games this weekend, and one really big surprise. i hope you'll join us next week. we'll always be fair and balanced. have a great weekend, and we'll see you back here. dana perino is next, straightb ahead. ♪ >> dana: good evening, everyone. i am dana perino. welcome to "fox news tonight." there's been a big shake-up in president trump's cabinet tonight. earlier thiss evening, health ad human services secretary tom price resigned after pressure for taking private charter flights on the taxpayers' dime.e. first our top story, the culture war growing even hotter. all eyes are on the nfl this weekend to see if some playersng continue with their refusal to stand for the national anthem. last night every player stood for "the star spangled banner" o during the weekly thursday gamet here's what president trump had to say about that. >> i've spoken to other owners,

and i really think it's coming together. i noticed last night or i was, told, i didn't see it, but i heard everybody stood for the national anthem, and that shows respect for our country, our flag, and for the national anthem. so i'm very happy. i heard that, and they should stand. you have to stand. it's our national anthem. you have to stand. >> dana: there's new polling on the anthem issue which we will show you. the anthem controversy isn't thh only front that's heating up.n in a story that seems like it's from the pages of "the onion" a massachusetts librarian rejected melania trump's donation of dr. seuss books because they're examples of, quote, racist propaganda. then she's thinking of a different dr. seuss. i don't know. joining us now for reaction is lawrence jones and in los angeles leslie marshal.. you all have lots of titles. friends are one of them. and joining me late night on a friday night. i do appreciate it. lawrence, if i could start with

you on the nfl. we did see possibly the nfl and some of the teams figuring out a way to do this. jerry jones of the dallas cowboys, i know you're from dallas, basically that they said we're going to kneel and then we're going to stand for the anthem, and is that the -- whatn the other teams are picking up,y that maybe that's the way that they can show solidarity with their team and the patriotism that they have for the country. >> yeah, because i think it's important to note that the movement was actually dying for a period of time..ou you had colin kaepernick.k. it depicted the as pigs. a lot of people didn't support him. you had other like three athletes that decided to support the movement, but the movement was dying, and the president kind of ignited the movement back up and stirred the pot, but as it relates to the dallas cowboys, what they decided to do is they were going to stand together as far as kneeling before the national anthem against the president, but then showing respect for the anthem,

so that was a balanced approach. this movement has gone from police brutality to a movement against the president. >> dana: leslie, how do you see it? you pay a lot of attention to this radio. when you do radio, i know you hear from a lot of people, and i'm curious what you heard asle the week went on. >> i think and i know we're going to show polls later. the die-hard fans want to see football. and being from boston, i'm a pats' fan.rd i would tune in to see if they're going to stand, kneel, lock arms? there was a meeting earlier with the nfl commissioner, owners, coaches, and they really decided

that they need to do something regarding this issue going forward and regarding unity. i think the bottom line is the people are telling me that are calling in, they want to see the game. they don't think these people are being anti-american. every nfl player has an american flag on their helmet, but they do feel this has become quite a distraction to their favorite sport. >> dana: you mentioned the polls. gaagom this is a new cbs poll that is just out. the question was the views of americans who are polled in this, and the player protest of the national anthem. approve of them, 38%, but disapprove 52%, so that those the majority thinks that standing for the national anther is correct, but then take a look at this one which is the question of the president and his comments, and the views of president trump's rally from last weekend, disapprove of that 48%. so i think both things can be true. if you can think that people have a right to protest, you can also think the president may have gone too far, but maybe after a week of all of this heat, by sunday, lawrence, does it sort of calm down and we have a -- we find a way to get back to football, but also to deal

with the issue? i think that there's a real opportunity for bipartisan movement forward on criminal justice reform, and i think the president could play a leadingi role in that. >> dana, i think we talked about this off air as well.ld i had a problem with the president specifically commenting on another man's business. it would be like somebody in trump tower going in and telling donald trump to fire everyone. i think that was problematic and that's why a lot of the players rallied against him. but a lot of republicans are leading the way. that's a conversation that needs to happen. it's been problematic because one of the people that the president appointed, jeff sessions, is against criminal justice reform, and we have senators from ted cruz to rande paul saying this is an issue we seed to tackle. i think a lot of people in america have real experience. when you have tim scott who is the first black senator since reconstruction saying i've been

