liberal canada. i guess canada has permanently banned me. canada denied entry because of convictions similar to treason. heather: ugly beauty queen contest. falling into a pool while she tried to do a twirl and splash. rob: "fox & friends" begins right now, that's great. >> as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard. >> you don't kneel in front of a national audience when the national anthem is playing slapping in the face every veteran and cop and every patriotic american who believes that those colors mean something. >> trump supporters divided over who should win the senate race in alabama. >> the big loser has been making a big difference in washington, d.c. and he is just getting started. >> i think roy moore the guy that is going to represent donald trump and fight the establishment. >> two israeli security officers and border policemen shot to death in a suspected terror attack right outside of jerusalem. >> president trump unveils a

new travel order indefinitely and almost entirely cutting off u.s. entry for citizens of several nations. >> the clock ticks down on what is likely the final obamacare repeal push under current voight rules. >> if somebody doesn't fix obamacare soon, the majority of counties in this country are going to be down to one provider. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm coming home ♪ brian: wow, we have a lot to discuss today. much like yesterday. and we're going to do it under the auspices of that logo, "fox & friends." steve: welcome to "fox & friends." it's a tuesday morning news show that starts by talking

about monday night football. ainsley: the nfl betalked about it all day yesterday every tv news station you turned to. brian: they were talking about it on the food network the cowboys won. ainsley: i feel better about in this morning. they are showing it. go through all the elements of what happened at the cowboys and arizona game and we want your reaction and tell us how you feel about it today. steve: as they started the monday night football game last night, the entire america's team, the dallas cowboys took a knee before the national anthem and then everybody stood for the national anthem. but here is that moment of unity. watch this. >> the cowboys players wanted to show unity but they were very adamant about wanting to separate that message from the national anthem. sean? >> as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard from this sell out crowd in arizona. brian: cardinals were standing the entire time

locked in arms. i love the way they talked about this because i'm reading it first. they said smattering of booze. that is loud. steve: there was a lot of boos. brian: lisa jones leaves it to him either implicit or demanded no counsel has taken a knee before -- since this started over a year ago. so this is about as good as you could script it in my humble opinion. kneel before, flag comes out, stand during. steve: there was a lot of booing from the dallas cowboy and the cardinals fans when he this took the knee. but then when the flag came out, well, this is what america had to say. ♪ oh say. steve: well, we had it a minute ago. anyway there was a gigantic cheer when the national anthem was played. >> flag unfurled. arizona was standing in the end zone. they stood locked in arms. here it is right here.

listen to this. [cheers and applause] steve: that's what it looked like. ainsley: the cowboys team stood up when that happened. they knelt down before and jerry jones said it was because we wanted to be unified as a team. weave did not want to be diminished by controversy. we wanted to show a message of equality. he, in fact, donated $1 million to trump's campaign and then when that flag was unfurled, both teams were standing. brian: so two other stories. there are so many different aspects to this. first off weigh in on what the cowboys did. tell us what you think. i think if you were going to show some unity as a team, this is the hard thing, when you are a team, teach from you day one from training camp in front of what these people did cowboys for years. i don't care if you are the quirky guy, funny guy, guy who barely made the team one family united against your opponent. when one person, when you

have something like this so divisive, a coach's job is to find a way to keep the team humble and understand. ainsley: that's a true leader, right? brian: they have to lock arms to sync and pull for each other. however standing during the national anthem does a better job getting their message out. takes patriotism out of it what your message, i want to know. when you disrespect the flag by not standing or the anthem by not acknowledging that's when people go deaf to your issue. ainsley: that's better. i think everybody can be happy with that if you want to protest do it peacefully. we understand that's what they wanted to do with the cowboys also the steelers. yesterday we were talking about the guy alejandro villanueva who came out and stood -- there he is standing right outside of the tunnel he told his team i just wanted to seat flag. didn't realize y'all were so far behind me. they were 20 fight behind him in the tunnel. steve: as it later comes out he later come out and said i

feel like i threw my whole team under the bus. he was supposed to stand with the team captains essentially with the squad but at the last second, he decided to do that. he poked his head out, apparently the team captains were still back in the tunnel. and he felt bad about that image. ben roethlisberger apparently was supposed to stand with him. ainsley: one of the captains. steve: the quarterback for the steelers, apparently what was going on there was chaos back stage and there was a flag being brought through the tunnel or something like that, he couldn't go out. he said later the idea was tunified as a team when so much attention is paid to things dividing our country. i wish we approached it differently. i personally don't believe the anthem is ever the time to protest for me and others on my team around the league it is a commitment to thos t. ia tribute to those who commit to serve and protect our country. current and past. especially the ones that the ultimate sacrifice.

brian: steeler fans are extremely divided on this. pittsburgh penguins are going to the white house. pittsburgh steelers next week i think they are going to have to come up with a different plan. that one they said we don't wants involved in politics so we stay in the locker room. when you stayed in the locker room you signed on to a point of view in this issue. another thing to keep in mind, too. it's fundamentally. this they want to say president is talking about race. they say they are not -- and the players say they are not protesting against the country and disrespecting the flag or the country. i don't think either thing is possible. you can't try to get your message out by disrespecting the anthem and country and expect people to hear what you say next. for the president to keep saying over and over again it's not about race. i believe if the pga or nhl predominantly whites league or tennis was doing this, internationally the president would have the same problem. ainsley: i believe in finding the silver lining for me this morning i feel a lot better about this. these teams, when you are on a team you rely on each

other. you are a family. they are linking arms and saying i don't care what color you are or what your religion sore background is, we are a team and love one another and support one another. although, with that said, we love the american flag, we love this country, so we are going to stand for that it's a win-win. brian: i don't know how they get out of it. steve: that's what i was about to say. that's what they did on monday night football. what are they going to do next weekend? we don't know. all we know is ratings for football for the most part as we have discussed many times on this program are down. last week nbc sunday night football down 10%. foxx down 6%. cbs afternoon games were basically even. but hire's the thing. there are so many people who are fans of these teams, and they have grown up loving their team. they are so angry at their team for doing things like this. taking a knee or doing a protest that they have started to destroy their own stuff. off of facebook and twitter. here is some of them.

♪ oh say can you see ♪ by the dawn's early light ♪ what so proudly we hailed ♪ as the to wait's last gleaming steve: that is arvin gibson who says he was a steelers fan since 1966. no more. a bunch of people burned their stuff. a saints fan took lighter fluid and a match to all her stuff and she said together to the saints. together you have ruined and taken the fun out of sports. i'm calling for a burn of all saints memorabilia. i'm totally disgusted, screw you nfl. ainsley: how about robert williams, he burned $1,000 worth of steelers gear and he said migrate uncle's bones are lying at the bottom of pearl harbor. brian: dollars and cents mean more than burned wind

breakers. first time it's happened. vaughn miller one of the great guys in sports not only a great player, great person "dancing with the stars" might have come into your living room. he has had a sponsor pull out because of his sitting down during the national anthem. that's going to get the nfl's attention. my hope is the nfl understands along with the players' union in the next three days you have to find a way forward because this is only gonna get worse. you waited over a year and that's why we are in this mess. ainsley: going to be interesting to see what the ratings look like this weekend u a lot of people didn't know this was going to happen when they everywhere watching the game. the ratings were down a little bit for abc and fox. actually up for cbs. going to be interesting for next weekend. steve: the pregames this past weekend were really high because some people after the president's comments wanted to see whether anybody was going to stand or sit or, you know, take a knee whatever they did. i think the ratings for the pregame shows were up 30%. brian: by the way, healthcare looks like it's doomed. meanwhile, 10 minutes after the hour. ains susan

collins is not for it. unless ted cruz could change his mind. steve: he would be the fourth. jillian: we do have breaking news to get you to right now. three israelis killed in terror attack just outside of jerusalem. gunman opening fire at the entrance of a settlement west bank killing israeli border policemen and two security officers. police say the palestinian attacker tried posing as a worker at the town's gate when the gun battle broke out. officers shooting and killing him. one other israeli hospitalized with serious injuries. also breaking overnight, a police officer is shot in the face after a routine call turned violent. officer kayla maher ambushed suspects assault rifle as she investigated a suspicious vehicle just outside new york city. both suspects are in custody. officer maher is expected to survive. puertpuerto ricans are so

desperate they are literally spelling tout for rescuers. take a look at the video. people writing help on their roof to try to catch the attention of first responders flying above them. nearly a week after the category 4 devastated the island. the governor is pleading for washington to send more aid. saying puerto rico is on the brink of a humanitarian crisis. millions remain without power or clean water. next hour, we will speak to geraldo rivera live from san juan with the latest on the recovery. a quick look at your headlines as i send it back to you i almost said monday but it's tuesday. steve: it's your first day back in the studio. ainsley: tuesday. don't take us back to monday. steve: thanks, jill i can't believe. ainsley: his story captivated the world when he was captured and jailed in north korea. >> i beg for you to see i am only human. how i have made the worst mistake of my life. ainsley: hard to watch that knowing his fate. otto war warmbier returned to

the united states only to die a few days later. this morning his parents are breaking their silence for the first time since his death. they are going to join us coming up live. brian: that's an important story. what do americans think of their anthem protests, here live for a three hour long discussion. ♪ we're coming to your town ♪ we're an american band when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums

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♪ steve: fox news alert. north korea claiming the united states has declared war on them. the rogue regime says it is willing to shoot down u.s. warplanes even if they're in international airspace. how should that be handled as a threat? jeff stihl is a former u.s. navy seal. is he running for the republican state senate? alabama. he joins us right now from huntsville rocket city. >> good morning welcome to rocket city. steve: thank you very much, sir. as president trump has made very clear that if need be all options are on the table. but north korea right now is saying, you know, bring it on essentially. what should would he be doing? >> well, i think we are actually doing the right thing. let's go back over 20 years in '94 when clinton made a deal giving $4 billion of

energy aid to north korea. fast forward 20 years in 2014 and have you president obama saying is he not afraid to use military might. and now we are dealing with the problem of intercontinental ballistic missiles. here is the issue in 2013 we knew they had nuclear capability and they could make a war head. we should have done something then because we didn't have to deal with the ballistic missile. now we do. i completely agree with the trump agenda, the president's agenda. steve: of course right now why are in the diplomatic phase where it should be great if the country of china would help us out and squeeze north korea. >> you know, this is the key to everything is working with china to squeeze that umbilical cord to start cutting off the oil going into north korea and cutting off the imports to take to north korea. they said they will do it. we will see. steve: jeff, you are a successful businessman in north korea.

why do you want to get into politics and run for senate. >> we need a change in montgomery. our state is suffering from a lack of political courage. we need someone like myself. i will take it down there to, you know, with those values and principles that i had as a seal. and that's leadership and honesty. we can't afford to continue doing it the way we have been doing it. so, for me, bringing down -- working on our education system for our kids-excuse me, for the future of our kids, working on passing economic and good legislation that supports business. these are the key things we have to do. most of all, we need to bring, you know, some ethics back into montgomery. steve: well, we know you are very active in the community. we know rob o'neill our friend the navy seal is going to be doing a big fundraiser for you down there. >> he is. steve: you are at that location because our man todd piro is going to be taking the pulse of alabama

later today from that diner. jeff still, we thank you for your service and being here today. >> thank you, steve. steve: his story captivated the world when he was freed from north korea only to die six days later. >> i beg that you see how i am only human. how i have made the worst mistake of my life. steve: otto warmbier's parents have not spoken on television since his death until today. they join us live next.

