house. she's a happy clown. long says she wants to see clowns painted in a more positive light. happy friday, everyone. i'm sandra smith. here's trace gallagher in for shep. >> we begin with breaking news out of st. louis. take a look at the protest mounting there on the streets of st. louis, this is all to protest the acquittal of officer jason stockley. a white police officer on trial for shooting a black man. this is after a high-speed chase. the chase ended in a crash and the officer reportedly shot into the car killing anthony smith. the trial ended in acquittal and you have seen this before in ferguson, missouri. they're now in the process of getting lined up. the police are there, the protesters are there. we imagine some on both sides. we have a reporter on the scene. we'll have more as it comes in to "shepard smith reporting."

meantime, president trump set to speak live in a matter of minutes talking to members of the military. the president tweeted about getting tough on terrorists and we we need a stronger travel ban after news broke of another terror attack in london. emergency vehicles racing to the scene after a homemade bomb sent flames flashing through a subway. now a man hunt for the suspect responsible for the terror in the tube. plus -- warning sirens piercing in air in japan after north korea sent a ballistic missile over a japanese territory. we'll have complete coverage and the rest of today's developments in this hour of "shepard smith

reporting". president trump holding talks behind closed doors today and set to speak with members of the military and their families. we'll bring you his remarks when they begin. we're waiting to see if the president brings up the attack in london. 22 people were hurt in a bombing on a subway train in rush hour this morning. we'll have more on the investigation into the attack ahead. this morning the president said terrorists are "losers" and he called for a stronger travel ban in the u.s. tweeting "the travel ban into the united states should be far larger, tougher and more specific but stupidly that would not be politically correct. we've made more progress against isis than the obama administration has made in eight years. must be proactive and nasty." ahead of the president's speech this hour, we're waiting to hear if he talks about north korea.

this morning the regime launched a ballistic missile over japan and into the pacific ocean. analysts say it flew far enough to hit the u.s. territory of guam. the u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley spoke at the white house briefing. she said if north korea continuing its aggression, she could hand over the situation to james mattis, the defense secretary. >> there's not a lot the security council will do from here when you cut the trade and the oil. so having said that, i have no problem kicking to it general mattis. i think he has plenty of options. >> the united nation's security council holding an emergency meeting this hour after north korea's launch. john roberts is live for us at the white house. john, what else did the white house says about north korea? >> good afternoon. the president left on a helicopter a short time ago to go to joint base andrews for the speech that will be coming in about 40 minutes. he was asked if he was running out of options on north korea.

the president said no. we fleshed that out a little more by nikki haley earlier during the briefing where h.r. mcmaster said look, the military option is there if they need to use it. they would prefer not to use the military option. there's sanctions that have yet to kick in. nikki haley saying it's going to take some time to find out if they can just go with sanctions or if they need to go down the road of military action. listen to what she said. >> what is really important with north korea, that we try to push through as many diplomatic options as we have. we have strangled their economic situation at this point. that will take a little time. it's already started to take effect. what we're seeing is that they continue to be provocative and reckless. >> as she said at the beginning, she's willing to kick this down to -- across to secretary mattis if need be. you'll remember a couple weeks ago here at the white house on a

sunday afternoon, secretary mattis said they don't want to see the annihilation of a nation, but they have the options to do so. what is also important to h.r. mcmaster and nikki haley, there's enforcement of the sanctions. the sanctions they believe will work, but the countries have to stay united against north korea so that they bite and no sneaking things through the border to help prop up the regime. trace? >> trace: the president is juggling a lot of things. what did he say about london? >> we heard from him this morning when he was talking to the 11-year-old, the entrepreneur from virginia, who volunteered to come in and cut the white house grass. the president was letting him cut the grass. the president lamenting the fact that we have another terror attack in the u.k. here's what he said. >> it's a terrible thing. this keeps going and going. and we have to be very smart, we

