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>> jon: we are back in an hour, "outnumbered" starts now. >> sandra: fox news alert, a big blow to the republican establishment heard loud and clear. christian conservative roy moore winning over luther strange. he's telling his supporters who will help make america great again, despite the fact that president trump stood for his rival. this is "outnumbered," i'm jenna smith. with us today, harris faulkner, the editor of townhall.com katie pavlich. former state department spokesperson under president obama, marie harf is here, and today's a #oneluckyguy, fox news senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano and he is
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outnumbered. >> judge napalitano: thank you for having me. >> sandra: elect to get to, let's begin. we have a winner and alabama come outside or roy moore beating senator luther strange by nearly ten points despite being outspent 10-1 and despite president trump campaigning for senator strange. even though his guy lost, analysts say the president may come out the winner too since he and moore are of the same drain the swamp cloth. this was echoed in his victory speech last night. >> together we can make america great. we can support the president. don't let anybody in the press let you think that since he supported my opponent but i do not support him. in support his agenda. >> sandra: meantime, president trump raising moore's victory tweeting this is morning. spoke to roy moore of alabama
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last night for the first time. something really great guy who ran a fantastic race. he will help to make america great again. and there you have it, what did you make of all of this? >> judge napalitano: they are both friends of mine, chief justice moore and senator strange. i was very strongly in the moore can't because i'm the antiestablishment type myself. i think the president made a mistake by violating ronald reagan's 11th amendment, thou shall not campaign against a fellow republican. it's one thing to support a fellow republican and a primary, it's another thing to bring the machinery of the federal government including our vice president down there the weekend before the primary. this is a rejection of a different donald trump. these two men are very similar in their attitudes about government and about the establishment. i'm the funneled as to why he was on luther strange's side unless he had to make a deal with mitch mcconnell, who is
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also a big loser here. >> harris: i thought that too. maybe it was one of those things of there's a guy running, he really thinks the state would flip anyway, like it's going to may remain republican, so what would it hurt to have a little mojo behind the guy running? >> judge napalitano: is a serious democrat? >> marie: karl rove called roy moore this year's todd akin, which is interesting. >> harris: he's the guy who won "american idol" ." >> marie: no, that's clay aiken. he lost to joe donnelly of indiana. indiana is not alabama. this was a campaign run against mitch mcconnell and that was very clear. i think the democrat is a very
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serious candidate for alabama. >> harris: look at the spread of how president trump one over his opponent in november. you can't wipe that away, it doesn't really matter. i don't know if you've seen online, because we are on social media a lot together. it is lit up for him today. >> katie: people are excited, they're moving forward. the president deleted his tweet supporting luther strange and then tweeted out support for roy moore, so they're both moving forward to implement the president's agenda. also keep in mind that this is jeff sessions old seat. roy moore will vote inconsistency with what jeff sessions does. the overall picture here is mitch mcconnell, very bad day. it also reemphasizes that anti-washington, antiestablishment sentiment that's been going on since 2009.
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>> judge napalitano: can arrange some thing up about senator mcconnell questioning how bad is it that he and his pack spent $8 million and alabama, all gone, all wasted? >> katie: that's another lesson here. how much money did the establish an republican sector of the conservative side of the political spectrum going to continue throwing at these candidates, whether it's jeb bush, luther strange. it also proves that money is not everything. >> harris: we sought on november 8th of 2016. when i also noticed as it flies in the phase of how donald trump got elected. the people he puts his political mojo behind, they shouldn't need to spend that much cash because they ought to get it done. >> sandra: basin every thing you just said, is this a victory
