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commitment moving forward. >> reaction positive the president's own party. "hanni "hannity" continues and a special edition of "the five." >> welcome to "hanity." president trump offered a new agenda for afghanistan. >> he stood where thousands of brave men and women who fought and died for our country are laid to rest. the speech was delivered perfectly to the right tone and caden and pitch.
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the plan is on principled realism and proved he's willing to listen to the advice of the men and women on the ground. the generals on the ground that really win wars. watch this. >> my original instinct was to pull out and historically i like following my instincts. but all my life i heard decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office. >> president trump outlined the number one goal is the safety and security of american people and not foreign-nation building. watch this. >> we will no longer use american military might to construct democracy in faraway
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lands. we are not asking others to change their way of life but to pursue common goals that allow our children to live better and safer lives. this presence principled realism will guide our decisions going forward. >> and said the days of spending in military conflicts are over. >> america will work with the afghan government as long as we see determination and progress. however, our commitment is not unlimited and our support is not a blank check. >> not a blank check. president trump then pressured the countries in the region it's their time to step up and they have to pay their fair share. take a look. >> we'll ask our nato allies and global partners to support our new strategy with additional troop and funding increases in
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line with our own. we are confident they will. since taking office i have made clear our allies and partners much contribute much more money to our collective defense. and they have done so. >> and as commander-in-chief he's refusing to telegraph our military plans to america's enemies. this is refreshing. take a look. >> conditions on the ground not arbitrary timetables will guide our strategy from now on. america's enemies just never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. i cannot say when we are going to attack but attack we will. >> now, after outlining his new plan for afghanistan, president trump made a powerful call for unity in america and of course made his opening statement obviously gierd at the tragedy
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in -- geared at the tragedy in charlottesville. take a look at this. >> when one part of america hurts we all hurt. when one citizen suffers an injustice we all suffer together. loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. love for america requires love for all of its people. when we open our hearts to patriotism there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry and no tolerance for hate. >> we'll have more later on the program with newt gingrich and we saw the government in governor mode. we saw an onslaught of unprecedented attacks. if i had any advice for the president, that using the power of the pulpit to advance his
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plan with good cadence this is time for the agenda, the agenda and this is the great first step. the power of the presidential pulpit is beyond description. and you take the unrelenting media attacks and you think about fixing america and keeping us safe and secure there's no boundaries to the incredible things that can be done for this country and for the world. we saw tonight is the president is better soft. it's time to get back to work after labor day and not step on the win. joining us is the former u.s. ambassador to the u.s., mr. john bolton. we'll start with you. your general impressions. i like a lot of things about that. i don't like nation building and an unlimited budget and others not doing their part. i don't like the fact other presidents telegraphed pulling out and people sit and wait to
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go back to their nefarious activities. >> it's a dramatic change from the obama administration. that's the most important thing that comes through clearly in a lot of respect. much of what the president said is right. he won't have artificial time limits and won't negotiate with the taliban until presumably they've been sufficiently beaten back so they negotiate on our terms. he said to the troops they'll have the necessary tools and right rules of engagement. nonetheless, i think there's a couple critical points while the speech rhetorically was fine we need to see how it plays out. one is afghanistan in changing the policy. one of the pillars of his new policy. i think afghanistan will be won or lost in pakistan. i certainly think more pressure on the government there because of its support for terrorist groups them safe haven in pakistan is welcome. but let's be clear, pakistan is
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a nuclear power. to see them tip into terrorist control would give them iran on steroids. pakistan wouldn't have the capability without china. china has as part of the one belt, one road initiative increasing the influence in pakistan and put more to the country than we do. it's time to say to china if you want better relations with the united states convince pakistan to give up the taliban safe havens and seriously renounce terrorism. >> i agree with you. remember what china has been doing with north korea.
