♪ >> look at that, we are now at 1 million. thanks to you. >> you are responsible for that. >> have a great one, everybody. >> bill: good morning, everybody, steve bannon is speaking out in a rare interview this morning, the white house chief strategist slamming white supremacist, as well as opponents with in that the administration, reporting that he may be the next one to leave the west wing, as we come to you this morning. shannon, good morning to you. >> shannon: good morning to you, i am shannon bream. bannon dismissed what he called f no nationalism, saying that these guys are a collection of clowns, bannon said, they are wetting themselves, putting the squeeze on china, good morning,

brian, what more did mr. bannon have to say? >> good morning, it really a shocking interview, our two white house correspondence confirming this morning that the president's chief strategist had this conversation with a left wing in a magazine called, who has not been friendly to the president, he went off the record, it is a shocking explanation for a number of reasons, and given also scaramucci was fired ten days into the job after making vulgar comments in an interview that he too thought was off the record, and steve bannon was chief executive editor of breitbart news for several years. also, giving context to this conversation, there have been lots of reports and rumors that the president has been thinking about firing steve bannon, a lot allotted due to infighting and perhaps leaks, and given the fact that he could be losing his job, this conversation is also

more surprising, but nonetheles nonetheless, he spoke to this reporter yesterday over the telephone, and he said this, undermining the president's strategy in north korea, there is no military solution to the threats, forget it, until someone guarantees that people in -- don't die, there is no military solution, they got us, then he went on to attack far right elements of the republican party, he said ethno-nationalism, it's a fringe element, i think the media plays it up too much, these guys are a collection of clowns, he added, and then in a separate interview with a "new york times," it was unclear whether he thought he was on or off the record, he went on to say that he welcomes democrats and the left wing talking about race, while the right-wing can concentrate on the economy, he said "the race identity politics of the left want to say we are all races,

tear down more statues, give me more, i can't get enough of this." all of this while he also talked about his strategy, saying that china is really the chief adversary to the united states, and how he wants to get into a trade war with china, he detailed that, and he also detailed his infighting with the chief economic advisor, we are still getting more reaction this morning. >> shannon: all right, so a slew of ceos a resigned, they say overreaction to charlottesville, what now? >> writes, be it manufacturing and strategic policy form, they had about two dozen ceos who were there in part to influence the president on economic polic policy, after saturday's comments and charlottesville, half of the ceos left the manufacturing council,

yesterday, campbell's soup and a gnc also decided to leave the manufacturing council, calling the president's comments to unambiguous about racism, so then ultimately the president tweeted, saying that he was going to shut down down the col entirely, and in the tweet, he said rather than putting pressure on the business people, i am ending both, thank you all, this comes also to days after the president said that he had many, many ceos lined up to take these positions, obviously this does not look good for a president who has a really camping and won as the businessman, able to make deals, so we will see how this plays out. >> shannon: thank you, bill. >> bill: you know, these complaints about china's trade practices have been on the back burner, hoping that it would help restrain north korea, bannon now saying that to me, china is everything, and we have to be maniacally focused on that. washington times, with us now.

this is a must-read material to, i think for any watchers of the west wing and what is happening inside the palace entry good, this very interesting stuff, we continue to lose it, the trade war, we are five or ten years away from hitting an inflection point from which we will never be able to recover. analyze what you're reading for this. >> indeed, it is absolutely fascinating, and pretty shocking development, but i don't know how entirely off script it is, because if you look back at the campaign that donald trump or ran on, he ran a very much anti-china campaign, to the point where if you remember, it was like a concert, where people would call out china, china, there is so much of which the media missed about the term campaign from the beginning,

what it had to do with the loss of manufacturing, and this concern about china, and so while it is absolutely fascinating and it certainly seems to be in a little bit rogue it, i don't think that's that message -- i think that message is very much what donald trump is focused on. >> bill: just one more thing in regard to trade wars or trade policies in china, versus north korea, how to use one against the other, et cetera, he said this is a five's that i fight every day here, we are still fighting, and gary cohn, goldman sachs lobbying, he continues, we have to do this, but to the apparatus is going crazy, don't get me wrong, he does write every day. and i kind of wondered if that's line wasn't intended for an audience of one, and that is donald trump, because he wants to make the points that -- it donald trump it didn't have a

lot of people that share bannon's worldview, but steve bannon will always have that worldview, and he did long before they began working on this political operation. >> bill: it is thursday, on tuesday, it seems like a week ago, but the president was asked about it and his fate and future, and here it is. >> i like it mr. bannon, he is a friend of mine, he is not a racist, i can tell you that, he is a good person, he actually gets a very unfair press in that regard, but we will see what happens with mr. bannon, he is a good person, and i think the press treats and frankly very unfairly. >> bill: that wasn't an entire stamp of approval. >> no, he wasn't, but it is also what he said to "the new york post" a couple of months ago, and bannon is still with us, so i don't know that that necessarily means that, but this entire year, there is an old saying in washington that politicians -- they campaign in

poetry, and they govern in prose, well, donald trump campaigns and governs all the same way, and i think that it is going to take some time before washington sort of rubs his brain around the style of governing. >> bill: i was reading last night, i thought why now? is this an exit interview of sorts, to deflect away from the present, is he thinking out loud, or those very questions? >> it is a great point, and it makes me wonder, not that this was authorized or even intended to be on the record, but my goodness, we are not sitting here talking about what a despicable racist donald trump is. i don't know, maybe that is an improvement. >> bill: good to have you, charlie. we'll talk to you real soon. >> shannon: 's signs of solidarity and charlottesville, take a look at the beautiful scene from last night.

thousands of it showing up at the university of virginia for a candlelight vigil last night, the crowd then marched through the campus, making for quite a sight to their sec, this is right after the memorial service for heather. organize through word-of-mouth, making an effort to stay off of social media for security concerns. >> bill: also, after saying that he did not think that confederate monuments needed to be removed, he has changed his mind, he is no urging local governments to take them down. he makes this statement. "they have become flash points for hatred, division, and violence. >> shannon: making it clear it will not remove confederate monuments from any civil war battlefield, the department says that they are an important part of the country's history, adding that they serve the purpose of simultaneously informing

visitors about the reason for battles during the civil war, and what a task it would be to try to completely whitewash what happened on those battlefield, the good and the bad. >> bill: you are right about that, of which there are hundreds, if not thousands. we are going to talk more about that coming up later this morning. after all this controversy, mike pence is coming home early from his trip in south america, he will help the present deal with the backlash from the violent response in charlottesville, governor mike huckabee is going to weigh in on that. >> shannon: plus, new reactions to that rare interview from steve bannon, why is he speaking out now? we are going to speak with karl rove about that. >> bill: looking forward to that, and a growing crackdown on so-called century cities, who reports to cooperate with law enforcement, our panel will take that on, and whether or not to there is progress on that front. >> it is a rejection of our immigration laws, and a

