scene. burning bucket bag with wires hanging out of it. witnesses say it fireball down the carriage. we will bring you more information as it becomes available throughout the day. "fox & friends" starts now. bye-bye. brian: here we go and we wish why didn't have to start this way. a terror attack in london. explosion subway at the height of rush hour. abby: at least 20 people now are hurt. steve: our correspondent amy is live in london with the breaking details it happened 8:20 a.m. london time, right? >> that's right. peak of rush hour, steve, on a train which was part of the underground network. however, it was above ground when this explosion occurred. parts of the screen that's just west of chelsea, which is a neighborhood many of you will know. all focused right now is on this white plastic bucket in

the corner of the train car. a lot of eyewitnesses said they saw a bag, they saw a bang and then flames. and this bucket had some wires protruding from it. and it was in an insulated, sort of a thunderstorm mall bag from a store called little. the focus right now is on that. however, police are saying very little. it was only just about half an hour ago when they declared this a terrorist incident and confirmed that there were injuries. now, as to the nature of the injuries, that's what police and obviously medics are trying to ascertain right now. eyewitness reports have spoken of facial burns from the fire that followed explosion and also a lot of injuries when people stampeded out of the station. again, the train at parsons green and the explosion occurred as it was pulling in to the station is above ground portion of the underground train's journey. so people had to go downstairs to get onto the street. the area, obviously, has been completely cordoned off, which led to a lot of speculation that there might

have been another device or some search for the suspect going on. but police have tried to tamp down those fears. they have, however, asked people not to go anywhere near the area. again, this is a busy time of day. obviously it's rush hour. we don't understanding if there have been any other destructions to transportation in the city. but, of course, it's a city and country quite frankly on edge having suffered a number of terrorist attacks over the past year. so many of them now having to do with vehicles barreling into crowds and stabbings. but this was an explosion. and it is not clear exactly how it all went off. but, and it may have been somewhat failed explosion. it could have been worse potentially. but there have been injuries. so, clearly, it is something that has been very serious and the last time we had explosions. steve: right. >> on the transportation system in london was back in 2005 when there were three

coordinated bomb blasts on subway cars and then one on a bus leaving 52 people killed. today we are not hearing of any of fatalities but, again, early hours. steve: amy, of course that was the 7/7 attack. london and britain has been on high alert. described as severe, an attack likely. they have already declared this a terrorist incident. let's talk a little bit about the bucket though. according to eyewitnesses there. apparently it was like a builder's bucket like you see a lot of construction guys carry a builder's bucket. it's a home depot bucket. it was white in color. and eyewitnesses say they saw a flash, heard a bang and when they looked at it, amy, apparently there were wires sticking out of it. >> yeah. see, these pictures have been circulating on social media. it's important to point out. yes. very dramatically wires sticking out of the bucket and. so pictures of the bucket have shown flames. we know there was a fire after the explosion, so that clearly now is the focus. the materials that were used

was it similar to anything that's been used in the past? was it somewhat of a dud because was it meant to have gone off in a much more spectacular way? we don't know right now. but that will be the focus of the investigation. that white bucket. some eyewitnesses have said it looked like a mayonnaise bucket but more commonly people are describing it as a builder's bucket. if it weren't for the wires sticking out of it, it might not have aroused any suspicion on a train at rush hour when there are lots of builders in this city and people going to jobs at that time of day. brian: of course we are talking about the explosion that took place at parsons green tube station and the daily express is reporting that police are now -- you know, are trying to diffuse another bomb in the same station, which is currently being denied by scotland yard at this hour overall

alleges you look at this, ames, can you describe how the mood in london changed over the last year since these series of bombings? >> well, londoners, as you know, are very stoic and there is this expression keep calm and carry on which comes from world war ii. people have always been quick to say we're not going to let terrorism impinge on our lifestyle. i will tell you, and this is just antidotal from the people i know and have spoken, to there has been an erosion in that veneer of calm over the last year when there have been so many attacks. that's not just -- i must say because i tend to be in italy most of the time now where i live, a lot of that across the continent. we have paris and brussels and all of europe. brian: spain. >> bracing, always it seems, for the next one, brian. abby: amy, we know in europe trains are incredibly popular way of travel.

it's 11:0:00 a.m. london time. reports of 20 people injured. some suffering facial burns. i imagine just people running over each other once this explosion happens, trying to get out of that train. how many people would be on the train at this hour of the morning? >> well, it would have been packet. i haven't seen estimates of numbers. but the london underground is the oldest underground in the world. the trains are quite frankly very low and very tight. at rush her people are crushed up against each other typically on most of the lines. i think one of the issues that people are talking about across europe now is that if somebody wants to go into a subway at rush hour, if they want to take a vehicle and plow it into crowds, there is very little preventative action that can be taken other than vigilance and anti-terror operations ongoing. you cannot scan every person who goes into a train and you cannot stop them from renting cars. the one thing i will say

about london, for what it is famous is this incredible dense network of cctv. quite often police are able to pick up the suspect on a grainy image and clearly that's what they will be working on simultaneously as we speak. brian: the quote too is people are badly burned. their hair is coming off. if you are around there and got hit by that fire, that's your reaction, let alone the trampling as people scramble to get out. also reports of a huge police presence in the area. amy kellogg, thanks so much. steve: in the wake of what has happened and if you are just waking up, that was a constructer builder's bucket that just a couple of hours ago on the tube in london exploded there was a flash and bang and wires sticking out of it. we understand the prime minister of engaged tries is a may will chair a member of the cobra committee to discuss what is going on here. keep in mind britain has

been at high alert, which is the designation of severe, which means an attack is likely. joining us right now on the phone we have jim hanson the president of security studies, served in the u.s. army special forces and conducted counter terrorism operations. jim, as you look at what happened on the tube in london, your thoughts this morning? >> i think this shows just how easy it is for our financial to attack. i mean, they can take common materials. they can take household items, and turn them into death. in this case, fortunately, just destruction. previously if you are driving vehicles through people, if you are taking trucks, taking things that we have no way to stop, then we have to consider whether our focus should be on preventing these particular modalities of committing terrorism or finding the terrorists before they can conduct this kind of attack and focusing more on the human side.

abby: how hard is that to do, jim? you talk about the importance of finding them before it happens. in many of these cases they are lone wolf terrorists, they integrate themselves into these communities. europe has struggled for years now with this problem. what more can we do to find these terrorists before we see these attacks? >> you know, my fear, again, is we're going to find out this is someone who was known to police. and i just did quotes around known to police. they have lists. they have names of people. they know where people are being radicalized. they know which mosques are preaching hate and which neighborhoods. many cases they sadly know which people are most likely to commit these. but the problem is, even though britain has, you know, prevented detention. they actually have the ability to arrest people before they commit a terrorist act if he this decide they have reap to believe. it's a difficult to decide to do that. think have to

do more human intelligence in the communities where the terrorists are and try to find these people in the planning stage because we always want to be left boom in this case. brian: jim, i take the subway every day. a lot of times take it at 42nd street. i would say once every two weeks it's like going through an airport. they will be setting up stack tables and there will be cops and there looking to see what you have in your hand. in that case, we had our people would have stopped somebody with a bucket with wires. are we going to get to the point use the subway we're going to have to feel like we're going through the tsa? >> that's a horrifying thought. are we going to try to protect every place where people are vulnerable? are we going to decide that we're not just a police state in some sort, but a surveillance state where everybody is checked at every point to see what is -- you know, what

potential danger they can be doing to the rest of the public. brian: if i hired to you secure my subway, you might want to do that because your job is to keep us safe, not to get us in and out quickly. >> and in the end, that's a stipulation we will all be making. because none of us want to be in a position where an our daily commute in our daily lives, we are open to the possibility of someone conducting that kind of attack. steve: right. >> i would like to think we can do it better from a human angle. brian: yep. >> we have to consider all of those as well. steve: jim hanson thank you for joining us. commenting on the terror attack that happened rush hour. the mayor has called for calm fog the parsons green terrorist incident. london will never be intimidated. right now britain is hunting for the bucket bomber. brian: rolling back those surveillance cameras and i'm

sure they have an idea where they are going. there is one report out there that they're trying to diffuse a second explosive device at this hour. abby: this is what we have heard from terror groups that this is going to be the new wave of attacks, going to the subways, to the trains. places that you said, brian, that aren't nearly as protected. especially during rush hour. this could be the beginning. steve: so easy. abby: a bunch of headlines to bring you this morning starting with a fox news alert. a threat from north korea. the rogue regime launches a second missile over japan overnight. [siren] abby: the launch forcing millions to take cover. it traveled for man 2300 miles before landing in the pacific. south korea launched its own missile drills. defense secretary jim mattis slammed north korea's latest launch calling it wreckless. and a special ops soldier is killed and seven others hurt

during explosion training in fort bragg. the fallen soldier identified as staff sergeant alexander delitta. he was serving his country proudly and happiest he has ever been. that's heart breaking. comes just two days after sean dei have died after helicopter training in fort hood. fighting for isis in syria, not clear when or where that surrender took place, but some reports say it all went down in northern syria. the unidentified man is not the first american to be captured fighting for the terror group. more than 100 americans have been charged with helping or trying to help isis. and harvard is now rescinding chelsea manning's visiting calling it a mistake after major backlash one of the biggest leakers of all time. comes hours after michael morell resigned from his post over that move. mike pompeo pulled out of a

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♪ brian: a fox news alert now. this is what we woke up to today. a terror attack on london subway. eli lake a columnist for bloomberg view. i want to change the topic because you also have great insight into what is happening with terror in the west. london again, a victim it looks as though. a lot of people are focused on a bucket with wires coming out of it there is at least one report that they are diffusing at this hour a second bomb. what are your thoughts. >> all right. so very quickly what i would say is that it is a tragedy. it's horrible. we always have to be vigilant. one of the reasons that you are seeing lashing out right now from the islamic state if it indeed turns out to be the islamic state which it looks like this has the hallmarks of is because in the last nine months we have seen an extraordinary effort on the part of america and most importantly on the.