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>> bless his heart, otto was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor for apparently trying to take a propaganda poster from a hotel. >> that's not the image that i have of my son in my heart. we were told early on by the past administration that we were urged to keep quiet and we accepted that. >> we'll be fine as a family as soon as you get home. >> hang in there, tiger boy. you're coming home. >> the department of state has secured the release of otto warmbier. >> we're also thankful to rex tillerson and to president trump. they wanted otto home. otto is not in great shape right now. he has been through a real tough time. >> he has not engaged in any purposeful movements or behaviors. >> otto has been terrorized and brutalized for 18 months. >> a young college student back home to his parents unresponsive and in a coma. >> i knelt down by his side and i hugged him and i told him i missed him and i was so glad that he made it home. i'm able to wear the jacket

that he wore. >> i just wanted to pass on word that otto warm beer has just passed away. >> i haven't ever seen him that disturbed or emotional in a very long time. >> our thoughts and our prayers remain with his wonderful family. ainsley: tough to watch. otto warmbier's parents are heehere. thank you for being here. why did you decide you wanted to tell your story now? >> thanks for having us, ainsley. it's been three months since otto has died and we buried him. and our family has had time to come together and process this horrible situation, do some healing. but now we see north korea claiming to be a victim and that the world is picking on

them and we're here to tell you north korea is not a victim. they're terrorists. they kidnapped otto, they tortured him. they intentionally injured him. they are not victims. they are terrorists. and we're here to tell the story of what it was like when we met otto at the airport or to share with you what it was like when we met otto at the airport. ainsley: well you said, we just want you home tiger boy and cindy, you said when you are home, we are going to be just fine. they sent him home in a coma and six days later he passes away. what was that like when you saw him for the first time after being gone, separated from him for a year and a half? >> we thought he was in a coma, but you couldn't call it a coma. when i talked to senator portman that morning, he said oat to otto was on a plane coming home and i asked him

is there brain damage? he said there is severe brain damage. so, what we pictured because we are optimists was that otto would be asleep and maybe in a medically induced coma and then when our doctors here would work with him and he would get the best care and love that he would come out of it. and fred is going to tell you what happened when we went on the plane. >> i will describe to you what it was like for our family when we met otto at the airport. we were in a waiting room with the medical team as the plane arrived u it was determined that the medical team would go on the plane before our family. they went on the plane five minutes or so later they came down and they said it was time for our family to go to the plane. it was myself, cindy, austin and greta. we walked over to the plane. the engines are still humming. they had just landed.

we walked up the steps. when we got halfway up the steps, we heard this howling, involuntary inhuman sound. we weren't really certain what it was. we climbed to the top of the steps, and we looked in and otto was on the stretcher across in the plane and he was jerking violently, making these inhuman sounds. cindy and greta ran off the plane. austin and i walked over to otto. otto had a shaved head. he had a feeding tube coming out of his nose. he had -- he was staring blankley into space jerking violently. he was blind. he was deaf. as we looked at him and tried to comfort him it looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth. within two days of otto

being home, his fever spiked to 104 degrees. he had a large scar on his right foot. north korea is not a victim. they're terrorists. >> they destroyed him. >> they purposely and intentionally injured otto. ainsley: as a parent, how do you get through that? how do you move on from this? >> well, you know, we weren't prepared for what we had. and then when we saw otto the way he was, we loved him. we're proud of him. but no mother, no parent should ever have gone through what we went through. and the fact that otto was alone all that time with no one to comfort him is inexcusable. and whatever -- whatever happened, why would do you this? this is not -- ainsley: why do you think they sent him home? >> he was going to die. >> how can you get what a

terrorist country does? ainsley: true. >> they are terrorists. this is what they do. they kidnapped otto. they tortured him. ainsley: they beat and tortured him for allegedly trying to steal a propaganda sign. he is 21 years old. university of virginia, one of the toughest schools to get into. he is a bright kid. what is your message for this administration? i know the past administration you said they told you to stay silent. you credited president trump and his administration for bringing your son home. what message do you have for him now as we are dealing with this awful, evil dictator kim jong un? >> absolutely. it was astounding to cindy and i to discover that north korea is not listed as a state sponsor of terror. we owe it to the world to list north korea as a state sponsor of terror. ainsley: how are your other children doing, austin and greta? >> amazing. >> yeah. greta and i -- when greta ran off the plane, and i was

so worried because she was screaming because our image of otto as you know was of someone just wonderful, beautiful inside and out. and to see how he came home was too much for us. but i almost passed out, but i got it together and i rode in the ambulance with him because i did not want him to be alone anymore. he had been alone for way too long. and we stayed with him and loved him as best as we could. ainsley: i'm glad you got to be with him in his final moments. >> we did. ainsley: thank you both for being with us. >> thank you for having us. thank you. ainsley: more "fox & friends" coming up in just a moment. can i get some help. watch his head. ♪

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>> wanted to show unity but adamant about wanting to separate that message from the national anthem. sean? >> all right, lisa, and as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard from this sell out crowd in arizona. brian: that was not a smattering by the way and that was the cowboys last night after weekend that saw more than 200 nfl players kneeling for protesting the national anthem. sunday night football saw lowest ratings. off 8 to 10%. debate over patriotism and politics seems to be dividing the country and that's why we are here. we have a great panel of our parents, business owners, former athletes and professors together to hash this thing out unscripted and from the heart. we are going to focus on all three hours do one of these segments and don't worry if you don't say anything now you will soon. first get to burgess owens. first off, you watched that last night.

you stood during the national anthem during your playing days. do you like the way dallas handled it, knee before the anthem stand arm in arm before the anthem. >> if they are going to make a message that's the best way to do it at this point. all about hope and. that's what our flag has. whatever they can do not to disrespect the flag and still guess the message out i'm okay with. brian: emily you heard more than a smattering of boos, the fans are divided from the players in many respects. emily come pagliano know is a former federal cheerleader and defense attorney most importantly you are here. emily, your thoughts on that? >> i agree with burgess. communication is the most important message remember that owners have the option of terminating players if their conduct is deemed detrimental. i think as this conversation progresses and we see there is a level of acrimony it might get to that level. brian: kyle ray yes, sir ceo with the silent partner marketing group most importantly, kyle, you are a dad. a lot of the dads are

turning around and not showing up. one actually concession worker left in the middle of the game after the players took a knee. have you given second thoughts in to the nfl can sort this out about going to a game. >> of course. i mean, americans don't want politics shoved down their throat in football. they want beer and wings shoved down their throat and to see this divisive nature that's happening right now with the nfl, people are very polarized. you see it all over social media. people are sick and tired of having this shoved down their throats and feeling disrespected. brian: sean parnell you are actually a former teammate a military teammate. green beret teammate of alejandro villanueva with the pittsburgh steelers who came out of the tunnel and put his hand over his heart for the national anthem. however, he now regrets doing that do you believe can you separate the message from the military if you sit out the national anthem? >> no. i mean, i don't think that you can take a knee for the national anthem and say you support the military at the

same time. i think it's wrong. and i think that the whole message of the protest and what it was initially founded on is lost. donald trump does what he does best. and he spoke to the hearts of what the vast majority of americans feel and that people that play a game for a living in this country and make millions of dollars doing so should, regardless of what they believe, stand up and thank god that they live in this country that allows them to do that. brian: the president of the united states says this is not about race it's about respecting the anthem. the players say this is not about the anthem, it's not about the country. this is about race. where do you stand? >> about race? brian: yeah. >> i think there are issues about race and it's not about -- i don't think necessarily kneeling or standing. there are deeper issues systematic inequality injustices happening every day and that's the real issue. brian: you are chris, right? >> no, caleb. brian: caleb retired army

lieutenant. you see racial inequity in this country do you like what the players are doing. >> i can't say that i like what the players are doing but i like they're taking constitutional rights and taking a to me. it's not that i agree with one side or another. i don't think at the end of the day it's not about taking a knee or standing. it's about understanding what america represents and my teammate villanueva put his hand over his heart. people protesting are protesting hoping that those same ideals are equal for everyone. brian: deneen, if you were able to get the message out differently, is sports the right forum? if you don't make it the anthem, if you make it something else but do talk about some racial inel equity in this country is, that a better way to do it? >> i disagree with the fact that they are doing it on the football field, brian, because there is a time and a place for these players to protest. of course, they have that right to do so. but, what they are doing is

alienating thousands, if not millions of their consumers, the fans who want to just have fun just as you the gentleman just mentioned. have a good time with their family and their friends but, instead, we are being lectured by individuals with their message that they should be doing on their time and their dime not the americans. brian: ph.d. professor and political comment territory, wenty, how have you seen this whole thing evolve from collin kaepernick taking a seat to maybe 12 players following him to now 1200. are you happy the way it's trending? >> i am happy the way it's trending. what we have to know is that politics and sports have has been intrinsically woven over time look at yuan putting their fist up. muhammed ali saying he won't go into the draft or the way jackie robinson mlb. this has transformed into collin kaepernick and others. we have to be clear, they are not protesting the flag. what they are protesting is social injustice and that's what's important.

