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>> it's delicious. >> how many can he eat? >> 10, sometimes more. >> more details about this family on the after the show show on "fox & friends".com. >> bill: good morning, everybody. president trump wasting no time putting on a full-court press over tax reform. he says this plan can remake the american economy and lead to a, quote, middle class miracle. so here we go. next debate right front and center. i'm bill hemmer, good morning and welcome to "america's newsroom." >> shannon: another busy day. i'm shannon bream. republicans releasing their framework for their tax overhaul calling for cuts in tax rates as well as trying to simplify the very complicated tax code to get it to an easy formula to get america's economy moving again. >> president trumpwe are going to cut taxefor th middle class, ke the tax code
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simpler and more fair for everyday americans, and we are going to bring back the jobs and wealth that have left our country. and most people thought left our country for good. we want tax reform that is pro growth, pro jobs, pro worker, pro family, and yes tax reform that is pro american. it is time to take care of our people, to rebuild our nation, and to fight for our great american workers. [applause] >> shannon: chief white house correspondent john roberts joins us live from the north lawn. >> some breaking news out of the white house this morning. the president has waived the jones act for puerto rico. that stipulates that only u.s. flag constructed and owned vessels can transit between u.s. ports. the president waived that
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temporarily for puerto rico for foreign vessels to bring much-needed supplies to puerto rico to get the island nation on its feet as fast as possible. to tax reform. if the president wants a legislative legacy he has to get this through. let's put it up on the screen. three tax brackets of 12, 25 and 35 percent. he would double the standard deduction $12,000 for individuals, $24,000 for couples. lower the corporate rate to 20%, yesterday on the way to indianapolis the president said to me that 20% level for the corporate tax is a red line for him. listen here. >> president trump: very much a red line. in fact, i wanted to start at 15 so that we got 20. it just -- the numbers -- 15 was so low we didn't take in the revenue but i wanted 15 so
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we got 20. 20 is my number. i'm not going to negotiate that number. >> some republicans are worried about the -- it would mean a tax increase for high tax states. chuck schumer has the same concerns and says this tax reform plan is a giveaway to the rich because it lowers the top tax bracket, repeals the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax. here is what schumer said. >> when donald trump was talking about this plan he talked about focusing on the middle class and not helping the wealthy. the plan is a major disappointment because it so deviates from everything the president said. he is walking -- he is talking the talk but this plan shows he is not walking the walk. >> this response from the president this morning to senator schumer, democrats don't want massive tax cuts. how does that win elections? great reviews for tax cut and
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reform bill. however, the president's chief economic advisor gary cohn did not dispute the notion that some upper middle income earners may see their taxes go up because of the lack of deductibility of state and local taxes. this one still to be determined. we just got the broad brush strokes of it. details will be filled in by congress over the coming weeks. >> shannon: in the meantime the president still talking about this effort to repeal and replace obamacare, though it is seemingly going nowhere for now. >> we told you yesterday that graham-cassidy was all dead. maybe it's only mostly dead after all. graham and cassidy, the two senators will be coming to the white house this morning at 11:30. the president insisted that graham-cassidy can be resurrected but it might not be until january or february of next year. yesterday on the way to the helicopter he made an eyebrow raising claim that he has enough votes to pass healthcare but that one of those votes is in the hospital. listen here. >> president trump: we have the votes to get it done.
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you can't do it when somebody is in the hospital. when you have 52 votes and you need 51, it's very hard to get because you always have somebody -- some cases they want to grandstand, a lot of bad things happen. but we have the votes. >> in terms of the senator in the hospital he is talking about senator cochran of mississippi who was in the hospital and now home recuperating from a minor procedure. even so, the president didn't have the votes. collins, mccain and paul all said they were against it. so i'm not sure how he is counting the votes. the white house tells me they are speaking with senator paul and they think through some regulatory actions they may be able to bring him on board. we'll see. the president will sign an executive order to let people cross lines for health insurance. >> shannon: john roberts live from the white house. >> bill: talked to the white
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house about it next hour as well. plenty to talk about now with steven hayes. good morning to you, you sent out this tweet quoting your words. after eight years media suddenly very concerned about debt and deficits with gop tax reform proposal #trust deficit. what do you hear and what are you picking up? >> watching the media covering since the unveiling of this tax fopackage has been extra ordinary. virtually no concern with deficits and spending from the federal government year after year after year and no questions raised about debt and deficits at a time when republicans wanted to raise them. now republicans talk about cutting taxes and every question to every republican is about the debt and deficit. there are legitimate questions about debt and deficit and the impact of the reform plans on
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our national debt but those questions should have been asked throughout the obama years, too. >> bill: yeah. some people asked those questions. >> some people did. >> bill: present company excluded. back to tax reform now. this is what the president described as bipartisanship when it comes to taxes or how it should be when he said this in indianapolis. >> president trump: tax reform has not historically been a partisan issue and it does not have to be a partisan issue today. i really believe we're going to have numerous democrats come over and sign because it's the right thing to do. >> bill: you hear that on its face. do you believe that?
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>> i'm skeptical about the president's final claim. i don't think we'll have numerous democrats join republicans in this reform effort but he is right when he says that it can be and has been traditionally and bipartisan undertaking. if you look back at the reagan tax cuts, you look at the arguments that barack obama was making about lowering the corporate tax rate. barack obama was in favor of maybe not exactly the kind of corporate tax deductions that donald trump is now proposing but he acknowledged that the u.s. corporate tax rate was too high. so did many democrats. i think there are areas where republicans and democrats can agree. the question, i think, has to do with whether democrats will sign onto the entire package, number one or number two, they think it's more politically advantageous to oppose donald trump all the time. >> bill: it's always been a partisan issue, don't you? that's what the history shows, steve. >> certainly democrats have by and large favored higher taxes, republicans have by and large favored low taxes. bob novak had a comment, republican party isn't good for anything unless it's for lower taxes.
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so there have been profound differences but there have been times when republicans and democrats have joined together to pass specific reforms. 1981, 1986, you look at early tax cuts in the bush years, there was some democratic support for that. the question i think will be do democrats think they're better off politically heading into the 2018 mid-terms opposing everything donald trump says. you would think some red state democratic senators up for reelection might be enticed by this kind of package, which is a middle class tax cut and does offer some of the broader forms that republicans were talking about. >> bill: $20 trillion. 44th and 6th avenue at the clock in new york city. steven hayes in washington, d.c. thank you. >> shannon: cultural icon hugh hefner died last night. build a media empire around his playboy lifestyle.
