home, and stop any potential violence. we hope you have a great evening. we'll see you on monday. ♪ >> brian: here we go. it's a fox news alert. tonight, right now. protests in st. louis, missouri following acquittal of a former police officer back in 2011 for a shootingme death of a black man, 24 years old, good evening, everyone. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i am brian kilmeade. my privilege to fill in tonight and we have a lot to discuss. let's begin here. protesters and riot police in the streets of st. louis right now as they have been throughout the day, but as the darkness falls, the crowds mount. let's go to fox correspondent mike tobin who is in the field. mike, what's happening there?ik >> how are you, brian? well, they have taken off for a march up euclid toward the center of town. tough to get a good estimate on numbers. people like to throw out

that modifier peaceful. it is peaceful at the moment. o there is no trouble. you only need the modifier if it becomes violent.t. it's supposed to be a peaceful protest. they are chanting, "hands up, don't shoot." see a lot of the black lives matter signs. it was a different situation about an hour, hour and a half ago.on right at 5:00, local time. the demonstrators got pretty ugly pretty quickly. they went to the police headquarters. they start of the jumping up and down on police suv.icad broke the windshield theree and some of them got out some rocks. only the plastic bottles and they threw those at the police. the police came back with pepper spray with the riote gear according to chief o'toole, four officers have been injured thus far. minor injuries and 13 arrests have been made. we are going out through the i evening. no one here is happy with that verdict, brian. they promised to demonstrate. a lot of indications that it could become unpleasant throughout the evening. >> brian: mike, i know you have been in ferguson coveringou

some of that. you're right near ferguson in missouri. i have one of my stations that carries the radio show. they told me you could definitely feel a difference with this governor. he has the swat guys out early. he sealed off parts of the parkway. he kind of knew what was going to happen. and was more ready for it would you back that up?an >> yeah. they have made a lot off mistakes with ferguson. particularly the local police.stsoso when they didn't handle it initially and then when they did handle it, they came out too heavy. had all those horrible on optics. making people say that the police had been militarized that spawned more emotion, drew more people into the demonstration. made the whole thing whip into a frenzy. police are not trying to duplicate. as we get a look around, what is one thing you do not see right now? you do not see any police officers. they are monitoring it but backing off. if things get ugly, you will be surprised how quickly the police will descend on itou like a hornet's nest.ur they are not here right noww and that minimizes the friction between

demonstrators and cops. >> briand: the verdict was not a surprise. 3:00 it was at 9:00 a.m. that was not a benefit to law enforcement it? >> gave everybody all day to get fired up. people were intent on we smelled a lot of pot earlier. they want to come out andot get themselves in the mood and start a raucous protest. they had all day to get their engines revved up. spread the word. we don't have intel about the national groups dissending on this like antifa by any means necessary. doesn't mean they're not here. we have had seen black block kids. i sayth that, because they look the part. no one carries a membership card. you cannot say that they are group. a guys black mask over their face. i so one could carry a hammer. i have seen several weapons out here. h s i can't say that they're all real weapons. one kid carrying what looked like an ak 47. i got a close look at it i think it was some kind of pellet gun.

whatever it was. it wasn't a real ak 47.e another kid carrying what looks like m-4. i didn't get a good look at it to tell if you it's authentic or not. i saw another kid with -- in fact, if you look at my twitter page, i posted the pictures of the kids with the handgun in his belt in the back. and some kid with some weird looking long gun, a bolt action type rifle. i can't telling if that's real or not. brian. >> brian: we will follow you throughout the day as you march with this group and as night falls people fear it's going to get really ugly. four minutes after the hour. we will monitor that and bring you developments as they happen with mike tobin himself or will car who is on the other side of the city. later on, nra spokesperson o dana loesch, will join us to talk about the protest and give you more details and background on this story that's been brewing for quite some time. now, to two big international stories that we woke up with today. especially on "fox & & friends" this morning. and it was, of course, the attack in london at about 8:20 local time and another missile launch by north

korea late thursday. first, we're going to go over to england,, where an explosion on a crowded subway train left dozens injured. kitty logan is live in london.ki kitty, we have been through this far too many times this year. >> yes. and yes again, brian, isis t has claimed responsibility for planting this device. although police here in london are treating that claim with somewhat a skeptical view.nd they are investigating the trail of the suspect and potential accomplice who left that bomb on the busy s commuter train this morning. as you say the device detonated 8:30 local time at the height of the rush hour. at that time, trains on that line are typically very crowded. there was panic as you can imagine also on the platform with eyewitness reports of people being trampled. witnesses also describe a flash and smoke and many of the 29 injured have burns. now, images of the device show wires protruding out of the plastic carrier bag which was used to transports it. police are calling this a terrorist incident and the

