where we are. we are making sure when people call they are able to reach us and once they reach us we need to respond to them. joe. >> eric: thank you, mayor. i'm with the houston emergency center and as of this 9:00 this morning we received approximately 75,000 calls that we did process as well. and we've gotten our q numbers those are the calls that are pending. that is a huge difference from yesterday, probably about 250 down to about ten, 15 on cue today. we are receiving tremendous amount of calls as an extreme emergency for everyone. we are encouraged and citizens to call, when they do call 911 to stay on the line. do not hang out, because that just expands our trump system. which overloads, and puts out a hold on numbers of people that we cannot get to. stay on the line. we have all seen into last

night, with the voice activated system that notifies people that if they do call 911 that their call is being processed. that is significant, because with the system we were experience earlier, the constant rain in thinking that the system was down. it is the long awaited calls, so stay on the line. we are encouraging citizens that if they ever receive any calls from relatives that they have contacted 911 previously, do not follow up with that. do not test 911, we are experiencing an abundance of calls. we do have a good grasp on that, we are encouraging people that if they need 911, dial the line, you will process the call. >> what about the status report? >> extreme emergencies, life-threatening situations. the status report is not life-threatening, so we

discourage those types of calls, and we really want to keep the lines open for life-threatening situations. do not follow up with it. we are receiving all types of messages from all around the region. we are processing them. we are putting them on the line, this is an extreme emergency. we understand where everyone is coming from, but we hope that the citizens understand that we are processing the calls, and hopefully help will be on their way. we want to go ahead and get the right information from the callers, to provide the right resources. but right now we are doing a tremendous job with the first responders. we are processing those calls when we were just asking for patients. we do a huge amount on a regular basis, about 9000 calls, we are about 75,000 calls by this morning. process and then serve. >> a big emphasis on 911, we want to assure people that we will respond to them. do not hang up, if you hang up, you go back to the bottom.

do not hang up. we will get to you. the calls are coming in from 911, whatever staffing we need to do to make sure that we are operating at full capacity, we want to do that. once they are in, they are in the queue, and then they will be forwarded to the fire department, police department, whatever the department is to deal with them, and then we will work through that. and again, on the rescue portion, the emphasis again, rescue people, especially seniors, those with disabilities, those in life-threatening situations. okay? that is the focus. and the goal is to get to them before the day is out. i want to also talk about -- let me talk about the barker situation, because i have started to release water from

the addicts, and they are releasing as of an hour ago, about 26,000 cubic feet per second from addicts, and 2500 from barker, about 5000 cubic feet. that was about an hour, they are going to gradually increase that to about 8000 cubic feet, which would go up till about 12:00, and the reason is, the amount of water that is behind barker and addicts, if they do not release it, then it will go around. specifically it will go around and it will create even a major problem, when that water is released, it is going to come downstream, it is going to add water to the buffalo bayou, but for right now, the flood level is to study for right now. but as they increase the water and it comes down, the water

level alone buffalo bayou and all probability will increase, when i asked this morning from harris county, quantifying what that means, how much water will that increase in buffalo bayou? they were still doing the modeling, they could not specify at that time. but the water is, so water in the buffalo bayou, not going to be going down, it is steady even with the release, but the more that they released, it could go up. and it could create even additional problem, additional flooding. i'm asking them to quantified to give me some additional information on that. we are scheduled to talk again somewhere around noon or little bit after noon, so i do want to highlight that situation, they are releasing water, but it is a gradual release, and if they don't do it, they say they hold back the water and it builds up, and then it will be forced, it

will go around and the situation would be exponentially worse. this is a gradual release, and do you want to speak to it more? steve costello. >> thank you, mayor, we were advised yesterday by the core that they were going to start deists charging out of barker before the flood, what happens is that the gates are closed so that they can contain the water that is coming from upstream, so that downstream flooding can continue, so the issue here has to be the fact that they are getting a lot of water in the watershed upstream of the dams, and today are concerned about the water level rising quickly, so what they are doing now is a controlled release rate, and at the same time while they are releasing the water out of the reservoir, they are real time monitoring the water in buffalo bayou. they are going to try to maintain what is happening there, so you will not see a