stopped by capital police six times and had an actual experience and people saying nod this is part of the problem. this is a guy that's a conservative just like me and is on our side, so maybe we do need to have these conversations. 95% of cops are on the right side of this, but those bad apples, how do we handle o that, and that takes a national conversation. >> dana: leslie, do you think there's a chance of bipartisan agreement? i know corey booker agrees with rand paul, probably more agreement on that than just about anything on capitol hill right now. > yes, because i think it comes down to justice, and i think democrats and republicans both see when there are injustices, especially toward african-americans, which, by the way, take the knee, that's how it all started, and that's what it was about. it wasn't, i hate this country, it was, i don't like what'sou going on in the african-american community. >> he wore those pig socks, and so it destroyed his message. when you depict all cops as

pigs. it would be like an officer saying all black people were thugs and criminals. i'm sure the black community as i would push back against that, and i think that's part of the problem, leslie. a lot of people when theyth interject in this conversation, specifically on the left, maybe not you, but they make this a racist issue when it's really a government intrusion issue, andc i think when we start having those conversations from that perspective, then -- we can reach some common ground. >> wait, lawrence. i've got to disagree with you there. just when you look at the statistics, and you're african-american. >> i'm a black man, and i know the experience. >> exactly, you know that experience, you live that experience. i only hear from people that have that experience, but when .ncejust look at the stats at ii who is being stopped for whatt reason or where and by whom, and then when you look at the fatalities or the injuries when a gun is fired, i'm sorry, but i do think that's the element ofof racism is there, and, by the way, that is another national conversation that we need to have that i think we can have

bipartisan agreement on going forward. >> dana: i think we might agree on one more thing. want to bring this up to you. lawrence, this librarian in massachusetts, she is a teacher, she's a librarian. s,e's one of the recipients of the generous offer that melanias trump, the first lady of the united states, sends dr. seuss books out, and this librarian has to post an open letter, and says she doesn't appreciate it, the schools were wrongly targeted and dr. seuss is racist. especially "the cat and had" that's her in the actual dr. seuss outfit. >> this is more of the trump last night. the first lady should -- i know michelle obama got some pushback because she was telling people how to feed their children. it wasn't so much of a partisan thing, but i think we should allow first ladies to be graceful and take these causes

head on. whether you're talking aboutad michelle obama or melania trumpe i think we should not talk about them. >> dana: this librarian that did this open letter, we wouldn't have known about this, but she sort of pushed it out into the open. and then the first lady's office responded. leslie, why does the left make it so easy for the right to get outraged? >> well, maybe -- i don't know, because we're talking about it. first of all, this librarian, i'm from boston. and you know that, dana. cambridge port, where she is and where that school is, is an extremely wealthy school district where most of their parents have ph.d.s and seven letters after their name with all of their titles, and i've got to tell you, i love dr. seuss.itit i don't think when i read "one fish, two fish, red fish, blue

fish" it's racist. my kids have it on a bookshelf. >> dana: that's math. tasthe red fish and the blue fish, dana. come on. but the bottom line here is i do believe that it was right for her to return the books because this is an uber rich community. >> dana: i'm going to disagree. here's the thing. if the librarian was thatt offended and she's like we don't even need these books because we're such an wealthy place. here's an idea. instead of coming down on melania trump gather up theoohy books and do a service project where they read to children who need help. why does it have to turn into something against melania trumpi that's where i think the lebron, with all the phd's, missed the boat. >> well, okay, dana, this is one of the reasons we're friends, because this is what i said off the air. they should have just taken the books and gone to a school thatt was more needing. >> dana: smart women think alike. >> obviously, yes. obviously this is a woman who does not like trump, but i have to say that i don't think the first lady should have