government held an emergencyal meeting in response.s british prime minister theresa may says the device could have cause significant harm. it is the fifth terror attack in the u.k. this year. today the prime minister announced the terror threat level will be increased to critical. that goes along with newl. figures yesterday indicating the number of terror arrests in this country were at its highest ever in the past year. police haven't released any details of a potential suspect in this attack. they are combing through those security cameras but tonight here in london police have assured us they are making good progress with this investigation and meanwhile more police and soldiers out on the streets, brian.ak >> brian: kitty, thank you so much. they are doing this by cutting back money spent on law enforcement, which is unfathomable. today is the fifth bombing incidents in the u.k. this year. what does that country do to deserve this type of attack d if anything or have they dropped their guard? douglas murray is the authorin

of this book, "the strange death of europe." and you write, doug, that europe is committing suicide. is this an example of it? >> i'm afraid i think it's just the latest chapter in what's going to be a very long and very bloody story. just also today it's worth just noting that there were two attacks in france. one a knife wielding attack on a soldier in paris and the other a hammer wielding attack shouting allah akbar who attacked two women on the street. we are getting sort of used to this in europe. but whether or not it's something we ought to welcome used to is another question. >> brian: of course, you shouldn't get used to it in fact, that's exactly what they want. you say this is not going to be a massive revolution of invading army. it's going to be a slow takeover of europe. if you get used to the knife attacks and subway explosions, that's exactly what they want. you are looking mostly at a second generation of immigrants. >> that's right. the phenomenon i described

in my book is just what i say -- the massive turnover of population in europe. basically completely openpo external borders and the absent internal borders in europe a lot of european governments, the british government isn't as bad as that. i this is some. a lot of european governments no idea who is in that country where they are from, who they are, what their affiliations are. we keep discovering time and time again, that the people who carry out attacks like the one today, the ones that are successful and the ones that aren't. people with background where o they are affiliated with terrorist groups. they have known people. they have been to training camps. they have come in and out of europe using migrant groups. all this sort of stuff. we have been warned about this for a long time. people like me have warned about consequences for a very long time. i just feel that we're going to keep on seeing this same thing replay again and again.

>> brian: i admired the british for keeping a stiff upper lip. and continued to march or they need to show more emotion this will not stand in order for their leaders to understand they will not have a job if this continues. >> yes.hi this is a very important point. we, in britain in particular, with the terrorists attacks we have had this year, i'm thinking like things like the manchester ariana grande attack. we now move very swiftly mercifully today's attack no dead. moving swiftly even over the dead to 24 to 48 hours getting on to the, let's not look back in anger, don't. it's almost as if we don't want to linger on what's happened and we want to move on and pretend it didn't happen that is because politicians and others are very weary of the public on this and understandably so. what they don't want to happen is for the public to turn around and say why is this happening to us? we didn't used to have -- we had other forms of terrorism. we had the ira terrorism.

we never had islamist terrorism like this in the past. why is this happening now? i think that the public should be asking those questions. we should be demanding answers. but, our political leaderser are very weary of that, because they know that this anger will be directed in various directions and one of them at some stage will be at the political leaders who brought this about. >> brian: you know, i couldn't care less about the leaders. i care about the people who want to get to work on the't subway and they end up being blown up or burned up. thanks so much, douglas murray. sadly, you predicted almost all of this in your book. let's change gears to the other story that i talked about at the top.. north korea's missile launch yesterday went further than any previous missile launch. fired by kim jong un's regime. experts say the missile's range suggest north korea now has the capacity to strike our island of guam, which is, by the way, which was threatened last time i had a chance to fill in for tucker on this show.w. c for reaction to the missile launch, we're now joins by a man who knows and understands the threat of north korea.no

he is harry casiania director at the center for national interests. f harry, how worried should american interests be in the region? how worried should south korea and japan be. >> brian, this is the greatest threat of our lifetime. this is the number oneur national security threat that the american people should be focused on. now, you mentioned just a minute ago that this missile proved that the north koreans are able to hit guam. i would actually argue that the north koreans are able to hit pretty much any u.s. base in asia, south korea, japan, and more than likely the u.s. homeland in a very crude capability. we have to keep in mind those last two icbm tests they did in the summer prove they have the range to hit the united states. now, we're a little weary in h terms of knowing if the telemetry works. if the guidance works. if the heat shield that would actually bring down the war head on a city all works. t but, if you put together all the different news reports, it looks like they are

