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solar eclipse occurs? >> the sun, the earth, the moon, they line up somehow? i don't know. i don't like science. >> hours away from the total solar eclipse, we hit the streets to test your celestial knowledge. watters' world, where sun's always shining, begins right now. welcome to watters' world, i'm jesse watters. big news coming from the white house. chief strategist steve bannon is out after months of controversy. joining me now is new rnc spokesperson caylee mckenney. now, i know steve bannon personally, i think he's a fantastic strategist and was very helpful as an adviser to the president during the general election and then in the white house. but apparently, he just became too much of a distraction? was that what you're hearing? >> look, you know, i can't speak to the inner workings of the white house, but what i will say is we value his crick, we value his time. anyone who serves, we value

that. he's out, he was a valuable contributor. he did have a solid point of view that was important in the white house, but it's one that our president has, these views on trade, on immigration. he echoed the president who has put this forward from the the very beginning, for decades actually. jesse: right, steve bannon did not elect the president, he was a good adviser. at the same time, i mean, steve bannon very aggressively pushed american nationalism, american economic independence when it came to china, when it came to trade, when it came to energy. and, you know, i think he was very crucial in helping the president pick off some of those blue states like a pennsylvania, michigan or wisconsin. when he leaves, do you see anything different in the white house. >> >> i don't because, you're right, those factory workers in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, they are the reason that president trump is at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. jesse: right. >> you can go back as early as

the early '90s, an oprah clip that president trump was involved in where he was talking about trade long before any of these -- jesse: that's true, and manufacturiing and america first. >> f that's exactly right. jesse: despite speaking out against the violence at last week's deadly clash in charlottesville, the left continues to attack the president. a missouri democratic state senator said this on facebook. i hope trump is assassinated. and when confronted about this, she refused to apologize. >> it was inappropriate. i've said that three times now. >> you apologizing for it? >> no. when the president apologizes for what he said, i'll apologize. but my -- >> your statement was inappropriate, you're not apologizing. >> it was inappropriate, it was wrong. i w posted it to my personal facebook page, and i deleted it. >> so you're not apologizing for it. >> no. jesse: so, caylee, if this was a republican state senator who had

said this about president obama, i think every elected republican official in the country would be forced to condemn this person, and the state senator would be out of a job like that. this woman still has a job. >> she still has a job, and where is the national leadership from the democratic party calling for her resignation? jesse: i can't hear them.re >> they're not there. jesse: i can't hear anything. >> where's tom perez? where's the democratic national committee? there would be as much pressure on the rnc to denounce someone, and ms. romney would who called for the assassination of president obama, let's say. we don't have leadership here. jesse: and you lose so much credibility when the leadership of the democratic party does not speak out when something like this happens on their side. i wanted to ask you, so you left cnn, and now you're at the rnc. were they nice to you over there at n cnn? >> off set, yes. but system of those interactions speak for themselves. [laughter] jesse: was anderson cooper mean

to you? was he ever -- >> he's a very nice guy. i love anderson. but, you know, there's no doubt about n it that there's a different perspective there. jesse: right. i just want to hang out with anderson, because i want to hang out with andy cohen. >> i believe we crossed paths when i was in the trenches of the dnc -- jesse: you and i. in the beautiful city of philadelphia, my hometown, the city of brotherly love, where the democrats nominated hillary clinton. >> that's right. what a great candidate, right? [laughter] jesse: thank you very much. last week in real news we told you about officer quincy smith, the south carolina cop shot four times and nearly killed while responding to a call on new year's day in 2016. the shooting captured in newly-released body cam video following the conviction of smith's assailant. >> stop! take your hands out of your

pocket. take your hands out your pocket. if you don't stop, i'm going to tase you. i'm noton playing with you. take your hands out your pocket! take your hands out your pocket! take your hands out your pocket -- [gunfire] >> shots fired! >> tell my family i love them. jesse: officer myth is alive and well, and he joins me now for his first prime time interview since the h shooting. so, officer, i can't believe it. that was one of the most harrowing things i've ever seenful thank god you're doing well. let me g ask you about what was going through your mind when you're approaching this person on thehe street. what were you doing there specifically, and what was he doing? >> well, when -- the reason i was this, i was called to, a call for service stating that, you know, the gentleman that was described which you see in the videotl awz attempt -- was

