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media. stay with the fox news channel, continuing coverage of hurricane harvey. we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> tropical storm harvey shows no mercy. the numbers are staggering. the destruction is devastating, and the images are heartbreakin heartbreaking. >> i lost everything. my whole house is underwater. the whole bottom level is underwater. we lost everything. >> hello, everyone. i am patti ann browne in new york. >> i am trace gallagher in woodlands, texas, with continuing coverage of tropical storm harvey, a crisis of epic proportions. as mother nature continues to
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unleash. deadly fury on the people of southeast texas. thousands remain stranded in chest-high floodwaters while they wait desperately for help to arrive. >> rescue crews are stretched to their limits. evacuation centers are running out of space. the rain keeps falling, the floodwaters keeps climbing and the forecast is grim. tropical storm harvey is regaining strength and could be poised to deliver houston the second of a 1-2 punch, leading many to fear the worst is yet to come. >> we see neighbor helping neighbor, friend helping friend, and stranger helping stranger. you see that all over. you watch on television. you see such incredible work and love and teamwork. we are one american family. we hurt together. we struggled together. believe me, we endured together.
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>> patti ann: nearly 60 counties in southeast texas have been declared disaster sites and that number could climb dramatically in the coming days. to give you an idea of the size of this crisis, one meteorologist tells us that by wednesday, harvey will have saturated the lone star state with enough rain to fill all of the nfl and division i college football stadiums 100 times over. fox news correspondent steve harrigan joins us from rosenberg, texas, with the latest. what are you seeing what's the mood of the people? >> the giant sinkhole has open behind me and getting bigger. some emergency vehicles are on the scene to make sure no one comes near here. we've been talking to state troopers who told us the real concern is about a number of smaller, older bridges in the area. so much water dumping down, they are concerned about the structure. some roads, some ridges, how they are going to hold up.
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at this as the floodwaters continue to rise and some over top of the main roads. what's happening is the areas of escape, the areas of being able to move around are getting smaller and smaller. this, as conditions are getting worse and worse. already we've seen a number of different neighborhoods here switch their status from volunteer evacuation to mandatory evacuation. even with the message from police officers that, in certain conditions, they will not be able to come and rescue people. some dire straits and as far as shelters go, the main shelter here is a high school. that's full right now. a lot of the church is being used also are full. they are even using furniture stores as shelters. when you do run into people in these places, they are often a little disoriented, cold, wet. it's a really grim picture of a situation that's going to get worse and worse each hour. patti ann, back to you.
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>> patti ann: steve harrigan live in rosenberg texas. thank you. trace. >> for context, we should know steve harrigan is about 40 miles south of where i am and where we are, we have also had a number of evacuations. we've been talking to people in the hotel we're staying at and they been telling us about losing their homes. how it went from literally nothing. i mean, their house was fine and then four to five hours later, they had eight, 10 feet of water inside their house. i want to bring in our meteorologist. i keep looking at these bands. the weather service says they may need to change some of the coloring because there is so much red because of the rain. all we see behind us is constant bands of rain and wind. >> we have had to change some of the shades of our coloring because these numbers are getting so high and so impressive that typically we look at numbers and beginning up to 20 inches. we have surpassed that long ago.
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here is currently what's out there. we are seeing heavy rain in the houston area, especially south of houston towards galveston. all along the coast stretching all the way east as far as new orleans. rain continued to fall, rolling off the coast. we have seen several tornadoes off the coast in the last several hours. here is where the storm is now, and this is where maybe things finally begin to change. it has settled back down over the gulf of mexico. it's allowing it to pick up more moisture so rain is going to continue to be a problem. winds around 45 miles an hour. this is going to follow this yellow path, and here you are by wednesday. expect it to pass houston from now through tuesday into wednesday. by the time it gets here, houston will be on the backside of the system hopefully beginning to get less rain by wednesday. this will continue to run up this track. as it does so, very heavy rain on the right-hand side of the storm before coming a low
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pressure system. continues to move north through shreveport and memphis. you're going to see uranus far east as atlanta, memphis, maybe st. louis. that's going to give an opportunity for houston to dry out. this is the future radar. this is tuesday morning. heavy rain and the houston area. as we continue to move along, this system is slowly, slowly going to move out of the area. by early wednesday, you begin to get maybe a couple breaks. it's going to take probably half of the day on wednesday until it really starts to move out. that's enough time for this rain to continue to pile up. this is from right now. this isn't including what we've already seen. this is additional rainfall that i'm now showing you. perhaps another 10 inches in several locations in the houston area. there will be spots, especially as you travel to the east, where these numbers get even higher. we are still looking at maybe 1l
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inches to the rain we have already seen. this is a really big one. you know what, beyond that, and i want to point out quickly. i haven't had a lot of chance to talk about it. we have a low pressure system on the east coast as well. this would be a big story if it weren't for everything folks are experiencing in houston. >> adam and the fox extreme weather center. nobody knows more than the people here that this has been an extraordinarily slow moving storm. i want to show people this video. it kind of shows the backbone of the people of houston. this was all along the same waterway. we saw multitudes of things. it was unbelievable to watch people helping others who needed help. they went out in boats and brought people to shore. there were rescues, everything in this waterway and it gives you an idea that they were in this together.
