>> i like him, he's a good man. he is not a racist, i can tell you that. he's a good person. he actually gets a very unfair press in that regard. finish but we'll see what happens. greg: i think we saw what happened. [laughter] ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] greg: thank you. my beloved fans. [laughter] all right. another friday, another one bites the dust. trump officials are starting to look like dodgers' fans. everyone leaving early to beat the traffic. [laughter] this time chief strategist steve

bannon. here he is leaving the building. ♪ ♪ [laughter] greg: he's a compelling person. now, his exit isn't really a surprise for a few reasons. one, bannon's been the flashpoint in trump's white house since day one. in his short but wild tenure, he raised more eyebrows than my eyebrow-raising farm. [laughter] the worst joke in human history. and i wrote it. most recently, bannon gave a wild interview to a left-wing magazine, and then he claimed he thought it was off the record. i don't know, that decision smells fishier than the bib collector in a crab shack.

[laughter] >> that was better. greg: that was better, marginally were the. my gut -- better. my gut tells me that whole thing was planned. plus, after this week they needed to do something. and last but not least, general john kelly's the chief of staff now, and he had to get things under control, and according to press reports, bannon's position was with under review by the general, and that's never good. the upside, the white house lost its chief strategist, but cable news might have gained a new host. [laughter] i can see it now, the bannon cannon! [laughter] [applause] right after mooch and company. [cheers and applause] mooch and company. right after morning spicer! [laughter] right after reince and repeat! [laughter] [applause] right after flynn, lose or draw. [applause] i just created a whole new lineup. what's that network called? i don't know.

so trump -- should trump replace bannon? who should he replace him with? personally, i think he should replace this fiery character with someone more soothing and less incendiary. i'm thinking ted nugent. [laughter] [cheers and applause] that'll work, huh? if he disagrees with you, he will hunt you down and kill you. [laughter] and then he will wear you, because he wears his own stuff. anyway, i kid. i really think it's time to get serious. we need this person now more than ever. i think you know who i'm talking about. ♪ it's friday, friday, friday, gotta get down on friday. ♪ everybody's looking for the weekend, weekend. ♪ friday, friday, getting down on friday ♪ greg: that is my punishment for you. that will be stuck in your head for the next few days. [cheers and applause] shall we welcome tonight's

guests? i think we should. he's so tough, his tattoos have tattoos, retired special forces master sergeant terry shafford. [cheers and applause] she goes by one name because that's all she needs. she's kennedy, host of "kennedy" on fox business. [applause] this cat has nine lives, and she hates all of them. cath -- kat timpf. [cheers and applause] and the path nonis his shoe box, former bodyguard and my massive side kick, tyrus. [cheers and applause] all right. terry -- >> sir. greg: the conventional wisdom of steve bannon, he's the dark night, he's an awful person. i'm skeptical of mob thinking. when everybody thinks the same thing, i think there's something else going on here.

what if he's just a great guy? >> by the way, always take a step back when the mob is doing that. i've got to say this about breitbart, you know? what bothers me about the whole bannon thing is everybody bought into he's a racist. really? david webb, our friend, sonny johnson, our friend, two of my three black friends right there -- greg: there you go. that's always a good defense, terry, when you point out your black friends. everybody goes -- >> what i'm saying, those guys worked -- come on, i'm joking. greg: i know. >> oh, you can say stuff but i can't. so those guys -- >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> okay, cool. >> those guys work for breitbart, oh, he's an anti-semite. joe pollack writes for him, ben shapiro, they had their falling out. brandon darby one of the best reporters in the country doing great work. what bothered me about the breitbart idea is that's a bunch of white supremacists. that's b.s.. i don't know what's going on

behind the scenes in the white house, i don't think trump knows. we'll see how it goes. but bannon and kellyanne conway, you could say they're instrumental in getting that guy elected. so i think it's interesting where he's going to go, everyone's talking about war. he could also fight that war against the people that he wanted to fight maybe outside the white house, i don't know. greg: who knows, kennedy. was this a good thing? remember, we thought general john kelly would calm everything down, and that didn't -- well, the news changed that, i guess. >> yeah. greg: how do you see this affecting the white house? >> you know that scene where the girl is passed out in larry's bed and he's got a devil and an angel on his shoulder? that's what i call the trump white house. when john kelly came in i thought, oh, there's the angel. and when the president listens to general john kelly, he will be appeal ogg to the better side of his nature. and i think that's what we saw monday when he, in the white house, gave the statement on charlottesville which was sort of a reboot from what he said