attempting to snatch another customer's groceries as they exited the store. and i went to the store and, you know, toto talk to the patrons that were there. and they told me the gentleman was standing over there by, next to a tree. jesse: right. >> so i noticed him over there, so i went to go approach him and talk to him. he started walking away and did not listen to any command that i give, you know? so then i, you know, drew my taser because no one said anything about a weapon, and no -- he pretty much just, it was more like he was just ignoring me and walking away. that was the reason why i didn't draw my firearm and drew my taser instead. jesse: and he had his arm, basically, in his coat it looked like fort a part of the time. >> yes. just jest when did you see that, before or after you drew the taser? >> i think i saw it slightly before i drew my taser. i'm not too sure, i can't really answer that. jesse: because his back is to you, so it's hard to see him. >> it's hard to see where his

hands was at the time. and then when i noticed it, i gave him commands to show his hands. i still didn't know what i had at time, you know, because usually as law enforcement officers, when we sometimes contact people, they just try to ignore us and everything. jesse: yeah. >> i tried to give him every opportunity to stop and talk to me before that, before the shooting happened. jesse: yeah, man. and you had the body cam on, so now everybody can see the reality of what happened. where did the bullet hit you? >> the bullet hit me in the neck -- well, the first, i didn't even know i got shot, you know, three or four times. only o thing when i was, during the time i heard a bang, and i felt the pressure on my neck. and it was enough force to knock me on my back. and the first shot, you know, he hit me in the neck. jesse: wow. >> i was trying to get back to my m patrol car for some cover o i could defend myself. i noticed my left arm was broken, and then i couldn't lift

up my right average i couldn't move it. jesse: well, officer smith, i'm so glad you're okay, and, you know, it's such a dangerous profession you're in, and you're justar making split-second decision the, and i'm just glad you're all right, and now this guy's behind bars for quite some time, so thank you very much for your service. we appreciate it. >> thank you. i really appreciate that too, sir. jesse: still ahead, a full solar eclipse coming up around the corner. we hit the streets, wait until you see this one. ♪ ♪ essences it's bio:renew a blend of sea kelp, aloe and antioxidants that help bring your hair back to life. herbal essences. let life in. (woman) there's a moment of truth.etes, and now with victoza®, a better moment of proof. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar

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terrorism must be stopped by whatever means necessary. courts must give us back our protective rights. have to be tough. isis has claimed responsibility for the attacks, but my next guest says they're not the only ones americans need to fear. >> the locals would snatch me up and kill me within an hour. i'dd be tortured first, and aftr they a were done torturing me, d probably beu beheaded. it would, you know, go on video for everybody to see as, you know, an example. jesse: steve spent 11 years in the middle east as both a marine and private contractor but was forced to flee iraq after a few months when he received death threats prompted by the video that you just saw. and he joins me now. so, steve, your point in that video clip that we just showed was that it's not just the isis

terrorists that hate americans, you're saying the local population in these middle eastern countries hate us just as much? >> yes, absolutely. the thing of it is is everybody seems too think and, you know, a while back they were saying is there a difference between radical islam and islam. there isn't a a difference betwn the two of them, they're both the same thing. it's the same ideology, and that's what they believe. regardless of whether or not you have, you know, isis or you have al-qaedau or the taliban, whatever those, whatever the groups are, it's still same ideology. they still feel the same way regardless. they're just actually committing the jihad because they're executing the plan whereas others haven't executed the plan yet, but they're still thinking about it.t. jesse: so you're saying even peaceful muslims in these countries, they're just jihadists? waiting to happen? >> well, the thing of it is is jihad is an event that is actually meant for them to do. i mean, it's the ultimate thing

to commit jihad for, you know, for these guys. jesse: all right. well, i think some muslims might disagree, but let's just talk about what happened here in spain. it seems hike the terrorists have really left alone the country of spain for quite some time. i mean, can't remember, i mean, the madrid train bombing years ago. why do you think all of a sudden spain's in the crosshairs? >> i think basically it's a training ground withro right no. that's. what i'm seeing. if you notice what's happening all over in the u.k., in the e.u. and now in spain and everything else, what's happening is they're perfecting their tactics, is really, really what they're doing. if you notice, a vehicle is being used almost every single terrorist attackt now. why? because they can't get the weapons. so they're usingt a vehicle to o it. they're practicing, they're debriefing each other afterwards to to see what worked, what didn't work, and spain just

happens to be the area that they did it in time because they're branching out and looking for other areas. see, they're not at war with spain, they're not at war with the e.u. or anything else, they're at war with world. jesse: so they're basically using spain and all these other countries in europe because of the proximity to the middle east asn a practice ground to maybe use cars ormi vans here in the united states? is that what you're saying? >> i believe so. this is a maybook, what we're look -- playbook, what we're looking at right now. this is their tactics, what we call ttps on exactly how they're going to do things. they don't have access to certain weapons and so on, so they're going to use what's available. jesse: yeah, they're weapon nizing vehicles. trump said we need to get tough by any means necessary. what do you think he means by that? >> well, i'm not exactly sure what he means, but i really would hope that he means that,