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hugh hefner passed away today at 91. #rest in peace. he is staying true to form after death. he will be buried next to marilyn monroe who graced the cover of playboy's first issue. we have more from the l.a. newsroom. hi, william. heffner got to go to work in his pajamas and turning young boys into thieves stealing magazines from their dad or uncle. he lived a fantasy life in the magazine he created on a kitchen table in chicago with $5,000. circulation grew to over a million. his first marriage ended in divorce after two kids but he had four to seven girlfriends, married twice again. while turning men's magazines from field and stream into something much bigger. >> when you're young and a dreamer, you dream impossible dreams and a lot of pressures
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to conform and change, etc. a best life is one where one pursues one's own personal dreams. the fact that it would be so successful and that it would not only succeed but also would become such a phenomenon in the 60s literally change the world, who could possibly imagine that? >> besides pictures of beautiful naked women he tapped into cultural change. critics say it's a high class dirty book but playboy celebrated american writers revealing interviews from castro to jimmy carter. he broke down racial and social barriers while promoting civil rights and free speech. >> not only humanitarian but forefront with women's rights. a lot of people say the opposite. >> he lived heaven on earth. he's in heaven for real now.
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>> heffner died peacefully last night at age 91 of natural causes. >> bill: 12 minutes past the hour. breaking news on this. taking a big step ahead this morning to help devastated puerto rico. what the government is doing to help in this long road to recovery. that's coming up in a moment. >> shannon: the new actions the u.s. is taking to rein in north korea's aggression after we leave details about a student at death's door when he came home and what the u.s. is doing next. >> bill: president trump not letting up in his criticism of the nfl after many play kneeled no protest during the themlast sua he says team owners are afraid to act. newt gingrich picks up that argument live next. >> president trump: we have to respect our national anthem. we have to respect our country. and they're not respecting our country. most importantly, the fans agree with me. largely the fans agree. the opioid my doctor prescribed for my chronic back pain
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my next guest says this debate has serious implications for america's future. newt gingrich wrote about it and teaching an online course called defending america and joins me live. mr. speaker, welcome back to "america's newsroom." i want to pull one line from your piece, okay? here is what you say under the title respect our shared history or choose decay. this is your quote now. my fear is that the nfl will succumb to pressure and sidestep the problem by no longer performing the national anthem before games. this would be the worst path to take. what's the chance of that happening? i have not heard an owner or anyone in the league suggest that would be the case. >> well, in the 1970s there were places that did back down because the tension and hostility of the vietnam war became so great. and i think there is a gradual erosion underway.
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you see this on the college campuses, you see it in the news rooms. you certainly see it in hollywood. and the erosion is away from thinking that america is a unique place, a place worth admiring, a place worth respecting, that our founding fathers really matter. you know, when you have one liberal activist saying he doesn't like his tax money maintaining the jefferson memorial, jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence, the whole underlying attitude of dismantling american symbols and american icons. i do worry about it. you may disagree with me. as a historian i think we've done a great deal for 200 years to try to take people from everywhere in the world and bring them together as americans. and that the national anthem and the flag are a part of that. i think showing respect together. we can argue about many things. we can have many different philosophies but agreeing together we're americans has been an enormous source of strength for us.
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>> bill: i think the league wants this to to go away, frankly and to get rid of the anthem would fuel the flames even more. what i hear from the league is a week or two ago they were down to three players out of almost 2,000 who were kneeling or sitting during the anthem and they believed it was gymed up by the president last week and why you saw 200 plus last weekend. is he responsible as commander-in-chief to a degree for fanning the flames of this debate and taking it to a level that it was not at before? >> i think, look, he is the largest single voice in the country. remember, this is a league which blocked the dallas cowboys from wearing something to honor five policemen killed in the line of duty and willing to except in in certain cases and remarkably passive in this case. maybe they were down to three a couple of weeks ago. that wasn't how it seemed.
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maybe that's just the news coverage. i think compared to frankly moving on and talking about the tax cuts or talking about a variety of other things, this is not an issue which will last a long time unless it gets fanned up further. certainly last sunday the league was not exactly backing down in any way. >> bill: maybe we strike a middle ground here. let me know if this is acceptable to you as you think about this. i'm trying to figure out how the league get out of this and put it behind itself so it doesn't linger week after week after week? if you stand arms locked on the field during the anthem do you have a problem with that? >> no. look, i think as long as you stand respectfully. and the league, by the way,
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under its contracts, the league has absolute authority to tell these folks. i don't mind if a team doesn't want to come on the field until ter the anthem. historically that's something that used to happen. what ieay reject as a citiis that i'm supposed to watch a sporting event and the entrance price is to have somebody disrespect the united states of america and disrespect our national anthem and our flag. i think it's charging me a price that's inappropriate. it's a sporting event for pete sake. there should be someplace in america where we can relax and be americans without having to wear our politics on our sleeves. >> bill: we can all agree on that. let's hope for calmer times this weekend so we can enjoy the action on the field. >> i hope so. starting, by the way tonight. >> bill: as will i. thank you for being here today. nice to see you. >> shannon: the top story of the day obamacare and the repeal and tax reform, all those things the top of the president's agenda. he said he believes senator rand paul will end up voting yes eventually on healthcare. we'll ask the senator directly what he thinks. a critical voting block in the house supporting the
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president's tax plan. congressman jim jordan is a member of the freedom caucus. he joins us next hour. the trump administration trying to stop north korea's aggression. brand-new fox polls and we'll get reaction from house foreign affairs committee member.
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>> shannon: tensions rise between the u.s. and north korea the u.s. will be deploying strategic military assets across the korean peninsula to deter the rogue regime. we get new fox news polling. some think the president is being too tough. 46% say the president's handling of the issue has been about right. let's bring in illinois congressman adam kinzinger and pilot for the air national
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guard. what do you make of these new deployments both south korea and the pentagon confirming will be deployed to the peninsula. a show of force, warning. are the assets in place to do something if necessary? >> i think it's all the above. the assets are in place to do something because whenever -- if, in fact, god forbid. military needs to be used we need it on our terms and need as many assets in place to have as many siem multaneous opening strikes at fires. it shows force to the north koreans and chinese. the chinese have an interest. the more military we deploy saying we're serious about this is empowering the diplomatic and economic instruments of power to hopefully compel the regime to denuclearize.