decrease in buffalo bayou, you will see the current level as it is today. if we get more rain downstream or if they get more water upstream, then that will probably change, but we are not anticipating any increase in flooding downstream buffalo bayou. there was a comment that some of the residents don't know where they live next to wild bayou, but if you live between i ten and west herman, that is buffalo bayou. those will be the neighborhood's challenge in the next couple of days. thank you, mayor. >> let me just say to you that this is a dynamic situation, and things could change, they could change by the hour, they could change literally by the day, this very dynamic, but as we get information, but i will tell you is that we will provide that information to you. i've asked them to quantify it. they do their modeling, and if at 12:00 there is a need to increase more, i want them to tell me that they are going to

increase more. if they increase more, i want them to tell me if they are going to raise the level and buffalo bayou and get something whether or not there will be more flooding, homes in the area. so this is what we know at this time, but this is a very dynamic situation. things literally change day by day. then i want to talk about the northeast water plant. because as of 6:00 p.m. on yesterday you have triple tories that are flowing into lake houston. and as you know, the water continues to rise, more is flowing into lake houston, more than can exit out of lake houston into the gulf. and as of 6:00 p.m. on yesterday, the northeast water plant was completely submerged. and what that means is that we are trying to pump it out, we are working on pumping it out. and i will have a better sense over the next couple of hours. i know that public works is working on it. working with others to try to

pump it out so that it does not cause the northeast water plant to go down. but as of 6:00 p.m. on yesterday, because of water flowing into lake houston, then we can get out the northeast water plants was submerged. and we are working to get that out. if we can get it out, or not get the pumps in, it will have an impact on our system. but i can speak to that a lot better in the next couple of hours. is there anything else? >> i think you have covered it all. that is a good example of how dynamic the situation is. >> because the water is continuing to rise, we will impact the route of the entire region, not just the city of houston, but the entire region. no problems with respect to the other plants, the southeast plant is still working at about 25% production, but the northeast plant yesterday was fine, but as of 6:00 p.m. it was submerged. we are working to see if we can

get it out so it does not have to shut down. i will know -- we will not know that until a couple of hours, then i will let you know what the impact can be. with respect to a number of people in our shelters, as of now -- as of the time before i came out, that number was about 5500 in all of the shelters. all of our shelters. and i suspect that that number is going to rise. so we have been talking with the red cross, our partners, where's my red cross partner? i don't see him, he is not here. >> he is working. >> he is working, okay. he is getting more cots. if that is what the mayor of boston ascending and, more cots. by the number right now is 5500, i suspect by the end of the day that number will rise exponentially. some people just need to come in

from there homes for the night, for example. to some that came in from the area for the nights, and they are getting back to their homes. some other places with relatives, but 5500 for now, expected to rise, we are working with red cross and other partners to make sure that we have the supplies, the food, people are needing clothing. people are coming in and they are, and wet. they are needing clothing, clothing, we have asked some of the business partners for things like diapers. baby formula. things of that nature. we have kids, babies, we have all the way up to senior citizens, and they are needing everything. they are needing clothing, food, medical supplies. and we have a number of partners. we are needing volunteers, whether it is ml campbell, we are needing that.

but things are dynamic, people who may not have been in a crisis state yesterday may find themselves in a crisis state today. so what we want to do is to make the shelters available for them so that they can come out of their crisis situation as they transition through this particular crisis. i think i have covered all that i needed to cover for this morning. if you have any questions, yes? >> mayor, can you talk about the harvey relief -- i'm sorry, the relief fund? >> their hurricane harvey disaster relief fund, that is available, you know similar when we had the storm last year, we set up a houston relief fund, we have now set that up, though hurricane harbor relief on that

will be needed as people after the storm has passed, the need for people and families will continue. certainly they are going to be making requests, but what we have discovered last year is that you have to have some immediate concerns, whether it is in housing, clothing, transportation, you name it. people have stepped up in a major way less time, so that fund has been established, people have started to contribute. that will be a tremendous need. i want to think people like clay walker and others who have reached out to me and said, look, we are available. i want to think people like kevin hart who is indicating an effort for people to give. whether it is exxon child, all of them have contributed to red cross, that is a tremendous need. some will be contributing to their hurricane disaster relief fund which is houston and that area, so that is set up.