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>> backup for the rule of law has broken down, in chicago, i suggest the so-called sanctuary policy, one sad example of that. american lives are victimized,

as a result of sanctuary city policies, whether it be theft, robbery, drugs, assault, battery, even murder. >> bill: that was the ag, jeff sessions, flying to florida, delivering a major speech, slamming century cities, pointing to places like chicago, as an example, of how policies have failed and have led to a growing spike in crime, that is the case he is making there. all right, ned ryan, and pablo manriquez here to talk about this, thank you to both of you, so he said forget it, we don't want to lose the money, we'll concede to your demands, if we detain somebody, we will notify federal authorities, if they are illegal, whether they are convicted or not. i think the bottom line so far is that money talks. >> the other thing that we just have to go back to and understand is that the sanctuary cities are in defiance of the law and harboring illegals, old

that's the government is asking is that they hold onto these illegal criminals for 48 hours, so that the i.c.e. agents can come arrest or deport them, and i think the thing about this, bill, is that you look at what has taken place over the last few years, there is a study about the accountability office, that showed all these criminals, they had been arrested 1.7 million times, and committed 3 million crimes, that is an average of seven arrest and 12 grams per illegal. this is government accountability office, so you look at this and say is this really a good use of our law enforcement? and i think what you're saying is is jeff sessions and other thing for us all, you are in defiance of the law, all that we are asking is that you hold onto these people for 48 hours so that i.c.e. can show up and either arrest them or deport them. see you in the administration is making the case that it is about public safety. >> the police is making the case that it's not about public

safety, a bigot government overthrow of their responsibilities, an organization that represents hundreds of thousands of our men and women in blue, these are people who are typically aligned with jeff sessions, and they are completely against this century city policy that he is trying to uphold. it is a phase two, and that is important, catholic, jewish, evangelical organization, no one is for this because it is an attack on family. >> no, pablo -- >> this is where the real focus is. most americans are in agreement on this, that first of all, they are here illegally, and they are the ones that studies show or committing a lot of these crimes, which by the way, the percentage of violent crimes, ten or 12 or 15% -- this is to protect the law and to protect the american citizens and taxpayers. >> bill: he was at that event yesterday i believe in florida, he put it this way, it is a

question of public safety, above ideology, is that where we are? >> i mean it -- no, it is becoming a question of ideology now, and unfortunately, if you take two buckets, and you fill them with all of the gangs, my bucket is going to be much bigger, these people are not criminals, for the most part, they are very good people. >> bill: do you believe that? >> i do. >> bill: but if the law is saying one thing -- >> so the police are saying another thing. >> bill: how do you defy the law? >> so just from a perspective of the attorneys who are working every day, the people from these faith-based organizations are saying that it is actually not -- a very clearly -- not a violation of century city laws, we get into some deep legal semantics, and i'm saying it is at a very high level, people who

respect to men and women in blue, the police in this country, which we are also of that, they are saying that this policy that jeff sessions is pushing is absolutely -- >> bill: here is the president of i.c.e. talking about this. >> it is actually a -- the merit, and the politicians make decisions not to cooperate about this, if you harbor or conceal, knowingly shield illegal aliens from law enforcement, that is a crime, so we need to find out, are these jurisdictions on the right side of this law? >> bill: he went on to drop a stunning figure, he said 10,000 illegal aliens have re-offended and gone back to jail. if that is even close to being true, that is extraordinary. >> but he goes back to that study i was referring to earlier, that these people, they are reoccurring again, arrested for an average of 12 crimes, you go back, bill, the whole term sanctuary city to me is very

orwellian. they are harboring illegals, they are harboring illegals and favoring them over the law-abiding american taxpayer, that is funding these cities. >> bill: i will let pablo have the last word. >> two things, ned, the term sanctuary is not orwellian, it is christian, and of the funds that they are trying to deny the police officers, who they are trying to take money away from as parts of this, they are endangering the actual physical security. see onto both of you, thank you for your time, i appreciated, chicago, by the way he is suing the state of california as well. so we will be back on this, ned, pablo, thanks. back to shannon. >> shannon: new developments,

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>> bill: well, is saying it is an incredible lead 12 years after the disappearance of natalie holloway, her father is launching a private investigation, it has now led to human remains in a home on the island of aruba, they are now conducting dna testing to see if

it belongs to her. she went missing in may of 2005, she was a high school graduation trip with friends, no one has been charged in her disappearance. >> shannon: charges now filed in a horrific case in texas, ten illegal immigrants were found dead inside a packet tractor-trailer last month, others are still in the hospital, and the suspected driver could now be facing the death penalty. live in our dallas bureau, good morning, casey, i understand that these charges now come from a grand jury decision. >> yeah, exactly, good morning to you, shannon, the indictment from the grand jury came down yesterday in san antonio, these same city where at the end of last month, this semitruck was discovered, jammed with illegal immigrants parked outside of a walmart store. as he mentioned, ten people died, and it dozens more were hospitalized, the fed's say that nearly 40 people were in the back of that semi, with no air

conditioning or fresh air for hours and hours, temperatures outside a sword into the triple digits. james matthew bradley jr. was behind the wheel of that truck, and he was arrested at the scene, this is video of him leaving court, the grand jury indicted him on five different charges, which include illegally transporting immigrants for financial gain, resulting in death, and also conspiracy us to transport immigrants illegally, resulting in death, and as he mentioned, some of those charges that could carry a potential death penalty here, shannon. >> shannon: what has been his response so far? >> welcome as you know from the very beginning that's the driver told investigators that he had no idea humans were on board that truck it, that he had been driving for many hours, he claimed that to the 18-wheeler had been sold and that he was simply hired to transport it from iowa down to brownsville, texas, which is very close to the border, according to the

criminal complaint, bradley was surprised when he heard banging on the truck's walls, he claims that he then stopped and opened the lock to backdoor, and he made the discovery, so it is a situation that to many have been feeling is hard to believe, almost, since those immigrants claimed that they were banging on those walls for help for hours, and they went unanswered. >> shannon: yeah, well this will all have a day in court, and we will learn much more. thank you so much. >> bill: back to the top story of the day, back to that wide-ranging interview between steve bannon and a progressive web site. why the attack against oval office arrivals? why china? why now? we will talk to karl rove for answers on all of that. first, joint chiefs of staff, says that allowing north korea to continue working it to a nuclear attack would be "on imaginal,," but a military