have to be very, very tough. perhaps we're not nearly tough enough. that is just an absolutely terrible thing. in fact, i'm going to call the prime minister right now. >> must have been an interesting phone call with the prime minister. before he came out of the rose garden, he laid to lay the attack on scotland yard. the president wrote "another attack in london by a loser terrorist. these are sick and demented people that were in the sights of scotland yard. must be proactive." here's the immediate response from theresa may. >> i never think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on an ongoing investigation. >> so h.r. mcmaster asked about that this afternoon at the briefing. tried to clean it up a bit. didn't seem to come up with a completely satisfactory answer. listen here. >> the president was

communicating that obviously all of our law enforcement efforts are focused on this terrorist threat for years. scotland yard has been a leader as our fbi has been a leader. if there was a terrorist attack here, got forbid we would say they were in the sights of the fib. he didn't mean anything beyond that. >> so when i say the answer perhaps wasn't completely satisfactory, he was asked if he could clarify what he said. he went back and said the same thing. it would appear to indicate that the president was suggesting that whoever was responsible and scotland yard at that time didn't know who was responsible had an eye on the person and perpetrated the act. the u.k. is saying not the case from what they know now. trace? >> trace: yeah, we were teasing that the president is about to speak at joint base andrews. do we have an understanding about what he said? >> the 75th anniversary of the

air force. we expect he will talk about north korea and talk about the u.k. terror attack and the two storms, harvey and irma and what the federal government is doing to respond to those. trace? >> trace: the chief white house correspondent john roberts live on the north lawn. thank you. let's bring in chris wallace from "fox news sunday." we should begin where john roberts left off there. you heard what they said at the white house, what the president said, the tweets about london this morning. what did he mean in your assessment, chris, by saying hey, scotland yard has its eye on this. what is the intonation there from the president? >> well, i don't know. the implication seemed to be and what people seemed to take from it that whoever this was, the president believed had been under the surveillance of scotland yard, that they knew about these folks and somehow as gone suggested to allow them to

continue and commit this terrorist act. the comment from prime minister may seemed mild by american standards. but folks over on the other side of the atlantic say that for her, very careful, very soft-spoken on these issues. to say what he said is a real reprimand. sort of like jeff sessions calling his attorney general an idiot as we found out today on the front page of the new york" times" and speculated when the president meets with>> every ti in the u.k., the president says something about strengthening the travel ban. if you look at the last four attacks in london, the westminster and the arena, these are all home grown attacks. yes, scotland yard did have them on their radar but didn't do anything worthy at that point in

time. so the question begins, is he trying to push the travel ban that if u.k. had a tougher travel ban, this wouldn't happen and wouldn't happen therefore in the united states. >> well, to some degree, he's frustrated he pushed the travel ban and you're right, the vast majority of the people involved in these terrorist attacks in london have been home grown, not migrants coming in. but the president frustrated that he's been arguing about the travel ban since january. it's going to come up for an argument before the supreme court in october. as he said, he called it stupid political correctness. i also wonder to some degree and supposition on my part, after the back and forth yesterday about daca and whether the president was breaking faith with his supporters want a border wall, whether the president is trying to establish that he's a hard liner when it comes to allowing people in the

country. >> you go back to daca, it's still in the air is. there a deal in the works? is the president just as the white house said getting perspective from these top democrats or is there a deal in the works? >> well, depends who you talk to and when you talk to them. certainly seemed yesterday morning as if there was a deal. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, chuck and nancy as the president calls them, seems to think if there was not a deal an agreement. daca protection, permanent protections for the dreamers in return for tougher border enforcement but not funding for the wall. at the day went on and he saw backlash from supporters, hardline people on immigration, illegal immigration, he backed off and said we might have this deal on daca but there would have to be funding fore a wall in a different venue and funding has to come first or we're going to block daca. is there a deal?

