as we feared. at least 44 dead, many injured and many missing in rubble. buildings fell like pancakes. many of them are impossible to get to, with tremors that are still active. we are on it. stay with fox. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier at the white house. we are following to breaking stories of two potential natural disasters. you're looking at scenes from mexico. magnitude 7.1 earthquake has rocked that nation on the 32nd anniversary of the massive 1985 quake that killed thousands. the governor of one central mexican states has at least 42 people are dead but that number is expected to rise. the u.s. geological survey says the quake was centered 76 miles southeast of mexico city. we will have a live report from our west coast newsroom shortly. on the right hand of your screen, hurricane maria is bearing down on the caribbean.

it's a category 5 hurricane with winds of 165 miles per hour. it's going over much of the same territory that was ravaged by hurricane irma days ago. puerto rico is bracing for a major hit tomorrow. we'll have the latest from the fox weather center and we will go to puerto rico where steve harrigan has just arrived. there is a third top story, and it's out of new york. president trump making his first speech to the united nations general assembly. he made quite a first impression. >> we meet at a time of both immense promise and great peril. the depraved regime in north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. we must work together and confront together those who threaten us with chaos, turmoil, and terror. the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided

transactions. we cannot abide by an agreement that provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. >> bret: he was not shy and trying to rally the world against the nuclear ambitions of iran and north korea. she white house correspondent john roberts is outside the u.n. tonight. good evening. quite a speech. >> good evening to you. it was quite a speech but it was exactly what the president intended. he came to washington to be a disruptor, to shake things up and that's what he did here at the united nations in his speech this morning. the president was reaching out to the united nations to do something about north korea. clearly, if north korea does get a thermonuclear warhead that it can mount on an intercontinental ballistic missile and were to fire one towards the united states, that would unleash the total destruction that president trump threatened this morning. don't forget, he said if the united states is forced to defend itself, it will totally destroy north korea.

that's not the president's preferred course of action. he has said that. his aides have said that. what the president would like to see is for the united nations security council to come together to impose tough sanctions on north korea. for china and russia to use their collective influence against north korea. he slapped, as nikki haley said, he would the right people. and he hugged the right people, according to the u.s. delegation. the president did reach out and gave a nice big hug to china and russia, thanking them for their actions last week at the u.n. security council passing the tough new sanctions. while people like dianne feinstein are criticizing the president for using his united nations speech as a platform to threaten war, the president sees it the opposite, saying those would be the ultimate consequences if something doesn't happen with north korea. now it's time for the u.n. to act. >> bret: interesting to hear the ambassador from venezuela say he thought he was listening to ronald reagan in 1982 as a

jab. >> yeah, the foreign minister of venezuela, reacting to the president, calling out the nicholas medora regime, saying it wasn't a failed imposition of socialism. calling a date corrupt dictatorship. he then accused president trump of reigniting the cold war saying he didn't know if he was listening to ronald reagan in 1982 when he was talking tough about the soviet union or donald trump in 2017. note to the venezuelan prime minister, if you're going to try to insult a republican, don't compare him or her to ronald reagan. >> bret: we will see you at 6:00 p.m. we will also have a live state rex tillerson in the next hour. let's get some analysis of the president's speech. dana perino as cohost of "the five." and cross tire walt --

chris stirewalt. >> presidential speeches to the general assembly are often defining moments of a presidency. it only happens once a year. i love that today president trump had the stage to himself. that meant not only was he dared to give a speech. there were some people that weren't there. i think it's good president putin and president xi jinping weren't there. the left seems alarmed by the at least they have something, a defined foreign policy. they've been wondering, where is he going to fall on this or that. this was a speech that was grand in scope. it didn't touch everything. it didn't touch everyone's words, freedom, liberty. but he did talk about diplomacy

and how the united nations could be better. i think it was well received, not just on the right but even in the middle. the left are going to be upset no matter what but i would say he rose to the occasion today and give a great speech. >> bret: chris, there were strains you could hear from other republican presidents definitely. but there were trumpian moments, the rocket man moment and other phrases. if you look at the scope of spches, you see the joint address to congress and uc saudi arabia and uc warsaw. the speech in poland. the afghan policy rollout and today. you're beginning to see the contours of trump doctrine. america first but other countries can be independently able to handle their own issues. >> more humane and thoughtful version of the trumpism.

