media buzz at foxnews.com. try to look at the comments. will be back your next sunday. >> mitch mcconnell is not our problem. our problem is that we promised to repeal and replace obamacare. if we are successful, mcconnell is fine, if not we are in trouble. >> do you believe the athletes to use pressure point in order to press their point. >> they should be listened to. the issues raised should be discontinued. the president is making this about patriotism and it's not. >> there's an oil rig close to paris line that blew up. >> we are treating it as we have unaccounted for -- ♪

♪ ♪ heather: good morning, good monday morning. thank you for joining us for the 4:00 a.m. hour of "fox & friends first". i'm heather childers. president trump set to meet with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. first time that the two come face to face since the senate failed to repeal obamacare. i hear you laughing a little bit, griff, who knows what's going to happen in this? >> exciting here in washington. majority leader says the leader will sit down with president and vice president for what they are calling a working lunch in a statement last night. discuss the fall agenda which includes budget resolution and passing tax reform and judicial nominees among things to repair

damaged relationship that became public as the two took shot with each other in the failure to pass health care. >> our new president has not been in the line of work and, i think, had excessive expectation. >> i'm very disappointed in mitch, but if he gets the bills passed, i will be happy with it and i will be the first to admit. >> former chief white house strategists steve bannon says that he's committed to taking on the establish rent and asking for mcconnell's removal and disavowed mcconnell and even worse, you saw republicans not all on the same page still even after the president saying executive order allowing americans to purchase health care across state lines last week, senator sus scene collins of maine, one of the holdouts

says she's concerned about what the president has done. >> i'm concerned of the people who make less than 50% of poverty level. if they can't afford then insurance policy is pretty much not useful. >> this is certainly possibly going to be on the menu today at the white house. rather. heather: what did you call it mcconnell monday, i like that, griff. thank you so much. i appreciate it as always. the meeting as president trump takes his tax plan to the american people. senator lindsey graham predicting trouble ahead if mitch mcconnell can't deliver results on taxes either. here is what he has to say ahead of big meeting today. >> mitch mcconnell is not our problem, our problem is that we promised to repeal and replace obamacare and we failed. we promised to cut taxes and yet to do it. if we are successful mitch

mcconnell is fine, if we are not, we are all in trouble. we lose our majority and i think president trump will not get reelected. i hope that we can get a deal to allow continue pavements. the president is not going to give $7 billion unless something changes in obamacare that will justify it. he did talk to senator alexander and encouraging him to get a bipartisan deal that would give flexibility to title 1 mandates but it has to be a good deal. heather: how about this story, disgraced and unemployed colin kaepernick filing a griefance against the nfl. former quarterback claiming that owners are teaming up to keep him off the field because of inpatriotic protests. live with the story that everyone has got on opinion on, good morning, jackie.

jackie: happy monday to you. heather: we have been talking for a while now. jackie: the no-fair league, colin kaepernick, accusing nfl owners of collude to go keep him off the league. former 49ers quarterback out of work since last season. claims he's unemployed for starting to take the knee protest during national anthem. lawyers releasing a statement saying owners are depriving mr. kaepernick of retaliation rights. the demonstrations remaining a dominant theme sunday and not just players either american idol jessica sánchez, look at this, she took a sing after singing the national anthem during chargers-raiders game. to t protest sparking nationwide outrage. hiring a private pilot to fly a plane with the banner reading, be american, boycott the jags, but the level of disrespect

hitting the new low in new orleans, same players knelt to tribute, boos from fans ringing down during moment of ie lens. the latest wave of protests coming hours before owners are set to meet behind closed doors, goodell requesting whether or not teams to stand, demands in arbitration hearing on the matter, whipping a collusion suit it's very difficult, he would have to prove that 32 owners got together and they we are not going sign this guy. heather: i was wondering how difficult that would be for something like that. jackie: he's going to try. heather: he's definitely going to try. we will talk to our next guest and he has inside. here to react, liberalism, how

