>> leland: from cop killing and violence at political rallies to shooting at congressmen at practice baseball games. extremists on the left have had terrible acts of violence. the president accused the left of trying to revise history. >> president trump: many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week it's robert e. lee. i notice stonewall jackson is coming down and where does it stop? >> the white house memo says the president is taking swift action to hold violent groups accountable but nevertheless, bill, there has been criticism of the president not just from democrats but republicans as

well. florida republican senator marco rubio tweeted out white supremacists should be assigned only part the blame. former presidential candidate mitt romney sent a message to say the two sides are not the same. he says one supports racism, the other opposes it. they come from different moral universes. >> david lee miller starting our coverage this afternoon in mid town manhattan. >> shannon: meanwhile happening overnight in baltimore. crews removing four statues. the fate of those statues. ending more than a year of indecision. the quick overnight action was done for safety reasons and to avoid conflict. >> authorities arresting a college student that helped bring down the statue in durham.

this was the scene two nights ago. that is the arrest of man after they held a press conference yesterday. she is charged with participating in a riot and felony property damage. she admitted in a press release to tying the rope around the statue's neck when the durham county sheriff vowed to charge those responsible to the full extent of the law. >> shannon: bill, over in lexington, kentucky police are telling fox news they're teaming up with the f.b.i. and other federal agencies to prevent any riots from turning deadly after the white supremacy groups have announced plans to have protests at courthouses. >> it's calm and peaceful now. lexington is bracing for

trouble. the mayor tweeted he was going to accelerate his announcement to ask council members to have the statues removed and triggered white supremacy groups to come here. >> we're not sanitizing and not destroying. we're putting these statues in the proper context. out of the center of the city where they are being glorified today. >> our role is to protect people's rights. if we see violence or assault occur we'll make an arrest on either side. >> the mayor said the timing is always right to do the right thing. this was once a slavery auction site. they moved ahead with plans to relocate the statues. neighbors are complaining they don't want the statues in their

neighborhood. the city doesn't have an estimate of the cost to remove them and we're keeping our eye on a rally in frankfurt. there are people protesting today to have all confederate statues removed statewide here in kentucky. >> shannon: we'll check back with you. >> analysis now, thank you, shannon, katie pavlich fox news contributor. clear he was trying to call out the left yesterday as law breakers. that was intended. but with it comes everything else that followed as we watched together. >> what followed on is a result of him not coming out initially on saturday and condemning white supremey and neo-nazis that were there. it is important to remind everybody of who he is specifically condemning here. there has been a far left violent movement in this country for years. most recently we've seen it come into the form of a group

called antifa. they were there on saturday. they were there with clubs. aclu chapter said they were fighting with the white supremacists in the park. we're in a situation now where we're looking at both sides and going neither one deserves any kind of sympathy but for the left to ignore the fact that there has been a lot of violence coming from their side doesn't get us to this place where we can condemn neo-nazi white supremacists violence and condemning very violent acts that happened on the left especially since president trump was elected and inaugurated whether it's smashing windows, firing fireworks at campus buildings, against speakers, conservative speakers they find to be offensive. that cannot just go uncondemned and non-talked about because it's inconvenient to the left. >> try to get in the thought process in decision making. tuesday you go after the left,

monday after the right. he could have left the statement on monday where it was. >> he probably should have. that's probably something he could have done. he made it clear saturday he wanted to condemn all sides of this. the truth is there is a far left movement that was there on saturday that we're seeing in the country and as long as we see the far right clashing with the far left and we have to talk about this we have to remember this is not a representation of the country as a whole. just a representation of these two far right and left wing groups trying to get the attention to make it seem this is where we are as a country. i think the president did what he could to say we have to condemn both side and be unified. the left can't ignore their side of the situation because they don't like what the president had to say. >> listen to this was yet that was apparent to me that he was trying to make this point. watch. >> president trump: you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest. i don't know if you know, they had a permit. the other group didn't have a

permit. so i only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. >> it is -- he does not do nuance, never has. that's about as close as he will come to it. >> first i will say there is a logical academic valid argument to keeping these statues up and not just taking them down. but to take the side or to imply that somehow these neo-nazi groups, which they are that organized this protest of renaming the park, taking down the statue, is not exactly the best way to go about it. the second thing is in terms of moving forward of how to deal with this, the white house can simply say the department of justice has opened up a civil rights investigation and they'll go at the case with the full extent of the law and prosecute as many people as they can. the f.b.i. has been assigned as we saw in the reporting to make sure that violence doesn't happen in other cities around the country and let it be. he can't win with the media or

the left. he made a statement on monday and now he will spend the week cleaning up his statement even though he condemned both sides and there is responsibility on both sides. >> how the police responded or did not respond. breaking news from the white house. long time aide, assistant with the president will be the interim communications director. >> i don't think it will be a traditional white house communications director position. she is very close to the president and knows how he operates. it will be interesting to see how she works with john kelly to get to the president and to make sure the messaging is on par. it's a big week and she has a lot of work to do with everything that we've just talked about. >> they're all big weeks. thank you, katie. shannon, what's next. >> shannon: conservative reaction to the president's comments decidedly mixed. >> he made some points that

were factually right. >> what trump did today was a moral disgrace. >> shannon: more of that tense exchange between laura ingraham and charles krauthammer as we debate where the president goes from here. >> the primary headed for a runoff. >> shannon: attorney general jeff sessions heads down to miami to praise that city to reverse its sanctuary city status. ron desantis is here to talk about that and much more. >> drug crimes, gang rapes, crimes against children and murderers. countless americans would be alive today and countless loved ones would not be grieving today if these policies of sanctuary cities were ended. 60% of women are wearing the wrong size pad and...