pretty close in getting there. so we have to watch this very carefully and the president needs to respond with the toughest sanctions possible. >> brian: i know. right now why are looking at a lot of sanctions and some restrictions. but clearly not enough to get their attention. i want to bring you to what general macmaster said today when asked about military options. listen.. >> we ought to make clear what's different about this approach is that we are out of time, right? as ambassador haley said before, you know, we have been kicking the can out of road and we're out of road. for those who are said and commenting about the lack of a military option, there is a military option.n. >> brian: do you agree? >> well, brian, yes. what he said is true. we absolutely do have military options. the united states has a military that has a 600 billion-dollar annual budget. the north korean economy asl a whole is only worth 14 billion. so in terms of size, scale, capabilities, we can turn north korea basically into a parking lot if we wanted to. here's the problem. all the bombs in the world

are not going to solve the north korean dilemma. if we were to go in with a massive military strike, which would be the salute last option retaliation if they struck us or one of our allies first.t. we would be talking about a war that would probably involve nuclear weapons. keep in mind, we think the north koreans have as many as 16 nuclear weapons. >> brian: i get it what about taking it out on the tarmac. what about knocking it out of the air? what about that? >> the challenge is that the north koreans will likely respond.el i would argue that our besti strategy, brian, is old fashioned containment. if it worked for ronald reagan, if it worked for some different presidents toag continue the soviet union which was a much bigger military power and threat, that's the way to go here. we can do that.. >> brian: we can come up because we controlling any other exporting. i'm not convinced we can. they are a smuggling organization who happens to be mavericking themselves as a country. harry, thanks so much for your expertise.av >> thanks, brian.. >> brian: coming up straight ahead we take a breath. f

anthony bordain latest cnn figure to fantasize about the death of president trump. f we show you his unbelievable remarks that's okay with that network next. but, breaking news growing protests in st. louis at this hour after thee acquittal of a former police officer. his name jason stokely. we will keep watching those presses and bring you theg latest with will carr and mike tobin and more. ♪ u may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try parodontax toothpaste. ♪ ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.

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means they have to use forcece they can use force. demonstrators are protesting the acquittal of a former police officer in thero shooting death of a black man back in 2011. we will bring you the latest.. we have it wired with two reporters and others working for us on the ground as it happens.s. as night falls, that could get very, very dangerous. meanwhile, as we change gears and talk about our industry, some very liberal cnn personalities, who used to be cooks have a peculiarr habit of fantasizing about the president's violent death. first have you kathy griffin she posed with the president's severed head, it's hysterical, right? c now in video obtained by tmz.ar celebrity chef of parts unknown you know anthony bourdain very successful i should add said he would like to poison the president. >> if trump and moon have a summit and try to mend relations and they wanted you to cater, what would do you hemlock.

>> brian: it worked for socrates. joe concha writes for media outlet on "the hill." joe, your reaction to the latest death threat to thee, president or am i overstating it or is this a jovial reaction to tmz? >> people say lighten up. i get humor.. i'm a kid that as a teenagerht snuck into see eddie murphy, "raw." i totally get that let's play parallel universe. let's say brian kilmeade decided he was going to make a joke about poisoning president obama. how quickly do you think the petition would be out in seconds or in minutes for you to get fired? >> brian: it would be the 90 seconds. >> exactly. hypothetical aside. give a real life example. hank williams jr -- you remember him for decadesxa "monday night football." works for espn. couple years ago. >> brian: on "fox & friends." >> and on "fox & friends." >> brian: he did this on "fox & friends." >> i did not realize that i

have to youtube that when i gogo home. so you know what i'm going to say then that he compared president obama to hitler and espn immediately fired him, because as we know at espn if you compare a sitting president to any white supremacist or nazi you are going to get the hook unless your name is jemele hill.yo of course... >> brian: more on that in a second. >> all joking aside, what we're doing now if weekek after week, we are joking about assassinating a sitting president. it normalizes the conversation. you remember that missouri state senator she said on twitter i hope the president gets assassinated. you had snoop dogg do a mock shooting of a person that look like the president. we had johnny depp make jokes about assassinating the president. we had shakespeare in the park every day during the summer graphically stabbing a president.ze when you do it over and over again, it normalizes the narrative.ua in our situation in our society we should not be doing that brian brian i e agree with you. joe, the other part of me is this.