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for the president? >> katie: i think so if you look at what people and alabama are saying who voted for ryan moore, they believe the president was somehow pushed into supporting luther strange. >> judge napalitano: i gave you that look because it roy moore was ahead by five points until the weekend when donald trump and mike pence came and then he won by ten points. i think he made a profound mistake. >> katie: thing is a huge mistake and it made no sense for the president to support luther strange especially when mitch mcconnell who is one of the most unpopular politicians in the country was backing him. >> judge napalitano: was mitch mcconnell backing luther strange because luther strange is more of a yes-man for mitch mcconnell and roy moore is more of a rand paul, a more independent thinker much the republicans? >> marie: i think he wanted some one who is interested in governing. cannons like roy moore , he would say he's a bomb thrower. certain candidates may win
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elections, they get headlines, they haven't shown they're really good at governing. >> katie: neither have establishment republicans. it's a wash. >> harris: it's a deal with the democrats by a president who wrote the deal and said i was going to get something done and at least get something done with regard to filling it. he does have the ability to do that. i'll hold off on judging whether he can govern. >> judge napalitano: sandra, come a look at the roy moore victory in the context of what else happened yesterday, which was the crushing defeat of the republicans probably final effort to attack obamacare? i know we're going to get to it later, but to me, the two are happening at the same time on the same day to the same president. >> marie: and bob corker announcing he's not running for reelection. in that leak the president said privately to a group of legislators that mitch mcconnell would leak and he wasn't doing a good job, which
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we all agree with, this was not a good day for mitch mcconnell mcconnell. this was a day health care, roy moore, bob corker, mitch mcconnell do not have a good day. >> katie: in terms of his agenda moving forward, roy moore is not going to support his agenda despite the president moving forward. >> harris: the president said and want to put people who are my kind of republicans and, so it is ironic he struck a deal with luther strange. that's another element we have to talk about. the facts on the ground are judge roy moore. >> sandra: what did you make of moore who you have known for quite some time, actually using those words, together we can make america great? >> judge napalitano: i thought it was a brilliant political for him to make. i think he's going to be more rand paul, ted cruz, mike lee, more on the small government republican side.
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i want tax cuts, but on spending cuts as well. for more there than he's going to be. >> sandra: fair enough, just a couple of hours from now, republican set to unveil their tax reform plan. highly anticipated. this ahead of the speech by president trump. yesterday he announced tremendous tax cuts for the middle-class peered whether the g.o.p. can get it done and if democrats will help. plus, the battle with the nfl over the national protest could help the g.o.p. next year's midterms. whether mr. trump sees this as a winning issue and whether candidates can capitalize.
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>> harris: this is breaking. republican leaders announced that two officially unveil their tax reform plan this afternoon. earlier today, house g.o.p. lawmakers met at a retreat in washington, d.c., where they talked about what they're calling a unified framework to our overhaul -- overhaul our tax system. president trouble be speaking on the plane later today when he goes to indianapolis. he's promising bold reform helping the middle class. >> it will be a very, very
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portable document. we will cut taxes tremendously for the middle class, not just a little bit, tremendously. that includes doubling the standard deduction that most families pay on their taxes. >> harris: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. this is huge. unified, how unified is it? speak out we will see when they count votes, but so far, so good. this is a big reload day for the white house to get the ball rolling on making the tax code simpler and fairer. here are some key points of a proposal. doubling the standard deduction, increasing the child tax credit, slashing the corporate rate from 35%-20%. and collapsing seven individual brackets to three. hauser pelikan later spoke with us this morning about getting to work on making that happen.
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>> we would welcome working with the democrats on tax reform. this is one of the best things we can do for our economy. we are most excited about bringing down those tax rates and empowering individuals that are living paycheck to paycheck. >> president trump sat down face-to-face with bipartisan members of the ways and means committee which handle tax matters and the house. the president emphasized grading more jobs and higher wages and working to bring back trillions of dollars from overseas. democrats are complaining it will benefit the rich and could add to our national debt. >> i was in the oval office in 2001 when the proposal for $1.3 trillion of tax cuts was offered. another trillion in 2003. it was all advertised on the basis of growing the economy. the problem is, it was very slow growth during those years.