to turn good men into whiners, winnies and wimps, burgess we loved having you last time, thank you for joining us today. >> thank you, heather, looking forward to chatting with you. heather: what do you think happened with sunday night football? >> there's a couple of things, what we are seeing is a lack of education in our progressive school system, a young man who is about to -- you have to understand when you're calling fans racists or pigs or police pigs and all the other things he's doing, the fans doesn't want to buy that. at the end of the day, the nfl has been recognized that if they don't get good return on invest rent, they won't make tin vestment. heather: i'm sorry, that does seem to be what they are doing because let's get right here as you're mentioning to what goodell had to say, many fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the national anthem, we want to honor our flag and

country and our fans, expect that of us. but even still following this memo, sunday night football several of the football players still took a knee. >> there should be consequences or fines. what the nfl should have done at the beginning to have season, they recognized and they thought that they could get away with it. american people showed us that one thing we don't want to be attacked is flag or culture. good lesson for those who want to learn a lesson from it. heather: how much was hit contract worth and how much is he actually getting now with all of this controversy that's swirling around him just in terms of outside of the nfl? >> heather, i tell you this, colin was supposed to make $36 million.

we had a black eight presidents of billionaires across the country and we are talking about black oppression, we need to talk about collusion that's going on for those starving kids for education, starving kids and they are doing it on purpose and major corporations, behind bet which they own and ncaap. the conversation that you should be having what's happening to black community that wealthy young men and black americans are turning down american. there's a reason for that. it's not by accident, it's not because of skin color. we need to stand up as a country against that and everybody else, any marxist or socialist. heather: as a former nfl football player, does it make you sad to see this happening to the sport in general. you look at the stadiums where all the fans used to go, they've all bonded together, stood up for the national anthem, you see all of this happening now with the sport itself, how does that

make you feel being a former player? >> heather, you nailed it, this is what marxist do, they destroy everything they touch, whether it would be the black family, school system, a brand that was built through decades where we all come together and enjoy ourselves and see men, grown men compete and now here we are fighting -- we are trying to debate on whether the flag is something that we should respect or not. understand, we are in a war and it's not against each other, it's against ideologies, socialism and marxism coming out of the black community. heather: look at the history of national anthem in sports, game one of world series, during world war i, so it did have something to do with that. thank you so much, burgess, i appreciate you for joining us. join us again, bye bye. we want to know what everyone at home has to think. colin kaepernick, does he have a case, let jackie ibañez know

what you'll think, she will be talking to you on facebook live all morning long and we will share responses later in the show, certainly do that for us. well, now to fox news alert now. coast guard intensifying search for missing man after oil rig explodes on a lake outside of new orleans, eight people were on board the rig but only seven made to shore and taken to the hospital and five of them in critical condition at the hour. witnesses saying loud explosion and large fire ball and cloud of smoke, one person describing the blast as sonic boom, officials now warning that oil may be leaking into lake and they are looking into reports of cleaning chemicals triggering that blast. well, firefighters begin to go make progress against raging wild fires of nearly a week of being displaced, thousands of people finally getting the

all-clear to return home. >> a week ago it started as a nightmare and the day we've dreamed of has arrived. heather: at least 15 fires are burning but close to being contained, finally so far 200,000 acres have been reduced to ash and at least 40 people are now dead. in just hours president trump will be back in the campaign trail, commander in chief hoping to help republican south carolina governor to keep his seat, fundraiser in greenville today. in november all of 15 of carolinas counties went to president trump and the time now is about 12 minutes after the top of the hour, deserted his unit to fellow soldiers and got praised by president obama in the white house rose garden. >> he wasn't forgotten by his country because the united states of america does not ever

leave our men and women in uniform behind. heather: and today bergdahl is back in the headlines, we are back with the latest, awesome place off the field, getting baptized by teammates ahead.