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we cannot -- >> shannon: more interesting polls how the president is dealing with north korea. on the issue of whether the tough talk the president used fire and fury and all these kinds of things, total destruction. 70% say they don't think it's helpful. 23% think it is helpful. in terms of how to deal with it moving forward, should we focus on diplomacy and sanctions, 61% say that's the key. 23% threatening military action is the key. what do you think of the strategy for dealing with this regime thus far? >> i think they've done a good job. the poll that says 61% say diplomacy and 23% say military. i say it's 100% and that those work together. you can't do diplomacy successfully against an adversary without having a successful potential of a military option. now, nobody wants that. but it's what compkim jong-un e table. hes if we use military force he will die. and so w that's his -- that's
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what will hopefully make him change his behavior. the american people don't ever want to go to war. that's completely understandable but interesting that they've said they're willing to give this president leverage to do what he needs to do. frankly, the tough talk some people are uncomfortable with it. we've had 25 years with this regime of diplomatic talk. i think it's time to try something different, being tough, otherwise god forbid we'll be forced to go to the military option. >> shannon: china a key player in this whole thing. secretary tillerson headed there and the president later this year. how do you think the conversations must go? the key is making china believe that stopping north korea is in its best interest. >> i would love the to be a fly on the wall in those conversations. china sees north korea as a strategic buffer to american influence. they look at american presence in japan after world war ii and south korea and see that threatening. okay, fine, understand that. but they to this point have
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said having that crazy regime on their border is more in their interest than a potential unified korean peninsula. the united states needs to make it clear we aren't focused on unification but a denuclearization. we know 80% of commerce into north korea goes through your border and you can shut it down if you want to. that pressure and leverage and bringing it to the public and being on tv talking about what the chinese are doing to enable north korea puts more pressure on them. >> shannon: great to see you, thank you, sir. >> bill: 9:30 in new york president trump saying the fight to repeal obamacare is not over. >> president trump: healthcare, we have it, we have the votes. we have to wait until january, february, or march which we'll do. but in the meantime i'll negotiate with democrats to see if we can make it a bipartisan
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>> shannon: not giving up. president trump says he thinks healthcare reform still has a chance and the republicans can
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get it done in the next few months. meeting today with republican senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy co-sponsors of the latest effort that failed to try to repeal and replace obamacare partially. the president telling reporters he believes republicans have the votes and blame the latest setbacks on time constraints. >> president trump: because the reconciliation window is about to close, we have to wait a few months in any event long before the november election we'll have a vote and we're going to be able to get that through and i think we'll actually get it through easily and the time makes it easier. >> shannon: former advisor to president bill clinton and fox news contributor doug schoen and david avella, the chairman of gopac. i want to play what the president said pete hegseth and many other things that factored into the debate. >> president trump: what i'm oing to do, we do have the votes for healthcare but the filibuster, if you look
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what's going on with respect to timing, we have only until friday for reconciliation. we're going into next year. in the meantime i'll start negotiating with democrats and we'll see what happens. >> shannon: a couple of things there. the filibuster that would do away with the 60-vote threshold but also trying to work with democrats. if you can't -- if you have 52 republicans and can't get for50 votes there which democrats do you see crossing over on a plan that would get enough votes to make it past that hurdle? >> there are 10 democrats up, shannon, who are in states that donald trump won in last year's presidential race coming to mind are joe manchin, joe donnelly in indiana where the president was yesterday, heidi heitkamp. i think they're prime targets. there is already a process in the senate with lamarr alexander and patty murray to try to work out a bipartisan set of principles and perhaps even legislation. so i think that's all to the good. i think the president is right,
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if he does a bipartisan plan and if he is willing to work with the democrats, we could get legislation that will pass comfortably. >> shannon: we know, david, a lot of things are passing on the house side and they aren't going anywhere in the senate. there has been a little frustration from the house side it sounds like. here is what paul ryan told sean hannity. >> we're on schedule in the house. we passed the healthcare bill back in may and the repeal and replace of dodd-frank. we did case law, military, veterans, we passed 337 bills in the house as of this week. so we haven't gotten them over the finish line in the senate. is tt frustrating for the house? you bet it's frustrating for the hoe. >> shannon: david. >> throughout history the one uniting fact tore in both chambers is their us from ration are the other chamber. senators always think the house is blocking their stuff and the house always thinks the senate is blocking their legislation. there is agreement particularly
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among republican and democratic policy experts when it comes to healthcare that we could pass now. we could pass giving more -- an increase to health savings account, we could look at giving states more flexibility through waivers to come up with innovative ideas, we can look at also allowing small groups of people to come together to buy health insurance. so there could be -- let me add this. the fact that the president stays optimistic and continues to encourage and actually says he will work with democrats, there was a time the media would see that as visionary and a leader. but it shows how much disdain the media has for president trump because in the last 24 hours all you've heard is ridicule from the media because the president is still saying i'm fighting for healthcare reform and i'm willing to work with the democrats if they bring good ideas to the table. >> shannon: i want to ask you both the same question and i'll start with you, doug. there have been dire
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predictions what happens with obamacare. spikes in premiums. deductibles, lack of options and democrats say it needs to be fixed. if nothing gets passed on the gop front and the aca collapses, who pays for that in 2018, the democrats who set the framework in motion? a lot went into motion late after president obama's second reelection and after he is gone from office, or is it the republicans because they didn't avert the disaster? doug? >> again i'm speaking not as an advocate but as an analyst. and my experience in politics is the parties in power that fail to pass in this case healthcare, which are the republicans, would pay the price. now, i want to be bipartisan about this. there is plenty of blame to go around and the democrats certainly passed an imperfect plan that did lead to coverage being denied and costs going
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way up for premiums. so i'm not sitting here saying it's all the republicans but they will pay the price in the mid-term elections, that's what i think history shows. >> shannon: perception is reality for a lot of folks. >> doug is spot on. both parties will be deemed less favorable by voters. who it potentially hurts more in next year's election are republicans. not because president trump has fired up the democratic base but because republican voters are frustrated that congress and the white house haven't done something on healthcare despite the fact that we promised to do it in the last election. we have to deliver. >> shannon: all right. it's been seven years of those promises. i think congress sits at about a 15% approval rating right no just below dentists and lawyers and since i was one i can say that. >> and tv pundits. >> bill: i like my desk job. a week after hurricane maria slammed puerto rico frustration
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growing. relief supplies arriving but getting them to those who need it won't be easy. this drone video makes it clear how sweeping the destruction is on the island. try getting gasoline. lines to buy fuel for generators and the cars stretch for miles if the station has any fuel. here is an image from space before and after. the after photo is from sunday virtually all of puerto rico was in the dark. meanwhile help is on the way, the nba's only puerto rican player delivering food and water. nice to see them there. the plane was provided by the dallas mavericks owner mark cuban. you talk about changing the law on the jones act. that all helps. back in texas we haven't forgotten about you. a rookie quarterback out of clemson off to a great start in anfl career give the first paycheck he received from the
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nfl to three cafeteria workers at the stadium who lost their homes as a result of harvey. really good american. >> shannon: he had been someone who benefited from work done who has gone out and -- from florida state. it's all acc love. he had been someone who would go out and donate homes to single mothers because of what he had grown up with and how tough his mom was and to see that paying forward to now these three workers there is beautiful. as we continue to monitor that situation in puerto rico, we'll have a lot more on healthcare fight as well with kentucky senator rand paul. he was a hard no on the last version of obamacare repeal. he voted yes on other ones. would he back the president working with democrats on a different plan? we'll ask him. he is coming up at the top of the hour. >> bill: that republican tax plan is public. can they deliver the relief they're promising? we'll talk to one of the architect in a moment. >> president trump: our country
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deserve. >> bill: president trump already framing this as a middle class miracle. there are critics certainly. my next guest knows all about overhauling the tax code. art laffer former economic advisor to president ronald reagan. i have a lot of stuff to go through here. based on what you know from the plan, how do you score it or rate it or grade it a through f? >> it's amazing they've been able to get this plan up and running and announced. i think they can get it passed. it's better than we did under reagan in the first year or two. the bill that we had in 81 was a great bill. don't get me wrong. but this bill i think is more powerful, will have a bigger impact on the economy, and i couldn't be more excited than i am about this bill. i really can't. >> bill: let me show viewers some of the key points on screen. reduce the number of tax brackets from seven to three. cut the corporate rate to 20%.