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>> republicans say if they get those numbers down in terms of the tax rates, it will get the economy growing and will reduce the deficit. this is just the start of the conversation on what to expect to be the dominant issue here on capitol hill this fall. >> harris: some on the democrats aside say it's pie-in-the-sky, but we love pie, so we'll see what happens. thank you. wouldn't it be amazing and exciting if they could actually get something done? i argue the democrats would be exciting because there's nothing moving in washington. >> marie: nothing is a good word. that would be true breaking news if we got something done. i think democrats are looking forward to seeing the details of this. i think they're looking to see the million-dollar question which is how would you pay for this? the president is talking about having 6% growth, most people know that is not realistic. at the middle class gets tax cuts, if a lower tax rates for
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everyone, i think this is one, if it's done the right way, democrats make it on board with. we'll see in indiana, joe donnelly who is a key senator up for reelection whose way to work the president. >> harris: i want to throw summing up on the screen read to talk about. edis the federal federal tax system. people saying we would like 33%, complete overhaul, 35%. somewhere in the middle is they'll take where they can get. >> judge napalitano: one of the campaign attacks that donald trump used very effectively was who understands the tax code? >> harris: sandra is really good with numbers. >> sandra: i'm trying to understand this. >> judge napalitano: 3,000 pages long to include the interpreted material, i don't know if they'll be able to sell this. >> sandra: there something very important happening right now when you look at the stock
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market. it's doing nothing, it's waiting for the president to speak later, waiting for the details of this plan, but it is sitting at a record high. it has been rising in anticipation of an administration that has promised to be business friendly. when you look at some of the details like lowering the corporate tax rate to 20 from 35, limiting the tax rate for small businesses. it's at least injecting a positive atmosphere. >> judge napalitano: let me be the skunk of the garden party. under the constitution, tax legislation has to begin in the house, not the senate. the house has about 40-50 republicans in the conservative caucus. all of whom will insist that they will remain neutral. meaning if they have to lower taxes, they have to lower spending. what democrat in the senate will go along with that?
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>> marie: how can you do that? 's before they are interesting things coming from the white house on that push today. the first is they want to work with republicans in pushing all of this out. the next is the president is signing this from indianapolis, the same place where vice president mike pence's lined signed something for growing jobs. the president has invited joe donnelly and heidi heitkamp to stand with him. i'm not sure they've confirmed yet, but that is the goal and they also want to be multifaceted in developing their own wealth and keeping the money they have earned for their families. >> judge napalitano: are they going to stop spending to do that? >> katie: this is the plan, this is not legislation.
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>> harris: not every democrat, let's watch this with nancy pelosi. democrats have always been willing to engage in bipartisan tax reform. republican tax framework is not tax reform, it's a framework that gives away the store to the wealthiest a while middle class with the bill. >> judge napalitano: sounds like bernie sanders. this is the issue, a president cannot do this. >> marie: and not a lot of time to get it done. >> judge napalitano: i want everyone's taxes to go down, but i'm trying to articulate the political obstacles to this. you need 60 votes in the senate and he needs though conservatives in the house to be persuaded that they're not going to have to follow more money to run the government because they're collecting fewer tax dollars. >> harris: this it's almost every category. people won't be happy that the wealthy aren't getting anything at all. >> katie: if you look at the
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details of this, if you look at certain tax rates for states like california, new york, illinois, if you are and the higher tax brackets at the top, you're not going to be able to get a deduction annual pay more. democrats might want to ink again. >> harris: we move on. we could go on for days. it's so hot. the russia investigation is intensifying. one person is saying the president should fire robert mueller worried he will manufacture a case against the president. and are calling for a second special counsel to investigate 2016 controversies including former fbi director james comey's handling of the hillary clinton email investigation. is that a good idea? we'll talk about all of it, stay close. i love you, couch.
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>> sandra: fox news alert, special counsel robert mueller and his team could be meeting with former aides as early as this week. this comes as robert stone says the president should fire robert mueller. watch. >> do you think you should fire robert mueller? >> yes. >> why? >> because he interviewed for the job of fbi director the day after mr. comey resigned or was fired, pardon me. he was passed over for that job. that to me constitutes a conflict. >> sandra: stone also had this to say about mueller's intentions for targeting former chan pain tom mack campaign chair. >> i think the special counsel will try to manufacture and say, we want to prosecute you for this -- we won't prosecute you for this if you simply admit to collusion. in other words, bear false
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witness against the president. >> sandra: meanwhile, it is being said they will protect the investigation should the president tried to fire him. lindsey graham, cosponsor of the bill into doing just that saying this. i want the president to know that there is a process in place and there are checks and balances long before you got here and they will be here long after you are gone. i just want everybody in america to know that mueller is going to do his job without fear of reprisal. what can and can't the president do here, judge? >> judge napalitano: the president can fire bob mueller because the president is the chief law enforcement officer of the land and even though mueller may be investing the president, the president is ultimately his boss. i have to tell you, that would be extremely unwise politically in my view and would accelerate greatly. you saw the antagonistic tone
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from senator graham that you just read. long after you're gone. roger stone has a point. this is a long-standing procedure of federal prosecutors, when they want somebody at the top of a totem pole to indict people at the bottom, even for claims that have nothing to do with the person at the top, and then negotiate with them. i would suggest the language to manafort would be, you are facing 20 years in jail, that 20 will go down to nine months max if you can tell us this, this, or this about the man in the oval office. two laypeople, that's reprehensible. to those of us who have been and an out of law enforcement who've observed it from the bench or as prosecutors, that's the way the federal government works. >> harris: we've already seen the pressure put on him. look at the rate at manafort's home. these are not really moments by these investigators. if you look at what he's been
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through in the last few months, the message is definitely cutting out there. how about eating able to sleep at 2:00 in the morning? >> judge napalitano: the way they treat drug dealers, night why color 's before they clearly he wasn't cooperating which is why they did the raid on his home. it's important to point out that paul manafort was under fbi investigation for three years. paul manafort brought his legal baggage from whatever he's been doing, whatever. that is his responsibility. i don't think it's surprising that bob mueller is going to the white house to interview folks were there because he's going to be thorough in his investigation and he wants to know what's going on. >> harris: if and when they don't find any evidence, people can move on.