responded.wa i don't think -- look -- >> dana: well, here's the thing. if you are in the press office, you're going to get the lastg. word. you're in the press office -- i've been there -- and you find out that this librarian did thit blog post and you get a call from the press saying what do you think about this, you've got to respond. why not? >> this is a first lady that's been attacked for the heels that she wears. >> dana: she's pretty classy when she responds. >> she doesn't respond often. she tells president trump, hey, be careful with the twitter. be more presidential. so when you have melania trump saying, hey, you have to listen. you have to take her word for it. >> dana: this is my last night of hosting this show, and i've made it, i'm still awake, and i have stopped drinking caffeine for 15 days, and you were here for it. thank you so much.

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>> dana: as we mentioned at the top of the show, president trump today accepted the resignation of tom price who charged taxpayers for private chartered flights. joining us now for reaction is a man who has quite a few thoughts about government waste. that's steve hilton. you see him on sundays you see him as host of "the next revolution." he joins us from losni angeles, and thank you for being on tonight. we appreciate it. how thecertainly not president expected to end the week, but on wednesday we sort of saw the writing on the wall, that this was not a sustainable thing. this is actually the swamp. >> yeah, great to be with you, dana, and great job this week.ua i've been watching every night. it has been great to see. >> dana: thank you. >> i think that on a personal note, i think it's a little sad. tom price seems to be a decent enough man, but politically i think this is the right thing to do because it send a very important message to anyone in washington who is tempted to use taxpayers' money to get the luxuries in life for themselves personally.

that is not okay and completely cuts across what president trump has been saying before and after the election about draining the swamp, but the real point is this is really just -- if you like the tip of the alligator if that's the right analogy in terms of the swamp in d.c., this is a personal matter, it's right, but what draining the swamp really means is getting to that web of political donationsd and lobbying and corruption that really affects policy for alll our viewers tonight, and draining the swamp means getting stuck into all of that, not just coming down on bad behavior when it happens like this. >> dana: talk to me about that. earlier in the week you had on monday the collapse of the second attempt at obamacare repeal and replace, and you had the introduction kickoff by president trump following up on his missouri speach on tax reform. and is thatt the kind of sort of

revolution that you talk about on your show which is these are the actual matters -- issues that matter so much to the economy and to the people, and yet we seem unable to get them over the line. tax reform could be different. what do you think? >> well, let's just take health care first and take something very specific. even -- just this year, 2017, the pharmaceutical industry hass spent nearly $150 million on lobbying. so we've got tom price spending a million on plane trips, $150 million on lobbying. members of congress make the rules that affect their business. the consequence is higher drug prices for americans. the vote on repeal and replace obamacare, that comes down i think in the end to something else that's very swampy, but of a different nature, which is the individual political motivations. a brilliant column in the "wall street journal" today, the most powerful people in terms of implementing the president's

agenda, rand paul, john mccain, and susan collins. and particularly looking at susan collins why is she against basically anything in terms of repeal and replace because she'l thinking of running for governoy next year, and so that's the first consideration for her. when it comes to tax reform, though, and this is something we're going to be looking at on the show this sunday, i think for once you've got more chance of something really happening because there does seem to be an element of unity around certainly some of the key planks of this tax plan, for example, reducing the corporate rate. that support goes not just across the republicans, but even some democrats agree with that. >> dana: let me run this quote by you because rich lowry in the "national journal" wrote about what you're talking about sort of big picture, and he said thea republican party can't pass obamacare repeal but it can nominate roy moore in alabama. this is the state of the g.o.p.