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people of houston gathered together and fought for each other and help one another and we've been watching amazing, amazing stories and signs of heroism along the way. to watch these pictures unfold, it really was something to behold. it was a devastating storm. a huge gathering of some love and neighborly things in texas we have not seen in quite some time. >> patti ann: trace, for sure. it's mind-boggling. the help pillar giving each other is heartening -- they help people are giving each other is heartening. galveston, texas, was the sight of the deadliest disaster in u.s. history. the galveston hurricane more than a century ago. now facing some of the worst rains hurricane harvey have to offer. much of the city is under several feet of water. galveston county issued a mandatory evacuation for the town of dickinson.
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this is where the iconic photo was taken of nursing home residents stranded. these residents have been airlifted to safety. joining us is dr. craig brown. thanks so much for joining us. we are so sorry for what you're going through right now. >> thank you very much. >> patti ann: what's the situation in galveston county right now? >> well, right now on the island in galveston, we seem to be faring fairly well. we have had an unprecedented amount of rain as the entire area has, but we are pretty high and dry right now compared to the mainland, especially dickinson, clearlake, up through houston. >> patti ann: speaking to the wider galveston county, you mentioned dickinson where the nursing home photo was taken. how did it come to that? >> well, it was one of these
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situations, each one of these hurricanes have a different personality. this one here, it was just all the water and the rain that came here we have, we are seeing flooding that was happening literally overnight in areas that have never experienced flooding before. >> patti ann: it's amazing. people were so stunned by it. dickinson has now been evacuated, and as we've been reporting, there are mandatory evacuations imposed in many parts of texas. the conditions are difficult. we had steve harrigan on seeing bridges have sinkholes. there are structural concerns. dangerous to leave at this point but even more dangerous to stay? >> well, that's exactly right. in galveston, especially on the islands, we are telling everyone to just shelter in place. now we did an evacuation today
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of over 300 individuals, most of those were from the mainland and the dickinson area. but we wanted to make sure those individuals weren't kept in harm's way as harvey turns back and heads back this way. >> patti ann: that's the thing. it's going to circle around again. we often see people breathe a sigh of relief when those high winds of the initial hurricane pass only to be devastated either flooding and storm surge. were people taken by surprise? >> very much so. we experienced ike in 2008 and that was a storm surge that devastated this area at that time. and we haven't experienced this amount of water coming in this short a period of time in the history or in the memory of many individuals that have been on the island for a long period of time. >> patti ann: what different agencies are on the ground and how many volunteers are helping
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out? >> well, we have all types of agencies. of course, all the emergency response teams from all the different communities around, the red cross, salvation army. all of the agencies that are involved with community service. they are working in the shelters. they are working in different areas. one of the concerns that we are having in the entire area that we will experience in the days to come is the lack of resources. food, fuel, those types of things. that we just won't be able to get because trucks really can't come down into this area. >> patti ann: yeah, and meanwhile the shelters are filling up. >> they are. galveston island, we do not have any shelters open on the island. but the shelters up in the mainland area and especially up in the houston area are filling
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up rapidly. i think there's over 5,000 now at the george r brown convention center in houston. >> patti ann: where people took shelter after katrina years ago. the focus right now is on saving people. at some point, the damage will be assessed. what do you estimate be the financial cost to galveston county? >> i think it will be massive. i think it will set all-time records. as i mentioned, when ike hit in 2008, it set, i can't remember the total amount but it was a massive amount. ranks as one of the most devastating economically speaking hurricanes there was. i think this will probably top it. >> patti ann: tell me about the spirit of the people right now. >> i think everybody is very focused on helping. i think everybody is looking
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outward to see what they can do to help their fellow man. i just came from the emergency operating center for galveston, and we are getting a lot of calls of people wanting to help. they want to help with the evacuations. they want to help with supplies, or they want to come up and do whatever they can for their fellow man. >> patti ann: again, we wish you all the best of luck and our prayers are with you. dr. craig brown. >> thank you very much. >> patti ann: want to remind people because we are talking about much help they are going to need. the phone number is 1-800-435-7669. that's 1-800-help now. that is the red cross or go to redcross.org. they are going to need all the help they can get. trace. >> we talk about the breaking news.