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if they play the short game now, it doesn't help anything. >> judge napalitano: another name was senator blumenthal yesterday, mike boone. bob mueller through a grand jury will indict general flynn and paul manafort for something, probably nothing that has to do with donald trump. >> katie: aiken whitley agree. one thing i do want to point out, i know people are concerned about, there has to be a reconciliation. special counsel will have their own independent investigation. must not forget the senate judiciary committee is doing an investigation in the senate intelligence committee is doing one as well. looking at the three or four, when they're all done and looking at what adds up and what doesn't is going to be important
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at the end of this. >> sandra: marie, what does happen? >> marie: idling the president will fire bob mueller. i totally agree with the judge that mike flynn and paul manafort are the two and most serious legal jeopardy. paul manafort is being investigated before the campaig campaign. he got fired after how many days, a couple months? they really brought attention to the campaign that was not wanted. we wouldn't even have bob mueller if james comey hadn't been fired. >> sandra: you always go back to that point. >> harris: bannon goes back to that point as well. he had democrats behind him on doing that. >> judge napalitano: and the manner of the firing as well. >> marie: and sing on national tv that i do like the way he was doing russia. it's a cautionary tale for the
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president if he's thinking about firing bob mueller, it will get worse. >> sandra: you have the last word. meanwhile republicans renewing our call for a special second counsel to investigate hillary clinton and the obama administration during last year's election. this follows allegations that former fbi director james comey drafted an exoneration statement for clinton leaked before interviewing her and more than a dozen key witnesses. republicans also complaining that he didn't report interviews despite justice department policy. and a letter to attorney general jeff sessions and ag rod rosenstein, they write >> judge napalitano: i have to
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tell you, this is another letter written, exuberant of the way law enforcement works. all prosecutors no at the outset of their investigation who they plan to charge and what they plan to charge them with and then they look and see if the evidence is there. if jim comey decided there wasn't enough to prosecute her a month before her late june, early july, it was fourth of july weekend, interview, that's because he knew it was going on and he wanted to see whether or not she contradicted what they had or whether she supported it. in terms of another special prosecutor, jeff sessions could go to a grand jury tomorrow and indict hillary clinton. he doesn't need a special prosecutor. i'm not adjusting he do it, but if he really wants to say that jim comey dropped the ball -- i don't know why he doesn't want to do it. >> marie: maybe there isn't enough evidence, how we actually thought that might be true?
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>> judge napalitano: i haven't seen their internal file, eileen know what's in the public. >> sandra: they have their entire circle and unity and they allow her top aide sarah mills to represent her as an attorney. she was given immunity. going back to the point i made before, this isn't just about hillary clinton, this is about her aides around her. all of the mishandling of highly classified information. it was president trump's responsibility to call for this. he said he would do it on the campaign trail and immediately after he won the election -- >> marie: what about these new private emails from jared? >> sandra: i wanted to get this in there because they're looking into that tarmac meeting with loretta lynch. >> harris: she already said she regretted it. >> marie: how is a g.o.p.
