great week and we will see you next fox news sunday. ♪ howie: president trump pushes an immigration deal with the democrats. he's hammered by the conservative media. >> i'm asking you who voted for him. is he this tone deaf? does he not know what got him elected? i'm telling you some of the staunchest trump supporters are out there and they jumped ship. >> republican leadership in congress, they have failed miserably and at every turn. >> for sure the hard-core trump supporters and the conservatives are very disappointed because they think this is a step away,

migration away from campaign promises and that the wall is in jeopardy. howie: has the wall become symbolic. >> this is great. it's bipartisanship. howie: are the president and his conservative critics heading for a divorce? hillary clinton blaming the media including fox as she makes the tv round to promote her book on why she lost. >> when it comes to the self-inflicted wounds and you go through them in the book. did you make enough of them to cause the loss? >> i would say no, matt. >> you hold and breathe through one and hold it, then you exhale to the other and keep going.

howie: are the anchors giving her a pass. >> the republican establishment. >> wants to nullify the 2016 election, absolutely. howie: will the former white house advisor hold on to the spotlight. howie: the white house says denouncing the president as a white sum * i -- awhite white supremacist is a firing offense. the president has chuck and nancy over for dinner to discuss

immigration. >> we are not look at citizenship, we are not look at amnesty. we are looking at allowing people to stay here. we are working with republicans and democrats. howie: "breitbart" posted a headline that became a trending hashtag, amnesty done. shannon pettypiece, katie pavlich, and joe trippi, democratic strategist and fox news contributor. shannon, the mainstream media says he's figuring out the job and growing in office. is this what happens when a rookie president moves towards the democrats. katie: remember when the president said he could go out

on fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose a vote. but this week he learned he has to build that wall if he wants to keep the conservative media on his side. has he pivoted? i will only believe a change or pivot when i see it. i think the media cover tends to twinge overreaction. but the president is feeling out this turf and bringing in a third party into the negotiations. which is a classic understatement. howie: let me throw some of these tweets up. and coulter saying if we are not getting a wall, i prefer president pence. laura ingraham said build the wall, build the wall, or maybe not really. can this marriage be saved?

katie: a majority of the country think daca should be passed but through congress constitutionally and not through the executive branch which is what the president has argued. the wall is something that was promised repeatedly and channeled at rallies. their issue is we have seen this movie before. we have been promised for 30 years to have border security in return for amnesty. it has never worked because amnesty always comes first. howie: the president says it's not amnesty. do some of your colleagues in the conservative media feel betrayed. katie: if you look at what the president said on the campaign trail it's the opposite of what he's doing now. howie: the president telling

chuck schumer in a phone call that fox was praising him and msnbc. joe: this too shall pass. regardless of the hype that comes with when the president changes course. the media overreacts. i think in the end though what we see repeatedly is three days later this may not be the way -- that's how the coverage and the president has been throughout. howie: senator schumer saying he likes us, he likes me at least. the wisdom in washington was schumer and pelosi are irrelevant. the democrats do seem to have a seat at the table. shannon: they are getting the

media attention. if you go to the hill the democrats walk by and the reporters ignore them. now they want to know what chuck and nancy want to say. it has made them relevant and given them a seat at the table. they can go to their constituents and say we worked with the president and helped protect these 800,000 dreamers. it's not too much to lose at this point. but they may have a difficult path. howie: churk is from brooklyn and donald is from queens so they speak the same language. are some of his conservative media supporters justifying this because they want to support the president, by going after mcconnell and ryan, and turning their ire on republican

leadership that hasn't produced for them on the hill? katie: it's fair to criticize mcconnell and ryan. but it's not mitch mcconnell and paul ryan calling for the impeachment of donald trump. though nancy pelosi and chuck schumer have stopped short of that. but if they had a majority in the house and senate they wouldn't stop their members from moving forward on impeachment. i don't think it will be a long standing issue. he has to decide whether chuck and nancy are negotiating in good faith. based on their background they probably are not. i think it's fair to criticize them for their failures, but i don't think it's fair to say nancy and chuck are better

negotiators than they are. joe: the conservative media has been saying it's the establishment republican party that's got in the way of the trump agenda. it's a way to go after them again. it's their fault he had to go to the democrats. howie: what about liberal media. some of the pundits on your side are saying let's be careful. >> i think the democrats will get the wrong side of that deal. because in the end i think it will turn out this president can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and get away with it in terms of his base. i'm not sure. it's interesting bannon and some of the others are pushing against this. howie: you just went viral. trippi justifies trump homicide.

the president seems to be speaking more to the press when he went to florida. he had a mini press conference on air force one. and he thanked the media in florida. is he softening on the whole fake news thing? >> i don't know. take one week and use it to judge any sort of shift. howie: this sounds like you have been burned. shannon: i do feel he's trying to be his own messenger a bit more. he's always been involved in communications and the message. as his circle has tightened and there is less noise from the outside, general kelly now chief of staff is controlling the flow of information.