brian: wenty, that would be very interesting and could be 100 percent true you can't separate people's image of taking a knee in front of the flag with i'm not protesting the flag. don't you see that image? >> no, i don't. because we can walk and chew gum at the same time. it's not a binary decision. can you protest the flag. and the other respect can you say actually no, we are not protesting the flag, we are protesting social injustice. it's not one or the other. brian: you just went over the debate. show of hands right now how many people think you can separate the method of protest with what they're protesting? how many people by show of hands yes, i can separate the kneeling from the lack of patriotism? so three of you. how many can't? how many show of hands think there is a racial issue in this country and needs to be addressed? everybody. >> there are issues of racism.

listen, we are not a perfect country there are clowns out there that is racist. it's not blanket across the country. what 70% of these players are black players. they are making millions of dollars. are you going to tell me that there is institutional racism in the nfl? these guys would not have this opportunity if that was the case. >> you see that's problematic for us to say that right? the reason i say that is because recently we just saw a player who went to the may weather fight and he was thrown on the floor because he was seen as a black man. they didn't know he was an nfl player. we cannot say because people are okay in society like myself i'm a professor i do not face racial inequities because i do. because i do because i do. brian: seattle defensive lineman. >> these this is where the facts actually matter. in this room the police ask everyone to stay where they were, so they could sort out what had happened. he ran. when the police give that you lawful order and you disobey it, that's what happens. so let's stay on the facts on this. by the way, if these players really want to protest

collin kaepernick started the police and injustice and shooting of blacks by police officers, then turn around from the flag and police on the sidelines behind you. we don't have that. this has gone beyond what it was originally supposed to be. if they want to have the guts, turn around and protest the police who protect the parking lots, their lives on a daily basis. brian: we have to stop right here. there is two more thundershowers go after this. there are no wrong answers. we want your answers. don't take a shower. we need you in the same outfits in just a little while. president trump is issuing a updated travel ban. what does that mean? and can it put an end to the controversy in judge napolitano says not so fast. he is live next. then all eyes on alabama today for the big senate run off. what do the voters think? todd is having breakfast with friends in huntsville, alabama. and he will tell us whether it's going to be luther strange or judge moore ♪ you don't have to worry about it, baby ♪ wake me up

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ainsley: president trump expanding the travel restrictions in his border order. the ban now covers these 8 countries including north korea, and the move the president says is to protect americans. steve: new order prompting the u.s. supreme court to make big changes to its calendar. here to break it all down fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. have you been on this couch a number of times over the last seven months or so talking about how you have felt the travel bans were unconstitutional. the supreme court is changing its calendar. how so? >> well, because the present ban, the one that is? place right now, which expires, depending upon how you count today or friday. i don't want to get into the

wise about the difference in the three days but it's definitely expiring by friday will no longer be exn. existence on october 10th the what is october to 10? the scheduled day for oral argument. if the travel ban is not in existence. no case before the supreme court. it's moot. now the president writes a new travel ban which in my opinion aaccommodates all the problems in the first two. it addresses the issue of religion. it addresses the issue of bonafide family relationships. it gives reasons unique to each country why we have to have stricter controls in those countries. it basically takes all the judicial objections. all those cases the judges wrote against the first two and plugs them in. ainsley: when it comes to religion and comes to the relationship? >> it establishes if you have a bonafide relationship in the united states, a job offer a university offer or a blood or family relative. steve: uncle?

>> yes. then you are not subject to the ban. you still are scrutinized and vetted and they can do the extreme vetting on you. there is no absolute block. in terms of religion there are two countries in there that are not muslim. north korea predom. the aclu and those folk also say this is just a mask. it's still a muslim ban. so well written to address all the problems the other two bans had. steve: why didn't they have this guy write those two? >> good question. brian: will it stop the appellate courts from weighing in? >> no it won't. this kicks in in two weeks. i'm willing to bet that some judge will enjoin it before it even kicks. in under the constitution, the president and the president alone sets foreign policy. under federal law, the congress gives out president the authority to enforce these bans. i just don't see how judges

can get involved in this on their own for their own political agenda. these are my former colleagues, brian. brian: i love the way the judge ends a segment, that's all there is. we will get a platform next time. steve: thank you. brian: 4 minutes after the hour. steve: coming up next hour great two hours to go. laura ingram is going to join us and lowe holts. lou holtz. todd is having breakfast with friends in huntsville. that's coming up ♪ scenari ♪ southern nights ♪

♪ ♪ ainsley: all eyes are on alabama today as voters are getting ready to head to the polls for the run-off election to fill jeff sessions vacant senate see seat. brian: some people are on the ballot besides these two luther strange and judge roy moore. is this really trump and bannon they are going head to head in this contest. steve: todd piro is they blue plate cafe are in huntsville, alabama. >> good morning. todd: brian hit the nail on the head is this a bannon vs. trump? is this a sarah palin vs. trump? is this trump and mcconnell vs. the nonestablishment? so many questions. so we are here asking the voters what they think. i am going to start out what we call the strange table not because of these people but because they are voting for luther strange. your name, man? >> christie. todd: you said you are voting for luther strange because you like the president. >> yes, that's right. you are obviously a huge

trump voter. you worry that roy moore will go rogue like mow brooks and he is not going to enact the agenda. what do you need for the president's agenda. >> i need more people in washington that's going to support president trump and repeal and replace obamacare. i need to send someone to washington that's going to do that. todd: understood. i'm going to go over here to buy. colby is shipping off to the army on monday. he says i'm voting for strange because that's what the president wants me to do. >> that's correct. stood. todd: you say you are a little worried about moore because you say he can be beaten by a democrat. explain that. >> well, i have been hearing from a lot of people that if strange become does what he is supposed to and runs like a good person, he will. todd: you think that the president will get to do -- the president will -- strange will do what the president needs him to do. >> basically. todd: understood. go over here to paul and larry. i love what you said

earlier. you said you are voting for moore and even though you are a huge president trump voter, you said everybody makes a mistake every now and again. including yourself. explain that. >> well, i have backed a loser or two in my lifetime. you still have to try your best to figure it out. i think we have chosen moore because he is not establishment. he hasn't been in washington for years and years. and we're hoping that he can go in and actually help the president. todd: understood. all right. we have a lot more people to talk to. including one table so interesting. we will talk to them at the 6:30 hour. really interesting stuff here. we will toss it back to you guys in new york. steve: very latest from the blue plate. todd. thank you. brian: difference between the two states. fox news alert now. desperate pleas for help. geraldo rivera is live in san juan with the growing humanitarian crisis. steve: bet you were wondering what hillary clinton thought about the anthem protest. she has weighed in. guess what? she slams the president.

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if you've got a life, you gotta swiffer respect the flag, still get the message out, then i'm okay with it. >> i don't think you can take a knee for the national anthem and say you support the military at the same time. >> he attacks black athletes as he did, and he does it once again to dog whistle to his base. >> hillary clinton is a racist demagogue. she is dividing the country on racial grounds. >> all eyes are on alabama tonight as the primary race to fill an empty republican senate seat intensifies. >> president trump unveils a new travel order. >> takes all the judicial objections, all those cases the judges wrote against the first two and plugs them in.

>> the clocks ticks down on what is likely the final obamacare repeal push under current voting rules. >> this is not the last chance. this is the best chance. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ living in america >> ♪ doorbell for the control room. we are able to go on our i-phone and television and see what the doing. >> are they yelling the us back there? >> we can see. that's actually them in realtime. ainsley: time to roll on. y'all are taking too long. they are so amazing. this he do all the hard work. we get the credit because we are on tv. steve: good morning to you. thanks for joining us on this tuesday. on this tuesday morning you

are probably wondering what happened on monday night football. would somebody take a knee at the big game last night? and the answer is yes. america's team, each and every one of the dallas cowboyes took a knee along with the owner jerry jones right there. that was before the national anthem. and what they did when they -- as you can see right there when they were all down on one knee, there were a lot of boos. listen. >> the counsel players wanted to show unity but they were very adamant about wanting to separate that message from the national anthem. [crowd boos] >> sean? all right, lisa, as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard from this sell out crowd in arizona. ainsley: i thought the crowd thought they were going to stay down on their knees during the national anthem as we all would have. steve: it looked like it. ainsley: then it they all stood up when they unfurled that flag and the audience

went crazy. listen. >> [cheers and applause] how beautiful is that? brian: very well choreographed. i think it gets the message across. if the nfl players wanted to do something before the game a year ago. if collin kaepernick humanitarian muhammed ali mission -- where did this come from? i think the people would understand more. the questions would have been more salient and focused on. the fact that the players chose the anthem is what is dividing the country. ainsley: exactly. brian: and made the president so irate in alabama on friday night. steve: the president got this whole thing started on friday night and the president himself just about 20 members ago started tweeting. and apparently he saw the video we have just played. he writes the booing at the nfl football game last night when the entire dallas team dropped to its knees was

loudest i have ever heard. great anger. but then he saw the next bit of video. while dallas dropped to its knees as a team they all stood up for our national anthem. big progress being made. we all love our country. brian: all right. actually, i don't think we're right. in one way i love what dallas did the fact that the cardinals are there. their arms are together. it shows the team is a team. i'm curious to see what the nfl has got -- i said three days. they actually have two days because they have a thursday night game. they have two days to address it. it's going to be worse and worse and worse. force people who want to look at this as an american protest to stay home. people like at this as racial injustice protest to show up. do nothing good for the league, sports, or the country. the nfl last to step up. ainsley: they should do what the nba did. they they should come together and coaches should agree.

if you want to take a knee do it before the anthem when they unfurl the flag and sing the star-spangled banner you need to stand up. brian: i look for the nba to break what they did last year. judging by what lebron james was saying yesterday and what popovich, coach of the spurs. they are probably going to be doing the same protests in a few weeks. ainsley: we will see. steve: what is going on there, ultimately a lot of people don't like what they have seen in the past. maybe they like what the cowboys did last night. i was talking to. so guys who are the biggest sports fans i know have been watching football forever. i asked about the flag thing, said, you know what? didn't see it because stopped watching last year. they were so fed up with just before the game there is five minutes worth of stuff and somebody is saying. is somebody going to take a knee. it has impacted their tv ratings a little bit. down about 10% across the board over last year. meanwhile, hillary clinton, while the president made it very clear when he was heading back to washington on air force one. he said it's not about race. it is about the flag.