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>> shannon: new reaction to a rare interview from steve bannon, slamming white supremacists with the in the trump administration, and a conversation with a progressive web site, he dismisses what he called ethno-nationalism, saying these guys are a collection of clans, and they said that they are watching themselves. from the deputy chief of staff, good morning carl. so a quote from the american prospect where this original wide-ranging interview that mr. steve bannon said that he thought was off the record, i will let you address that, leaked by his rivals, or he has decided not to change his routine and it to go down fighting? which do you think it is? >> well, hard to say, if he

thought that this was off the record, that is in many ways a more disturbing, he calls up a left-wing journalist and it says that the president is wrong on korea, i am the guy who is leading the fight on china, i am at war with colleagues inside the white house, i am going to dispose of some of my enemies, who views it racist and white supremacists are clowns, i would be a little bit more harsh. and you know, i have got my opponents watching themselves, this is -- if he really thought this was off the record, and he thought he was going to be under the cone of silence, so to speak it, it is even more disturbing that he is sharing this with a left-wing journalist when he knows nothing about it -- he has no previous relationship with, he felt as a senior white house staffer, he could leak that kind of information to somebody on the outside. >> shannon: but do you buy that's it, because this is the guy who ran up breitbart, he is very media savvy, we thought that anthony scaramucci that's,

blew up in his face, do you think that steve bannon knew better, because a lot of people are having a hard time believing that he ever thought of this was off the record. >> i tended to believe that you are right, that he is media savvy enough to know, and less he explicitly says that this is off the record and gets agreement from the reporter, and so let's look at it from that angle, he thinks that he is so full of himself that he thinks that he can diss his colleagues inside the white house and the administration, that he can say on the record that the president is wrong on one of the most important issues facing the country, namely korea, and he can depict himself as the only true believer on the china trade issue, and the rest of his opponents inside the administration as a bed wetter's, and lay out a strategy, and that nothing will happen, this is in a way even more dangerous because it is an affront to the president's leadership, it is to say you

know it, i am bigger than you are, so whether it's is off the record or on the record, it is a pretty extraordinary interview. >> shannon: that leaves me to this piece in "newsweek" ," peoe who are close to the white house or within the white house saying that the president is actually scared of steve bannon, what he would do if you let him go, that he would be out there being a very vocal, a critic against one goes on inside the white house, and the president holds him at arm's length at this point, he may demote him instead of letting him go or letting him resign because there are worries about what he would do if he left the white house, the other day when asked about him, the present said that he is a good guy, he is not a racist, he said we will see what happens to him, do you think that this is a message to the president that you should be scared of me? >> it could be in, it is amazing to me, the president of the united states has to worry about and aid it has to be frightened

of a senior staffer, whose attitude towards the president is so dismissive, and so demonstrably and subordinates, it is very strange, this white house mystifies me on so many levels, but now i understand better why everybody in this white house leaks against each other because apparently the president is willing to tolerate it, here is a man who likes against the president, who says in essence on korea that the president has it all wrong, and that the president shouldn't be paying any attempted to their trying to get a nuclear weapon, he really ought to be paying attention to only one issue, and that is chinese trade, and unfortunately for the president, i, steve bannon, m in charge of that, and i am smiting my enemies, throughout the administration, i mean, it is pretty bizarre. >> shannon: what do you think that general kelly's thinking of this? because the independent reports and not from his mouth, they say that he is not a fan of steve

bannon, how do you think that he feels about of this playing out in the media the way that it has in the last 24 hours? >> like it, if one person can get away with being in subordinates, with picking up the phone and calling reporters, and being incredibly disrespectful either on or off the record about their fellow white house and administration colleagues, if someone can believe that it is up to them to declare to reporters at the president is wrong on an issue, and that they are the only one that is right, that is really dangerous to an organization, it is one thing to have disagreements inside the house, it is another to have someone who says i am going to glory in the fact that i can call a reporter and tell them that everyone else is wrong but to me, and remember one thing, the dash what did he call? these ethno-nationalism, we are talking about neo-nazis, we are talking about kkk members, we are talking about white supremacists who marched through charlottesville, some of them

wearing t-shirts with quotes from adolf hitler, carrying it torches and a chanting slogans, chanting antiblack, anti-jewish slogans, and all that he can say about those people is that they are clowns? they are bigots, they are merchants of hatred, they are people who have no role in our -- should have no role in our political mainstream, and this is a guy who the worst thing that he can say about them is that they are clowns. this is a man who gloried in the fact that he made it the so-called ultra right, he gave them a platform at a breitbart news, it is clear that he doesn't understand how a hate filled these individuals are, and how they ought to be not just simply dismissed as clowns but condemned as what they are, which are racist bigots, who do not represent to the values of our great country. >> shannon: when asked about his connection to them, he said he is not hate white nationalist, he is a nationalist, so that is his explanation.

thank you. >> thank you, shannon. >> bill: fox news alert and now, tensions and fears over north korea remain high, the president of south korea avails a war on the korean peninsula will never happen again. but that is not stopping the pentagon from getting ready for the worse. reporting no life. >> military tensions seem to have deftly definitely diminist arrived here in guam, those can reach pyongyang in about three hours, will be key to wiping out their threats, that's became an issue yesterday in beijing, they told china's president, that's the u.s. is developing a military option to address the threat in north korea, even

though china told >> shannon: that it should not to be an option on the peninsula, the two did agree to deepen military cooperation. >> you and president trump are committed to improvements in our relations, and you have approached us with a great commitment, candor, and we certainly want to deliver results. >> now that will be put to the test when we begin a massive biannual war exercise that to the north considers a provocation, a prelude to work, and in the past, they have used it as a pretext to launch missiles, now that comes as the presidential advisor, steve bannon, calls the current north korean crisis a "sideshow." saying that there is no military solution to the front, forget it, until someone solves the equation that 10 million people in seoul don't die in the first

