destructive and very strong hurricanes coming off the coast
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of africa. our first area of low pressure that has a 50% chance of developing over the next five days, this one, it looks like it's going to move into the caribbean and continue along the westward track. the computer model may occur here and follow the path of gert and won't affect the u.s. coastline which is great news, but the one behind that, we'll have to pay attention. tropical activity, we are getting into that peak season right now. here we are and then as we get into september 10th, that is when we start to really see these storms crank up in the atlantic. so far, we've been busy. we've got gert out there, we have seven named storms, two hurricanes already. the national hurricane center saying right now, we are expecting a very busy season come perhaps to life in major hurricanes and we haven't had a major hurricane hit the u.s. and over a decade, so i'm concerned with folks being complacent. if you live anywhere along the east coast, along the gulf of mexico, you need to know what
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your preparations are now because these things can pop up and will bring in the very latest, but for now, gert is going to be a fish storm. so fish beware. >> heather: thank you. >> jon: fox news alert and another bit of a black eye for president trump because the president of the alliance for manufacturing has dropped off that counsel just 16 minutes after the president issued his grandstanding tweet. president trump tweeted this just a few minutes prior to the announcement "for every ceo that drops out of the manufacturing council, i have many to take their place. grand standers should not have gone on. jobs! the president trying to point to jobs in the economy as his number one issue, but again, four members of his alliance for american manufacturing council
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have left in the last few days. >> heather: ed will be interesting if he references that at all. he makes some comments on infrastructure after 3:00 p.m. eastern. >> jon: infrastructure is the topic of the day, i would suspect he will not allude to that, but we'll see. >> heather: coming up next on "happening now," legal action involving century cities, the lawsuit just filed against the justice department and will it hold up was to mark we'll talk about that. plus, new words of the obama administration was worn years ago about russia's plan to disrupt our election process. where did those mornings come from and what they did or did not do about them. ♪ this is crabfest at red lobster.
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>> jon: we are going to take you for just a moment to southern south america. vice president mike pence is in argentina. among the reasons, he has been in dispatch there is as he's been participating in a joint press conference with the president of argentina, but he is also reassuring u.s. allies that the chaos underway in venezuela on the northern part of the south american continent is not pleasing to the united states and we will support our friends in this hemisphere. >> heather: will continue to monitor that for everyone and will be back here in an hour because "outnumbered" is starting right now. >> jon: see you in an hour. >> sandra: fox news alert and
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what some are calling a victory for the president. kim jong-un is appearing to step back from potentially starting a war, but warning he could change his mind if provoked. this is "outnumbered," thank you for joining us today. i'm sandra smith coming here today, anchor of the intelligence report, trish regan is here, former national security staffer under president bush and obama, gillian turner, cohost of after the bell, melissa francis is here and today's #oneluckyguy, plus your work has been, cohost of after the bell, david asman. >> melissa: i always say i'm happier on the said if he is there.

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