see the sworn enemy of smugness and "the five" is next. have a great evening. >> hello, everybody i'm jesse watters with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams and this is "the five." we begin tonight with a disturbing and dangerous questioning of his ability and he still won a clear victory in the electoral college over hillary clinton but it hasn't stopped the opposition from hurling am -- accusations beyond common discoarse course

-- discourse. >> his personality and erratic behavior should be of concern to anyone who has dedicate the themselves to the preservation of our democracy and our national security. >> in discussions among friends and family and debates on social media people are questioning the president's fitness. >> i really question his ability to -- his fitness to be in this office. >> i think there's an issue with the president's capability. >> there's actually a growing mountain of evidence that the president has been very erratic, has shown a mental instability. >> greg, so if trump is crazy what's that make hilary? she lost to a crazy person. >> it's interesting. everybody there mentions the generic terms, growing mountain of evidence. his behavior but they don't

mention actual specific facts because there aren't any. i understand this, trump is a hefty lift for people. he was a heavy lift for me during the elections -- the nomination -- the campaign. he's rude, he's brass, he's silly, he's childish but he's also very funny. if you obsessively pay attention to everything he says and believe he's completely serious the whole time he is going to drive you crazy. what you're seeing is a collective drug trip the media is sharing. they do believe they see a horrifying monster. they think they're seeing a monster because they're all high on this emotional belief without the evidence. what i don't understand is that a lot of these reporters and a lot of the commentators have been around. they're as old as i am so they've seen hysteria before and seen y2k and remember heavy metal and red meat and reefer. all these scares.

nothing is ever as bad as they think it is. in fact, it never is. even people who thought obama was evil have to admit he wasn't. so what we're going through is another collective scare. i don't see how the media doesn't realize they're in this weird hysterical bubble. he's not what you think he is. he's not. >> dana, why don't you think the democrats try the traditional way of beating him at the ballot box. they don't go after his policy just after him personally. >> it's the cheaper shot. >> it's easier. >> it's interesting. i guess maybe all of us are guilty since freud of trying to psychoanalyze people because we took psychology 101. i remember for president bush the media use to always want to write stories how he must have difficulties and have an

inferiority complex and he wouldn't do interviews because he said they want to play armchair psychiatrist to get in my psyche. he said life begins at conception and these are just beliefs i have. i believe they've crossed the line with this. questioning somebody's mental health seems to be really beyond the pale and unnecessary. >> and hilary on her health and mental health. we all kind of do it, don't we? i apologize. i'm sorry, kimberly. >> voters wanted somebody brash. they wanted someone new. they wanted someone to come in and flip the table. that's what they got. it just seems like a lot of

people have a hard time accepting the will of the people. >> i think these are the statement people who in fact didn't favor a trump presidency. i think the people who support the president the true hardcore followers out there, they like what they see. they like it. it's red meat when he's at these rallies and out there and doing his thing and blaming the media and fake news and saying he's getting a raw deal. they love it. they can't get enough. the people upset are the people who didn't put him in office that had reservations so this plays into their preconceived notion. it was before he walked in the white house. in terms of the mainstream media they were saying things about him before he took the office while he was running saying he's unfit, this isn't appropriate. >> he'd drop out. >> that he never wanted it.

>> by the way, he's having a good time. he's being himself and saying what he think and putting it out there like no one can control him and he think it's fine. when he tweets he think are they talking about north korea and health care, no. it's throwing them off kilter. >> hold on a second, now. i see a warning about the hurricane in texas i think the hurricane swept through here because i've seen quotes from republicans who say, you know what, i don't think he's demonstrated ability. bob corker of tennessee was a trump supporter, kimberly. when people talk about trump, greg, they say very specific things. they say narcissism, grandiose and impulsive and at times reckless. >> that's a description of a

personality. give me a deed. >> would you say it's grandiose to say my inauguration crowd was bigger than any other crowd despite pictures that demonstrate -- that's what he obsesses about is i'm going to prove myself right no matter what the facts may show. >> no, that's part of a brash personality that do that. it's funny. it triggers you and makes me laugh. >> i don't think it's funny to people like jim clapper who said it's shocking. you have to question the fitness for office. he's not the national comedian. >> there's a need to be right about everything to prove himself right. >> so do i. am i insane? >> wen politicians call other politicians narcissist i think there's irony. >> no, no, no.

i think a lot of politicians are psycho. >> so are tv people. >> absolutely. >> seriously. >> this is grandiosity. you say it's just people who don't like him, well guess what, 50% in a poll said trump is not stable. >> stable, conventional politicians have gotten us trillions into debt and open borders and that's why donald trump was elected. and let's look at what david axelrod had this to say. >> if people think there's an extraordinary measure to be taken -- remember a third of the country supports this president. that's a very dangerous road to go down and if you ever did go down that road you're opening a pandora's box that will never end. >> do you think he has a point?

