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cohn, jared kushner, h.r. mcmaster, and steven mnuchin. in some ways, bannon is now unchanged from the constraints of the white house that sort of had him pinned down. he is now free to go out and do whatever he wants. what's the reason why bannon is gone? you've seen that cover of the "time" magazine article. it looked like bannon was the real power behind the throne at the white house. there is also the book, "devil's bargain," the rock at the trump road all the way to the presidency. there was some talk in july that bannon may be leaving at the same time reince priebus was. i am told by sources in the know at the white house that bannon tenured his resignation to the president on august 7th. the deal was that his resignation and departure was going to be announced at the beginning of this week but that all of the events in relation to
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charlottesville and the aftermath of that pushed that timetable back some. what's murky in all of this is what role john kelly played because bannon had already given his resignation but john kelly was evaluating his position in the white house. kelly was the one who ultimately made the decision. the chief of staff john kelly and steve bannon together agreed that today would be bannon's last day. with also a little bit murky or foggy is what role of this article the american prospect played in bannon's departure. a lot of people at the white house were very upset by it. they believe you can't contradict the president on items like north korea, the things you did -- about gary cohn, without having repercussions but bannon was already out because we were told he tendered his resignation. it might have been a massive
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exit interview where he got the air all his grievances. in a forum where he was short a lot of democratic working people might see it. jesse. >> jesse: thank you very much. greg gutfeld, i think the understanding is the president has gotten rid of reince priebus and sean spicer. he's also gotten rid of steve bannon, one of the more ideological populist nationalis nationalist. he has surrounded himself by generals, his family, and some moderate wall street people. it is that you see it? >> greg: i kind of see it as he unloaded bannon as a way to feed the a angry mob. i'm skeptical of how evil he was painted. i'm always wary of the thought mob. when everyone same the same thing. it strikes me, the way he was painted for six or seven months.
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it's so irrational that it is likely wrong. the white house lost a chief strategist but the good news is, cable news has gained a new talk show. the question is, where is he going to go? it could be bannon and the mooch. >> jesse: [laughs] i would love to see bannon and the mooch. >> greg: morning drive time. >> jesse: it couldn't be prime time because it would not be family oriented. >> greg: what time would it be? [laughter] >> jesse: now that bannon has gone back to breitbart, could he potentially be more effective they are coming using breitbart as a weapon like he said he would be? to really hammer the president's opponents and push the president's agenda? >> lisa: i think he also might push the president. there are a couple things here that a really interesting.
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steve bannon saw what having an off the record conversation with a journalist can do. it gets you relieved of your post. some said that bannon didn't necessarily want to quit, he wanted to be fired. it's better for his personal narrative. we have seen from sean spicer and reince priebus and even anthony scaramucci when they left the white house, these very cordial postmortem interviews. the things about the president, they talked about serving the country and bannon is like -- he's finally someone spilling the beans. he said this presidency is over. he's willing to talk. he knows he has an outlet. he didn't have to give that conversation, that means he's got a lot more vitriol and ammunition. now he certainly got the platform. >> jesse: do you believe the presidency of donald trump is over as we know it? because bannon and the president were pretty ideologically aligned when it came to economic nationalism and things of that nature.
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when you think? >> lisa: the media is going to have a field day trying to square bannon against president trump. anytime bannon says something, it's going to be a new cycle for the day. there's an overemphasis on each individual within the trump presidency. what we have seen from the media continuously is -- who has the strings of donald trump the puppet, right? kushner, bannon, reince priebus -- >> jesse: i am not a puppet, you're the puppet. >> lisa: if he is leaving in the presidency is over -- come >> kennedy: look at the campaign trail with president trump. he defeated 16 candidates during that duration, who had more money than him. who outperformed him in terms of on the ground. people more experienced. he defeated hillary clinton who had two times the amount of money and five times the amount of staff. he did that with three different campaign managers.