10 minutes from conventional weapons, i don't know what you're talking about, there is no military solution, they got us. bill, as he referred it to the south korean president to just took office, he did say that there will be no war on the peninsula, however, he did say that north korea is nearing a redline and their ability to deliver that with a missile. >> bill: he had a lot to say, i think you, reporting from guam. shannon. >> shannon: the fbi reopened a search for documents and to that infamous meeting between loretta lynch and president clinton, during the email investigation, one of the attorneys behind that request joins us with new details, plus president trumpet weighing in just minutes ago on the issue of monuments, we'll tell you what he has to say, mike huckabee joins us to discuss that. >> when you talk about tearing down statues in the middle of

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reflect on what the president's argument is, he is essentially saying that to the american people want to have a connection of sorts to their own history. and it to whitewash it or put it in a closet is not sufficient for them. so how do we then it balances, and how do you as a former executive of the state address at india without? >> i am not married to monuments, but they are point to helping us understand our history, some of it is not that pretty and pleasant, some of it we need to look back and say boy, that was a hideous time in our world and our country, but it just to say we are going to tear down everything that offends us, we are going to disassociate with anyone whose life had some very unholy, ungodly evil, sinful things, where does it stop? i mean, al sharpton is calling for the destruction of the jefferson memorial in

washington, you have a pastor in chicago asking that washington park have that statue there removed because it george washington owned slaves, where does it stop? and look at, i am okay that if we want to go through the process of having public meetings and city officials saying we are going to take the statues down, but which we can do, bill, is have anarchists go and just tear down the statues because they are impatient with politicians doing it. that is not -- that is not acceptable behavior, it is vandalism, it is anarchy, and it would be like me saying i don't like abortion clinics, so i'm going to go to them down because i find them offensive, no one would justify that, including me, that is what i feel like we are coming too, it is not a matter of reinterpreting our history, we are bordering on anarchy, having a select group of people tear something down because it offends them personally. >> bill: cory booker, the senator from new jersey, this is

a big topic here in washington, it is coming back now, he sent to this tweet out. i will be introducing a bill to remove confederate statues in the capitol building, we have much work to do, i believe there are six or seven or eight into the hall, i don't know where that's a debate goes, it is coming back now, did you deal with this issue as a governor? >> there was always some controversy over things like confederate battle flag being on display, but you know, to be honest with you, i think that's my home state had a so advanced it to the points that i don't know of anybody who is out there celebrating racism, we had a repudiated at jim crow laws, i stood at the door of the central high school when he closed the door, president clinton and i stood there, we opened the door when the little rock nine came into the thunderous applause of many, my own daughter graduated from central high school, i think so many of us in the south looked back apps that's part of the history, recent history,

that i lived through as a kid, and we are repulsed by it, we repudiated it, we call it sinful and evil because it was, but we learn from it, we grow from it, and i don't think that we learn if we obliterated. and so i guess my concern is that my concern was i was in ste palace of st. catherine, it is this over the top ridiculously ornate palace dedicated to her access, the bolsheviks, when they took over in 1917, they didn't destroy it, end of the reason was because they wanted to remind people why there was a revolution to begin with, and they said all of the people's hard work and money paid for it, so let's preserve it for the people, there is something to be said for looking at our history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and being reminded of that, which we never want to repeat again. >> bill: it is complex, it is tangled, we can all agree on

that, here, elsewhere, all around the world for that matter, the arguments have been made from the president said that this is local decision. do you think that's the case? >> i do, i mean, i think in local communities where the statue has been placed there by city councils, buy it may be state within that's body that is where that decision could be made, look, the tenth amendment makes it very clear that if there is not some federal law that applies, then it should be done by the state, i don't know of a federal law that either memorializes or condemns works of arts or statues, or any type of memorial, and i would trust the people who live in a community to make the decision for themselves, whether a particular statue or monument is offensive, and if it is, than they should take it down. but if the people in that community don't think so, they should leave it. >> bill: there could be hundreds and hundreds of these decisions being made, thank you for being here today,

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>> shannon: new questions about whether facebook is stifling a certain political views, comes after the tech giant shut down a conservative leaning chat room, here with the story, apparently, a lot of this had to do with heat around the election last year. >> yes, so there are new questions about to the stifling of conservative speech, after the internal facebook group was shut down, shortly after the election, the group was called facebook anonymous, and it was

used by conservative employees to speak about their values and support for president trump, when the ceo mark zuckerberg was asked why he shut it down, he said it was because the group became a hotbed for harassment, which is against company policy, so that is the facebook side of the story. >> shannon: we have a little bit more from their head of people, which i think is a very interesting title, like they rule the entire planet, >> he said that it violated our terms of service, to use an authentic identity on the platform, we disabled any anonymous groups and pages and it reminded our people of the places where they can have discussions about issues that matter to them openly or confidentially. so we do have places where you can have these conversations, employees are like -- all of that might be true, but after they shut down this particular group, there is a poster that went up on facebook's campus,

and it said "silenced up but not silence,," so it shows that they are kind of struggling with an internal debate with their employees, some of they may think that they are free speech rights are being infringed upon. which kind of reminds us of the google guy, who was fired after he wrote an internal memo complaining about liberal bias at google and a gender policy. >> shannon: you can understand how employees would be a little bit afraid to speak out because facebook said part of the problem was that they were posting anonymously or under some other identity, so that was part of the problem, but i hear this from people who work there, i have talked to peter about this, there is very much this view that you can have a view, but you better keep it quiet if you want to keep working there. >> not only employees, but people like you and me, these at tech company's control an incredible flow of information, where do people get their information besides fox news is

going to be facebook and google, they are trending section had to be completely revamped last year because there were reports that facebook employees were stifling conservative stories, so some people are saying where there is smoke, there is fire here. even when i tweeted out that we are going to be doing the story, i got people responding saying that they had posted things that were negative about the previous administration, into their accounts were shutdown, i am sure that there is more to that story, but it is clear that people are worried about that. >> so i guess if mark zuckerberg runs for president some day he will have to answer some of these questions. >> shannon: all right, carly, good to see. >> bill: it back to our top story today, steve bannon weighing in on identity politics, and north korea, all of that in a rare interview, so why now? and what does it mean for president trump? that is brand-new, straight ahead. my a1c wasn't were it needed to be.