>> brian: i think we have gone so crazy with fire, suspend. we spend the whole day who and who went wrong unscripted situations like w this one we are not even ourselves anymore because we are concerned about how something might be misconstrued. do you see how we could go too far. or you think this does not fit the category? >> i agree anthony bore bourdain should not be fired or suspended. could reasonable people agree he should apologize or cnn. here's the problem for cnn. they have image problem right now. they are seen by trump supporters as the opposition network more than any other media network. that's why they rallies the chant goes over and over again.di when you have your hosts holding up severed heads like kathy griffin did. even though she is entertainment. >> brian: she did get fired. >> called the host a president a pos on twitter he got fired. bourdain i want to poison the president, final there is a pattern. trump supporters say, that makes

her point. that cnn is working against us and not trying to report on what we're doing even though we are not talking about journalists or reporters.al everyone gets lumped together and it's not fair. >> brian: five big stories and four are good for trumpha and one is bad. of the one that is bad leads. people say erroneously well that's fake news. we are not saying it didn't happen. we are saying it's disproportionate the way you are covering it this is an example of something i think at the very least say kidding. shouldn't have said. h it let's back up. >> not a lot to ask for. >> brian: as he says anthony bourdain i didn't like donald trump when he was just a billionaire. >> he says he has utter and complete contempt for him. he can say all that wants. >> brian: friday night, still go to the clubs. plenty of time. >> clubbing, huh? >> brian: that's what i'm thinking. doesn't everyone club in manhattan except for james. a >> i am going to go to limelight now. >> brian: i don't even know what that is i assume it's good. >> it was in a church years ago. he had murphy used to go there. >> brian: started with eddie murphy and that's how we end.

cnn isn't the only cable channel where hosts are getting overtly political. remember we have been talking about this all week espn's jemele hill, she remains at the network this hour despite a twitter tirade in which she labeled president trump and his t supporters as white supremacists. and yet she was not even suspended, and in fact, this is what the espn said tweeting this: espn is paying a really big price for its politics and bad programming. this is actually donald trump.og people are dumping it in record numbers. which is true, and they are firing people or laying them off because of that. apologize for the untruth, he says.g now, doug adler is a former espn commentator. he is suing the networks after they fired him for using a term called guerrilla meaning guerrilla warfare not animal in a zooea aggressive way screen miss venus williams was winning her match at the australian open. doug adler, you have been on the other side of this. where is the tolerance?ia >> brian, i don't know.

with regards to my situation it wasn't racially driven or politically driven. it was just all about professional commentary complementing venis' williams style of play and her tactics and about rightng and wrong. and, obviously, espn acted wrongly and unfairly. >> brian: you are on espn3, and doing australian open, andd talking about how aggressively she is plain. saying playing in guerrilla fashion. next day you or shockedd people took that wrong as if there was racial component to it next day you are gone after how many years? >> 10 years. i had done the australian open 10 years and french open with them as well. >> brian: this reminded me by the way you did a great job and nothing about this in your background and everybody knows it. g >> thank you. >> brian: people in the tennis community backed you

on that. venice williams didn't say you should be fired at all. bring you back to garrett on monday night football and howard cosell commentators he was one of the smaller wide receivers out smurfs with the redskins jump up and made incredible couch. he said look at that little monkey grab that ball like i did with my grandchildren. howard cosell was neverr racist. one of his tightest friends and confidantes was mohammed ali was dragged through the mud there.on didn't lose his job. you did. >> i know that affected cosell. in a very negative way. and myself, i had a heart attack. following the firing. i had to go on twitter and defend myself. what i never quite didn't understand and don't understand is i had thend relationship with espn. i had none of this in my background at all. furthest thing away from me. and espn bowed down to twitter and social media, who knew nothing about me?l

how could they do that? how could they not do their due diligence and speak up for me. if my name were john mcenroe or martina this never would have happened. >> brian: mike ditka did lose his job and curt schilling did lose his job. sadly, do you think politics plays a role in that even though this is slightly different? >> you know, i would hate to think that that's the case.. i don't even want to make an assumption because, youu know, a lot of people made assumptions about me. >> brian: okay. >> and they didn't know the first thing about me so theyey were wrong. so i just don't get it.we it doesn't make any sense. particularly when the peopleen at espn and my calling said they knew exactly, what i meant and referring to and complement to venice's style of play. >> brian: do you think it's corporate america? do you think it's sponsors putting pressure on corporations like disney that own espn that say make

the change. i'm seeing the backlash on my product and advertisers? my bottom line is affected? i don't care about the future of one sportscaster who happens to be great at calling tennis and other sports?t >> that would be really sad if that be the case. it's certainly a culture being manifested at espn. c and for someone like myself, i mean, you wonder, where the loyalty is. i'm a professional. and espn is listening to amateurs. it just doesn't make any sense. and that's why i'm in a lawsuit. where else can i go to get a racist? and get my career back?s i mean, this is the career i love. this is my passion. i was working at another job in my early 40s and i gave that up. i was making a bunch of money to pursue my passion and it worked out great. and look at where i am today. >> brian: doug, your fight is a fight for a lot of people. people support you and most of all your family and

friends know you. so don't let it get to who you are. and keep fighting back. and coming on shows like this. >> brian, a pleasure to meet you. i think you do a wonderful job, and thank you for the opportunity to present my side. >> brian: all right. doug, still fighting. meanwhile, and by the way we are all one mistake from being in his same spot. it feels like a century ago but sean spicer has only been gone from the trump white house for a couple of months. in fact, he was working after we thought he left. coming up, sean spicer will join us for his first prime time news interviews sincein leaving the administration. plus, protests heating up at this hour in st. louis after a former cop was acquitted of the death of a 24-year-old black man. dana loesch will be here to weigh in. ♪ for their own frequent heartburn. and all day, all night protection.