when he went to mexico and it was not a good love. he seemed very uncomfortable on the world stage. he had his meeting with the mexican president. it looked like he came out on the short end of that. today he was in command and speaking authoritatively on subjects that were complex. he put forward -- i know it didn't sound nuanced but there were nuanced points he made. he put forward a basically straightforward american foreign policy that as you said, could have come from the mouths of almost any republican president. >> bret: the one thing critics are focusing on is that north korea threat. they are leaving out the "if" part of that sentence. if north korea and kim jong un do this, then this is going to happen. wonder what the message, how it's going to be digested by countries like china. stick a one of the things you heard the administration say as

they are of road. you had mcmaster, haley, and tillerson saying that over the weekend. they are trying to send a message. one of president speaks was not only speaking to the people directly in front of him or on television. this is meant directly for kim jong un and i'm sure the presidents words are going to be parsed and they were going to try to think, what does he mean by that? on this occasion when it comes to presidential speeches, you do not have to wonder what president trump would actually do. what he is saying is it was a strong warning and it was enough to get the attention of the world to say i'm actually not kidding. we are at the end of the road. you are very survival, the people you care about that you are here representing, it all comes down to us. we will actively have to. you are right, the important word is "if." it might be the first time a world leader was given a nickname on stage at the united nations. i don't know if it will become routine, but rocket man will

never be the same. >> bret: i didn't know what the over-under was about the marble. but rocket man was going to get in. chris, what else struck your ear about this speech? criticism and praise for the u.n., what they can get done in the u.n. security council. >> trump's foreign policy has evolved over the course of his presidency. there's been considerable move, as we talked about before, toward normal, a more normal, predictable american policy. his talk about north korea before he makes this challenge greater because every president has had to come to terms with eventually the fact that there is no good solution for north korea and there continues not to be one. now, because of the way trump addressed the problem when he came into office, status quo is not an option on the north koreans continue to escalate sittion. this one is intractablend he' going to need to pull off a hail mary on this.

>> bret: dana, there was a tease in here. sometimes trump speeches include that, like coming up next week, the iran deal and whether there is going to be change. >> there is a deadline of october 15 for the president to respond to congress. i think if you look at nikki haley's speech from two weeks ago at the american enterprise institute, she laid out what's going to happen which is the united states would basically say this deal is not good. and if you look at the law, the law congress passed, it's up to them to decide what to do going forward. i think the president will say that's what he expects them to do. now congress' list has gotten longer. >> bret: thank you. this is a fox news alert. at least 42 people are dead in a massive earthquake that struck central mexico today. trace gallagher is in our west coast newsroom with the latest. good evening. >> before i show you more of these disturbing pictures of the

earthquake destruction, i want to give you an idea of the area. the quake hit 70 miles south of mexico city in the state of puebla. we have not gotten a death toll but in the next-door state, the governor says the death toll is at 42. in mexico city, the district of mexico, two people have died but if you look at these pictures of collapsed buildings and buckled bridges, the death toll will most certainly rise. there are numerous people trapped inside buildings but it's unclear if the authorities are in contact with these people. we are also getti word that dozens if not hundreds of roads in and out of mexico city are fractured and impossible which means the recovery effort will be that much slower, especially in the vulnerable areas outside mexico city where millions of poor people live. 32 years ago today, and 8.0 quake in mexico city claimed at least 5,000 lives and thousands

of buildings. the construction codes have become stricter but in the poorer areas, there are hundreds of thousands of structures that have not been retrofitted or in force. mexico city was born on a dry lake bed. waves tend to echo and multiply the damage. dry lake beds are prone to liquefaction which means the ground turns to water. in the outlying areas where millions of poor people live, there many buildings that are not reinforced. even though the epicenter of this lake west south of mexico city, it was 32 miles deep and the damage will be felt over a wide area. for some context, today's quake was six times stronger than the 6.9 quake that hit san francisco in 1989. 12 times stronger than the quake that hit northridge california in 1994. last week, and 8.1 quake in the

southwestern part of mexico killed 58 people. the death toll of this mexico city quake will certainly rise in the hours ahead. >> bret: it's a big story. we will head back with breaking detailss they become available. thank you. who has the presidents back after his speech today at the u.n.? we will find out after break. health care, russia, and the budget. a tick-tock of what is happening on capitol hill and we are watching the storm hurricane maria. next.