he's trying to find his voice and be his own messenger. howie: msnbc focusing on what i call b -stories about russia. when it gets a lot of prime time coverage and wondering if russia is a false setting. katie: it's a legitimate story given flynn's close connections to the white house. mike flynn's son never worked in the white house. mike flynn worked there briefly. he wasn't working in the white house as a full-time government staffer. howie: when the media tweets every russian detail and say it's a big deal. joe: everything cannot be 10 on the richter scale.

all these stories are legitimate but are being overhyped and too much focus. but we have seen with irma -- actually irma and harvey, those two hurricanes i think got some normalcy to the coverage. we are covering real news events and slipping away from the russian stories that got pushed off. >> and we covered the president's role in the hurricanes. let us know what you think. why hasn't espn lifted a finger against the host who called the against the host who called the president a white supremacist

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howie: steve bannon is making lots of news after leaving the white house. he had a 60-minute sit-down with charlie rose. >> america was in thize of so many people and it's what people respect america for. people have been able to come here, finds a place, contribute to the economy. that's what immigration has been in america. and you seem to want to turn around and stop it. >> you couldn't be more dead wrong. america was built on her citizens. charlie that's beneath you. howie: steve bannon says he will be trump's wingman at

"breitbart." but is it. heful when he says the republican establishment is trying to nullify the election. katie: he's trying to put pressure and mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. the rnc has gone full donald trump. they hired people to be their spokes people. only establishment that steve bannon thinks is left is on capitol hill. so his goal is to push them into this corner and will probably be talking to the white house about how to get this democrat-republican cat and mouse thing done. howie: bannon has deep ties in the conservative media. he made it clear he's going after paul ryan, and jared kushner and others in the white house. is he a force to be reckoned

with? joe: absolutely. this is quintessential steve bannon. he wants to tear down the establishment. howie: he said it himself. joe: it's about his desire to break the whole thing up. that's what that interview sort of conveyed. howie: how do you think charlie rose did. shannon: charlie rose as his certain style of interviewing people. howie: he was a little more aggressive in that exchange on immigration. shannon: he was well prepared and knew where things were going. and he got interesting lines and observations out of him. the catholic church. howie: how successful has bannon been as relaunching himself? the country didn't know who steve bannon was, now he gets

two segments on "60 minutes." shannon: i think he's doing a good job relaunching himself and being his own force to rival almost the president with the amnesty don headline and hashtag on twitter. he's a force to be reckon. with, and the white house is going to realize steve bannon's loyalties are to his idealogies and his movement. and not the president. he's not someone who has been loyal to president trump for 20 years. his loyalty is to self and his message. katie: steve bannon expects the president to keep his fashionalist, populist campaign promises. with this seemingly getting daca through congress first before building the wall narrative, border security comes second. that changed over there at

"breitbart." it's about making sure the campaign promises are kept and they are willing to hold the white house accountable and go after his enemies on that and other things. howie: thanks for joining us. espn says a sports host calling donald trump bigot is appropriate. did anyone ask hillary clinton a hard question, what happened? i was wondering if an electric toothbrush really cleans... ...better than a manual, and my hygienist says it does. but... ...they're not all the same. turns out, they're really... ...different. who knew? i had no idea. so, she said look for... ...one that's shaped like a dental tool with a round... ...brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head surrounds each tooth to... ...gently remove more plaque and... ...oral-b crossaction is clinically proven to... ...remove more plaque than sonicare diamondclean. my mouth feels so clean. i'll only use an oral-b!

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rant. she called the president a white supremacist and that he largely surrounds himself with white supremacists. espn says she has been talked to and understands her actions are inappropriate. sarah huckabee-sanders had a harsher take from the white house podium. >> that's one of the most of outrageous comments someone could make and is a fireable offense from espn. howie: joining me is jared max. what do you think as a former espn employee for taking no action against jemele hill for calling the president of the united states among other things, a white supremacist.