you know, citizens, you need to start paying attention to what's going on around you, your surroundings, and if you see something at a place, you've got to say it. if you see something that's out of place and you're not saying it, you're part of the problem. jesse: we know that's what happened in san bernardino. one of the neighbors didn't say anything because he didn't want to be accused of being antiplaintiff muslim. you have -- anti-muslim. you have a travel ban now in play. every time i see something like this in europe, most likely, it looks like another reason to institute travel ban. >> oh, 100%. i completely believe the same thing. if we don't lock down, the it's a proven fact that they're using refugees to infiltrate these countries. it's proven. they know it works. and even if they only get one in, you've got 1.8 billion muslims in the world, and, you what, 25% of them are

considered not good or radical. you see what one person or two people can r do -- jesse: i know. it's a numbers game. and we showed video last week on "watters' world" of a bunch of refugees a coming onto a beach n a boat out of the middle of nowhere in spain and just running onshore to god knows where. so, you know, they've got to tighten the borders somehow. you've got to have the sword here but a shield as well. steve, thanks for your service. >> thank you. i really appreciate it. thank you. jesse: still ahead, denver's going up in smoke. ae. church for weed has been erected. the pot pastor is on deck. but first, veterans affairs secretary david shul skin joins me -- shulkin joins me. can he fire bureaucrats now? he'll tell us. ♪ ♪

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♪ jesse: earlier this week the president signed a bill expanding benefits to our veterans and hold toking v.a. employees -- holding v.a. employees accountable for behaving badly. that's great news. but it was overshadowed by the violence in charlottesville. veterans affairs secretary david shulkin, who is jewish, offered his opinionen the controversy regard -- opinion on the atrophies regarding president trump's comments. >> i think he can speak for himself. i do feel as a american and is as a member of the cabinet that i can speak for my own personal opinions on this, and i am outraged by the behavior that i've seen with the nazis and the white supremacists. jesse: secretary shulkin joins me now. so, secretary, as someone that represents and works with a lot of veterans, how do you feel personally about some of these confederate war monuments being

taken down? >> well, at v.a. this has been an issueue for us for quite some time since we have confederate cemeteries as part of the v.a. and we can see from the events of this week that words matter, to respect people's opinion. so we've been very careful respect the historic aspects as well as respecting the way that these confederate monuments make people feel. and finding that right balance is exactly what we're seeing throughout the rest of country. jesse: that's a very challenging balance, and people are very emotional about it. good luck with that going forward. it's going to be a big issue, i believe. so president trump, and you guys have been working very hard many making the v.a. accountable. and besides investing a lot of money in new technology so the veterans can get the health care they need, you're now allowed to fire people. apparently, there was a guy watching porn who worked for the v.a., and you couldn't even can him? is that true. >> >> well, it was one of the

things that just really got to me when we had a doctor that was watching pornography taking care of a patient, and i wasn't able the fire them. and after that it really became clear that we needed to have the law changed. and now, fortunately today, we have new authorities to fix a situation like that. jesse: so you tried to fire the porn doctor who not only was watching t it on the clock, was watching it in front of a patient, andro who got in your way? >> well, it was the way the law was set up, and it didn't give us the authority to, for an offense like that, to be able to move a person out. and, of course, that's just not acceptable. we are going to be'l demanding a lot more of our people caring for our country's veterans. fortunately, we have the new law that will allow us to do that. jesse: that's fantastic. we know there's a decision soon on troop levels in afghanistan which will eventually trickle down the your department. and that's something that's going to be ain lot to the hand. and one of the things that is very important for a lot of

people and a lot of families are the use of painkillers. what is your sense of the level of prescription or overprescription of painkillers in the v.a.? >> well, there's no doubt throughout the country this is national crisis, a public health crisis. in the v.a. we actually noticed this and began to work on it in 2010, so we've seen about a 30% reduction in opioid use in the v.a --n jesse: good. >> and we've been working on this, and we'll continue to work on it to make sure that we not only effectively treat pain, but that we don't unintentionally get people addicted to these types of medications. jesse: that's precisely the right approach, and it must be fantastic to have a president who's so personally invested in v.a. reform. what has it been like to work with the v president on making things better there? >> as you know, as a candidate this was an important issue to him, and once he became president, hert has stuck on making the v.a. better. so it'sha great for me and great for our administration that we