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hard to tell right now exactly where they are coming from. but they have been protesting since 9:00 a.m. this morning. all throughout the streets of st. louis. and right now they are actually trying to get on interstate 64. but the police throughout the course of the day have done a very good job of stopping the protesters. i want to show you this. this on all the access ramps to get onto the interstate you can see the police have shut it down here. now, a big problem, brian, is that behind us you can see is the barnes jewish hospital. these protesters just walked down, they shut down two sides of the street behind us, creating a potential safety issue. ambulances have been coming through. they would not have been able to get through. now you can see the protesters are coming across the street into open traffic over here. again, trying to get on to interstate 64 and as we are moving across here, can you see the officers are in a fluid position. it looks like they did not have this side covered. i see four covered officers. can you see a state trooper pulling up right now.

as all of these protesters try to converge on the interstate. this is something they have been trying to do all day long to get on to an interstate and shut it down. so as we continue to walk here, can you see police officers now shutting down this off ramp. and it looks like the protesters are coming through to see if they can actually get on the interstate. brian? >> brian: all right, will, thanks. i knew when the darkness set in the violence could eventually heat up. one of the reasons why the interstate is shut down there is more control, is because your governor is a former navy seal. he knows how to secure a perimeter. thanks so much. meanwhile, let's go to dana loesch she is a radio host nra spokesperson and does a great job as a radio host. you are very familiar with this case, dana. for those who are just understanding it as a national story, bring us back. it was 2011 when 24-year-old lamar smith was running from cops in his car, high speed chase ensued.

evidently, he had a gun with him. when a cop was in pursuit, he was actually caught on camera, one of those body cams saying when i capture this guy i'm going to kill him." when he did catch up to him, five shots were fired, and he said that was proof that the shooting was premeditated. but there seems to be more to this case, at least that's what the jury found. >> well, that's what the judge had determined, absolutely. brian, it's good to be with you. speaking just personally and as a st. louis native, not as an organization at the moment. this is my hometown. i live blocks from the courthouse where the protests began. right now they are in central west end. there is a confluence of highway that dumps out into barnes jewish hospital right there. that's dangerous if you start shutting down highways, arteries to other parts of the city. that's a big hospital there. they have lot of people coming. that is really dangerous. nobody has the right to shut down a highway as for this case, this officer in

question, jason stockely, the prosecutors had to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not act in self-defense. he claimed that he did. this all began when him and his partner came on what they said was a drug exchange. this individual, anthony lamar smith he is a prohibitive possessor. he has a long record for being a drug dealer, heroin. we have opioid, i can't even talk. opioid epidemic right now in the united states. he also had an illegally possessed handgun. comes into a church's chicken parking lot. they see something going down. they approach the car. the guy, anthony lamar smith at that point, brian, and there is video of this, backs out and attempts to mow down the officers. now, that's assault with a deadly weapon. and then the officers give chase, as you mentioned, high speed chase through downtown st. louis and ultimately ended tragically with this man's death. a tragedy that could have been avoided. you don't run down police officers. you don't sit in the parking lot of a restaurant and deal dope, and then, of course, according to the testimony

of this officer and his partner as well, there had been apparently an illegally possessed handgun. there were also apparently drugs in the vehicle as well. there are two really good questions here. and i completely agree with questioning them. it does not prove premeditated murder that was the prosecutor's responsibility in this case. they failed to do that beyond a reasonable doubt. what he said in the car completely -- absolutely ask questions. and, brian, the fact that he had his own personal firearm with him in the backseat of the car, that was against the police department policy. that's why he was suspended earlier because of those two things. >> brian: of course. the accusation was that the police put the gun in the car to justify the shooting. also brought up in the case for the defense was, well, it's logical for a guy with heroin, who dealt heroin who have a gun. it would be unusual for them not to have a gun and then they cried that's race-related. that's a racial conclusion, which i don't see that being race-related. as a herion user, that just to me is what is a usual pattern. >> to point out, brian, he