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>> shannon: steve bannon making headlines with a rare and revealing interview, slamming white nationalists as clans, saying that they can succeed if the democrats just keep focusing on race, i am shannon bream, and bill, there is a whole lot more. >> bill: it there sure is, live in our nation's capital today, president trump's chief strategist opening up in a conversation with a writer for a left-leaning magazine, the former breitbart chairman saying "the democrats, the longer that they talk about identity politics, i got them, i want them to talk about racism every day, if the left is focused on race and identity and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the democrats." >> shannon: here to talk about that is our fox news contributo contributor. so it sounds like steve bannon also talked to "the new york times," they say in an interview, he told them

this, president trump, where does it all end? connects with the american people about their culture and traditions, the race identity politics that to the left wants to say is all racist, just give me more, tear down more statues. say the revolution is coming, i can't get enough of it, he thinks that this is a winning point for the present. >> yeah, i mean look, this is something that they have used focused largely on a steve bannon and the term campaign. they pulled the race stuff, and it's worked well for their campaign, so i don't think that anyone should be surprised that this is where his head is on this stuff, i think it is risky, particularly in light of what we saw in charlottesville and in terms of the kind of incendiary rhetoric and violence that ultimately came about there. >> shannon: he is tweeting about the removal of the statues, in three tweets that he

thinks -- we lose the opportunity to learn from history, these memorials are beautiful, and it hurts our parks and towns where they are taken down, that again reopens this whole conversation, you know that there will be people who will say you shouldn't refer to these as beautiful, and other people say no, that is part of my southern heritage and pride, the president got it right, it seems like this is just reopening the conversation all over again. >> and it is evidence of exactly what he said in that remarkable interview, that this is good, the president is going to keep doing it, steve bannon is often seen as someone who understands the president on an instinctive level, he knows what the president would do or wants to do on a variety of policy issues, and i think we are seeing that play out here as we look at the presence tweets and listen to the words or reads the words. >> shannon: so he went to "american prospect," also apparently to

"the new york times," these people are not fans of a president trump, of the administration, what do you make of this? because we are all kind of armchair quarterbacking this, he personally has told sources i thought it was off the record, elisa "american prospect," people have a hard time believing that, so are they trying to change the conversation, prove that i can go around you, and i have my own power? what do you make of it? >> even if he thought that it was off the record, that's not exculpatory here, undermined some of the president's most important issues, particularly as it relates to north korea, and some foreign policy issues, he either did that on the record, or he was doing it as a leaker, neither one of those is a good look for someone who is thought to be close to the president of the united states, i can't imagine that donald trump would have seen this and been encouraged by it, i have spoken to people who have realized that he is coming to the end of his tenure in the

white house, may be in the next few months, and make sure that his impact is felt as widely and strongly as it possibly can be, that's it maybe this is part of a last hurrah. >> shannon: he is passionate about this, if we don't do something, we are reaching a point of no return, conflicts with other members of the administration come about china, how they are kind of not getting at, he says that this north korea thing is a sideshow, kind of everyone is asleep at the wheel is what he is suggesting, except for him, how much do you think this conversation is about him making his argument to the public about this china issue, maybe he feels like the administration is not kind of on the same page with him, if we go directly to the american people, for what he thinks is at stake. >> i think it is much more aimed at donald trump, i think he knows more than anybody, that donald trump is eager to consume

all media, into the more that this is out here, it will reach at donald trump, maybe this is his way of doing it, it was a pretty striking argument, he said that the united states should be focused maniacally on china and a trade, and that is really the only issue that he is concerned with, and when you think about all of these things facing the country, threats from isis and al qaeda, north korea, iran, all of these things that we have facing us that i would argue are urgent priorities, to see him picking a fight with china on trade, that strikes me as less urgent. to put it gently. >> shannon: he says that if he has his way, it is going to happen, good to see you. >> bill: meanwhile, the house committee, this in response, to deadly violence in charlottesville, heather heier was killed and at least 19

others were injured, the justice department is launching a civil rights issue on that attack it, and senator ted cruz backs that decision. >> what we saw when that young man drove his car into a crowd of people, that wasn't domestic terrorism, that was grotesque. i am glad of the department of justice answered my call into the call of many others to investigate that, and i believe to prosecuted as domestic terrorism because nobody has a right to inflict their hateful views through violence and murder through us. >> bill: at chief intelligence now here. good morning, catherine. >> good morning, congressman mike mccall calls for a hearing september 12 on domestic terrorism, that is defined as an act of violence designed to intimidate the public and promote a political agenda, the

leadership of three departments with direct responsibility with a domestic terrorism are invited, winning for confirmation from elaina duca, newly confirmed christopher ray, and the nations hub will testify or send a deputy. in an interview with nbc news, he said yesterday, that the team is weighing the evidence on whether the suspect's actions, amounts to a hate crime. >> a civil rights violation, this is a hate crime, and there might be other charges that could be brought, so we are working it intensely. on the assumptions that we may well want to prosecute under one of those theories. >> shannon: if it happens, the justice department would be completely separate from any state charges. >> bill: what is the response from democrats on this?

>> well, a hearing it for a september 12th was already on the books and not nearly enough to address charlottesville, the congressman's statement reads and that his response to democrats for hearings on domestic terrorism is completely inadequate, it is an annual hearing that wasn't scheduled prior to the domestic terrorism attack last weekend, talk is cheap, the american people will be judging them up by their action, the congressman said that he hopes that the people would take the opportunity to look at both foreign and domestic terrorism, so we will see how this all shakes out in the next week or so. >> bill: thank you, catherine, from washington. >> shannon: the white house has decided not to let obamacare fail for now, officials confirming that the trump administration will make controversial payments to insurers for the month of august, that is that despite address from the president, live from washington to tell us more.