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>> lisa: but steve bannon and kellyanne conway, that's when the rates really shifted to trump's advantage. >> kennedy: 16 candidates is also tasked five -- he espouses a lot of the same principles. now particularly on issues with trade, making america great again, 12 days after -- >> greg: you read a playboy article? nobody reads playboy articles. [laughter] >> kennedy: i was reading it because -- >> jesse: that was my line! what did democrats say about bannon leaving? are you celebrating in the streets? >> juan: bannon was not a hero for the democrats. he wanted to talk to a democrat. right? he got out there, something you touched on. a strong message to a working-class democrat, he stands with them and he was all
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about fighting against the chinese. some people go inside the white house and they saw him it's far too friendly to russia and putin. the inside fight is what catches my attention. we have people like bannon, aligned with reince priebus, and the whole nationalistic -- we were in the campaign, we knew how to push the right buttons on immigration, race, all the like -- those people have been, it seems to me, totally eclipsed. you know what? you see jared kushner right there. right? with ivanka. more like gary cohn, the whole goldman sachs crowd. i think they are wall street people. i don't know how you call them moderate. they want less regulation and -- >> kennedy: hallelujah! more money. it's before i don't think those people are going to pick fights with china. they aren't going to be hard on immigration.
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and bannon was saying those people to him are more moderate. >> juan: they are more moderate in terms of -- maybe compared to bannon but not compared to the democratic agenda. when you ask what democrats think, many trump supporters see these folks as part of that nationalist trend. they say you guys are going -- bannon saw them as globalists. people who were in fact ignoring the hardworking middle-class in america. >> jesse: definitely a part of the establishment. >> juan: the establishment republicans are in a moment too. they are very angry at trump right now. trump has -- >> jesse: when are they not angry? >> juan: trump is blaming mitch mcconnell for the failure of his legislative agenda. he's taking on people like mccain. where does it go now? you have breitbart, a really high place. breitbart is where bannon is going to stay. the trump administration --
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>> jesse: kennedy, were you going to respond? >> kennedy: who has been a part of this administration and who has been released, we have to look at where we are going. i'm wondering, do steve bannon somehow flip on the president? is there some bad blood and does he make things difficult in this russia investigation? what does he know and then what does he share with the special counsel? >> jesse: i think the president and steve bannon will continue to talk. to think we are overplaying the whole advisor game right now? do think trump -- >> greg: no, in the context of what's been going on, this is an ongoing thing. i try to remain optimistic. i'm giving this administration the benefit of the doubt because he's our president. the media has gotten a hold of the threat of this sweater. they are not going to let go until there's nothing left. let's say he made this change is a way to say hey, look, i
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listened to general kelly. and we are going to calm the waters. we are going to move forth. i don't think he's going to change anybody's mind. they are out to get him. they are out to get him in an irrational, incorrect way. he has made mistakes but they are expecting the wrong thing from trump. he's not the kind of person that soothes a nation. he's a businessman. president obama had the eloquence to sooth the nation. donald trump is a street fighter and that's what you're saying. >> juan: what about conservative media? i'm talking about not only breitbart but drudge, the possibility that bannon goes out and combines with robert mercer. the conservative moneyman. and creates a new conservative channel? >> greg: they have a lot of talent out there. [laughter] >> jesse: how is washington reacting to bannon's departure and is this a reset mode for the
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>> juan: steve bannon's exit from the white house is perhaps the biggest political shake-up of the year. in 2017, that's saying something. take a look at how the broadcast networks covered it tonight. >> we will see what happens with mr. bannon. >> today, we saw. the president process control, all right, delete. he gives his chief strategist the boot. >> lightning rod steve bannon is out tonight. trump chief strategist, a key architect of trump's election victory, he nurtured most of the president take no prisoners -- >> taken just days after the inauguration. now national security advisor michael flynn gone. press secretary sean spicer, gone. chief of staff reince priebus, gone. and finally today, steve bannon. >> juan: ticket that her idea of how the political class in
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washington, bret baier. is this a reset moment for the white house? >> good evening, guys. i think greg was right, if this is going to be some major pivot for president trump, they've been looking for it for a long time. it's likely not going to be. president trump is going to be president trump. that said, it's an eye-opener. the word was that he was on his way out and the administration, the president had made that the decision with general kelly's guidance a couple of weeks ago. bannon is telling people that he offered his resignation august 7th. and that today was going to be the last day. it's a change. it doesn't take away the uniqueness of this president or the firepower of steve bannon, who now in his words, has a lot more weapons in his old job as
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the executive of breitbart news. >> juan: i heard you say you thought this was the worst week in the trump presidency. is that right? >> i did come earlier. i was asked about the perception of how the president is being received. when you have people speaking out, charlottesville, mainly that tuesday news conference and then you see everything else that has transpired, this was not a stellar week for this president. as far as number one, getting capitol hill engaged on his agenda come the fall. there are a lot of big things in the next few weeks that he's going to need not only republicans but democrats to pass. >> kennedy: it's kennedy. hey. who fills the void? >> greg: that was my question. >> kennedy: i will phrase it differently, greg gutfeld. we've been reading that steve bannon has been thrown out of