clearly not. you also have to take into account the republican leaders. mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. they were completely left out of this whole deal or certainly the dinner on wednesday night. they're saying look, we have control over when things get to the floor in the house for a vote and to the house and the senate and what paper comes down. they have control over what will come up for legislative votes. >> trace: yeah, we have about a minute left. there's been a tweet storm this week from the president. this whole back and forth with espn. what do you make of this? the white house has gone out of its way. we did a story last night talking about how espn in the way its handled their commentators that have made controversial comments have not been equal. what do you think? >> it seems like the conservatives like curt schilling gets fired for

comments they make but this woman that called the president a white supremacist, they're giving her a pass so far. i'm not sure whether it makes sense for the white house to get into a fight with espn about whether or not they're going to fire an anchor. but there does seem to be some double standard in terms of how they deal with political commentary by people that are supposed to be commenting on sports and who -- which comments are considered acceptable or at least not fireable offenses and those that are. >> chris wallace, good to see you. thank you, sir. >> you bet. >> trace: this week open "fox news sunday," chris talks with h.r. mcmaster. he will have the latest on the debate on the dreamers with missouri republican senator roy blunt and illinois democratic senator dick durbin. that's on your local fox station. i want to go back right now to the breaking news at the top of

the house, this is in st. louis. the protest is going from 13 minutes ago when we showed you the pictures. you didn't have this crowd or there was a different angle that didn't show us this crowd. looks like the protest is starting to grow here. if you don't know the background here, this is based on the acquittal of officer jason stockley, a white police officer accused of shooting and killing anthony smith. we have a reporter on the scene. we'll have breaking news as it comes out of st. louis. the protest is growing. meantime ahead, the crowd on a london train going about their lives when the terrorist attack and triggered a panic rush for safety. >> it was chaos. every man for himself. >> just scrambling and falling. tripping over people and falling over.

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>> trace: i heard a bang and a wall of fire was coming at me. that's how a witness described how a homemade woman sounded

like during rush hour. the islamic state claiming responsibility for the attack. more on that in just a moment. emergency officials say the attack injured two dozen people. police say it was a terror attack and they're now on a massive man hunt for the suspect. so far, no arrests. cops say this bucket bomb, is what they're calling it, wept off sending a fireball through a passenger car on the tube, the subway system in london. witnesses say the explosion happened as it pulled into the parsons green state on the west side at 8:00 a.m. local time. passengers say it was complete pandemonium. they pushed their way through open doors and toppling each other to get above ground. >> i was trying to run as fast as i could. we all got stuck in a stampede. i was against the wall. there was people on top of people. >> police say at least 29 people were hurt in the attack.

most with burns. the chief intelligence correspondence catherine herridge is live in washington. catherine? >> i want to start with the location of the attack. it's an area called parsons green. it's a residential part of southwest london. i want to draw your attention to the fact that this subway line connects to one of the central rail and commuter hubs in london called earl's court. based on the reporting from london, it appears there was a timer with the device. it's entirely possible that it was timed to explode around the peak period of the computer rush hour and then also in one of the heavy transit points in that network. i want to draw your attention to the photos of the bucket bomb. the bucket bomb is very reminiscent based on a conversation i had earlier today with a counter terrorism contact with a pressure cooker bomb that

was used in the boston marathon bombing. it has a lot of the same crick ticks. it has a container, very similar to what we saw in boston and then packed with explosives and the wires indicate it had some type of remote detonation device. the other thing that i want to draw your attention to, it was placed inside the subway car. that's important. if it goes off inside and enclosed area, it has a concussive effect. it amplifies the power of the explosion and more likely to kill people than just injure them. i think that helps explain why british authorities today were saying it could have been much worse, trace. >> trace: yeah, could have been worse. catherine herridge live in d.c. thank you. let's go back to our breaking news. this coming out of st. louis. these are live pictures, the aerials as the helicopter tries to get situated in st. louis.