sort of clumsily on saturday which, you know, was problematic but not terribly offensive. he perhaps committed sins of to mission in the saturday statement. righted that on monday, should have just walked away. i think bannon, the little devil was like, no, no, no -- [laughter] there were some fine people at that rally, don't forget to say that. and it's really hard to find fine people marching arm in arm with neo-nazis, but that's just me being a bluff old traditionalist. greg: yeah. >> i think we're seeing a big difference between running a campaign, which is obviously critical in getting someone elected, and i think kellyanne conway and steve bannon, to their credit, came in and completely turned that campaign around. and they were the driving force that allowed the president to ascend to the white house. they tapped into the discontent in the middle of the country that both parties had completely ignored, and i think they were very smart in doing that. but i also hi there's a disconnect between running for office and governing. greg: that's true.

everybody has a different role, tyrus. >> yes. greg: what is your role now? >> well, i have two of them, right? greg: yes. [laughter] >> like i said, i didn't say much all week about it because the first -- when trump came out and he said what he said the paris thing, i didn't have much problem wit. maybe he should have -- i thought it was just naturally assumed that white supremacists were bad, so i kind of gave him a pass on that. kennedy's point, his speech at the white house was great. i think we're missing the point is that, unfortunately -- and this is donald trump's fault -- his feud with the media clouds his judgment, and he gets into, anding see when he gets upset and he feels he has to fight the prove every point he makes to the point where he ends up talking about one point. he fell for -- greg: they -- >> they lay traps. i've been in entertainment sports for a long time. media always lays traps. trump made an to mission, so they had their trap. they laid their trap, because

you don't hear all the stuff, they were screaming at him. he started defending his point, and instead of talking about what he needed, how we all should be banded together against anybody who preaches hate, he couldn't get there because his back and forth and one upsmanship with the media has hurt this country. he needs to find a way to bury -- he's got to let it go. he's not going to win that fight with the media because -- greg: yeah. they're not going to let go. >> he's won some, he's embarrassed them, he's made them look bad. this time they got him, and they got him good at the expense of the country. greg: good point. >> yeah, man. [applause] greg: kat, what -- do you think bannon's going to turn on trump? >> see, i think it's a good thing that bannon's gone, but i'd be worried about that. this proves -- but i worry about everything. greg: yeah, you do. that's true. >> this proves president trump does not have the anxiety issues that i have.

[laughter] we all had friends that we used to be best friends forever, and sometimes you lay awake at night like, oh, my god, they know too much. there's people who know too much. i've got two or three people i can't stand at all that know too much always invited to my birthday party because i don't want them talking. you know, or writing an article about me in breitbart or whatever. greg: i have a few friends like that, that i go, oh, my god, if they ever get interviewed, it's over. >> we all have people like that. >> i like their tweets and their facebook statuses. see, we're still friends, right? don't tell 'em the stuff. greg: i gotta say -- we've got to wrap it up, but i think, tyrus, trump could have done a better job, but i think the media knows how to bait him, and he lost his cool. >> yeah. greg: and when he loses his cool -- >> he becomes a 70-year-old grandpa who's yelling at his kids for playing on the lawn and forgets what it's about. >> and it's frustrating. at this point now the dude's got to know better.

it's not about trump, it's about kind of the agenda that he ran on, and that's still there. greg: and also expecting a moral pronouncement from donald trump is like demanding the gettysburg address from a jar of mustard. this is not why he was elected. >> right. greg: president obama was elected because, you know, people saw him as an inspirational figure. trump is a businessman. nobody -- i didn't come to him for moral support -- >> right. greg: and so when he's up there, i don't think he knows how to do that. when they say can you heal a nation, he's like, no, i can't heal a nation! what are you asking for? >> i can tell you how good my poll numbers was. >> you know, i was look back at some of the statements presidents had made, and you think about those defining moments. could you imagine ronald reagan just losing his mind when the space shuttle exploded? >> yeah. >> and if he went after hashtag fake news.