it is in mortal combat. you have the benefit of not being necessarily in this bubble. you're in california. that might be another bubble, but looking at this, do you think that he's right, that the party at least the republicans, he's talking about them, and the inability to see eye to eye, the democrats also in a split, and the american people sort of sit there wondering, at what point is somebody going to do something for us? >> i think it's a big political question of our time, and it's one of the main things that we focus on in our show, and i describe it as positive populism. how can we turn this into a positive agenda for reform that gets things done? the interesting thing for the republicans it's more than the two wings. yes, you've got the establishment, yes, you've got the populists, but there's also e p the conservatives, and i think one of the biggest tensions is the difference of view

politically between center right populists and conservatism. it's not the same thing at all. one specific example you saw with the tax plan. and president trump at a populist is very keen to make sure that the tax plan doesn't benefit the highest earnings and therefore is against some sort of big reduction in the top rate. you saw rush limbaugh last night on sean's show being very worked up about that and saying that is not conservative. conservatives believe in lowering rates for everyone including the wealthiest because that stimulates the economy. that's a real issue. it is not establishment versus populism. it is conservative versus populism. this is going to take a long time to work out. >> dana: i believe you have a good friend of mine on your show this weekend, chris stirewalt. just make sure you feed him a steak. he'll be in a really good mood for you on your show on sunday night which i love, and i watch it on sundays.

>> right before we go on air or does he need time to digest? >> dana: it's a constant need of feeding. you'll have to space it out a little bit. steve, thank you so much, and good luck with the show this weekend. >> good luck for you for monday. i'm really excited. >> dana: i'm going to see you there one of these days. monday at 2:00. straight ahead the federalng government scrambled to ramp up aid efforts to puerto rico right after this.

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the fact of the matter is puerto rico was a disaster waiting to happen. the electrical grid on this island is entirely suspect. the puerto rico electric power authority is bankrupt. they have been scrimping on maintenance for years. i was here in september 2016. they were blacked out for three days just because of a fire in h single power plant. the cabling, 16,000 miles of wires, stretching throughout the villages and cities here on the island of puerto rico are antiquated and very poorly maintained. the power stations themselves, ironically, and that is the bitter irony, are functioning perfectly, but there is no way to get the electric power from the power plants to the people who needy, them. that's why there is no fuel. they can't pump the gas. they cannot pump the gas from the tanks in the ground.

that's why there's no water in the high-rise buildings. there's no electrical power to run the elevators. that's why this situation is so very dire. the main culprit, two female names, irma and maria. two historic storms that hit this island back-to-back. maria came ashore with 155, 160 mile-an-hour winds. this system had no chance of withstanding against that kind of power. yesterday i met with someone who worked for me for 14 years, my old handy man, jose, was destroyed, his business is destroyed, his dock is destroyed. his daughter natalie was my secretary at fox news. before i get back to the story about the power situation here's what natalie had to say about

when maria came ashore. >> it was very tough. all the ceilings were blown out. it was very terrifying. very, very terrifying. we thought that we were going to be drowned, but thank god, nothing happened, but like the rest of the island is very devastated. >> to see the devastation on the south side of puerto rico, which is little traveled by the officials here in the capital of san juan, is to understand the despair of so many puerto rican people. they felt they were alone. the big part of that problem was the lack of communication. there's no cell phone service. there's no internet. no telephone. that's why people began to panic. that's half of what is going on on this island today. that reassurance can be brought by president trump when he arrives here on tuesday. but the whole fact that theseht power stations are up and running but cannot transmit power, that all goes back, that is traced back to the puerto

rican electric power authority. they went bankrupt a year ago. they have been scrimping on maintenance. i think they should be the 16,000 miles of cables that connect the island. i think they should be absolutely criminally investigated for gross negligence if not criminal incompetence. when the president comes i bringing his message of reassurance to the puerto rican people, he will also have to decide what to do about the infrastructure on this battered island. the puerto rican electric power authority is bankrupt, $6 billion in debt. where is the money going to come to rebuild the infrastructure. in world war ii when the war was over they had the marshall plan. the marshall plan rebuilt europe from the ashes and chaos of world war ii. what's needed here now, call it the trump plan, if you want. h a man who's built impressive

hotels and other buildings, if he seeks the american people's consent to spend billions of dollars to rebuild puerto rico, i think the infrastructure can be replaced. in san juan, puerto rico. absent that, this will happen again. dana, back to you. >> dana: that was quite a report, and thanks to geraldo for doing that to us tonight. he's been working so hard all week to bring us the story. and james comey us live with more response let's go to ed more response let's go to ed more response let's go to ed 'shenry. he's at the white house. >> good to see you. remember right before hurricanes harvey and irma, there had been a media narrative that these would be major tests for president trump. well, his administration largely passed those tests, at least in the early stages, and you heard them get very little credit. now a change in the wake of hurricane maria.