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in addition to the tragic events in texas, we are following another developing story out of asia. out of north korea, there are reports tonight that north korea has fired yet another missile toward and over japan. it's believed the missile was an intermediate range missiles similar to the type north korea threatens to aim at guam. japanese officials say there was no damage to ships or on land and that the missile separated into three parts before falling into the sea. the prime minister of japan warned his nation is prepared to respond to all situations to protect his people. he has called for an urgent meeting of the u.n. to discuss further punitive action against north korea. all eyes clearly are on texas which is feeling the full force of tropical storm harvey. >> patti ann: text is not the only state feeling the effects of the storm. coming up, we had to neighboring louisiana where the floodwaters are rising of the worst could
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>> while the rescue effort is in high gear, and louisiana they are being hard-hit also. the worst is truly up to come. between five and 9 inches of rain have already fallen on parts of louisiana but meteorologists are calling for up to 20 more by the end of the week as the remnants of hurricane harvey move east along the gulf coast. let's get to rick leventhal. he is in lake charles, louisian
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louisiana. >> there are water rescues going on in this neighborhood of lake charles at this moment. earlier today we spoke with the sheriff of the parish who said it's been raining for the past seven days and this area was fully saturated and they could not take anymore. while it's not raining right now, they've had very heavy bands of rain, heavy downpours that have come throughout the day and night. it's resulted in flooding. before we get to the rescue scum i want to show you some video we shot in the street on our way here. a few blocks from here, driving through water that was bumper deep. there were a couple vehicles we passed that were stuck on the street on a main road here in charles, louisiana. a fire truck went roaring by. trucks were getting through the high water but here in this neighborhood, you can't see it but down the block, you might see some flashing lights. there are police officers down the block and there are boats in the neighborhood that are pulling people out of homes. the fire department tells us they got between 25 and 26 calls
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from residents concerned with two or three people in each house with waste-deep water in their homes because of the heavy rains and overflowing waterways. there -- they have three boats. they said there is seven more on the way to pull the people out of their homes just like they've been doing in houston and other parts of texas. they are doing it here in lake charles, louisiana, tonight. there is a staging area. we have fire department officials correlating the efforts, getting the calls and sending people to try to bring people out of homes. a short time ago we saw a pickup truck roll-up with some elderly folks. there are ambulances coming in and out. we saw another flat bottom boat come through presumably to head back in the neighborhood to effects more rescues of people who are at this moment trapped in their homes. >> we know the storm can pick up more water.
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it's very powerful, moving your way. rick leventhal live in lake charles. thank you. >> patti ann: trace, the worst storm to hit our nation in 12 years continues to threaten life and property. images from southeast texas revealed harvey's deadly and destructive force. >> when we come back, how the victims of this disaster are weathering the storm. >> we've been in water all day. since actually last night. we didn't know help was coming but then you came. i think you so much. -- i thank you so much. introducing walit's a great days. for a great deal! tender, center-cut sirloin or chicken on the barbie, fries, a draft beer or a coke, all for just $9.99. only for a limited time. so don't walk, run to outback.
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stay sharp people! >> patti ann: it's been three days since hurricane harvey made landfall in texas. the category 4 hurricane was the strongest storm to hit the u.s. in 12 years. while the winds have died down and harvey was downgraded to a tropical storm, the flooding is catastrophic, and the worst could still be up to come. i am patti ann browne in new york. >> i am trace gallagher in woodlands, texas. the winds have picked up a little bit but the rain seems to have dropped off. when the wind picks up, those bands continually to come in. over many parts of texas there are torrential rains. and parts of louisiana in the floodwaters continue to rise. there are three confirmed deaths so far in the flooding here in texas, and officials fear that number will grow.