greg: the only thing is this contentious relationship is so beyond repair that there's nothing -- i think that what he did was perhaps a mistake, but it became a nuclear, you know, a nuclear explosion. and i think that's the way it's going to be. the media has grabbed onto that string from a sweater, and it's just going to keep pulling and pulling and pulling until there's no sweater left. and i don't want to see a shirtless donald trump. i have to go! [laughter] coming up, i've got some ideas on how we can prevent the next terror attack. and later, the guy who created all those insane pass words, computer passwords, now he says he was wrong. he's here, and i'm going to demand an apology. ♪ ♪ [applause] live-stream your favorite sport

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helping each other out. freedom and security go hand in hand. that's why we must always try to harden soft targets. when you hear commentators remind you of the low risk of attack, they do it from a safe space like here surrounded by guards and bulletproof glass which makes we wonder, why are we so special and you aren't? if you can major in physics, you should be able to major in security. but i fear it may be too late. the way we respond to terror, obviously, we are shocked, but shocked in a way that includes no context, no sense of history, no idea of why this keeps happening. and what might happen next. we treat it like an extremewet pattern -- weather pattern. we take in the visuals, decide it's unavoid and then return to our phones. and the media, hell, they get more outraged over statues which don't even move. terror moves. we've taken our eye off the ball, and i fear what comes next. what the next 9/11 be? the kind of spectacle we refuse

to fathom. when terror and technology wed, we will ask yourselves how this could happen and see this terrible period now as the good old days. [applause] terry, terry -- >> yes, sir. greg: you fight terrorists, and you fought them for a living -- >> 25 years almost. i just retired in october. greg: what are we doing wrong, what could we do better? >> you've got to give me more than 30 seconds, because i flew up to do this damn show. greg: we'll be right back. [applause] >> okay. here's -- i'm talking now about the home grown terror stuff. i've heard everything about everything else, and i've been doing that my whole life. sometimes you need to become what you aren't in order to protect and insure the future survival of what you actually are. that's principle behind self-defense and behind a lot of

war withs. we do it, but we don't want to. you do what is necessary. now, before anyone calls me an islamophobe, i've lived with arabs, i've trained their soldiers, i've fought, i've bled, i've watched them die. i've delivered their babies, inoculated their farm animals, and i've helped them the whole time. so don't ever call me an islamophobe because probably most of you have never done what i've done. here's the thing. you've got to understand what's going on over there. you've got to understand them. the talking heads, you don't know how these folks think. they are worried about their family, their clan and their tribe. they do not have a national identity. and most middle eastern countries are either kingdoms, theocracies or dictatorships. fast guard to the guys living here in the -- fast forward to the guys living here in the west. what do they care about? they hate the country they're living in, their words, not mine. they care about their family, they care about that group.

so anytime one of these guys does this, that whole family gets picked up and deported back to the country of origin. and i've got to tell you something, on way here today to, this isn't some america right, i do what is necessary. green berets are problem solvers. i talk to my driver coming in from the airport, he was from pakistan. we were talking back and forth in a friendly way, and i posited to him, and he said, that would work. they know what it is. and right now there's no impetus in the united states or the western europe countries for the muslim community as a whole to actually do something about this. because as soon as one of them kills, we mourn, we put up our emojis and tell the rest of them we love you, we don't want to hurt you. does anybody know what happened to the san bernardino family, the pulse nightclub killer, the boston marathon? they're all still here. greg: right. >> move them out. and take from them what they care about, and it will slow down if not stop. greg: good point.