>> mayor, we want to know -- i know we have a lot of people stranded, and then, spanish-speaking people calling 911, will we have enough translators? because had this is about diversity, we think more than 100 languages, do we have all the personnel that are needed to respond to the individuals that can probably not communicate in english as well? >> let me just say that we always need assistance, i'm going to be calling on many of the elected officials, we have a meeting with them on a regular basis and asking them to speak to people and their respective districts or the city council district, the legislative district, but i am hesitant to say that you have enough. especially when you're dealing with a dynamic situation that literally can change by the hour, by the day. but let me just say, let me ask, and i hope they do not mind, my spanish is pretty good,

but every now and then i have to call on somebody for added assistance. so let me ask. >> thank you, mayor. [speaking spanish] >> this brings up a very important point for the challenges that the rescuers and police are facing in houston, so many spanish language speakers in houston, big question when people call 911, was there enough spanish language 911 operators to be able to figure out where these folks were who needed rescue, now we see the houston police chief after

addressing the media in english, now in spanish, for those watching down in houston do not speak english. >> we were just listening to the mayor there, who talked about today are dynamic and ongoing situation that they are facing, that the water continues to rise, there are over 5000 people in shelters right now, some 2000 individuals have already been rescued, and right now there are 185 or so rescue requests pending, and ongoing situation as far as just bringing people to safety and making sure that they have what they need. mayor turner saying that they need is great for clothing, diapers, formula, medical supplies. for anything that you can imagine. as they finally find a safe place to stand with none of their belongings and far from their homes. >> 10:15:00 a.m., the houston rescue continues, and probably the most concerning part, the most immediate risk that we have heard is that the water continus

to rise, more water coming down from the skies and also being released by the army corps of engineers. with that, new evacuations ordered in houston this morning amid that epic flooding. as tropical storm harvey has dumped torrential rain that is now being measured in feet, not inches, it has been feet for a couple of days now. i'm leland vittert, the statistic that struck me was 11 trillion gallons of water have fallen from the sky. >> we could see another 50 inches they were estimating before this was over. i'm molly line, the devastation in texas is staggering. estimates already in the billions of dollars, and it looks like things will only get worse with the nonstop downpour in the forecast. some areas seeing a year's worth worth of rain in just days, roads in houston looking more like rivers with chest to deep high river water boiling.

the first responders overwhelming as are the emotions among those who have been rescued. >> i don't know, i'm from adelman, i see these people come in, and this little girl was just frozen. >> is that your biking? you gave her your blanket? >> i did. i have my two kids over there sleeping right now. safe, sound, comfortable. these kids need help. >> they are sold to the bone. >> they are completely soaked. i mean -- i don't know what to say, they are not my kids, but i tell you what, i love them like they are my own. i don't know them from adam, like i said. >> and their parents and grandparents came in. >> yes, the mom is right there. >> leland: the worst of times sometimes bringing out the best in people, many of those evacuees are heading to the houston convention center which has been opened up as a shelter, that's where we find caroline shively, hello. >> hello, time and time again across the city at this hour,

what is laying out, the high water vehicles, the helicopters, the flat bottom boats, people going in and plugging people off of roofs, getting them from their houses and dropping them a dry land. we were asked over and over again, what do i do now? here's the answer, the convention center, 2500 people have artie walked through those doors, room for another 2500. we just saw a school bus dump off a bunch of folks, and getting patted down, no weapons are allowed, then if you walk this way, this is the registration where you check in. we have seen people barefoot. we have seen them with just what they have on, may be a garbage bag full of clothes, may be a coat, i want to introduce you to your own no more, a national guard truck, she is worried your daughter and your grandchild still out there, where are they? what is going on? >> my daughter, we have been calling ever since yesterday to get her and her family out. if they refuse to come to the