kurds in syria. iraqi hammer. peshmerga and others against isis and they have -- they are now watching their alleged caliphate completely collapse under the force of the arms of the civilized world. i think that's a very good thing even though in this dangerous period we're going to see more terrorist attacks. brian: can someone tell scotland yard? because then they will have to be four times as vigilant. we get the same process, eli, oh, yeah, there was an explosion. we were watching these guys. we had them on the radar. so that is what has really got the people of london and i imagine the people of europe really on edge, and really short tempered. >> the europeans and bricker in particular, the u.k. in particular take a very different approach than the u.s. does. what the u.s. does is infiltrates domestic terror organizations and ultimately prosecutes them and puts them in jail. what the u.k. likes to do is basically monitor a wider

group and what and sometimes have you situations where people are being monitored and then they end up committing attacks before they can be prevented. you know, i would say that i'm more comfortable with the american system in part because it's more respectful of civil liberties whereas in the united kingdom. there are programs to encourage people if they see what they consider to be warning signs to sort of intervene on this path of radicalization, who defines radicalization? i mean, we should be very careful in the respect that it's clear when it's -- you know, when it's barbarians like isis. not clear when people start defining it in a different way. brian: eli, i have got to have you back. did you great work on this susan rice. >> thank you. brian: unmasking what she finally admitted to. we are responding to the other breaking news thai attack in london where at least 20 will injured. thank you very much. >> thank you. brian: proof that freedom of speech ♪ free as u.k. berkeley left with chaos as light at

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abby: free speech sunday fire attic berkeley as protesters swarm the california campus to protest conservative speaker ben shapiro. spending $600,000 for security on the event as hundreds of demonstrators faced off with police. you can see there. brian: yep. so is free speech even free anymore? here to weigh in is fox news contributor tomi lahren. tommy tomi, what are your thoughts because you have a very similar tact and text as ben shapiro. do you fear speaking in a situation that hostile? >> you know, i specially

don't fear it, but it's amazing. i'm a millennial. i look at my fellow millennials, those on college campuses right now. i see them actively protesting for fewer rights. they want less free speech. let that sink. in that's the problem. that's the culture on college campuses right now. and they really need to change this because i don't think they realize how damaging they are to themselves and to the future on college campus, really. steve: sure. apparently at least nine people were arrested. they -- the wrrst wound up spending $600,000, tomi, to build a wall so trouble wouldn't happen. and apparently one of the people arrested was a 20-year-old who was arrested for battery on a police officer and carrying banned weapon. so, you know, you always turn this arranged. if this were at a right leaning protest, a headline like that would be in that big of type in the "new york times." >> well, of course it would. let's talk about the mainstream media since you brought it up. the mainstream media reinforces this -- this idea

that these folks are martyrs when they go and protest conservative speakers. they empower them and make them feel like they are social justifiable warriors. and so when they do these things they don't think that they are wrong and violent. they think they are doing something apostolic. they think they are doing their duty. that is the problem. these young people they think they are heroes because they are doing. this it's sick. abby: we hear so much about antifa, tomi. you see this violence in the last few months. >> i would really hope that the left would speak up. i would hope those representatives, those democrats out there that call themselves reasonable. i would hope they would stand up and say this is ridiculous. some have, i give them credit. i wish they were more vocal about it think how often president trump and conservatives are asked to call out white supremacists. the left feel no responsible to call out this and condemn

this? it's disgusting. abby: they are clearly against free speech. what do they stand for? >> i personally have no idea. they call themselves anti-fascists. if you look at their actions and what they're doing, i don't think in any way resembles antifascism. to me it's thuggery. they should be called thugs. that's exactly what they're. they think they are doing some kind of a service. really it's for attention. and, again, the mainstream media applauds it and mainstream media treats them like social justifiable warriors there have you have it. they think they are some kind of a noble warrior out there on college campuses. steve: we had ben shapiro on this program yesterday. he said ultimately the reason there were protests was because he was a conservative. tomi thank you for getting up so early. steve: welcome to the "fox & friends" family. abby: official here. steve: a contributor. brian: meanwhile her alarm clock went off at 2:00 in

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green. images from the scene show a burning plastic bucket stashed in a carrier bag with wires hanging out. steve: witnesses say it exploded suddenly, sending a fireball down the subway car. the london ambulance service says about 1 people are in the hospital right now. none of them with serious injuries. witnesses say several passengers were left is with severe burns to their legs and faces while others were hurt after getting caught in the massive stand peed out crush sort of injuries. right now let's bring in james mitchell he, of course, wrote the book on interrogating terrorists. he was also and a lot of people don't remember, this bomb technician for the u.s. air force. he joins us right now on the line. jim, as you look at this white bucket from this subway car in london. we heard that there was a flash. there was a bang. when you look at it though, you can see there is a white bucket. it appears to be wrapped in a plastic bag.

maybe a thermal bag which is on fire. what could this possibly be? >> >> i'm sure what they are doing is diffusing and construction of the bucket. the bomb tech could be any number of things be interested in looking at. is this a dry run or some sort of dispersion device for chemical attack later on? is this some kind of differs to pull the police to that area where you can harm them with a second device in the area there? really what you want to do is first responders. or is this a distraction to get them on that side of town so you can do something more nefarious like stab a bunch of people on different side of town. brian: we looking at your expertise and pattern. we look in britain there was a terror attack in a car and a guy with a knife slammed into people right near parliament in march. a suicide bomber in man chester in may. abandon knife attack in

london. that happened in june. and a van attack, again, two attacks in june. what's going on with london. >> i think they are paying the price of immigration policy. either deliberately or inadvertently, they have allowed these hot beds of radical islamic ideology be created. and now they are paying the price. this is a problem that we can't address in the immediate future. this is a problem that's going to take decades to fix. the first part of fixing the problem is to stop the influx of this radical ideology so that 20 years from now we are not fighting the children who have r. being indoctrinated now. abby: you always hear, this when you see something you say something, jim. you see this construction bucket in the back of the train. i mean, if you were to walk on, going to work, you would probably think maybe they are doing construction on the train there. you know, maybe it's not worth saying something. what advice do you have this is the new normal we live in

and not a lot of security on these subways and these trains. what should people pay close attention to that might seem unusual? >> well, my impression. i just saw a brief picture of it on fox news. my impression it was in some sort of a thermal bag probably didn't look like a 5-gallon paint bucket before people saw it. it probably looked like somebody bring bringing home their groceries. steve: what does it say about the bomber? this was not a suicide bomber. not like he had it strapped to his chest. he just put it down there. probably walked off the car. it exploded. so what does that tell you about the particular person who left that there? >> well, you have got to remember that the idea here is to target the minds of the people, to target the minds of citizens in london so that they will be so frightened they will allow thratcheting up of

self-imposed cherie a they want to convert england, united kingdom to an islamic state. and the way to do that is to scare people so badly that they won't oppose the little changes when i get enough little changes you get big changes. what khalid sheikh mohammed said to me these kind of attacks in 2004 and 2005. people are very afraid of fire. nobody wants to burn to death. and these kind of subway or tube attacks where flames are involved. without having actually set off a bomb that did very much actual carnage in terms of killing people. they have sowed seeds of fear for future fire bombs on subways. brian: you know the mind set of the muslim terrorists. they have a muslim mayor. can he be empowered to do something that may be a catholic, protestant or

jewish mayor couldn't? key possibly get through to the islamic communities better than someone else? >> it really depends on the level of radicalization. if they are hard core, hab wrist that mayor is an apostate. it would be worse to listen to him than it would be to listen to a straight up question. odierno, if they are westernized and sitting on the fence and they are feeling like, you know, the christians don't standard this, or the jews don't understand us or the atheists don't understand us. maybe they would be better. for a guy like khalid sheikh mohammed the london mayor is an apostate who should be killed. brian: we don't know if a did this. steve: we know it has been declared terrorist incident but nobody has taken credit for it. go ahead. >> early in the day no.

reason to suspect -- for all we know it could be some sort of sprims group or supremar nationalist group. brian: you got it. steve: north korea fired another missile over the country of japan and it went more than 2300 miles. this is a fox news alert before the missile landed in the pacific. that show of military force proving the island guam is now within striking distance of north korea. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot joins us live from seoul, south korea with the very latest. greg? >> hey, folks. we have been here two weeks and yet again north korea acting up with most successful test yet of a brand new and dangerous intermediate ranged ballistic missile. we saw that missile firsthand back in april when we were in pyongyang. we were watching a military parade there in fact, it was launched from a site near pyongyang.

flew 200 miles. that's the longest north korea has ever sent a ballistic missile. and if it was pointed towards guam, which it wasn't, it could have hit the island. south korea, well it was monitoring the movement of what was happening there in north korea. and six minutes after the north korean blast, it sent off its own missiles, not in the direction of north korea, out to sea. but certainly a show of force from south korea. now, while u.s. authorities say that american interests were not challenged by this latest launch, the japanese were shaken up. remember this missile wept over the northern most island of japan early morning local time there were loud speakers, sirens telling people to go to shelters. well, this is the second time in about a month this has happened. they are getting a little bit relaxed about it now. the actions of the kim jong u.n. regime branded as provocative as a threat. this was, in fact, the first actual offensive action by north korea since those tougher u.n. security

council resolutions voted on back on monday and since that nuclear test about two weeks ago. back to you guys. brian: thanks greg palkot. at one point take that rocket out of the sky or blow it up on the tarmac. we knew it was lined up. before we take that shot. that will change. steve: if you are sitting in tokyo you are wondering what the heck is going on there goes another one. abby: we have to build up our defense system as well. steve: all about negotiation. let's see what happens. still on our friday telecast herman cain and sean spicer will be joining us. education secretary betsy device and it's a friday that means it's geraldo day. abby: it is a big day. todd piro is talking to voters in pennsylvania. todd, how is it going there? will. todd: good morning, obviously the focus is on the london attack and the focus here is are we safe in america? what is president trump doing to keep us safe? is enough being done? we are talking to voters in