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going into a midterm with no legislation? if they want to spend their time relitigating and be obsessed with hillary clinton, they're showing them selves of being incapable of anything. they need to focus on legislating and get over hillary clinton. >> judge napalitano: the justice department does not like to prosecute or indict its predecessors because it doesn't want to be scrutinized. it's a common culture and government today in both political parties. >> harris: how many creatures in that swamp? teething they fight over the food? >> katie: all those things are rolling around in different departments. >> harris: it's a great point, why doesn't this attorney general step up and do what he can do in terms of prosecuting hillary clinton? >> marie: maybe there isn't,
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we don't know. >> sandra: president trump trying to warn about the dangers of terrorists sneaking into the u.s. now he's looking to make a historic cut in the number of refugees allowed in this country. will that keep america safer? we will debate. my dell small business advisor
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refugees -- it dropped to a historic low of six he 7,000 refugees. president obama increased the limit to 110,000 refugees and 2017 and now president trump is expected to drop the cap to 45,000 refugees for the 2018 fiscal year beginning next month. refugee groups blasting saying it breaks from america's tradition of helping immigrants in need. marie, i'm going to you first since he worked in the state department. very familiar with refugee issues. the uss historically limited refugees based on national interest, national security, the economy, why is what president trump is doing wrong or shortly be doing some thing else? >> marie: it there's been historically bipartisan support for the context of taking an refugees who are fleeing civil war, torture, death and a lot of these places and places like syria, these are people fleeing
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the terrorists, most of them. there has been bipartisan support for this issue. i think it's a very wholehearted arbitrary number that he's looking at. when it comes down to it, the number of refugees who committed terror acts in the u.s. since 9/11 how many have killed americans customer zero. this is about keeping us safe, it's about playing to your political base and using an arbitrary number two sound good when he don't have a lot of other political success. >> katie: is not summing this way to keep us safe questioning after 9/11, we dropped the cap to 27,000 refugees. >> harris: we kept it safer with the combination, you're talking about one of them. judge, eileen to you a little bit on this. marie, i think the conversation has shifted a little bit and it shifted in this way. yes, at first, the travel ban was leaning mostly in the direction of being able to find those among the refugees might be coming here to harm us. now i think it's a bigger issue
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of you know who's in the country at all? are you willing to do some extreme vetting to make sure you know not just who is here, but how many of them? not just how many, but what categories of people question our car they willing to come here and do what it takes to become citizens? irrespective of what we think they might do down the road. when they get here and we aren't able to vet them through other ways coming across the border or whatever, that's toppling the issue of sanctuary cities. you want to know who's in your country, this is one way to guarantee. >> marie: i worked on this at the state department. refugees go through the most intense screening of anyone who's come. let me finish. i was involved in this process, i know how it works. over two years for most of these refugees, we have biometric
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data, we look at their special media now, we have always set as a country that we believe you should vent people, but we accept people fleeing violence, war. refugees, we're not talking about century cities, illegal immigration, those are two different things. >> katie: we are still one of the most generous countries in the world when it comes to bringing in refugees. what about the legal perspective of how we can but these people, what is the president's authority to lower the cap? >> judge napalitano: for better or worse, the congress has given the president absolute authority to determine what the cap is. in fact, only the president, only the executive branch has the tools with which to engage the vetting you're talking abou about.
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my heart is with people who are fleeing oppression and are looking, like my grandparents did, for the united states of america as a beacon of hope to start their lives all over again. under the law the president has the power to make this decision and the courts should not second-guess him when he uses this power. >> sandra: by the way, it's what he promised when he was running for this position as the president of the united states and he was elected into office on this. marie, to hear this shock coming from some members of your party over this, why is this so surprising? >> marie: i'm not sure he ran on -- i'm trained to separate refugees out from illegal immigration, from people who overstay visas, even from daca which we talked about or things like the muslim ban, for lack of a better term. i'm short handing this. >> harris: even people in your party aren't doing that.
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>> marie: i think we can be -- the president himself is talked about being compassionate with immigration policy. when we talk about refugees, let's ream the heck out of them especially from places where we are concerned about a threat. i think he picked a random number because it sounds good politically. >> katie: let's talk with the economic impact of what it means to put refugees into american communities. a couple years ago, a democrat mayor of springfield, massachusetts, said stop ringing simile refugees because our every structure as a city can no longer handle it. maybe this isn't about just national security. >> sandra: that's a great point, but you don't have the president pushing and staying on that. he sticks to the make america safer point and maybe he should lean on that. >> marie: you have a lot of mayors and governors to make the exact opposite point. maybe that's why he does it. >> judge napalitano: we talked about compassion and its new attitude about daca.