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double the standard deduction 12,000 individual, 24,000 family. eliminate the estate tax increase and child tax credit. you like all that. what is from your standpoint, what is important to understand about those bullet points, art? >> the first two and the fourth are the real kickers to this economy. reducing brackets from 7 to 3 simplified the codes a lot. the big engine for growth is dropping the corporate tax rate to 20. 20 will do a great job. and then the inheritance tax, the most disgusting immoral tax on earth. it won't have a big kicker but it is one you have to get rid of if you want to be a moral person on this planet. >> bill: what do you think is gotiable inall this? >> i don't know what's negotiable in all of this. i think we're pretty much there. they've got a lot of openings there. do you get rid of the state and local tax deductions? i think they should do that.
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if they get rid of the state and local tax deductions and also get rid of the alternative minimum tax those two are pretty much a wash. the alternative minimum tax for many people. >> bill: republicans hate the amt. >> we all do. it was triggered by the state and local tax deduction. that's the non-preferred deduction and that's what always put people in states like california, new york and connecticut into the amt. once you get rid of that, you won't have the amt but you also won't get the deductions. >> bill: let me ask you a question about the local and state taxes whether you can deduct them or not. currently in the u.s. house of representatives here is the makeup of republicans from
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three of the most heavily taxed states. 14 in california, 9 in new york and 5 in new jersey. why would they vote for that, art? >> they may not if that's the only thing they're considering. if they're considering prosperity in the country i think they'll vote for this bill in spite of that from these people specifically. but if i were in those states getting rid of the amt will save these people in those states a lot of money as well. so it's a deduction as well as getting rid of the amt that you have to put together and make it as one item. that may be very beneficial to new yorkers, californians and people from new jersey. look at them both together. >> bill: how many democrats voted for the reagan tax cuts in 1980. >> shannon: 86 in the senate the vote was 97-3. except for paul simon. >> bill: why was that? why was it so overwhelmingly in favor, then? >> it's the right thing to do. they learned their lesson in the 84 race. we won the election in 84. winning 49 out of 50 states and all the democrats decided after that that they would work with reagan and they did work with reagan. they were brilliant, they were wonderful. gephart, kasten combined to be the 86 tax act. we dropped the highest rate
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from 50% to 28%. the corporate rate from 46 to 34%. we went from 14 tax brackets to two tax brackets. it was just nirvana, to be honest. the democrats were all with us. >> bill: how many in 2017 and 18? >> i'm hoping with a lot. i'm dealing with a group of 45 to 50 democrats in the house. each of them knows this bill is positive for the country and a good bill. they can disagree with this, that or the other but the bill as a whole is a real plus. i just think it's real positive for the kun traoe. i just hope we get bipartisanship now rather than waiting until after the election. >> bill: i know you want to give a shout-out to puerto rico. >> those stories you told of the heroes in puerto rico is uplifting. i want to say that made me feel really good and makes me very proud to be an american, to be honest with you. >> bill: thank you, art.
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>> shannon: all right, conservative republicans. will they get on board with the tax plan? jim jordan is a member of the freedom caucus. is that powerful voting block is in? a passenger being dragged off a plane. what prompted this whole thing and how the airline is responding.
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>> bill: fox news alert now, good economic news breaking earlier today. gdp growth topping 3% for the first time in more than two years. gross domestic product hit 3.1% in the second quarter predicted for 3.0. a tick above that. a lot of that is because of consumer spending which rose well over 3% in that period. markets are lower on the news, off 15 points at the open. there is a warning about a dip in gdp next quarter after harvey and irma and maria and
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all that hurricane stuff that a lot of folks are dealing with today. >> shannon: i think you would be in the economy or financial field if you were not doing news. you really love it. the numbers, the crunching, the markets. >> bill: i know nothing about money. >> shannon: you fake it very well. >> bill: you want to know what to do in life ask hemmer and do the opposite. >> shannon: not true. i don't believe it at all. i'm a frustrated travel agent. speaking of travel, southwest airlines apologizing to a passenger being dragged off a flight by police, check it out. >> i will walk, don't touch me. don't touch me. >> shannon: this happened in baltimore in route to los angeles. the woman told the crew she had a life threatening pet allergy and demanded two dogs be removed. she couldn't provide any medical certification stating that. here is what a fellow passenger
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says. >> she was willing to fly, take her chances, and then the airline said well, not knowing that you will have an allergic outbreak in the air and we have to divert to another airport, we can't take that chance. >> shannon: southwest saying this in a statement. flight crew made repeated attempts to explain the situation to the customer and she refused to deplane and law enforcement become involved. >> bill: enjoy the friendly skies. fox news alert. new details emerging about the accused nsa leaker. her name is reality winner. what documents reveal about how she managed to sneak the sensitive transcripts out of one of the more secure facilities in the country and where she hid them. whoa. president trump promising action on healthcare says it's not over. look for an executive order on daca and another attempt at undoing obamacare will happen.
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>> shannon: this is a fox news alert on taking another stab at healthcare reform. president trump insisting that the effort to repeal and replace obamacare is still alive and well saying he actually sees a deal within months. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm shannon bream. good morning. >> bill: good morning. i'm bill hemmer. good morning at home, work, mobile device wherever you're watching us today. the president wing he will have the votes to get it passed next time saying he thinks that senator rand paul will come around. >> president trump: i think rand will be there for us. he was there for me two times before for a plan that isn't as good. i like rand paul a lot and i think he will be there for us. he is a good guy and he wants what is good also for the party. so i think rand will be there. >>
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>> bill: speaking of which senator rand paul standing by in a moment. let's go to mike emanuel. what does happen next? >> i was told last night that senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy, the guys behind the graham-cassidy plan that they tried to get across the finish line this week, they would go to the white house to meet with president trump to talk about strategy. john roberts is saying that meeting should take place in 90 minutes or so. the last time we heard if both of those senators they sounded committed to getting this done. >> we'll fulfill our promise to repeal and replace to the american people. we're going to improve healthcare for you because at the end of the day, that's the only promise that matters. >> to be clear, through events that are not under our control, we don't have the votes. >> they could not get the 50 republicans saying yes on healthcare reform this week. they're hopeful after tax reform they can get there.