[applause] kennedy, i bed you agree. -- i bet you agree. >> here's what i will say -- >> one more thing. if you don't want to do something like that, you are not serious about stopping terrorism, and you are tacitly admitting you're willing to accept a certain level of death. words don't help, witty stuff doesn't help. [applause] >> okay, but -- >> i'm sorry. >> no, i -- >> i'm done for the night. >> i will say i have far more respect for someone like terry who's actually fought for freedom. because the men and women who have worn the uniform for this country to fight for freedom, that is sacred, and that is a level that civilians will never understand. but that is something that we absolutely share. greg: right. >> and i think, you know, to your point, we have to have -- and i don't agree with your hysteria. yg dwrg i know. >> you have a way of selling security that is shortsighted and less informed than someone like terry who truly has been all over the world --

greg: i should travel more, you're saying. [laughter] >> absolutely. >> i didn't say that. >> but what i will say -- prg greg by the way, you didn't have to say short about sighted. >> i heard it. [laughter] imrg grg she is microadepressing me. >> what i will say is there has to be some nontraditional solutions to these problems that, hopefully, don't compromise civil liberties. but people who have actually been on front line have a way of thinking outside of the box, and we're scared to talk about and scared to implement in this country for fear of breaking cultural mores. greg: i think you're absolutely right. and i get my information from him and from people in terror intelligence, counterintelligence, all that stuff. i've got to get to this pair over here. kat? >> hi. greg: hi. [laughter] you are in the green berets. >> yeah, for 26 years -- greg: but it was a pop band. >> i started when i was 2.

i'm very talented in combat. greg: those were the green diapers. >> go ahead. obviously, i agree with pretty much everything that kennedy thinks and not many of the things that you think when it comes to this issue. i do think that, you know, a lot of the threat -- it's easy to get emotional about these things, but i don't think that good policy comes from a place of emotion -- greg: thank god you're not emotional. >> i'm incredibly emotional. i should never be in government. i'm not trying to be in government, i talk for a living. no, no. not me for president, okay in for real. [laughter] greg: i'm not running. >> never timpf, okay? for real. [laughter] but we have to make sure that we have to destroys our own freedom in in the process ourselves. we've got to make sure we don't take away our civil liberties, make sure we're not afraid to travel, have fun and live our lives. greg: i disagree with everything you've said -- >> so i should be president. greg: tyrus? >> sometimes you've got to be

the wolf to protect the sheep. i think that should go for everyone that is a home grown terrorist, your whole family got to go. so if you're an irish terrorist and you decide to blow up some stuff, you and the whole fam got to go -- >> i got no problem with that. right now we have a very specific enemy. >> i agree with you. >> i actually don't want big government surveillance. first of all, it's expensive, it's not effective, and it just doesn't work. i'm actually, my solution -- and, by the way, it's not emotional, i hope you don't think it is. it's heartfelt. i survived on the battlefield because i'm emotional. what i'm doing with this kind of idea is i'm putting it on them. it's up to you, community. i'm not going to surveil you. i'm not going to -- if you to do this, i'm letting you know, i'm putting you on notice what you care about is going to pay for it. >> people like you have a better sense of how people like that, normally a free society and -- >> you can't get request your head around it. >> and having stuff and opportunity, it dissuades people

from becoming murderous psychopaths. that doesn't work with jihadists. and we have to come up with ooh a new -- with a new way of replacing that ideology. and it's not necessarily killing thousands of people in the middle east. >> no. >> i don't think that works. and surveillance also to your point, the unintended consequence -- >> bad news. greg: got that go, guys. coming up, north korea, remember that? they backed down on threats to bomb guam. maybe the president's fire and fury tough talk wasn't so nutty after all? [cheers and applause] ♪ people would ask me in different countries that we traveled, what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm from all nations. it puts a hunger in your heart to want to know more.

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♪ ♪ greg: so remember north korea? wasn't it maybe nine days ago that we were going to war? [laughter] what happened? well, obviously, the news. and as coverage shifted to domestic strife, north korea blinked. kim jong un backed down on his threat the launch missiles at guam. perhaps because of this. >> north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire, fury. greg: fire and fury. [applause] [cheers and applause] there you go. which actually sounds kind of sexy, like a movie featuring my two favorite actors. >> in a world of unhinged

leaders and rogue nations, he made the ultimate promise to confront evil. >> they will be met with fire, fury and, frankly, power. >> but the world didn't know his secret plan. ♪ ♪ >> they were former las vegas acrobats. [cheers and applause] now they're the president's most trusted undercover agents. richard greco is steve fire, stephen baldwin is jack fury. they are fire and fury, and they've got the power to keep the earth from annihilation. with a special appearance by robbie risk. [laughter] [cheers and applause] greg: so trump is negotiating, but he's doing it in way that's not been done before. in short, for once we are the