residence. she is stranded at 8006 at the u-haul place, they have been there all night long, and i was calling for them before i called her myself. i have a new granddaughter, a granddaughter and a son-in-law, and where i am from, people have guard parents over there, i wants over there, somebody really needs to get over there and tried to save some of the other people, because we are all up on roofs, and people saying that they cannot come. they are giving us all these numbers to call, and nobody is picking up and nobody is responding. >> so literally folks on the roof unable to be rescued. good luck, we will put you in touch with some folks that can hopefully help you. i will take you over here. she is on her way to the shelter area, we have some video that we shot there. they have cartoons, hot meals, blankets, covers, things that you will need. you are allowed to bring your dogs and your pets, but still,

an awful day here. some smiles coming out today, some things being done. room for 2500 more, they will see if this is at max capacity what will happen next if they need to open more shelters. back to you. >> leland: later in the show we will check out with some people on the front line for her and her family, thank you. speak to another top story that we are following, new reaction to the president's pardon of former sheriff joe and some saying that trump's decision could be making lawmakers -- the tropical storm harvey as he continues to visit texas, and fema calling on communities to come together and help as resources are thin. we are live on the ground. >> this is a landmark event, we have not seen a event like this, you could not draw the forecast upcoming you cannot dream this forecast up. d.

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one that keeps you connected to what matters most. >> leland: fox news alert as the impact of harvey stretching far beyond texas, dust storm wreaking havoc on the state's oil and gas industry, which of course means higher gas prices around the country. experts predict a spike to about $0.25 per gallon, harvey forcing key gas facilities along the texas coast to shut down temporarily. and they are tough to restart. drilling platforms and rigs out on the gulf of mexico have been evacuated, limiting the flow of raw crude oil into texas. the bureau of safety and environmental enforcement estimates that the platforms per county a quarter of oil gas output in the gulf have already been shut down.

just one of the many impacts here. so part of the storm. >> molly: harvey is the most powerful storm to hit houston and nearly half a century, because it is not going anywhere fast, the floods that it is causing are that much more catastrophic. thousands of people in and around the city still struggling to get to higher ground. texas congresswoman whose district is centered in houston says that she is confident her constituents will pull through. but that they can use all the help that they can get. >> i can say that with the resiliency of houston and those who are dry, we need towns, we need -- towels, food, if i can use the terminology, plucked off a bridge is, so they are soaking wet, there are babies that need formula, if you will come i i te red cross for really doing all that they can do, but sometimes when you are at a maximum coming you really need help. >> molly: join us now, texas

attorney general, thank you for being here. i know it is an overwhelming situation that you are all facing, 2000 people rested, request stills standing. what are you doing to pull in the resources and to help get those folks to safety? not so sure that the attorney general can hear us at this moment, so we will work on getting his earpiece centered, we can begin the conversation again. right now we are just keeping an eye on everything happening in houston. across the greater texas area as the waters continued to rise. we know that things could get worse very quickly before they get better, and we want to try and reach out and to see if we have the attorney general back in. we do not. we will work on getting him, in the meantime, all hands on deck in houston. emergency management officials say that the resources are stretched very thin there. they are calling on the public to help.

we see those everyday heroes coming in from states away. many people answering the call with the threat of even more rain. we will also be speaking with a former navy meteorologist about just what lies ahead for the houston area. >> it is overwhelming the amount of rain. it is too much for the first responders. they need help.

>> leland: former president and mrs. george h.w. bush reaching out to their fellow texans by the tropical storm. barbara and i are a main, but our hearts are in houston. we are praying for all of our estonians and texans affected by harvey and inspired by the flotilla of volunteers, points of light, all who are helping their call with their neighbors. the local of elected officials for their grit and determination in the face of this extraordinary storm. this we know, houston and texas will come together and rebuild, obviously we are seeing that. >> molly: and to this, a fox news alert with an update on what we know about tropical storm harvey, the numbers are staggering. the governor of texas claiming 54 counties as disaster to area areas. and harvey is expected to dump a

couple more feet of rain on the city by the end of the week. houston officials holding a news conference this morning saying that there have been 75,000 calls to 911 and 2000 rescues. the national guard has been helping to rescue some people by helicopter. fema estimating 30,000 texans are expected to stay in shelters after the storm, more than 300,000 have lost power. meanwhile, analysts are estimating the costs could reach 30 billion or $40 billion. >> leland: the rain continues to fall, that means that there is a need for more and more rescues. they are happening quite literally by the minute by one calculation, houston four times the minute. people on their cars, as you can see, on the roofs as well. the national weather service saying that the threats from this storm into the rain and the rising water will continue.