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>> i'm an immigrant myself but when it comes to when people are arrested in miami-dade county to keep our citizens safe we provide that information. we will hold and honor those detainer requests. that's the right policy. >> bill: that's the mayor of miami-dade in florida vowing to uphold president trump's policy an sanctuary cities. jeff sessions speaks there later today praising that city for setting an example on immigration enforcement. want to bring in the congressman ron desantis.

welcome back to "america's newsroom." the ag will say in part the following on screen. miami-dade is an example of what is possible through hard work and a rededication to the rule of law. it is proof the entire nation can do better. the most fundamental duty of government is to ensure the safety and liberty of its people. why is miami-dade different from, say, san francisco, chicago, or pick another big city? >> i think miami-dade is putting public safety above ideology and in this instance you've had people for years and years who have been arrested on very, very serious offenses, sexual assault, homicide and if they get bail, that information is not provided to ice so we can track and identify these people. what we found is people who were known by these local authorities across the country to be in the country illegally have then gone on to commit more criminal offenses. and so i think attorney general

sessions is exactly right. had you notified ice and had ice enforce the law those future crimes would not have been committed. >> bill: there is a threat from the white house that says we'll take away your federal money if you don't obey. is miami-dade worried about losing money, sir? >> i think they all should be. this idea that you'll get money from the federal government but then try to undercut federal law and federal law enforcement, it doesn't sit well with american taxpayers and not good policy. i'm sure it was a concern but i think it's a legitimate concern and i think that sessions is right and the president is right to use that and say get with the program, otherwise then just deal with it on your own and we won't be providing the federal spigot. >> bill: there is a clause about a detainer which means if you apprehend someone, you hold them for a period of time. in this case it may be

indefinitely, until the federal officials can get there and if more action needs to be taken against that suspect, that action will be taken. that must be a critical aspect of this in places like miami-dade in order to clear and clarify the status of said individual. how significant is that do you believe? >> i think it's very important. if you remember one of the guys who used to campaign with the president, shaw, his son was killed by an illegal immigrant who in los angeles they did not do or honor the detainer request. he had been booked on serious gun charges. everyone knew he was in the country illegally and released. before he was able to go to trial he killed his son. important for public safety. >> bill: third base this afternoon jeff sessions. we'll see the speech then. speaker paul ryan sent out this tweet yesterday.

we must be clear. this bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. there can be no more all ambiguity. has there been am -- ambiguity. he was talking shots yesterday at the left wing groups gave an opening to the press. the thing about these groups, bill, this was a national thing. they were bringing people from all over the country. they got a few hundred people. i can get you 200 people in my district for a workshop on social security benefits. this does not have a lot of purchase with the broader american public. i think it's important as we condemn that to also condemning them and their views to also just remind people that this is not something that is gaining a lot of steam in american politics and these guys really exist to provoke and they exist outside the american political system in many ways.

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>> shannon: president trump rolling out another executive order speeding up approvals for his $1 trillion infrastructure. >> it can go to 20 years. this shows 10. it could go out to about 20 years to get something approved. this is for a highway, this is less than two years. this will happen quickly. that's what i'm signing today. by the way, if it doesn't meet environmental safeguards we won't approve it. very simple. >> shannon: melissa francis, fox business anchor and expert on all the business issues we're fighting about. the president says it takes years and years to get some of these things done. he wants to stimulate the economy and help private business in the process. >> that was the amazing part of the news conference yesterday that everyone missed. businesses were cheering around the country. it's job creation. he talked about the fact the empire state building in new

york was built in 11 months. if it was today it would take 15 years. look what happened with the world trade center and the private building versus the public one. a difference of a decade. it is something he knows about. he will streamline it. he talked about financing it, $200 billion in government funds. you can extrapolate that out to a trillion when you add in private investment. a huge home run. big deal cutting down on the regulations. just the permitting process. he announced a lead agency that gets the project through all of the -- it was an incredible announcement. it would create jobs, great for anyone who drives on streets and use a bridge. it is jobs. it's great stuff. it got totally lost. not to the business community who did hear it and is now counting on it.

>> shannon: environmentalists are worried about it. he said it was the most significant action taken in a generation, those regulations. to get rid of them eliminating the requirement is self-defeating. we can build smarter now or pay more when it floods and it will. >> this is totally different ends of the spectrum. he is not talking about destroying the environment. you heard him say right there if it doesn't make environmental sense we won't do it. it's not about that. it's about the giant hoops you have to jump through that prevent things from getting done. why do we set money aside and say we have shovel-ready jobs and infrastructure never happens. you can't get it done with the permitting process. it takes too long and people give up. >> shannon: talking of other people giving up some people have abandoned the councils. one of them is don't you lose your voice in the process when

you walk away from these councils? from someone who decided to say, the ceo of wal-mart he is staying on. as we watch the events and response from president trump over the weekend we felt he missed a critical opportunity to bring our country together by rejecting the actions of white supremacists and his remarks yesterday were a step in the right direction. do people want to hear from the ceos? >> not the shareholders. they say -- this is a direct quote from somebody. i couldn't care less about that ceos feelings but he better light it up when he announces earnings on thursday. his job is not to have feelings. he can have feelings on his own time. when he is at work being paid as the ceo he has a legal responsibility to turn a profit. if he decides to leave the council because that's better for profits, because his

customers don't like whatever the president is doing, that's fine. that's his fiduciary responsibility. leave your feelings at home and go to work as the ceo to turn a profit to your shareholders. that's your one and only legal responsibility as the ceo of that company it is outrageous to see them behaving this way. it's inappropriate. they're supposed to do what's right for the people they work for, the shareholders. they better not forget that. >> shannon: wal-mart comes out on thursday. >> he better light it up as that one shareholder said. >> bill: fox news alert now breaking news from hawaii. the u.s. coast guard and u.s. army responding to reports of a downed helicopter on the coast of oahu. the president blaming both sides sparking a tense debate between two of our own. our panel takes up this debate next.

>> i think his statement yesterday was clear and strong and i think it was compassionate. i think he should have said it on saturday. i have no idea why he didn't. >> i will tell you why he didn't. it's not what's in his heart.

