>> jon: we are back in an hour, "outnumbered" starts now. >> julie: see you then. >> sandra: fox news alert, we are awaiting possible remarks from president trump as he gets sent to me with leaders from south korea and japan on the sidelines of the u.n. general assembly. amid the growing nuclear threat coming out of north korea. this is the white house plans to announce new actions against the north. japan's shinzo abe says time is running out. this is "outnumbered," i'm sandra smith coming here today, harris faulkner, host of kennedy on fox business, kennedy. reply can strategist, lisa boothe is here, and today's #oneluckyguy, the host of the next revolution and former chief of strategy for british prime minister david cameron, steve hilton and here and he is outnumbered. good to have you.

>> steve: lets a venting stuff to get to. >> sandra: did you notice the traffic around new york city? >> steve: a came from the train yesterday for a special report yesterday evening. i think i avoided the worst. >> harris: these motorcades are fun. >> sandra: less to get to this hour, president trump meeting with south korean president moon jae-in for a lunch where they will be joined by prime minister of japan shinzo abe. the agenda confronting north korea. this is a fox news is learning the north korean action the admin attritional announce today is a new executive order that empowers the treasury department to more broadly target individuals and entities who do it business or trade with north korea. the meeting comes on the heels of the presidency when address where he vowed to totally destroy north korea and called

its leader rocket man. and response, this rebuke from the foreign minister. if they thought they could scare us with the sound of a barking dog, that is a silly dream. i pity his advisors. meantime, japanese prime minister rob abe same tis running out. speak out what's necessary is action whether or not we can put in end to the provocations by north korea is dependent upon the solidarity of the community. there is not much time left. >> sandra: very strong words there. steve hilton, this is a very important moment where this country appeared the president meeting with these world leaders and making major decisions on how to move forward with this growing threat from north korea. >> steve: it's big and serious

stuff. before we get into that, when you mentioned the response from north korea, i was hoping would have that lady, i can't get enough of her. she's hilarious. i think what's happened this week is a really interesting example of when president trump's ability to do things differently, to shake things up and not be the usual kind of politician actually is applied in a thoughtful and consistent way. you get really interesting results. he's gone in there, he's been in readily direct about what's happening and what needs to be done and they don't know what to make of it. what he's doing is conveying the single most important thing to him as a political leader and that his strength. above all. that's the thing, whatever the

issue is, he wants to be a strong leader and america plays a strong role. for years, we've seen these warm words. >> sandra: as the president meets this hour with these leaders, kennedy, i'll remind you what we've already heard from shinzo abe, he's agreeing with the president that military action is needed. >> kennedy: theresa may also pledged to support and she said she didn't necessarily agree with the strength of his words, but the intentions certainly and perhaps they were running of diplomatic road. those are things that are easy to say when you live thousands of miles away from the korean peninsula. in japan, it's a much more serious existential threat as we've seen thousands of people

potentially going into underground bunkers because they are within a stone's throw, they don't need an intercontinental ballistic missile to hit japan and it's interesting because prime minister abe is saying the same thing as the president, there have to be military options here, but i don't think he's met with the same kind of press hysteria that our president has met with in our country. >> sandra: we got the response were north korea finally to the president saying that he would completely destroy north korea if provoked. saying what they heard from the president the sound of a barking dog. >> lisa: that's more rhetorical. i'm concerned about the actual actions that are taking place and my reaction is, we're going to see these actions announced today from the permanent treasury. we've seen the trump and administration take action that we haven't seen before in regards to the harshest sanctions with north korea. we seen the trump administration go after chinese banks, slaves

in these actions take place. the japanese prime minister called for increased sanctions. but what's the end goal is my question because he even said that north korea is not going to give up its missiles. where does that leave us? you can go throughout time and look at actions that the u.n. has taken and what has that led to? i don't know what the end goal is and that's where my concern is right now. >> harris: that's a great point to ride and who is setting the deadline here? we keep hearing it's running out and health care on september 30th then you need 60 votes. with north korea, you have something happening today that must have china at home sitting we should listen to our friend putin. kim jong un says he wants unify

the peninsula, you might want to have one of your proxies, one of your friends at that table not do that. they have voted for the sanctions, but they're not at this table. we're not going to know from this president because he's not going to telegraph it. that should have china really concerned. >> kennedy: the timeline is having a nuclear test icbm. we have to figure out a solution before their leader finally snaps and does something he can't take back. >> harris: util nuggets less than that? you don't think it's more than ever before, this president is able to say based on the military things he's done the mother of all bombs drop, you don't think this particular administration, ahead of that is

