>> melissa: we are going to see you back here in an hour, what do you think? >> jon: we have some good stuff coming, "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. president trump unplugged. he delivered a fiery performance and his rally last night. he spent a good chunk of time going after the mainstream media's coverage of his comments. this is "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith. from fox business, dagen mcdowell, commentator and former spokesperson for president george w. bush, mercedes schlapp is here and today's #oneluckyguy, it's his first time. republican strategist general caldwell is here. fashion is your friend.

>> gianno: wow! i'm very ready and i'm glad to be on the air with you all. i've been on the air with everyone and i've interviewed you for extra tv. >> harris: let's do the newest. president trump of the words for his base last night. in phoenix, he spent nearly 30 minutes defending his response to charlottesville racist, violence and hate. while bashing the mainstream media and the process. watch. >> what happened in charlottesville strikes at the core of america. i spoke out forcefully against hatred, bigotry and violence and strongly condemned the neo nazis, the white supremacists, and the kkk. i openly called for unity, healing, and love. they all know because they were there. what do they say? it should have been sooner, he's a racist. it should have been sooner, oka okay. i hit them with everything.

i got the white supremacists, the neo-nazis, the kkk. i got them all. they're having a hard time. it's time to expose the crooked media perception and to challenge the media for their role and fermenting division. >> harris: trumps critics say he mischaracterized the comments about charlottesville and one even called the speech disturbing. why did this last night? >> gianno: it's a lot to unpack what happened last night. for anyone who doesn't know, i've been a defender of the president where i believed appropriate since the primary general election and of course come up until last week. president trump, we know he's a free wheeling guy, but at this time, the president has to be held accountable and i think for my fellow republicans, it's time to really hold him to account because what he did last night

in terms of inserting charlottesville was not okay. i don't think it was the appropriate environment. obviously he had a very tough week last week and arguably one of the worst weeks in his presidency, but the crowd was a jovial crowd. race is a very sensitive issue and there were a lot of people impacted by his comments last week. obviously it was very much impacted by it, but this was not the right tone, tenor, or environment for this conversation. >> harris: i see so many nodding heads, i'm sitting with you, mercedes. >> mercedes: there is moments in a presidency where you have to step back, where you have to take a pause, where you need to reevaluate and say, how can i heal this nation? you bring parties together, you bring diverse religious leaders, you bring civil rights back, you have these conversations in a serious way. this is a rally setting, this is a discussion that we've seen a

tragedy happen in america and so part of the healing process is bringing these parties together in the white house to have these discussions. listening, reaching out, that's more effective. when he talked about afghanistan this week, he went directly to the military officers, basically had a very serious tone. i think the campaign rally is simply not enough to deal with the sensitivity of this topic and helping to deal with improving. >> harris: i bring it up because some who support the president would make the argument that the first family and civil rights, the king family, standing right by the president's side. dagan, your thoughts? >> dagen: part of the issues where the president's tone. he talked about unity, healing, and love, but it was about him defending himself against people who took issue with his repeated responses to the violence in charlottesville. i must admit that my whole

family lives in and around charlottesville, this is where i grew up, so we were very disturbed from night one to see neo-nazis, klansmen, white supremacists marching with torches. when we didn't hear an initial response of i condemn these people by name, that was bothersome. it's deeply frustrating and upsetting, but i will hold this president to the same standard that i feel like i set for president obama. time and again, for 8 years, i criticized the president for surrounding himself with people who adored him and bathing in the adulation and the applause of these campaign style rallies and also, never calling our enemies by their names, never calling out radical islamic terrorists.

he's spoken to more people and call our enemies by name. >> harris: we knew that would be how the audience would be stacked, that's what it is. one of the things we had talked about with the speech and i wonder if it happened this way. did the president effectively step on the success he had the night before or was it a continuation? >> sandra: i would challenge all the responses that we've had on the couch so far, is this response that i'm hearing on the couch in line with the way his base is responding today and last night? you took to twitter to ask my question. you have a lot of supporters following you, what was the reaction that you heard from people that you are in touch with every day? they are he is a fighter. the base feels like he's standing up there fighting for them or did you hear otherwise