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they launch first they will not be there for them. the cancelled the coal shipment after the president met with president trump. apparently 30-minute meetings went on for three hours. i want to go over the president's words. he talked about winning a war. obliterating the enemy, empowering generals that are on the ground and as large as on the field. you can't make these decisions from washington. you can't telegraph what they do. my complaint, vietnam 50,000 of america's greatest buy and we pull out because politics. we begin to view war through the prism of politics. iraq and afghanistan, they were both equally politicized. you cannot politicize war but if we want to defeat radical islam
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and we see attacks we better take it seriously there to prevent it here. i think it's a good strategy. >> remember, barack obama said in the war on terrorism we won't have something like the end of world war ii with the surrender signs on the back of the missouri -- >> and handcuffs on the as large as soldiers. in his rhetoric we're fighting in afghanistan to defend afghanistan. that's incidental to the reason. we're there to protect america from the terrorists threat. when you say there's no blank check for afghanistan in terms of nation building i agree with that but we cannot believe our defense ultimately rests on afghanistan. if that's the case we have real trouble. >> but it's part of the war on terror. he address had too and talked about secure borders and about a
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policy at home which we'll get through throughout the night. ambassador, thank you for being here and joining us now with more reaction the host of war stories. colonel oliver north. you have a couple purple hearts from vietnam and i know you lost a lot of friends in vietnam and now people buried at arlington. i know it's a raw issue with you because i heard you give speeches and seen you tear up and your heart breaks for these families. the biggest thing i heard tonight was obliteration, winning, taking the handcuffs off. letting the generals and the guys on the ground decide and no longer was it going to be about nation building and no longer will we have these ridiculous rules of engagement. >> first time we have a definition of victory obliteration and preventing the taliban from taking over and stopping terrorists. straightforward and good stuff and the right thing to say in
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the aftermath of the eight years of the previous administration. he'll shift from a time-base to condition-based decision and implement the economic and military strment instruments of power and put pakistan on notice. and it's all long overdue. obviously this is going to make a difference. here's the problem, we've now had 17 generals running the war in afghanistan. i've been there. you and i have been on the air more times than i care to count. >> every time you've been on the road in a war zone you and i have a special code we send back and times which is mean on my part. >> we'll save it between us. i'll have one of those steaks yet. he talked about the rules of engagement for waging the battle. no place to hide for terrorists
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that includes across the border in pakistan. he talked beautifully about the courage and perseverance of those i've been covering for the last 16 years. the idea, however, of following the same course of action on the ground that 17 generals including general nicholson there now may have pursued may not be the thing to give us the results we'd like to have. i was pleased he did not mention and did not talk about the idea of conducting glan -- clandestine operations. we've had 20,000 wounded. i spent time with a number of them in the place that's got old faithful in it. we spent almost a $1 trillion. we will spent almost $50 billion
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this year. you have to say we'll look at other tactics on the ground. maybe a hybrid of what was presented last weekend up in camp david and what was announced and a straightforward troops on the ground and expectations have you for allies to step up to the plate. i think it was very positive. i think it was unlike anything -- >> let me ask you this. when the president talked about going against his own instinct base ond wh -- based on what he learned and things you only learn as being president and every one of my military friends was writing me ecstatic tonight. those who served especially under obama. oh, we're not going to telegraph. the rules of engagement are going to be on? you mean we can fight a war and not get accused of killing the
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enemy. >> i remember the last president announcing a troop surge and then next day he went to u.s. military academy at west point and announced when they were withdrawing. this president has said, it's a conditions-based withdrawal. he hasn't given a specific number of troops he'll put in there. that's very important. it sets our adversaries on notice they can't simply fight us and wait us out. in other words, it's not a time-driven strategy. that's a very positive thing. not withstanding what was said about pakistan, it puts them on notice. the rules of engagement are now changed. they're defined not in the quarters of power in washington but out on the battlefield. >> colonel, listen, i know your love of the military and have been out on the road with you and in hospitals with you so i know your commitment is beyond
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anybody i know. this i think is important, though, why would any president in the case of obama ever telegraph what we're going do? he's not saying how many troops or what we're going do. he just promised overwhelming use of military force and decisions made on the ground by the people who know best. >> the right thing to say and i'm not talking about president obama but president trump. i hope the strategy allows room for, if you will, new ideas for the plan of putting non-u.s. advisors who work with the afghan troops on the ground >> covert operations. plausible deniability. >> and he didn't talk about it which i consider to be a great thing. some people were thinking he ought to reject it out of him and people on previous shows said reject it out of him and i
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consider that to be a positive thing. this speech needed to be given. it was the right thing to say and plays respect to those who serve and credence to their sacrifice and perseverance. >> there are people serving jail terms now. clinton morantz is one name that comes to mind. and before he was a platoon leader he was tasked with dealing with a platoon in the prior week or two lost people that were their brothers literally right before and guys on motorcycles charging the troops, wouldn't listen or stop. he has to make a split-second decision. he's now spending time in jail this guy, 20 years. that's the kind of guy i'd like to see get a pardon. >> this is a commander-in-chief
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who love those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line. he said you learn more when you're sitting in the chair. that's a remarkable -- no previous president said that since ronald reagan. i have great respect for a president that can do that. >> good luck to you and my promise continues for this appearance. >> semper fi, buddy. >> when we come back, michael waltz, tony schafer will react and my opening monologue straight ahead. woah. flo and jamie here to see hqx. flo and jamie request entry. slovakia. triceratops. tapioca. racquetball.