saying we are setting our own timetable and were getting clos close. we heard from nikki haley, we're almost out of options. >> kennedy: that's a difference between the redline in syria. and north korea actually having the ability. >> steve: the reason we're seeing the drumbeat right now is because you have the u.n. meetings, everyone is here, obviously a big focus of discussion. the deadline is stopping them from doing this and i completely agree with your point. he's doing all these tests. >> lisa: the question is, we've had the head of the missile defense agency who has said at a symposium that he is fully confident we can knock down a nuclear threat. the question has been why haven't we? >> harris: that's day of

stuff, i'm talking preemptive. >> lisa: what does that mean? what does military action main question worked does it mean increase ground sources? we had a former cia director who didn't even know we were targeting. a full invasion would lead to a massive shelling of life. >> steve: a friend of mine -- earlier we were talking about who knows this very well. in relation to russia, we can retaliate, we can turn the lights off if we wanted to. there's a range of options that we don't even know the details on and probably shouldn't. that's going to have to be deployed soon. >> harris: the president has

said he's knuckling to give a lot of detail, but he is talking with doing fireside chats. >> kennedy: i think it's appropriate to lay out some of the consequences and that's what makes it so difficult because the question is, are these artificial timelines question mike unfortunately, nothing they are. this is a real possibility. most of the nuclear program exists under north korea and its impossible to have an underground -- it's like an iceberg and there's much more than meets the surface. the consequences are how long is at last? what happens with people in labor camps? >> lisa: we know there gaming through all of this. >> sandra: we will find out this afternoon with those further actions that they are taking because i'll remind you, rex tillerson has said this is

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>> harris: new development in the russian investigation, fox news has confirmed special counsel robert mueller is seeking a host of documents related to trump's actions as president. the information request spans 13 categories according the firings of ex-national security advisor michael flynn and former fbi director james comey. and details on an oval office meeting the president had with russian officials where he reportedly said comey's firing has relieved pressure on him. the president's attorney says he had administration is fully cooperating. this money, vice president mike pence is being asked if he believes miller is exceeding his jurisdiction. here's his response. >> that's for others to say. what i can assure you is we are

fully cooperating with the special counsel and i made clear that during my time, i was unaware of any collusion with russian officials and i stand by that. as i said, we'll provide any information special counsel requires. honestly, this is not with the amick and people are focused on. >> harris: steve, you drilled down a little bit with how he's carrying things out. you've got a morning raid on paul manafort. we've had this pressure before and after this presidency was engaged. i'm wondering if politically, what does this do to the white house? >> steve: there's no question this is distracting. there are sony people involved in this. inevitably, one of the biggest things inside the heart of a government -- you never have

enough time, even to deal with the incoming issues. let alone advance your agenda. when you add into that all this russia stuff, it's inevitably going to have a detrimental effect on real issues that affect everyone and that's why i'm so angry about it. when you look at people elsewhere, they love this russia stuff, it's the only thing they want to talk about. it's so harmful to the national interests to have this administration spending its time on this stuff instead of doing what they're elected to do. >> sandra: especially considering this is not a fair and independent investigation. >> lisa: that's what needs to be asked.

when he took question of this being stone and a nonpartisan matter. james comey, a guy who has repeatedly misled congress under oath that he forged this investigation to begin with. nine attorneys on mueller's team donated money to democrats. you had paul manafort coming out saying he question the leak of a pfizer warrant which is a felon felony. these are all fair and reasonable questions were people to be asking. is this being conducted in a nine partisan way >> harris: we don't know what mueller has. >> kennedy: he may have a series of bad judgment. i don't know if that adds up to charges and impeachment, but it seems like if you're going to take this kind of focused look

at inappropriate behavior, there is not mutual exclusive 70 between the two campaigns. we've learned so much more about those emails and the classified emails and the content and the pay for play on huma abedin's account. >> harris: i hope people didn't miss that. there is not mutual exclusivity between the two. >> kennedy: you can have two people doing in a propria things at the same time. it doesn't make sense to have one person fully excused and the other, whether it's one person or a series of campaign associates who are under a different kind of scrutiny. >> harris: we were alluding to the fact that the administration is going to have to multitask and summative runways. look at the president's schedule. you and i have that on our

phones. at 1215, he is scheduled to get some comments. >> sandra: there is so much of this in administration on their plate and it's such an emphasis agenda. taxi from, health care, you name it, daca. there's a lot to do and this is a major distraction for this administration. >> steve: it is and i wish the president's political opponents would stop enjoying it so much. i think an almost back to the election. they can't believe they lost fair and square, they think there has to be something untoward. >> lisa: that's not just his political opposition, it's not just the democratic party as well. it's the mainstream media who runs the stories that in some cases turn out to be plainly false. look at the cnn article regarding anthony scaramucci,