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this administration. he who taken over his role in the last week? >> great question. kellyanne conway probably has a more significant role. general kelly has been empowered with that general staff position. he's a lot more political minded about the future and laying things out as far as an agenda then people may have given him credit for. he was a legislative liaison for two defense secretaries. he knows his way around washington. i think he has a lot more political savvy in that role then people may know. lastly, i think jared and ivanka will take a much more prominent role if you believe bannon and jarrett were going at it. >> juan: begot squabbling at the table because apparently kennedy took greg's question. >> greg: i don't know if this could be a shift or will they add somebody new quest to less
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incendiary? maybe like a michael savage? [laughter] >> phrasing your analysis, this a big night for me. i think trump, president trump is going to be president trump. you are exactly right. he's going to not change. just because steve bannon is there or not. bob mercer, the hedge fund millionaire this week, president trump -- and live confirmed that. that means they've been talking things through. about how to play the outside game with steve bannon and the mercer family perhaps. that's an interesting thing in and of itself. >> lisa: hi it, lisa. are we expecting for people like steve miller or sebastian gorka, more closely aligned with steve bannon. does the signal anything for them? are you hearing of any
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additional staff changes? >> all we have heard is that general kelly is not finished cleaning house. if that's accurate i think there are people that will be looking over their shoulder. people, they're probably a couple of them. steve miller has entrenched himself. on the more communication side of things. maybe a better position. there are a couple others who might be looking over their shoulders. >> jesse: hey, bret baier. i don't want to get into the president's head. i think that's a very interesting place to be. if you're president trump, do you run out of people to fire after a while? [laughs] it's the turn factor. he's turning out people. one person goes in the next person goes. if kelly's tax it up and he's got a team, he still got another three years left in the first
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term. does he keep firing people? or does he stick with the team? even in the primaries -- he was still firing people. >> it's kind of a chaotic scene. 11 firings or resignations since february 13th. it's august 18th. we have quite a lot of turmoil. it's not a traditional operation. i don't know if it's going to continue. i think there's a sense that they need to settle things down before the fall. as i mentioned, it's not just hope and wish about tax reform and infrastructure. he of things that are going to have a deadline. fiscal cliff. a budget that will require some best hands at the till. >> juan: before we let you go and thanks so much for talking to us tonight. i am struck by the idea that we have seen breitbart had #war.
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the interview that steve bannon gave to the weekly standard. this presidency, eight months and, it's over. for people like you watching and thinking what's going on here -- is that a signal about potentially coming from the right-wing media towards the president, because of bannon's dismissal? or do you think it doesn't have much impact or meaning going forward? >> the #war thing was kind of the mantra that bannon used to take on the big foes. the mainstream media, democrats, the establishment republican class. i think more significantly, juan, is the quote steve bannon gave the weekly standard tonight. at that presidency, the presidency we fought for and won is over. essentially saying that he is
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going to battle not president trump, he's going to help president trump and perhaps who president trump is and what he wants to get done. but he's going to battle the forces that are trying to turn president trump into a more traditional establishment figure. some of those forces are inside the trump white house. steve bannon talking about in the other interview with gary cohn, steven mnuchin, these are forces inside the trump administration. >> juan: more fighting to come, i guess. >> perhaps. >> juan: thanks again for staying around. >> greg: thanks, bret baier. >> lisa: you are our favorite bear. >> juan: not holding a rally in his city next week, the left trying to prevent the president from talking directly to his supporters
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♪ >> kennedy: president trump loves to speak directly to americans about holding rallies. this one scheduled but is the left trying to shut down this speech for your president trump? the phoenix mayor sure doesn't want to have the president there next week. >> it's very unfortunate. ill-timed after the events in charlottesville and the disappointing response of our president to unequivocally condemn racism and uneventful back-to-back unequivocally condemn white's primacy. i am concerned about -- the purpose is to inflame passions, i'm concerned about what might happen as a result. >> lisa: grad, clearly the mayor is saying he wants to delay right after the charlottesville -- -- to take this at face value? would you think there's a political motive? >> greg: political motives. his rallies are peaceful. what he's worried about her but think he's right about, that
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others will show up and cause violence. what he's contributing to is the illumination about his ability to congregate and have conversations -- every time you eliminate that step between emotions and violence, you end up with violence. you need people to be able to relieve tension and discuss things and meet and talk about things. even if their ideas are repugnant to you. if you can't stand their ideas. the fact is, the more you push stuff down, you find these and other countries, the more you cut out a certain religion -- the more radical that religion becomes. the idea is -- the more conversation there is, the fewer acts of violence there are. my theory. >> lisa: jesse, what you think the signal for future rallies that president trump is obviously going to try to have? >> jesse: he will continue to have big rallies with huge crowds. those are going to be and adrenaline rush.