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>> president trump: decisions on the ground not arbitrary timetables will guide our strategy from now on. america's enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. i will not say when we are going to attack but attack we will. >> sean: that was more from president trump earlier tonight. joining us on the phone calling into us the afghanistan ambassador to the u.s. is with us. sir, i'm glad your watching.
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i'm dying to hear your thoughts. tell us what you thought of the president's speech tonight. >> thank you. we welcome the president for a strong u.s. relationship in the fight against terrorism. >> sean: we don't have endless patience and money. to what extent will the region meet their own challenges, sir? >> this is the first time the focus has been put on what afghanistan needs and we're grateful for the outcome. president trump has given afghan what it is hoping for including an expanded authority for troops to target criminal networks and
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terrorists or pakistan sheltering the terrorists and a shift from arbitrary timetables and letting conditions on the ground determine military strategy. >> sean: mr. ambassador, the president was very clear. the american people must see progress. this is not a blank check as he said and you have to carry the share of the burden. my question is will afghanistan and pakistan bear their fair share because the patience in the american people are rather thin right now? >> absolutely. pakistan wants an enduring outcome for our own sacrifices. we're thankful for the sacrifices of the american people and the americans who come here and work with us shoulder-to-shoulder with us against our common enemy. we have also made a tremendous amount of sacrifices and
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continue to be determined, to defeat terrorism on our soil. and to work with our partners analyst united states and nato allies to ensure the states that sponsor and shelter terrorists also understand it's in their interest to work with us. >> sean: i wish thank you best with a humble heart, america will help you to build the better country but this is not about nation building or changing your way of life and it's really going to be up to you to sort out a lot of evil that exists in that country. the taliban must be destroyed and you're going to have to bear the burden of the bigger fight of that sacrifice as it's your region of the world. do you understand that sir? >> afghanistan is committed to reform in our security sector and throughout. we do understand and are working extremely hard to ensure that we take control of this war and we
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have been doing so. we have a four-year plan that will be complimented by this american strategy in order to defeat terrorism and at the hands of the afghans. we are committed to this war and doing everything we can to ensure we play our part in defeating our common enemy. >> sean: as you know we believe in america that we are endowed by our creator and all men are created equal. we pay for your country it gets the freedom people can then flourish to be the people that god intended them to be. we wish you the best under difficulty circumstances and we have to protect our country and we will. thank you for calling in. joining us lieutenant colonel walsh and tony schafer. general, what's your take on
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this? >> relationships are everything in this part of the world. for the ambassador to call in to your show right after the speech speaks volumes to me and when i was working side by side with the mayors of towns and our soldiers side by side with soldiers and law enforcement personnel working with the police it's a team effort and that's what he said. the one thing i really appreciate about the president's speech was at the very beginning he honored our as large as, sailors, airmen and marine and pivoted to ask every citizen to honor them he did in his speech and talked about an honorable outcome. those three pieces set the stage talking about how divided we are as a nation and we need to come together to support our troops
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overseas. >> sean: as a country we need to be together. i thought it was a perfect beginning to the speech. you compare the military to clearly referencing the events to charlottesville and the country being divided in recent weeks. if i could, lieutenant colonel schafer what are your thoughts on this? i want the people in afghanistan to have what we have but this is not endless support. we're not going to try to change their values but they'll have to fight for their freedom. we're are trying to assist them and we've sacrificed a lot of for them. >> the enduring outcome is to seek from keeping terrorists have a safe haven. i wrote a book about the turning point going to counterterrorism. i love the ambassador calling in but we don't have to believe we have to support a central
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government. this say land of war lords. we won afghanistan in 2001 by working with militia forces. we have to govern space where's terrorists go and go back to offensive operations. i love the talk about leveraging india. it's not just about pakistan, it's about china. now india is a big competitor against china. he's playing the india card which is very wise. the bottom line is we have get back and it's a good move. >> sean: we didn't know the ambassador from afghanistan was going to call in. what did you think of the exchange i had with him? >> with ambassador mohib, sean? >> sean: yeah, the ambassador. >> he's a great representative.