>> as i noted, houston is in a lull right now, but moderate and heavy rains later today. and into tomorrow, we will see how long that lasts. it all depends on the track. and it is about a 15-20-inch rainfall still forecast associating with the mass. and noticing the shift towards the east, southwest louisiana and going into northeast texas is included. we have to watch that area very carefully. >> leland: going live in texas south of houston. we saw a literal navy that came out yesterday to help rescue folks. are they still needed there? or have they move on? >> everywhere you look, you see people at work, it does not matter what direction you look in. the boats are running. they have been running. we were out here at 4:00 this

morning, but you could hear the roar of fan boats, believe it or not, in the darkness as they were going around through all of these flooded neighborhoods trying to find anyone that is still trapped inside their homes. but again, a lot of the people that you are seeing here, not first responders so much, but these are the volunteers. these are the people who again have answer the calls for help. they have come out here and launched their boats. they are trying to do what they can to get people out of here. this is still very much an active search and rescue. now, my photojournalist went out on one of those boats, and we want to show you video. because where they are going, you cannot even access it by car. it is only on the boats. and when you drive through these neighborhoods, i set it last hour, i will say it again, it is just like a neighborhood that you are probably living and

watching at home. imagine if you looked out your window in angier street was gone and it looked more like a river. so it is really powerful when you see the images of people going up and down spruce street, main street in boats. what they are doing is bringing people out coming into than they are dropping them off and sort of central locations. then they are being shuttled out of here. we have seen people shuttled out by a school bus, charter bus, even dump trucks. there is just an urgent need to get people out. and we have literally seen people loaded up in dump trucks. look at this live, that is a fan boats, not the everglades, that is going down spruce street here in dickinson. this is a community of about 20,000 people or so, a little bit quiet -- sleepy town just

south of houston. follow me over this way, if we can show this. i was sitting here this morning, and i thought to myself, it is monday. a lot of people probably would be headed to work at this time. i visualize this intersection, you see the road signs there. interstate 45 north, ironically the sign on top of it, evacuation routes. while, you cannot go much further north on interstate 45 because it is shut down. and i thought that this would normally be on monday busy with people heading to work and dropping the kids off at school. and now, this is what it looks like. >> leland: worth noting the personal danger, so many of those rescuers are taking by being out in these waters as well. casey stegall on the ground in dickinson, thank you. molly has more. >> molly: joining us now, ken paxton, texas attorney general, thank you for being here. we are fortunate to chat with you today. i know you have a lot of work to do and are very busy.

>> yes, crazy couple of days, thank you for having me on. speak to our hearts are with you and all the people struggling, we know that there are been thousands of rescues already, that there are hundreds -- 185 rescues that they are working on in the houston area command more perhaps that we do not know about. a lot of people coming in from other states, bring in their own boats. we have seen jet skis. what is being done in the state level to work with the city and the federal government to find those people and bring them to safety? >> this is being coordinated through governor abbott's office, they have updates all the time. they are being contacted with the federal government. continuing contact with the mayor. it is a coordinated effort, one like i've never seen before. i think it is the best coordinated effort that has ever happened in texas. that is despite the fact that we have a storm that is unprecedented. we are used to dealing with the storms, but nothing like this in our history. >> molly: you talk about unprecedented, the people of the volunteers coming in from different states and bringing

their own equipment, flood waters can be. a lot of danger, cars underneath, they may not know what is there, what would you say that those people that are coming in from states away using their own resources and trying to find people in very desperate situations? >> you are right about being insidious, because floodwaters after the rain stops are going to rise, but i would tell them to work with the first responders, work through the organized structure that we have going, because we need their help. we definitely need volunteers. we are grateful for the help, but we need them to work with the organized structure that we have in place. >> molly: so many everyday heroes, even if you can't get to texas, we know there is a great need. we heard the mayor talk about the need for clothing, diapers, supplies, for really everything that her going to be for the people in shelters. tens of thousands, who knows for how long, so what would you say to the nation watching this unfolding? >> i would first of all say thank you for contributing,