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email just released showing fresh examples of pay to play while she was secretary of state. judicial watch now obtaining 1600 new documents many instances of clinton donors asking and receiving favors from the state department. this as the fbi changes course by announcing releasing more documents over the hillary clinton email investigation. also this, espn denies trying to kick jemele hill off the air for calling the president a white supremacist. wanted to replace her but co-host refused to go on without her. the network never asked any other anchors to do that show. hill has not apologized to the president. espn has condemned her comments but still she has

her job. steve: all right. meanwhile, it's a quarter before the top of the hour. it is 6:45 out in altoona, pennsylvania. abby: that's where we find todd piro at the diner. todd: concern is what happened in london. what happened in london could happen in the u.s. we are talk about immigration, daca, travel ban. things of that nature. we will start off with debra. debra voted for the president. you said you would like a stricter immigration policy. why? >> i do. because i think it's been so lax that it has gone crazy. and there is people in our country that we don't know, that are a threat to our safety and our security. because if you don't know who is among you, you don't know what attack may happen. todd: you had an interesting take, interesting phraseology. you said the policy of the trump administration looks harsh but it is necessary. why? >> because it has been so

lax. and so whenever you have something that's lax and then you place structure back in to order and it becomes a policy. it looks harsh. so whenever something is very lax and you put a policy into place it now looks harsh. todd: debra, thank you for your time. mike, you say you are a big fan of the president. you voted for him. and you like the fact he is trying to secure our borders. why? >> sure. just to reiterate what debra said, americans just want to be safe, feel safe. and that's pretty much still is. todd: but to add on to that did you tell me when we were speaking earlier in light of what happened over the course of the last two weeks, a little bit more bipartisan approach in congress with the president. you said you like that. you want to get things done. >> sure, absolutely. we all want to play ball and accomplish some things. so let's put the bickering aside and, you know many focus and concern should be for the american people.

todd: i want to go to fred. fred also a trump voter who told me we need to do immigration the right way first, what do you mean by that? >> well, my parents are from italy. i'm a first generation american. italian american and they did it the right way. they came into this country. they became citizens. they were vetted. you know, we had a foittle vet them. they all came through ellis island. you know, we don't do that today. we just let people in. it's not so much here as it is in europe. europe is worse than here. europe is suffering now. with the good comes the bad. they let the bad in as well as the good. todd: in light of what you just said in europe and in light of what happened this morning, this afternoon london time, does it make you worried? >> always worried. i look everywhere i go. i luke around and make sure there is not people that look like they might be casing the place. looking for an opportunity to kill people. you know, that's what these folks do. they kill people.

stood. todd: understood. fred, mike and debra, thank you very much for your time. i will toss it back to new york i know it's a very busy news day with what happened in london. we he will talk more with here. brian: check back with you in a while at the diner. the president of the united states the terror attack in london as we effort to find out if there is, indeed, a second bomb. and to find out hot perpetrator or perpetrators were. steve: just about four minutes ago the president tweeted another attack in london by a loser terrorist. these are sick and demented people who were in the sights of scotland yard. must be proactive. brian: we did not know they were somebody on the target list with scotland yard. steve: i don't know if we know that right now. also did tweet out stuff about the filibuster. we will talk about that more in a little bit. abby: there is a lot going on this morning. steve: no kidding. we are following that breaking news out of london. explosion on a packed train at rain shower.

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brian: he is known for the splitting the fans in half. competing on the celebrity apprentice. he spent 2016 helping president trump in florida. for example. >> by the way behind meet great johnny damon, the curls of the yankees but ultimately he helped the yankees. johnny damon. stand up. [cheers]

steve: so what does he have in store next? two time world series champion and you remember baseball all star jamie damon was on the celebrity apprentice. while he supported the president, donald trump fired you. >> i didn't do my job. so if you don't do your job the correct way, you should be fired. we all were. so she deserved to win. brian: don't tell that to herald. he lost the lead toe begin bon. >> i think he would agree with me. steve: i don't think so. abby: you campaigned for president trump. how do you think is he doing? >> i think is he doing well. i just hope he can get agendas going. he wants to cut deals. but, unfortunately. we have a lot of people against him against him for the wrong reason. i know him personally, i know he is a great -- somebody who said some highly critical things about

the president is jemele hill who is a sportscaster does the 6:00 spot at espn. earlier on a tweet this week referred to the president as a white supremacists. people were wondering what espn would do. apparently they talked to her and she apologized to them and said she felt bad that they put them in a bad light. >> well, that's good that she owned up to it. i want to watch sports for sports. abby: thank you. >> when you mix politics with sports it gets touchy. like mtvv. used to be music television. now there is no music being played on tuvment if espn turns into a political arena, i know a lot of people will just won't watch. brian: a lot of the things going on in the nfl right now. i know you are a football fan and they're having attendance dip. still a monster but dipping. they did a poll in the "the washington post" why is that? 17% of the people surveyed said it's because of the protest when it comes to the

national anthem. which i personally have a huge problem with. >> i do, too. i also think guys have their right to express themselves in the right light. like i think michael bennet carries himself very well and the unfortunate thing that happened to him in las vegas, we all can learn from. you know, instead of taking this negative, the reason why it didn't escalate was because he was able to remain calm. and that's what we need to tell everybody. brian: he was detained by cops after the fight in las vegas. michael bennet is on the seattle seahawks. he and his brother choose to protest during the national anthem. >> yes. they have that right. i left of center think michael bennet can also make very good and in a lot of communities. not just black, white, hispanic. >> playstation and v sports,

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steve: this is a fox news alert. it is 7:00 here in new york city. it is 12 noon in london. there is a massive manhunt in london right now after a bomb exploded on a packed subway car at the height of rairush hour. brian: so far 18 people are in the hospital listed with serious burns. abby: amy kellogg joins us live on the phone as she scene at the train station. what more do you know at this hour? >> hi, abby. well, hundreds of detectives, we know for sure now, are on this going through footage and conducting an investigation along several different

lines. the metropolitan police saying that the device did not fully detonate. that is that improvised explosive device or bomb that went off in the subway, trending this morning. eyewitnesses have reported a bag, a bang, and then flames. 18 people were taken to the hospital. the deputy assistant police commissioner here has just said that most of those were suffering from flash burns and injuries are not life threatening. the explosion took place at the district line train pulling into parsons green station. it is in upscale part of london. lots of families live there and lots of schools in the area. quite likely there were lots of children on that train. the focus of the investigation is on a white builder's bucket in a white insulated plastic bag. wires come out of it and flames came out of it after the explosion. leading this investigation and the deputy commissioner of counter terrorism was asking the public just now to be vigilant, alert but

not alarmed. abby, steve, and brian. brian: wow, i guess we have heard that way too much from -- instructions for the people of england and, of course, the city of london. abby: quickly are the train stations on lockdown now? what have you heard about that? abby: just parts of the district line as far as we are away. the area is cordoned off. a lot of people have had trouble getting back into their homes ther there. there has been no indication there is anything in that immediate area that's causing concern. probably just police have to conduct their investigation. and important to point out the people in that neighborhood are really quite shocked because it is a very peaceful neighborhood. quiet, and not the place where you are expect this sort of thing to happen. steve: amy, we thank you very much. in london the assistant commissioner mark raulie said the explosion was caused by detonation of improvised explosive device. meanwhile, the president of the united states has sent out two tweets this morning. one said another attack in london by a loser terrorist.

these are sick and demented people in the sights of scotland yard, must be proactive. then tweeted loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher manner, the internet is their main recruitment tool which we must cut off and use better. no indication of scotland yard in that one. >> brian: we are following whether there is a second device or not and whether they are trying to diffuse it at this hour. abby: the third tweet says the travel ban in to the united states should be larger, tougher and more specific. stupidly that would not be politically correct. brian: he went on to say this: on isis we have made more progress in the last nine months against isis than the obama administration has made in 8 years. must be proactive. and nasty. steve: all right. let's bring in jim hanson once again. he joins us an hour ago. he is the securities study served in the u.s. army special forces conducted

counter terrorism. jim, what do you make of this? apparently people who were at the scene smelled chemicals after it exploded. it was some sort of a bomb or an ied in a bucket. a builder's bucket. >> yeah, unfortunately that is far too easy to do. the sad thing is if he had simply brought five gallons of gasoline on to that subway train and detonated that and threat on fire. the fire from that would have killed more people than the fancier device they planned to use. it's important not to feature the method as opposed to the person conducting the attack we can't stop people from wanting to kill other people. kaine killed able with a rock. it's not the med it's the people. that's what we need focus on. abby: you look at this bucket it looks like construction bucket but was covered like maybe a grocery bag or something.

you wouldn't look twice if you paced that on the train. people that are building these bombs inside their homes, jim, is that impossible to try to catch before it happens? >> i think in many ways it's impossible if you are focusing on the materials. now, there are some things bomb making materials and imodium nitrate and/or large bomb components that we should watch for people to buy. but the simple things like, this like renting a white van. like creating some sort of a fireball, you are never going to be able to stop that i really liked what president trump said when he said we need to be touch and more nasty about doing. this his travel ban walls a good start. there are certain people with ideologies who do not belong in in the west in free countries, and he has made a good started with the travel ban. now we have to figure out what to do with the second generation of immigrants who are being radical lied and that seems stop where a lot of the bombers are coming from and the knifers and truck drifertion.