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what makes some of those no votes turn to yes, bill. >> bill: chuck schumer had a lot to say about this yesterday. are they claiming victory at this point? >> there seems to be a sense of relief on the democrat side, bill. they were worried if republicans stayed unified there was nothing they could do to stop this effort. they're saying they expect republicans to continue this fight. >> we're not out of the woods by any means. until trump care is finally set aside we will not stop fighting back because this last one was the worst version yet. >> we hope we can move forward and improve healthcare, not engage in another battle to take it away from people because they will fail once again if they try. >> democrats have been pushing for a return to the bipartisan talks with tennessee senator alexander and patty murraya senator from washington state. to try to come up with a
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bipartisan fix of obamacare. we will see if those talks resume, bill. >> bill: more to come. thanks. mike emanuel leading our coverage there on capitol hill. >> shannon: let's talk to one of the key players, senator rand paul. good morning. in the last measure cassidy graham you were a no. how do you get to yes on whatever is coming next? >> graham-cassidy was not repeal. it was fake repeal put forward but not repeal. i've been putting forward an alternative that i think is going to be acted on in the next couple of weeks. graham-cassidy probably will never be acted on. i can tell you the white house is excited about my alternative and my alternative is to let individuals by across state lines, through health associations, and we believe the president can do this and will do it through a regulatory change or reinterpretation of the law from the 1970s. this is good news. we think millions of people are now going to be allowed to get insurance across state lines. inexpensive insurance,
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insurance that covers what they want it to cover. it will be a huge step forward for the health insurance problems we have in this country. >> shannon: you say it's a first step. there are things to be addressed, taxes, mandates, those kinds of things. where do you go next even if you give consumers the power to buy across state lines, what about the lingering issues? >> this is a big first step. millions of people buying across state lines and having access to inexpensive insurance. the big part of the problem in healthcare has been in the individual market. if you're a plumber or a carpenter, an accountant, pest control, some kind of small business, these are the people who worry about their spouse getting sick and losing their insurance or their rates going up. i'll let every one of them, 11 million people, buy across state lines and join associations. the president and i have been working on this. this is a traoel free market alternative graham-cassidy. that was just a big government reshuffling of obamacare. but it kept the obamacare taxes and spending in place.
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my plan costs zero dollars and is basically legalizing something. it is giving people the freedom of choice. it could go a long way towards fixing the problems we have and maybe we don't have to go back to a big government solution like graham-cassidy. >> shannon: if he leaves other things in place, the taxes, mandates, requirements for employers, would you support further legislation that would scale back those kinds of things and if this doesn't get done miraculously by saturday th 51 votes, are you going to get any democrats to weigh in with you on that? >> there has probably been no more vocal opponent in washington than myself against obamacare. i've called and voted repeatedly for real repeal. i would say yes, i'm ready to vote now. there are parts of graham-cassidy that were repeal. repeal the individual mandate and employer mandate. let's vote on it now. expansion of health savings accounts, let's vote on that now. giving governors waivers, let's vote on that now. the main thing i opposed in
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graham-cassidy they kept the obamacare spending and resufld it from democratic states to republican states. that wasn't an answer and petty partisanship and big government and fake repeal. but yes, there are parts that we could vote on and i met with people, the white house and the senate leadership and said i'm ready to vote today if they'll put forward something that is simply a repeal bill. >> shannon: you know that is never going to happen in the current framework. as much as you are a critic of the affordable care act of obamacare, whatever folks want to call it, for you is it about if you can't get a vote for a full repeal you aren't going to vote for anything short of that, or is there some wiggle room? >> that's not really true. i've already voted for several partial repeals and i will vote for partial repeal. i promised full repeal and that's what i'm for and what the voters were promised. and you want to know why they're unhappy in alabama? not because we just didn't do something but we didn't do what we promised was real, full repeal. will i vote for partial repeal?
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yeah, i already have. i want real repeal. i'm not voting to replace obamacare with a republican version that keeps all the obamacare taxes and spending in that's fake repeal and i won't vote f that. >> shannon: thpresident says we'll have the votes for healthcare but not for the reconciliation of friday after which we need 60. get rid of filibuster rule. they say they won't do it. it's the only tool the republicans would have in that space. democrats as a minority have to resist the tire knee of the majority. where are you on that? >> i think filibuster serves liberty. it doesn't allow legislation to move forward too quickly. really the constitution is about preserving liberty so it made the process and the wheels of congress move slowly purposely to preserve liberty. all legislation doesn't lead to liberty so all legislation is not something we want to happen.