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ill-timed? didn't president obama have a fund-raiser after benghazi? come on. talk about ill-timed. get out of here. he doesn't want trump to be successful. trump is going to have a huge rally and everyone will go show up. we are going to take it live. he's gonna have a ton of news feed off the energy of the crowd. three years, he's going to win back arizona like wanted last time. this is a lot of sour grapes. msnbc and, i would not consider a badge of honor. this is what people are going to do and all the states where trump holds rallies. they are going to show off, bluff, flex their muscles and act like you can't come here. you are a racist and then trump will drop air force one and dominate the local media markets, raise a ton of cash. and then go back to 1600 pennsylvania avenue as a winner. they don't want him to win. that's the problem. >> lisa: is there speculation that trump may endorse the
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senator who has obviously been critical -- >> kennedy: no, his opponent. >> lisa: the senator who has been very critical of the president, the word he talked about was a lot of turmoil within the republican party and trump administration. what would that mean for president trump and his agenda? >> kennedy: he's got to be really careful about whom he attacks in the senate. i think he has other wars brewing, north korea. the whole handful of issues he has to deal with them ethically. believing steve bannon of his post today was part of that. trying to calm that storm. what he said in that was politically motivated. i think the president would actually be more effective if he did have a beat between having another rally in the conversation in charlottesville. unfortunately, we've been so distracted by what the
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conversation -- what the president said, we haven't talked about some of the failures. i think there are important lessons to be learned here from law enforcement and other cities -- a free-speech rally tomorrow in boston. there are cities who want to figure out how to have these kind of demonstrations without them devolving into violence. >> lisa: want, what you think we will see at the rally on tuesday night? >> juan: it will be a typical trump rally. i think we have had some violence at trump rallies. >> kennedy: perpetrated by left-wing thugs. >> jesse: >> juan: here we are,p talking points. give me a shot here. what we heard the phoenix mayor's like a mother of a maximum police presence. the second thing is that john mccain and jeff flake, the two republican senators from arizona want no part of it. does he go there and start
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putting down his fellow republicans? likely. jeff flake, he said oh, john mccain? the guy who killed obamacare? or didn't kill obamacare? what you get is a situation where the aftermath -- he chooses to go and has a campaign style rally. the stuff he was always condemning obama for. you're constantly campaigning. he's constantly campaigning and doing so in a moment where -- at nerves and, as kennedy was saying, they are going to have a big rally in boston this weekend. they are worried about violence there. trump inserts himself and when the alt-right and neo-nazis and white supremacist show up, oh, not his fault. >> jesse: >> greg: there are tws of that. this has become a mouse mass combination condemnation. this has become a conduit to condemn a group of people beat
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these people in november. there's a revenge aspect of that. i can understand him going to his voters and saying don't forget why we are here. how this happened. because right now, you are being demonized by the media. they are saying guilt by association. if you voted for trump, you are racist. they have taken a presser and turned into a massive indictment of 60 million people. i said he could have done a better job. >> lisa: >> jesse: i want to mae more point. the mayor of charlottesville has some responsibility here. how did he get off the hook? >> juan: the mayor of charlottesville? >> jesse: there are no tweets there. nothing. >> lisa: you won't believe what he is saying now. at the break is going to be interesting. i wanted to know who i am and where i came from. i did my ancestrydna
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♪ >> kennedy: welcome back. al gore's film on climate change has been a disaster. that has not stopped the failed presidential candidate to give advice on someone who did find a way to enact the electoral college. >> if i had to give one piece of advice, what would it be? >> resigned. >> kennedy: oh, albert. greg, this is just sad. his movie is floundering like a dying carp on a hot dog. >> greg: i blame climate change on that, by the way. everyone is piling on trump. he just joined a mob because it made him relevant. >> kennedy: lisa, he's just trying to get a little bit of interest in his movie. it's sheer climate hackery. isn't it? >> lisa: this is what he's trying to do.