please continue through the red cross, organizations like minutemen that are working on the ground, i've been in touch with other attorney generals, sean reyes who is providing supplies for some of these people. and i've gotten calls from all over the nation. it is humbling to know that people are behind us and that they are coming to our aid during a difficult time for the state. >> molly: it is not over yet. we know that more water is on the way, ken paxton, thank you so much for joining us for the few minutes today. >> thank you, keep us in your prayers. >> leland: well, harvey had the world's eyes on texas, president trump made his very first pardon, and a controversial one at that. an in-depth look at the media coverage of the pardoning of sheriff joe arpaio when we come back. >> that was a very unique and personal decision that the president took. he made that decision on friday night. i don't think that that took more than a minute of his time on friday night.

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>> molly: a new wrinkle in president trump's war with the media, concerns of the press may be giving the president the upper hand, the way it has cover things like the recent rally in phoenix. >> doesn't have a plan the president's hands? he says that the media is so hostile that he cannot get a fair shake, some of them, not all, but some over the top? >> unfortunately, yes, such a perfect example of that, everybody saying that the president is lying. the media is not getting away, and then heading away from the speech, so this perfect illustration. the other networks kept him on, but the perfect illustration of what we are talking about. criticizing the media harshly, and then the media makes him look right. that is obviously a problem, people need to take a breath and be more rational. >> molly: just this weekend as harvey bore down on texas, the friday news dump when president trump granted his first official pardon.

joe concho for the media hill, and judy miller, prized author, writer, and news contributor. we appreciate you being here. kicking things off, we talked about on friday, the president putting out the pardon, he has not seen the legislative victory that he wanted, and yet the big action takes place, is a controversial with the storm brewing? >> book, i think that the president should have woke up an opportunity to have god to change the story and the headline, because all the news had been bad for him. the pardon was not good news of a law enforcement officer who ignored the rights of latino americans. this is the latest in a string of bad news. but it took a category 4 hurricane to blow donald trump off the front pages of every newspaper in the country. so i think at this point he would welcome an opportunity to show that his government is

prepared, that fema is prepared, and that he is following the storm. >> not anymore correct in terms of the press being so vitriolic towards the president that it plays into the argument. i have said before, i will say again, the line between straight news and editorial has been obliterated. and what people see the grandstanding and hear the editorializing, they are at me at a rock concert when talking about politics, shut up, sing. shut up, bringing the news. but to the point, to criticize the president, you brought up the lack of major legislative victories before, but when the press starts becoming psychological experts without to the degree coming in because they they read a 152nd wikipedia editor on dementia, says that this is personal and has nothing to do with policy analysis. >> molly: you touched on the storm coming into the town that this could be a moment for the president, how is he doing so far? most people see this as a test of an administration, staffing shake-ups, the major legislation

did not get through, tax reform has yet to get done, but how can you look at it when a american state he is on the line? >> he has to do two things that george w. bush did not do with hurricane katrina in 2005. first of all, he needs to appear concerned, interested, not do a flyover. and second of all, his administration has to show that the emergency management people are ready to spring into action, they are saving lives, and that he is working with the state of florida gives to save lives coming in so far he has done that. >> molly: do you feel like he is reacting in that way? at the beginning of the storming and hear the president saying, we are working together, on this, on this, and then in the aftermath, the look back, you want to avoid the moment that a heck of a job, brownie type of moment. >> i would say that most everybody would say that the administration has been

appropriate in terms of actions. the problem is he has been tweeting out other things, modeling the message. he watched the sunday morning talk shows yesterday and saw a massive amount of attention to arpaio, his reflexes to say that i have to fight back. there is a time and a place for all of that coming into this ain't it. >> molly: your thoughts on that, judy, he has been tweeting. whenever we look at the stream of tweets, it does seem a stream of mind. a lot of things that he is covering, and supporters will argue that he can chew gum, talk at the same time, but at the same time what about other folks that say, every tweet, every message should be about the storm? >> i agree with joe, it is modeling the message when he interrupts his observations about what is going on in texas with a promotion for himself and a political appearance in missouri, or an attack on the democratic's head into her of that state. that looks small, petty, and it