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hearing in fort bragg, expected to plea guilty, misbehaving before the enemy and endangering fellow soldiers, it is not known if bergdahl and attorneys have striked a deal, searching for him after he left his post in afghanistan, says he deserves life in prison. >> there are men who -- who don't get to live at all so much less even enjoy a hot meal in prison. to me justice is life in prison. >> bergdahl walked away from unit and taliban kept him in custody for five years in pakistan, some military members were severely injured while searching for him, five years later the obama administration arranged bergdahl's in exchange for releasing five senior taliban members from guantanamo, president obama did not notify

congress which he was required to do and claimed bergdahl he claimed with honor and distinction in rose garden ceremony. >> the united states of america does not ever leave our men and women in uniform behind. kelly: bergdahl case proved not to be a good chapter, sergeant is expected to plea guilty in a military court hearing today at 9:00 a.m., heather. heather: all right, 9:00 a.m., we will be watching, kelly wright, live for us, we appreciate it. time now 18 minutes after the top of the hour and former white house chief strategists steve bannon with a warning to establishment republicans. >> nobody can run and hide on this one. these folks are coming for you, president trump is not even going to finish this term, he's going to win with 400 electoral votes in 2020. heather: is he write, political

panel up next. and fast-food worker refuse to go serve police officer, what happens next? you're going to love this one for sure.

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it makes you wonder: shouldn't we get our phones and internet from the same company? that's why xfinity mobile comes with your internet. you get up to 5 lines of talk and text at no extra cost. so all you pay for is data. see how much you can save. choose by the gig or unlimited. xfinity mobile. a new kind of network designed to save you money. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com. >> let me give a twoorng you, no one can run and hide on these one. these folks are coming for you. this is not my war. this is our war. [applause] >> and y'all didn't start it. the establishment started it. president trump is not even going to finish this term, he's going win with 400 electoral votes in 2020. [cheers and applause] heather: wow, big words there, 400 electoral words. steve bannon declaring war on the republican party saying that their jobs are on the line if

they stand in the way of the president's agenda. so will his threats become a reality for the establishment, here to debate, editor at red alert politics, ron and fox news contributor jessica, thank you for joining us. bright and early this morning. we are not quite bright yet. [laughter] heather: jessica i will start with you, are they in danger? >> i think if republicans don't get the job done they are in danger but not necessarily because donald trump and steve bannon are coming for them, it's because the voters will be coming for them. that's what they've been running on for seven years, haven't come up with a plan, trump resort today executive orderers, the republican establishment along with president trump have made promises about tax reform for years. if they don't deliver on tax cut, a lot of them will be on the chopping block. i don't see 400 electoral vote

and i see a democratic presidency. heather: so ron, i will talk to you about this, do you think people will blame republicans for not working with president trump, though, to get some of the things established that jessica just layed out for us? >> yeah, i think if there's no health care law, no tax reform, not one dollar for the wallet, no new infrastructure built in the country they will go after republican incumbents and democrat incumbents, people are frustrated that neither side can work together to get anything done for the american people and certainly they'll give bannon some power, if washington continues to fail, but i think it's not just bannon's people or trump's base, a lot of the american people who are just very upset that washington is uni want -- inep, the and can't

get anything done. >> totally. democrats at the moment are still split, left-wing that's pulling centrist in medicare for all taking harris and a number with them and we have the centrist moderate block that speaks more to the nation specially in light of the results over the eight years where we lost a thousand seats in total and the big one. so we have our issues over here as well, but, yes, dejavu and i hope we don't dejavu on this side. heather: 2018 map favors republicans. >> a lot of people wish he was talking on offense there. what you should be focusing on is putting people who can win and people who will represent

values into the primaries to take on these democrat senators. we have to -- the only way you're going break a filibuster is by electing those ten -- flipping those ten seats and unless that becomes the focus and unless that's what happens, republicans are still going to be stuck on not being able to pass agenda unless they get bipartisan help from democrats, jessica is totally right, the progressive wing of the party has made it totally impossible to work with the president and, listen, i think there are a lot of things like infrastructure, a perfect example. why can't we get infrastructure deal done, because hard left has made working with trump impossible. >> the president should have led with infrastructure, i completely agree. heather: everybody says that. will matter a lot for the election to come and also we need to think about donald trump's popularity. i think know it's something that steve bannon likes to ignore, but the president even in a lot