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he knows 66% of democrats care about democrats. that's why he is launched this issue. the planet would not exist right now, according to him. i don't think is the best of foreshadowing things. she sends -- he spends one month heating their pool what an average american spends one month eating their house. >> jesse: i can't talk about al gore. i just had dinner. you know what? this wasn't a quick-witted response. you can see how the camera makes the edit when he answers the question. it probably took them 10 minutes to think of. >> kennedy: style editing. >> juan: he is not a hero of mine but i think it's a real issue. climate change. even though the movie is still not doing well, it will be number two or number one
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documentary box office wide of the year. >> greg: eight dollars. >> juan: the thing that strikes me, i don't think you guys care what al gore has to say. >> greg: you are right! >> jesse: that's the only thing you've been right about all day! >> juan: you don't care, the reason you are doing this is to mock al gore. >> greg: next segment, juan. >> juan: what about -- >> jesse: gore has the same outfit as greg gutfeld, if you look at it. >> greg: he ripped me off. >> juan: what about mitt romney saying why doesn't he stand up and apologize for charlottesville? what you do part of the republican saying i don't know what to do with this guy, especially those on capitol hill? the polls, oh, my gosh, -- >> greg: can we do facebook friday? >> lisa: yes, we can. greg's wish is our demand. greg's wish is our demand. facebook friday is up
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matter what. right, kennedy? >> kennedy: big league chew. >> greg: wow. >> kennedy: thought was novelty gum that actually had a purpose. you can feel like a major league ballplayer without getting mouth cancer. >> greg: what you think? >> lisa: cotton candy. my dad would take me to hockey games. it's just a little messy. if your fingers get sticky, it's kind of gross but it taste delicious. >> greg: what he about you? >> jesse: do you remember deppe? you just took this big sugar dipstick? i like that. >> juan: i love bazooka bubble gum. >> jesse: candy! >> juan: what about the turkish taffy? >> jesse: >> jesse: are you havg amnesia? >> kennedy: in the 1740s!
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>> greg: you know what always got a bad rap? candy cigarettes. it sends a bad message but it may be want to have more candy cigarettes. >> lisa: what about a ton of fireballs? >> greg: pop rocks were amazing. >> juan: let's talk about candy bars. >> greg: heath bar. that's the best. i don't like any coconut. no mounds for me. texture is bad. >> kennedy: pita buttercups. when they have the christmas tree or the egg? >> lisa: or the eggs. >> greg: they drip down your face. it's disgusting. >> kennedy: up butterfinger blizzard from dairy queen. >> greg: i am lactose intolerant and i still do it. so does everybody else. this is another great question from camille jay. kids are getting to go back to school were starting to go back to school. what was or is your favorite school supplies?