hillary clinton was over on msnbc and she disagrees with that. >> he attacks black athletes as he did starting with his rally in alabama, continued on twitter. and he attacks them for protesting peacefully for equality, for standing up for what they believe. and he does it once again to dog whistle to his base and to try to detract attention from other things that are going on. but it's quite telling that he is willing to attack black athletes. he never says anything of an insulting manner toward white supremacists or neo nazis or clue deluxe clanellers or vladimir putin, right? brian: you know 2016 will never end. i'm sure democrats just want her to go away. how long is this book tour. continuing to hit as same way as if the election has not been settled already. president, golfers were doing this or hockey players

were doing this or pga were doing this, any sport currently predominantly white. i don't think he sees race in this. the players say it's about race. that's where the rubber hits the road. about the president's staff, the vice president went out and backed him up. sarah huckabee sanders went out and backed him um and so did general kelly. he tweeted this out, chief of staff, i believe every american should cover their hearts and think about all the men and women maimed and killed. every american should stand up and think for three lousy members. steve: that was after apparently there was a cnn report out that said that john f. kelly was upset with the president and then the president said that's not right and then john kelly came out with that newt gingrich former speaker of the house looks at what hillary just said and said essentially, that she is using racism as a weapon. listen to this. >> hillary clinton is a racist demagogue. i mean, let's be blunt and straight out about this thing. she can't possibly debate on

the merits any of the things we are talking about. i mean, she is using racism as a deliberate weapon. she is dividing the country on racial grounds as a deliberate political weapon and exactly the model of liberalism which can't possibly survive if they don't constantly go back to racism. brian: newt gingrich was on his game yesterday. i watched him on sean hannity. moved to 9:00. he had a big feature. before you start this, steve you might agree. the most humble story interview you did with otto warmbier's parents 30 minutes ago. this is something all america should see. ainsley: they talked about what happened to their son when they saw him for the first time when he came back. >> steve: remember who he was. he was that university of virginia student who extraordinarily decided to go to north korea for a little visit and got arrested. ainsley: allegedly for taking down or trying to take down a propaganda

poster. that's it. they contain him for a year and a half, and his parents said they tortured him. tortured him so badly it caused him to die. we interviewed them and they said this is what happened when they saw him for the first time when they -- when his plan leaned on the tarmac and they went on to the plane to see their son. >> they said it was time for our family to go to the plane. and otto was on the stretcher across in the plane. and he was jerking violently, making these inhuman sounds. otto had a shaved head. he had a feeding tube coming out of his nose. he had -- he was staring blankley into space jerking violently. he was blind. he was deaf. as we looked at him and tried to comfort him, it looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth. how can you question what a

terrorist country does? ainsley: true, true. >> they are terrorists. this is what they do. brian: they also did something to his feet. he was tortured. for those questioning why president trump put them on the terror list, that's why. they are a terror nation. that's what they are table of. that's the first time. ainsley: absolutely. that's the first time they talked live on television. since their son died. they said that the last administration told them just to stay quiet. they would try to get him home. everything would be okay. stay quiet. they said they had had enough. when president trump was elected, they called him. they talked to the state department. they had him sent home. and this is exactly what happened. that's what they -- you know,s a mother you hold your baby the best day of your life when you hold them for the first time. have you all these plans for their life. this kid was 21 years old. went to the university of virginia. that's such a tough school to get into. not only was he smart, he was so sweet. he went over to north korea on a trip for college and comes home in a coma. and they said he was blind and deaf.

his teeth had been rearranged. brian: 48 hours he was dead. north korea responsible. ainsley: to be considered terrorists. you know, kim jong un did that to their son. you know, killed his own brother, his own uncle. this is an evil man. brian: 11 minutes now after the hour. steve: great interview. brian: i hope they get invitation to the white house that would be great. 11 minutes after the hour. jillian, have you other news. jillian: breaking news out of new york. let's begin with this. a police officer is shot in the face after a routine call turned violent. officer kayla maher ambushed by suspects with an assault rifle as she investigated a suspicious vehicle outside >> come this officer has been shot. we are right behind the suspect. jillian: both suspects are

in custody. officer maher is expected to survive. in just a few hours construction will begin on proto types on president trump's long promised border wall. >> build that wall. build that wall. build that wall. jillian: six companies will build a total of 8 models for the government to choose from south of san diego. half will be made of concrete. the rest will be made up of other materials. congress is now working to pass nearly $2 billion to start funding the wall. ivanka trump is heading to trump today to promote stem and computer science education. the vote comes one day after president trump signed a memorandum directing $200 million in funding to science, technology and engineering in schools. quicken loans is expected to announce a significant private sector commitment to those programs at today's event. that's look at your headlines as i send it back to you guys. ainsley: good for her. jillian: thank you. steve: we have another fox news alert. pleas for help literally

being spelled out on the rooftops in puerto rico as that humanitarian crisis grows. geraldo rivera is live in san juan once again today. he is coming up next. brian: if anyone can help them, it's them. the polls are about to open in alabama for the big republican runoff. senator luther strange joins us live in just a few minutes. ♪ sweet home alabama ♪

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brian: wear back with a fox news alert. puerto rico on the brink of a humanitarian crisis. steve: people lining up four hours for fresh water and gasoline to keep their generators if they're lucky enough to have one on. good news, some help sob the way. ainsley: fox news correspondent at large geraldo rivera. his family lives down there. we have been talking to him over the last few days. look at this. lining up for gasoline? steve: over a mile long and keep in mind, it's not like you can fill up your whole tank. everybody gets a certain amount of gas. people waited hours yesterday. if they're lucky enough to have a gas can. brian: keep in mind, too. it's not enough to have gas. you need power to pump the gas so if you don't have

power for the gas station, they have backup generators and gasoline owners say my good yz where are we going to get this money. i'm sure my logic would say that puerto rico did not have that same rule that new york got. steve: apparently they are pumping the gas there keep in mind how do you have refrigeration? it's 90 degrees down there. it's caribbean island. ainsley: it's touch and go, too. we have heard from friends here that have family down there that cell phone service is spotty in places. and geraldo rivera went down to visit. we talked to him yesterday on the show. we want to talk to him today. every time we try to go to him we can't get a signal. brian: there is problems. for the most part, texas and florida are rehabbing. they seem to be on the right track. i know not everything is that smooth. but not right now. puerto rico needs mass influx of water power and

aid. i hope the government reacts because i don't think puerto rico has got the financial wherewithal to handle it themselves. steve: they are $70 billion in debt owed to a lot of u.s. corporations and things like that separately though. the problem for puerto rico is their power grid. the power poles, all the wires 100 percent gone. ainsley: samaritan's purse has been down there helping. they take huge cargo planes full of supplies down and drop them down to the people which is great. steve: when we had franklin graham on last week he said he had been doing a deal with lowe's, the big home contractor where you buy stuff, i would call it a hardware store. a big hardware store to get 1,000 generators. they had already taken 1,000 down and take another thousand down this week. ainsley: they said lowe's was giving them a good deal. nice of the ceo to do that. poles getting ready to enup in alabama for the huge run off between judge roy moore and senator luther strange. the senator is going to join us live next.

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including the cancellation of free speech week. steve: happening today the republican runoff election between senator luther strange and judge roy moore in alabama. president trump is putting his support behind senator luther strange. >> i think that luther will be absolutely fantastic in terms of agenda. he wants the wall. he is very, very tough on crime. we hope we can keep him in the senate. he loves alabama. i will tell you what, he loves the state and he loves the country. to me, very importantly, is that he will absolutely win against the democrat. steve: joining us right now is the man he is talking about senator luther strange hot president also refers to as big luther. because, luther, how tall are you? >> 6'9". 6 feet inches.

steve: if you were elected actually you are the tallest american senator in u.s. history, right? >> that's right. we had to have an argument about it on the senate floor but they certified it. so that's one accomplishment anyway. steve: that's one thing. of course you would like to get elected today. it's a curious situation because you are, for the most part, the establishment candidate many people have said. and, yet, donald trump, who is kind of a drain the swamp antiestablishment president, he is for you. explain that. >> well, i can assure you, steve, if i were part of the problem. >> the president wouldn't be down here campaigning so hard for me. last night we had the vice president here. i have been in washington less time than the president has and we have become friends, personal friends. we have the same goals, same agenda and so i think it's a narrative being created because there are other agendas out there. people don't like mitch mcconnell, for example. other things going on. i'm keeping my eye on the ball which is the president's support and his

agenda. steve: the president is supporting you he has tweeted this out in the last half hour. luther strange has been shooting up in the alabama polls since my endorsement. finish the job. vote today for big luther. and i have seen the polls down there. they have turned around for you. you are up right now though it, comes down to what for you? >> totally comes down to turnout. in a special election runoff it's who gets their voters to the polls. that's why the president's support, the vice president's support nra and other groups mean so much to me. we have got to get people to the polls. 17% voted in the first run off. first primary. that's terribly low. we have got to get them to the polls. steve: luther, why do you want to be a u.s. senator for the next six years. we have all been watching what's going on regarding healthcare, the republicans can't get the ball across the finish line. why would you want to spend your time essentially spinning your wheels? >> well, you know, i spent six years as attorney general fighting the obama

administration. we won, we stopped illegal amnesty. religious liberty. i was playing defense. >> i want to be on offense with the president and vice president. this is a turning point in our country. we can't have any more obstructionists, any more people that just want to give speeches. we need results, conservative results. that's why i want to be up there. i think that's why i have hit it off with the president so well. steve: you know, over the last seven years, republicans have you all said for the most part, reelect me, elect me and i will make sure that if i'm ever given the chance to repeal and replace obamacare, i will do that. now, there are at least three. there could be four. ted cruz says he wants to talk to the president about what's going on right there right now. for the folks looking in, what is your message to these republicans who have said in the past they would vote to fix obamacare and now given the chance aren't gongonna. >> i have told them publicly and i have told them privately behind closed doors we have got to fulfill

our promises. i'm the one out here taking the brunt of the failure to keep their commitments. i can understand the frustration. i'm the most frustrated person in the senate, believe me, because we made these promises. we haven't fulfilled them. and if we don't do that, we will pay a heavy price at the polls and rightfully so, frankly, for not fulfilling those promises. steve: all right. luther strange, who would like to win today in the runoff election down against judge roy moore. by the way, we did invite the judge on. they declined the invitation. luther, thanks for joining us and good luck to you. and right there he probably said thank you. all right. meanwhile, straight ahead, what do you think voters there think of the runoff? todd is having breakfast with friends in huntsville and that is coming up. plus, how do americans really feel about those anthem protests? we have a panel of former players, professors and parents here for a live, must-see discussion live coming up next. ♪ ♪