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♪ >> harris: president trippe standing firm in his battle with the nfl over players taking a knee during the national anthem. here's what he said yesterday at a white house news conference. >> i was ashamed of what was taking place. it's called respect for our country. many people have died, many, many people, many people are still horribly injured. they were fighting for our country, or flag, the national anthem. for people to disrespect that by kneeling during the playing of our national anthem is disgraceful. >> harris: now some republicans are already looking to cash in on the controversy ahead of the 2018 midterm election. g.o.p. candidates have begun buying their campaigns to this cause in an attempt to appeal to disgruntled voters in the rnc sent out two separate fund-raising emails yesterday, one read this. president trump is under fire from the media for saying he's honor to stand for the
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national anthem, do you stand with the president? president trump for our flight, or country, and our heroes, take the next step in sitting with president trump by making acculturation today. >> judge napalitano: that's a very effective campaign pitch for funds from the conservative republican base. i profoundly disagree with the president telling the nfl how to manage the nfl. he campaigned on the idea that the federal government should not be telling businesses how to run their businesses. the supreme court has written that the flag stands for the right to destroy and ignore, so it stands for the right to genuflect in front of it >> sandra: sarah sanders is bum barton with questions on this daily and she says the presidents only point is to defend the military. she stands by the daily. i spoke to a mother of a fallen seal yesterday who said her son was so disgusted -- he feels he
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has to defend the military. >> judge napalitano: i don't blame the president for defending the military, but there are legitimate political views being expressed by those who kneel and these are areas that the president shouldn't be taking these people on and because they have the right to do it. the jets and giants have mores to do this, it says employees can express an opinion in the employer's workplace as long as it doesn't materially interfere with their job. >> katie: after vietnam and the war, you are allowed, just because you can do it does mean is the right thing to do. i'm glad the president is standing up for the american flag and the national anthem in this very divided time. it makes me sad that this has become a political issue. >> marie: republicans are raising money off of it. >> katie: let me finish. i don't blame them for seeing a
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political opportunity, but i think it's unfortunate that that's where we have come in a sense of putting it in political campaigns. >> judge napalitano: how about i disagree with what you say, but you have the right to say it. >> katie: i understand that. >> harris: i wondered this, i asked to show a picture earlier this week of dr. martin luther king doing something similar, on his knees with all these protesters behind him. he reported that the time was praying, maybe some of these people are too, i don't know. is it too much to anticipate where asked that the nfl takes a look at themselves right now with all the issues that we are dealing with like to messing violence or accusations legally, is it too much to say, just don't continue? >> judge napalitano: the president of the united states,
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donald trump has the same freedoms as the rest of us. he just has a bigger megaphone. he can't use the power of the government to prevent this kneeling, but he can use the power of the bully pulpit to address and isolate. >> katie: the nfl could also use their own policies which are written down to have players stand for the national anthem. there is a very detailed section in their policy that talks about, you stand there with your helmet by your side and you are in silence. they could save themselves a lot of trouble with their fans, which by the way, dish network is reporting that a lot of people, directv, excuse me, the reporting a lot of people are canceling their own default package.
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>> judge napalitano: that's the appropriate response because of the free market. if jerry jones orders the cowboys to kneel during the national anthem and one of them decides to stand -- >> sandra: someone can't cancel there's obstructions -- >> marie: i'm saying the nfl shouldn't make a rule. the president is trying to make this about the military and the people protesting it are focusing on a totally different issue. this has become partisan and the fact is part of a fund-raising pitch -- >> harris: we have to go, we'll be right back.
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>> thank you to judge andrew napolitano, thank you for joining us. "happening now" starts right no now. >> jon: we start with a fox news alert, republicans prepared to outline their plan to overhaul america's tax system. how would you like that job? one day after the senate stalls on health care yet again, hello and welcome to the second hour of "happening now." >> heather: they are going to try something else to see if they can get this accomplished, president trump hitting the road for his big announcement. he's about to take off for indianapolis, the president will lay out his framework for tax reform. g.o.p. lawmakers left the capital for a closed retreat on tax reform. that's ahead of their public rollout later today. counselor

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