last night? >> gianno: i posted that on my facebook and twitter and i got mixed responses. i got a lot of folks supporting president trump, i've got folks who support some of my rhetoric, if you will. they understand that i'm coming from a very different place than most others who talk about this issue. i've heard he's a fighter, that was a bad speech, it was horrible. i've heard all kinds of things. my take on it is president trump must understand that these issues aren't to be discussed in these kinds of environments. i know people have said we don't need to have a conversation on race in america. we need to understand each other and that dynamic isn't being played out much. >> harris: i think it's important, the president had some important things to say about the nation's longest war on monday night and we've been focused on that and he wouldn't want to step on that message,

you would want to probably continue the conversation. how do you think those two messages, monday and tuesday night flowed together, mercedes? >> mercedes: i think the president did a very effective job in his afghanistan speech, and terms of the tone and the message itself. listening to his military, taking a stance. this other setting was more to rally the base, to let them know that he is a fighter and so when you go into the red meat of the speech, the border issue, you going to tax reform and basically going after the republican establishment, it is very effective for the base and the base agrees with him. they want him to go into washington and make things happen. >> dagen: maybe he gave that speech last night because he rescinded on promises he made on the campaign trail with regards to afghanistan. last night, he's still campaigning for a job that he

already got. i know his supporters because they've called me all sorts of names all morning long, some you can see on tv, some you can't, but i think what is important are people who are supporters of his who voted for president trump, like this guy we spoke to this morning, bob fleischer, he is from toledo, ohio, he is a small business owner. he said that president trump doesn't want to lose people like me who helped him get elected. he wasn't happy with the speech last night. >> mercedes: he also said i want him to succeed. i want him to lead. there is a sense that there is still at home, they want to give the president the benefit of the doubt. >> sandra: a way to please the bob fleischer's of the world, tax reform. he still has that and his toolbelt. it's not like bob fleischer is

walking away, he's holding onto the hope. >> harris: before we move on, you bring up an interesting point. why preach to the base because you're already there, why even go there? he already has all of this. >> dagen: i've always said i wouldn't psychoanalyze the president of the united states. it's his energy source, that is his energy source that he runs on. it's really talking to those people who adore him. >> mercedes: when you're in the white house, it's a bubble and it's very difficult to get out of that bubble and reconnect of the american people. >> sandra: and congress, got to pass legislation. >> harris: it he was tough on members of congress as well. president trump brought in his rally speech to hit on his members of congress and now we are learning how tough the

relationship is between the president and senate leader mitch mcconnell. what this means for the president's agenda on the 20 team and terms. and hillary clinton is not holding back on her criticism of the president. and a newly released excerpt of her book that's already making waves and raising eyebrows. after the show, you can join us live on the web, will pop up at foxnews.com/a number, click on the overtime tab. join the live chat. or watch us and outnumbered fnc on facebook live. of course, tweet us anytime you want. we are coming right back. still. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart.

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party's failed attempt to repeal obamacare. he also called out jeff flake. >> they all said, mr. president, your speech was so good last night, please, mr. president, don't mention any names. so i won't. one vote away, i will not mention any names. it's very presidential. nobody wants me to talk about your other senator, who is weak on border, weak on crime, so i won't talk about him. [boos] >> sandra: today, the president is naming names. tweeting "phoenix card last night was amazing, packed house. i loved the great state of arizona. not a fan of jeff flake, weak on crime and border." there goes that on the window. >> gianno: it's funny, i understand the attack on jeff

flake. he's been very critical of the president. often times, the book that just came out, but he's one of the least popular senators in the country. one of the things in the president's favor is he's voted 90% of the time in regards to the president's agenda, so he can appreciate that. this has become very difficult for the president. going forward when congress does come back in session, there are people who say because of the charlottesville situation that there is a dark cloud on his agenda moving forward. i've talked to people on the hill, whether they be chief of staff's or members who also agree with that. i think president trump needs to talk about unity, not just in the country, but within the republican party because there's things we actually need to get done. at this point, we don't have a real agenda to sell. hold on, i'm talking and terms of accomplishing it.

we want tax reform, infrastructure, obamacare, 100%. we have a real agenda to sell, but we'll have a record of getting it done just yet. >> mercedes: i disagree with you. moderate republicans are the ones who brought repeal down. these moderate republicans decided that they were going to campaign on repealing obamacare. those were the ads they put out and let me tell you, that was a political disgrace to vote against repealing obamacare. >> dagen: there actually democrats under a different name and they should call themselves with ar, shelley moore capito, susan collins, lisa murkowski. you name it come these people did not line up. address this is a strategy.