>> absolutely. that's a true public servant. somebody who's been on the inside and knows. look, president obama took a lot of flack from a lot of people about his citizenship, the fact he was aloof, he was an only child and therefore he must have these harborings of being lonely and i just think that -- let's not take axelrod. let me take corker because of what juan was saying. i actually think sometimes when people say things like that about stability that it's not about mental health, necessarily, it's about focussing on an issue to get it done. i think the democrats would worry. imagine if the mantra on tuesday night's rally in phoenix was tax reform, here's my three principles, the three things i want to get done and i want every one of you to be on facebook and twitter and focus. i think that's the criticism from the right when they suggest

it's not stable. >> that's absolutely right -- >> but that's not about mental illness. >> he goes on to say he hasn't demonstrated the ability to have a comprehensive strategy. he also said the business about not demonstrating stability. you realize what's going on today in washington is trump comes out. he has a twitter storm in the morning and he's going after the senate majority leader. he's back on everybody about repeal and replace. and i'm talking about republicans, they're like why is he attacking us? >> because he's shaking things up. he's doing what he said he'd do. >> do you want him to repeal and replace obama care. >> why do the democrats want to remove trump to quickly if he's so ineffective?

>> you want someone. everybody wants to pay less taxes but you put somebody there who's not screaming fire and fury -- >> wait, wait, wait. that actually worked. if you think that's an example of insane behavior, it worked. good things have happen in the last six months. we go through the list all the time. lower regulations, the paris accord gone and lower unemployment and higher stock market. there's a couple things i've left off. here's the thing, this is a hysterical event that was a reaction to an election. when something makes you nervous the uncertainty leads to fear. there are a lot of people operate from that uncertainty. i would say everybody in the segment including juan, the uncertainty makes them fearful then the rest of us are going,

you guys, it's not bad. you're erupting over his words and mannerisms but everything over here's all okay. sure, he's not exactly the most artful speaker and he could have done better here and there but those again are words. he's not going sooth your soul, juan. he's not going to do it no matter how bad you want it. >> they're desperate to get him out of office and they'll lie and cheat and call him mentally ill which is disgusting because there's no legal evidence. so these people can sit in their stew the rest of his term because he's not going anywhere and not getting pulled out of office because people have psychosis over fire and furry that worked. >> i'd like to sit in my stew. it sounds like fun. you just sit in it and eat the beef around you. you not only are warm but enjoy the nutrients.

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♪ >> dana: >> the tragic events in charlottesville prompted a discussion about racism in america and some have gone too far with their demand for political correctness. some students at the university of california are taking issue with the horse mascot because its name is traveler. that's the same name as confederate general's robert e. lee's personal horse. one msnbc reporter is asking for caution. >> the first six presidents had slaves. you'd have to go after washington and the southern guys and monroe and the rest and people who did indian fighting and killing. where do we stop by saying we'll

recognize our history, accept it for what it was and move on. >> jesse, here's your chance. the only one in your life to agree with chris mathews. take it. >> i thought the usc mascot was a trojan. >> but his name is traveler. >> what's more offensive a condom or -- >> whatever you do don't put them together. >> i'm going to throw up. >> you have to change the name of the denver broncos football team because it's the car that o.j. drove when he got away from the crime scene. i mean, i think when you're on campus and complaining about mascots, i think life is good. you've gone as far as you can go. there's no racism in football. all the black student-athletes are dominating and they're all going to play in the nfl, the good ones, and making $1 million. >> see how you started, juan, with being against the

washington redskins. >> blame the black guy. >> he's from panama. >> what strikes me is this is ridiculous with the horse. someone pointed out to me the horse's name isn't even spelled the same way. >> it's named after a different horse i thought? anyway -- >> it's a "new york times" cross word puzzle thing. >> it doesn't have to do with history but there's concern on the part of the students have you lots of elements in our society that represent racist tropes. don't get to the point that you can't say the basic thing which is you don't need statues, which are celebrating heros to the living, to somehow remind us of the horrors of the past. other countries don't do it and that's a real and important argument and trivialized when people go after horses. >> you lived in england and when