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♪ >> he attacks black athletes as he did starting with his rally in alabama, continued on twitter. and he attacks them for protesting peacefully for equality, for standing up for what they believe. and he does it once again to dog whistle to his base and to try to detract attention from other things that going on. but it's quite telling that he is willing to attack black athletes. he never says anything of an insulting manner toward white supremacists or neo nazis or ku klux klaners or vladimir putin, right? ainsley: i had a whole list of questions for this panel. during that sound bite of hillary clinton you are making comments under your breath. let me stick with this first. went is a professor, a

liberal political commentator. let me ask you first what you think of hillary clinton's comments. she is saying it is about race. do you agree and why? >> hillary is now private citizen, so she has the right to her opinions. however, we have to look at the facts. the facts are donald trump has only attacked black athletes. we have, you know, dale earnhardt who has come out and said okay it's okay to take a knee. tom brady has said you know what? it's okay to protest. we have to continue to look at the facts and what is clear here is that ther there is this attack. there is the flag. there is also the confederate flag which has also been divisive. he has not made comments about that. let's have that conversation. ainsley: lisa i'm watching your reaction. lisa is a trial attorney and a mother. lisa, why are you shaking your head? >> well, first of all, the one thing that we all do as americans is we stand united during the anthem. so, in that regard, i don't know how anybody could support not standing during the anthem.

as far as the comments that we're seeing and if it's racial and if it's not, i think honestly taking a knee maybe that isn't enough for these players and maybe that forum isn't that forum. maybe they should go beyond taking a knee and take a stand and vocally tell the public what it is that they are supporting and what it is that they are specifically protesting. maybe they can go beyond that. maybe they can raise awareness in a different way. but, to take the forum in a -- taking a political setting in a public forum and as a mother, i have a 10-year-old, guy to the jets games, yes, season tickets jets ticket holder. ainsley: will you continue to go to the game? >> i will continue to go to the games but i don't appreciate having to have a political conversation with my child at a game. i think it's the wrong forum. i think that we have to be more respectful of who we are as americans. and the nfl is living the american dream because of what has come before them. ainsley: let me see show of

hands of people who think it's okay to take a knee in the middle of the anthem? okay. we have three of you that think it's fine. what about those who think it's okay to take a knee as long as it's not during the anthem? >> unless they are taking a water break. >> i think people are mis -- i don't think these protests are wrong. i just think they are misguided. i think that the most important thing to remember here is that the national anthem is symbolic of the fact that we as americans have the opportunity to protest. so a protest during the national anthem is a protest against the very thing that allows to you protest in the first place. it is a misguided protest. i actually agree with. so positions some of these people are taking and i would gladly share their sentiment. not during the national anthem it is misguided. ainsley: this is chris have a let that author of team works played for the titans the saints and the bucks. alsalso played for the nfl. for the lions. the nfl picks all of these

different free speech points. you can't honor breast cancer. you can't honor 9/11. you can't honor those dallas police officers. is there a double standard here? >> absolutely. i think that this is a strategic move from the commissioner. it's kind of a genius move because now it did i investigators all the attention from the real issues being the cte issues, domestic violence, sexual abuse, we're not talking about those things anymore. so there is a double standard in that regard. but i think it was also a strategic move from the commissioner. ainsley: i want to go to emily behind you emily cam elm m primyou.>> remember, this is a workplace, so i wouldn't presume to tell a professional athlete that they cannot use their platform to be part of a larger conversation but as a point was addressed earlier, i believe that specificity is what is most important. and gestures that are so divisive are causing

acrimony that ultimately owners can terminate players for doing anything that's injurious to the league or to the franchise. and i think a lot of athletes engaging in communities and really taking specific distances and doing specific things enables us as you the entertained to understand what things that they are discussing and what viewpoints that they hold dear. that's the most important thing to me. ainsley: let's go to the lady sitting next to you dr. genially zane kno >> we haven't talked about the political end of this. you started with this clip hillary clinton using terms like dog whistle. i call out the president on the same kind of language. i do think there are points on both sides. my struggle is i'm teaching students, young people, and i have young children. i want them to learn how to be disagreeable and agreeable in a way that is collegial. we need to be able to talk about things. as opposed to the president coming out and using terms

that i can't even repeat on tv, why doesn't he engage in a conversation and lead by example? hillary clinton the same thing. we need to elevate the political discussion in this country. he has a fair point. he disagrees with this. he is the commander-in-chief. he has every right to say it but say it in a different way. and say in a way that allows us all to engage in a conversation about important issues and not bring us down to this level. and that, to me, is what is so frustrating because that's what we're trying to teach our children. and i agree it's difficult. you don't want to go to a sports game and engage in a political discussion with young men. ainsley: we go to sports games to get away from politics. ainsley: kisha, sitting in the front row she is an attorney and mom. i want to hear what you think about this. i woke up this morning and saw that jerry jones and his team were kneeling down but then they stood up when that flag was unfurled. okay. i get that you want to protest, you want to show that your team is united. it's not about blacks or whites or how voted for which i thought was a little refreshing. how did you feel about it? >> i agree with you and i

feel that these actions are actually a very effective way for african-americans to be heard. i would rather this happen instead of people out in the streets rioting or looting. i think they are just expressing their feelings. just because you are paid millions of dollars as an athlete doesn't mean you can't exercise your constitutional right to freedom of expression. i think it's effective because look at how much attention it has received from the media, from the government. and i think our president does not have the right to tell these private entities to fire someone just for exercising their constitutional right. >> yes, he does. >> no he doesn't, sean. ainsley: this is sean parnell retired u.s. army ranger and same battalion as alejandro villanueva the steelers player who walked out in the tunnel. >> he was so big we can't send this guy to afghanistan he can't fit in the trucks. he went to afghanistan. ainsley: god bless him. >> three deployments. he is an amazing guy. he was inspiration to anybody who loves this

country. ainsley: it's taking out of context. he does regret coming out. it's not that he regrets standing for the flag. he regrets he wasn't unified with the team. he thought they were coming out behind him and they were 20 feet away from him. >> that is villanueva doing what he has always done and putting the team before himself. and i applaud him for that but, let me ask you. what is this protest all about? it was first about racial inequality and then it was about police brutality and now it's what nfl players united against -- they are all protesting locking arms protesting donald trump. >> that is a problem. instead of focusing on oh they are taking a knee how do we address these problems? african-americans in the community want to be heard. there is racial injustice going on. >> you justify raising -- doing things -- there are other ways to address these problems. >> we are not being heard. >> j.j. watts raised million dollars of dollars for hurricane relief.

there are things can you do outside of taking a knee that will be much more of a legacy building for these athletes whose careers will be over by the time they are 27. ainsley: burgess i couldn't get to you my friend david and deneen i didn't get to you. we have then pa. y'all are coming back up with steve. we will make sure we get your views out there as well. so i apologize for that legendary college football coach lou holts and our friend laura ingraham who is getting her own show in october. we are equities sighted to have her full time here at fox. todd piro is having break breakfast with friends ahead of alabama's senate run off elections. todd: today is the big day run off between luther strange and roy moore. of course we are talking to the people about who they are voting for and eating cocoa business cuts. check that out. more "fox & friends" when we come back. ♪ sweet home alabama ♪ lord i'm coming home to you

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jillian: good tuesday morning. back with quick headlines. canada welcomes refugees with open arms but leaving chelsea manning at the door. convicted government leaker says the country denied her entry because it considers her crimes to be treason. manning tweeting a letter from canadian immigration officials. she plans to challenge that decision. and the maine senator is hard at work lobbying for lobsters. independents submitting a formal request to add a lobster to the new emogi keyboard on smart phones. it's necessary so supreme to fish, process, serve or otherwise admire the loanster can. >> a.c.: rattily express themselves. can we get the white wine

emogi. steve: because there is a red wine emoji. if you need loblester you are going to need a bib on. ainsley: roon.ains rosea or pin? steve: all eyes are on alabama today as voters down there get ready to head to the polls for the run off election to fill jeff sessions run off seat permanently. ainsley: luther strange and judge roy moore going head to head in that political contest. brian: todd piro is talking to them right now at the blue plate cafe in huntsville. hi, todd. todd: good morning, guys. we have a lot of diverse opinions on this. but everybody here agrees we need a cocoa biscuit emoji. it's going to happen, folks. i begin with don. as you might be able to tell from the hat voted for donald trump. he is a business owner and voting for luther strange, why? >> i back both candidates. i feel that luther had more business leadership for our llcs and also we both have

something in common. we are both eagle scouts and both proud of that. todd: good stuff. you said you actually like the fact that he is a lobbyist/consultant, correct? >> absolutely. it's okay to be a lobbyist as long as all meetings with congressman and senators are documented. >> that is a great segue way to larry. larry is a retired sheriff in california who lives here in alabama now. is he a trump voter. but he is voting for roy moore. why are you voting for mr. moore? >> because we don't need another lobbyist in washington. we have enough of those and they're -- as far as i'm concerned, destroying this country. todd: as a big proponent of the president and all that he stands for, you are giving the president a mulligan with regard to his endorsement of luther strange. you said that's all mcconnell's fault? >> yes. i think in a way it is. he is financing the whole thing for luther strange. and i think judge roy moore will do a great job for us. todd: understood. thank you. now we get to virginia. and virginia i actually have

to look at the card because it's very confusing. are you ready? virginia is in real estate. she voted for hillary rodham clinton in the 2016 election. she is an independent so she can vote in this election. and she is voting for roy moore. can you unpack all that for us? >> if i were voting today i would vote for roy moore. i can't. just the reason is i am for doug jones. and the reason i'm for doug jones is because he is not a lobbyist. he is not -- doesn't think he is above the law. and he just seems to be a more reasonable candidate. todd: what's interesting about what virginia said a number of people in this diner said the reason they are independent and could be voting for roy moore or rooting for roy moore because they think he has a worse chance against doug jones. virginia is definitely in that camp. thank you, virginia, for your time. there is also, whenever you are in alabama, the opportunity to take a vote of a different kind. i think you all know what i'm asking. is it war eagle or go tide? >> roll tide.