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♪ >> bret: at the white house, we do this once a week. down pennsylvania avenue, congress has more than a full plate the final 11 days of this fiscal year. let's get more on that tonight from fox senior capitol hill producer chad program. we have talked about a lot of things but the focus for a lot of folks is health care. we thought efforts to repeal and replace obamacare might be finished, might be done. they've been resurrected. explain what's going on. >> it's like a horror movie where they think they've killed off the monster and it's alive and keeps coming around the corner. you can almost hear the creepy

music. the democrats thought they killed this. there is going to be an effort to try to resurrect this by republicans. they have until september 30 to use this special process which avoids filibusters. the thing about health care is it's always been about the math. the average repeal and replace bill would get in the upper 40s. they need at least 50 with vice president pence to potentially break the tie. john mccain and susan collins are on the fence. collins says this is more flawed than the last one. rand paul is a hard know. what a lot of people are looking at, lisa murkowski, the republican senator from alaska. i have sources telling me all roads lead to her and they would have to move this next week. vice president pence was at the capitol today talking to republican senators about this and he says it's all in. they have to get this off the table so they can go to tax reform next. >> bret: we should point out the cassidy-graham bill pushes a lot of it to the states.

next week, a big week, as you mentioned, for tax reform in congress. >> what we expect is kevin brady, chairman of ways and means from texas, to put out some specifics. this has been the criticism from republicans that they don't have enough specifics. people say they do. we will see what the proof is in the pudding when they put it together next week. kevin brady has not scheduled a markup section. that would be the signal to know they are getting somewhere in committee. republicans have always been in general agreement on tax reform. the devil will be in the details on this and that's what's going to be hard. that might be why they need democrats and the need to avoid a filibuster, and that's why they need a second special budget reconciliation package which neutered the filibusters. >> bret: a lot of moving parts. senate intelligence committee heard from president trump's personal attorney michael cohen

as part of this russian investigation but it didn't reallyo as a gelas planned. to go that's right. he leaked some information he was going to tell the committee. they didn't like that. richard burr, chairman of the committee, indicated you don't get to say things in public and then say other things in private. in the past 15 minutes or so, they have asked michael cohen to appear in a public session on the 25th of october. >> bret: okay. chad pergram with the latest on capitol hill. thank you. as we mentioned, hurricane maria tearing through the caribbean tonight. it's going over a lot of the same territory already devastated unfortunately by hurricane her mouth. let's get the latest on the storm's path by adam klotz. puerto rico looks like it's in the target range. >> throughout the day tomorrow, that's what we are going to be looking at. it's a big storm, wins at 155 miles an hour. dusting even up to 190, 185. it's a powerful one.

going to continue to move in that direction. you're going to see this may be week and a little bit once it begins to run over the u.s. virgin islands, puerto rico. either way, a very powerful storm. early tomorrow morning for the u.s. virgin islands, throughout the day tomorrow. folks in puerto rico are going to be dealing with this. we have a little bit of indecision on specifically where it's going to cross over the island but it looks like the largest city, san juan, is going to be heavily impacted. you see it begin to turn east of the bahamas before it heads north. no concern for florida with this particular system even though it's a system taking a similar path to irma. the big concerns are going to be the wins as theyro virgin islands and into puerto rico tomorrow. hurricane force winds. that's what it's indicating. what kind of winds? these are some of the wind gusts, 120, 130.

it's going to be a powerful storm. >> bret: adam, thanks. the act of the united nations, israel's prime minister gave president trump some serious backup today at the u.n. senior correspondent eric shaw is there. >> let's give this as a toast to the potential, the great, great potential of the united nations. >> while the international spotlight was on president trump's debut on the world body stage, other leaders echoed similar themes warning of threats to the global order. it is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu focus on iran. using the the -- >> president p called a nuclear deal with irand embarrassment. >> the israeli leader is calling for the agreement, and his words "to be fixed or canceled." the restrictions on iran's

nuclear program in ten years. it will clear the way for a nuclear bomb. >> fix it or nicks it. nixing the deal means restoring massive pressure on iran, including crippling sanctions until iran fully dismantles its nuclear weapons care ability. fixing the deal requires many things, among them inspecting military and any other sites that are suspect. >> and a little noticed development, netanyahu had a private sit down with the egyptian president, an important bond with israel's arab neighbor that has suffered numerous terrorist attacks. >> translator: i would like to speak in favor of the nuclear agreement with iran. >> in contrast to president trump and netanyahu's view, emmanuel macron praise the deal, saying changing or scrapping it would be a mistake. >> translator: we put together a solid, robust, agreement with

iran that will ensure iran does not obtain nuclear weapons. renouncing it would be a grave error. it would be irresponsible for us to fail to uphold the agreement. this is good agreement. >> the venezuelan foreign minister reacted sharply to president trump 'a saying he came to talk of war, treats that countries like his employees. it's a sad day for the world, he said. tomorrow there will likely be more reaction. it ishe iranian president, hassan rouhani'sur to speak before the general assembly. >> bret: eric shawn. thanks. millions of people personal information compromised. now equifax is admitting it's not the first time. rough sailing for the u.s. navy, and the top admirals are facing tough questions. from scandalous romance,