you walk around there's statues and not all are innocent people. there's one of cromwell on the grounds of parliament. >> that's just a bum sleeping. there were a lot of people laying there. >> you were looking that's bums. >> i'm not a fan of the slippery slope argument where you say if a occurs then there's x but people are now talking about jefferson and washington and columbus and columbus circle. i think for a lot of people this is becoming an exercise in relieving boredom and empty in their lives. if you can get a plaque of christoph christoph christopher colombus it doesn't do anything for your family or life or career but it fills up a hole in yourself. it's something -- i think when i was in high school i was interested in causes and do

stupid things as well and worked for the nuclear freeze to get extra credit. there's no investment in it. if you hate it, mail me your $20 bills because andrew jackson's on it and he owned slaves. if you really believe this, send me your $20 bills. >> do you think young people -- if they're watching this, we hope they are, that we sound old and don't get it? >> yeah, not you and me. >> that's why we're solid. >> i remember studying. i don't remember doing this stuff. >> all you do was study. >> that's all i remember. i never went to a protest. i never thought about -- actually, our mascot -- >> what a surprise. >> there was a big controversy over the thunder wolves. i was super studious.

sadly we had one of the highest suicide rates in the country and everyone was fighting for as and a-pluses. back in the day it was lovely with the quad and the horses. >> the sat scores are higher than of. there's smarter kids and it's tough to get into these schools. >> they take the top 3% and look at this, product of uc davis. what i want to talk about tonight is dolly parton. what is going on there? they want the diner to shut down about the civil rights because it doesn't mention anything about slavery. they want to shut down that too. when do you stop this? >> i draw the line at diners. >> it's a dinner theatre and they re-enact the civil war. there's the north and south. people sit on the north side and

people who sit on the south side and the bathrooms say for northerners only and southerns only. >> but they're not talking about slavery so is it doing a disservice and they're saying it should be shut down and lilly white and it's an extravaganza that play act the civil war. >> you're right, when does it end? the u.s. issued a warning against the united states, believe that? we'll tell you what it's all about when "the five" returns.

>> the u.n. is at it again. it has issued a quote, early warning to the united states over the white nationalists in

charlottesville saying they did not condemn the racist events and demonstrations, unquote. among the other countries that have received similar warning, iraq, ivory coast, kyrgyzstan and virginia. imagine that. they're putting the united nations. >> you have this rotating group so saudi arabia will be on the human rights council and then syria and preposterous but they love to beat up on the united states at the u.n. you can imagine nikki haley has to bite her tongue a lot. >> is this politically motivated? >> the u.n. ignores the bad guys and heckles the good because

they're immerged in this davis versus goliath myth. if you're big, you're bad and if you're small you're good. pakistan is then the crodown - council and there's others who are state-sponsored discriminators. there's algerian and see how they treat african migrants. and the human rights watch said some governments are undeclared apartheid. we have bad, bad people telling us we have a problem. shut the hell up, go away. stop double parking on the east side. >> pay your ticket. >> they're all watching the u.s. they just want to leech off of us and want the billions and thumb their nose and call us

names. where is any of their condemnation of islamic terrorism and jihad and women and young girls being mutilated and genocide occurring? how about that? >> i don't hear anything about like that. the u.s. attacking america is like a teenager attacking their parents, be careful or i'll cut your allowance. saudi arabia, women can't drive, swim or play sports or wear make up and rwanda their claim to fame is genocide. >> they're worked hard to improve. >> and in the congo the militia stabs pregnant women in the belly. they ban nuclear weapons and poverty and global warming. come on. >> again, i just wonder when i sit here some days i just go wow.