>> bill: word from beijing, china urging the u.s. and north korea to work toward a peaceful resolution after the tense stand-off spurred by the recent missile tests and saying they would bomb guam. they stepped back on that. president trump responding tweeting kim jong-un of north korea made a very wise and well-reasoned decision. the alternative would have been both catastrophic and unacceptable. >> as i said on saturday, we

condemn in the strongest possible terms this display of hatred, bigotry and violence. it has no place in america. i think there is blame on both sides. you look at both sides. i think there is blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it, either. >> shannon: the president doubling down on his comments from saturday saying both sides are to blame for the deadly weekend events in charlottesville sparking this back and forth between charles krauthammer and laura ingraham on special report. >> to critique what he did today on the grounds it distracts from the agenda or was a tactical mistake i believe is a cop-out. he reverted back to we are was on saturday and made it very clear what he read on sunday was -- was it monday, two days later -- was a hostage tape. >> i resent you said it was a

cop out. we were asked to do what we did on the show tonight what he did today. we have to be honest about the evil of racism and also a far left trying to tear down history and intimidate free speech in the country. that is not defending neo-nazis. >> i never said that. >> i think his statement yesterday was clear and strong and i think it was compassionate. i think he should have said it on saturday. i have no idea where he didn't. >> i'll tell you why he didn't say it on saturday which he made plain today because that's not what's in his heart. >> you can read a heart. you are a ph.d. >> shannon: brad blakeman and ben kissel. a little awkward there between a couple of big names on the conservative right. brad, they wouldn't be having this awkward debated he not taken those questions yesterday.

he was supposed to be talking about infrastructure. >> he did take the bait. they know that the press puts out the chum and he takes the bait every time. if he was a little more displaned his saturday statement, his initial statement was fine. he spoke again on monday and clarified his prior statement because he had more facts what was going on on the ground and what transpired there. he should have stood by his statement. not entertained questions and talked about infrastructure. he chose to talk about charlottesville. he made that decision. >> shannon: the left has to love that. they know he will take the bait because he feels offended by the fact he laid this out and clarified on monday -- yeah, and then yesterday it reignites. >> i don't think the left or right like this. this is traumatic right now for the american people as a whole. i believe this is a serious issue and i want to say the

name heather heyer. a victim during these attacks in charlottesville, a woman trying to exercise -- two officers that lost their lives. victim trying to exercise her first amendment right mowed down by a domestic terrorist. what's happening now there is violence on the left and right. the violence on saturday was instigated by the right. we have to take that as an isolated incident where the right needs to have ownership over that. the rally was the reason that antifa showed up. they were the major instigators and the president misspoke when he said there was blame on both sides regarding saturday's events. >> shannon: it is accurate to say the reporters from "the new york times" who were tweeting or putting out statements that they did see violence from the left. not equating these groups and what they are about but saying they were violent people on both sides. fair to say that? >> there was violence on both sides and a lot of violence in the country and where we have

to heal and what happened with donald trump on saturday and yesterday is damaging to the country. it shouldn't be lost on anyone we have millions of americans believe we have a nazi sympathizer in the white house. this is bad stuff. >> no they don't believe that. and that's the point. i wouldn't take the reporting that we're seeing, the outrageous reporting and accusations against our president as fact or that there are people out there by the millions who believe that. i don't believe that and i believe the president in his heart believes that the american people are united against all acts of violence and domestic terrorism. that's what i believe. >> that's fine you believe that. there are many people as we've seen on this network who are openly crying because of what has happened and because of the rhetoric coming from this white house. it should be very easy for the president of the united states to stand up to white nationalists and nazis. >> he did. >> then he had this caveat but

the other side of them. it's the but them world. they might be wrong on the right but look on the left. both are wrong and we need to acknowledge that. >> both were wrong, the left and right fringes are damaging to our country and the vast majority of americans do not believe or identify with either side. >> i agree with that. >> we're good and decent people. the president right now would help to unite the country and be more like abe lincoln. being defensive and combative is not what they need from our president. >> shannon: krauthammer brought that up. there has been progress along the way with healing the wounds of the civil war, eventually passing civil rights laws and things that have been steps in the right direction. in the last 50 or 60 years the younger generations have tried to heal the wounds and be

opposed to a racial generation. we're still a long way from healing those wounds and they were ripped open this weekend. >> donald trump is 34% approval ratings. you wonder he is horrified of giving up this bizarre base he was able to coble together in 2016 and feels he needs these fringe groups in order to maintain any level of -- >> wait a second. the base attracted to donald trump is not the people that we've seen in charlottesville, it's not. what we had in charlottesville is a super minority of fringe people that doesn't represented the majority of americans. >> shannon: i think it's important that the people who are his base, the millions of people who voted for him, don't want to be lumped in with these people and find it very offensive. >> the people in wisconsin did not vote for him because he is a white nationalist. >> shannon: you have some points of agreement. thank you for the conversation. >> bill: hot stuff. the race to fill a critical

senate seat once held by jeff sessions headed for a highly-contested runoff. why the president's pick might be in trouble. more questions on the future of steve bannon. is his position safe in the west wing today? >> president trump: i like mr. bannon. he is a friend of mine. he is a good person and i think the press treats him very unfairly. [upbeat music]