nutcakes scaring the crap out of people. [laughter] this is what countries have been doing to us for decades. he finally returned fire, and while he may be pretty lousy at a tupperware party, he's pretty good in a street fight. here's why -- [laughter] have you ever seen "lethal weapon"? donald trump is martin riggs, unstable and scary. rex tillerson is roger murtaugh, stable and calm. and they always win, even with joe pesci. [laughter] but this white house isn't just the standard good cop/bad cop. it's bad cops with lots of good cops. you've got rex, mattis, kelly, you've got pence, that's four good cops. a relief after eight years of mall security. [laughter] and that's the point. [applause] what did, what did president

obama say to donald trump as he left? hey, by the way, watch out for north korea. okay, thanks, bye. [laughter] seriously, obama drops a bombshell and splits. he's like a cable guy who leaves your apartment after clogging the toilet. [laughter] i hate that. they always do it in my bathroom. [laughter] but at least trump's made some progress. he already got three factions -- china, russia and america -- the agree on sanctions. that's rare. the last time russia, china and the u.s. agreed on anything was that katy perry's last album sucked. [laughter] [cheers and applause] tyrus -- >> yo. greg: was trump right to talk tough on north korea? am i just correlating? >> my 3-year-old daughter k i would let her talk tough to korea. he doesn't -- he's been doing this for so long, you know? and i think probably the reason he backed down is because he wasn't on the news. [laughter] what'd he say this week?

nothing, they're talking about -- forget it then. [laughter] put the one missile back, we'll wait, we'll wait. no, they didn't bomb anything. crazy. greg: yeah. i get the sense, kat, that maybe we need two presidents, hike a mommy and daddy or two daddies or two mommies. i don't care because i'm really open. [laughter] but like one who soothes and one who is stern. and, like, you know, trump may be great at this skill, but maybe -- like i said before, i think he's great at this stuff, i don't think he's great at being the soothing leader. >> some people can be both. i can be both soothing and stern. greg: i've never seen the soothing. >> very soothing. [laughter] he was going to back down anyway, okay? i mean, the choice was either so i can do this, and i can get blown to smithereens, or i cannot and i won't. those are the, that's the easiest decision you could ever hope to face in your life, ever. ever. greg: i don't know.

>> other decisions are way harder, like do i get the good bagel place that gets my order wrong sometimes or the okay bagel place that always gets it right. now, that's tough. greg: this is tough. >> this is the first time he's been put in the position where he had to make that choice. greg: kennedy, do you think this is a different approach? >> for the united states? greg: yeah. >> yeah, the unpredictability and the little iron maiden, the stick he's going to beat him about the head and shoulders with perhaps? [laughter] no, i actually thought this was very smart on the part of the president, because this is what he said he was going to do with rogue foreign policy actors, that he was going -- he wasn't going to tell you what he was going to do, but he was going to be such a sociopath that they wouldn't be able to anticipate. and i think that unpredictability, which is what kim jong un always banks on when the bully was bullied, he sort of pooped his undies. [laughter] greg: he did. >> i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. the president came out and said

is, yeah, remember that whole fire and fury? he doubled down on that, and his instincts served him well there. but then when he comes out and does the whole tuesday charlottesville press conference -- greg: that's what i'm saying. he applies the same mechanics to both things -- >> no one wants to fight a homeless guy with a bag of dog poop. [laughter] because really you don't want to do that. >> unless you want to put it on youtube. [laughter] >> totally different thing. but trump, the trump administration deserves system credit for this, because you grew up, tyrus, we know as words are great. without the chain mail fist to back it up, it's just words. so you've got -- he's got to know that something bad's going to happen if he doesn't. >> smithereens. >> kind of what we were talking about earlier about the terrorism. greg: right. >> it's great to talk -- >> apparently to get you in trouble and lose your job. greg: all right. is that -- >> missing persons. >> yeah.