of state that is he won handily popularity is slipping, so we have vulnerable senators but also vulnerable president and vulnerable agenda. >> chuck schumer and pelosi are so much more popular. heather: actually they're not. >> i know. heather: people on both sides whether democrat or republican just don't want to work with the current president. >> right. heather: that's a whole another problem that we are dealing with. thank you both for joining us this morning. appreciate it. we will have you back, though, now that you've been here. >> that's a threat. [laughter] heather: very early. >> give me coffee and we are good. heather: time now about 27 minutes after the top of the hour and it is a classic taking on the topic of racism. >> you never really understand the person until you consider things from his point of view. one school district wants to kill a mockingbird out of classroom because it makes

people uncomfortable, plus colin kaepernick says nfl owners are sabotaging his career and keeping him off the field, does he have a case? jackie ibañez is reading all of your comments as they come in, hey, jackie, there she is. >> good morning, heather, according to facebook live fans, no he absolutely has no case. we have only heard one person and he may have something here. we will take a quick break, join me on facebook live right now.

heather: well, in just a few hours president trump will meet with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. the first time the two come face to face since the senate fail today repeal and replace obamacare. griff jenkins live from dc with preview of the big meeting, good morning, griff. [laughter] >> good morning, heather, the majority leader spokesperson

calling this a working lunch, majority leader will sit with president and vice president to discuss fall agenda which completes budget reslieción and passing tax reform and confirming judicial nominees among other things, as we all know as the two leaders try to repair fractured relationship over failure to pass health car. >> had excessive expectation. >> i'm disappoint with mitch, if he gets these passed, i will be the happy with him and admit it. >> in particular removing mitch mcconnell issuing a litmus test in midterms or face wrath of bannon challenge, other conservative groups as well,

this is as president tries to move forward on health care issuing executive order last week but drawing fire from none other than democrats from minority leader nancy pelosi. the president says repeal and replace, where is the replace. this week, the week of friday the 13th, the week that president trump went rogue, he went rogue on women's health in particular, affordable care act. >> the stakes heater are high, 10 senators are up for reelection in states that trump won, no word yet on what's on the menu on the frosty tense lunch. heather: hopefully feel-good food, they can probably use that. thank you so much, griff, appreciate it. let's talk about the pentagon for you, revamping a program that allows immigrants to serve in the military in exchange for u.s. citizenship. defense secretary james mattis announcing all applicants have to pass background checks before

basic training through the military sessions vital to national interest program, mattis halted the program last year saying the applicants needing better vetting to protect against insider threats. after the fox news alert for you while you were sleeping south korea and the u.s. sending out 40 warships along north korea's border to prepare for missile launch from the rogue nation. kitty logan joins us from london of joint drill and other international headlines, good morning, kitty. >> good morning, heather, yes, you're right, five days of life fire exercises involving the u.s. and south korea starting today. now the uss reagan is taking part in the drills along with two other u.s. warships, the exercises are fairly regular as you know, the south korean foreign ministry says this as to prepare for any possible naval threat from north korea, there

are escalating tensions in the region followed by tests in north korea including six nuclear test despite un ban. north korea is threatening to fire more missiles amid fears it could develop a missile capable of reaching the u.s. heather: another story that we are following at this hour, death toll seems to be rising in bombattack, what do we know? >> yes, horrific bombing in somalia, death toll to over 300, many hundreds of injured as well. the bomb exploded in a crowded street and hospitals have been absolutely overwhelmed with casualties, the worst attack in that country in ten years, the somali government has blamed group for attack and they have not yet been claim of responsibility but, of course, the u.s. is also involved in that fight against extremists in somalia. heather: to austria, the world's youngers conservative leader about to take control.