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>> i can't help what they do behind doors in washington, d.c. of course i support the president's agenda. i have supported him throughout and i don't know why he did what he did but that's his decision, not mine. >> bill: alabama senate candidate justice roy moore earlier today on president trump's decision to support incumbent senator luther strange. they're headed for the runoff

after yesterday's election. moore came in first beating strange by six points. i'll bring in john mccormack. trump won alabama by 30 points. he and mitch mcconnell are on in for strange. >> they think strange is a strong ally and others will be the anti-establishment people who would buck the leadership. a lot of people like that in alabama. roy moore is controversial on the national stage. his social conservatism can veer into an anti-americanism. putin might be right that america can be a source of evil in the world. he came in first place and strange came in second. no one knows how it will shake out in the end but moore has the edge. we don't know how it will shake off. >> bill: it is a very interesting divide now you see

and evangelicals love roy moore. he was the judge who stood up to the government when they tried to remove the 10 commandments out of the judicial building in alabama and he did it twice. >> that has build up a big support among evangelical christian voters in alabama. he is still controversial. moore, after he left the supreme court race. a bunch of people who voted for romney didn't vote for moore in 2012. whichever republican wins this runoff is probably going to be the next senator from alabama. you never know for sure. when a president's job approval ratings is in the 30s and both are controversial for different reasons you never know what will happen. >> bill: the tweet from the president yesterday. big day in alabama. vote for luther strange, he will be great. here was the tweet earlier today. congratulations to roy moore

and luther strange for being the final two heading into the september runoff in alabama. exciting race. the headline from politico. trump and mcconnell will try to avoid alabama embarrassment. is it at that level? >> it would be an embarrassment for mcconnell. trump doesn't want to risk too much political capital. the statement was tepid. he didn't say bring luther strange over the finish line. it was congratulations to both candidates, exciting race. i think the race will get pretty nasty. both sides will focus on ethical questions with luther strange was appointed by the former governor who resigned in disgrace and roy moore has been attacked by the senate leadership pact aligned with mitch mcconnell saying he took over a million dollars through a christian charity. that's where it is heading. both sides trying to play it on ethics. >> bill: you can talk about

establishment or anti-establishment vote. you can talk about the religious vote on the side of evangelicals. the strength of donald trump which i believe is still there in alabama. do we read too much into a vote in this state at this stage in this presidency, at this stage in a congress that really hasn't had the key achievement yet? >> bill: it's possible. a low turnout summer primary. it will be more interesting what happens in the general election to see where they are. alabama can get 60% of a vote. if they squeak by with 50% or shocking loss, it's possible. massachusetts is about as democratic as alabama is republican and you have to recall in 2010 what happened. a republican won ted kennedy's senate seat a year after obama won election. that would show you republicans are in for a world of hurt in

2018. a slim chance. who would have thought massachusetts could have gone republican in 2010. i wouldn't rule anything out at this point. >> bill: trump's strength was pretty well founded. we'll see what kind of pool he has now. thank you, john. what's next? >> shannon: music is supposed to evoke patriotism and intire our troops. now the government isn't so sure the mission fits into the budget. we'll explain that just ahead.

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>> bill: startling new evidence

that could unlock an infamous aviation mystery. the missing malaysia airliner. four satellite images were released of debris floating on the indian ocean two weeks after the plane vanished. it shows objects drifting in the vicinity of the predicted crash zone. we'll see what comes of this. >> shannon: u.s. military bands are tasked with inspiring patriotism and enhancing the morale of troops through music. ♪ >> shannon: now the pentagon is asking them to prove the bands are -- they want to justify the bands existence and budget. good morning, lucas, tell us how much the military spends on these bands, which i might add

are outstanding. >> good morning, shannon. the pentagon spends about $437 million on its bands. that's more than the country of latvia, located on russia's border, spends on its entire defense budget. officials say it's hard to measure the value of the u.s. military bands but people say it's important to honor the millions of americans who have served their country faithfully and to those when they are laid to rest at arlington. >> this is very special to me. first of all we're out there three teams a day and the other services are right next to us and we're paying our final respects. has anybody ever witnessed this, they would know how important it is for unformed service members to bid these comrades farewell. >> a new report about the government accountability office says more than 100 military bands must justify the hundreds of millions dollars spent to keep the music playing.

it doesn't obtain performance measures. many will tell you it's hard to measure patriotism on a scorecard. >> shannon: what are the recent treads with the military bands? >> they measured that participation rates has declined in military bands. for two military services they've now spent more to justify their budgets. the roughly -- the band size has been reduced by 10% across the services. navy and air force reported they have spent more on their bands over this period raising questions by government watchdogs. shannon, they've been studying how to keep score to measure the value of these bands over the past six months and the new scorecard goes into effect october 1. >> shannon: let us know how it goes, lucas. good to see you. >> bill: fox news alert.

heather heyer was killed this weekend in the deadly car accident this weekend. the service is underway next hour. we'll take you there live when it begins. president trump making no promises when it comes to the future of steve bannon. why his answer from yesterday is fueling further speculation today.

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>> shannon: president trump shuffling the deck inside the white house now tapping hope hicks to be his interim communications director. i'm shannon bream. >> bill: good morning. ifm owe bill hemmer live in washington hicks will take over that role left vacant after anthony scaramucci came and went. she will pitch in until a permanent selection has been made. >> shannon: let's bring in

steve hayes, editor for "the weekly standard". she has been with this president from the beginning of his campaign and all the way through. they work well together. what do you think? >> people who have worked with hope hicks saying she is competent, smart and understands the boss. she has that going for her. i think what that likely means is we're most likely to see more of what we've seen. in terms of what actual changes we'd see at the white house, i think we'll zero. donald trump is his on communication director, chief of staff. he does what he wants. he caught his own staff unawares yesterday and the comments on saturday where they had prepared remarks for him he chose not to read. it won't make a big difference. >> shannon: do you think she stays in that position? who else would be somebody on the short list? >> that's a good question. it will be a difficult job to fill honestly because of what

we've seen over the past few days and because donald trump is so hard to manage. that's what these communications directors do. they come up with a strategy and try to implement it and have messaging of the day. in the past we've had infrastructure weeks and energy weeks and the president just blows through all of that whether it's with his tweets or the comments that he makes off the cuff. there is no real strategy, there is no real messaging and i think it will be hard to find a communications professional who wants that job. >> shannon: it has been a matter of weeks since he tapped general kelly for chief of staff. he is not managing the president but managing the staff. that's what he will do. but what do you see as far as his role regarding the events of the last few days, the president getting off message during that infrastructure presser yesterday taking the bait and the questions. do you think general kelly is playing a role in those decisions or is he more focused on the staff side and letting the president be the president?