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we spoke to the sheriff who said he's concerned that there are many bodies that have still not been found. he has nothing to back that up, but that's what the sheriff said from harris county. let's bring in the fox meteorologist in the extreme weather center, adam clocks. we are not trying to push this storm on anybody but we could really use it to move along out of houston. >> it is moving so slowly. obviously the folks in houston know how slowly it's been moving but it wasn't like this a couple days ago. now stretching all the way over to new orleans. everything you're looking at here in the red area is a tornado watch. conditions have been there since the system moved onshore friday, we have seen 32 tornadoes as a result of the hurricane and the tropical system. for now we aren't looking at any sort of torn attic activity. heavy rain stretching all the way along the coast, and yes still including houston, texas, where at least along the coast
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towards galveston, there is still heavy rain. eventually it's going to move out to. we are getting closer to that point. currently the center of circulation is over the gulf of mexico. it's picking up more moisture. we are south of houston. this is going to have to track past that area which means more rain as it drifts to the north. pay attention to the time-stamp in the corner. tuesday evening. it is still in that direction. it begins to take off wednesday. i think by wednesday evening, we have mostly passed the houston area. maybe a little bit of rain on the backside of it by thursday. far enough away that the rain has stopped. continues to move towards shreveport by the weekend and then leaves the gulf coast entirely. what does that look like in reality? here i am taking you through it. tuesday rain early tomorrow morning. it continues to linger. right on the border, it's going to be just off to the east stretching along the coast.
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rain is going to continue to fall, movies of the heaviest rain along the texas-louisiana border. here are the totals. there are going to be impressive ones. we are starting from scratch. i know there's lots of spots already at 25, 30, 35 inches. this is additional. perhaps another 10 inches in houston. you begin to look at some of these bigger numbers than you're getting up to 15 to 20 inches of rain. it's going to pile up in a big way across portions of eastern texas but even running into portions of louisiana. still very heavy rain on the way. that's why it's no surprise we are seeing these huge areas, hundreds of miles, that are under a flash flood watch. everything in this darker red color, those are flash flood warnings. that means the flash flood is already in place. each one of these purple icons, that's a major flood event in a local river. i've been going through the
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rivers today and all of these are getting towards record-breaking highs. it's amazing to see how high these rivers are, and that's something that even as the system moves out, rivers will continue to rise. all this water will continue to drain. >> they are concerned about a river 15 miles north of us. all 22 watersheds in and around houston and harris county are overburdened and about ready to burst. alex klotz and the fox extreme weather center. thank you. the downpour has yet to subside about leaders in the lone star state are already looking ahead and preparing for the long road toward recovery. it's expected to come as you might imagine, take years and a whole lot of money. some fear areas pummeled by harvey they never be the same. with us by phone is dan patrick, lieutenant governor of texas.
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it's one of those things, lieutenant governor, where you look over this thing and you say wow, the devastation day by day just continues to get worse. >> trace, it does. i've been here for 38 years in texas and i've been through a lot of these but never anything like this. i went out with a volunteer group today going through neighborhoods house to house to rescue people. the great spirit of texans who have volunteered, this flotilla of ships we had from louisiana, all over texas, states. jet skis and people with big trucks. we were in a big army truck today that someone brought from fort hood years ago. i know the area very well, but it's still breathtaking to go into some of these neighborhoods, many that have never flooded before, and see people standing on their lawn, a small patch of grass, hanging on and waiting for somebody.
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fortunately these volunteers were there to pick them up. imagine this. just to paint a picture for your audience. the storm hit rockport, the hurricane. now we have this terrible flooding in houston. that would be like a hurricane hitting new york city and boston being flooded. it's about the same distance, nearly 200 miles. the breadth of this storm and everything in-between. most people under water or water around them, making it impassable to get out. >> we were talking about this dispute today between the governor greg abbott and the mayor of houston about, one was saying evacuate low-lying areas. the other was saying not. the truth of the whole matter is, lieutenant governor, nobody had any idea what this storm would do. nobody knew. there was not a right. there wasn't a wrong decision. you have to kind of make a game day choice sometimes and it was a matter of, it was just a matter of happenstance the way this turned out. >> well, you know, we had a
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forecast that we believed would dump somewhere between 15 and 25, may be 30 inches on houston depending on where it would come in and how it would linger. there were some people who looked at it, and we were concerned about 40 inches. i shared it with my family and friends and constituents that i talked to that if you can move, it's not a bad idea. that's what the governor was saying. in terms of the politics of it, as the governor said today, that decision was made. it's time to move on. trace, that one thing that's terrible, and as terrible as it is. it's terrible. a lady we picked up today, i wanted to do an interview with her and she just broke down in tears. she could not handle it. i didn't interview her. they have lost everything they had. a lot of people aren't insured because a lot of these people didn't have flood insurance. they are not in floodplain areas. with all of this tragedy, everywhere i go and everyone on television being interviewed and
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you have done a lot of interviews. people have an incredible spirit, and today there are no democrats and no republicans. there are no moderates or liberals or conservatives. everybody is, no pun intended, the same boat. everybody is helping everybody. it doesn't matter. you see this one texas spirit. i always like to say when i give a speech that no one moves to texas. they arrive here and texas moves into them. there is something about texas, and i'm just proud of the volunteers, first responders. we are all in. governor abbott is doing a fabulous job. the president has done a terrific job stepping up early on with getting everything we asked for. the governor, i talked to him tonight. he keeps giving the feds and a+ and what they are doing. we're going to get through it but you're right, it's going to be a new normal. it's going to be years for some people.