>> insurers have been asking congress and the administration for that matter for certainty is that they would continue to receive the csr, that is the cost saving -- i want to make sure i get this right, i don't want to mess it up, the cost sharing reduction payments, basically what that does is it reimburses insurers for subsidizing the cost for some of the out-of-pocket costs that are taken on by some and release. now the long and short of it is that we are talking about an awful lot of money here, we are talking about $7 billion on the line, so it is a big win for big insurance, but i the same time, it is also a bus for g.o.p. lawmakers who frankly want to still push for repeal and replace over the finish line, so what gives? let me just to share why this is such a big deal, the administration would like to save that money, stop funding what is a terrible health care law and put it to better use elsewhere, but draining resources will be tricky,

according to the cbo, its analysis as scrapping these subsidies would actually increase premiums on the most popular plans by some 20% next year, and get this, it would swell the deficit by $194 billion over a decade, again, that is according to the cbo, some republicans like mike walker of north carolina for example is criticizing this decision by the administration, but senator of tennessee says that those who buy their insurance in that the individual marketplace deserve a break through, so the long and short of it is simply this, we are talking about august year, they are going to go ahead and let that money roll in, we don't know about september yet, will have to keep an eye on that, by the way, i want to share something that is just coming into fox news, also poised to rule, and this is interesting, they are going to unwind and obama era requirement, that some insurers -- we are talking health insurance plans that they

carry contraceptives, you and i have talked about this in regard to the hobby lobby case, and of course, the supreme court has ruled on that, we'll keep in mind that this is a very big story as well, as the trump administration is a set to make a very big move on repealing a nether obama era rule. >> shannon: we are trying to get more information on that, everyone remembers this and all of the fighting over the last several years, so we will see if we can do that. kevin, good to see you. >> always a pleasure. >> bill: thank you, shannon, fox news alert, the fbi is doing some digging on the infamous tarmac meeting between loretta lynch and bill clinton. >> in those documents, lo and behold, communications between of the fbi and the department of justice, the very document sets the fbi said did not exist were actually produced in the request. if you want to so now we are getting breaking noise, some of the documents that they just

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court, so we have been kind of going by them line by line individual, by named individual, and we found yesterday, one of our attorneys was going through, and he found that one of the names that was not redacted by the fbi, but was an fbi press official, who received an email from "the washington post" about whether the fbi agents and bill clinton security detail coordinated the meeting between loretta lynch and bill clinton on the tarmac in phoenix, the press official contacted that the department -- at the fbi, actually department of justice is now, he is now the head of press for robert mueller's special counsel team. so peter carr was directly involved in this meeting response, and now he is leading the press team for the special counsel investigation, in russi

russia. >> shannon: a lot of these are redacted, i think they want about him may have been redacted as well, were you able to glean many more information, besides his name? you will fight and uncover what a lot of these reductions are. >> yeah, right now, this is what it looks like, where we have peter carr's name, we just know that he received this request and receive this information, the next step is then getting it to watts was his response? how did he respond? and remember, all that we got were email documents, 413 pages of email documents, we also note that they loved making memos, not all of those are protected by privilege, and so we are actually discussions now with the department of justice and the fbi because they have now had a come-to-jesus moment on reopening this investigation, so we are now in conversations, we hope that we don't have to take them to court, but we may just have to. >> shannon: you have been notified by the fbi that they

are going to reopen this, how much more do you expect to get at this point? >> well, if the department of justice could produce about 400, even with some reductions, and let us not we don't think everything, i believe that there are enough people named on this to make these emails, press shops, agents, redacted fbi people, so they were really looking through this on their own, we got such reopening a week after we broke the news, that's the doj had given us this, so they were not acting in good faith, but we will not treated as a situation where they say they are going to cooperate, i expect hundreds more documents. >> shannon: this is key in the fight with the irs, finding out that they are targeting conservative groups, refusing to give them their tax-exempt status, and that's open to congressional hearings and all kinds of other things, and now we get this report saying that

between january 2015 and march march 2016, obama was still in office, during that time, they lets go of many employees, all kinds of bad behavior, and apparently, the irs hiring managers do not have access to the applicant's employment history, with the irs, so a bunch of these people didn't even tell the irs they had been fired by the agency when they reapplied, and were rehired. >> this is a problem, we talk about draining the swamp it is these unelected bureaucrats, people who are thankfully done in november, i will be glad to see him go, we have all of the groups cleared, but this is an agency of that we believe may be incapable of self-correcting, you may have to do away with this, it is so corrupt, so poorly run, and it is such a mess, that you need a complete

overhaul, that it would take congress and president trump working together, this should be one of those examples of bipartisan support, people who are doing things that are illegal on their taxes, getting fired by the irs should not be able to get rehired, and of all places, you would think that the irs would have their information on their own employees. >> shannon: all right, many updates to come from these stories, good to see you. >> will do, thanks, shannon. >> and we are getting more information from the south korean president with a promise to the world this morning, he said they will not be another war on the korean peninsula, but can he guarantee that? we'll take that up in a moment, also, college campuses canceling rallies over fears of violence after charlottesville, but how far is too far before free speech becomes the issue? >> what we can't do, bill, is have anarchists go and just tear down these statues because they are impatient, and it would be like me saying i don't like

abortion clinics, so i'm just going to go tear them down because i find them offensive, nobody would justify that.

>> bill: is south korea's new president is promising that they will never be another war on the korean peninsula, adding that only they can it decided that the military action, words between president trump and a kim jong-un about to their nuclear capabilities, meanwhile, new video of rex taylor send meeting, that is a topic that they are very keen on. fox news contributor, a good day you, what do you make of the

address from the south korean president first? let's start there. >> while, moon and it sort of had to say that, they have their own politics as well, he ran against his predecessor who was essentially kicked out of office on corruption charges, and he ran on reconciliation, as far as extending a hand to the north and avoiding a war at all cost, which would be devastating to south korea, at the same time, he has been working quietly with the u.s. military to put a defense system in place, which the chinese had a post, and he had initially opposed, so yeah, they are doing things quietly behind the scenes, but i was just in japan, speaking with japanese officials, including the new foreign minister, and they are not on the same page with the south koreans, they are adamantly opposed, i asked them if they could live with a

nuclear north korea, before i even got the sentence out of my mouth, they said absolutely not, that is not on the table. so i think we have to put pressure on china, the north koreans and kim especially are very good at dialing up pressure and then dialing it down, it just below that threshold will take action, while at the same time, they are buying time to put their program to full fruition. >> bill: there is another story out today, let's just take a look at that, produced in the 1980s, can likely produce anthrax, smallpox, and play good, now look at, this is something we haven't addressed because the nuclear threat has been so prominent, in war, is it okay to locate or destroy this material? >> it is able to be destroyed by