>> mercedes: they have to support the legislative agenda that they would go on. if they do not get on board, they will lose his midterm elections. they will suffer because of the fact that they hasn't had accomplishments. on tax reform, a bit more optimistic that they'll be able to pass at least partial. >> dagen: two weeks ago i said that it wasn't north korea or even the ensuing issues over charlottesville. you see the stock market weakness which started about two weeks ago when it first came to light that mitch mcconnell and donald trump were fighting with each other. it's when mcconnell made that excessive expectations, and, then use raising market weakness and you made the same face. >> sandra: had set a historic high. >> harris: it's because the agenda is at rest. >> dagen: he can't get it repealed and replaced.

you have to keep the government old men, pass the budget and move on. >> sandra: the stock market doesn't seem to be questioning whether that's going to get don done. it's still sitting at 22,000. >> dagen: it was really weak at the end of last week. >> gianno: >> gianno: president, especially anna comes to health care, we have the freedom caucus that prevented us from passing the bill. he said it was a mean bill. >> mercedes: have to make the bill better. he wants it to be better and that's why you had spike lee and ted cruz is saying not getting on board until this is any better position. the president pushed this bill into a better position, but the mere fact is republicans, when they are not room, they need to

come to the compromise. you had mike lee, ted cruz, even rand paul who was so critical of that senate bill support the skinny bill and then you have these other republicans who decided not voting. >> gianno: he blamed only john mccain. >> dagen: one quick thing, president trump and mitch mcconnell need to work together because if nancy pelosi and those democrats take over the house, it's going to be an impeachment hearing. >> sandra: president trump saying he'll do whatever it takes to get funding for that border wall including shutting down the government. a good tactic to help deliver on one of his biggest campaign promises or could it backfire? plus espn facing backlash for pulling a broadcaster because he happens to have the same name as confederate general robert e le lee. is this something else?

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♪ >> harris: we saw the president open up on just how far he's willing to go to fulfill one of his biggest campaign promises, building a wall along our nation's southern border with mexico. this from his rally in phoenix. >> we are building a wall on the southern border which is absolutely necessary. [cheers and applause] the obstructionist democrats would like us not to do it, but believe me, we have to close down our government, we are building that wall. let me be very clear. two democrats in congress who oppose a border wall and stand in the way of border security, you are putting all of america's safety at risk. >> harris: the top democrat on the house appropriations committee's respondent calling the president's threat the polar opposite of leadership.

she says "wasting tens of billions on a useless and immoral border wall is a nonstarter for democrats, particularly at a time of such real need in our communities. at the president follows through on his threat to shut on the government, he and his enablers should be held fully accountable." the president went to yuma city yesterday which is a border city that is considered to be a success story. george w. bush went down there with the funds appropriated to build a fence line and now it's a success story. not an accident the president would start there. >> gianno: i appreciate what he said, i agree with what he said, and i don't understand what the democrats are talking about because hillary, bill, and president obama advocated for a border. i don't understand what the difference is now. i know as a negotiator, he starts out with the most extreme point as leverage to say if you

don't do what i'm asking you, then this is what it's going to be. i appreciate that. i think it's consistent with his campaign message and it's part of the reason with which he won. that's appropriate and my view. >> harris: is this a deal breaker? >> mercedes: it's an incredibly critical part of the president's agenda is to build a wall. from a national security perspective as well as the fact that this is something dealing with the rule of law. this is the fact that the because the president has been so right and so outspoken on illegal immigration, what have we seen question rick we've seen deportations decreased tremendously and we have to get a hold of that illegal immigration's problem in americ america. they're using words like immoral to build the wall, what they're promoting is illegal immigration. they are promoting the law.

>> harris: the president has talked about that wall would be a structure and so what we see along the southern border, it is a fence line more than a wall, but it is a structure fortified by border agents. >> dagen: this goes back to our previous discussion about senate republicans and is get on board with this. the houses passed legislation for $1.6 billion, but it's not clear that that negotiations, how that language will survive. again, it falls on the ability to work in the senate and with members of his party to get this done. would they show the government down over this issue, it's very personal to this president and to his supporters, but with a government shutdown over this? no way. >> sandra: does the president need to get more specific with his plan for building this wall?

