>> another busy friday. thank you for joining us. "america's news hq" starts now. >> sandra: breaking fuse from the white house. fox news now confirming the departure of chief strategist steve bannon. hello, everyone. i'm sandra smith. let's get right to it and bring in our chief white house correspondent who has followed bannon from the very beginning. john roberts. john, how did this all go down? >> reporter: sandra, good afternoon to you. it did not all go down this morning. it wasn't something that suddenly happened today. this has been in the works for some time. we have heard, via "the new york times" that steve bannon may have tendered his resignation as early on as august 6th. i'm told that that timeline

might be a little bit aggressive. but that this has been going on for at least a few days. we do know the chief of staff john kelly has been reviewing, evaluating a lot of the positions at the west wing. steve bannon's was among them. i'm also told by an administration official that the interview that bannon did with the american prospect, quote, didn't help his case, in terms of staying on at the white house. while bannon was definitely a darling of many conservative, he was also seen in the white house as something of a divisive figure. though it was also said to be aoeud logically very much along the same lines as the president. here's official statement from the white house saying, quote, white house chief of staff john kelly and steve bannon have mutually agreed today would be steve's last day. we are grateful for his service and we wish him the best. you can tell as early as tuesday of this week that the writing really was on the wall for

bannon. after months of speculation. when the president was asked about him at that now infamous press conference in the lobby of trump tower. listen to what the president said. >> i like mr. bannon. he's a friend of mine. but mr. bannon came on very late. you know that. i went through 17 senators, governors and i won all the primaries. mr. bannon came on very much later than that. and i like him. he's a good man. he is not a racist, ky tell you that. he's a good person. he actually gets very unfair press in that regard. but we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. >> reporter: those are the key words there, sandra. typically in the past he has called him steve. said he really likes him. gets along well with him. again, bannon was ideologically very similar to the president. he did not see eye to eye with a lot of people at the white house though. he sometimes formed an alliance

with previs to get things done. there's no secret he ran up against the first son-in-law, gary cohn and others who he saw as more establishment figures there at the white house, if not politicians. now the question remain, so steve bannon is gone. will jared kushner be long for the white house? or was this a move to get bannon out so that kushner can retire from the white house at some point and say i won. and then there is the issue of gary cohn as well. it's no secret that gary cohn was upset about the president's comments regarding charlottesville. he's also got some of his own political troubles there at the white house. so will he stay or will he go? our understanding is that he is staying, at least for the moment. then there's h.r. mcmaster as well, who is the national security adviser who never saw eye to eye with steve bannon.

in fact, steve bannon was, you'll remember, he was appointed to the so called principles committee of the national security council. when mcmaster came in to replace general flynn one of the first things mcmaster did was boot him off of the council. the other question is, what does steve bannon do when he leaves the white house? does he go back as he did before or does he maybe form an alliance as is being reported in some outlets with robert mercer, a deep pocketed conservative and wage war against the establishment figures in the white house? we'll have to see. even though the panel is intrigued with bannon in the white house is over for the moment, it is far from over when you look at what could happen going forward. >> sandra: you gave us so many question, john roberts. >> reporter: every question begs another question when you're covering the white house. >> sandra: yes, sir. good to see you. thank you for that update. things changing by the minute.

bannon joins a large list. bryce previs is out, sean spicer is gone, anthony scaramucci lasted ten days. mike flynn gone. we're only seven months into this young administration. this sunday will be seven months. with all the turnover, can the white house get on message? let's bring in former hillary clinton campaign staffer. so where do you want to start? because john roberts least us with so many questions in the wake of his departure, steve bannon from the white house. >> well, listen. steve bannon's been a very controversial figure from the start. the president pointed out the other day, he wasn't with him all the way. president trump already quite well along. steve bannon helped bring in the conservative wing of the republican party and get people behind president trump.