had a record for illegal possession of a firearm before. that's why he was on parole. so he was already on parole look, you don't use past evidence to convict someone in the present. you don't use past record it is an indicator of what they are going to do in the future. >> brian: you remember the damage done in ferguson. i hope the police are able to be empowered to protect their city. they seem to be. they seem to be much more organized. i was speaking with dave glover on my affiliate, i think you are familiar with. he says he fears a lot for tomorrow. there is going to be a u2 concert on saturday and ed shearn on sunday. big crowds and all the cameras. they feel as though they are organized enough online and coming from out of state. talked to people from south carolina. he thinks the worst is yet to come if not tonight over the weekend. >> it could very well happen. it would be a great opportunity for them to get more media attention. and, look, here's the thing. shutting down highways. i'm really curious, there are some people bussed in from out of town. brian, you and i talked about this with regard to ferguson there were some people bussed in to ferguson.

if wants all of these individuals want to claim there is something wrong with the system. why don't they vote? why was voter turnout so bad in st. louis. half of the people aren't aware of the judges running like the judge brian who gave the decision in this case. it wasn't a jury trial. it was this judge's decision. nobody was even aware you could vote for or against these individuals. don't claim there is something wrong with the system when your lack of a vote shapes that system. you were part of that system. you have to participate in your community. that's a huge problem here. i hope there is peace tomorrow. i hope that people can solve this civilly. i pray for my city. >> brian: i will say, too. two reporters which i spoke to, one of which was dave. he said he was more fearly as night fell on this day than he was at any time during ferguson. and if we put up some of the video from ferguson. we know how bad that got. >> yeah. it got very bad, indeed. i think as you mentioned there was a cardinal's baseball game earlier today. have you two huge concerts that are coming up. of course, right there by

all of the local media departments, right there by the stadium, by everything, it's a great place to get media attention. that's what individuals want. they want media attention. you know, look, sometimes the verdicts don't go your way. sometimes people, if you want to talk about justice, let's talk about the justices somebody who has been a drug dealer and a prohibited possessor. don't run down cops and you don't have people who roads their lives, period. >> brian: dana, your impression and i'm putting you on a spot to a degree. i remember the two big racial incidents that happened with president obama with trayvon martin he said trayvon could be my son and remember when he had an incident with that professor that cambridge professor, when he said the police acted stupidly from the white house. what do you think the best role for the president in something like this when this is his first taste of racial unrest? i could not say the first taste. >> not really the first taste of it. honestly, you know, i don't know why the president would weigh in on this particular situation.

because this isn't a white house issue. this isn't a federal government issue. this is an issue of a community that needs to come together and talk with their law enforcement agencies. this is a community that needs to stand up. this is a community, look, i lived in st. louis, i live blocks from the arch. i had a drug den open up just blocks from me. i had one open up on the end of my street before i left st. louis. the problem is that racial disparity -- the problem is a political party that has ran this city into a hole in the ground, brian. that's the problem with st. louis. the problem is the opportunity that is swindled from st. louis city residents by these democrat party leaders by race baiters. by these hustlers, who are bussed in from out of town. look a what they do from my city, my hometown, and i'm proud to be from auto st. louis. it infuriates me. it needs to stop. they have got to come together and stop. >> brian: i hear your passion. keep the monitor up in your studio. we are going to go out to mike

tobin now as this grows. mike, where are you? >> i'm on the exit ramp of highway 64. and a tense situation here was just diffused. you can see the cops with the riot gear at the ready they had a big crowd try to get up here and get on the highway. that's really where you often see a conflict begin. that's where the line is drawn. they don't like people shutting down the interstate for all the obvious reasons. have ambulances up there trying to go to the hospital. et cetera, et cetera. they don't like them on the highway. protesters will hurt themselves. they came up here. there was a big crowd. looked like they were ready for pushing and shoving, and hats off to the police because the situation got diffused. most of that crowd now has gone up on to this hill. and what they are doing right now is mostly just hanging around. you see. so people right here taunting the police. pretty typical of the kind of things we have heard many times before. you have a tense situation out here. thus far we have seen what i would call minimal violence -- rocks and bottles and that happened earlier in the day. >> brian: mike, paint the picture for me. we saw the ferguson shots. you were there during at love the ferguson things.