he has said and has to be real money. he needs whatever means necessary to get money for this wall. he won't give specific amounts of money that he needs, but he needs "enough to really start building it. how about layout some specifics? >> gianno: that would be great, but how often do we hear those specifics? he's more of an overall idea. at this point, he's saying let's get started. now it's time to get mitch mcconnell and speaker ryan, everybody to the table and say this is how much is going to cost, otherwise we are shutting down the government. >> harris: mexico is no longer part of the conversation. >> dagen: you can extract the

money from other places. you are for obamacare and cut that $1 trillion in spending. this money needed for the wall, it's a small amount of money given the problems from the president. >> sandra: some of the president's top aides are forcing him to protect dreamers, that according to mcclatchy bc. the proposed deal with and allow young people brought illegally into the country to stay if lawmakers agree to provide border wall funding and add more detention centers, could illegal immigration and enforce e-verify. nancy pelosi tweeting it is reprehensible to treat children

as bargaining trip to chips. let's talk strategy here. >> gianno: i think it's appropriate to use daca as a bargaining chip. in order to make a deal happen on immigration, this is a sensitive issue, but we need immigration reform. there is no way to get around that. at this particular time, where we have an opportunity if you want to keep some of the young children in the country, then democrats will have to give. we absolutely need it than ever. >> mercedes: i think daca should be on the table.

they also have to figure out at some point, what are they going to do with the 11 million illegal immigrants western mark this is what we seen decade after decade. for the president, he's saying let's move on to border security first, let that be the issue. there is a sense in his heart that he wants to be open to the daca situation, but it came from an executive order. you need to be dealt with through legislation, not -- >> dagen: this program has been shut down. the one for parents. deferred action for childhood rivals, illegal immigrants in this country have continued to game amnesty under this obama program since president trump took office. there are about 900,000 people

total who have been enrolled since march 31st, 10,000 were added just in the first three months of this year. this program has not been shut down, not by president trump at this point. it is important for bargaining. >> sandra: for nancy pelosi to say that children are being used as bargaining chips. >> gianno: announcing this what's being done here, but democrats use everybody as bargaining chips. i don't see the point of making that point at all. it's honest. >> dagen: it turned into a killing our children and elderl elderly. >> harris: i'm watching this. these are the things that we need to be focused on. these are the conversations that need to happen. that's why asked the question of

the top commended the president make a mistake by stepping on his message because we spent so much time talking about his words last night and americans are dealing with these issues. certainly in the state of arizona. >> mercedes: always put it into perspective. >> gianno: very serious times in which we live in. >> sandra: what's in a name question rick apparently a lot. if your name is similar to that of a confederate general who has been in the news lately. the firestorm after an announcer is inked from a game. ♪ i've been a soldier for 3 years.

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♪ >> harris: this story lit it up on twitter last night. a lot of people shaking their heads going what? espn pulled one of its announcers from calling a university a university of virginia football game next month and reassigned him to another game. why? his name is robert lee, very similar to the confederate general robert e lee who is a statue helped spark the recent violence in charlottesville. espn issued a statement last night. "we collectively made the decision with robert to switch games as the tragic events of charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. in that moment, it felt right to all parties." this is not about political correctness, rather it was more about wanting to avoid possibly embarrassing that announcer. a much different take on the

fox sports radio host who forced broke the story. >> it's a sign of how ridiculous and absurd this idea has become that they made the decision that it was the right move to do this, as opposed to just allowing people to think he's probably not a robert e lee ancestor given the fact that he's an asian guy and also, it's been 150 some odd years since robert e lee died. it's probably time we can get over it for a football game. >> dagen: here's my strategy. every time i go and starbucks in order my cappuccino, i'm giving them the name stonewall jackson, just so they yell it out. i need to lay down, this makes my head hurt so much. by the way, espn and their

politicizing this hurts its ratings. >> sandra: what got to me is the word "collectively." we collectively came to this decision. this wasn't just one bad decision by one person at espn who said let's put them on a different game, they sat down, had a big conversation about this and collectively came to the decision. >> mercedes: and apparently they asked robert lee, not the general, asian american, i just want to make sure to say, is it okay? he agreed. of course, if you're the reporter, you'll say sure. >> harris: i am glad you recorded the word "asked." >> mercedes: dagan on fox business this morning said

this is just stupid. >> gianno: there is no argument they can provide to say this is okay. i'm checking democrats arguing racism yet. >> harris: this story was fiery hot last night. >> dagen: i thought it was made up. >> sandra: headline -- the story was so popular that site servers were overloaded on tuesday night when this hit. >> harris: note the timing of when they made this decision, as things were unfolding, the hatred and charlottesville, as they were unfolding, they made this decision, we're two weeks out on it now. what they were forecasting was going to be the issue, what were

they thinking about our nation that without the e in the middle of his name was going to be hidden? >> mercedes: let's say we're watching the game and robert lee, the reporter is there on television, do you think would cross your mind, robert lee equals robert e lee, they made this assumption. it's insane. >> sandra: let me play the role of devil's advocate. imagine a conference room filled with all these executives who said he might become a punch line. they want to guard against the reporters becoming a punch line