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he is thrilled to hear what he didn't hear under the obama administration which is we are with you. we'll stand shoulder to shoulder. our soldiers with your soldiers to defeat a common enemy. whether it's the taliban, al-qaeda, isis or the haqqani network they're all there to undermine afghanistan to attack america again and under the obama administration it was well, we're in but we'll be out in a few years. i was on the ground when he announced the surge but told the world and enemies when they would withdraw. the taliban weren't really our enemies but the al-qaeda is. he put all kinds of handcuffs on our troops. he wouldn't allow our pilots to drop when they should. i think the ambassador was thrilled to see us stepping up to the plate and calling pakistan out for what they're doing. >> sean: well said. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. we didn't know the afghani
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>> sean: welcome back to "hannity "hannity." proteste protesters were in boston this weekend and as the president said it's time to come together as a country. that's tonight's -- a little delayed open monologue. earlier president trump issued a powerful call for unity after the tragedy in charlottesville. was the media watching? >> president trump: when one part of america hurts we all hurt and when one person suffers an injustice we all suffer
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together. loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. love for america requires love for all of its people. when we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry and no tolerance for hate. >> sean: now, this weekend in boston we saw a massive demonstration to stand up to bigotry and hatred. 40,000 people showed up and the vast majority were peaceful. very tiny violence. the boston and governor of massachusetts deserve a tremendous amount of credit and praise. it was clearly all hands on deck and they were there for the people in their city and state. everyone involved did their best to keep the peace and respect people's first amendment rights which is so important to all of us and i also want to praise the protesters.
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99% plus you see of protesters there, tens of thousand showing up were peaceful. 99% stood up for something that all conservatives, that i know, and all republicans i know, and the president i know finds re g repugnant and is hate and people didn't let the agitators create chaos. this is what we should do as a country but the opposite happened last week when the media used the tragedy in charlottesville to bludgeon the president. we showed you video after video going back for decades, president trump condemning hate and white supremacists and david
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duke and tape in 1991 denouncing duke on larry king live. it's time for the liberal media and democrats stop playing the race card. stop using this for political advancement and dividing the country further. this happens every two to four years. i've been playing the tapes over and over over the years and will probably play them tomorrow night. elect republicans and it's like with my father and al gore. they don't want to count you in the census if you're african american. it's time to stop spreading the false narrative because it's only tearing the country apart. the president is in governing mode and now is the time through december, agenda, agenda, agenda. get the agenda accomplished.
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i hope congress was watching tonight and understand the american people expect them to do their job. here now author of the new york times' best seller understanding trump, fox news contributor, newt gingrich. i said at the beginning tonight the power of that presidential pulpit is so powerful. as the president was speaking i was thinking especially in the beginning when he addressed how the military is and at times the country's so divided and how much -- we can't begin to measure the good done if the country ever united. >> well, i look at two different things about tonight. one, you're exactly right. this is a moment in speaking to the country as the president of the whole country. speaking to the president as the commander-in-chief. if he were to take that tone
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tomorrow into yuma, arizona and on to the veterans of foreign affairs or american legion convention the following day, that's the tone that brings the trump presidency up to historic proportions. tonight he did it as close to perfectly as he could. there's another part i'm proud of him and i think it's hard to imagine how difficult it is. he's a very strong willed person. he said i normally historically do what is my first instinct but says being president changes things. he had the courage to stop and pick the right advisors and listen to those advisors and ultimately go down a trail that was not the one he thought six or eight months ago he was going on and to be honest with the american people what he was doing. this is one of the most honest national security speeches of my
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> >> sean: we continue with former speaker of the house, newt beginning britc-- gingrich. we addressed the issue. i like when he said let's bring the country together like our military's together because we don't are time and talked about rules of engagement and talked about paying their fair share and he adapted and learned and