>> in a week where we have seen espn issue a statement that separated itself from jemele hill's personal stance and jemele hill saying this is not espn beliefs, these are my beliefs, the actions still show espn condones her behavior, because to our knowledge she has not been suspended or terminated. howie: a slap on the wrist and not even that. when jemele hill says these are her personal views on twitter. when you worked for espn what were you told about popping off on social media. >> the first day at espn i was called into my boss' office and told you are no longer jared max. you are espn's jared max. if you do anything side, you are espn's jared max. further there have been different policies issued by

espn before the presidential election as well as one early this year that clearly stipulate, do not insert your personal political opinionen do not take disparaging pot shots at political foes. howie: there was a briefing where reporters pressed her about saying it was a firing offense. >> does that mean he's willing to apologize for birther claims he called on for years. >> way wasn't talking about a private company but an individual. howie: some journalists are making the white house the issue. >> these are uncharted times. when i first got into broadcasting 20 years ago.

i kept a sign up in my studio that said no race, no religion, no politics. what i find interesting here. i'll talk about science. i was a c and d student in signs. but i remember this one. for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. colin kaepernick kneels for "the national anthem." reaction? 32nfl owners decide he's not good for business. what happens? there is a rally outside the nfl offices in my opinion trying to bully the nfl into giving colin kaepernick a job who is clearly not good for business. what does espn do? they have aligned themselves separate from jemele hill, while jemele hill has been aligned with colin kaepernick and reggie

miller. now if espn takes disciplinary action against her, what is the backlash? howie: the mainstream media didn't cover this until the white house weighed in which i found interesting. espn's ombudsman weighed in and said jemele hill made a mistake and said conservatives don't feel comfortable with it. what do you think about espn's positioning? >> there is a lot of talk about lean together left. people forget the media is comprised of individuals. when you give this person a large stage they can be mistaken of having the voice of the network. she still has the tweets on twitter and has not removed them. actions speak, word don't.

those tweets about our president are still there it's outrageous when you consider many others have lost their jobs and been suspended for much less. howie: what amazes me is espn doesn't seem concerned that it's alienating sports fans who don't share jemele hill's opinion. the troubling omission in a cbs report largely defending the consumer protection board. ed henry why the coverage doesn't look like donald trump is become a more

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hurricane harvey hit texas, it was the first major disaster test for president trump. and now hurricane irma. and no one has said whether he passed the test. ed: you and i were talking about this before harvey hit. two storms, this has never happened in natural disaster response history. you and i were talking about stories like this. august 25, the stakes could be exceedingly high. few events test the administration and have such political risk. nobody has come back and said the president did pretty good. it's anti-trump almost everything. when he does a good job, they can't say that was a pretty good job. that what make the legitimate criticism of the mistakes he

does make sound a lot more credible. howie: i haven't seen the president picking as many fights on twitter or denouncing the press as row i hav. but we don't see many stories that say trump seems to be settling down. ed: you see a lot of stories saying he's angering his conservative base. the hard right can't take this. when you talk to people they are frustrated about this normalized presidency not taking on the swamp as much in their view. some of the president's supporters don't like the idea of a calmed down presidency. they don't like general john kelly making it more calm.

howie: all the chaos narrative helps boost ratings. ed: every time there is a minor screw-up at the white house they say what happened to the managing executive. howie: the demented people in the sights of scosland yard. then this morning the president retweeted a brief video clip. let's take a look. it's just goofy. this is the kind of thing the president does that makes even his supporters say what's i doing. he will still tweet about crooked hillary. who cares about hillary clinton.

he won and the democrats are frustrated about this book tour. howie: i am sure a lot of the president's supporters think that's funny. ruth martin from the washington supposed tweeted he thinks hitting women is funny. ed: he brings in this kid frank, 11 years old to mow the lawn. you have a former "new york times" reporter tweeting, there could be child labor law issues here. this sends a bad signal. what does this teach people of about the minimum wage. if barack obama invited a kid to mow the lawn they would say it was the greatest thing, he loves kid. howie: when bob mueller was appointed special counsel, he berated jeff sessions, called him an idiot, said he should

resign, and he submitted a resignation that wasn't accepted. according to current and former officials. ed: sean spicer is out on this tour. there are people who are frustrated. bannon goes on 60 minutes. howie: leaks are still a problem. ed: bigger than leaks is is there anything there. you can drip drip on the mueller deal. but people close to him that i talked to believe by the end of the year they will have some sort of resolution that the president is not in the cross-hairs of this investigation. they may be wrong, but they are hopeful. if they can get some sense the mueller is not going directly after the president for obstruction of justice these leaks won't matter much. howie: coming up, hillary clinton calls fox a dedicated

propaganda channel. but she doesn't much like the liberal media either.

howie: hillary clinton is on a tv blitz to promote her book "what happened?" >> you talk about sexism in the

book. do you think it's harder for mayor cans to elect a woman than an african-american man? >> having through your own political version of the trump ringer, do you have any advice for his staff? >> this is a man who engages in humiliation and domination as a tactic of control. >> because of russia's role, do you have think there should be an asterisk next to president trump's name in the history books? >> i don't know, we don't have all the facts yet. howie: joining us, gayle trotter and emily tisch sussman. jane pauly, rachel maddow would you say have been sympathetic or trying to pin her down.