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>> trace: now more on the attack in london.

police say a bucket bomb exploded on a packed subway injuring two dozen people this morning. let's bring in tara maller, cia analyst and senior policy adviser with the counter extremism project. every time you hear of an attack on a train or a bridge or in a mall or restaurant, you have to kind of put your hands up and say what do you do? how do you defend against this stuff? >> you do. unfortunately, it's becoming increasingly common, particularly in europe and particularly in the u.k. there's a number of measures you can do. unfortunately at the point where the individuals getting on the train with the explosive device, at that point it's difficult to stop. we don't have metal detectors on major transportation around cities. there's things that can be done. law enforcement has some of these people on their radar screen. there's something that we can do

about cracking down on this terrorist content online, on platforms that are helping give people instructions, helping with propaganda and to help incite this radicalization that we're seeing predominantly in europe and here in the united states as well. >> trace: we learned a couple of fascinating things from catherine herridge, one, that this was for all intents and purposes like the cooker bomb. and isis has claimed responsibility, which is awfully fast. do you think there's any kind of connection or link in those two pieces of information? >> sure. it's fast. i'm going to leave to it the forensics a analysis to see if there's a fingerprint on the bomb. we don't know in the individual was in touch in terms with a

longer plot or cell or just inspired. they're all possible. at the end of the day, doesn't matter. lives could have been lost and law enforcement needs to prevent against both of those. if it had a higher level of coordination or funding or organization, it's more concerning. that means there might be other parts to the plot. it's interesting. the u.k. has said they honed in on a suspect but haven't released a name or description. i sort of wonder if they're trying to track the individual in some way, see who the person might be in touch with and make sure there's not others potentially tied to this or any other ongoing potential plots. >> trace: tara, good information. thanks for joining us. >> thanks. >> trace: want to go back to breaking news in st. louis. you can see the live pictures there. we didn't know if this was the crowd expanding or just a different camera angle from the helicopter.

what you're seeing here is a protest which seems to me right now largely a peaceful protest. though there is a huge contingent of police officers on the ground there we're told. they're taking this very seriously. wells fargo and a number of companies have let their employees go for the day, letting them go for a long weekend. we're talking about thousands of employees that work in and around this area. i want to bring in will carr. he's live on the street and can give us a better idea on ground level. what are you seeing, will? >> hi, trace. let me set this up for you. first thing this morning, a judge came out and decided that the officer involved in this case, jason stockley, was not guilty of first degree murder in the death of a black man, lamar smith. after that happened, people started pouring into the streets here in downtown st. louis. there was an indication that this would happen today. there was a thought that there could be the not guilty verdict. so in anticipation a lot of

businesses as you mentioned shut down here. many boarding up their windows. there's hundreds of people here in the streets. they have shut the streets down in st. louis. it has been peaceful so far. now, the concern is that this is still very -- a lot of tension still from ferguson, which is back in 2014. ferguson is only about 20 minutes north of where we are right now. in fact, that shooting only happened five minutes from ferguson. so with that, you come down here, you talk to the residents and the business owners and ferguson is still on their mind. in fact, some of the business owners in ferguson are boarding up their windows as we speak. they're worried this could spill over into their community. we know the national guard is on standby. we heard from the sheriff earlier today. he said they're going to stop anybody from doing anything that is not peaceful. i spoke with one business owner.

he says he understands that they're protesting but the last thing he wants is damage on his business, trace. >> trace: yeah. as you walk around there, is there anybody that is supporting the police officers or is this a one-sided protest in favor -- not in favor but protesting the officer's acquittal? >> this is very much an anti police protest at this point. i want to continue to walk you through this crowd, a lot of expletives on shout and people shouting and people with their faces covered out here. a lot of hostility. this guy has a toy gun with his face covered. everything has been peaceful. there's a lot of tension. i was talking to a business owner. he said that st. louis at this point is still two communities. he said there's the white community and the black community. when you get a verdict like this because they really felt that this was murder, the smith

attorney ended up showing evidence that the officer involved here had his own personal a.k. 47 during the entire scene that played out in 2011. the fact that this took years to develop, the tension here really only started boiling a again after ferguson with this case and with the verdict coming out, it's the last thing that many people wanted to see out here, trace. >> trace: yeah. will, very quickly. any sign -- we know there's some religious groups out there. any sign of black lives matters? >> there's definitely black lives matters memberers and leaders from the religious community, trace. >> trace: will carr live for us in st. louis as the news come out of there. we wait for president trump to address members of the military, there is no longer any doubt that north korea's missiles can hit american soil. the longest one yet, right? the latest launch which analysts say could have reached the american territory of guam.

up next, we go live to the korean peninsula where an already tense situation has been getting even worse next.