the administration still playing defense because of the heartbreaking scenes you saw. his reporting andne other reporting. the federal government has been a bit slower in its response in the devastation. the challenge for the president's administration made more difficult by elaine duke, the acting secretary who said she was very satisfied with the response and called it a good news story. j that infuriated the san juan mayor who said this is a people are dying story. this is a life or death story. this is a there's a truck load of stuff that cannot be taken to people. the president was focusing on a tweet where he said the following. the president today in an impromptu news conference seemed to be defending elaine duke and his administration's response.

>> elaine duke is acting and done -- she's working very hard, and i think what fema has done has been incredible between all of these hurricanes. >> interesting because you can see the u.s. military still playing a very critical role. we've got these new photos of the 101st airborne division. secretary duke is on the ground in puerto rico. she clarified she meant this ish a good news story because americans are pitching in to help other americans and she also said she's not yet satisfied. the president said the administration is sending in truck drivers critically needed to get the supplies out in the difficult infrastructure, and the president said major decisions are going to have to be made between he and leaders from both parties on capitol hill in terms of how much resources they're going to puthi up to rebuild puerto rico, not just in the short term, but long-term. >> dana: ed, thank you for your work. let's bring in my colleague froe

"the five," kimberly guilfoyle who is of puerto rican descent, and p as i understand, you have family that is on the island. >> yes, in different parts of the island, sadly in the area near san juan. everybody's really pitching inin trying to help each other out and brings the best in humanity, and many people questioning has this administration done enough, the president? and i think when he gets there and sees the devastation, how badly the people of puerto rico are suffering, i know that he will step up to the plate and contribute even more than they're already doing which so far they are definitely tryinghe to make an impact. >> dana: geraldo talked about a marshall plan or something like it, like a trump plan being needed for puerto rico. that is how devastating it is.ma that was a complete rebuild. >> absolutely, and it's an interesting and an important historical reference because it does give you pause.

when you think about it, he is on the ground there. he is able to see hands-on, first-hand knowledge and information about what is going on and what is needed. o this is a unique and important moment in president trump's administration and early in his presidency to try to do something to reach out and help the people of puerto rico. if you do not establish the infrastructure now, it will happen again like geraldohi sai. so maybe it is time for the trump plan. >> dana: he said something just now that i haven't heard all week. he said he thinks there should be criminal indictments against the power company because it failed the people and maybe corruption, maybe waste, maybe incompetence, that all of that money that was supposed to go ty the grid was just not there. >> he's right. i think it is a really important point. they have failed the people of puerto rico. where was the money diverted to?

people very concerned because they're not going to be able to get the power back up, electricity, plumbing, and maybe six months? that is undetectable. it's untenable. did you imagine if people actually still in diverted funds and misappropriated it? of course, there would be held. and if there's any loss of life, they could be held criminally liable as well. those types of crimes cannot go on prosecuted, undetected. they should investigate it and make sure the people who are doing that are held accountable so they do not continue to steal from the people of puerto rico and create identity situation like that. >> dana: there have been mixed messages from the island. some of the mayors saying this is a situation where we're dying, and i imagine that they're saying that because they're actually seeing it firsthand. the governor i think is beingit very smart. he's appreciative of what the federal government is doing, he doesn't want to criticize the president because he wants to have a good visit so that he can continue to get all of the aid that they're going to need, and the other thing we didn't exactly talk about tonight is

that you now have a three-star general, general buchanan who is going to be on the ground.no >> that was one of the best pieces of news. if you have somebody there, nobody does it better than the united states military in terms of organizing, getting supplies. they really need a general in there. it shows you how serious they are taking it. that commitment of troops, resources, is going to be pivotal to makett the change te and help the people that are suffering. >> dana: i appreciate spending my week with you. >> happy anniversary tomorrow to you and peter. >> dana: that's right. 19 years.in >> i never forget. >> dana: kimberly, thanks. when we come back the head of the u.s. air force academy delivering a powerful message. after a horrible act of racism. after this. ♪