brian: one of the biggest surprises for me after talking to these people on this show in particular all these years since 9/11 has been the fact that you are not only stopping al qaeda, located training and afghanistan and pakistan. but the islamic population inside western society. but not the parents. the kids. so they see the west. they see the schooling, and they say i would rather be a radical terrorist than be a member of western society. that has caught me by surprise and i imagine it has most of europe flat footed. >> and that's a huge difficulty. the greatest ally we have in that is the muslim community. because they know these people. they are coming out of muslim community and most decent muslims are horrified by this. the tribal and honor culture does not want it reported a lot of times because it brings shame on the community. one thing that was said previously the mayor of london is i deek khan said

that terrorist incidents like this are part and parcel of living in a big city. in my mind that is dereliction of duty. i question whether is he actually working hard enough to keep his city safe. he needs to talk to the muslim community, tell them that, yes, you have been helping. but you obviously need to help more because these people are living amongst you, wolves in sheep's clothing. and you're the ones who can point them out before an incident like this happens. not afterwards. steve: well, the london police are characterizing it as a terrorist incident. we don't know yet hot bomber was. but we do know, jim, it was not a suicide bomber. i mean, it used to be, for instance, back in the 7/7 days in london when over 50 people were murdered on terrorist strikes on the tube, those people were out to martyr themselves. whoever did this today just dropped it off in hopes of, perhaps, bombing another day. >> yeah. and that's a little scarier. although in this case it may have been to the advantage on the people in the tube.

if they had been a suicide bomber, potentially he may have been able to work the device better and been capable of killing more people. a gutless terrorist and as the president called them, he said they are losers. this guy wasn't even willing to die for his cause. so i think that's something to keep in mind that at this point they may be even getting less radicalized people to conduct these kinds of attacks. that's a bit horrifying. abby: there are still reports out there that we can't necessarily confirm all of them. but there was potentially another bomb being put out. sky news is reporting that there is a man on the loose. we don't have any more information. steve: hunt for the bomber. abby: what they are looking for or if this man is in custody. how common is it for an explosion like this to be a distraction for the terrorists to go off and try to kill other people? >> that's kind of a worse case scenario is if you have got someone who understands few something like this and generate a large emergency response in one area, then you have taken, you know, the security forces away

from other places and you would be able to do a follow-on attack or even worse you can do an attack on the emergency responders as they come to this. that's always the scenario these people concern themselves with we are hoping it's not and we hope they can -- the nice thing about london they have all the security cameras. they should be able to track this guy and pick him up. brian: jim, i know it doesn't pay in your business to act emotionally. but the president's tweets reflect a lot how the people feel on the ground. they feel as though their security system, their investigators, and their government is not protecting them. and when their leaders don't reflect the urgency and horror that they're experiencing, let alone if their face got burned today or as one report had their hair got burned off, one of the injured is a young boy we understand. i sense that there is a detachment between those inflicted, those in the library of fire and those being paid to protect. >> i was heartened to hear

president trump sound angry about this. we should be outraged. we should be angry. these people are killing innocent people. they killed children at an ariana grande concert. every day they are trying to find a way to kill innocent members of decent society. and we need to shun them. we need to track them down. we need to use every aspect of government power to find these people. pick them um and throw them in the deepest, darkest hole we can before they can kill our children. that's the attitude i want. not as you said detached clinical oh, we will do what we can i want angry people taking care of terrorists. abby: as you said the president pointed out we need to get nastier. there is no one that we know of that has been killed in this attack. at least 20 people injured. some of them suffering facial burns. we will see this play out as the morning goes on. so far no one has been killed. brian: may be disfigured forever. steve: jim, we thank you very much for joining us live right now. we will continue to monitor what is going on in london.

right now we have other headlines. abby: other headlines we are following closely this morning. starting with a fox news alert. aggressive threat from north korea rogue regime launches a second missile over japan. [siren] >> forces millions travel more than 2300 miles before splashing down in the pacific. in response, south korea launching its own missile drills. 70s secretary james mattis is slamming north korea's latest launch calling it reckless. and an investigation is underway after a louisiana state university freshman is killed in a possible hazing incident. 18-year-old max gruber died on thursday night after being rushed to the hospital from the fraternity house. the events leading up to his death still unclear. all greek activities at the university have now been suspended. an autopsy is scheduled for today. and president trump signing a resolution condemning

white supremacists following deadly violence in charlottesville, virginia last month. the commander in chief releasing a statement saying quote no, matter the color of our skin or our ethnic heritage we're all under the same laws and salute the same great flag and made by the same almighty god. woman killed in riots slammed into dozens of counter protesters. those are other headlines we are following this morning. continuing to follow the breaking news out of london. this big news. just heard about it. north korea putting the world on high alert with another missile launch. we are live on the ground in south korea. that's next. plus, sean spicer and geraldo. much more to come here on "fox & friends." stick with us. ♪ ♪ that cause symptoms. pills block one and 6 is greater than 1. flonase changes everything.

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>> well, here we go again, guys. yeah, track being yet another provocation coming from the regime of kim jong un and north korea. this is in fact the most successful launch yet of a brand new dangerous intermediate range missile that we first saw at military parade when we were in pyongyang in april. as you noted it flew 2300 miles from a launch site not far from pyongyang. it is the longest flight of a north korean ballistic missile yet. long enough to hit guam. the military u.s. military base, if it was going in that direction, luckily it was not south korea was monitoring the movements. they saw it coming six minutes after the north koreaible launch they shot off their own missiles. not to intercept the north korean missile. mostly it's a show of force into the sea of japan. now, while u.s. authorities were quick to say that no american interests were challenged, with this launch. some japanese were. again, this missile flew

over the northern japanese island and it came in early morning time, local time. there were sirens. there were loud speaker warnings to reach shelter. this is becoming normal for the japanese right now. finally the actions of the kim jong un regime branded as provocative and as threatening in a statement coming from secretary of state tillerson. this is, guys, the first offensive action by north korea since those stronger u.n. security council sanctions that came out early this week. the first offensive action since two weeks ago that very strong north korean nuclear device detonation. tough times here. back to you. abby: we will see how the white house responds to this. greg palkot. thanks, greg. brian: knock them out of the sky as it flies over. we have thed that system set up in japan. abby: it needs to be improved still. steve: they have to work the bugs out.

once somebody starts shooting. brian: we started in the 1980s, if we didn't stop for 10 years it would have been perfect. steve: massive search underway right now for the bomber who set off explosive inside a packed train. this morning the president is responding on twitter. and his former white house press secretary sean spicer is going to join us live for inside perspective. he is coming up next. ♪ ♪ [fbi agent] you're a brave man, mr. stevens. your testimony will save lives. mr. stevens? this is your new name. this is your new house. and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible. [hero] i'll take my chances.

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thankfully so far we have no reports much any deaths. there is reports one of the injured is a young boy. abby: some suffering facial burns. we are hearing there is a man on the loose. we don't have any more information on that. also, there was a timer that's now being reported from sky news. a timer that was on this bomb before it exploded so the question now is how long was that timer set for? how long was it sitting there? steve: exactly. the president of the united states just tweeted this out in the last hour loser terrorists must be dealt with in a tougher manner. main recruitment tool which we must cut off and use better. joining us now former white house press secretary, first time he has been on television on a tv news outfit since the month of july. hey, look, it's sean spicer. good morning to you, sean. >> good morning. good to be back. steve: it's great to have you as well. we have to ask you about the breaking news though out of london this morning. it looks like somebody put a bomb or they tried to scare

people people put device on london train. >> we have to remain vigilant this has become all too normal now. and i think that's a problem. i think we need to remind ourselves and pray for those who have been injured. but, remember, that that old tsa saying that has become so often if you see something, say something. abby: um-huh. >> has become even more apparent. terrorism is at our doorstep. we have got to make sure that we do everything we can to fight it. and i know the president is committed to doing everything he can. abby: sean, you served in the navy, you understand this well. we had jim hanson on earlier. he was really praising the president this morning for his tweet got to be nasty. that is so important. we are talking about. steve: the president sounded angry. abby: he sounded angry. he sounded emotional. he sounded the way he should sound in this moment. abby: what do you make of

the tweets we read this morning. >> he is right. we have got to remember people wake up every day determined to undermine our way of life. that they hate us. and we need to do everything that we can do to remain vigilant. to use the resources that we have at our disposal to protect our country, to protect the homeland. and to make sure that terrorism never sees our borders. brian: sean, the president of the united states prior to this bombing in the north korea launch, that becomes security issues. we talk about pure politics. something has changed since you left. and that is he is dealing with democrats. he had three democratic senators in two days ago. he had the so-called problem solving committee of the house, if they do solve any problems. i haven't seen them solve anything yes, sir. they did show up at the white house. there was about four democrats there. and then two meetings with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. was it reince priebus and maybe sean spicer that stopped this reaching across the aisle when you were there? because it seemed to have taken place after you left.

>> yeah. respectfully, i don't think i would be stopping the presidents from doing anything. is he pretty determined when he wants to do something. i don't think it's a news flash. this president is a dealmaker. he got things done. he made it very clear during the campaign that he was a ceo businessman that knew how to strike a good deal when he saw it and he is going to do what's in the best interest of this country when can he get a deal. i think washington needs to wake up and understand this is a guy who is going to make the best deal for the country when he can. and if that's when republicans, it's going to be with republicans. if it's with democrats it will be democrats. if it's bipartisan it, will be with them. shouldn't be surprised he will make the best deal possible at every turn. steve: right, but washington, d.c. apparently doesn't know what a deal is yesterday we were talking about how both chuck and nancy came out and said we have got a deal. we talked to the president last night. and there is not going to be a wall in this deal. and then the president came out yesterday and he said we will have the wall. if we don't have the wall,

we will do nothing. so, apparently they are talking they were negotiating informally but there is no deal yet. >> again, i think the president is going to strike the best deal possible. he has been very clear that he has a big heart. he understands the magnitude of this problem when it comes to immigration. but he also has made the wall a huge priority. so, like it or not, i don't see how you get a deal done that doesn't include the wall. because that's been a major priority of this president. so he is going to get the best deal he can he is going to negotiate. that's what he has always done. and i think at the end of the day is he going to make sure that his priorities are a part of any deal that gets made. abby: it's interesting. have you conservatives up in arms about this, sean, a lot of them praise the ronald reagan era and those times and what he was able to get done. you think about comprehensive tax reform the last time that happened was under reagan. how did he could that? he worked with tipp o'neal. have you got to cross the aisle to get big things done. how often we forget that when we talk about politics today. >> that's absolutely right. at the end of the day, look, he campaigned as a

businessman that knew how to get a good deal. i think that's how he is going to govern. brian: sean, a couple of things, bring us through the process of thousand goes. because it seems as though the communication war was won by schumer and pelosi who showed savvy, getting the word out on how the meeting went first. how important is it for the white house communication team to be the first out with to characterize the meeting or dare i say a joint statement? because it went from a positive reaching across the aisle to the president having to diffuse something throughout the day. well, again, i would worry less about what the first statement is out of the gate. than the end result. i think what you are see something democrats brought into the process. they bought into the president's agenda and goals. when you see what the final product is, i guarantee you it's going to be on donald trump's terms. steve: all right. some other breaking news we have got this morning. yesterday we told folks that chelsea manning was set to join harvard as a visiting fellow. you, as well.