have a president who gives us clear direction and gives us the support to fix the v.a. it's why we've been able to get five bills throughout -- jesse: that's great. >> -- through congress with bipartisan support. jesse: secretary shulkin, thank you very much, and i'm glad we're bringing much-needed reform to that department. >> thank you, jesse. jesse: first, it was confederate statues. now the left wants to take down jefferson and washington. a powerful watters' words up next. ♪ ♪ out. i want you to stay this bright blue forever, that's why you'll stay in this drawer forever. i can't live without you, and that's why i'll never ever wash you. protect your clothes from stretching, fading and fuzz with downy fabric conditioner. fading and fuzz with downy fabric conditioner. it smooths and strengthens fibers to protect clothes from the damage of the wash. so your favorite clothes stay your favorite clothes. downy fabric conditioner.

>> deck gregory was a trailblazer for black comedians. i'm mr already. now back to "watters world." ch e removal of a robert e. lee statue. >> this week it's robert e. lee, i in the stonewall jackson is coming down.

i wonder, is it washington next week and thomas jefferson the next week after that? you have to ask yourself where does it stop? jesse: "watters world" believes they are part of our nation's history and can serve as relics to reflect upon. leave it up to the people. what i don't like are radicals ripping statues down as you can see here. destroying an historical monument is what the taliban does, not american citizens. all of these confederate war heroes were democrats. democrats were the party of slavery. maybe the left wants to tear down the statues so the country forgets the democratic party enslaved black people. vice news tweeted this article. let's blow up mount rushmore.

a bust of abraham lincoln in chicago was torched, and he was the one who freed the slaves. chicago is in the land of lincoln. open a history book. angela rye said this. >> george washington was a slave owner and we need to call slave owners out for what they were. he wasn't protecting my freedom. i wasn't something, my ancestors weren't deemed human beings to him. i don't care if it's george washington, thomas jefferson or robert e. lee. they all need to come down. jesse: it's one thing to remove a statue of robert e. lee because he was only known as fighting for the south. but george washington and tom pass jefferson defeated the

british and founded the country. because they owned slaves does not define who they are. george washington is a bad guy now? we have to rename the capital? then there is the washington redskins. i always thought it was the redskins part that was offensive, not washington. then al sharpton said this about the jefferson memorial. >> when you look at the fact that public monuments are supported by public funds. and i would repeat the public should not be paying to uphold somebody who has had that kind of background. jesse: we finally found something al sharpton doesn't want to pay taxpayer money on. and why would he care where his tax dollars go. doesn't he owe the irs $10

million? and in now speaks up and wants statues removed from statuary hall. i don't remember her wanting the statue removed in the corridor of kkk member robert byrd. with reaction to my word and how we move forward is performing artist joy avila who has a new song "make america great again." and giano caldwell. >> i'm sorry this where we are right now. i hope the president learns a

lesson. it's disturbing. are you feeling better after that. >> i listened to your monologue and it sounds like you took all of my talking points and put them in your monologue. jesse: i didn't hear what you said. but i saw the crying. so let me just get your reaction. the left doesn't want the robert e. lee stuff. i understand that, it's divisive. let the people decide. when you go after mounted rush more? >> that's more of a difficult process. and i agree with your monologue. robert e. lee was a democrat of course. in addition i don't think we should be giving out participation trophies for those who didn't win something. slavery and the war were

divisive. in terms of letting local rule decide whether to let statues go. they are a part of history. i'm not a big believer in seeing them. people use them for cherished memories and identifying parts of what you care about if you will in terms of mount rush more, i don't think that's something we should do in terms of destroying mount rushmore. jesse: that will take a lot to do that. and there will be americans lined up in case someone does something silly? >> i any we should not get rid of these statues. just because we have a statue doesn't mean we are celebrating what happened. it commemorates a moment in history: just like we have a 9/11 memorial. trying to erase history is putting us backyard, not forward. jesse: as an african-american

woman. >> put them in museums. we can repeal and replace them like obamacare. jesse: they can't even do that. if they are going to repeal and replace like they did in the congress, nothing will happen. >> they are attacking the statues to get rid of them unlawfully in the middle of the night. >> and i disagree with that. jesse: let me throw a poll aught guys it looks like 62% of americans believe the confederate statues should remain. only 27% believe they should be removed because they are too offensive. the fact that the democratic party is going full force behind his on a losing issue, do you think it's going to hurt them politically? >> it's not just the democrats saying things. but i think it isn't going to

hurt them. there are a lot of people who believe it's divisive. we don't have any nat turner statues and he led the rebellion against slavery. jesse: instead of removing statues of confederate soldiers, what if they erected statues of prominent african-americans. >> i think instead of tearing down america, we need to build america up. we need to stop trying to destroy thing that offend us and put thing that celebrate what happened. hit was bad, that happened now what can we do to celebrate people who fought against slavery and ended the civil war. >> i just made my point for me. >> i made my own point. >> statues are used to celebrate. when you have got somebody who