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brian: the dallas cowboys along with owner jerry jones taking a knee before the

anthem last night in a show of solidarity and then they stood up for the national anthem. this comes after 200 players took a knee on sunday during the performance. by the way the cardinals stood the whole time. here to react is legendary football coach and new york jets lou holts. first off, coach, how do you feel about the president weighing in on this? >> well, i think that let me make sure i understand this right. 200 nfl players making millions of dollars takes a knee, disrespects the flag and the president the leader of this country doesn't have the right to say i think that's wrong? this is a workplace environment and he has a right to fire people. he has a right to speak out his mind. this isn't about race. it's all about a philosophy. brian: coach, the players say it's about race. racial injustice in the country. it started with collin kaepernick and now it's gotten bigger and they say they love the flag, they love the anthem. they want to make a point. >> i think there is other ways to make a point. i believe that they love this country. i have been to korea.

i was in korea in june. i have been to afghanistan. i have been to iraq and seen the sacrifices that soldiers have made so you can have freedom. the freedom in this country is the freedom to make good choices. people are making bad choices and somebody else has to be held responsible for it. that's not what this country is all about. i know an awful lot of nfl players and coaches have visited our troops overseas. but the most important thing if you are going to win, you have to have a solid locker. in college have you them in the classroom in study hall they are in the dorm. whereas the nfl the only time they are in together is in that locker room. if you do not have unity in the locker room you do not have a chance to win. that's why you are seeing so many people trying to come together and show unity is to be able to have a togetherness to win. brian: coach, get me out of this. if you are the nfl, how do you get out of this? there is nobody winning here. >> well, i will tell you this. number one, i don't believe that i would say to our football team we will not

use our football team for any personal cause. we will not use it to promote abortion or anything else. as an individual i will support you. but you will not bring that onto the team. i feel the same thing about the nfl. this is about the ability to win. and here's what i would say. i wish that president trump would put me in charge and get the athletes to go into the inner city high school. have you 32 different cities. go into the nfl and talk to the young people about making good choices. you are in the nfl because you made good choices because you worked hard. you developed your skills and talent. you didn't join a gang. it's all about making choices. there are thousands of words in the english vocabulary and most important word by far is choice. we have got' away from it somebody makes a bad choice it's somebody else's fault. that's not what this country is about. brian: if the players tell you i'm doing this coach and you say you are not, you are are going to have a team that's conflicted and is going to lose. how does that help anything? what do you do? >> okay, here's the problem. say we have a problem in the nfl. we don't have a

disagreement. brian, if that player wants to win, for example, he is upset because we're not throwing the ball enough, i want to run the ball. we have a difference of opinion because we have the same goal to win. you are on that football team, i want to win and you want to promote a cause, that's a problem because we have different objectives. you join this team and all come together. we have one common cause and that's where we are getting away from what it is. that's why the coaches and owners and everybody else sees this happen and they know they can't win if everybody has a different objective for being on the team. brian: it's not fair you are not only a great football coach you are a great communicator. you shouldn't be that good at two things. thank you for talking to me and i have got to talk to you again as this thing unfolds. >> always a pleasurable to be with you. brian brian coming up straight ahead, laura ingraham weighs in and gets ready for her show october 30th. don't miss "fox & friends." you never know who is next. to most, he's phil mickelson pro golfer.

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>> as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard. >> as they protest against the national anthem, it's a protest against things that you can protest in the first place. >> what is this protest all about? >> all eyes are on alabama tonight. >> we need results. conservative results. this is a turning point in our country. we can't have any more constructionist. >> in just a few hours, construction will begin on prototypes for president trump's long-promised border wall. six companies will build a total of eight models to choose from. >> a travel order. >> it takes all the judicial objections. all those cases the judges wrote against the first two and plugs them in. >> the clock ticks down on what is likely the final obamacare repeal under current voting rules. >> this is not the last chance. this is the best chance. ♪ ♪

brian: perfect album? steve: no, he's just lazy. on that album. ainsley: we've been interviewing this panel all morning. brian did it first hour, i did it second hour, they're coming back up, and you have a lot of questions for them. steve: we sure do. there you see them about half an hour ago talking about the pledge and the national anthem or standing or taking a knee. ainsley: a little jealous? brian: yeah, i'm a little jealous. ainsley: gavin, can you please? steve: let's bring in the newest member of the fox news family, laura ingram has a

brand-new show that's going to be starting at the end of october. the ingram angle and laura joins us this morning. good morning to you. >> early trick-or-treat. brian: you were on hannity last night live and then we get you up again. >> that's okay. brian: do we have a cot in the makeup room? >> it's fun. pajama parties. we have a good time. all the makeup artists are good people. we're good friends. steve: we just play john and have laura as a guest. that's all we do. plus, we're talking about the national anthem whether or not to stand last night with the cowboys. america's team. they all took a knee, and they all got booed before the national anthem but then afterwards when they brought out the flag, they did stand for the national anthem. brian: what are your thoughts? >> jerry jones back in august said he disagreed with the whole anthem protest, and he was right when he said that. i think he was trying to strike a balance with supporting the nfl as a whole and supporting the country and

the flag, you know? i've met him a few times. he's extremely patriotic, loves the troops, does a lot for the troops. jerry jones himself meant no disrespect. but i will say that i think this entire exercise of the taking a knee has grown so tedious, and i think most folks watching these games to the extent that people are still watching, i think a lot of people are annoyed by this. it's not about the players. it's not about us or the media in general or the nfl. this is a civic tradition that we encourage all americans to participate in because it precisely stands not for an individual, not for president trump, it doesn't apply to a particular policy or an administration or a supreme court decision or a police brutality investigation, the anthem applies to the country as a whole.

and if you do not stand for the national anthem, most americans, i believe truly believe you're disrespecting the country. so you might despise the president, you might hate everything he does, you have a right to do that. but that civic tradition is important as a type of glue that holds our society together. we are one nation under dog indivisible with liberty and justice for all. now, what makes us indivisible? our freedom? our liberty? we encourage our children, we teach our children, i hope, as they grow older at games and public events, you stand, you take your hat off, you put your hand over your heart, and if you can sing, sing it. it's an honor. and i think most people believe these players should just be grateful that they're paid millions of dollars to play a gammas our men and uniform keep them safe at

night. so i love seeing the veterans who are, you know, on these teams speak out, and i think they're skating on thin ice here, the nfl, and i think they're already paying a price. and the price will grow steeper with less attendance as time goes on. brian: main thing, how do you get out of this? and do you think the president should have weighed in on this? >> you know, you could make the argument that, you know, you elevate people like kaepernick and the other anthem kneelers by even engaging. i kind of think with someone like steph curry, i would say, look, -- i like steph curry he's an amazing player. would love to have him at the white house. but his it's prerogative. invite all champions that meet that level of athletic achievement. we look forward to meeting all champions. if they don't come? sorry, next time. i actually think that makes the president bigger and the

protest smaller. however, i understand his frustration, and he speaks on the gut in these things, and that's a gut check for america. i do think he's speaking for a lot of americans when he says he's tired of this. but you also elevate the protest a little bit when maybe he might not have done -- i could go either way on it. steve: but between the president and the protesters, though, are the fans. and we were running a little video earlier of all of these fans who are destroying their memorabilia because they just feel like the teams and the players and the nfl let them down. >> it doesn't surprise me. meanwhile, the illinois shirt is the number one jersey selling in the nfl. the nfl ranger that defies the steelers. and, meanwhile, he goes out there and the coach says, no, we have to be unified on this. you can't go out there. he goes, oh, really? i don't think so. i don't think so. brian: yesterday during a press, he apologized for doing

that. so let's move on and talk about the things as secretary of defense mattis, he doesn't have time for football, he has to defend the country. let's talk about health care. ainsley: so we heard this morning, last week, it sounded really promising that something could happen this week, that it could be repealed and replaced. there are four "no" votes for the gop. you have susan collins, senator rand paul, senator john mccain, and senator ted cruz. now, ted cruz aids are seeking changes to the bill so that he could vote for it. but still, it won't be enough. once you get three, it's not passing. >> the problem here is that republicans botched it at the kickoff to stay with the football analogy. they just botched it from the beginning. now they're up against this supposed time deadline, and they're trying to cram through something that isn't a real repeal. i think rand paul is right on that. is it better than nothing? maybe. but they're here because mitch mcconnell couldn't get the job done on full repeal. they're here because the

republican party in a reprehensible manner has failed the working class people and the voters who elected them to do what they claimed they would do. it's not about susan collins or john mccain or -- it's not about that. if you are going to be the leader of the senate, you need to get your coalition together or stop promising things. just say we're going to do this -- you know, kick the can down the road thing for the next x-number of years. stop promising that you're going to lead and improve the country. brian: and stop going on vacation. they've gone all of august, gone again in september. when things get tough, they go home. it makes no sense. but in the big picture, repeal and replace is done. do you think that president obama -- excuse me president trump and steve bannon are on the ballot today as well as luther strange and judge moore? >> i actually don't. i think that president trump was right to say on friday whoever wins this, he's going to support vigorously because,

obviously, it's better than the democrat alternative. i think it does remind us of this, though. conservative populatism isn't about one person. donald trump gave it the voice and the platform and a muscular defense throughout this campaign, and he went on offense on all of these issues. but it's really -- in the end, it's about the issues. and the issues matter in this race. i didn't endorse either candidate in this because i just didn't think it was my place at this moment. but i do believe that the people of alabama know their future better than anyone else. and they're going to pick the candidate that they believe best advances the trump agenda. i don't know who they'll ultimately pick. i guess it would be roy moore. but i guess it just reminds us this movement -- as donald trump said, it's not about him. it's about the country moving it forward down on political correctness, et cetera, et cetera. steve: we're currently looking at luther strange who is a senator of the great state of