>> all these amazing facts you just heard. >> you're overdosing on facts, juan. let me resuscitate you. >> it's like saying my neighbors are a bunch of jerks and idiots and nobody has the capacity to look at themselves and say hey, wait a second, southern poverty law center -- >> hate group. >> amnesty international -- >> wait, there was a hate figure and he turned out to be one of the bravest people on the planet. >> you say these other people have problems in their house. how dare they come over here and by the way, the united states is the best place on the earth to be black. that's my point of view. that the not to say we don't have racism and bigotry and charlottesville didn't happen and the president could not see the idea that people battling white supremacists and neo-nazis

are not the same. >> the u.n. has no moral ingrit to criticize america. >> you don't want to deal with what's going on. >> we're dealing with it as a topic on the show. >> you're dealing with it by putting down anybody who questions -- >> we're pointing out hypocrisy which is well done by all of us, i must say. except for juan, he gets a b-minus. >> if you ask the ambassadors who participated in writing that statement what would you rather do? stay here and live in new york city on your allowance or go home? you tell us. >> dan perino. drop the mic, perino, baby. >> greg, try to look attractive. you're next -- no, you're on camera. you'll want to stay tuned about killer robots. copd makes it hard to breathe.

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technology like terrorist. they would love a ban because it preserves their low-tech suicide attacks and ieds but their bots can take them out without risk to our men and women. why would we ban that? even if we had a ban would rogue nations obey it. we once outlawed chemical weapons. a pope once tried to ban a cross bow and the league of nations tried to ban war in 1928. those who make the first stuff, dictate the rules not a governing body who hates us anyway. america innovates. that's what we do. being more efficiently deadly is not a bad thing. hardly, the more efficient a weapon is the more you can end conflict faster by targeting the higher ups. my suggestion, don't listen to musk on this one. he's a smart guy but for a

futurist he's living in the past as if islamic terror nerve happened. when it comes to killer robots, let's get there first and then we'll talk. k.g., you're a fan of robots is there a point they can hack into it and it will be the death of us all. >> i think you can't avoid this technology and other countries do it though the united states is ahead of the a.i. and there's machine guns attached to go in and in the military they have robots to go in and detonate bombs and things like that.

there's a tremendous use that can be made against terrorists as well to limit human casualties. for that i'm for the technology. >> the wars will get smaller and more precise. musk worries we'll have more war because it will be easier to wage. >> that's exactly the point. if there's less cost and people argue we don't have a draft. if it's not your kids going to fight and if nobody goes we decide to attack them with our artificial robots or whatever all of a sudden, more people are getting killed or less. >> i think what he is pointing out and i think this is why you have a lot of people in the business in high tech saying hold on, there are, legal moral

questions. you have the potential for things like bad actors. i'm sensitive to what you were saying i was reading this week a story about how bad guys were shooting at americans or allies and we were able to target that specific apartment building and get the snipers. just terrific, right? what if the bad guys get this? >> you can use that argument on everything. they might get it. let's get it first. >> i think we should have a different course on immigration. i think we should have more immigration for h1v visas and attract all the smartest and utilize their smarts because china wants to hire all of them. it'd be better if they're here. the debates are happening.

there was a headline about designer babies and gene editing where we're like that's not a good idea. it's actually already happening in other places. it doesn't mean it's right to do it but if america wants to win we need more of it here and own it. >> jesse, thoughts. >> i was a designer baby. [laughter] >> can you tell? i think it's funny how the only r robots americans want to create are killer robots or sex robots. elon musk wants to be the last person the robots want to kill. there's an off switch for the pentagon. give them the remote control. it's the only button that works anyway. >> they can override the a.i.

>> you didn't watch "24" did you? >> i missed that one. >> is football about to become a dying sport in america? that's a leading question. not as many kids are playing it anymore. that's next on "the five." david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is

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♪ >> to the delight of football fans everywhere, football season is days away but a surprising stat shows the popularity may be in decline. according to the sports and fitness industry association, youth participation football dropped nearly 30% from 2008 to 2013. but don't tell that to anyone in katy, texas. it recently spent, get this, $72 million for a high school stadium and it debuts next week. jesse, you want to go to texas and play some football? >> i wish i could. my playing days are long over and i had a concussion and look how i turned out. [laughter] >> why are you laughing? >> you recovered. >> some may argue that. i think the generation is soft and i don't want to tell people how to parent. you need large teams to field

because you have 11 players on offense, 11 players on defense. you have to scrimmage, people get hurt. if you can't build a team big enough you have to disband. that's sad for players who want to play and can't play because parents are too soft to let them play. >> what about the problem with head injuries? >> i talked to a father today who said his son plays soccer and he got two concussions fighting for a head ball. you can get concussions. there's a lot of dangerous things. >> i was marvelling at that. i'm literally concussed from that. personal responsibility, individual choice. that's a decision a child and parent have to make. i love football, right, but i have a serious concern about the