that might have been the most important contribution that he made. as chief strategist seven months in, and he said in an interview, steve bannon did a week ago, that he never thought he'd last more than six months or perhaps a year. no big surprise. this happens in a lot of administrations like in the clinton administration with a lot of real line men, lot of people coming and going, including the press secretary. but steve bannon has not a lot to point to as pride legislatively in terms of messaging and getting the president's poll numbers where you want them to be. i don't think he should be putting chief strategist for the first six months at the top of his resume. i don't think he's really performed the way that people had hoped he would perform. >> sandra: that interview with american prospect as you heard from john roberts, suggesting that was sort of a tipping point, that was what he thought

was off the record interview. but he says, steve bannon says, he did that to take pressure off the president. >> i think that's a little silly. i'm not sure that the american prospect interview was what pushed him over the edge. steve bannon has been a lightning rod for both main stream republicans, as well as the progressives around the country. and there has been an enormous movement, a huge pressure campaign on the white house to get rid of him, specifically within progressive groups. but also from the hill, from republicans as well. so this is a major cave by this white house. it's a major cave by donald trump. i guess the question is whether this actually does anything to stop the assumption in the white house. i don't think it will. >> sandra: to remind everybody, chris, how fast things are moving here, this was president trump speaking ab steve bannon on tuesday.

listen. >> i like him. he's a good man. he is not a racist. i can tell you that. he's a good person. he actually gets a very unfair press in that regard. but we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. but he's a good person and i think the press treats him, frankly, very unfairly. >> sandra: that was three days ago. >> yeah. well, welcome to washington. this is the way things go, honestly. to say it's a major cave is just more political hooey. we killed one, now you'll target somebody else and try to kill them, too. why so many decent people steer clear of this town and of politics because it's gotten so awful and tawdry. but, look, the president has some righting of the ship to do. we need to calm the waters in washington, in the party and in the white house. and if this moves the world in that direction then perhaps it

will be a positive thing. maybe we'll see steve bannon on the steven colbert show tonight explaining everything like scaramucci did. >> sandra: zak, as i mentioned, we're left with more questions than answers. but at least here newt gingrich talking about the president, distancing himself from others inside of his own cabinet. watch this. >> i think he's in a position where he is much more isolated than he realizes. on the hill, he has far more people willing to sit to one side and not help him right now. he's taken a good first step bringing general kelly in, but he needs to think about what has not worked. you don't get down in the 35% range of approval and have people in your own party shooting at you and conclude that everything's going fine. >> sandra: it makes you wonder, as john roberts also pointed out, zak, what happens with jared kushner?

what happens with gary cohn? >> i completely agree. i think they were wise words by newt gingrich. on the hill we have moderate republican senators, conservative ones from the south who are openly going against donald trump and condemning him for the way he handled the white nationals rally in charlotte. and then we are hearing rumors that brightbart is going to go to war, either against the white house or against those individuals, kushner and other so called moderating influences. this is bad news up and down for the white house. >> sandra: let me give chris the last word on that. a shake-up doesn't always mean a bad thing, chris. they could be cleaning things up and this is what they need to hone their message and get things right inside of the white house. is this the logical next step, steve bannon gone? >> well, if he's such a controversial character inside the white house, then it may help to calm the waters, as i

said earlier. and if john kelly, a former marine corps four star general, is allowed to take ahold of the situation and shape the message and work on the legislative agenda, bring some discipline to the process, i think we may see progress. now, that's not what the democrats want. the democrats want everybody to be tied up talking about race and nazis and the kkk and we killed another one because it's washington and it's a terrible place to be. >> sandra: wow. you make it sound so lovely. >> well, honestly, look at it. it's terrible. >> sandra: zak and chris, what a day. what a week. thanks to you both for being here. still to come, we have more coverage on the departure of steve bannon. ben shapiro at brightbart news will join us. but first, we'll get reaction from congressman lee zeldon. you do not want to miss any of this. what are all these different topped & loaded meals? it's an american favorite on top of an american favorite, alice.

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>> sandra: a fox news alert on a massive manhunt under way in spain after terror attacks killed at least 14 people and left more than 100 others hurt. here's how it all unfolded. on wednesday, an explosion in a small town 120 miles outside barcelona killed one person and injured 16 others. around 5:00 local time yesterday a white van drove into a crowd in barcelona and the driver fled on foot. less than two hours later police found a second van about 50 miles outside the city. officers then killed a man who was trying to drive through a road block. early this morning police shot and killed five suspects after a second car attack in a seaside town. conner powell is live in barcelona with the latest on

this complex investigation. conner what, are we learning right now about a possible terror cell? >> reporter: so originally it looked like this could have been the work of a lone wolf attacker. there was a van and one person driving down las ramblas. there was thought that this was a lone wolf attacker. but what we've seen over the last 24 hours is a very sizable cell according to spanish authorities. they are still looking for the driver of that vehicle. they believe he is a moroccan that is the younger brother of one of the four people that they've arrested here in barcelona. now, there are also five people that were killed down about 50 miles south of barcelona as well. we put it together. there were about ten people or so that were involved in these two attacks. authorities are looking at what is a sizable cell here of people working together, help plan this