alabama. he and i believe his wife are going into a polling place in birmingham, alabama, and i think it's safe to say we know who he's going to vote for. >> again, it's a good lesson for everyone watching that substance matters. the left will tell us that donald trump won because of his celebrity or his reality show background or because, you know, he's a straight talker, the republicans screwed up. no, he won because of the issues. he represented the forgotten man and woman, and he needs to remember that, and this election might tell us a little bit something about where the voter's temperature is. brian: and, laura, finally. don't break up with us just because you have a 10:00 show. >> never. i'll never sleep. ainsley: thank you, laura. great to see you. jillian has a fox news alert for us this morning. >> that's right. good morning to you as well. this is a story we've been following all morning that's breaking overnight. a police officer shot in the face after a routine call turned violent. officer kayla mayor ambushed by suspects with an assault rifle as she investigated a suspicious vehicle outside

new york city. >> come get this officer. shot in the face right behind the suspect. we're going to move. >> both suspects are in custody. officer mayor is expected to survive. today construction will begin on prototypes for president trump's long promised border wall. >> build that wall. build that wall. build that wall. >> six companies will build a total of eight models forgetful to choose from just south have san diego. half will be made of concrete. the rest will be made up of other materials. congress is now working to pass nearly $2 billion to start funding the wall. the supreme court canceling its hearing on president trump's previous travel ban. justices now need to determine if the pending case is moot after the white house announced new travel

restrictions. earlier, judge napolitano said people will still take issues with these new rules. >> willing to bet that some judge will enjoin it before it kicks in. i just don't see how justices can get involved in this for their own political agenda. >> the supreme court hearing was scheduled for october 10th. a look at your headlines on this tuesday. back to you guys. steve: busy day. ainsley: thanks, jillian. a fox news alert desperate pleas for help. people waiting days for fuel and the lines are only getting longer. geraldo herrera is live in san juan next. steve: and what do americans really think about those anthem protest? a panel, nfl players, professionals, military parents here for a live must see discussion. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. you're coming up next.

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>> my family is struggling, like everyone else, ainsley. it is, you know, when civilization is tested the way puerto ricoian society has been tested with no electrical power and no water, you know, some awful things can happen. behind me, just to give you an idea of the absolute disruption of society here, those folks aren't in line for gas, they're in line to get money out of the atm, the credit card emhas been busted. people cannot access their credit cards. they can only get to selective atms for their money. so the lack of water and gasoline, there's also the lack of money, of cash to pay for it. the president last night finally addressing this critical issue in a series of tweets. i'll read them. puerto rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure and massive debt is in deep trouble. it's all the electrical grid, which was in terrible shape, was devastated much of the island destroyed with billions of dollars owed to wall street

and the banks, which sadly must be dealt with. food, water, and medical are top priorities. and doing well. i don't think they are doing well with due respect to the president, and i think what we need here in puerto rico is more compassion. i mean, everything is busted here. this gas station can't pump gas. that's a high-rise. these condos near the ocean, that has no elevator. there's no water. if you want the flush the toilet on the top flow, you have to walk up 20 stories to get a gallon of water to flush it. and the electrical grid, which they are saying needs to be repaired, it doesn't need to be repaired, it needs to be totally replaced. it is savage. the business behind us on the other side of the highway here, absolutely destroyed. i don't know when and how they can get that up and functioning again. but the main thing is water, food, compassion, and a

massive rebuilding program. this isn't the time for blame. this is the time to help a fellow american citizen, steve and ainsley. steve: you are right about that. geraldo, thank you very much. perfect way just to show us how everything around him is all messed up. ainsley: puerto rico, croatia, there's so many people hurting. steve: meanwhile, our next guest defending our flag for 26 years and watched his fellow marines die for it. up next, he is disgusted by the nfl. he has a message for the commissioner that you don't want to miss ♪ can i get some help. watch his head. ♪

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>> hope you're having a good morning so far, passengers scramble to evacuate when planes are filled with smoke moments after touching down in las vegas. >> we do need the highway clear. >> need to wait for the fire department to check the plane before the let us out. we didn't have oxygen. >> airlines blaming the smoke on a mechanical problem. none of the 150 passengers were hurt. and a woman is snatched off the street and stuffed into a car. surveillance video in los angeles showing the woman tried to kick and fight her way out of the man's arms. witnesses say she was screaming for help. the identity of that woman and her suspected kidnapper still unknown. brian. brian: as the 2017 nfl season is well underway, we're now into week four. an openlered by commissioner rodger goodell back in 2016 is resurfacing. it's addressing the anthem

protest that are on social media today and the number one story on most news channels like this one. ainsley: that letter was written a acquiring. turns out, not much has changed. that letter stating many friends, marines, and special forces soldiers who worked with or for me through or fought with me through the years returned home with the american flag draped over their coffins. now i watch multimillionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game respect or disrespect what brave americans fought and died for. brian: that's an excerpt from his letter. joining us right now is the man behind the letter. retired opportunity learn general. when the giants were getting a new stadium, and they had no place to play. colonel, are you surprised we got to this point? >> yeah. i am surprised, and you said huge giants fan. that's past history now, brian. no longer a giant fan. no longer a fan of the nfl.

fed up with it, actually. brian: why? >> it's out of control, and they're spitting on the graves of our fallen. and today you just announced some police officer got shot in the face. there's cops lining up right now as we speak throughout the country for roll call. they don't know when they're going out there what's going to happen if they'll get home to their families or not. but they're the bad guys. and overseas probably right now in afghanistan and syria and iraq, you get guys with rucksacks waking 100, 120 pounds, high altitude day in, day out, maybe third, fourth, fifth deployment. they come back, if they come back at all, if they come back alive, but, you know, these guys don't care. it's all about them. that's all it is. ainsley: colonel, tell us the story of your friend sergeant

garrett. >> yeah. we were in desert storm in saudi arabia training. i used to go visit the guys out there in the companies and, you know, they want to talk about football and, of course, he was a jersey guy like me, and we were doing the jersey routine with each other, and he's a giant fan. and this football thing brought everybody together. and in the core, everybody's greem. some are dark green, light green, and they'll die for each other. there's none of this racism and everybody accusing everybody of everything else. but it was all tight. all your football teams and where you're from. garrett never got to see that super bowl that the giants played in. him and 13 other marines from our task force came back with flags but flags draped over their caskets, you know? and it just. brian: that was the anthem that the new york giants won.

>> yeah. brian: and whitney houston sang the national anthem. arguably the greatest national anthem, partly because we were at war at the time. but seeing so many pictures now, colonel, they're saying they're not disrespecting the country. they love the country. they're just trying to send a message. do you buy that? >> i don't buy that at all. i heard you asking before can you kneel and still support the troops? no. no. you kneel, you're spitting on them. that's what they all think. there's thousands of americans out there that are fed up, they're up to here, you know? and to the point now, you want to dance? dance. you want to kneel, kneel. do a break-dance, for all we care. dance on each other in the end zone. we'll call it dancing with the morons from now on. have your team go in the safe space in your tunnel and hide there until it's safe to come out when the national

anthem -- it's disgusting. it's pathetic. and lone ranger comes out, and i applaud him for that. but it was really pathetic and rodger goodell is not a leader. he has allowed this thing to permeate. and they're going to go down. people are going to -- i'll tell you right now. boycott. boycott these people. see this here? high-tech weapon. it's called a remote control. bang. yeah. cut them off. brian: thank you very much, colonel. appreciate your time. thanks for your service. all right. two minutes before the top of the hour. what do americans think about the protest? we have a panel, former nfl parents, professors, and others here for a live discussion. they were just on facebook live. when i look in the mirror everyday. when i look in the mirror everyday. everyday, i think how fortunate i am. i think is today going to be the day,

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>> the cowboys players wanted to show unity, because they were very adamant about wanting to separate that message from the national anthem. sean. >> all right, lisa, and as they take a knee collectively, boos can be heard from this sellout crowd in arizona. steve: and that's how it went down last night with america's team, the dallas cowboys, everybody took a knee. there were a lot of boos, but that was before the national anthem, they all stood up, locked arms, and watch the national anthem play out. is that a good prototype to where we go from here? joining us now, live town hall panel, we have people from all walks of life. let me ask you this. a series of questions. show of hands. according to the nfl game operations manual, all players must be on the sidelines for the national anthem. they've got to be standing up, they've got to be looking in the direction of the flag.

if you don't, you're subject to a fine. who thinks going forward if people don't do that, they should be fined in the nfl? who thinks they should be fined. most of you. who does not think they should be fined? professor, why not? >> because this is bigger than these guidelines. and let's be clear here. i do not think that this one, soul issue is the only issue that the nfl should back. i also think they should allow other issues to come into the mix because we cannot -- we cannot separate the sportsmen from major social injustices, and that's what we're trying to do here. steve: but what is getting accomplished by taking a knee? >> and i think us having a town hall is getting accomplished, and i think we need to take this type of conversation on a national level for us to continue to talk about issues of social injustice, social racism, and move that forward. steve: denene, you're right behind her. what do you think? >> this whole issue could have been avoided. you just mention the conduct

code that the nfl has. rodger goodell has failed the nfl, failed the consumers who spend thousands of dollars to buy tickets, seat licenses, go to the games, and have fun. what they're going to realize rodger goodell, the owners, the players, the coaches, they need us. we don't need them. so they'll see what will happen as this continues. but if they continue this, there's a fox and friends poll. 94% of americans are opposed of what the nfl is doing. steve: uh-huh. david. >> you mention the rules. the rules that your employer has set. and the professor just said, well, there's a bigger issue than those rules if you choose not to follow them. they're actually protesting where this started. the police, claiming they didn't follow the rules. so who gets to which set of rules you get to follow? the police have to follow the rules, that's what they're calling for. but the nfl players don't have to set the rules. i work for fox. fox has rules.