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>> bret: welcome back to the white house. the last two months have been anything but smooth sailing for the u.s. navy. a series of accidents has led to the deaths of 17 sailors the replacement of several senior officers. today some of those still left were on capitol hill. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the latest from the pentagon. >> good evening, bret. angry lawmakers directed tough questions at the navy's top officer, admiral john richardson, while family members of the victim sat behind him. richardson admitted that changes the training may be part of the problem. in 2003, the navy closed its surface war fair schoolhouse. >> we thought we could achieve the aim and train junior officers with a computer-based approach combined with on-the-job training at sea. we found that was woefully inadequate. >> hall in the world is a billion-dollar destroyer not know there is a freighter closing in on it?

i don't understand how this could possibly happen. i have talked to maine lobstermen and they are scratching their heads. don't we have sailors on the bridge with binoculars anymore? >> many watch officers are exhausted. chief of naval operations admitted many sailors are working 100 hour weeks. >> i think i know what 100 hours a week does to people over time. when someone is working 100 hours a week, over a period of time, they are going to make mistakes. >> for mccain, this is a personal one. one of the two destroyers that crashed was named for his father and grandfather. the navy is down to codestroyers badly needed right now the pacific, both capable of shooting down north korean missiles. the outgoing head of the navy's surface forces has ordered all navy ships to keep their automatic identification systems on while operating in busy shipping lanes.

it will alert adversaries to the location of u.s. warships, the system can force merchant ships on autopilot to change course. he also wants to get rid of five hour watches the navy. six navy leaders have been fired since the collisions. rear admiral charles williams and captain jeff bennett were terminated yesterday. one-third of all navy warship training certifications have expired, according to a government watchdog. those ships are still sailing. today the navy officers admitted ten of the uss fitzgerald certifications had expired at the time of the crash. >> bret: a big story for the navy. jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. new trouble tonight for equifax, the credit monitoring company waseang with the fallout from a massive security breach. now we are learning it was not the first. equifax says the earlier incident was not related to the most recent breach which

compromised the personal information of more than 140 billion americans. let's get more from fox business network. good evening. >> some industry watchers were speculating that hackers did the first tack and marked as a test for the bigger one that followed. equifax saying that's not the case. after the march hack, equifax hired an outside security firm which was retained to help with the may through july data set. equifax says they found no evidence these two hacks were related but it's worth noting they have declined to comment. what casts longer of a shadow is there's evidence that equifax executives should have realized how vulnerable their company was. this march hack casting doubts on claims of these three high-level execs who said they had no knowledge of data

breaches when selling $2 million worth of stocks this summer. some experts say if you believe three high-ranking execs didn't know about one breach, it's less believable that they were unaware of two breaches. they have opened a criminal probe into equifax. earlier today, the attorney general filed suit against equifax. this matches with the new york attorney general did. this is a sign of things to come. it's worth noting cyber experts say none of the data from this equifax pack has showed up anywhere. in other words, it's not for sale. all of the social security numbers, dates of birth, and some cases driver's license numbers. it's not on sale on the web. a lot of experts are saying the lack of commercial activity is near proof that state-sponsored group is behind this big data

breach. this may through july data breach that affected 40% of amerans. the theory is, sb 20 hack this big and sophisticated must be the work of a governmental organization. people can protect themselves by freezing their credit reports. >> bret: it's a good thing to do. thank you. next up, president trump threatens north korea and blisters iran and venezuela. we will get reaction to his u.n. speech from our panel. a little later, i will ask secretary of state rex tillerson about the fallout from the speech in the latest hot spots around the world. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. experience amazing. tap one little bumper