with you there was firestorm over hers because, of course, she faced 35 years in prison because she was convicted for violating the espionage act and releasing thousands of national security documents to wikileaks. and then it started to hit the fan yesterday. mike pompeo said he wasn't going to speak there. mike more relevant steps down as senior fellow. congresswoman liz cheney called on the government to withhold federal funds. and at midnight, sean, harvard put out the word that apparently they had changed their mind. they had made a mistake and chelsea manning would not get the invitation to be a visiting fellow. >> that's correct. and i think they made the right decision. look, i'm no stranger to mistakes. i have asked for forgiveness and people have granted it to me. and i appreciate the fact that harvard has recognized that it was a mistake. they made the right ultimate decision that there is a need in this country to have a civil disz course have the

free expression of idea. that is what makes this country to so amazing. it's another to take another convicted of treason and invite them. we can have honest and open discussion about the ideas and policies of this country. at the end of the day, we are a nation of laws. and i appreciate the ultimate decision that harvard made. it's the right one. and i am honored to be part of the visiting fellow team. abby: how is life after the white house? we saw you on jimmy kimmel. this is the first time on newhouse program. how are things going? >> much more relaxed. it was honor to serve as press secretary to this president. and speak on behalf of the united states. it's an honor that very few have had. and i will cherish it for the rest of my life. the life since then has been very, very enjoyable and

relaxed. brian: 91% of the stories about this president was negative and that caused a lot of your heart burn, i imagine. >> that didn't help. steve: sean, the good news is now can you watch television on saturday nights. just saying. >> i appreciate that. i actually am looking forward to reengaging with my family and doing a lot of the things. watching television in general, never mind what night, will be something that i finally get to engage in again. abby: wishing you all the best. brian: hopefully it will be a regular thing. steve: come back. >> thank you. steve: thank you, sean spicer. meanwhile, back to our top story, it is 12:30 in london where police are investigating a terrorist attack after bomb rocked a train packed with passengers at rush hour. the latest on a live report coming up. brian: first for us, education secretary betsy devos joins us live as she wrapping up the national back-to-school tour. what does she want to change about what your kids are learning? ♪ ♪

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device according to sky news. get this, it had a timer and did not fully detonate. steve: we will be keeping you posted regarding what is going on in london as they look for the bucket bomber. in the meanwhile, let's switch to kansas city, kansas, i believe, where the secretary osecretary of educati. madam secretary, you are actually in kansas city, missouri. i should know better because i lived in that town. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. how are you? steve: i'm doing final. thank you. tell us about your rethinking school tour? >> we have had a great week thus far. this is day four of the re-think school tour. we have been traveling across the heart land of america, starting in wyoming, colorado, nebraska, kansas, missouri. today we'll go on to indiana. and we have been visiting schools that are really uniquely meeting the needs of the students they are

serving, focusing on creative and innovative approaches to meeting kids' needs in school. abby: i have got to tell you a lot of kids are being sent off to college for the first time leaving their homes and leaving their parents. we hear from a lot of them here on the show many of them concerned about not just saying bye for their kids for growing up for the first time but going off to school and coming home and thinking very differentably this world and about politics. saying schools have gone so far left. we even have reports of one teacher, at least that we did last week joining antifa for example. what is your message to parents out there that feel concerned about sending their kids off not knowing how they are going to come back? >> well, much of our focus and many of the schools we visited this week have been the k-12 schools. and i think broadly speaking, we need to make sure that students have the opportunity to be exposed to a wide range of ideas. and to be able to debate those ideas openly and

honestly and that begins already in their k-12 experience. but the bottom line is that parents ultimately really need to be empowered to choose the right schools and the right settings for their children. brian: yep. >> so that they can be confident of what they will be prepared for entering their adult life in higher education. brian: right. so if they don't like that school, and they -- yet they don't have the financial wherewithal to pay for primary school maybe there will be a vouch tore allow them the same opportunity that seems only fair. madam secretary, if you are successful in making an impact as secretary of education. what will our school systems look like in two years, in four year, in eight years? >> we ultimately believe that every single child is unique and different and every one of them deserves an equal opportunity to get a great education. steve: sure. >> we are talking this week about rethinking schools because the way that we have done school for over 100

years is essentially the same. and, yet, everything around us has changed. so the schools we visited this week are really approaching the needs of students differently. i think about the first school we visited in casper, wyoming, which was woods learning center. and it's actually teacher empowered the teachers run the school and the students are working on personalized learning plan. so they are moving ahead in their education at their own speed, mastering the materials and moving on. and i think there -- that is a really interesting model that a lot more schools should be taking a look at. because. brian: and that's public, right? that's a public school? >> it is. it is, indeed. brian: one of the things you want to do is empower these communities, inner cities in suburban, rural, whatever, to do their own thing? >> we want to empower -- we think that at the most local level, teachers and administrators should be empowered to make out changes that they know

instinctively that need to be made to really engage students and energize them in their learning. abby: also focus on the individual student, right? isn't that a big focus of yours? instead of clumping them all together like they're the same, every one is so very different in how they progress. >> so much of our curriculum has been focused on the average student and yet we know that no student is average. everyone is unique and different. that's why this whole personalized learning notion is very attractive and one that really should be studied closely by educators across the country. steve: ultimately, madam secretary, once you do the tour, are you going to present what have you 230u7bd on these innovative schools so that other schools across the country might be able to tap into some of those ideas and do them in their neck of the woods? >> we are going to continue to highlight all the different kinds of approaches to school that we have seen and that we are learning from. and share the best practices and share new ideas.

and i think that also to continue to research and be open to learning from those who are doing things differently. there -- again, they are across the heart land of this country there are really wonderful things happening. and so often they sort of get overlooked or forgotten. we need to refocus and we really need to open up our thinking to new ways of meeting students' needs. brian: teachers are often the mvps of families across america. we can always remember our teachers. >> absolutely. brian: i don't know what it is more than the first job or anything else. so they have a valuable job. and you see that betsy devos -- >> -- they sure do. brian: thanks so much. abby: good luck with all that you are doing. nothing more important. >> thank you for the opportunity to be here. brian: no problem. hope to see you again soon. 19 minutes before the top of the hour. we continue to follow the breaking news that we woke up today and hopefully you do, too. it happened in london, a

fiery explosion inside a packed train during rush hour, so-called tube. what we just learned about that device. now we are live on the scene in london. that's next. steve: president trump hitting the road pushing his tax reform plan. what does that mean for your wallet? we will talk to the man that came up with the 999 tax plan. herman cain in the house coming up. it's like nothing you've seen. the power of nexium 24hr protection from frequent heartburn. all day, and all night. now packed into a pill so small, we call it mini. new clearminis from nexium 24hr. see heartburn differently.

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22 people now are in the hospital with serious flash burns. brian: we are firin finding out more and more information as we go out to amy kellogg. she is live at the parsons green station in london. hi, angela. >> hi, i'm holding my ear. there is a very loud noise from the police helicopters that are circling this area. the subway stop where this bomb wept off this morning is just about a block and a half behind me. this area has been all cordoned off, of course, because police are conducting a manhunt, an investigation. they have recently confirmed that hundreds of detectives are on the scene. and i just spoke to a local councilman here who said that basically part of the reason there has been evacuations in the neighborhood is that the police throw into motion this, quote, gold standard investigative protocol when an incident like this happens in the aftermath. people are incredibly

nervous and rumors about something happening here. something sighted there. that's the reason they have this massive cordon had to evacuate a lot of residents in the neighborhood. people can't k. not get back into their homes. again that focus right now on the white builder's bucket with the wires out of it. reports that there were timer involved. and the bottom line is police are saying it's not properly detonated. in other words, it could have been much worse. but there are 22 people in hospital right now. primarily with flash burns. none of those injuries thought to be life-threatening. steve, brian, and abby. abby: could have been much worse than it was. thanks so much, amy. steve: amy kellogg in chaotic, london. president trump in florida yesterday sharing his plans for the tax code and helping the middle class. >> this is not to benefit the wealthy. this is to benefit the middle class and to benefit companies where they're going to be producing jobs. if you want to produce -- we

want to produce jobs in this country. brian: how important is tax reform? and what would it mean for the american people? let's ask the man that came up with the 999 plan. joining us now is fox news contributor, former presidential candidate, former ceo of godfather's pizza, herman cain. her man did, it bother that you he said i'm not looking to cut the taxes on the rich. they are the ones that would put the money into the system and hire other people. >> it didn't bother me at all. he said the priority would be tax cuts for the middle class. he fully understands with his proposal that he has put on the take, that businesses, they expand and create jobs. and the democrats are going to continue that same old class warfare, deceptive rhetoric and talk about what we don't want to give a tax cut to the rich. well, rich people create jobs. or haven't they gotten that memo yet? but it doesn't bother me. he is simply saying that the middle class and businesses will be the priority. steve: sure. but, of course, coming to

the table, her man, democrats have one idea about reforming the tax system, republicans have another. republicans do have a slight majority and could get things together if they were all together. they might be able to pass with a simple majority. but the president just in the last hour tweeted this out. with the ridiculous filibuster rule in the senate, republicans need 60 votes to pass legislation rather than 51. can't get votes ends now. so, obviously, he is appealing to mitch mcconnell once again to do something in the senate. >> i believe that mitch mcconnell, is worrying about the wrong thing. if there ever was a time to get rid of the filibuster in the eight years of the trump presidency, it is now there is nothing more critical than significant tax simple occasion, tax cuts --

if you are going to fire a bullet, now is the time to do it. with all of the other challenges that we have. we need to have more revenue coming into the treasury. we need to have businesses excited and expanded. that's why i agree with the president, you need to let the filibuster go in order to get significant tax cuts and simplification. abby: how do they keep more of their money. one thing if wall street is doing better because of tax reform. what about that middle class person, people that want to keep that money? how do they get that? steve: real quick. >> the president has already said he wants the highest tax rate for three brackets to be 25%. that's how you get more money into the pockets of the middle class. he already has it in his plan. brian: i just hope the presidents calls on you because you have a treasury background and he can definitely use a clear thinker like yourself with real business experience in the white house if you could afford the pay cut.