law enforcement as the community of st. louis, as their law enforcement empowered to act? >> you know, it's tough, because you would have to be inside of the meetings. one thing i know from law enforcement communities is they don't want to repeat the same mistakes they had in ferguson. with all the bad optics that got some people so fired up, sometimes they were hands off and sometimes they were hands on, and the saying was they had a checklist of things you shouldn't do and they ran right down the checklist last time in the run-up to ferguson. this time, you see the police are trying to stay back as much as they can until the demonstrators come up to a line like trying to get on the interstate, and they draw the line there don't let them on the interstate. when they're marching just on the city streets, cops let them go. >> brian: mike, is there a sense that you get that just being in st. louis for a short time, and i'm reading about the case, catching up to it that justice was served today or justice was not served today? or does it depend on where

you're from? >> clearly among these people, they believe justice was not served. you would have to go through and you read through judge wilson's order. you want to say something? come here. >> sure. >> the question is do you feel justice was served today. >> absolutely not. it's ridiculous to me. have you got black cops standing there and their [bleep] kids. >> i will talk to you but clean it up. >> i apologize. >> their kids are being killed in the streets, and you got white cops, who don't care about them, who are literally just standing there, and they know it. they want to be on this side but they can't because the money in being in a job is worth more than this. and that's ridiculous. >> brian: he is saying he believes these cops are there against their will? that's his impression? >> that's a good point. do you think the cops are here against their will or they believe in their jobs? >> i think it's a mixture of both. i don't think that all cops are bad. but there are certain sides

of history, and if you look around at what has happened, not only here in st. louis in baltimore, all over, it's more than a job. >> someone breaks into your house tonight, what do you do. >> not calling the cops. >> not calling the cops. >> no. >> how are you going to handle that? >> it doesn't matter how i'm going to handle it. i don't trust people, who will shoot people in the back and stand out here with riot gear while people who are trying to peacefully protest. yes. >> it wasn't peaceful. you saw the rocks and bottles earlier. you were there at the police department. >> i was not at the police department. i have been on the central west end the whole time. no one has ever gotten violent here. >> there hasn't been a violent response. >> i just don't understand why. >> they are not letting you on the interstate. you will could get hit by a car out. >> there what i'm just saying if you look at video, one of the cops has already hit me with a car and i don't understand that. >> were you standing in front of the car? >> no. i was walking with them down kings highway from the back, stopped, pulled out, walked to other cops. people had to run by me, grab me so i wouldn't do anything.

>> thanks for cleaning up when we were talking to you. good luck tonight. be safe. >> there is one opinion. a lot of people, of course, who were out here feel justice wasn't served. if you look through the judge's order, he believes there was not an indication that the gun was planted in this case. he believes justified use of force. reasonable assumption of this police officer when dealing with urban heroin dealer to assume that he would be armed at the time. all in the judges order. and that's a big part -- now you are stepping forward. do you want to talk? do you feel there was justice? >> first things first no, i don't. first things first, let's just get this out of the way. you mean to tell me that it's a complete video, a video of the dude shooting him. not only shooting him, not even with a police issued weapon? >> the question is not whether he shot him. the question is whether it's justified. >> it's not justified. >> why. >> it's premeditated. it's premeditated. you came after him -- >> premeditated, why,

because of the statements that were caught on the dash cam? >> i wanted to step up, my bad, man, i wanted to step up for this. what you said was is an urban heroin dealer. if it was a suburban heroin dealer? >> i'm just going off the judge's order. >> i know what you are saying. >> if it was a suburban heroin dealer -- >> brian: hey, mike, i think that he just -- tell him to stay there for one second. here's my question. >> one second. one second. we have a question for you. >> brian: does he believe if the driver was white, the 24-year-old driver was white, running from the cops with a gun and heroin, with a background, do you think he would have been shot? i think that's the drilling down to this? >> do you believe same set of circumstances a guy with a bunch of priors, running from the cops, rammed a couple of vehicles, he was white, the situation would be different? >> i believe that they would have came after him. i definitely believe they would have tried to bring them in alive. that's my firm belief.

i feel like outside, they actually pulling a gun, no. he would have -- they would have brought him in. i am on camera. i can occurs. they are going to beat the sleeves off of him. it would have been a stand off. they would have done whatever they had to do to get them. >> what's your name, pal. >> wayne, man. >> be safe tonight. >> indeed. >> brian: mike... >> did you a great job. >> brian: there is two perspectives on the same incident. i think if you could get people to talk about it instead of throwing rocks, putting on masks, and going after cops, especially get a law enforcement there because i'm under the opinion that 99% of the law enforcement people that i know, they are the last people to ever want to be involved in a situation like this. whip out a gun in a situation like this. but when you act as if you have something to hide, run from the cops, but before do you that, you try to run them over, and you have a gun and have you drugs, that's the circumstances. i don't believe that skin

color entered into this from the cops i know. i'm sitting here as a white guy telling you my perspective. but i would take that guy's perspective any day, because he is calm, cool and calculated. somehow we have got to bridge that gap on the different impressions on the same circumstance that race plays a role. >> well, that's an interesting point, brian. i think there is a lot -- it's funny with awful these communication platforms and communication devices that seems that everyone just stands back and shouts at each other and everybody is trying to say that perfect thing that puts someone else down and everyone is raising their hackels up and we don't have too much coherent conversation like we just had here tonight. that did seem to diffuse it. we started with a guy who was angry, he heard of the mention that he was a urban heroin dealer and somehow that would justify the death penalty. that wasn't the point at all. he got his point out and walked away with a handshake. >> brian: good job, mike. thanks so much. we will stay with mike tobin and will carr on either side of this protest and what are law enforcement thinking