>> looks like he is more focused on the staff side. apparently the president was going to stick to infrastructure and did the impromptu q and a with reporters and undid what he tried to do with his comments monday and footage of general kelly standing off to the sidearms crossed looking down looking rather dismayed about what he was seeing from his boss. everybody thinks that john kelly is a patriot. he is there in some ways because he would like to avoid catastrophic decision making coming from the white house and he sees it as a patriotic duty to help do that. no question he is frustrated by what he has seen and he is frustrated with his inability to control the president. he agreed to take the job apparently without any conditions on the president tweeting but he asked to see the tweets and he asked to have some input. if he has had that input,

nothing has changed. both with the president's tweeting and with the president's broader sort of ad hoc communications. >> shannon: there is a lot of speculation how general kelly feels about steve bannon. there are calls for his firing. the president was asked about that yesterday. here is what he said about steve bannon. >> i like there bannon. he is a friend of mine. but mr. bannon came on very late, you know that. i went through 17 senators, governors and won all the primaries. mr. bannon came on later than that. he is a good person. not a racist. he gets unfair press. we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. he is a good person and the press treats him very unfairly. >> shannon: "the new york times" said mr. trump has sent mr. bannon to an internal exile and has not met face-to-face

for over a week who was a fixture in the office. what do you make about whether he stays or goes? >> good question. i've talked to people who have had conversations with steve bannon about his potential departure. whether it is something he wants to do on his own or whether it's something that would be forced upon him. "the new york times" reported yesterday his departure doesn't seem imminent. the real question is the character of this white house. the president said steve bannon wasn't with him very long on the campaign but there was great overlap between the kind of nationalist and populist thinking. he was running breitbart news at the time. he called it the platform for the alt right. so nobody should be surprised we're seeing what we're seeing from the president given he takes advice from mr. bannon.

>> shannon: nancy pelosi has called for him to be fire but one white house official said it may be the best thing to happen to steve bannon. >> no question that was meant to keep steve bannon in place because she likes him as a punching bag. >> shannon: all right, steve hayes, always good to see you. thanks. >> bill: meanwhile republican senator corey gardner out of colorado facing blowback over the course of three town halls he held yesterday and some tough questions about president trump east new comments in charlottesville. jonathan hunt watching it. it got wild quickly. what happened. >> three town halls in all. the crowd fired up at each of them. nowhere more so than in lakewood, colorado, the last of senator gardner's town halls where he was repeatedly asked about president trump's

comments and ongoing comments and changes in position on the violence in charlottesville. listen to the senator here. >> the president should have immediately denounced the bigotry and hatred we saw in charlottesville. what he did today goes back on what he said yesterday. that's unacceptable. the president was wrong to do that. >> the senator then found himself having to defend the republican party against accusations it is reiff with racism. listen again here. >> republicans are not -- they absolutely are not but almost all racists are republicans. really embarrassing to stand next to. >> there are people who are going to agree with you and disagree with you. i hope we in this country don't believe with a broadcast that they're all racists. >> it would appear a safe bet,

bill, that there are going to be a lot more town halls that get rowdy like this in a lot of politician's futures over the next days and weeks. >> bill: this town hall was a lot more than just charlottesville, jonathan, right? >> yeah. we've seen this before. a lot of the concern among voters is about the affordable care act and the repeal and replace failure. and senator gardner got questions -- rowdy ones about that too last night. listen here. [inaudible question] >> i'm trying to answer the questions. if we could just have a chance to answer the questions we'll have a great conversation. again what we have to do in this country is not shout each other down but find ways and work in a bipartisan way. >> we've seen professional protestors at these kind of

events before. i wasn't there personally so i can't vouch for what kind of people were asking these questions but our very experienced producer was. she says her impression was that these were real voters, real constituents, not professional protestors and faith's reporting backed up by respected journalists with publications like the denver post. this seems real, genuine anger among genuine voters. >> bill: we'll see what happens next and where it goes. thank you, sir. >> shannon: attorney general jeff sessions heading to miami today to praise the city about its decision to drop its sanctuary city policy. steve harrigan is joining us live from there. what do we expect to be the focus of the attorney general's speech there today? >> the attorney general will speak at 3:00 p.m. at the port of miami today likely to talk about the rise in violent crime in sanctuary cities and also likely to praise and offer

endorsement of miami-dade county officials who reversed the sanctuary city policy here in effect since 2013. since january of this year people held in county jails who have suspicion of immigration violations can be held up to 48 additional hours to allow immigration officials to check their immigration status. that's something new and miami-dade the first major city to make that reversal, shannon. >> shannon: what's been the response, the backlash of the move by miami officials in moving this way? steve, did we lose you? all right. we'll move on to our next story, steve, thanks so much. we'll try to get back to him on that. breaking news. a desperate search underway for the crew aboard an army chopper that crashed off the coast of hawaii. the latest details on that next. >> bill: a stunning report released from the state

department showing the depravity of the north korean regime. how kim jong-un is cracking down on the religious people in his country. >> shannon: days after violence broke out in virginia baltimore removed confederate statue in the dark of the night. we'll debate. >> people have driven by statues for decades and never thought them. now they've become a political symbol. if it represents the racist past they'll be able to say that has to go too.