>> dagen: balderdash and poppycock. >> harris: a lot of people in this country who look like you and me have former slave discerning. i'm from the deep south and family name has been passed on, it wasn't necessarily the name that your family came with. every time someone comes on tv and it coincides with someone who might be part of our history, is espn going to scrub his people? >> gianno: it's disrespectful at this point. >> dagen: you raise an incredibly important issue. it is something that president trump is touching on is that people on the liberal, lunatic left will never be satisfied with anything until we have completely washed away vast parts of our history and if we do that, then we will never have it around to learn from again. there is no satisfying a lot of these liberal lunatics.

you will never be able to satisfy them. you'll have to stick with what you say and own it and move on. that's some of the pushback. >> harris: former secretary of state hillary clinton not mincing words saying donald trump made her skin crawl at one of the debates. it's our first glimpse of her upcoming tell-all book, what happened? it's about the 2016 election. it's her criticism worth the ink or just more sour grapes question him or keep. ♪ when you have something you love,

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>> sandra: more "outnumbered" in just a moment, but first jon scott with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> jon: we are awaiting a speed from president trump this afternoon as we analyze the president's off script campaign last night in phoenix. today we are hearing from hillary clinton as we get excerpts from her new book, "what happened." she explains what she thought went wrong in the white house race. post a verdict against one of america's biggest companies for more than 400 million bucks.

we'll dive into it. "happening now." >> sandra: will be watching, thank you. >> dagen: thinking of those excerpts, hillary clinton not holding back about her loss to donald trump. in her new book, due out next month titled "what happened" ," and brief excerpts of the audiobook, hillary clinton calls president trump creep and accuses him of invading her personal space. here's clinton in her own words. >> we were on a small stage and no matter where i walked, he followed me closely, staring at me, making faces. it was incredibly uncomfortable. he was literally breathing down my neck. my skin crawled. it was one of those moments where you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching "well, what would you do?"

you stay calm, heap smiling, and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly and phasing invadinr space or do you turn, look him in the eye and say back up you creep come and get away from me? >> dagen: clinton goes on to say she chose option a, but still wonders if she should have confronted him. mercedes, you know what this doesn't speak to a question mark she needs to come up with something to sell the book. the campaign was covered, she's got to find a way to sell it. if she had showed a few real human reactions and interactions during the campaign, it would have helped her, but again, everything is a political calculation as was this reaction to donald trump walking around the stage. >> mercedes: i had an interesting experience during

the iowa caucus. guess who walks and, hillary clinton, huma abedin, chelsea clinton, they walk in and do not talk to anyone there until the cameras went on. i thought to myself, when you're a natural politician, you walk into a room and you go and you talk to everybody. you even introduce yourself. it was very clear that that's one thing she is always lacked is that personal human touch and the fact that she was always so calculated and she was always so careful and how she would talk which is so different from president donald trump who is so transparent and you know he's thinking. >> harris: she walked into chipotle and nobody recognized her apparently. >> gianno: hillary clinton was the correlative bill of the selection process. that's all you can think of.

she's making a fallacious argument. you lost an election, move on. >> dagen: play devil's advocate, sandra. >> sandra: i don't know. if i'm looking at a competition and i'm hearing the competitor who lost without explanation, i'm thinking wow, did you get under her skin. >> harris: that was the entitlement picture that popped into my head as you were telling your story because of course wait for the cameras, you don't feel like you need to work the room because you're going to wi win. >> dagen: based on the

trouncing that she suffered during the election, that's not the voice that you would hear from me if i got slammed away during the election. i would have the hillary -- this is the voice of somebody who is medicated. i'm not saying she is, i'm not asserting that she is, but certainly, it's very careful and i don't know if this is how the whole audiobook will sound. >> sandra: she goes on to say, if the russians could hack my subconscious. >> gianno: she lost because she called americans a basket of deplorable's. she assumed that she had the right vision for americans. >> dagen: she also said i kept my cool aided by a lifetime of men trying to throw me off.

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