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covered by most insurance and medicare plans. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ >> trace: we're waiting for president trump to speak to members of the military at joint base andrews. he's set to start any minute now. he was supposed to start 58 seconds ago. we'll see if he talks about the latest missile launch out of north korea. they say it was north korea's longest missile flight so far. a pentagon spokesman said if the military determined if the missile was a threat, crews would have shot it down. let's get live to greg palkot in seoul, south korea. what do we know about the missile launch? >> alarming stuff. people looking at the latest provocation coming from north

korea. it's the most successful test of an intermediate range missile that we saw first hand in pyongyang in april. the launch happened at a site not far from pyongyang. it was a long range launch, 2,300 miles into the pacific ocean before going down there. long enough according to experts that it could have hit guam and the u.s. military bases on the u.s. island territory of guam if it was pointed in that direction. luckily for the folks there, it was not. south korea was monitoring the preps for this launch and was ready when it happened literally six minutes after north korea launched its missiles, south korea launched theirs. but no, it wasn't to take down the missile coming from north korea. it was a show of force into the sea of japan. we heard strong words from

officials here. japanese of course were shaken up. the missile went over the northernmost island of japan. sirens wailed and loud speakers told folks to take shelter. again, the second time this has happened in japan in the last three weeks. very concerning. reaction? yes, swift. secretary of state tillerson has been very active on this issue. first out of the box saying that what north korea had done was provocative and threatening. remember, this was the first offensive action by north korea since the u.n. security council voted on those stronger sanctions earlier in the week, since north korea itself did that strong nuclear test two weeks ago. the regional neighbors, japanese prime minister abe speaking out and calling it reckless. south korean president moon saying that dialogue with north korea right now absolutely

unacceptable. even the nominal allies of north korea, russia and china also speaking out. nobody really knows how to harness this kim jong-un regime heading towards a real nuclear missile arsenal. back to you, trace. >> trace: greg palkot live in south korea. let's bring in gordon chang, author of "nuclear show down, north korea takes on the world." great to see you. these launches are semi routine. they launch and everybody condemns the launch and the u.n. has an emergency meeting. they do something and everybody shrugs their shoulders. >> you pointed out something incredibly important. that is that we have to break this chain of events. president trump can say fire and fiery, locked and loaded but now we're passing from the point that we should be doing things. we should be imposes costs on

the chinese for their support of north korea. there's all sorts of measures that we can be imposing on the north itself. we need the start showing acts of will. right now, kim jong-un, the north korean leader, has all the initiative and if he's not stopped, i'm afraid that he's going to miscalculate when he feels his arsenal is ready to launch against south korea or wherever. >> doesn't seem to me, gordon and a lot of experts that a lot of things actually affect kim jong-un. he clearly is getting some money from somewhere. enough money to prop up the regime. his people may starve but he's getting some money to support this place. seems like people keep talking about possible military action. is it overstepping to say that south korea kind of controls the tempo when it comes to military action against the north? >> not really. i don't think it's the south koreans so much. it is north koreans driving the events. you talk about the north koreans getting money from somewhere. well, they have two main sources

of funds. one is iran, because north korea sell missiles and nuclear weapons technology to them and they probably pay for the chemicals that to to the assad regime. it's estimated iran pays them $2 billion and $3 billion a year for cooperation. the other source is china. there's a lot of legal trade, but there's substantial illicit trade across that border. the chinese have not wanted to stop it. they have wanted to support their north korean allies. so kim jong-un despite the condemnation of the international community is able to continue because he has the support of tehran and beijing. >> trace: so if you're playing the stick and carrot game with china, what is the incentive to be more involved here and if you're going to use a stick, what do we do to go after china if they're not? >> there's a couple things we can do. their largest banks have been