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steve: we have had such a busy morning with so much breaking news. let's pause now and take the pulse of america. abby: let's go out to todd piro at tom and joe's diner in luna, pennsylvania. steve: altoona. todd: altoona, yeah. we are having a great time. everybody is focused on the events in london and really wondering could that happen here in america? are we safe here in america? we're going to start off talking to the voters. we start off with nikki who did vote for entrepreneurship. you say you are a huge fan of the travel ban because anything we need to do to protect america we need to do. why? >> absolutely.

because we don't want to be like many other countries who have this common and deadly occurrence by terrorists in these attacks. we need our country to stay safe as possible and we need to do everything in our power to keep it that way. todd: nikki, thank you for your time. now we are going to go to don. is he a trump voter. he says london is a prime example of why open borders don't work. >> yes. they can travel anywhere they want without any restrictions. it's a good thing we have our first border. we need to keep our borders tight. todd: don, thank you very much. now we are going to go over here to bernie. as can you tell bernie? law enforcement, retired state trooper. thank you for your service, sir. you had a great line. you said here in america we are very safe but we are very vulnerable. why did you say that? >> because our constitution allows us to enjoy freedom. and our enemies are using those freedoms to attack us. and claiming constitutional rights. they are not citizens of our country. i think that we have to

reserve the rights of our constitutions for the protection of our citizens and people coming in to our country will have to adopt our constitution. todd: bernie, thank you very much for your time. that's the pulse here from altoona, pennsylvania. send it back to new york city. steve, abby, and brian. abby: got some good stuff. those are the voices that matter. thank you so much, todd. abby: a massive search is underway for the man who set off a bomb inside of a packed train. steve: coming up in the next hour. we will talk to geraldo rivera about it and james mitchell live. you are watching "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ and i'm still not ready. the reason i'm telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that...

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reports of an inflowings and at least one subway car. we just learned at least 22 people are in the hospital with so-called flash burns. >> live for us in london with breaking details. amy, good morning. steve: breaking news up there. abby: fox correspondent at large geraldo. >> good morning, abby. brian: too many stories like this, geraldo. >> to me, that is very telling, and i'll tell you why. as isis is eliminated as a physical entity, in other words, as the so-called islamic state is being eroded on all sides by the united

states and russia and iraq and syrian government forces and so forth, i think they're putting out the word over the internet, and that's what the president has indicated. over the internet to their sympathizers or hard-core warriors to do whatever they can. often, whatever they can is as in this case a hapless device that frightens more than it killed or injured. steve: we've got amy kellogg now, we apparently have reestablished audio portion of the program from london. amy, what's the very latest? >> well, also, steve, brian, and abby, i want to set the scene for you a little bit here. this is a very residential upscale neighborhood of london -- of west london. and a lot of chaos with the evacuations that have taken place because police are undergoing a massive manhunt. hundreds of detectives are

involved. i'm just about a block and a half from where the bomb went off this morning. police are saying it didn't successfully detonate, implying, in other words, it could have been worse. a homemade bomb with wires coming out of it. some people said that it looked like a tub of mayonnaise sitting in the corner of the subway car. of those 22 people hospitalized for the injuries, most are suffering from what have been described as flash burns. none of the injuries, according to police, are life-threatening, but there was also a massive stampede. people evacuated the train car. they had to go downstairs because of course it's within the underground network, so people were describing scenes of people tumbling down the stairs, little children holding onto the backs of people's coats. children used the subway to go to school in the morning and then people scratched. there's going to be an emergency meeting of cobra,

which is the prime minister's cabinet that will take place this afternoon, and there has also been, interestingly, no reaction from the police to president trump's tweet that this was another loser terrorist and someone who might have been in the sights or people who are in the sights with scotland. in the meantime, this is being a very intense investigation that includes both london transportation and the counter terror command. there are has been about 68% more terror arrests this year in the uk than there was last year. so police are active, and they're working. but apparently, it's not anything you can do in some of these cases where people will smuggle something onto a crowded rush hour subway or drive a van into a crowd of people. again, 22 people in the hospital. 8:20 this morning, a bomb impose off in a district line

subway. that line has been pretty much slowed down for business today. but the rest of this city is up and running as londoners are quite quick to go about their business and say they're not going to let this sort of thing get them down. steve, brian, and abby. steve: thank you very much. you're absolutely right. the tube, it's hard to secure. meanwhile, here in the new york city area and new york state, governor cuomo beefing up the security for the trains. also, the president of the united states sent out a tweet about an hour ago. he said loser terrorist must be dealt with in a much tougher manner. the internet is their main recruitment tool, and we must cut off and use better. >> well, the president's absolutely right. the problem is if you are a sympathizer, and you don't conspire with anyone, if you don't use text messages or. steve: you are just at home. >> you're just at home, and you're stewing about the west and about isis collapsing, you reach out, you go to the

internet, you figure out you use a little sulfur, a little charcoal, a little this and that, and you create your own war. your own jihad, and i'll get to heaven that way. or maybe if they're more secular or westernized, and they want to hit the man, what better way than a crowded subway with insistent victims? what better way to terrors? and i think that's what this will totally prove to be. the upside of london being attacked so often, however, is the fact that they have the best surveillance camera system anywhere. they will have -- there is a camera on every single corner, particularly in this particular neighborhood, upscale neighborhood. they will be able to, i feel, track down the assailant in this case. and i predict with great confidence it will be a sunni

muslim immigrant or a second generation from north africa, and it will be a repeat of the kind of sickening cycle we have seen. abby: we just don't know yet. we know it is a terror attack by london officials. but still, there is a manhunt going on. we don't know what group was behind this or if it was a lone wolf attack. but brian asked a great question -- b not to give you any kudos. brian: i had no idea. abby: it was one of the experts, and we don't have a lot of security when it comes to subways and trains. brian and i both take the subway every day. you don't have to go through tsa. brian: every once in a while they'll be setting up tables and look through this stuff, and i'll be thinking how did this happen? it will just be random. >> the ugly beauty of terrorism is its randomness and the softness of civilian

targets. you look outsides, you look out our window right now, every block there's a potential target. every block there's a headline because, of course, the spread to inflict terror, you have to get the word out that even you are vulnerable. your children going to school on the subway. you going on the regular, ordinary -- abby: to brian's point, do we want to go on trains that look like the tsa at the airport? do we want to change everything? >> with all respect to the officers at the tsa, i hate tsa. i have leg braces. by the time i get through security, they know who i am, i'm tsa prechecked, i'm clear, i'm everything the highest possible and yet they still give me the shake down. brian: i use my fingerprint. >> i do too. the device. oh, what's that cavity there. it's transmitting to the cia. brian: let's talk about immigration. it was a crazy day yesterday.

they had a meeting with the democrats which you encourage the president to have. but i think senator schumer and pelosi won the communication where they came out and said, yeah, we had a good conversation, we're going to work our way through daca, and we're going to do border security. not the wall. and the next thing you know, was playing defense throughout the day. what do you think he should learn from dealing with democrats? >> well, that's a good question too. what should the president learn with dealing with democrats? i think the president is a master communicator. sometimes he is too quick and reckless in the substance he has to say. but more often as this morning, he reassures people, shows where the united states stand, and what his intentions are. with daca particularly, i think you're burying the lead. the lead is not that schumer and pelosi were spinning that the president made a deal. the lead is that the president wants to make a deal about this population. this very vulnerable population, the most vetted

immigrant group we've ever had in the history of this nation. these are working people. people who are law-abiding, they came in at the average age of 6 years old within and the president, i've known him for 40 years, he's the kind of guy that says, hey, listen. what kind of country are we if we don't make room for these people who came in at no fault of their own. now, in terms of the communication war, i think the president has to keep doing what he's doing. do you think the base is going to leave him? to go where? vote for whom? steve: some people are afraid that this is going to lead to amnesty, and he won't build a wall. but ultimately, when it comes to bear knuckle politics, this is the ultimate leverage the president of the united states has with chuck and nancy. you want those 800,000 dreamers to have something going on here in the united states, then i want a wall, i want increased border security, i want all of this stuff.

somewhere in between, something's going to happen. >> again, i think there's an important point that has to be stressed. in the eight months donald trump has been president, border crossings on the southern border are down -- brian: they're back up. they're back up because word is the deal's going to be done, and we had congressman the other day saying that. >> i know louie pretty well. are they really? brian: 22%. >> from year to date? brian: no, over the last six, eight weeks. >> so there's been a spike. and are they children coming across? brian: you mean like president obama had when he did that word? there are has been a surge at the border. >> here's what i would do were i donald trump. rather than say conditional on the fate of these people is a wall, that seems so inhuman. steve: that's politics. brian: with all due respect our borders is inhuman. >> there's 500,000 in the united states army.