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but we'll make it, and i would ask people to go to redcross.org and give money. i want to thank everybody for their prayers and think these other states from california, new york, louisiana, mississippi. we are very grateful and the spirit of the people of texas is not broken. it's only stronger. >> i think you are right, lieutenant governor. i see the generosity of the people around the country but what i worry about, the same thing i'm worried about in the days of hurricane katrina. after a certain amount of time, the cameras go home and the nation's attention turns elsewhere. as you said, this is a year's worth long recovery process. what is the goal? how do you keep the people motivated? how do you keep there spirit up when the country's attention is elsewhere? >> our attention, it will move to the next new cycle but we
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learned things from katrina. we learned things from rita, ike, the tropical depressions we have. most of the problems -- tropical storms we had a lot of flooding. we are as experienced as anybody in the country. one of the things, and the governor and i talked about it a few hours ago, now that you have first rescue, and we are still rescuing out. then you have rescue and recovery and then rebuilding. as we get people in shelters, as the fema man on the scene said the object is not for them to linger in shelters a long time. it's to get them into, and by the way, anyone in the 18 counties listening to my voice and watching you, it is disaster assistance.gov. you can sign up for fema benefits. we want to get them into apartments. want to get them in housing. want to get them somewhere. we don't want them to linger in these centers. it's not good for anyone.
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it will take time and people have to be patient but the federal government is really on top of it and they've done a fabulous job. i think it's because the president is a business guy and he says get this done. it's what he thinks. so we will get there. but it's going to be a long haul and we will have to address, where do kids go to school? where do people who have federal assistance, where do they get it? where did they get their social security checks. whatever it may be, it's a massive operation. our church community, our volunteer community, the state, federal government, local government will step up. we'll get there but it's a big challenge. i am praying, and i will do all i can that we don't make those mistakes that were made before. there are going to be days when it's troubling but, and there will days -- will get there. >> from our perspective, your people have been inspiring. this this has been a horrifyingt
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but the tributes, the outpouring of love has been inspiring. if anyone is going to get through it, texas well. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. thank you. >> can i tell you a story? i am out there in the rain today with a volunteer crew, there's only one or two families left in this neighborhood. the neighborhood is flooded out and we pull out in an army truck and there's a lady and a man probably in their 50s or 60s and they don't want to go with us because they have 45 cats. they are a cat rescue and they don't want to leave their cats behind. the lady comes running up to the truck. i didn't have a sign on the truck. i was helping with the volunteers. she sees me and says lieutenant governor, if i had known you were coming, i would've had dinner for you. think about this, this is a lady, they are the last people in a neighborhood. it's a ghost town. she is there with her cats and says "lieutenant governor, i would have made dinner if i'd
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known you were coming. what are you doing out here? "she walks through the water and she's pretending to do the backstroke and i'm thinking lady, i love you. this is what it says. i didn't mean to take more of your time but it was a special story. >> it was a terrific story, we appreciate it. lieutenant governor, thank you for your time, as always. >> thank you. you do a great job, as always. >> texas is still in the grips of tropical storm harvey. you can look behind me, the wind is picking up. the rain has dropped off. the danger is far from over in some people have taken advantage of the opportunity to make a quick buck by price gouging during a crisis. >> patti ann: for our guest is the texas attorney general's communications director and we will ask him about the legal ramifications of taking advantage of a natural disaster. a lot more still ahead.