artillery, while the military option has to be on the table, and the north koreans and chinese have to believe that we will go there, on the other han hand, they could wring the stuff on a city the size of seoul, which is 25 million people, it is bigger than manhattan, and they could do it through their artillery pieces, and i'm not confident that we could get it all in an early strike. this is why china is the key, we have passed u.n. sanctions, like nikki haley just did, lets the chinese have to enforce them, the chinese could choke off the north korean regime economically if it wanted to tomorrow, we just have to change their calculus, that war on the north korean peninsula is worse than other things that's the chinese are afraid of. >> bill: let me just ask you one more thing, one of the things he said is you show me a way how 10 million people don't die within an hour, paraphrasing his comments there, on the military option, which sends a

clear signal that this isn't easy, and it is not perhaps with this white house once either. >> it is not easy, i don't think that putting those kinds of statements out there publicly is helpful because again, what the president it did was told the north korean leader that we are serious this time, unlike the last administration, we will not live with the north koreans are holding the region and holding the united states hostage with nuclear weapons. at the same time, to steve bennett's point, which i wish was made quietly, that is why this has to be the top priority with the chinese, and i disagree that we can go soft on that issue, the chinese are going to essentially make us give on other issues, like trade and the south china sea, in order to take a harder stand on north korea, but we have to turn the screws, and we have to make it painful for the chinese as well, by secondary sanctions, with their companies, that are doing business with north korea,

that is how we got iran to the table, before we had the twerp to make terrible nuclear deal, but before that, they were feeling the pain economically. >> bill: interesting, welcome home from your trip to asia. examination there from jacksonville. >> shannon: bill, republicans as you know are going to return with their sights set on tax reform, could this be the beginning of another setback? plus convicted killer scott peterson speaking out for the first time in more than a decade after the gruesome murder that shocked the country, it is all part of a new documentary on andy. >> i was falling forward, there is no end to this.

>> we cannot let these status quo win. what we are fighting for is too important, and who we are fighting for is too important. we are fighting for what president reagan termed as the greatest special interest of all, the american people. >> bill: and that's from the reagan ranch in california, kevin brady warning republicans that's they must be ready for a knockdown drag out fight when they get ready to come back to work in a couple of weeks here, wisconsin congressman, sean duffy, thank you for your time to be here today, taxes, all of the distractions here in washington, it is all circling overhead, i know paul ryan is talking about taxes next week, i know the president it this week is trying to talk about infrastructure, do we have a same page quotient here? >> absolutely, i think the president and to the congress will understand that tax reform has to get done, and kevin brady

is spot on, we have to make the tax code simpler or fairer, and we have to make america competitive in a global economy, it comes right back to the american people, this is about jobs and opportunity, and upward mobility for americans, so you don't get this done, you still see american companies go overseas, instead of bringing jobs back to america, so i think we are all on the same page, but what is more important, bill, is that you remember the congress, they are back in their districts, they are getting an ear full from republicans and independents who said you told us that you're going to do health care reform, reform, we are going to be into september, and you guys haven't done anything yet, the urge from the american people, when folks are back in august, is is so great, i think you are going to see renewed energy and effort when folks come back to washington to get it tax reform done, health care aside for a moment. >> bill: i can't imagine that

failure is an option, otherwise, your job is in jeopardy. >> listen, and that is what everyone looks at, can i get reelected? my bosses my constituents in california, when people are that angry, that's really shakes a politician, and it is one thing, when you come home, and the rights are angry at you, the people who have helped you from the very beginning, that's really shakes them in their boots and i think what gets them it really motivated to get something done, bill, we cannot forget, democrats have a role to come and say it we can't have the highest tax code in the industrialized world for corporations if we want to be competitive, we have to work together to lower rates across the spectrum, so this is republicans and democrats who have to come together, it is an american mission. >> bill: you know, kevin brady is out there in california, and it was overshadowed by the events here in washington, i am

curious, what do you think about the events of this past week? and how much of a distraction it could be for your agenda. i know you want to move forward, but can you? >> well, listen, you have the media every hour of every day talking about what happened last weekend, and i think that is an important conversation to have, and we can look and say what did the president mess in his statements? what should he have said? but looking forward, looking at last saturday doesn't help us grow the economy, it doesn't help people pay their mortgages, and at donald trump was elected because he is fighting for middle americans, the forgotten men and women in american denmark america, who want to border security, a stronger military, they voted for donald trump for those reasons, and when you get distracted about what happened over the last six days, i think it makes it harder to get people to get

behind a mission and an agenda that is going to help those people to put you in office. >> bill: you are right about it dominating the news agenda, and there is a reason for that, he took a lot of questions on it this last week, and he was very forceful in his answers, which again, just yesterday, the president demanded that the business group, the policy group, what is your feeling on whether or not that is helpful or harmful? >> if we are going to talk about infrastructure, a couple of days ago, than talk about infrastructure, don't take a question about charlottesville. it talk about infrastructure, lets that to be the story, but you are right, we have seen the business council disintegrate, and people bailing and a trump shut it down, but i think that it doesn't affect our ability to get our agenda done, the agenda has always been about the american people. it is not about ceos, and if you look at the ceos of america and wall street, they

supported hillary clinton, they are not part of the trumpet movement. if this is about people from my district who helped him win wisconsin, it is people in my town hall who go listen, president trump is imperfect, and i can see why people are upset with him, but we do some regulation, and to this is what is going to help my family out, please support him, you guys have to find a way to come together and get the agenda accomplish because it is all about my family and my prosperity, so i don't think the ceos -- i think that is part of the distraction, i don't think it will affect the agenda. we have to come together and get the agenda done. >> bill: final question, are they still with this present? >> my constituents? absolutely, do they get frustrated by some tweets and some statements that are imperfect, absolutely, but they look at what he has done and support him. >> bill: thank you for your time, we are out of time, but i look forward to having you come

back, sean duffy from wisconsin. >> shannon: well, the violence in charlottesville, virginia, for leading some colleges to canceling conservative speakers at campuses. it's that the city on edge, now a fight to keep one of the men convicted into the sniper attacks behind bars. >> everyone lives their life differently, we suspended football games and your kids couldn't play outside, and it is so fundamentally something that change the way that we live in this community.