so what you're saying this gi has no security that he's not going to be deported when he goes home on leave. brian: mischaracterized with what steve and i are saying. what i'm trying to say is if you want a pathway to citizenship for people who are here illegally, you have to do what reagan wasn't able to and that is to secure the border and in cases throughout the border, a wall does work. >> here's what you do if you're president trump, in my opinion, and i hope he's watching. you don't do it with a sledgehammer and say wall or the kids get thrown out. ainsley: he's not doing that, though. i will say he's been quite compassionate. >> yes. i agree with you. and that's disturbing steve and brian. steve: he's a politician now. >> yes. he is. so you do this. everybody remembers the migrants who died, suffocated in that stifling container

truck being smuggled across the border. how many of these are trying to trek across the desert are raped and murdered and exploited? so that's what the president does. i want to regularize the border. i want to make the border more human. i want to protect these people. allow me to in el paso or tijuana, san diego. allow me to make my wall to prevent these inhuman disasters happening. you sell it at the human, compassionate advantage to everybody rather than wall or -- the problem with the president. abby: would democrats even take that, though? they have to give something up. that is how you get a deal done. what can democrats give up? >> they have agreed. we don't know the details to enhance border security. i maintain that -- abby: that means for them, we don't know. steve: so geraldo is giving the president a new spin. all right. brian: by the way, the indians have not lost a game since you

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steve: we are back with the fox news alert. a massive manhunt in london at this hour after a homemade bomb in a bucket exploded on a packed subway car at the height of rush hour. ainsley: and we just learned 22 people are now in the hospital with flash burns. hundreds evacuated from the station. witnesses claim that it was like a stampede to get out of that train. brian: and that's where a lot of people got hurt. police say this flaming bucket is an improvised device. it had a timer and did not fully detonate. what that means is not much. what about to an expert?

former bomb removal specialist dr. james mitchell. dr. mitchell, we know a little bit more than we did last hour when we spoke to you. now we just told you what we did. how much experience do you need to have to make something like that? >> well, to make a good one, you need to have a fair amount of experience or at least some sort of plans that have worked in the past. the point of the timer, of course, is that so the person placing the device can get away. and what i would be interested in is if i were doing the investigation is what's the rest of the bomb look like? it sounds like it had a low order detonation or partial detonation that created this flash burns. i would want to know what's the. if i started making bombs, there would be a signature for how the bombs were made because i would use the same techniques over. i would be checking the intel

and be looking at this internal parts. steve: dr. mitchell, do we know of any instances in recent terror attacks where people have done something like this? put it in a bucket, used a timer, walked off a train? >> i don't know if they've put them in buckets and used timers and walked off trains. they like the idea of cell phone and computer. but depending on cell phone connectivity and the tube, for example, you might want to use a timer because if you can't get cell phone signal, you can't set your bomb off. but you can set your timer and leave. abby: lives will be changed forever. you have facial burns with up to 18 people. this happened above ground. it could have happened below ground. the bomb was not detonated the way it could have. we have the president tweeting this morning that we need to be more proactive. we have got to be nasty. what did you make of those

comments? >> i think he's right. you know, unfortunately, it's not the politically correct thing to say. but these folks are intending to -- regardless who it is. brian: we just lost jim. but i understand what he was saying. not politically correct. i think we're all fed up with terror and politically correct. abby: he said he loved the faq the that the president is getting emotional. he said you think about the lives that have been lost. people affected by -- people this morning that are affected by. the emotion you want to hear from your leader. even if it's not politically correct. steve: and we apologize that we lost that signal out of florida. but this things happen on live tv. brian: because they use my visa, and it's maxed out. ainsley: that explains it. brian: president trump putting the middle class first with the tax reform plan. so how will he sell it to the american people. tony who works inside the treasury department will join

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>> there is a need in this country to have a civil discourse and have the free expression of idea. that's what makes our country so amazing. but it is quite another to take a -- someone who has been a traitor to this country, who has been convicted of treason and invite them. abby: harvard's decision comes just hours after michael resigned from his post over that move and current cia director mike pompeo pulled out of a speaking engagement there. manning is still invited to give a speech on that campus. steve: meanwhile, in other news, president trump in florida did yesterday sharing his plans for reforming our tax code and helping the middle class of america. >> this is not the benefit the wealthy. this is to benefit the middle class and to benefit companies where they're going to be producing jobs. we want to produce -- we want to produce jobs in this country. abby: how important is tax reform and what will it mean for the american people?

let's ask u.s. treasury department tony. good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. abby: people are concerned about getting more cash in their wall street. one for things wall street to do well but how do they do this? >> we want the american people to do well at the same time. we want the mainstream economy to do well too. the engines of growth and job creation in this country are america's small business men and women. so this is why you're seeing the president from the very beginning focus on the individual side of middle income hard-working families. this is what we're going to give them. lower rates. we're going to nearly double their standard deduction, simplify their tax code, we're going to basically make it possible for them to do their taxes on a sheet of paper. we're going to give a child tax credit. but more importantly, we're also going to make it easier for them to get a pay raise. by reducing this onerous, terrible burden that we put on our businesses. whether they're small or

large, america has the least competitive business tax structure in the world. brian: tony, how do you define middle class? what pay range? >> so, look, obviously, these are all details that we are viewing. we're going to collapse the brackets from seven down to three. so you're going to have a lot of people who are paying higher income brackets put into a much more competitive and fair income tax bracket. so on the individual side, that's where i think a lot of the progress is going to be. but the bottom line is, brian, when you talk about doubling the standard deduction for the tax filing family that's married, that's the first $24,000 of their income not taxed. that's a very meaningful, significant benefit immediately to all americans. steve: tony, i can hear them in the background hammering out a deal right now. >> literally; right? steve: literally. but here's the thing. all right. with this deal, you're going to need 60 u.s. senators. that means the republicans are going to have to give up something becoming i, probably, to get enough democrats over on their side

as they hammer out that deal. >> steve, we're committed to both tax reform and tax cuts. it has not happened in 31 years and the result is the only people benefiting from the existing tax code are the wealthy and well connected. which is why so many americans believe the system is rigged against them. and, look, we want 60 votes. the president has clearly reached out across the aisle. democratic senator from north dakota heidi traveled with him to her state when he made his tax reform. but what we believe we can get out of the reconciliation instructions, i know that sounds like something most americans don't care about, but it's important because that means if we get the right instructions, we could pass that with 51 votes in the senate. but clearly, we want bipartisan. there is absolutely no compelling case anyone can make to tell the american people they shouldn't get a pay razor keep their hard-earned money. we're going to give you the most competitive rates in the world so you could take your profit from overseas and bring them and reinvest them here. someone who could make that argument to me, i mean, better

do it fast because it really doesn't strike me as a partisan issue. this is an american issue. abby: yeah, good luck with your reelection campaign if that's the way you're going to go. >> exactly. brian: real quick, i know the president's not worried about the top 1 or 10%. but aren't those the people that are oftentimes the most productive, the most successful who usually create the opportunities when given more money? >> look, i mean, on the individual side, obviously, we're talking about where we're going to have the top rate, which is now at 39%. the president's point very simply has been very consistent. the focus of the individual tax cuts are middle income families. now, on the business side, and this is very important. it's not just the corporate side. it's all small businesses owner/operator sole proprietiers who i mentioned earlier, they're going to get a significant tax reduction. that helps the most productive people in our society be able to invest in their companies and create jobs. ainsley: just quickly a

timeline. what are we looking at? post september? >> obviously, our focus is to get it done this year. we want to make sure the economic benefit immediately. september 25th, we're going to see some framework and details and relief and we have to work through it fast for the american people. brian: maybe by the time the lions are playing on thanksgiving day, we'll have tax reform. tony, thanks very much. steve: tony used to be on the fox news channel all the time. now he's working for the federal government. abby: we all know his face. steve: yep. meanwhile, we've got a fox news alert here in new york city. an explosion to report on on a packed train during rush hour in london this morning. there is a manhunt on the way for whoever left it on that train. they say it was an ied that simply did not totally explode. abby: plus, todd is talking to friends at a diner. we're going to check in with him. we've got some things to say to him for my constipation,

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abby: a massive manhunt right now in london as a homemade bomb explodes during rush hour. steve: at least 22 people rushed to the hospital. one of the victims is believed to be a young child. witnesses say like a stampede to get out of the parsons green station. some reporting the smell of chemicals in the air after the flash and the bang. brian: here's some more information. police say this flaming bucket is an ied. according to sky news, it had a timer and did not fully detonate. ainsley: could have been a lot worse than it was. but still, so many lives will be changed forever. steve: meanwhile, let's switch gears. it's friday, and we have

dispatched tom out to pennsylvania where he's talking to the folks. >> yeah. that's right, steve. and today all eyes are on london and the real focus is are we safe here in america? we're going to get right to it and start with gordon. and gordon says, look, if we have to shut down the government, build the wall, it doesn't matter. i voted for trump. that's what i want him to do. why? >> well, that's -- pennsylvania is a mostly blue state, and we wanted him to build the wall. and it's not his fault, it's congress' fault that's holding him back. and we want him to shut the government down. fight them with fire and shut the government down. build the wall. >> gordon, thank you very much. we're not going to go to sherry, who's also a trump voter, and she said she heard about today's events in london, and she's frightened. this really underscores the reason we need tighter borders. >> oh, definitely. my parents -- or my dad and his parents came into this country legally through ellis

island, and i think that's what needs to be done now. we have to shut down the borders and vet the people before they come into the country. >> sherry, thank you. now we're going to go to a gentleman with a unique name. his name is chuck norris. and if you don't think that made him tough, he is a marine. i'm going to read the exact quote that you told me earlier. mr. norris says if you come to our great country, you stand in line and be interrogated. why do you say that? >> i say that because we have a great nation here, and i voted for president trump and one of the reasons i voted for him was to build that wall and interrogate anybody. and that's why i voted for him. >> and you told me i am so sick and tired of the wishy washy republicans. >> we need to take a stand.