gayle: they have been largely sympathetic. particularly in one episode anderson cooper in the interview was listening to hillary clinton tell him about how russian spies no longer dress in black and sneak into people's offices, but they are able to sit in their military head kawrtr quarters and break into computers. that would have been a perfect time for anderson to say what about your season secure server that was accessible. do you have think that played into what happened in the election. but he didn't. emily: there was an entire chapter in her book called "my emails." this is her account of the election. it's an historic election on many counts including the fact it was the first time a major

party nominated a woman. howie: what we are trying to focus on is the way in which anchors dealt with her. i to the "today show" interview was the toughest. didn't she get a pretty easy ride? emily: you can't go five minutes in the media without seeing somebody's account of what happened in this election. someone's analysis. i think it's fair for her to go on a tour giving her analysis. grilling her for what. she is never going to run for office again. this is her moment in the media to have that account. i do think they went in. she was so honest in her book about so many things played over and over again in the media. what would it add to go in and reshash those. howie: if she says in the book,

yes, i take responsibility, then why wouldn't an anchor say what about that, or press her on her argument? gayle: i would disagree with emily. there was nothing news worthy in her book. this would have been the perfect opportunity for journalists to drill down and get something news worthy. they are not doing the democratic party a service. this is the 2012 autopsy where the rnc tried to understand how they lost the election to obama. this would be an opportunity for judy woodruff to drill down on that and get something beyond the talking points hillary clinton repeats ad nauseam. the amount of coverage devoted to comey, everybody knows how they weigh these things. howie: emily, you seem to think

hillary clinton was candid in her book but you seem to feel anchors don't have the obligation to press her. do you think mitt romney would have gotten that treatment if he wrote a book after the election. emily: i think she has a right to be candid. for every interview i have seen with her, she comes across as incredibly genuine. she is speak what she thinks happened in the election. and i think the anchors are responding to that. again, they are journalists. they are not invested in what happens in the democratic party. howie: hillary says in the back to fox leads a right-wing war and truth. she is mad at the "new york times." so she doesn't much like the liberal media either.

>> she doesn't. she plays the victim instead of being like margaret thatcher who waltz iron lady. but she is playing the victim. when the journalists ask her these tough questions that benefits the democratic party and the american political system. "glamour" magazine when they wrote an article asking whether hillary was correct that white women voted for trump because their husbands pushed them on that. howie: she seems to be ticked off at much of the media. emily she said one -- emily: she said there was one rumor in particular repeat on fox. if we are talking about what happened in this election, the media played a huge piece in it.

howie: emily tisch sussman and gayle trotter. thank you. howie: a cnn anchor cuts the nuke when a sports anchor gets too graphic.

howie: clay travis was on cnn talking about the uproar about the espn host. >> i believe in the first amendment and boobs. once they made the decision. >> i want to make sure i heard

you correctly as a woman anchoring the show. >> boobs. >> i'm done. bye. howie: he sounded like a boob. he has been boasting about this silly stunt. but baldwin was right to dump him. it seemed like a good idea for a future segment sarah huckabee-sanders and her dad. everyone knows the day-time show is liberal. what kinds of advice did your today the give you. we saw this assault on sarah's boss. >> the media is not supposed to report on the facts that 95% of what he said is a lie?

>> you are doing exactly what we are talk about and pushing a false narrative. >> you defend those lies every day. >> i completely disagree with the fact that what you are saying is only 5% of it is true. howie: the former got governor wasn't spared either. he has said horrifying things about women. you know it's true. having said that, how can you let your daughter defend them. >> he also empowered a lot of women. he has given my daughter a tremendous opportunities. >> anecdotal. >> i was positive you were going to win, and when we saw you weren't. i went into mourning.

i had a veil. people were crying. there was a certain moment, we were on the air when i realized you were not going to win. i felt like i had lost a friend or something. did you cry? did bill cry? >> no, we didn't cry that night. howie: she is still in mourning. there was only one hard question about whether there was tone deafness about barack obama's short comings. >> sarah sanders said yesterday that it's sad that the last chapter of your public life will be defined by propping up book sales with false and reckless attacks. >> i don't pay much attention to what she says. howie: no one expects the ladies of the view to have opinions. but to fawn over the democrat

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howie: a sunday morning segment was extremely sympathetic to the consumer protection. howie: a bill has passed the house to curb the agency's powers. >> are all of those professors wrong? >> yes. >> they are? they are all wrong? >> obviously they don't believe in freedom, they don't believe in capitalism.

howie: the program interviews four law professors who defended the bureau and criticized the gop congressman. >> it seems to me chairman henserling believes only in freedom for big business. howie: all four professors worked for or with the consumer protection bureau during the obama administration. these weren't independent experts. they all had ties to the board they were defending. this note was posted some advocates featured in this report worked on the advisory board for the consumer

protection bureau. continue the conversation on twitter. i'll see you