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i'm still for the filibuster. the filibuster didn't stop healthcare. what stopped healthcare was republicans who promised to vote for real repeal are no longer for that. that's a question they need to take up with their voters at home. >> shannon: many will have to do that facing voters in 2018. always good to see you. >> bill: interesting conversation. breaking news from the u.s. capitol on the floor of the house of representatives. steve scalise, the majority whip out of louisiana, shot on a baseball field more than three months ago, has returned to capitol hill. we expect to see him momentarily. we expect him to take part in several votes today possibly, as well as deliver an address from the floor of the house. so we have not seen him publicly. just a few pictures here and there. apparently he did an interview this week with 60 minutes that will air on sunday night. at age 51, shot through the
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hip, the bullet lodged inside his body, d dinot exit. it caused extensive internal bleeding and it l to numerous surgeries. he has been in in-patient care for more than three months but very soon he wants to go home to louisiana and that's a moment he cannot wait to happen. but first before that takes place we're going to see him live on the floor of the house. a big moment when you talk about infighting and partisanship. this is one of these moments that we're going to watch together live where everybody is going to come together. so steve scalise momentarily. >> shannon: that will be a big moment. we saw people praying together
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for him across partisan lines and wishing him well. the rhetoric has to change. it's tough to become reality. >> bill: we were sitting in the morning of june 14th and you did not know the full scale of the shooting. the shooter had driven in from illinois, he was shot and killed by the security detail that had been traveling with steve scalise to that baseball field. this was right before a congressional baseball game that everybody looks forward to every year. and this shooter found his position and did the damage that he did. and he is dead, scalise is alive and scalise lives on to deliver his message today. >> shannon: that morning was certainly a very emotional one as we heard from winded members running away from the scene who themselves felt like they just escaped being targets themselves. as you mentioned fact he is part of gop leadership he had security detail. had he noten there it could have been a different story. >> bill: heroes out there that day. we'll take you back to the floor of the house when that moment happens. in the meantime new details on this toseri lek. what reality winner, that's her name, told the f.b.i. when asked about a classified report and how she got the documents
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out. stay tuned. >> shannon: tax reform moves forward as the house freedom caucus gives the latest plan a thumbs up. that voting block is a huge one for getting this done. jim jordan is on the committee and he joins us next. >> we're not only moving forward on tax reform, as i told you many months ago that we would be doing, but we're actually being aggressive and bold about it. test? yep, and my teeth are yellow. i mean i knew they weren't perfect, but ugh. oh well! all hope is lost. oh, thanks! clearly my whitening toothpaste is not cutting it. time for whitestrips. whitening toothpaste only works on the surface. but crest 3d white whitestrips safely work... below the enamel surface... ...to whiten 25x better than a leading whitening toothpaste. hey, nice smile! thanks! i crushed the tissue test. yeah you did! crest whitestrips. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. when it comes to reducing the evsugar in your family's dietom. coke, dr. pepper, and pepsi hear you
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>> shannon: steve scalise returning to the house floor for the first time today months after being gunned down at a practice for a charitable baseball game. he will take to the floor shortly. it is a big day, a big return for him. we'll take you there live as it happens. in the meantime ohio congressman jim jordan is a member of the freedom caucus and want to talk to him about taxes and your colleague returning. your thoughts on this big day? >> it's a great day. i think steve will walk through here in a few minutes which will be unbelievable to see because he is such a good man and such a tough and courageous individual. it will be one of those special moments for the house. >> shannon: he has been through so much. multiple surgery, therapies and all kinds of things to return there. in the wake of that event back in june, there was a lot of goodwill. do you feel like any of that has carried over across the aisle? >> we'll see. we aren't getting the things done for the american people
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they elected us to do and what we told them we would do. that hasn't happened yet. namely healthcare. we start the process on tax reform. you will see the house come together in a few minutes when steve walks from the floor and addresses the entire body. >> shannon: let's talk about tax reform. dropping the rates, dropping deductions and all kinds of things the president rolled out. critics say they need to see more. in the meantime you penned a piece in the "wall street journal" worried about the fact this was being done in secret and holding back on whether there be conservative consensus behind this. have you seen enough? it sounds like you have to convince you. >> we wanted a framework that actually was going to answer three big questions, does it cut taxes for families, does it simplify the tax code and will it be a code conducive to producing economic growth? we think the answers to those three questions based on the framework is a yes to all of them and we know what the corporate rate is going to be, the small business rate.
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how many brackets on the personal side. those were some of the details and specifics we wanted before we were willing to move forward. we're strongly in favor of this and support the budget and move forward hopefully to get tax reform and tax cuts for families soon. >> shannon: is it a totally different mood? healthcare was divisive. do you feel now republicans are united? we know you as a leader of one of the conservative groups is on board. do you think it will go across the board? >> i do. again it's why we held out until we got some specifics. if you remember with healthcare, we passed a budget for this current fiscal year thinking we were going to get clean repeal. that's not what the house leadership rolled out. we won't make that same mistake again. we want to know what the tax reform package will look like before we move ahead with the budget. the framework is good and families will be able to keep more of their money. time to move forward and get it done. >> shannon: here is what democratic senator chuck
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schumer, the senate minority leader says. it seems that president trump and republicans designed their plans to be cheered in the country clubs and corporate board rooms calling it on the senate floor wealth-fare. your response? >> come on, it's about letting families -- doubling the standard deduction, lowering the rates, only having three brackets, bringing down the corporate rate which produces economic growth which helps every single family across this country. we have some basic concepts. make sure families get to keep more of their money and construct a tax code that will produce growth. we think this outline and framework does that. that's why we're moving forward. the democrats will say what they always say. they always do. let's cut taxes for american families and grow our economy so we can have the kind of opportunity we need in this great country. >> shannon: what is your perception how it will impact the debt and deficit as a package based on what you know
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now? >> you have to get growth. the last 10 years we were bumping along at a 1% growth rate and debt doubled during the obama years. to deal with a debt of 20 trillion you need 3 to 4% annual growth rate. you can't do it with the annual tax code. you have to have growth to deal with a debt of that size. we think it's the right place to go. over time when you get that growth you get additional revenue to the treasury and begin to deal with this huge debt burden we now face. >> shannon: some critics on the left and right who say when you give these tax cuts they don't believe it's a proven formula to grow the economy and somehow that money has to show up. they're asking questions about which tax breaks are going to survive and which aren't. now comes the business of lobbying which will go hard core on the hill. something americans don't have a taste for but who will ultimately win and lose do you think? >> every time tax cuts are tried they work.
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you over time get additional dollars to the treasury because it spurs economic growth. we know this worked in the kennedy years and it worked the last time we did it in the reagan years. it will work again. it will unleash the dynamic components of the american economy and the entrepreneurs across this great country. that's what this is about and you have to do that to deal with the debt the size that we're talking about, a $20 trillion debt. it's the right way to go. most importantly, this is what we told the american people we were going to do last november. we told them we would cut their taxes and get economic growth and job creation happening. let's get done what we said we were going to do. >> shannon: we'll watch to see if you get bipartisan buy-in on that. enjoy the day with your colleague returning to the floor. good to see you. >> bill: we'll bring it to you live when that happens. 20 past the hour now. senate investigators calling on facebook and other tech giants to testify. they want to know about
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russia's attempt to influence the election through social media. jason chaffetz standing by to answer those questions. >> shannon: the formerfit lady slamming women who voted for president trump. if you're a woman you should have voted for hillary clinton. or you n't like yourself. our panel will debate it. >> we know why she lost. look at hillary clinton. she was a treasure trove, like a treasure box of negative hill tree information with arms and legs. at bp's cooper river plant, employees take safety personally - down to each piece of equipment, so they can protect their teammates and the surrounding wetlands, too. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.
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>> shannon: right now injured congressman steve scalise is on his way to recovery and meeting with house speaker paul ryan. he has tweeted i'm back with a picture as he returns to the hill. he has been through grueling months since that attack,
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shooting at congressional baseball practice back in june. several others involved there. he took the worst of it by far. there were others injured who have continued to recover including his security detail, brave capitol hill police officers who were out there. really put themselves on the line. they continue to recover as well. this is his first time back to the hill. as soon as that happens, we'll keep an eye on him and get you there live. >> bill: fox news confirming that former nsa contractor reality winner accused of leaking a classified report on russian hacking to influence the election told the f.b.i. she smuggled it out of the nsa headquarters in her pantyhose. fox news contributor, former congressman jason chaffetz to talk about this. if we see steve scalise we'll intethe rrt nversation. you'll understand that.