laundering money for the north koreas, including bank of chain, which was named in a 2016 u.n. report for money laundering for north korea. the even larger chinese banks have been involved in this business. we can have them declared primary money laundering concerns under the patriot act and that would be death sentences. there's a 301 trade act in process. an investigation into china's theft of intellectual property. if that investigation shows the chinese are guilty, there could be extraordinary remedies like tariffs. as the president tweeted on september 3, we could impose an embargo on those countries that deal with north korea. all sorts of tools that we. have our economy is large and vibrant. >> trace: gordon, just to explain to the audience, you can

see on the left-hand side of the screen. we've gotten the two-minute warning. so we're under two minutes before melania trump will come out and introduce the president. i want to know, gordon, do you believe -- rex tillerson has been very involved in this. do you believe there's a plan the white house has aside from going after china or kind of, you know, using more -- i don't know -- more influential tactics with south korea? what else does the white house have in its arsenal? >> the white house has been effective in dealing with south korea, getting south korea away from its initial attempts to support the north korean economy. their new president is very pro engagement of the north. president trump has pushed the south koreans out of that business. that's important. of course, the trump administration has looked at the u.n. security council. we're not going to get any joy

there unless we're willing to impose those costs on moscow and beijing. the administration is about to do that. you know, right now, they have a number of options that they're considering including some forceful ones. i hope that they don't use those. i hope they use the economic ones because i think those economic ones are very effective if applied with a lot of determination. >> trace: when you talk about forceful ones, it scares everybody. everybody is concerned about military force. they know in the initial hours, you have seoul south korea, which is 65, 70 miles -- >> 35. >> trace: 35 miles from the dmz. seems like it's an awfully heavy price to pay when you talk about military action. >> sure, but the one thing that we can also do is we need to stop the trade of north korea selling missiles and other such things around the world. we do need to board their ships,

this is something that the united states wants to do. this is one of our high priority items. we didn't get it from the security council on monday in resolution 2375. but this is something that i think that we are going to do. we have the authority under other areas in order to board ships. so i think that we have to stop this very dangerous trade. >> trace: we hear about united nations. the scrambled-together meetings they're talking about. do you believe these are effective? do you believe the u.n. sanctions that these have been effective up to this point in time? >> no, they haven't been. north korea has gotten all the money that it needs. yes, we have seen that with these accelerated launches, with the detonation of a bomb on september 3, which was probably a hydrogen device. clearly the north koreans are

making much faster progress than any one thought that they could. >> trace: stand by if you will, gordon. you can see the music is playing and the deal here is that melania trump, the first lady, will introduce the president. we were waiting because melania was meeting with a group of children about 10, 15 minutes ago. so we figured this would be about on time. i want to go live to john roberts at the white house. we've been having this conversation with gordon chang. what will the say in your estimation about north korea? is he growing to say we have a plan and going to leave it up to the defense secretary, the secretary of state? what is on the table? >> i spoke to the president in person about this yesterday saying what are you going to do about north korea? things don't appear to be working? he suggested he's having talks

with the chinese premi premier jinping. he said at the moment, there's an increased regime of sanctions. we heard nikki haley and h.r. mcmaster talk about that they're cutting off 90% of exports and 30% of fuel. this won't happen overnight. as the days and weeks wear on, they believe that north korea will be squeezed by the sanctions. that said, if they're not properly enforced, if some of north korea's allies or patrons sneak things across the border or people get them in some other way, the military option is on the table. nikki haley said i have no problem kicking this over to general mattis if necessary. we recall that mattis said in strident terms saying they have

a number of military options to take on north korea warning kim jong-un, trace, not to ever fire a nuclear weapon in the direction of the united states, any of its territories or its allies. mattis saying we're not looking to totally annihilate north korea, but we have a number of military options to do so. i imagine what you'll hear what the president will say, the united states remain committed to a denuclearized north korean peninsula, that it's going to pursue diplomatic measures at least for the time being and the military option remains on the table. >> trace: so if i hear you correctly, the military option that you're talking about that mattis may employ is this possibility of a salvo. maybe not a direct hit. maybe a salvo to do something to shake things up. we have a great deal of military might in that area right now off the korean peninsula. either conducted or about to