out, which they say took some serious planning on the part of these guys, these attackers. now, there is one question. oukamir has essentially disappeared now. there is some speculation, it's unfounded, but there is speculation among authorities here that he may have been one of the five that were killed in that seaside port south of here. that's one of the assumptions police are working on. he simply disappeared. for an 18-year-old to disappear after having his picture all over town is a bit odd. that's one of the things they're looking at, sandra. >> sandra: thank you, conner powell in barcelona spain. police on the scene of another attack in europe. two people dead after stabbings in finland. happened in the western part of the country. officers now saying the suspect is in custody and being treated in a hospital. after police shot him in the leg. authorities say it's too early to link the stabbings to global

terrorism, and police aren't sure of the suspect's motive. what started as a rumor, now reality. white house chief strategist steve bannon is out. we have the very latest. you don't let anything

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know. why do you think the president decided to have him leave? >> well, i don't know exactly what that reasoning is. i'm sure that we'll be able to learn more in the hours and the days ahead. i think steve bannon in many respects has been given a very bad rap. i have spent time with him where he's advocating against the rising anti-sepl teufpl on college campuses. he's passionately pro israel. very consistent with the president's vision with regards to trade policy or moving in a better direction on the iran nuclear deal. so he's someone that brought a lot of talent and wisdom. he understands world history like few others do in this country. so he brought a lot of skills. but ultimately it's the president of the united states who was elected last november whether steve bannon or preibur or sean spicer.

these are all tkaoepblt people. but it tees president of the united states who has the make the decisions on who the best individuals to surround himself with. i just feel hraoeub steve bannon especially what we've seen since last year's campaign, getting a very bad rap, characterizing him as a racist. just not accurate from the person that i have had an opportunity to spend some time with. >> sandra: donald trump presidency turns seven months old this weekend, congressman. we've got a new chief of staff, a new press secretary, a new white house communications director. hope hicks has stepped in now. changes keep coming. another white house shake-up. what does that tell you? can that be a good thing? >> well, if the president feels like -- by the way, with a new chief of staff, who is a retired four star marine general who understands discipline and good communication and having maybe less individuals going into the oval office. maybe individuals on a team not

talking with each other on how plans may change and be best implemented. if the president is making changes to the chemistry, where people know each other's strengths and weaknesses and they're getting a legislative agenda passed. they're moving the economy forward. that's all good. i'm one, i'm a congressional republican who supports our president, who wants him to be successful. i want to do whatever i possibly can to help my country. i believe that's where, getting tax reform across the finish line over the course of these next couple months is a high priority regardless of who is in the west wing with the president. >> sandra: after saying that, i would ask you, he receives a lot of criticism for not building relationships with congress. how then would you suggest he build that bridge? >> president trump has made a ton more outreach to congress than what we saw with president

obama. i have talked to colleagues republican and democrat who would talk about how, with president clinton and president george w. bush, there was so much bipartisan outreach to members of congress that democrats were complaining with president obama the limited outreach and how they felt like they weren't getting the love from the president of their own party. president trump, especially with healthcare, spending a ton of time inviting members of congress over. the personal phone calls. the relationships that were built last year during the campaign have carried over to his time in the white house. president trump doesn't get enough credit for the tremendous amount of time that he has spent building his relationships with congress. i think it's a lot stronger than people give him credit for. >> sandra: such a difficult week. the terrorist attacks in charlottesville. now a white house shake-up. what do you say to the american people, congressman, who say we're finishing this week -- for

some people it's hard to even digest the news right now, there's just so much being thrown at them. what do you like about what you're seeing right now with the president in washington, what's happening with this country? >> fortunately, there are so many americans who are in between the extremes that exist. reject the extreme elements of our society. who want to unite. we are americans. we should not be left or right, liberal or conservative, republic or democrat. as we watch what happened last week in charlottesville, we should actually renew our interest, our strongest desire to be building bridges between us and rejecting those extremist elements. the president has maybe the most unique ability of all with the challenges that are still ahead of us, to be able to broaden his coalition, reach out across the aisle on issues where he can