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>> bill: there is a desperate search underway for the crew of an army helicopter that crashed in the ocean off the coast of oahu. two blackhawks conducting nighttime training exercises when communication was lost with one of them. authorities saying a debris field has been spotted just off the far western point of the island. there were five crewmen on board when the aircraft went down. that story is developing at this hour. >> shannon: the regime of north korea is punishing its citizens who engage in religious practices. including executions, torture, beatings. state department saying 120,000 political prisoners were believed to be held in prison camps under horrific conditions. many for religious reasons.

let's bring in ralph peters, strategic analyst. good to see you, colonel. no surprise it should be to any of us but the extent and brutality of what they are doing to people because of their faith it seems in line up with the rest of the way this dictator operates. >> indeed it does. i think many americans don't really understand how richly rooted christianity is in korea. it is thriving in the south. in the north the government has tried hard for decades to suppress it but faith is powerful. faith -- religious faith can be the greatest tool, the most rigorous, robust tool against totalitarian regimes and they're trying to tamp down or exterminate christians. it goes beyond korea that report issued by the state department. we're seeing really an age -- a new age of christian martyrdom

around the world. in terms of sheer numbers the great age of christian martyrs isn't 2,000 years ago or 500 years ago, it is here and now today. it has been going on for a century beginning with the armenian genocide and we saw the holocaust, an attempt to exterminate jewish people and why? because dictators, authoritarian figures, fanatics understand that religion has incredible staying power. i always hear in washington, you know this city very well. people are uncomfortable talking about religion or islam or anything else. i point out to people that the five great religions of the world today, hinduism has survived so long we don't know when it started. judaism 3,000 years old. buddhism, christianity, 2,000 years old. islam 1400 years old. think of the entire

civilizations that have risen and fallen across the centuries and religions are still there. dictators see religion as a primary threat to their authority and regime. >> shannon: do you think things have cooled off a bit as it appears in the surface in north korea. the president tweeted kim jong-un made a wise decision. the alternative would have been catastrophic and unacceptable. him backing off threat to basically release a ring of fire on guam. >> for now we have an intermission, an interlude between the acts. that's a good thing. anything that cools down the tensions is welcome. we're a long way from the end of this play. china again is, as always, is playing two sides of this. they're sort of feigning cooperation with us. the reason china is even

appearing to crack down on north korea in trade isn't because it fears north korea. it seems them as an ally but rather president trump signed a memorandum looking into the chinese theft of intellectual property. that scares the chinese. they have stolen hundreds of billions of dollars in u.s. intellectual property. that's how they boosted their economy to the point where it is so competitive today. it's a complicated world. but there will always be martyrs for their faith and there will always be dictators that our country has to deal with. >> shannon: another hot spot in iran where they're talking about walking away from the iran nuclear deal. the president there saying this, the new u.s. officials should know the failed experience of sanctions by their previous governments to come to the negotiating table. if they want to try those experiences again iran will

definitely revert to a more advanced situation than it had before the negotiations, not in a matter of weeks or months but in a matter of days or hours. colonel saying they can ramp their nuclear up to far beyond what we thought it was within hours? >> they're starting to sound like north koreans. they can ramp their program up. not sure it's within hours. the nuclear deal, obama and kerry struck with iran was so full of holes and weak and especially weak on inspections. that said, the iranian threat. i love it. if you don't do what i want i won't eat this piece of chocolate cake. if the iranians walk away from the deal they have the black hot on in the eyes of the world. the iranians are frustrated that there are further

sanctions on the missile program. the iranian economy is hurting. they want more money for their military and revolutionary guards and they're very frustrated because they feel they thought they had us coned with the kerry, obama deal and they find out they don't. that said the iranian parliament still are willing to cut back on popular expenditures in order to fund terrorism abroad. they just allocated another $800 million for the revolutionary guard. they've allocated more funds for their missile program, icbm program. i think there is -- in this troubled, troubled world we may wind up with triggers between us and iran before we do with north korea. >> shannon: let's hope not in either case. thank you very much. >> bill: 20 past the hour now. there is no winner in a key senate race. a republican primary is up for grabs. a closer look at what that race

might be telling us today. also conservatives outraged over a cbs news report claiming that iceland has almost entirely eradicated down syndrome. the problem for pro-life supporters, the nation did not use medicine. that's next. >> i think life will be beautiful if they continue down this path of being so intolerant to the degree of trying to snuff out the life of those who maybe do not look like the subjective view of someone that would equate to perfection. whoooo.

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for the state's third congressional district. funds from out of state groups. >> i have a message to those pacts and special interests, this is my town, this is my district, go home, you wasted your money. i'm so proud that we did it the right way and the reason is this had to be a different campaign because i want to be a different congressman. >> shannon: mayor curtis is seen as a favorite to fill the seat left empty after jason chaffetz resigned. strange will meet moore. we're live in birmingham, alcantara -- alabama. republicans are sending two

different candidates. >> you have the establishment wing of the republican party and the populist wing. roy moore is a favorite among social conservatives within the republican party. he told his supporters last night that he believes god played a role in his decision to run. >> without god we will never return to the greatness we were meant to have. we must be good again before we can be great. and we will never be good again without god. god is the author of our goodness. >> alabama's former chief justice faces a runoff with luther strange, appointed to fill jeff session's vacant seat in february. the winner of the september 26 primary runoff will face democrat doug jones, a former u.s. attorney who easily passed the 50% threshold needed to win the democratic primary outright. >> bill: you have a divided

republican vote last night. is there a way to understand who has the advantage now? >> you look at luther strange, his advantage is that he has the support not only of president trump but also the republican party establishment. but in today's electoral climate establishment support can be a mixed blessing. >> there is still a bunch of republicans who don't like the way he was appointed to the position and they may hold that against him. but those are basically businessmen republicans who will have trouble supporting moore. >> his followers of loyal and vote but they may have benefited from low voter turnout overall in yesterday's contest. now it's down to a two-man race the republican vote is less diluted and see if it translates into voter interest after you have two very

different candidates facing each other in a head-to-head competition. >> bill: birmingham, alabama, thanks. >> shannon: family, friends and strangers gathering today to remember heather heyer, the victim of the charlottesville car attack. people are beginning to file in to remember her. yet another city removing confederate monuments and the threat of protests causing many, including the president, to ask whether erasing our complicated american history is the answer to handling this tough situation. our panel debates that next. >> president trump: will we take down statues to george washington how about thomas jefferson. are we going the take down the statue? he was a major slave owner. now are we going to take down his statue? let's take a look at some numbers:

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heather heyer was killed when a car plowed through a crowd of protestors on saturday. friends and family remember her as a strong woman who spoke out against inequality and urged others to be active in their communities. >> she loved everybody. she didn't one color or the other color, she loved everybody, you know? she was a good person all the way around and i want to see good come out of her death. if that's what it takes, you know, for people to come together and stop the hating over this part of the history. >> shannon: we are joined from charlottesville, virginia. the service starts in about an hour or so. what has been the turnout been so far? >> people started to line up outside the theater at 9:00 a.m., two hours before the ceremony begins and the line

went down this area we're standing now, the mall. they started letting people go in 20 minutes ago. most people have made it inside. many of the people here are wearing purple. that's because it is heather's favorite color and something her parents asked people to do when they came to this memorial today. she grew up in this area and lived and worked here as an adult in the city. today this city will begin to try and say goodbye to her. higher decided to protest the white supremacist rally with a few friends. she was walking across the street when the car rammed her and dozens of other protestors. >> she always stood up for what she believed in. she liked to make you laugh. she is a warm soul and believed in equality and she didn't want hate. >> 19 others were injured in the attack. >> shannon: all right, we heard from her stepfather there.

so eloquent saying he wanted some good to come of this loss and talking about possibly this ending some of the hatred between these two sides. you are speaking to friends of hers as well. how are they remembering her? >> they're saying the exact same thing. spunky, liked to make people laugh and she always stood up for what she believed in. i spoke to a bunch of people waiting in line. one person had lived near her and grown up in the same community. i remember her as a kid being like she is now. someone who stood up for what she believed in. we spoke to a few friends at a vigil they had for her on sunday night and two of them were actually with heather when the attack happened. they said simply this shouldn't have happened to her. heather shouldn't have died but at the same time they didn't want her death to be in vain. for her she was a person who loved other people and they want people to look at her photo and think of love and they want -- they really want people to remember that she stood up for what she believed

in and didn't like seeing other people being treated unfairly or inequal or hating each other. it is interesting james fields junior is charged with the crime. here that's not a name anyone is saying. the focus is on heather heyer and her life and how she lived up until that day and that day. >> shannon: as it should be as we hear the strains of "amazing grace" behind you there. >> bill: we'll watch that in charlottesville as they pay their respects to heather heyer. the push to remove confederate monuments gaining momentum by the day and criticism, too. crews in baltimore removing four statues around the city after the council there passed a resolution calling for the destruction of the monuments. other cities are following suit and more protest rallies are expected. the governor of maryland, a republican supports that move as well.

complicated history we have in this country and now we're trying to figure it out. the president yesterday at trump tower said this. >> president trump: so this week it's robert e. lee. i notice stonewall jackson is coming down. is it george washington and thomas jefferson the week after? you have to ask yourself where does it stop? >> bill: so where does it? >> it stops when we have the time to heal heather and we mourn heather's family but at the end of the day the conversations we need to have regarding grace is a conversation we keep on delaying and i think there is no room for nazis in my america. there is no room for white supremacists in my america. i believe my president believes that. but i think he probably picked the wrong time to have a broader conversation about race and a broader conversation about some of these protestors,

violent protestors on the left and the right. but it is a conversation we clearly need to address now. >> bill: it appeared he condemned the right on monday and condemned the left on tuesday. richard, how are you seeing this now? >> i'm not sure if that was a broader conversation we saw. i think there is reason why there is out rage. let's rewind to friday night. friday night we saw 400 to 500 white men carrying tiki torches down an american street. it took us back to the 40s, 50s and 60s in the african-american community where the tiki torches led to crosses in black people's front yards and the bombing of the 16th street baptist church in birmingham. it invokes fear for african-american. and swastikas invokes fear for

jewish. the president missed the mark yesterday bigly in his words. i'm not sure how he comes back from this. >> bill: the constitution gives them the right to be there. i know you understand that. >> absolutely. >> bill: this takes us to a broader conversation, gentlemen. i want our viewers to know what is happening in various cities on the map since charlottesville. louisville, lexington, baltimore, jacksonville, gainesville. they will removing or begin to remove monuments. 60 confederate symbols have been removed as well. i think this is the tip of this issue. when you consider 718 confederate monuments and statues remain 300 of which are in georgia, virginia, north carolina. where does it go, where does it stop? where are we headed >> we can't get rid of those symbols fast enough. i'm a westerner. >> bill: take them all out?

>> we fought a war and successfully, the north won and said we'll stop slavery and be united against this. why have these symbols that are offensive to one segment of the community and also offensive to the broad sector of the community? >> according to the president it's a local decision. >> i believe it should be a local decision but let's make sure the vast locals participate. the vast locals believe these symbols are symbols of love. they're sim -- symbols of hate. i think when we get the locals involved that's positive. >> there are places for the civil war in museums and textbooks but let me contradict the president how far will we go? this is not about george washington and thomas jefferson. they lived in a country where slavery was legal. when we decided we were going

to have a civil war we made a choice as a country to say we're rejecting slavery as an institution in in country. anybody who stood for that and fought for slavery are unamerican. abraham lincoln made that very clear. to have those statues honoring those individuals creating monuments for them and celebrating them, that's unamerican and that's why these statues must come down not tomorrow, next month or next year, they must come down today. >> bill: there will be another rally somewhere in some town at some time. perhaps even this weekend. here in our nation's capital today you have a push from lawmakers saying the confederate statues and capitol hill should be removed immediately. which brings us back to the original point. where are we headed in this dialogue and who is going to address it if it's not done at the local level? >> this dialogue is important.