conduct more military exercises with south korea. is that the intent here? that we're going -- we have the ability, the capability to put on a very impressive show of force. >> i think what mattis was alluding to is much starker than that, trace. that is that if north korea were to fire a nuclear weapon at the united states or guam or any of our other territories in the western pacific or any of our allies like south korea or japan, australia, anybody like that, that would be met with an in kind response. the unspoke words there were nuclear weapons. in terms of military options, i've been talking to some military leaders, that say what they're really worried about is those artillery batteries doug into the northern side of north and south korea is that it would

maximize the protection of those artillery pieces. i'm told we have ordinants penetrators that would take them out. but if there was a war, many people would die and likely on both sides. >> john roberts, stand by. i want to go back to gordon chang. you heard what john roberts was saying there. do you think that's a fair assessment of where the military stands in reference to north korea? >> yes. seoul is a metropolitan area of about 26 million people. it's close to the demilitarized zone. although the u.s. air force can take out a lot of that entrenched artillery, we can't do so until 15, 20 minutes after the hostilities start, which means that during that period,

there could be incredible casualties in the metropolitan area. so that has really been the deterrent for the united states. that's why we don't conduct surge strikes against north korea. >> trace: so what i heard you saying, in the meantime, if something did happen and there was a military attack on north korea and they were to launch on south korea, they have weapons pointed seoul and it would take us several months up to an hour, maybe two hours to actually be able to go after those weapons. so are you saying that in the course of a 45 or an hour time frame, they could unleash a barrage on seoul, south korea? >> yes. the casualties for the first hours for a general war on the korean peninsula could number in the hundreds of thousands. you could have a million or two casualties in the first day or so. maybe the first two days. no one really knows. the estimates that come out of

u.s. forces korea are horrific. that has meant that the united states has tried other options in which to deal with this. so i think the u.s. has extraordinary economic leverage over the chinese. we want them to use their leverage over the north koreans. so far we haven't employed that leverage for a number of reasons. i think we will start to consider that because the north koreans are maybe nine months, maybe a year from being able to amount a nuke on a missile to hit the homeland. as the president says, that's unacceptable. >> trace: last thing china wants is to have a war right back in the korean peninsula where all of a sudden they have millions of refugees flooding into their borders. is that a fair assessment? >> they do worry a little bit about refugees, but they believe they can control it. they just deploy the people's

liberation army along the two rivers that form the border. we have de-mined three corridors in the militarized zone. so north koreans would move south to be with other koreans, not move north to china where they would have to dodge the worldest largest military. so that is a little bit exaggerated on the part of the chinese. they always try to tell us they're worried about refugees. in reality, i don't think that that is really the motivation behind their policies. >> gordon chang stand by if you would to set the table for the viewers just joining us. we're waiting and looking to joint base andrews. apparently the president is about to come out and speak. he's about 24, 25 minutes late. the first lady is also going to come out and introduce here. we're waiting for that. we did get the two-minute

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>> trace: we want to update you on a story we've been covering. the protests in st. louis over the acquittal of jason stockley, a white police officer that shot and killed lamar smith a black man after a high-speed chase. we were telling you earlier, we had will carr, that sore far all seemed peaceful. now we're getting a number of social media videos and some local stations, including our local fox affiliate on the ground there, reporting that police are in fact pepper spraying some of these protesters. we don't know the scenario surrounding that pepper spraying. we know from our fox affiliate it's happening there. the protests are going on all

day long and into the night, which is the frightening part for police. we know there's a huge con tin -- contingent of police officers on the scene. several businesses have let their employees go for the day. the schools have been shut down early. everything is on a standstill in st. louis waiting to see what happens to this protest. we'll keep our eyes on it as the live pictures continue there on the ground in st. louis. meantime, switches over -- looks like we have a little bit of action. ivanka trump has come in, everybody is standing. it appears we're at the moment we have been waiting for the past 25 minutes. ♪

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