if can i don't follow them, fox can fire me. steve: absolutely. and keep in mind one thing about the dallas cowboys is the fact that it was within the last year where they actually asked the nfl to honor our fallen policemen who were ambushed by that guy down in dallas, we want to wear a little emblem. and the nfl said "no." so, you know, they followed that. >> that is the main problem is that there's no consistency in their policy regarding this. steve: the envelope has made this worse. can i see the hands? who think so the nfl is the big villain here? >> one thing we need to point out while we're talking about rules, the department of defense paid the nfl to have these athletes stand for the anthem. years ago, this wasn't even required. they stayed in the locker room. >> segregated south, jim crow -- steve: you played in the nfl. >> i played in the nfl. a lot of people don't realize

through the '40s, '50s, '60s in the black community led the growth of the middle class. led our country in men committed to marriage, in entrepreneurs. we were doing the things we needed to do because we believed in the flag. and i remember in 7th grade bringing the flag up and putting it down. because i had a dad who taught me to be proud of that flag. and every defeat i've gone through, i can say in this country, i can get picked back up again. steve: right here in the front row. also from the nfl. >> thank god we live in this country because there was a woman who was publicly executed in north korea and her crime was watching a movie. that's the reality and thank god we don't have those issues in this country and by god's grace, we never will. i think what's important is the national anthem is representing the fact that this live in this type of country. that moment, those seconds, however long it takes to sing that anthem is the time when all of us should stand shoulder to shoulder, hand on

heart and proclaiming the fact that we live in a free society that affords us the right to protest whatever we want. and i happen to feel that the protests are valid. they are, as i said, just misguided. you have to do it elsewhere. the anthem is not the place to do it. and, steve, i agree. i think the nfl is all disjointed here in terms of them not creating policies and rules. steve: let's not talk about the nfl. let's talk about the nhl. the national hockey league for a moment. there was a couch that came out last year and said anybody who's going to sit for the national anthem is going to sit for the whole game. who thinks the nfl could take a lesson from the nhl? >> at the end of the day, the consumers are going to vote with their wallets. they're not going to go to games, they're not going to purchase products. but advertisers are going to very with tens of millions of dollars. when we start moving money out of the advertising arena and start making our own statement on the impact of lack of patriotism here on the nfl or

nhl. >> the flag affords us the opportunity to protest. if i'm working for an employer, they have the right to set the rules. if they don't want to knee, i can't kneel. but beyond that, the idea you can't protest the flag, that's the very thing it stands for. you can't desecrate it, but you can protest. that's what we're allowed to do. steve: let me ask you this. we know that the protests have been going on for over a year. but it was gigantic this weekend; right? how many think it was because of donald trump who made this a big issue? >> absolutely. steve: so we're all together on this. go ahead. >> you should be -- look, hang on, one second. made the comment earlier if you go into a starbucks and right before you order your drink the person behind the counter starts to spout off their political views, they could be subject of termination. you're an employee of the business. i play in the nfl. believe me, they make it clear you're an employee. the rules are gray, and that's

the problem. steve: the thing about the protest on sunday, which so many people lost this was the fact that sunday was national gold star mother day. and one gold star mother was in attendance and, sean, i think you know this story. you're not in your head. and she saw somebody taking a knee, and she lost a -- took a breath, and she goes they're protesting the flag. the same flag that my son came back in a coug coffin in. >> by the way, there's a lack of understanding of history, and i want to give everyone an example. in the uk, the nfl players stood for god save the queen. british colonial adventurism and slavery under british colonies was the biggest, call it, beneficiary of that. then they kneeled or they didn't stand for the country that reversed the course of racism, the united states of america. learn your history, is my point. understand the context of what you're protesting. steve: listen, this has been

a -- >> disrespected the gold star family if we're talking about history and as colin kaepernick what he should do to protest, a military person told him to take a knee and don't sit. so let's talk about that history. steve: professor, colin kaepernick got it started. you're absolutely right. we're going to step aside. great debate today. thank you very much. up next, the interview that everyone wants to see, ainsley sits down with the parents of auto warmbier, they say their son was murdered by terrorists in north korea. ♪ there's nothing more important than your health.

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>> we'll be fine as a family as soon as you get home. >> hang in there, tiger, boy. you're coming home. >> has secured the release of otto warmbier. >> we're also thankful to ricks tillerson and president trump. they wanted otto home. was not in great shape right now. and he's been through a real, tough time. >> has not engaged in any purposeful movements or behaviors. >> otto has been terrorized and brutalized for 18 months. >> a young college student back home to his parents unresponsive and in a coma. >> i kneeled down by his side, and i told him that i missed him, and i was so glad that he was home. i'm able to wear the jacket that he wore. trump: i just wanted to pass on word that otto warmbier has just passed away. >> i haven't ever seen him that disturbed or emotional in a very long time.

>> our thoughts and our prayers remain with his wonderful family. ainsley: tough to watch. otto warmbier's parents are here. fred and cindy warmbier. they join us now in their first television interview since that day since their son came home and then passed away. thank you for being here. why did you decide you wanted to tell your story now? >> thanks for having us, ainsley. it's been three months since otto has died, and we buried him. and our family had time to come together and process this horrible situation, do some healing. but now we see north korea claiming to be a victim and that the world is picking on them, and we're here to tell you north korea's not a victim, they're terrorists. they kidnapped otto, they tortured him, they intentionally injured him. they are not victims. they're terrorists. and we're here to tell the story of what it was like when

we met otto at the to share with you what it was like when we met otto at the airport. >> well, you said we just want you home, tiger boy, and, cindy, you you're home, we're going to be just fine. they sent him home in a coma and six days later, he passes away. what was that like when you saw him for the first time after being gone, separated from him for a year and a hal half. >> well, we thought he was in a coma, but you couldn't call it a coma. when i talked to senator portman that morning, he said otto was on a plane coming home, and i asked him is there brain damage? and he said there's severe brain damage. so what we pictured -- because we're optimists, was that otto would be asleep and maybe in a medically-induced coma. and then when our doctors here would work with him, and he would get the best care and

love, that he would come out of it and fred's going to tell you what happened when we went on the plane. >> i'll describe to you what it was like for our family when we met otto at the airport. we were in a waiting room with the medical team as the plane arrived. it was determined that the medical team would go on the plane before our family. they want on the plane five minutes or so, later they came down, and they said it was time for our family to go to the plane. it was myself, cindy, austin, and greta. we walked over to the plane, the engines are still humming, they had just landed. we walked up the steps. when we got halfway up the steps, we heard this howling involuntary, inhuman sound. we weren't really certain what it was. we climbed to the top of the steps, and we looked in, and

otto was on the stretcher across in the plane, and he was jerking violently making these inhuman sounds. cindy and greta ran off the plane. austin and i walked over to otto. otto had a shaved head, he had a feeding tube coming out of his nose, he had -- he was staring blankly into space jerking violently. he was blind, he was deaf. as we looked at him and tried to comfort him, it looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth. within two days of otto being home, his fever spiked to 104 degrees. he had a large scar on his right foot. north korea is not a victim. they're terrorists. >> they destroyed him. >> they purposely and intentionally injured otto.

ainsley: as a parent, how do you get through that? how do you move on from this? >> well, you know, we weren't prepared for what we had. and then when we saw otto the way he was, we loved him, we're proud of him, but no mother, no parent should ever have gone through what we went through. and the fact that otto was alone all that time with no one to comfort him is inexcusable. and whatever happened, i mean, why would you do this? this is not -- ainsley: why do you think they sent him home? >> he was going to die. >> how can you question what a terrorist country does? they're terrorists. this is what they do. they kidnapped otto. they tortured him. ainsley: they tortured him for allegedly trying to steal a propaganda sign. he's 21 years old. university of virginia. one of the toughest schools to get into.

he's a bright kid. so what is your message for this administration? i know the past administration, you said they told you to stay silent. you credited president trump and his administration for bringing your son home. what message do you have for him now as we are dealing with this awful, evil dictator kim jong-un? >> absolutely. it was astounding to cindy and i to discover that north korea is not listed as a state sponsor of terror. we owe it to the world to list north korea as a state sponsor of terror. ainsley: how are your other children doing? austin and greta. >> amazing. >> yeah. greta and i -- when greta ran off the plane, and i was so worried because she was screaming because our image of otto, as you know, was someone just wonderful. beautiful inside and out. and to see how he came home was too much for us.

but i almost passed out, but i got it together, and i rode in the ambulance with him because i did not want him to be alone anymore. he had been alone for way too long, and we stayed with him and loved him as best as we could. ainsley: i'm glad you got to be with him in his final moments. thank you, both, for being with us. >> you're welcome. thank you for having us. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney. he has a new business teaching lessons. rodney wanted to know how his business was doing... ...so he got quickbooks. it organizes all his accounts, so he can see his bottom line. ahhh...that's a profit. know where you stand instantly. visit quickbooks-dot-com. you know win control? be this guy. check it out! self-appendectomy!

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steve: big senate election down in the state of alabama today, and that is right there on the left-hand side of your screen, you can see the cafe in huntsville, and that's where todd is talking to the voters. ainsley: it looks so bright and beautiful there. >> it is bright and beautiful, ainsley.

we're in the south having a great time. and what's interesting about the segment we're about to do, this is our stem segment. you heard the president talk about science, technology, you heard about stem and all between the vote of roy moore and. we're going to hear from a aerospace engineer who voted for trump and voting for roy moore. why? >> because he's a fiscal conservative, because he stands for the people. he's going to -- he's going to stay solid and stand -- he has a backbone. he's going to clean up the swamp. he's going to do what he says. he's not going to go to washington and then join the boys club and not -- yeah, he's not going to back wash and not do what he says he's going to do when he gets to washington. >> your buddy carol disagrees with you. you guys are friend.

carol's a pharmacist also voted for trump, but you're voting for luther strange. why? >> he is a conservative. i'm a christian conservative, and i think that he'll go up there, he's already working with people. he's working with shelby's office. he's already doing a good job to work for all of the people of alabama, and he is a conservative christian as well. >> quickly, though, we have ten seconds. you're a nuclear engineer, you voted for trump. you're voting for roy moore. why? >> because he -- when he works -- >> i can summarize what he told me earlier. he said you don't mind luther strange, but you just like roy moore better. >> yeah. i believe that luther will be more someone who does just what trump wants. >> all right.y, my friend. we're going to break. more fox and friends when we come back this is the story of john smith. not this john smith.

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