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>> brian: sean spicer spent whirl wind of six months as >> brian: sean spicer was in a world while in the white house come and helped him become the present. he seems to be enjoying his m retirement. , mr. sean spicer, now that we see you as a civilian once agai again, now that you've had a chance to look back at the six months and were, what are your thoughts? >> first, thank you for having me. it's nice to spend my day with brian, and ended with brian. it was a great opportunity.n i really feel it is an honor. for most americans, the opportunity to visit the

white house is something that is allusive. to have the honorable worked there every day i want to that gate, and know you're working to enhance the president's agenda and serve the american people is an honor that so few people have, and i will cherish it forever. that being said, it is nice to be able to have some time with my family. >> brian: i know you'll be making making speeches, that is part ofat it.f from the many people you are talking to, what is your next goal? >> i've had as you mention to sit down with some folks and share some of my experiences with different individuals. that is well stating the bulk of myto time. there's a lot of opportunity. i have been blessed and hope to continue to sort through that. and give back a little bit. to some causes that i feel a passionate about. i hope to be able to spend some time doing good on the outside with causes that are worthy. >> brian: you have gone from a

republican circle to now internationally known as the press secretary. one of the most unique presidents in our history. there is that happened since you left to get your take. yout avoided this, but you can answer now. it seems like susan rice has finallyik admitted that devon nunez was saying was true. she did unmask high level trump campaign workers. guys like steve bannon, general flynn as well as jared kushner. she said it was done, because the prince from that uae. mean to you?om that uae. >> it deftly raises a lot of questions asn you noted on your radio show today. she was very clear at the beginning with the public comments back in march, that should not engage in this kind of behavior, and modified it for local purposes. as we continue to learn it more and more of the story, facing a lot of questions, why did she find the need to do that?

who else did she do it with chemic what did she do with that information, who did she share with? what we found out today, and certainly vindicates a lot of concerns that the president had early on and raises a ton of additional questions. >> brian: 91% of the press coverage, that the president has got over the past seven months has been negative. b how much has been unfair? >> that seems like a high number. a low number. to me too. >> brian: what do you think is unfair? >> i think that is somewhere in there. with the questions -- the bias that exists in the coverage has occurred fromde this president n the position that most reporters take on a daily basis in the white house, it is not healthy for the relationship to exist. i think will be critical. it is another thing to be inherently negative. one of the most indefensible.

>> brian: sean spicer, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. a couple more minutes, but i want to go to breaking news in st. louis. we are taking you back to the streets of st. louis or not. we will go over to will carr who is down in the middle of that group. well? is this growing as the night sets, will? >> 30 minutes go by, and two groups converge to create this massive group that we have out here. we were able to get on the interstate 64. as soon as a double back, they were in front of the hospital. they have taken up both sides of the street, which covered two emergency routes. and a police escort trying to separate all of these people trying to get through. there is a real safety concern when they get in front of the hospital. one thing you also do not see on boarded upou also do not see on windows. that is because this started and downtown where businesses were boarded up all the windows.

concern. ferguson is 20 minutes north. some of the business owners there boarded up their windows, because they were concerned that they would go to their community. n they will are now planning for this to come here. we see law enforcement shipped throughout the day. they have let all these l protesters to demonstrate, to be peaceful. we saw people jumping on a police car, kicking in the windchill. that is when the police officer stepped in. at this point, shows no cap signs of letting up. we will be out here continuing to go with them and see exactly how things will shake out for the rest of the night. >> brian: will carr, right in the middle of the action. so far, it has not been violent. although there has been four police officers being assaulted. the "the five" will pick up where we left off. talk it will be back on monday. of course you can catch me on "fox & friends" monday through friday on fox news talk. have a nice weekend everybody.

by the way, keep it here. when we come back, with this channel, "the five" will be right back out to st. louis and give you the latest on north korea as well is what is happening in london. i am brian kilmeade. ms. berly: hello. i'm kimberly guilfoyle with juan williams, jesse watters, jillian turner and greg gutfeld. it's 9:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> this is the fox news alert. protesters are taking to the streets tonight in st. louis. after a police officer was >> after a police officer was acquitted of murder after shooting a black suspect. he shot anthony lamar smith back in u 2011. joining is now more from st. louis. >> were catching up from the demonstrators right