find common ground wherever possible on the other side but still ensuring that he's not selling out on any of those commitments that he made to get elected last year that he remains very focused on. unity is key. being americans first before we label ourselves with our stars and stripes. >> sandra: you sound pretty optimistic, congressman. >> i absolutely am. i watch the way -- americans reject what we saw last weekend in charlottesville. i'm jewish. i would -- i look at anyone who associates themselves with the kkk and naziism, for example, filled with hatred and bigotry and intolerance and evil. it's unwelcome. it's unamerican. these are my passionate thoughts that i keep sharing over and over again. and i really do believe that many americans feel the same way. we have, we see extremist

elements on both sides. it might be charlottesville with one particular case and then we see our good friend steve scalise get targeted. he battled through rehabilitation. it was just yesterday missouri state senator was calling for president trump's assassination. these are extremist elements though. and i see americans, they really do, because we're so passionate and patriotic, there is that strong desire across the ideological spectrum to come together more than we have seen. i want to be optimistic for our country's sake, the greatest country in the world. >> sandra: thank you for coming on having that very open discussion with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> sandra: it's friday afternoon. the white house making another staff shake-up. we'll talk to karl rove who said bannon's swanson interview was par to president trump's leadership. do you see anything about this

picture? brett bayer has some insight on it and how steve bannon's departure may be different than some of the others. ugh. heartburn.

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brett, what should we make of that? >> yeah. well, first of off, vice president pence is still there. but the rest in that picture are gone. it's a lot of turnover for that administration with steve bannon, the chief strategist going, preibus became sean kelly. he was also communications director for some time. so was mike dubke. so was anthony scaramucci. you've got the fired fbi director james comey. and the deputy chief of staff. and the national security adviser mike flynn is now h.r. mcmaster. there's a lot of turnover in six months of this administration. what it tells us is this administration has not gotten its footing yet about how to deal with not only washington, but a unique president in president trump. this is a signal that john kelly has a lot more power and a lot

more say, sway in that white house now. and it is being said that he was one of the primary reasons that bannon is gone. obviously the president makes the decision. but john kelly is trying to straighten out the inner workings of that white house. bannon, by the way, sandra, is telling people he offered his resignation august 7th but was told this would be his last day today. it's hard to believe that he thought that interview with "american prospect" was off the record. if you look in context of the final days here, he also talked to "the new york times" and "the washington post." and it seemed like a swan song kind of media, this is where he thinks things should go. >> sandra: so what impact will this have on the white house as we're left to speculate who else might be out, who else may come

in now as well. >> i think some bannon allies probably are looking over their shoulder. sebastien gorkos is one of them. there may be others. and i think that there is this cleaning house. we'll see how far this goes. i do think this was something that president trump having steve bannon close to him is also something that protects him from being on the outside firing at the trump administration. i talked about it earlier. bannon had a white board, all of the things that candidate trump promised on the campaign trail. the border wall, economic nationalism when it came to trade. very forcefully tried to bring these things up about what he said as a candidate to what he was doing as a president. i think bannon sees that not happening, he will go from the outside in and try to somehow

influence the president through the media. i think there's a possibility that bannon may do his own media outlet. obviously used to be with brightbart news. he has a close relationship with hedge fund billionaire robert mercer, his daughter rebecca. we'll see what this ends up being. >> sandra: we're left to wonder, on a very busy day, things changing quickly. thank you for coming on with us. speaking of white boards and steve bannon being out, my next guest said it may have been his own ego that got the best of him. karl rove is former deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to president george w. bush. he joins us now by phone. karl, thanks for coming on. >> you bet. thank you, sandra. >> sandra: i'm sure you've got some thoughts on this moment. >> well, look. in a normal white house if a senior white house aide gave an

interview to a reporter from the office inside of the aisle, so to speak, a conservative white house staffer calls up a very liberal reporter and proceeds to diss his white house colleagues and administration colleague, contradict the president, both from a policy perspective and a priority perspective, declare that he's going to remove opponents and, quote, enemies within the administration and otherwise covers himself with glory, he'd be gone. but this is not a normal white house. steve bannon's relationship with president trump has been close and there have been questions as brett eluded to as to whether or not it was better to keep him inside the white house firing out rather than outside the white house firing in. but he's now gone. it's really a sign of maybe a