looks a.d.d. and distraction. >> the optics are that he looks insensitive when he is talking about arpaio, antifa protesters at berkeley, these are legitimate things that i would normally have no problem him pushing back on, but to do it right now gives all the critics the ammunition that they need to say he is insensitive. even though the actions have been good. >> molly: what will matter in the end is the recovery after the storm and what matters and those people's lives as they are coming back from that. joe concha, judy miller, thank you for being here. >> molly: molly, as you point out to, there is much to recover from, there is the flooding in houston, but this is rock port texas, where the hurricane came ashore as a category 4, the destruction of 140-mile-an-hour winds, drone coverage coming here. each one of these homes destroyed is a story. there is nothing left in these places here, and you can see that these were apartment buildings, this one completely decimated. not much left.

and we first responders going door to door, kicking in doors making sure that there was no one trapped inside of these communities, but the recovery effort begins with trying to clear the roads. as you can see, the roads are flooded, first clear the roads, then all of the sudden you need to bring power back in. you need to bring cellular communications back in. only then, can the rebuilding process take place. they are talking about to the rebuilding process in houston, rockport, taking years. and when you see the totality of the devastation coming you understand why. and of the rain continues to come down in texas. when we come back, a little bit more on the forecast. for just how long it will continue raining. com? hey! badda book. badda boom! mr. badda book. badda boom!

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>> leland: a fox news alert as the waters continue to rise in houston. houston fire tells our matt finn that they have been on more than 5000 runs and a 24-hour period, he did the math for us, that is four permanent, that does not count the ariel rescue stacy right there, bill reed, former director of the national hurricane center joining us on the phone, we cannot get him to a studio. good to hear you, sir. >> yes, glad to be with you. in the island in the lake. >> leland: it seems as though there are a lot of people in the predicament. you are safe and you still have power, but once a meteorologist, always a meteorologist. how long does it keep raining in houston and once it stops raining, how long do the waters continue to rise? >> well, mostly bad news, although there is some that will

get out of the heavy rain, wednesday, not like in the current radar trends, looks like we will be getting a lot of shots of 1-2-inch rainfall rates across the area and probably through tonight. while not extreme like the big rain on saturday night, but that piles up and aggravates a flood situation. the load that is causing this should move across the general area on tuesday and exit the area on wednesday, the river flooding depending on the stream, some of it will last more than a week. >> leland: as we know, even after it stops raining, the waters keep rising, you have a unique perspective. and now retired, you are listening to them, do you feel as though officials in texas took these warnings seriously enough? if so, is this storm just simply overwhelming them? or are there not enough

resources even if you called up everybody to be able to deal with it? >> i think you are closer on the latter point, as a society we have allowed 6.5 million people to live in a very whether prone area for floods and hurricanes. we accept the 100 year event as a safe place to build if we are just outside of it. it is not -- but a lot of the flooding you will see from this is and what would be a 500 year or greater event. almost flooded here at the house, and i'm not even near what they say is a 500 year event. you can't evacuate everybody in advance. it is not feasible. and as he said, the responders, when everybody is impacted in the responders are themselves, it is a very challenging job. >> leland: challenging to say the least, bringing out the best in folks. her roadwork at every turn, build, we appreciate your time,

and godspeed. >> thank you very much. >> molly: we are continuing to watch harvey, it has already put roads, highways underwater as it stalls out over houston, how much worse will things get? we outfox coverage coming up. part of our biggest sale of the year where all beds are on sale. and right now save 50% on the labor day limited edition bed. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.

>> molly: thank you for watching, and a number right no now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert, rv devastating impact, life loss, neighborhoods underwater, highways as well. the head of fema calling the catastrophic flooding a landmark event. it is hardly over. this is "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner coming here today sandra smith, host of "kennedy" kennedy. also dagen mcdowell, and #oneluckyguy, dennis dyer on fire, and chris stirewalt, he is outnumbered. you have so much going on. >>