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>> welcome back to our continuing coverage of the disaster in texas. among the many communities hit hard is the community of galveston. we are live with an update. lauren. >> what we are seeing here in galveston, in galveston county, and a lot of people are evacuating to the island because a lot of the mainland areas are something underwater at this point. there was one town we were in, dickinson, texas. we got an alert that said we may not be able to rescue anyone who stays. we have seen people rolling up to hotels along the seawall boulevard trying to get rooms because their towns are quickly filling up with water. we have seen a number of
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shelters filling to capacity. people are transporting people from this airport, one of the only airports still open in the area. they are transporting people up to dallas just to get people out of the area. as more and more people get out of their homes here in galveston county, they are coming here and there is not enough room to handle all these people. >> lauren blanchard, thank you. >> patti ann: looting and price gouging in texas. unscrupulous people taking advantage of a natural disaster. a handful of looters have been arrested but police are mainly too busy rescuing those in danger to worry about protecting every story. more than 500 complaints have been filed with the texas attorney general against businesses taking advantage of people when they are most vulnerable. joining us now is marc rylander, he's the communications director for the texas attorney general. he's in victoria, texas, an area
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heavily damaged by harvey's intense wins. >> great to be with you. >> attorney general paxton has been on air warning against price gouging, looting, how much of that are you seeing? >> we recognize that we've had numerous calls throughout the weekend, hundreds of calls. people in all weekend working on the hotline command center in austin then calls were coming in literally every hour from people who were being taken advantage of. even before we would normally see people taken advantage of. you expect people after a storm when unscrupulous contractors and people like that can come in and try and gouge prices. but here early on we were seeing, especially in water, gasoline, lodging, people who are bad actors in a time when people are most vulnerable. >> patti ann: people are desperate for the basics such as drinking water. how much were people trying to
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sell a bottle of water for? because we had reports of a big box store selling water for $42 a case. a competing store selling a case of water for $99. that's ridiculous. it's ludicrous, and our office is going to after those people and we will deal with them and any others who try to follow suit. >> patti ann: what are the penalties? >> it can be up to $20,000 per price gouging in texas unless, if the victim is 65 or over, then the penalty jumps up to up to $250,000. the legislature did a great job in creating statutes that protect people for such a time as this, and we are going to make sure, our office will make sure and attorney general paxton will make sure these people are brought to justice. >> patti ann: marc rylander we will be speaking to you later on. we have a break right now but thank you so much.
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good luck down there. god bless. federal help is on the way to the victims of tropical storm harvey but can our government afford to cover the cost of such a devastating disaster? >> when we come back, fema to the rescue. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru outback models. now through august 31.
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>> and the forces of nature hit hard, we can count on the federal emergency management agency to bail us out, right? there are concerns that the magnitude of damage caused by tropical storm harvey could drain the coffers of the agency. with us by phone's former fema official thomas news you.
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give us an idea of why it's important to get the response plan right. >> it's a pleasure to be here. it's important to get the response plan right because the president sets the dominoes in motion in terms of getting not only the public assistance and individual assistance set up through the major declaration disaster he's got in place. he signed it friday. he also puts pressure on congress to appropriate the right amount of money to complete the rebuild of this extremely devastating disaster. >> you are on the ground in hurricane andrew and i'm not sure what your expertise is on hurricane katrina but we know katrina was the new model. andrew really changed the mold. how do we get people to make sure they are not bleeding the system. this can take years and years of
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recovery. >> i think the first thing that we need to do is make sure, and there's been a significant amount of efforts in place not just then frivolous money. congress traditionally grants a disaster relief fund. supplemental emergency appropriations. in hurricane andrew and all the way through today, most if not all have been granted. i believe congress will continue to do the right thing on a bipartisan basis to make sure the public assistance and individual assistance over the next four to five years gets in place. we have to build a critical infrastructure. electric, gas, water, sewer, transfer -- transportation infrastructure. >> and it's amazing to me because i think, people talk and
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say it's not going to be as bad as katrina because katrina was below sea level. the water here, it will go away. it's above sea level. do you share that assessment? >> i think it's going to be more extensive than katrina. the critical infrastructure that houston relies on as the fourth largest city in the country is more expansive than new orleans. second, when water comes down, i think you're going to see major bridge damage. third, the communications grade and refinery capacity and ports has more expenses. it's going to be a larger disaster than hurricane katrina. >> thomas panuzio, thank you. center is nearing capacity. as more and more people are forced from their homes,
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