>> bill: a judge of holding it back-to-back sentences for one of two men convicted in the 2002 bell weight sniper killings, that string of shootings that left six people dead and put the entire washington, d.c., area on edge. state attorney john mccarthy arguing that his original

sentence should stand. >> anybody who lives here in october 422 or 23 days, life was never the same, and historically, if you know what was happening here initially when it took place in october 2002, it was almost a year to the date after septembee thought we were under a terrorist attack it. >> bill: what's a time that was, malvoy was was a teenagert that time. his accomplice was executed in 2009. >> they have a right to be heard, there was a concern that many of us in the free speech community have come of this new mantra, nancy pelosi said yesterday said she wanted a permit review of a group appearing in san francisco for public safety concerns, what are those? and who makes those decisions?

>> shannon: on the story it last night, calling it a question by some college campuses to cancel appearances by conservative groups, fearing a situation that they say would be similar to charlottesville, is it hate speech protected under the constitution? and a word, yes. by the way, rachel campos-duffy, good morning to you. >> good morning, shannon. >> shannon: all right, so i found this very interesting, there is a recent poll that asks should the government to be to shut this down? 40% of millennials said yes, leslie, are they not familiar with the first amendment? >> obviously not, however, the first amendment only go so far, as a judge, i love the constitution and have argued over issues of the first amendment in the past, this is something that most people agree on because we know that you

can't yell fire in a crowded theater and be protected, with your freedom of speech, however, hate groups have historically it protested, there was a historical landmark ruling in illinois, which had a large number of holocaust survivors and neo-nazis marching in the streets, and ironically enough, the attorney that represented the neo-nazis was jewish. he fought for that freedom of speech for them, so we have a long history of people with hate speech margin, however, it is for public officials and law enforcement, it is their duty to protect the community, so it is a balancing act. >> shannon: when you cross that some was his which is protected, but i think about the westborough baptists from a few years ago, we know what they are assigned say, we can't even show their signs on the air, and the court said wholeheartedly, yeah,

those are the people who have protection, it is not speech that we all like that needs protection, it is the stuff that we find most, most offensive. >> absolutely, and i think the question that american is to grapple with right now isn't do we want our public square, and our country to operate the way that a college campus like berkeley does? where the administrators or the loudest voices on campus decide what speech is acceptable, and just as importantly, what speech deserves police security? because if you look at nancy pelosi statement which we looked at earlier, they are now bringing up public safety issues as the new excuse for censoring speech, so i think that is a question we need to ask ourselves, and frankly, i grew up watching the kkk, who frankly, i think our idiots, clowns, are dumb, and you see all the time, or at least in the past, even police officers who

are of a different race protecting their rights to speech, i think what is happening right now, shannon, is we are giving a lot of attention to these ridiculous kkk people, we should protect their right to speech, but we should ignore them and not give them the attention, but we need to protect our right to speech, and it is a shame that millennials have lost touch with this important cornerstone of who we are. >> shannon: they just may not be being taught. this is all over twitter, the present saying that this is being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments, you can change history, but you can learn from it. robert e lee stonewall jackson, who is next? washington, jefferson, so foolish. also the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, parks, and towns, will be greatly missed and will never be replaced.

then we also have a tweet from cory booker, many people think that he is gearing up for a presidential run, this is just one step, we have much work to do. so, leslie, where do we draw the line when it comes to hiding history? >> well, first of all, if we just look at our own history, when we invaded iraq, and we claimed victory, one of the things that are military did was help with the iraqi military to tear down a statue of saddam hussein, and this is just one example, statues of lenin after the fall of the former ussr, and communism there, these are examples of when you have an enemy that has attacked your country, you win that battle, you tear that set you down, and by the way, most of the confederate statues throughout the south of that are put up for many years after they lost the war. they are historically perceived

as an enemy, of the united states, and what we stand for, i do feel that history needs to be taught, not only in a classroom but in a museum, and maybe there is even a park not memorializing or commemorating what these people did, but making history known, and to make it part of government offices is offensive to many people, especially african-americans. >> shannon: a lot of people are asking why now after so long? good to see you both. >> bill: a high-profile convicted killer speaking for the first time from behind bars, scott peterson, who sits on death row, what he is saying about the murder of his wife and unborn baby in a new tv dock you series. only during crabfest. now this is seafood. and hurry in to enjoy our new crab melt part of our seafood lover's lunch for just $9.99.

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>> bill: a scott peterson now breaking his silence for a documentary on a knee, he was staggered by the verdict where he was convicted of murdering his wife and her unborn child, the 27-year-old mother to be disappeared in at 2002, peterson has always maintained his innocence, so what is he saying now? she is live now in los angeles. claudia. >> well, good morning, this case rock to the sleepy town of modesto, california, and it became a media sensation, lacey peterson, young, beautiful, eight months pregnant, goes missing on christmas eve of, her husband was having an affair, and it despite virtually no forensic evidence, he was sentenced to death by lethal injection, now for the first time, since he gave several interviews in it in 2003, he is

speaking publicly about the cas case, he proclaims his innocence, for a new a&e program, called the murder of laci peterson, speaking from san quentin, he says that a lot of people saw his wife, and a lot of people dropped the ball. >> there are so many witnesses who saw her walking in the neighborhood after i left. the cops just never followed up. the police failed to find my family. >> and in 2004, when the jury found him guilty, scott said that he was shocked. >> i just had this weird sensation that i was falling forward, forward and down, and there was going to be no end to this falling forward and down. there is nothing to land on.

and i was staggered by it. i had no idea what was coming. >> scott peterson is currently appealing his conviction, here is his most recent mug shot, he doesn't have any infractions from behind bars, and also that he uses the exercise yard and still gets lots of mail. he is one of many inmates on death row in san quentin, it is still a source of fascination for money even after all of these years. >> claudia, thank you, fascinating look there. >> shannon: will come of the white house is now responding to steve bannon's a wide ranging interview with a left-leaning web site, eric coverage continues on what's effects this could have on the chief strategist job.

>> shannon: it is one of the more wild first pitches to see. the ball hits below the belt.

he took it all in stride, even posting a picture saying "the moment of impact." >> bill: that was a called strike. and it hurt. we'll see you later everybody, "happening now" starts now, bye-bye. >> jon: a fox news alert, the president's chief strategist steve bannon is backpedaling after a bombshell interview and when she spoke out supremacist protesters and undercut president trump's position on north korea. fox news now learning that steve bannon is saying he believes that interview with the american prospect magazine was off the record. aren't they all? >> heather: another one. >> jon: good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> heather: i'm heather childers. he did not hold back at all. in the interview, he discussed some plans to "neutralize his