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if you demean someone in any way, then you need to get out. and if you can't treat someone from another race or a different colored skin with dignity and respect, then you need to get out. >> dana: joining us now for reaction from washington is thomas mcinernie a fox news contributor and aon retired air force general. sir, i'm so glad you could be with us. to help us explain, because when i woke up and saw this video going viral this morning, i thought, how does this actually happen at an air force academy? i grew up in colorado, i'm close to the air force academy, i liked going there, especially when i was on the speech and f debate team, the university of southern colorado, we'd go there all the time, and this seemed shocking, and i think it shocked the general as well. >> by the way, dana, i know they loved to have you there when you went. yeah, look, the superintendent

was spot on when he said "you've got to get out." i want our viewers toas understand, dana, that this is a very rare incident, and i think when they go through and they do the investigation, it's going to turn out to be an individual who came from a different environment and he didn't aunderstand -- remember, those prep school cadets are in there brand-new two plus months, and so they haven't had the full indoctrination. it was not as you pointed out at the air force academy per se, as you said in your introduction. and so it's an anomaly. i can assure you not only is the sup on it, but the secretary of the air force, heather wilson, general david goldfein, by the the chief of staff of the air force. they're both classmates from the air force academy, by the way. they're going to have leadership

all over. it will be resolved, no yes about it. now, the political scene that we have been faced with the lastst eight plus years, and it's noww exhibited by the nfl controversy, has politicized this issue. this racial issue. it's unfortunate, and then that's why somebody got through in this particular case, but pii feel very confident, dana, that the air force leadership will solve it quickly. >> dana: did you find it interesting, maybe a sign of the at times, that it is new and modern. the general gives them permission and encourages them to take out their phone and videotape it. i thought that was interesting. he is in touch with the new generation that wants to have everything at their fingertips so they can constantly look at it and that was an interesting moment to me. have you ever seen anything like thatk before? >> no, we didn't have iphones in my day, and the fact is he wanted them to record it, as you pointed out, so that they can play it back, and they know explicitly what the sup is

telling them to do, and i think they'll find the person or persons and that they'll be dismissed for conduct unbecoming a cadet. >> dana: i wanted to ask a lastt question to you. there's something about the military and how you are trained and the way that you are able to speak to people and just thatoma leadership ability that is incredible, and in some ways were feel like for these kids, this is like a parental moment that you had somebody that was speaking from the heart, it wasn't a teleprompter, it wasn't inauthentic, it was just absolute leadership. where you think that comes from? when you're in the military, is there a special little secret sauce that you get when you're in there? >> well, when you send people on missions in combat to die, you learn to be very explicit given the guidance you have to, you accept the responsibility, but that's where theync learn it. that's the secret sauce, dana,

and you just develop it over time, and, of course, by the time the sup gets there, as a three-star, he has developed that, he has that experience, and that's why it's so vital to the leadership that he is passing down to the cadets. >> dana: absolutely remarkable,t and you, i know, sir, come from a military family, and thank you for all you've done and for being here with us tonight. >> thank you, dana. >> dana: up next, a different subject altogether, is oprahnk planning a presidential run in 2020? how she's setting off a frenzy of new speculation.. right after this. ♪ look at geico... you know, geico can help you save money on your homeowners insurance too? great! geico can help insure our mountain chalet! how long have we been sawing this log? um, one hundred and fourteen years. man i thought my arm would be a lot more jacked by now.