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i will start with jesse. >> jesse: favorite school supply? binders full of women? [laughter] erasers? pencil sharpener's? >> juan: what kind of school were you going to? >> jesse: of romney one. >> kennedy: who had a resume as a child? sharpies, trapper keepers, and stickers. >> greg: sharpies to me -- there must be a club for sharpie addicts. i love these. it's not about the smell. the sound they make when you use them. it's beautiful and i've got to throw them out. >> lisa: i loved backpacks. cute colors. in them when you get older, you have a cute little bag. >> greg: i like cigar boxes. we would use to get cigar boxes at the liquor store. >> jesse: and candy
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cigarettes? >> greg: 1970s. in the '70s, we didn't have real school supplies. that was your stuff. >> juan: i like those three ring binders. they were cool. then you have those little circle things so the pages wouldn't rip. >> greg: oh, yes. >> juan: floppy disks. >> greg: a protractor. it doesn't get a lot of praise. it's a shame. >> kennedy: different colored pens, too. >> greg: this is interesting and i already know the answer to this. you all are stuck in an elevator. who do you think freaks out or melt down first? >> jesse: greg gutfeld. do we even need to say it? >> greg: this is the dumbest question ever because i would be -- i know i would. are you claustrophobic? me too. >> kennedy: trapped together on camera. i would probably end up having to eat you.
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[laughter] >> greg: i don't want to starve. i would have to eat you even if i had my own lunch with me. i would want to save my lunch in case i got out. >> juan: this is typical. any horror movie, the black guy always dies. [laughter] >> lisa: so sad. >> juan: you won't have a shoulder to cry on tonight. >> greg: it's time to move on. "one more thing" is up next. ♪
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♪ >> jesse: time now for "one more thing." williams. >> juan: the big topic has been where can you find a pair of solar eclipse classes? amazon -- >> greg: don't look at your tv! >> juan: hardware stores, 7-eleven, nasa is handing out free glasses and so are some planetariums and students but if you're still looking, some might have a pair. i'm told walmart, kroger's. be aware of people selling fake glasses that don't comply with safety standards. if you see a pair of solar sunglasses, please call me immediately. >> kennedy: i see some right now. >> oh! >> jesse: talking to the folks about the eclipse, if they even know what it is.
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canada opened up in denver -- shot at point-blank range by that thug the other day, he's going to tell me what happen. and then primetime exclusive with the va secretary. that's going to be saturday, 8:00 p.m. "watters' world." now, kennedy. oh, no, it's greg. >> greg: how dare you? you don't even see me, jesse. >> greg: i have a show as well. tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. kind of tough looking guy on the end, the strange lady, kennedy. and cat temps. it's a wonderful show. 10:00 tomorrow. time for "i hate these people." you people in my building using a drill at 6:45 a.m.? what are you thinking?
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i come downstairs and they are using a trail and they act like what are we doing? it's six: 45:00 a.m. that's against the law. a lot of people on twitter say they also have cigar boxes. >> jesse: not alone, greg gutfeld. >> greg: i'm not alone even though i feel alone. these people at -- >> juan: is that a jackhammer? >> jesse: >> greg: they were doa renovation. >> lisa: was that your name in high school? >> greg: i don't understand that meeting. >> kennedy: i love dogs. bark in the park, it allowed dogs and cats to go surfing in a way to pool. you don't even need the beach to go surfing anymore. raising money to raise awareness and pet euthanasia. look at how beautiful and fantastic those dogs and cats are.
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coppertone, the dioxin won. as did risky, the rescue cat. >> jesse: that's not really surfing. >> kennedy: they are getting rad. toes on the nose, burroughs. >> jesse: they even have the eclipse classes. >> jesse: jessica evans has spent the past year visiting her little brother every time she sees him. the adorable clip has gone viral. the 21-year-old north georgia student says that she likes to keep her visits at home a secret. she said at times he had absolutely no idea. she would hide behind her mom or her car and surprise them. very cute. so cute. >> jesse: i'm just upset because kennedy promised to make drinks for us after the show. and there was a very's national drink. what was it called? >> kennedy: "the snobby girlfriend." it's muddled strawberry and
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lemon. strawberry vodka, per seiko into a little bit 11a. >> jesse: that's it for us to. "hannity" is up next with a very special guest, host >> bret: the president's chief strategist is out and there is political fallout tonight. could a corruption trial give the g.o.p. another u.s. senate seat. and monday's solar eclipse, what you need to know. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ welcome back to washington, d.c. this is the second hour of "special report" tonight. i'm bret baier. president trump is working a little short-handed tonight as he tries to come up with a new plan for afghanistan. that is because this is chief strategist steve bannon's last day. bannon's controversial run is one of the president's top policy whisperers ends after a dramatic week of rumors and speculation. chief white house correspondent john rober
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