extent and natural of the injuries and how debilitating it can be and people have been able to change lives and generations of family members by being able to play a sport they're exceptionally gifted and talented and blessed to play. everybody enjoys the nfl season so if they can make it safer and develop better technology in terms of the helmets i encourage them to do so so kids who want to play are able to do so. i see number 42 on the jersey. one of the greatest football players of all time, ronnie lott, amazing free safety. >> so when you hear him saying i had a concussion and i'm fine. i think when they looked at the brains of nfl players there were signs of debill de

debilitation. >> on the $72 million for the high school stadium it sounds like a lot but this is katy, texas and it's part of their culture and there's friday night lights and the school board made that decision and i don't grudge them for that at all. >> that's a lot of money for a school district. it's outside of houston but it's relatively small. >> is this discussion worth our discussion. >> everything's on the decline. video games are eclipsing outside activities and people are driving less. we're just replacing activity

with simulation of activity. not just video games but look at the rise of pornography. when i was a kid it was hard to find a playboy. you had to hide behind a tree in the park and all the kids knew where it was. now have you a faucet of flesh in your house. kids are getting this stuff just cater to them. i think that's reducing the desire for people to go out and meet other people, talk to other people. engage in a relationship with somebody. video games and pornography have made you less likely to engage with other people, period. >> one last question because we have to go, why would it be in some parts of the country, football's in decline but in texas it's grown. >> in texas everything grows. >> one more thing coming at you like a pass.

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tree. look how slow he's going. the conservation center had joint birth days for the pandas. people like them. i don't like them. i think they're lazy. they're so lazy they don't even try to save their own kind. they don't reproduce. >> evolution is saying see you later. >> they're adorable so they just exist on their adorability. >> pandas don't reproduce. >> you have to convince them. you have to get people dressed up as pandas to get them excited. by the way, that goes for me as well. if you have a panda outfit, call me. >> okay. we can't go to dana quickly enough. >> so i don't have a kimberly food court thing but i got permission to serve chicken wings. they're more popular than ever in the united states and get this, the costs are going up so much, for example, buffalo wild wings, the chain, they tripled

the amount of locations in the last decade. they now cost $2.09 a pound from $1.50 a pournd. >> thanks, obama. >> a way to eat more wings. >> these are delicious. >> there has to be a reason for this? what press release did you get? the national wings board sent a press release? big wings are behind this. >> juan. >> emily's a kid from philly so she likes chicken wings. all right, a massachusetts woman today won $758 million playing powerball. she took a lump sum payment, $4 $480 million. the 53-year-old immediately quit her job. >> i work currently at the medical center and i was there 32 years and in the patient

care. >> reporter: are you still there? >> i called them and told them i will not be coming back. [laughter] >> that's sad for the patients. >> i thought so too. i bet she was good and did a great job. >> today in front of me a guy bought a powerball ticket today in the afternoon. i don't get it. >> a time traveler. >> and she bought the ticket wednesday, so she bought it before the deadline and used the birthday of family members to pick the winning numbers. >> boy, that doesn't work. >> for someone who would never quit "the five" if she won the powerball -- >> i think that's true. i thought about it today. i think i won, wouldn't quit. i may for other reasons. i have a nice story. 5-year-old ari pramki was born

without arms and she always wanted to ride a bike and thanks to the good people at the children's specialty hospital in st. paul minnesota she got the chance. they built her a special device that attaches to her back and she's able to steer with her shoulders and she said it feels like flying. isn't that the cutest. so god bless her and the amazing team there. >> that's a smart idea. >> i bet her parents are so delighted they'd give anything to see this moment in action. >> i grew in philadelphia so i'm a big eagles fans, unfortunately, this is our year though. jeffery regal died last friday and in his obituary he asked to have eight philadelphia eagles as bearers to let him down one

last time. >> never miss an episode of "the five." "hannity" up next. >> welcome do "hannity." this is a fox news alert, the destroy trump media are continuing their meltdown over president trump and now pushing a new conspiracy theory. they want you to think he's crazy. media, pot, kettle? since the bias press wants to pretend to be psychology experts we'll beat them at their own game, we'll diagnose these lefty leftist ideologues suffering from the trump syndrome and we'll continue to do the job the media should be doing and that's telling you the truth about the trump presidency. you'll get this nowhere else on