we've seen other stories from a "new york times" also being debunked. >> harris: there's another line today. they have another line on that today. we were wrong, this is actually what happened. >> sandra: i want to jump in, you're looking at a live shot of this lunch with the president, the president attending a lunch with the prime minister of japan as well as the president of the republic of korea. obviously a very important lunch, an important discussion on how the administration plans to move forward with the growing threat coming from north korea. vice president mike pence is in that room, as you just saw, rex tillerson, secretary of state, nikki haley is there, steve hilton, i want to bring you in. what a moment happening in new york city right now as the u.n. general assembly happening this week, happening on the sidelines, this lunch taking place and we're waiting for the

president. what a big moment here. >> steve: it's a really huge moment. it's a culmination over a week where he's really shown when he can do on the world stage. you can't just ignore the sniping about the language which we discussed earlier. i think what's coming across to me is exactly the stuff that many of us talked about during election campaigns that his character is a dealmaker. >> sandra: starting to hear the shuttering of cameras, that is because we are being told the president is walking into the room right now. this lunch happening with world leaders of south korea at that table, the republic of korea at the table, as well as the president's cabinet, you've got wipes president mike pence by his side, as well as rex tillerson. the president sitting down, the lunch is beginning right now.

harris, let me bring you in. >> harris: in you know who is not in room, china. >> sandra: we just got word there would be an announcement this afternoon of executive action. let's listen to the president. >> we significantly expand our authorities to target individuals, companies, financial institutions that finance and facilitate trade with north korea. as i outlined it by address to the united nations general assembly, north korea's nuclear weapons and missile development is a grave threat to peace and security in our world and it is unacceptable that others financially support this criminal rogue regime. the brutal north korean regime does not respect its own citizens or the sovereignty of

other nations. our new executive order will cut off sources of revenue that fund north korea's efforts to develop the deadliest weapons known to humankind. the order enhances the treasury departments ability to target any individual or entity that conducts significant trade in goods or services and technology with north korea and i'm very proud to tell you that as you may have just heard moments ago, china, their central bank, has told their other banks, that's a massive banking system, to immediately stop doing business with north korea. it just happened. just reported. in addition to everything else, what we will do is identify new

industries, including textiles, fishing, information technology, and manufacturing, that the treasury department can target with strong sanctions. secretary manoj and is representing the treasury department that's here today to prevent sanctions. it also includes measures to disrupt trade networks. for much too long, north korea has been allowed to abuse the internationals of financial system facilitates funding for its nuclear weapons and missile programs. the united states is has representatives working on this problem for over 25 years, they have done nothing. that's why we're in the the problem we're in today in addition to other countries not doing what they should have don

done. tolerance for this disgraceful practice must end now. a new order will give the treasury department the discretion to sanction any foreign bank that normally conducts or facilitates significant transactions tied to trade with north korea. i want to say and thank the president of china for the very bold move he made today. that's a very bold move and we appreciate it. anything that occurs following my signature on the executive order which i just assigned. foreign banks will face a clear choice to do business with the united states or facilitate trade with the lawless regime in north korea. they won't have so much trade. this new order provides us with powerful new tools, but i want to be clear, the order targets owing one country and the country is north korea. the regime can no longer count

on others to facilitate its trade and banking activities. many countries are working with us to increase economic and diplomatic pressure on north korea, but i continue to call on all those responsible nations to enforce and implement u.n. sanctions. i must tell you this is a complete denuclearization of north korea that we seek. we cannot have this as a world body any longer. in just a few minutes, prime minister abe, president moon and i are going to discuss what more we can do working together. we've had a very, very close relationship, i think our nations have become closer because of this. i know it's going to be a great

meeting. south korea and japan have never been stronger than they are today. we strive to greater world were strong and independent nations honor their people, respect their sovereignty, respect the sovereignty also of other nations and promote peace. thank you very much and i would like to start off with president moon to say a few words please. >> we understand the huge concerns of the japanese people may have so i would like to say i have compassion in this

regard. the three leaders have met in july and germany and we issued a statement. we imposed sanctions on north korea. the three leaders that have come together and made speeches at the general assembly were able to enhance understanding about the sanctions this is the outcome that the three countries of made. president trump talked about the executive order through which

the u.s. is going to be implementing sanctions. that was a major announcement made by china. i'm very confident that such moves will contribute to the denuclearization. i would like to say that korea will closely cordon eight with the united states on this matte matter. i hope that there will be a display of leadership and i also look forward to engaging in discussions about muscle problems. >> prime minister abe.