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elevate people to a higher level and he opened the international church of cannabis in denver. is cannabis god to you? >> first let me correct misconception you might have stated. none of us worship weed. personal journey for them can be heightened and dean. we don't worship weed, we believe it is a sacrament that can help elevate your believe and understanding. jesse: people come to the church for church services. what would they do when they come into the church. >> we hold the services on friday evening. elevationists bring their own

cannabis into the church. we are all backgrounds and faiths. we created a home for people to use cannabis in their own journey to elevate their own spiritual life. we are a spiritual home for adults who use cannabis as a way to elevate their lives for spiritual purposes. the cannabis plant has existed for thousands of years. there are ancient chinese man sue scripts that talk about cannabis being used for spiritual means. you can be a practicing christian or buddhist to be an elevationist. jesse: how many people are practicing?

>> there are 3,000 wordwide. jesse: since you are a church, do you have a tax exempt status? >> we are a non-profit. we are in the process of become a tax exempt church. as our first amendment rights to practice our religion we believe we should be treated the same as all the other religions. >> the tea party gets targeted by the irs, but they will let the cannabis church slide right through. have you noticed a difference in colorado since marijuana was legalized? what is your sense of the mood in the city? >> it's really a non-issue. crime has gone down, murder rates have gone down. people who don't use marijuana in their daily lives?

jesse: crime has gone down. >> violent crime has gone down. the murder rate has gone down. the black market for marijuana is significantly reduced. we believe it has had a positive impact on the denver community. jesse: i'm glad you found higher meaning in your life. steve, thank you very much. testing your celestial knowledge ahead of this week's solar see clips. what happens if you have sex during the eclipse. >> pregnant. jesse: guaranteed? >> yes. [♪] from the first moment you met

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jesse: monday the country will experience a total solar eclipse for the first time in 99 years. we hit the streets to see how much they know about this scientific phenomenon. roll the tape. how are you preparing for the solar see clips. >> an eclipse party. a lot of wine and questionable decisions. >> anything edible. >> practice yoga. jesse: can you meditate with me right now? >> absolutely. breathing in.

what exactly is happening when the solar see clips occurs? >> the sun and the earth and the moon line somehow. i don't know, i don't like science. >> this new schedule is totally confusing. >> it's being covered by a bad planet called yahoo. >> the earth is between the moon and the sun. i might be messing this up. jesse: it's happening during the trump era. what do you think that

represents? >> they are trying to say trump is the anti-christ. i expected something bad to happen. but i didn't think the sun would melt or whatever. >> i don't know, i think trump has his own cosmic situation. jesse: what happens if you have sex during the eclipse. >> pregnant. >> i'm pregnant? >> with emotion? >> with a baby. [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] jesse: i'm watters and this is my world. theoretical fizzist mitch yoaf today you is here to -- michio

kaku is here to tell me more about the eclipse. where will you be during the eclipse. >> in missouri. jesse: is it going to be total darkness at that time of the day on monday? >> that's right. for two minutes and 30 seconds, the birds will stop chirping. animals will start to go to sleep. you will see the stars in the daytime. jesse: people say there is mass animal confusion during a full solar eclipse. >> their normal cycle is disrupted. so they think it's nighttime and they start to go to sleep. they center to go through the motions. jesse: ways the folk lower behind a solar eclipse?

>> it started in 1133. the son of louie the first died during an eclipse. that's when the folklore got started. jesse: you are supposed to look at the eclipse with these special glasses. but you don't want to look directly into the sun. >> you will get retinal damage as a consequence. you want the sun blocked out as much as possible. jesse: if you don't have these glasses, you could squint? >> even sunglasses aren't good enough so you will have to wait for totality when everything goes dark. jesse: find out my biggest

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is my world. reporter: welcome to justice. i'm lisa booth filling in tonight for judge jeanine pirro. thousands protest the con there are free speech rally in boston. a second police officer has died in florida one day after his col seeing was killed while out on patrol. joining knee now with reaction to all the breaking news, plus the latest big shakeup in the white house, republican congressman lee zelldon. i want to get your thoughts. steve bannon did an