i think the president took steps to talk about this dialogue during the campaign. you have president obama who took steps during his term to talk about the dialogue of race. we need to have it more often. we haven't healed from part of significant part of american history but we have to heal. ignoring it and kicking it down the can won't solve it. >> bill: my sense to both of you and you both understand it well, it is a process. and the history is tangled, richard. >> it is a process and it is tangled. i have to make this clear and you've heard others on this channel say this. i don't think the president's language what you heard yesterday from him and saturday is helping in the healing. i only think what he is doing is putting in a very deep wound in america and it is only making it worse and helping to divide and causing more division in this country and that's what is problematic and why people on the air cried on "fox & friends" this morning because it's a delicate issue and this president is only

making it worse. >> bill: we need more than six minutes for this topic, would you agree? >> agree. >> shannon: new outrage from conservatives over a report that one country claims it's virtually eradicated down syndrome but how they've accomplished that that has proper lifers very angry. >> we can help them be less fearful about speaking proudly about those in our lives who bring so much joy into this world if only we would give them that chance. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. and fragmented care- stop getting in the way of patient recovery and pay attention. every single one of you is on our list. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier,

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termination rate reflect about icelandic society? >> i think it reflects a heavy handed -- >> shannon: new outrage showing down syndrome has nearly disappeared for nearly a 100% abortion rate for those carrying down syndrome. a actress says it isn't eliminating down syndrome, it is killing everybody that has it. your response, big difference? >> iceland is not eradicating a disease but a people and cbs is celebrating that fact. this is troubling. when you have two or possibly three out of a population of 300,000 being born with downs, this is moving toward a utilitarian view of life.

tomorrow it's children's with downs. then it's middle age people with diabetes. where does it stop? >> shannon: we have a quote from one of the counselors who works at the hospital. they admit testing is not foolproof because there are occasionally people that have a down syndrome baby that weren't expecting it. that raises the questions about whether there are babies that don't have downs are being aborted because their mothers are told they have downs. this is what we hear from one of the counselors. we don't look at abortion as a murder. we ended a possible life that may have had a huge complications preventing suffering for the child and family. that's more right than seeing it as a murder. that's so black and white. life isn't black and white. life is gray. she said mothers have a right to choose what their life is going to look like. >> look, here in the united states unfortunately we have a problem not to this degree but we still see a large number of

pre-natal tests that come back positive and as you pointed out they aren't 100% accurate and what happens? these mothers abort these babies. these are individuals that can gain education, they can vote, work in society. they bring happiness to families and to society. and to say that they should be eliminated because they have -- potentially have downs is troubling. there is something bigger here. when we look in iceland in particular. those age 25 and below according to gallup don't believe god created the earth. if he didn't create the earth he didn't create human life. what gives life value is created in the image of god. when you lose that moral foundation anything is possible. what happened in the last 20 years in iceland we've gone from a population to 90% believe in god to below 50%. the result of a secularization from society where religion is

pushed from policy making. america is not far behind. every human being what test may show has value because it's created in the image of god. that has been a fundamental understanding in our society in this country going back to the very beginning. >> shannon: i want to play sound from sarah palin talking about she was fearful when she found out she was having a downs child and how that has turned out. >> i can certainly understand why a mother, when receiving that news that their child may have down syndrome would be so full of fear. i was full of fear and i had to really be brought down to my knees and ask god to change my heart and prepare my heart and my eyes and my understanding of the purpose in my son's life. and he certainly answered those prayers because the minute that trig was born the fear went away. >> i understand that. my wife and i had our five

child when we were 45 years old and encouraged my wife to take the test to see whether or not the baby had downs. she was a candidate for that because of her age. we said no. when i was in the legislature worked on this. many insurance companies were denying coverage to mothers whose babies tested positive on these inaccurate tests. it comes back to the inherent value. every human life has value because it's created in the image of god. >> shannon: good to see you. thanks for weighing in. >> bill: this is a somber day, charlottesville, virginia, police -- people lining up for hours to attend memorial ceremony for the life of heather heyer, the 32-year-old killed when a man drove a car into a crowd of protestors on saturday. that service begins in moments and we will take you there live. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals.

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>> bill: so the first trade talks underway. reps from the u.s., canada and mexico working to update the north american free trade agreement. jeff locke live in part let, illinois. who is getting the short end of the deal on this so far, jeff? >> there is always winners and losers, bill. there have been industries in the u.s. have that benefited and some hurt. taken as a whole the president is right. the trade deficit with mexico has been growing over the course of the past several years since nafta was implemented. last year it was more than 64 billion, an increase over the previous year which was an increase over that previous year. but if you look at it more closely, the industry that most has caused that deficit has

been the auto industry. the trade deficit autos alone 74 billion dollars. if you took that out actually we would be running a trade surplus with mexico of $10 billion. so that's really where the focus needs to be if they want to make any progress. >> bill: someone must like nafta then right now. which one or who? >> well, that's why we're on a farm today, bill. you know, farmers have long been free traders because it opens up markets to their commodities, their corn, their soybeans, their wheat and the rest and the corn growers association has put out a statement on this potential renegotiation of nafta. i read it to you because it's pretty dramatic. today agriculture is experiencing the fourth year of downturn. i can't stress enough say the corn growers how important export markets are to our ability to stay in business.

so you will get farm states very concerned about tampering with nafta and closing those markets off. i tell you, the important thing to note about this, whatever they agree to, congress has to pass on it. this administration has not had a stellar record when it comes to getting congress to go along with its initiatives. >> bill: back here to the hill. great to have you on today out of illinois. thank you, jeff. >> shannon: construction worker building a home one minute and the next this happened. ouch. and he lived to tell the tale. >> made my whole family very nervous and i'm sorry about that. but that could happen.

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if you could find a buddy to help me out here. my wife said, what did you do? >> shannon: he had open heart surgery to get the nail out. time to get some lottery tickets for that guy. >> bill: shannon, i'll see you later, "happening now" starts right now. bye-bye. >> jon: we start with a fox news alert, president trump tumbling down on his initial statement on charlottesville, virginia. the president saying again yesterday that both sides are to blame with a deadly violence this past weekend. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> heather: and i am heather childress joining you once agai again. president trump speaking at a contentious news conference, if you can call it that, and more. he mentioned his plan for an infrastructure project, but that message was lost as the president fielded questions from reporters on charlottesville, of course, and suggested that