>> in the last three weeks, two times north korea launched ballistic missiles, two times going over japan and they conducted six nuclear tests in the scale of the test was beyond the skill of hiroshima bombs more than ten times the scale of the nuclear test, it was two times more. this is intolerable. thanks to donald's leadership, we now have the summit meeting between japan, u.s., and korea. our unity and solidarity that could be presented to north korea, this is quite significant. i would like to thank donald's leadership. u.s. sanctions was adopted unanimously and i would like to

thank the efforts of the u.n. ambassadors. further efforts are needed and in this context of the signing of the executive order, we are going into the new stage, i welcome the new sanctions and i would like to express my heartfelt support for that. we will have the collaboration so we will move towards the nuclear program and we would like to lead into the next action. >> thank you very much everybody. we're also going to be discussing trade transactions and trade deals with japan and

with south korea. that will be very important, but this is something that obviously will take precedent. thank you all very much for being here, we appreciate it and we'll see you later. >> dialogue still possible with north korea? >> sandra: the president wrapping up his remarks there alongside the leaders of south korea as well as japan. breaking news on that new executive order. the president saying he will cut off sources of revenue that fund north korea. he said china, their central bank has told their other banks to immediately stop doing business with north korea. he said just happened.

this executive order he said enhances the u.s. treasury's ability to target those who engage with north korea. on the alliance, he said our alliance with south korea and japan has never been stronger than today. their brutal north korean regime did not respect its own citizens. he said north korea's nuclear program and development is a great threat to peace and security in the world. at the end there, you caught the president being asked, is dialogue with north korea still possible question his response, why not? breaking news, what you think? >> steve: that was really something, watching that. i didn't expect something quite dramatic is that in terms of moving things forward on the isolation economically i'm north korea. and particularly, the china announcement coming in right under the wire in terms of this meeting. >> harris: clearly they were not in that room. there were not at that table. but they made news. >> steve: is a strong set of

economic tensions that anyone would have expected. >> kennedy: it shows china is internalizing the gravity of the situation as this display of the alliance between south korea and japan and the united states, prime minister abe is talking about the military option and that something they are embracing. they're so much reliance on the united states. china is realizing that if it comes to that, they better do whatever they have to do at this point to shore up their part in appeasing north korea. >> harris: i had a couple of things i thought were important. one from the president, he called north korea a lawless regime which means anybody who does business with them as lawless as well which is a different way of threatening annihilation and then when you heard from the president of the republic of korea, moon jae-in. we think this is contextual because the sections will be felt by the people of

north korea so greatly, he said his first words translated, i feel compassion for the korean people, for those north koreans were going to feel this. that's so important. that's the kind of thing everybody has been looking for all around the table and this felt like a monumental moment with regard to that buy-in. >> lisa: it's a strong message to make to the international committee has whelp or their people suffering and north korea very clearly. president trump is obviously able to move the needle to china. we see him take increased actio action. i think that has moved the needle of china. we've seen that in statements recently, we saw that, nuclear

options -- they said they're not going to allow war and chaos on the korean peninsula, so i think we've seen that in the way they've reacted verbally as well. >> kennedy: very quickly, this has to do with what you are talking about, south korea has started giving aid to north korea and you realize there is only people in the country who have family members. they are unable to give indicate with them so you're sending this $8 million, it's also a comment that moon jae-in made when he was running for office that he wanted a more peaceful dip of manic with north korea. he was resisting the fact that the missile system of the united states. >> harris: i thought it was interesting that shinzo abe of japan, he is set it up and sold it with all the missile firings. it was like you had a punch from these leaders. >> sandra: the president said we share a commitment to grading

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♪ >> harris: let's talk health care, a big test looming for the g.o.p. now. senator lindsey graham, one of the sponsors of a new bill repealing obamacare says a vote will be coming within days. >> to my republican colleagues, if you have a better idea, you better come forward with it. we're going to the floor. >> harris: the bill rolls back

obamacare spending and it replaces it with grants to the state. president trump also announced his support for the bill. >> there is tremendous support from republicans. i think it's actually much better than the previous shot which was sad. >> harris: it's still unclear whether republicans can get to that magic number of 50 votes. if they waited until after next week, they're going to have 50. i don't know if you can't lindsey graham, he's looking for a better idea, if you've got it, bring it. >> steve: this bill is based on a principle.