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have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. no nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles. >> bret: president trump at the united nations today, a speech that's getting a lot of reaction here and around the world. democratic senator saying this. dianne feinstein "president trump's bombastic threat to destroy north korea and his refusal to present any positive pathways forward on many global challenges we face are severe dappointments. he aims to unify the world through tactics of intimidation but in reality, he only further isolates the united states." republicans came out with positive tweets and reaction, as well as the israeli prime minister with the big kudos. let's bring the panel.

joining me at the white house, catherine lucey, white house reported for the associated press. from the washington bureau, katie pavlich. charles hart, opinion editor for "the washington times" ." it was bold, direct. >> he really put the world on notice today. the president came in with a clear message. if you've been watching his speeches throughout the year and the campaign, it was a continuation of a vintage and -- of a vision we've seen before. he revealed his frustration and the way he thinks, and it's the way he thinks he needs to deliver the message. this is the kind of rhetoric he's comfortable with. this is the way he wants to communicate. he wanted to make a stand today. >> bret: we have seen these kinds of speeches before. i mentioned saudi arabia and warsaw, big speeches. it's a bit of a trumpet doctor informing. >> absolutely. i think a fairly consistent

trump doctrine and a departure from the kind of speeches you would hear from president obama a year ago when he was giving a similar speech before the u.n. he was talking about how america had to learn to subjugate its interests for the interests of other countries and just sort of rein in some of our freedom in order to make a better, grander world. donald trump went out there talking about how much more money were going to invest in our military and we are going to be the most powerful military we've ever been, and then went on to name names and terms of calling out enemies. and then went on to even criticize the u.n. for completely failing in central parts of its mission. i look back and i cannot think of another -- even

george w. bush who got sort of criticized for being somewhat of a cowboy wouldn't have delivered a speech like this. this is tough stuff. i think a lot of people are thrilled to hear it. >> bret: he mentioned russia and china wants. i want to play this sound bite. russia and china, the leaders, were not in the room at the time. here is that part. >> we must reject threats to sovereignty from the ukraine to the south china sea. it's time for north korea to realize that the denuclearization is it's only acceptable future. i want to thank china and russia for joining the vote to impose sanctions along with all the other members of the security council. >> bret: he mentioned china, except for that once, they north korea part was aimed at china specifically. >> this is going to be the next step here, we saw a lot coming from president trump today in terms of rhetoric and he's a man who expects results. we've had these votes on sanctions twice now.

the chise and russians have signed on, and the question going forward is going to be due this sanctions get enforced, and does the u.n. make sure those sanctions get enforced? in terms of the general message and theme of the speech, he did reject globalism, as charlie was saying, of americans giving up some of their ideology to fit into this global, international community. at the same time, did not reject international partnerships with different countries in terms of solving the big problems on north korea and iran. i think that goes to show he's very serious that it's an america first but not alone. his words backed it up. >> bret: what about the tea is about the iran nuclear deal? seemed like he suggested there'll be some sort of change. >> it's possible. he didn't tell us today what's going to happen. he had tough rhetoric today. he has been very clear. he was vocal last week that he's not happy with the deal.

he's criticized the deal. we're going to have to little bit longer to see exactly what he does. >> bret: i will be asking the secretary of state about that next hour. charlie, final thoughts on the broad messaging here. you've got north korea, iran, venezuela, radical islamic terrorism, taking target to all of it. >> much like everything we've seen with the trump presidency from his election, so much of it as a rejection of the previous administration and the previous administrations strategic patience in north korea or the iran deal or russia's entanglement, broadening entanglement come all over its region and interference in our election. this really is not only a domestic slap in the face to the previous administration. lawyer seeing here is a stark departure from the obama administration's policies.

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the heads of facebook are under new scrutiny tonight over how they may have unwittingly helped russia's efforts to influence last year's u.s. election. this part of a growing backlash here in washington towards silicon valley. correspondent kristin fisher reports. >> the tech giants have long been admired by congress, companies that embodied american innovations in job creation. but then the 2016 election happened. big tech could be in big trouble on capitol hill. >> i think frankly they need to come and testify before congress because there's a lot we need to know about this. >> right now no company is a bigger target than facebook from unwittingly allowing the spread of fake news during the campaign to facebook's most recent admission selling thousands of ads to groups backed by the russian government. >> i am distressed it's taken this long to be informed that the russians had paid for at least $100,000 of ads designed or tried to influence our electoral process. >> congressman adam schiff is distressed that facebook shared