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we don't have unlimited patience and a blank check and talked about the hallowed ground and winning and obliterating them and blowing them away and nowhere to hide. and we're not going to try to nation build. thoughts. >> i think first of all i see most decisive national security speech since ronald reagan. it's much more direct and focussed than any recent president. it's established ground rules which knowing how president trump operates he intends to really enforce and knowing how secretary mattis and general kelly and general mcmaster and secretary tillerson operate they'll tillerson. the first big one is we're coming after you. he's saying that about the
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criminal gangs and isil and the taliban and saying to pakistan, do not believe you can provide safety for any of these terrorist groups he mentioned 20 by name, the president did in his speech, and he's really serving notice. we reserve the right to go after them wherever they are and if you don't clean up the northwest territories we will. he didn't say it quite that undiplomatically but that's the underlying meaning of the speech. >> sean: and i like the fact he said to the generals the troops will decide. they're the ones on the ground. they know better than anybody in washington, d.c. not telegraphing times and troops. you don't give the enemy a timetable for leaving. i saw and said a lot about the people in boston, 99% were peaceful. there's a kid with a trump hat and someone knocked his hat off
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and others said no violence. leave this kid alone. he has the right to his opinion too. had a few agitators but the overwhelming majority peaceful and the president tweeted he's glad they protested against bigotry and hatred and the media never gives him credit and every two to four years we see this card played by the democratic party. you've seen it in politics your whole career. >> if the president can stay disciplined and focussed and be as presidential as he was tonight charlottesville they be a great turning point. the president's now paying attention to communicating to with 80% to 90% of the people. he won't get the last 10% that
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are hard-lined left wingers but there are liberal americans who want america to succeed, who really want to find a way to be positive. people come up to me every day that are democrats and liberals but they want to find a way to work together because they really love america. i think to the degree he emphasizes being the american president and has to think about this in terms of his speech, if he goes to a campaign rally type of speech he'll undo the impact of tonight. tonight he was truly the president of the whole country and truly a command in -- commander-in-chief for all americans. >> sean: i think the next few months are crucial and i would stay focussed on agenda. right idea, wrong idea? >> you're exactly right.
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i would stay focussed on being presidential. for example, when they write the tax bill, they should be trying to get the democrats to understand if you're a north dakota democrat or missouri democrat up for re-election next year you may want to find an excuse to vote yes on a tax cut. we need to look at this as the president of the united states trying to move the american economy forward and let thig democrats help grow the economy. >> sean: thank you for staying up late with us. when we come back president trump will hold a rally in arizona. will the conduct a pardon? he might. we'll have more straight ahead.
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arpaio. >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." joining us attorney greg garrett and larry elder. you wrote he may pardon joe arpaio. >> he was convicted of a
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misdemeanor criminal contempt for failing to fully follow the law of a judge's order to stop illegal immigration questioning and potential detaining of illegal immigrants. when i spoke to to the president a week ago he was incensed about the treatment of joe arpaio and may pardon him which would coincide with tomorrow's rally in phoenix. >> sean: i've seen the left and their comments and social media. listen, if the president cured cancer tonight, if the dog bites the bee stings and you're feeling sad it's all trump's fault in the world of the media. >> they're already blasting away
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at the possibility president trump may pardon sheriff joe. we both gave a speech at the nixon library and i often ask about the pardon stuff and he said he hasn't asked but would take it if it's given. it's not a top agenda for the base. the top agenda for the base are things like tax reform, infrastructure. >> sean: should he do it? >> i would say wait if on appeal, wait. >> sean: wait or do it now? >> i'd do it right now. there's ample justification for it. >> sean: love you both. sorry i cut you short. more "hannity" after the break.
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♪ >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." quick programming note, make sure to get up early, "fox & friends," ainsley earhardt will be interviewing the vice president mike pence, tomorrow, 6:00 to 9:00. as always, we thank you for being with us.
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the show will always be fair and balanced. i like the role reversal. guess what? tonight, i get to throw to my friends on "the five" with a special iv dish or next. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. ♪ >> dana: hello, everyone. i am dana perino. along with kimberly guilfoyle, jesse watters, greg gutfeld, and ed henry, it is 10:00 and it is "the five." ♪ president trump take some of taliban, the nation's 45th president addressing the country tonight, laying out a strategy in afghanistan, where america has been fighting for nearly 16 years. the longest military engagement in u.s. history. if the cost of the war has been high, over 2,000 americans have died in the conflict and 20,000 have been wounded. and that is a nothing of the