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when isthe last time you talked to stev what do you reflect on today? >> you know, lsu is playing byu, a place that i went to and steve and i chatted about that. there is no way i was taking a bet. lsu is going to kill byu, and they did. he is in good spirits and it is truly a remarkable story that what he and his family have gone through, the pain and the rehab and the surgeries and, you know, if not for the heroic effort by a couple of capitol hill police officers you would have seen a lot more people shot and probably killed. it is an amazing emotional moment for him to get together when he walks on that floor, there will be not a dry eye in the place. >> bill: we're on stand by for that. please understand if the interruption comes. what do you think should happen to 25-year-old reality winner? >> behind bars for as long as
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possible. you can't unilaterally decide to make classified material not classified and just release it out. there are people's lives in danger. you will get people killed. i wish there was more consistency from our government in prosecuting these types of cases. but she should not be released and there is no way that she should be given this veil that she is trying to get and i want to see her behind bars for as long as possible. >> bill: the reason why this is important. if the russians attempted or were successful hacking some of the databases for voting software suppliers, that's a big deal and we need to know about it. on the other hand, you have members of congress who want to talk to the tech giants and bring them before hearings on capitol hill. now, president trump is tweeting that social media is against him and mark zuckerberg from facebook fired back. campaign spent hundreds of millions advertising online to get their messages out even further. that's 1,000 times more than
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any problematic ads we've found. he continued. trump says facebook is against him. both sides are upset about content they don't like. that's what running a platform for ally -- all ideas look like. >> he says the russians were not influential in the election but he took their money. coss needs to try to figure out whmight have been trying to manipulate the election, particularly from outside of our country. and make some sort of determination. when they put up ads online you don't have the same disclosure requirements that you do if you put them in other types of venues. and so congress is going to be looking at this. not just facebook, i think you'll see google and others called up before capitol hill over the next 12 months. >> bill: it's google, twitter in addition to facebook investigators want to know
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about all that. where does this go? it's a tough thing to manage. i don't know whether it's dictated out of washington or not. >> well, again, i think disclosure will be one of the themes that you see. you have senator langford who is very savvy on this issue who has been looking at this. it is about disclosure and you do want to know what's going on with these foreign entities and their ability to come in and influence an election or try to influence an election. zuckerberg saying it was minuscule compared to everything else. senate has to look at that and the house should look at it as well. >> bill: very interesting considering how many people are online every day and social media is a big part of so many lives now. we'll follow it with your help. thank you, jason, for coming back today. shannon, what's next? >> shannon: house majority leader -- the house whip steve scalise back to work today. just wrapped up a meeting with speaker paul ryan. we're told he may be heading to
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>> bill, i think sometimes politicians in washington are a little slow hearing the cry of the american people and they've cried out for several years about the need to repeal obamacare. they did in 2010 electing republicans to the house and 2014 the senate and the white house. they want us to deliver on this. the president is committed to repealing obamacare. several senators feel like we ran out of time. they've gone around the graham-cassidy, giving the states flexibility to run plans best for their constituents but we now have run out of time on that. we think we have the votes. it will likely be part of a budget reconciliation early next year. so the president is excited that we're agreeing on a concept and now we need more time to deliver on it. >> bill: he thinks he can get rand paul to vote on it. graham and cassidy will be at the white house in about an hour today. 30 minutes ago rand paul told
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shannon this about those prospects. >> the main thing i opposed in graham-cassidy they kept the obamacare spending and shuffled it from democrat to republican state and petty partisanship and big government and fake repeal. but yes, there are parts that we could vote on and i met with people, the white house and the senate leadership and said i'm ready to vote today if they'll put forward something that is simply a repeal bill. >> bill: that doesn't sound like a yes. there are 10 caveatss in that answer right there. what don't we get? >> we're working with him on several things. associated healthcare plan and something he advocated that we think we can do from the executive branch. we're optimistic in earning his support. we think when you talk about one of the biggest titlement reforms, repealing the individual and employer mandate and very important to senator paul, he prides himself being a pro-life senator.
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this was our best chance to actually deliver pro-life legislation that insured taxpayers weren't funding abortion. the dollars would have been provided through the states to do that. we are disappointed rand wasn't supportive this go round. the process argument mccain and mckowski with a different process they could get supportive. we want to get the 50 votes that could include mccain, murcowski and what others we can get. >> bill: you do the math and we'll try to follow along. the point of this is healthcare reform is not dead. that's the message the president wants to deliver on that and we'll see whether or not he is right. tax cuts. paul ryan told sean hannity this last night about the plan that was made public yesterday. >> this is the kind of plan that donald trump ran on, house republicans ran on and yes, we'll get this done. this is about economic growth, it's about bigger paychecks and more jobs, it's about a fairness system in our tax code
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so we're really excited about this. that's why we spent all this time working with the president and yes working with the senate and house to make sure we're on the same page so we work off the common outline, the common framework to go from here to get this done. >> bill: that was from last night. "wall street journal." the challenge now is to sell it better than health reform. resist the special pleaders, and pass it by the end of the year. can you complete all three? >> bill, that is our ambition and our goal. we need to do it by tend of the year. the american people suffered for two longs. last eight years we had 1.8% average growth. the worst growth of any president since the depression and herbert hoover. the american -- our corporate tax structure is so outdated companies are moving their manufacturing plants overseas.
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we need to bring those jobs back and about time we start turning the economy and getting growth into it. >> bill: by the end of the year or not? >> we plan to get it done by the end of the year. >> bill: you come back any time. a lot of breaking news. marc short live in the washington bureau. thank you. >> shannon: we continue to await the arrival of injured and now recovering congressman steve scalise on the house floor. mike emanuel is there on capitol hill watching and waiting. let's check in with him to see what he knows as we await this timing. a big day, mike. >> absolutely, shannon. good morning. we got a tip and we've been here in statuary hall waiting for his joyous return to capitol hill 3 1/2 months after he was shot at the congressall baseball practice. when they're told scalise is returning to the chamber.