evidence with the special counsel but not his committee, which is also investigating russian interference in the 2016 election. added up and you can see why analysts say this may be the moment congress turns its back on big tech. >> we are entering an era of accountability because we have systems and platforms that reached nearly every citizen in the country. >> last night hillary clinton called the weaponization of information on social media: : >> one of the most serious challenges. >> it's not just democrats. republicans worry about the amount of influence these companies exert over the american electorate. >> they can be anti-conservative, antiliberal. there's been almost no supervision. >> facebook once called himself a social utility. the question is whether it and theest ofig tech should be regulated as one. >> this is the equivalent of gigantic public utilities. the information has enormous

power and i don't think in a free society you can have power hidden in secret controlled by billionaires. >> we ask facebook officials if they be willing to be interviewed. they declined except to say the company will continue to work with u.s. authorities investigating these issues. >> bret: thank you. back to the panel. katie, charlie, catherine. katie, what about this? is it a turning of the tide? there is always some evil villain, if you will, somewhere. is it silicon valley? >> the government has to tread lightly when it comes to their goals. this is a very political hunt for people in silicon valley. i'm not exactly sure what the government is trying to get out of facebook and these big tech giants. there are serious questions here, not only about facebook's operations as a private company and what they are allowed to do. they are allowed to sell ads to whoever they want. they are providing a service.

whether the government should be regulating batch. and there is serious questions about their clients, so to speak, and whether the government should be regulating what private people say in a private business on the internet. stew on the facebook statement, we should point out says "the vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn't specifically reference the u.s. presidential election. voting, or a particular candidate. the ads appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum." that was the facebook statement. >> i think is the reporting showed, there are people saying this is a new moment of accountability for facebook. how is it going to unfold? lawmakers have questions. seems like they're going to want to bring people in. could there be hearing this? could marcus mark zuckerberg cn and testify? the other issue, what might the

galatians look like. i don't know there's been consensus. >> bret: that's a question, charlie. if you go down the regulation road and it seems like we are headed down that way, for the longest time, silicon valley is dead they are bigger, if you will, than washington. didn't pay a ton of attention to inside washington politics but they may have to. >> the whole thing sort of highlights what i would call yet another false, failed promise from the federal government where congress tried to regulate this sort of stuff with campaign finance reform. what happened in the end was, remember you are mucking with freedom of speech. you are mucking with people's ability to see what they want to say. put as much money as they want toehind a message in order to express yourself. through campaign finance reforms, we had this weird situation where average americans are capped at how much they can give, how much of their

speech is allowed to be paid for to promote certain candidates. and then russia and these mall factors that are from outside the country, none of these laws pertain to, they walk in and dropped $100,000 worth of propaganda on masse. i think it is a very dangerous thing we are dealing with and we have to deal with it carefully. these lawmakers talk like there's a simple answer through campaign finance reform. we have to be very skeptical of that. >> bret: yeah, katie, the big thing there is the rational part. the outside country that's investing in whatever they are investing in. >> there is precedent in terms of the law not allowing foreign donations to campaigns in america. maybe they could use that in terms of some of the regulation they're going to come up with but when it comes to what they are regulating, it really just seems like they are going after facebook based on not a lot of

evidence that russia was actually working with facebook to promote donald trump and not to mention facebook had nothing to do with people going to the polls and deciding which candidate they were going to vote for. i think at this point, i see it as a little bit of a witch hunt on capitol hill for these government panels, these congressional committees trying find something on russia going after a private company and private citizens for simply exercising their free speech. >> bret: we don't know much about bob mueller's investigation but we do know he has information from facebook that the capitol hill committees don't. >> i think the thing we know is that the investigation is heating up. there's been a lot of reports this week about things they are doing, and it's not going away. whatever happens with facebook, that's going to keep moving and is going to be a concern for the white house. >> bret: is there an end date? do they have an expiration date to make their case on these fronts? >> not that i'm aware -- i think

the investigation is continuing. a lot of people are saying it could go on for quite a while. >> bret: do you agree, charlie? >> i think the longer it goes on, the more complicated for democrats. as long as you just keep pointing to the smoking guns but there is clearly not been any real hard evidence that anybody within the trump campaign actually did anything to collude with russia. it makes this look like somewhat of a witch hunt. >> bret: we will follow at all. panel, thank you. that doesn't for our number one of "special report." a brand-new hour, including a live interview with the secretary of state after a quick break. ances that cause symptoms. pills block one and 6 is greater than 1. flonase changes everything.

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