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♪ >> dana: oprah for president? well, we may be hearing more of that soon after ms. winfrey tweeted out "thanks for your vote of confidence." she's said to be the best hope to bet president trump in 2020. is a true? gianno caldwell is here. let me go to you first. is this possible? i think it is possible that she would run. i'm not saying she would when met, but is it possible she

would run? >> you know what? no, the short answer. i kind of think that no, i'll say no, the short answer. i think my auntie oprah has flip-flopped on this issue a lot. more than gucci in a pride parade. >> dana: it is good for her own personal pr.r. >> there's been speculation twice this year where she allowed, and president trump had an interview with george. right when he announced. he said he liked hillary clinton, it should be an excellent example. in addition in 1999, he had an interview where he saidid he believed on larry king, that she would be excellent, and she would win. so she hasn't stomped the speculation, but i don't think that she can win because the politics what she could have won in the '90s and the 2000s no longer exist. this is now a brass, very tough election cycle for anybody, especially going up against

donald trump. >> dana: cad, what dates do you have for me? any? >> i have that we are currently living in banana land. that's a technical fact. because now it's just oh, there's a tv to white house pipeline just because donald trump was elected? the 2024 president elect jerry springer. 2028 president elect ricky lake. 2028, that's going to be me. you get to run, you get to run. you get to run, you get to run. why wouldn't i? everybody thinks they can win. president trump won, because he was speaking to people that felt they were being ignored. come on oprah, the rock, do your job. >> dana: president trump has been talking about politics for a long time, and he has certain strange that he believes in, and the populace piece that you can

see, but you can see strains of it andnd everything, including x reform, which he just announced. i don't know what oprah's tax reform would look like. >> that's a very good point there. if you want to look back, during "the oprah show," when she asked him would he ever run for president, he said he would ifra the country needed him, and he obviously it listed his reasons and he talkednd about trade in e country being ripped off. oprah winfrey has been a very powerful voice in this country. she has been a pioneer for all women and people in this country, obviously. i just believe that at this particular point in time when it comes to tax policy, certainly, i'm sure, it will be something that will be beneficial to most people, but i mean how many regular people does oprah really know? we don't know.t we do not know at this point. >> dana: let's talk about, cat, from the other way. you're not necessarily saying you're going to run for

president. if you're on tv, it's kind of a good thing to keep your name ouy there as a possibility that you might want to run for president one day.go >> i suppose, but when are people not talking about oprah? you know, people know -- >> dana: you want to know why i think this came up? she's got a new thing on "60 minutes." t and buzz. >> i still wouldn't -- i would never vote for her because you know what? she's a democrat. >> dana: that's a solid answer. >> she wants to take my money and doesn't want me to carry a gun wherever i want. >> dana: gianno, you blew me away with all your research. i appreciate you both. coming up the only thing youwa absolutely must catch next week, stay tuned. i'm going to tell you. >> dana: before we go tonight, i'd like to tell you about some exciting changes to the daytime fox news lineup that you're stay tuned. i'm going to tell you. ♪

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♪ >> dana: before we go tonight, i'd like to tell you about some exciting changes to the daytime fox news lineup that you're going to see starting monday. at 9:00 a.m. eastern sandra smith joins bill hemmer as a permanent cohost of "america's newsroom" at 1:00 p.m. harris faulknerhi starts her own show "outnumbered overtime" which will build on the stories from "outnumbered," the popular program that airs before her program at noon, and then at 2:00 p.m. eastern you can see yours truly.. i'll be on "the five" at 5:00 p.m., but it's a true honor to get my own program and a chance where i hope to draw on my experiences in washington and here on fox news to take you beyond the scenes and give you a better understanding of what's really going on in washington each day.o so that's been a great week for me, and "fox news tonight" will be back monday.

brian kilmeade will be in the anchor chair all next week. you're not going to miss that. b i've enjoyed it very much. thanks for being with me.ch good night, everybody. ♪ "tucker carlson" is up next. have a wonderful weekend, everyone. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it is one video shot on a cell phone recently, shot at the university of california at riverside, but it tells you a lot about what our kids are learning at school and, therefore, where we may be heading as a country. in the video, a student sees a man wearing a "make america great again" had become so enraged that she steals it off his head. he demands it back. she refuses. and this exchange ensues. watch. >> do you know what this represents? this represents genocide. >> i