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their faces light up. i doubt there will be a dry eye in the house chamber when scalise addresses the house chamber a short time from now. they are expecting some votes. we ran into house speaker paul ryan a short time ago and he had just met with mr. scalise and he seemed overcome with emotion. there were worried their dear friend was going to die after the shooting incident at the baseball practice. it has been a very long road for him. a lot of infections, a lot of medical procedures. scalise has described it as basically doctors had to put him back together like humpty dumpty. they had to put steel plates in to reinforce the shattered bones from the one gunshot to the left hip. a triumphant return to capitol hill 3 1/2 months after the very tragic incident. a lot of smiles anticipating hearing from him and seeing him and perhaps shaking his hand or giving him a hug. a lot of folks say he is
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thrilled to be back and very excited and we have the picture of him on the balcony tweeting i'm back. a great anticipation here for steve scalise's return to the u.s. house this morning. >> shannon: whatever the gunman intended, who is now dead, all of his targets survived and they have come through this in a way that has built so much goodwill for the police officers and others who were wounded and the heroes who showed up that day and saved steve scalise's life. when he enters in probably he and congressman lewis haven't voted alike on a lot of things but here congressman lewis and everyone will be there praising scalise's fight to recover. whatever that gunman intended, he won't get that today. >> no question about it. as a person of faith, obviously, a lot of people have been praying for steve scalise. he has responded to those prayers, a lot of prayers have
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been answered by his return here to capitol hill. a lot of people didn't think it was going to happen. the doctor at immediate star washington saying that death was imminent when he arrived at the hospital 3 1/2 months ago. there were infections and concerns those infections could lead to potentially death and so a young guy with a young family, somebody who is known for his smile here on capitol hill for democrats and republicans. i can't tell you how many times i've seen steve scalise come bouncing through here with a big smile on his face greeting all he meets. a joyous day here on capitol hill. >> shannon: we will check back with you and keep watch on that. thank you so much, mike. >> bill: imagine the rehab he has gone through trying to walk again, wow. tough indeed. apparently he did an interview with 60 minutes and he said about louisiana, i can tell you i cannot wait until the day that i get back home. in a way he is coming home today. we'll see him live in a moment on the floor of the house.
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>> bill: paul ryan a moment ago meeting with steve scalise in the speaker's office there and he told reporters he doesn't quite have the words to explain how he is feeling now with his colleague back at work. steve scalise will walk through statuary hall and we believe he will be on the floor of the house. will take part in several votes today depending on the house calendar. we do know he will make a speech
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that will be quite a moment as we await his return just about three months and two weeks when he was shot in the hip during a baseball practice near washington, d.c. steve scalise is back. moments away. >> shannon: former first lady michelle obama talking about women who voted for president trump instead of choosing hillary clinton. this is what she said, quote, any woman who voted against hillary clinton voted against their own voice. that we look at these two candidates as women and many of us said he is better for me, his voice is more true to me. to me that just says you don't like your voice, you just like the thing you're told to like. let's bring in the panel. jessica tarlov is a democratic strategist and katie pavlich editor of town hall.com. katie, first run at that. >> i think people -- women like their voices, they didn't like hillary clinton very much. i wonder if michelle obama is
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no longer proud of her country now that barack obama is no longer in office and hillary clinton wasn't elected to preserve his legacy. turns out there are a lot of women around the country, particularly in the midwest where hillary clinton failed to campaign that believe in economic prosperity, jobs, rather than identity politics. and so if michelle obama wants to continue insulting people who didn't vote for hillary clinton. she can do so. it doesn't seem like a wise choice at this point. >> shannon: exit polling. when it came to voting for hillary clinton versus donald trump. 54% of women voted for hillary clinton, 41% for donald trump. but hillary's numbers were down with female voters from what president obama got. he got 55% in 2012. so she wasn't convincing all the women that she was their best choice, either. you know that 41% of women who
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voted for trump won't be happy about that comment by the former first lady. >> no, they won't be happy about it. if you break down the numbers further we see it was actually a split with white women and african-american women overwhelmingly black women supported hillary clinton and white women that she had a problem with. college educated, in fact. traditional voters who would have gone for barack obama. i think this comment was not particularly useful. i do agree with katie about that. i think that coming off a campaign where we have the deplorables comment that would have been talked about better and systemic issues racing through the donald trump campaign. it was a larger interview and she mentioned the access hollywood tape and how it continues to offend her and how anyone could have heard that, especially a woman and still voted for that man. he will put more money back in
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your pockets and a lot of people voted for the businessman president, male and female. i think that it was a mistake. i'm sure that sound bite will show up in a lot of ads in 2018 and 2020. >> shannon: i want to give you a chance to respond. justice ruth bader ginsberg from the supreme court is speaking again. she talked about donald trump before the campaign. as a justice she probably shouldn't have been talking about politics. whether she was asked about sexism affected the outcome of the election. i have no doubt it did. it was a major factor. >> was sexism a factor when barack obama beat hillary clintofor the nomination in 2008? i'm not sure. this old argument of sexism doesn't add up. sexism isn't why voters in wisconsin and michigan, blue states we've been talking about this for months voted for donald trump. they voted for him because of
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his message and because hillary clinton wasn't in touch with people on the ground there and what their needs were. when it comes to what they thought about her, the number one word that came to mind was the majority of voters was liar. they didn't trust her. never able to gain it back. >> shannon: we have 10 seconds. >> i think misogyny and sexism played a role. campaigning in wisconsin would have held. if you look at what bernie sanders did and the impact his campaign had on hillary clinton's campaign when you lose by just thousands of votes it was 77,000 overall, i don't think that the story is as clear-cut as many are making it out to be. rbg can do no wrong. >> shannon: i'm sure katie would want to further discuss that but you can't because the segment is over. >> bill: on wisconsin. waiting the return of steve scalise in a moment but first going to show you a demon, drag racing car that is now street legal and you'll see it in
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>> bill: you do not want to miss this moment. we expect to see steve scalise, the house majority whip, return to the floor in a matter of moments here. shot through the hip 3 1/2 months ago, still recovering and this will be the first time we have seen him in public. i would imagine, shannon, this is quite a touching moment for everyone there in congress. >> shannon: you have to remember as we were sitting here and this was all unfolding in that early morning, we didn't know exactly how he was doing. it wasn't until within a couple of days later we realized just
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how grave his situation was. so let's listen in now as they get ready to welcome him back. >> bill: we are not sure whether he comes down the center aisle or perhaps through one of the rooms off the side. but we know he is using crutches to aid his appearance today and we understand he will deliver a speech. the moment has arrived. [applause]
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[cheering and applause]
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[applause] speak of the chair wishes to mark the return to the chamber of our dear friend and colleague from louisiana, mr. steve scalise. [applause]
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>> our prayers have been answered. bravery and his famils strength has been such an inspiration to this house and the people it serves. america is grateful for this moment. chernow proudly asks, for what purpose does the gentle men from louisiana speak recognition? speak out of order mr. scalise. [applause]
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the gentleman is recognized for as much time as he may consume. [laughter] >> thank you, mr. speaker. you have no idea how great this feels to be back here at work and the people's house. [cheers and applause] as you can imagine, these last three and a half months have been pretty challenging times for me and my family. if you look at the outpouring of love, of warmth, of prayer, my gosh, jennifer and i have been overwhelmed with all of that outpouring and it's given us the strength to get through all of this and to get to this point today. it starts with god. [applause]

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