>> holy crap! we all knew that, by the way. >> no, we all didn't. [laughter] >> drummer for zappa? >> yes. >> i am so lost right now. [laughter] greg: up next, did women have better sex in the communiston p. ♪

♪ ♪ greg: at least the sex was good even if there was no food. that's the message of a horrendous new york times piece which snuck under the radar last week titled "why women had better sex under socialism." its author takes its proof from women living under communist rule in the eastern bloc writing, quote: although the communists never fully reformed domestic patriarch key, communist women enjoyed a degree of self-sufficiency that few western women could have imagined. never mind the waiting many line for toilet paper, stalin was

ahead of his time in gender equality and also death. which would make it comical that better sex somehow cancels out the horrors of communism except the numbers of dead make the article profoundly obscene. how blind editors must be to run story, or maybe they were just lazy and they didn't read it. we caught up with them for comment. >> it's from this massive grievance culture -- [laughter] that rewards the squeaky wheels of society. this is where we're at. greg: i'm glad they like the show. kennedy, you know what the times' excuse was? oh, this was an editorial. it was an opinion. but they still ran it, part of a series called the red century. >> yeah, the red century, of course, which was also for those of us who are first generation u.s. citizens, you know, my mom was raised in romania. it was a bummer of a place. living under the soviet union? it was awful. and, you know, sure, maybe the

certain times were great because you didn't have any freedom or money or opportunity to do anything else. greg: exactly. >> don't you think people would rather have, i don't know, had children and lived longer and had some sort of economic mobility instead of being persecuted and killed for their national background or their sexual preference? greg: it's crazy. >> they're so equal. this is great, you guys. thanks, communists. greg: kat, the worst thing ever in "the new york times," but i remember they still publish paul krugman. >> it was pretty bad. this was a line that said that western women were having, not -- western women were having less sex even though the people under communism were waiting in toilet paper lines. probably meeting tons of dudes in the lines, i don't know. likeing i don't care. socialism means you have to wait in lines for toilet paper. capitalism means i can press a button on my phone, and toilet

paper appears at my door magically. that's amazing. who cares about sex? is. [laughter] greg: i'm worried about your obsession with toilet paper. hey, tyrus -- >> hey, greg. greg: what do you make of this? >> i 110% support this thing because it's real. i don't know how many on this panel have been broke, but i have been. the one thing that makes it go all away is free sex. and the it's the greatest roller coaster, it's fun, nothing else matters. you're worried about the lighting with off, but for these ten or six minutes -- [laughter] we're going to have a blast. [applause] and i don't care where you are in the world whether you're starving, you're on a deserted island, one thing makes it were better, sex. [laughter] [applause] greg: last word, terry. >> i think it's time to bring it back. ask me right now about what i think of that article. greg: what do you think of that article? [laughter] >> yeah. there you go.

communist, communism is awesome for your love life. greg: there you go. >> starvation is too. greg: all right, up next, the guy who made pass words harder than calculus, has now changed his mind. i can't wait to tell him how he's made me nuts. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ greg: my next guest claims he was very wrong about something that has made my life hell more years. creating a strong password. you know, it has to be 8-12 characters, have a capital letter, some numbers, plus a special character like a dollar sign. and then as soon as you finally searedded it into your brain, you've got to change it and come up with something different! my next guest is the man who established those standards years ago and is considered the father of the modern password. but now after years of putting me through emotional hell, he says he was wrong and that new passwords can be a breeze. bill burr is the retired former manager at the national institute of standards and technology, and he joins me now. all right, bill, i have to say you a hero because you're

admitting a mistake, but do you know how many times i've hit my fist into my desk because of you because i can never get the password right? >> well, i've done the same thing because of me, i suppose. [laughter] probably at least as many times as you have. in my own defense, not the only -- i'm not the only one responsible for this. [laughter] i did write an influential standard that was not optimal. [laughter] greg: i love you! did you know -- it is so incredible -- i love the fact that you actually, are people going to listen to you and change? >> i don't know. the question is will administrators who run systems change. because they seem not to be too bothered by all this as far as i could tell. [laughter] i gave them things that they found ways or alternatives that they found ways to implement that were kind of perverse, i think, and not quite what i