little bit of normality that president trump agreed or president trump decided that he couldn't tolerate somebody in the white house who's engaging in such destruckive behavior. it wasn't just one interview. he followed it up with three other interviews in which he boasted in one of the interviews that he had given the first interview that was so problematic in order to distract attention from the president's difficulties over charlottesville. it's pretty amazing several days in the life of the trump white house. we've seen plenty of weird days, but these are among the weirdest. >> sandra: i have to ask a question for the average american who may not even know who steve bannon is or what a chief strategist does at the white house. i mean, this was then't a guy that we heard from publicly all that often. very few time, in fact. lot of people don't even know the sound of his voice. how important is this role for the president and to now have him gone? what is the impact on this white house? this is a significant role for

the president. >> well, bannon's role was essentially to act as sort of, if you will, keeper of the flame. his job appeared to have been to remind the president and the president's people of what the president had promised to do and sort of try and keep the ship moving in a general direction of fulfilling those promises. let me tell ya, i was a senior adviser to president george w. bush. but andy card, the white house chief of staff, told me something at the beginning that has stayed with me ever since. he said, i don't want people whose only job is to walk into the oval office and give the president their advice. so you can advise the president as a senior adviser, but i also want you responsible for running things in order to execute the policy decisions that we make. so he gave me several offices that i was responsible for, including one called strategic initiatives whose job it was to

work with other, all other senior white house officials to arrive at a long term plan for the white house. i think one of the problems in this white house is that steve bannon and a number of other officials have no responsibility, or have had no responsibility until now to do anything except walk into the oval office and give the president their advice. and that is a recipe for disaster. if you're not responsible for executing decision, you've got a lot of free time on your hands and not a lot of responsibility for making sure things get done. >> sandra: we didn't see that lovely white board, but karl rove, we're always happy to get your perspective. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sandra. >> sandra: a fox news alert for you. a pair of deadly terror attacks putting spain on high alert as police try to track down any suspects that may still be on the loose. authorities now saying the attackers had even bigger plans that involved explosives, but those plans ultimately failed. chief intelligence correspond

anne catherine herridge is live with more on the investigation. >> reporter: the use of vehicles as weapons reflects a significant shift by al qaeda and isis to low tech low cost plots that are nearly impossible to disrupt. self-radicalized terrorists are just as capable as those who risk travel to syria, iraq, afghanistan for more formal training. the barcelona attack is the sixth in europe that has used vehicles to mow down civilians with little or no warning. while car accident kill 30,000 to 40,000 people a year, world wide terrorists using cars or trucks kill only a tiny fraction. but an hraoeufts say this kind of attack using one of the most ordinary items makes it all the more shocking. >> from an isis perspective, minimum investment, maximum result. they're very speck hrar attacks carried out in places that have a lot of cameras. the images go around the world, they terrify a lot of people. they capture the imagination and

paralyze the life of cities. >> reporter: new data shows vast majority of recent plots have been home grown terrorist and not foreign fighters returning from syria as was predicted as recently by the intelligence community last year, sandra. >> sandra: all right. catherine, thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> sandra: how can europe or the u.s. crack down on these vehicle attacks? experience uncompromising performance at the lexus golden opportunity sales event before it ends. choose from the is turbo, es 350 or nx turbo for $299 a month for 36 months if you lease now. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. tand the alzheimer'sf association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. visit alz.org to join the fight.

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in less than 24 hours. those incidents raising questions about whether europe's terror threat is increasing. a new report saying up to 3,000 fighters could soon return to europe from the middle east. in france alone 269 people have already returned. let's bring in the director of push in united for israel's watchman project. he's the host of the watchman show and a terrorism analyst. thanks for being here. >> sandra, good to be with you. >> sandra: so, we're left with this question. how do we prevent attacks like this from happening in the future? >> very difficult, sandra. i was in london last month on westminster bridge. they put guardrail ors bare kwrers there on that bridge. i think in one sense you're going to see a physical reaction to it. probably more barriers on crowded tourist spots, on bridges, in western capitals. i think more importantly, we need to be able to identify

jihadists and terrorists before they strike. we are behind the curve far too often right now. by the way, sandra, many times we're not sure yet in this barcelona case, but in many of these instances in western cities over the past few years the terrorists had been on intelligence officials radars for some time. they're not picked up or they're released and then they strike. >> sandra: so what needs to change? to your point it seems so often in the wake of the attacks we learn that this person or persons, referring to the terrorists, were persons of interest. or they had already been tracked by authorities. what needs to change? >> i think in europe, authorities many times are spread too thin. it's kind of like a game of whack a mole. you break up one cell and another one pops up. as you said in the lead-in, the sheer volume of terrorists who are returning from syria battle hard and battle tested. it leaves some 2,000 french citizens by some account, many