here, there is an idea at the heart which is health care should be run as close to the people effective. it's complete lean notes of the federal government is running something as vast as health care or education or other services. i really believe in the decentralization of power. >> harris: are we confident that we're going to see an onslaught of people answering senator graham's call for better ideas? >> lisa: no, i don't think so. we've already seen some of the heat, we've seen senator bernie sanders tweet out that thousands are going to die regarding a previous health care bill. we saw hillary clinton tweet out that it's the party of death. these are the things that are coming.

this is because of any changes to obamacare. i saw john kennedy earlier saying senator chuck grassley said there is ten different reasons why. >> harris: if you have any doubt that this might pass, former president obama was at an event last night let's watch this. >> when i see people to undo this for the 50th or 60th time, it is aggravating. all of this being done without any plain common sense rationale, it frustrates me. it happens every couple of

months. >> harris: he needs to mobilize every 60 days to fight republicans? he could really just take a sea seat. >> kennedy: all of obamacare was immoral. all you have to do is look at somewhere like alaska. they've gone up even more and alaska and that's why lisa murkowski won the senators from that state and is having a really tough time with this because she has to make sure that if she makes another promise to health care, she would evil to deliver. that is a very important part of the conversation because what are they going to do with that money when medicaid funds are now blocked? >> sandra: algia for my last

pick of time to you >> steve: if your party loses an election, people come in and will try to change what you did. the really interesting thing about all of this, the democrats are going to viciously attack anything that the republicans can come up with to try to repeal obamacare. frankly even if the repeal of obamacare was replaced by signature health care, they'll find a way to attack it because obamacare is basically the only thing that they've got done in terms of a big policy movement. if obamacare goes, what do they have to show?

>> harris: new question surrounding the unmasking of trump officials during the final days of the obama administration. fox news has learned a former u.n. ambassador samantha power put in requests nearly every working day of last year and write up from the time president trump was sworn in. what more we learn? what was she looking for? every day? every day? ♪ ♪ every day? ♪ "grandma! grandpa!" ♪ thanks mom. here we are. look, right up to here. principal. we can help you plan for that. you don't let anything lkeep you sidelined. come on! that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein, and 26 vitamins and minerals... for the strength and energy, to get back to doing what you love. ensure, always be you.

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♪ this before some stunning new information about the unmasking of u.s. citizens in the final year of the obama administration, sources telling fox news that foreign u.n. ambassador samantha power requested the identities of 260 americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reports last year. that average is down to more than one request from every working day that year and even stretched into the final days adding up to to president trump's inauguration. rhonda santos said power and had no making these requests and questions for bill motive. watch. >> it seems inexplicable to me. she was the u.n. ambassador, she had no reason to be involved in what our intelligence agencies were doing at that level, so the scope of those unmasking attempts, i can only confer that

she was looking at it for her own budget meant purposes. i have a hard time figuring out why a u.n. ambassador would need to do that. it's like she's the director of the cia. >> kennedy: speaking of smith the power, she's excited to get questions about her unmasking requests when she testifies before the senate and house intelligence committees, that's happening next month. the more we learn about this unmasking, it seems very politically motivated and it makes you ask it, put intended, is this going to be an abuse of power? >> steve: yes. all of that. what this tells you is going back to our earlier discussions, it's an elite establishment shock. this crew was sitting here thinking, who are these rookies that the country has stupidly elected? we can't trust them, they don't know what they're doing on foreign policy, their crooked and corrupt.

let's get involved in the surveillance because they didn't trust the new and administratio administration. >> kennedy: they have a very dim view of human nature, but it's scary that these tools are meant to catch bad guys. they're not meant to entrap people whom you disagree with. >> harris: be getting some details about when people are being listened to. the circle seems to be getting bigger and bigger of people who they want to unmask. look at all we been covering at the u.n. this week. if she had time on a daily work bases to do this sort of stuff, separate from what she was doing with her job, what was she looking for and how many other people were pulled in? >> lisa: not to mention the fact that a major crime had been committed with the leaking of michael flynn's conversations. we still haven't gotten to the

bottom of who is behind that leak and the only crime we know that had actually taken place thus far, when you couple this with everything you know, the fact that the obama administration changed the rules so classified information could be more easily and widely disseminated across the government, you look to all of these factors and of course it raises and rings the alarm bell. is this political motivated, which it sure looks like. no one has done anything to take this option off the table. >> sandra: i the american people with such great distrust and discussed in some cases of our government at the highest level learning this kind of stuff, you wonder if anybody will ever be held accountable. will we get anything from that, what we learn anything? >> kennedy: no, that's why

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