intended. i just misunderestimated or -- i sound like george bush. [laughter] i underestimated the way things would evolve and the perversity of people setting these things up. greg: you know what it was? it was, it is so hard the put all that stuff together to come up with, like, greg is super awesome and excellent while using all these characters when, in fact, all you really had to do was just write a long sentence with words like lou dobbs is so had the in a speedo -- [laughter] if you do that, that's all you need to do, right? all you have tad is a sentence -- all you have to do is a sentence, right? >> yes, that would be pretty good. [laughter] it's easier to remember. takes a little longer to type. greg: yes. but i would never forget that. [laughter] >> around, if you -- on the other hand, if they make you change it every 90 days, it

would still be annoying. greg: yes. so are you saying that it's even pointless to change a password? >> i'm saying that that's overrated. i won't say it's never pointless. greg: okay. >> we have a hot more research now than we did when i did this thing in 2003. microsoft research, paul, a professor at carlton university -- greg: right. >> and these people have done a lot of research on passwords people actually use and come up with and how it plays out in real practice. and, frankly, while there was a little bit of stuff available in 2003, i was mostly just guessing about -- [laughter] greg: you were guessing. all right, last question. i came up with a good password system for myself. it consists of your name, your favorite body part, what i do on a first date and how old i look.

so my password would be greg's pecs yoga 27. >> well, that sounds pretty good. [laughter] greg: bill, thank you. thank you for being so honest, and i hope people listen to you, and we no longer have to go through this extremely stressful exercise every month. it really is hard on all of us. >> well, and this is some new guidance that is more relaxed about these things, and hopefully, people will follow it. greg: excellent. thank you, sir. all right, final thoughts are up next. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ you won't see these folks at the post office. they have businesses to run. they have passions to pursue. how do they avoid trips to the post office? stamps.com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. get a 4 week trial, plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. go to stamps.com/tv

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♪ ♪ greg: hey, i'll see you monday on "the five" at 9 p.m. eastern. we're running out of time, so -- >> what you've wanted to say all show but haven't had the chance to say so here here's your chano say it, right now. greg: kennedysome. >> well, greg, if you want to have a nightly romp with me

monday through thursday at 8 p.m. eastern, go to fox news.com/channel finder. if you don't have the biz, get it. when you've got it, join me monday through thursday 8 p.m. eastern on "kennedy." greg: ah, very nice. [cheers and applause] terry? >> hey, guys, i want you to know that we lost a green beret a couple days ago, sergeant coon butler. i want to thank his family for giving him to the regiment, and i will see you in valhalla, brother. [applause] thank you. greg: all right. tyrus? >> well, as you know, i have a part-time job in hell on preacher, so if you guys check that out on amc, that would be cool. and, oh, yeah, for those of you that watch impact, all one of you, i'm not doing it. i'm a holdout to, so i'm enjoying myself doing my real work with. enough said. greg: oh, wrestling feud.

i don't know what impact is -- >> no one else does either. >> i think it's aerobics. greg: i have all the tapes. kat? >> i cannot fall asleep anymore unless i'm watching a show about a murder. [laughter] greg: you're, you know what? that's called forensic files disorder. i have the same thing. >> or deadly women or women who kill or -- greg: i know. >> -- nightmare next door. there's a whole host of options. oh, wives with knives. [laughter] there's a lot more opportunities for women who murder people to get on tv than men. greg: it's because the guy, the narrator is so soothing. >> his name is peter. >> wait, does murder, she wrote, count? greg: no. special thanks to terry, kennedy, tyrus, kat, our studio audience. i love you, america. [cheers and applause] ♪

regular sunglasses will not cut it. >> more racially charged protests a week after the horrific events in charlottesville. the demonstrations largely ending on a positive note. i'm kelly wright in for kelly banderas, you are watching " the fox report." a handful of protests are taking place across the country, the biggest in boston. despite some tense moments between officers and protesters, the city is praising all parties involved after a massive, mostly peaceful counter-protest in response to what was billed as a freedom of speech rally organized by conservatives. police arrested more than two dozen people out of the estimated 40,000 that took to the streets. mayor marty walsh expressing