from spain obviously, great britain. the sheer volume who have gone to syria and now are returning, i can tell you that european intelligence officials, law enforcement many times are just overwhelmed. i think another problem in europe is a real rampant political correctness, sandra, where there is a reluctance to identify the ideology. look, terrorism is only a tactic. it is driven by an ideology that is radical islamic jihadist ideology. europeans have been slow to announce that. >> sandra: i want to keep talking about why this keeps happening. >> what we've had, failed immigration policies over many year, a total lack of integration of a huge part of the muslim community with the rest of our towns and cities. what we've got is a european project with a like minded set of ideals that is frankly endangering the lives of european citizens, yet there's no sign that any of our leaders yet wanting to change policy.

>> sandra: erick, i want your response to that. >> yeah. ironically enough, sandra, nigel coming to us from the u.k. we are in a winston churchill moment now where the west is desperate for that kind of leadership. we don't see it in europe. there's been a reluctance to not only confront the enemy head on, but to acknowledge the enemy exists. in regard to immigration which he also discussed there, look right here in the u.s., sandra. we're talking about europe and the serious problems they have there. but how about in the u.s., a place like minneapolis, st. paul, where we've seen dozens of young somali men go to places like syria and join isis and other terror groups. the bar berrians are not just at the gate, they're inside the gates. that includes right here in the u.s. that's not scare tactics. it's a fact. look at the litany of arrests and terror plots we've had broken up in the u.s. the past few years. >> sandra: the anger and fear is out there, the threat is not going away. people are scared. this report doesn't make things

any better, that those fighters are coming off the battlefield. a huge headline out of the white house. steve bannon going from brightbart news to the white house. now some reports he may head back to his influential news site. we'll talk to someone who worked under bannon and left over an ugly incident. phone with our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness. so the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight- four weeks without the car. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. i recently discovered that a good source of protein. that's why they're my go-to snack while i get back in shape.

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>> sandra: the white house confirming today was steve bannon's last day on the job. joining me now by phone is ben shapiro. he worked with steve bannon at bright bart news. what do you think of the news? >> well, i think that it's gonna

cause a major rift between bright bart and trump. bright bart came from the trump site very very positive for trump during the election cycle and bannon was the head of that. then moved to the trump campaign. now i think bannon's will be go back to breitbart, platform for the alt right as he declared it. he's going to use that power to smash the president, what he thinks the president is wrong. i think he's going to do it in order to prop himself up, too. i don't think it's solely about principle. far from it. lot of it will be about steve trying to gain his own momentum on a movement he believes in. >> sandra: it does appear that bannon is exiting on good terms with the president when you consider how he answered questions from the press.

we have that sound. let's listen. >> i like him. he's a good man. he's a good person. he gets very unfair press in that regard. we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. he is a good person. press treats him very unfairly. >> sandra: we'll see what happens. you're suggesting he makes a return to breitbart news. >> i don't see any other options for him. he's one of the most powerful people on the planet for the last couple months. i don't think he'll give up the title of one of the national popular movement leaders. as far as the papering over trump, i think the rest of the week belies that. if you look at bannon's interview he did with "the american prospect" where he openly bashed president trump's national security policy in north korea, where he went after trump with his china trade policy, where he suggested there were bed wetters inside the

administration who he was going to go to war with. if he put in his resignation letter two weeks ago, he knew that he was going to be out. that means he is prepping for a narrative. the narrative is i am the guy who stands up for those who elected trump. trump is surrounded by globalists. breitbart said every time they see trump's name they put globes emoji with globes around it. trump is set up for battle. >> sandra: any thoughts about the future of others? jared kushner, gary cohn? >> i think anybody who gets too close to the president is in a little danger. he's gone through an enormous amount of staff. the key to bringing in trump's good graces is never being perceived as weak. the key moment for bannon came early on when people started calling him president bannon and putting him on the cover of "time" magazine.

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>> it is noon on the west coast. a man credited with helping president trump to win the white house will no longer be welcome. there steve bannon is out of a job. ahead, complete coverage of how it unfolded. and who will take over in his role and what might change about the trump presidency? will this help heal the rift. tennessee's representative bob corker questioning whether donald trump is stable.