they said that they would build that wall. they said that they would support him and now it's wishy washy. that's what i'm seeing. i'm seeing one side or the other coming out of both sides of the mouth. i don't like that. they need to take a stand one way. protect our citizens of this nation. >> chuck, thank you very much and, again, thank you for your service. and before we go, i want to bring in george. first of all, he's the owner of tom and josé third generation. we want to thank you for allowing us to be here today. you also have some views on today's events in london. >> oh, yeah. i mean, i think it's important for us to look at this as an opportunity for us, to think about what could happen anywhere. and for people needing to go about their daily lives but just still be vigilant, just watch for anything that doesn't seem right and seems a little out of place and report those. >> george, you couldn't have been more to us. typically would like to rile

up the crowd. but today with regard to the circumstances in london, we're just going to toss it back to new york. but thank you for helping us out. steve: good call. great reporting out there. brian: that's a good-looking diner. you just know the food is great. abby: some other stories we're following, more of hillary clinton's e-mails just released showing fresh examples of pay to play while she was secretary of state. judicial watch obtaining over 1,600 new documents revealing many instances of big clinton donors asking and receiving favors from the state department. this as the fbi changes course by announcing it will release more documents over its handling of the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. stay tuned to that. and espn denies trying to kickia meal hill off the air for calling the president a white supremacist. according to the online blog, the network wanted to replace her with another anchor but her cohost refused to go out without her. the network denies those claims. president trump hitting back saying this.

espn is paying a really big price for its politics and bad programming. people are dumping it in record numbers. apologize for untruth. well, hill has not apologized. espn has condemned her comments, but she still has her job. and a school district takes immediate action after a teacher tells quote don't use fox news as a source. the global study accused of calling fox news bias and directing students to only cite cnn for their assignments. brian: thanks, professor. abby: the superintendent said this. the students afford the respect to develop their own opinions. okay. we'll leave it there. steve: good. brian: a little tv guide work there. tv guide isn't as popular these days. might as well have your profession tell you what to watch. steve: meanwhile, you don't need the weather channel because we've got our weather person janice dean talking about the possibility of a big storm coming to new york. >> okay. so let's talk about that, and then you're going to meet my friends who came out here for the tough mudder.

let's take a look at the graphics because we have a storm that could potentially hit the northeast. this is josé. we've been talking about josé for almost two weeks now. and it's coming together that this potentially could impact the mid-atlantic and northeast coast. obviously, that's a little bit too close for comfort. so the bottom line is we have the weekend, folks, to plan for this. i just told my husband is the generator okay? so that's an indicator that we could potentially have a hurricane, yes, coming very close to the northeast. so all the folks along the coast, long island, new jersey, cape cod, boston, you need to be watching this for a potential impact, maybe even a landfall next week. all right? so we've got some time to prepare. that was the euro. this is the gss model. both coming into very good agreement that we could have quite a big storm on our doorstep midweek into friday and the weekend. so you have been warned. i want everybody to be okay and make your preparations

now. emergency kits need to be done this weekend. all right. did you guys hear that? right? we're in hurricane season. all right? where are you from. what's your name? >> my name is jody. i'm from florida. >> and jody told me for the tough mudder, she's going to be my stunt did you believe. so stay tuned for that. i want everybody to wave for everybody at home. all right. look at this crowd we've got today, guys. stay tuned we're going to do the tough mudder coming up. steve: that is tough. all right. thank you very much. brian: meanwhile, he's hollywood's ultimate insider and getting up close and personal with celebrities on a brand-new fox news channel show. his first subject? judge judy. tv's harvey joins us live next. steve: and how did this one man make this extreme obstacle course global? joins us outside, and we're going to do that allergies with nasal congestion?

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ainsley: we are back now with a fox news alert. hundreds of police officers hunting for a suspect after a homemade bomb explodes on a packed subway car at the height of rush hour. at least 22 people are now in the hospital. most of them with burns. witnesses say it was like a stampede to get out of the station. some reporting the smells of chemicals in the air after that explosion. well, police say this flaming bucket is an improvised explosive device. according to sky news, it had a timer on it and did not fully detonate. we'll keep a close eye to that. out to brian and steve for tough mudder. what have you got? brian: scaling walls, going through mud, running through

10,000 volts of electricity. we're talking about only one thing. the tough mudder contest. steve: that's right. it may sound crazy but in seven years, more than 3 million people have run the course all over the world, including us. >> here to tell us the ceo. are we related? >> i don't know. maybe. brian: brand-new book. >> brand-new book. it takes a tribe to build the tough mudder. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having us. steve: before we get started, you're a former british military counterterrorism expert. as you see what happened in london this morning, your thoughts? >> you know, unfortunately, i think we're going to see more of the islamic state guys which is the good thing. i think most of us just want to go and get on with their lives. so thank goodness there's no loss of life today. brian: tough mudder. it happened. you're running a race. you have no help, and then you say i want to put a race

together, but it is with a team concept. >> that's right. i think people want to do things together. we live in this crazy age where we spend our time on instagram and not wit other people. and tough mudder is an extreme version of people helping each other. >> and you look at how successful this is, and i understand last year you made $100 million raising $13 million for charity. this started out as a project for schools. >> that's right. i was getting my mba, all of my professors told me it was a terrible idea. steve: you went to harvard business school. >> i did. and i said, no, i want to start a company that makes a difference, that gets people healthy and active. >> janice was against this. >> i loved tough mudder, but my stunt did yo double is here, and she's going to be taking over in just a second. brian: this looks so different from when you first came here. >> that's right. we're putting on 130 events around the world. we have tv shows, training gyms as well and in 20 different countries. and it's a tribe.

whenever you've seen someone do tough mudder. brian: i love this. you talk about torque. >> you can see they're pulling each other up. you have to grab a stranger's hand. ainsley: come on, buddy. run up that hill. you mention the t-shirts. whenever i run my tough mudder t-shirts, people think i'm cool. >> it's a community, and i think people enjoy that. they like that part of it. steve: this guy's going to make it. come on, come on, come on. everybody, pull that guy over the hill. brian: tell me about this book of yours. >> it's all about the importance of building companies that serve a higher purpose. tough mudder, we're not curing accordance, but we are making the world a better place. getting them active. steve: your website if people want more information. >> toughmuder.com. brian: brian is going to be doing it soon.

brian: weekend editions coming up too. that will be fun. stick around and don't leave a mess. coming up next, did you know that judge judy got married to the same man twice? harvey lovett broke that story. part of a new tmz featuring judge. steve: meanwhile, this channel is going to feature shannon at the top of the hour. >> in the meantime we are tracking developments out of london after what's been described as a fire and an explosion on the subway there. officials now calling it a terrorist incident. and north korea launches yet another missile over our ally japan. secretary tillerson will speak live around 10:00 a.m. we will take you there. plus, more conservative push back to the president's decision to get cozy with democrats and brand-new hillary clinton e-mails have been discovered, sparking new allegations of wrongdoing. what's in there? those stories and more. america's newsroom. top of the hour

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>> tmz harvey is getting up close with celebrities. steve: that's right. for the premier, he sits down with judge judy. watch this. >> i don't feel as if anything that happened to me in my life was sidetracked because i was a woman. >> are you a feminist? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. i don't know what that means. i actually don't know what that means. do i want equal pay with men? absolutely not. brian: wow. steve: she makes a lot. brian: she makes too much.

tmz founder, overall big time entrepreneur, the host harvey eleven joins us right now from los angeles. why is this show the next step in your career? >> well, you know, we're turning tmz into a studio. i mean, we're starting to produce nontmz-branded content. and the reason i love this is because, you know, i love autobiographies, and i love autobiographies for my whole adult life. and i wanted to find a way of doing a show that wasn't sitting on a sofa asking people from childhood on what happened to you. and the hook that we came up with is you go into their home, and you divide their life into seven chapters. and each chapter represents a period of their life or an area of their life, and the person i talk to has an object that they chose to keep that

represents that period that they kept over the years. and they connect to it, and it's a way of getting into their lives where they feel invested, they feel in control. and using that device, it just opens them up. and i have found, you know, doing the show now where we have ten people that we're going to be profiling that all sorts of surprising things happen. and even they're surprised, and they talk about things, and they say, you know, i never really thought of that before, which, to me, makes it the success of the show. steve: and we're not going to reveal whether or not it's judge judy's gavel this week. but you did, harvey, have a terrific special, which was a pilot for this with donald trump, and we saw things in his background and his personality we've never seen before. >> yeah. i mean, again, i think when you sit there and somebody's just hurling questions at you, and you're the subject, and you don't know what's going on, you're somewhat guarded. but if you're in control at

the beginning, at least, where you're saying. okay. this is what i have, this is what it means, this is why i kept it, it just starts it off where they're more open, and i think that happened with all of them. i'll tell you. you know, mark cuban, we'll talk about politics. mark cuban got really specific with me about what his intentions are, and i'll tell you. you're going to be hearing a lot from this guy. we already have, obviously. but mark cuban may have a future in politics. >> well, we cannot wait for the show. you start with judge judy, mark cuban, hulk hogan, tyler perry, on the fox news channel at 8:00 p.m. so congrats to you on the new show. >> thank you so much. really, thank you, guys. steve: fox and friends is going to break away. backa in two minutes no matter who you are, a heart attack can happen without warning. a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another heart attack.

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show. it's what harvey love and on saturday. look out for jose. >> i'm getting a chance to fill in for tucker tonight. so stay up to 8:00. >> speak out lots to watch. have a great friday. >> bill: fox news alert no. the heart of london, this target was the will subway system. a homemade bomb detonated the tree and packed with morning commuters and schoolchildren at 8:00 a.m. i'm assenting passengers scrambling for the exits. the nation already under alert after several attacks already this year. it's breaking news as we said hello on a friday. bill hemmer live here in "america's newsroom" pete shannon, good morning. >> shannon: right now scotland yard not releasing any details on suspects but police say hundreds of detectives are looking for the city's network of surveillance cameras. passengers on board the london train saw a small bag catch fire and that sparked panic.