>> also the youngers leader in the whole of europe. >> sebastian and one of the question issues that came up in this election was calling for tougher border controls and that's what slung the vote for kurz, it's interesting to know that he will have to form a coalition government. heather: live with international headlines, thank you so much. appreciate it. well, do you remember this horrifying video of cheerleaders being force intoed splits, well, the coach responsible will apparently walk free. the district attorney, i should say in denver ruling that williams will not face charges and excuse the exercise as, quote, power stretching. came under fire after videos surfacing of cheerleaders desperately asking them to stop,

the coach lost his job and athletic director resigned. harvey weinstein laundry list of sexual assault allegations just got longer, british actress say that is weinstein raped her in london back in 80's saying that it left her feeling disgusted and embarrassed. the bbc reporting a second unnamed woman also joins at least 30 other women with similar claims. as for the clinton foundation, it is keeping harvey's cash, the daily mail reporting that it will not return as much as $250,000 in donations, the foundation says the money has already been spent. late night host james corden apologizing for tasteless joke about that scandal. >> right here in la it's so beautiful harvey weinstein has already asked to give massage. [laughter]

>> i don't know whether you like that joke or you don't like that, if you don't like that joke, you should probably leave now. heather: corden to latest poke fun, here with the social media fire storm is carley shimkus, siriusxm 115. >> should comedians be joking about this at all because corden's did not go well with accusers and a lot of people on social media so much so that she's issued an apology, he said this on twitter, sexual assault is not a laughing matter, i was not trying to make light of harvey's inexcusable behavior, shame him abuser and not the victims, i'm truly sorry for anyone offended, that was never my intention. now he made those remarks at gala on friday but getting hammered on social media. a lot of people said, yeah, you

should not have gone there. let's get to reaction. i'm of the opinion that if you need to explain your joke, it wasn't funny and in this case it wasn't just unfunny it was inappropriate and susan says, it wasn't that you caused offense, you exploited the mismore than of others to try to be funny and then you were not at all funny and rebecca says, really poor taste, really bad timing, really not funny at all. others are saying, he's a come -- comedian. employee at whataburger restaurant in dennison, texas not only refuse today serve police officer but proceed today curse them out. manager at this restaurant let this whole thing happen saying, i don't get involved in politics, so the dennison police chief wrote about the situation in facebook and then finished facebook post saying, this even though this one business accept employee

that is refuse to serve and curse cops, i guaranty you when they call 9-1-1 and need us we will come running, that's what cops do. well, whataburger corporate released this statement, they responded saying, we immediately launched an internal investigation when we heard these reports, we took swift action and this person is no longer employed by us, we reached out to police sergeant to apologize. so the employee got fired, the police received an apology and a lot of people on social media are responding to this story. erin says, as dennison pd wife, i want to say thank you to all that support our loved ones in uniform even when there's ugly in the world. back the blue 100%, these great men and women put their lives on the line daily for us, they will never have my business again. so it appears, though, that wattburger did handle the situation. heather: finally philadelphia eagles, baptized one of their players in a hotel pool.

>> philadelphia eagles marcus johnson before thursday night's football game got baptized in the pool at the team's away game and posted great picture with the caption, first time being baptized, corporate worship is a beautiful thing, cleansed and reborn and -- in jesus' name, pretty interesting, very lovely celebration before the game. heather: they were playing my carolina panthers. the time now 20 minutes until the top of the hour, the police officially going off the rail. tomas the tank engine is going gender neutral, neutral, why our next guest that america needs a reality check.

heather: welcome back to "fox & friends first", pc police going off the rails targeted tomas the train engine, tomas and friends will replace tomas' two best friends with two females to make it more gender neutral but is this really what viewers want? here to weigh in media managing editor katie, katie, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. heather: hey, these are imaginary talking trains, what in the world is going on? >> i understand -- tomas the tank engine has been around since 1946, this is a very -- the show is newer than that but all of it is extremely old. and i understand from matel's point of view, maybe we need to

spike things again. everyone loves dora the explorer and we will kill two of tomas' friends and bring the women. heather: kicked to the curve and replaced with two female named mia and rebecca and the un got involved in all of this? they were advised by the un? >> absolutely, they wanted make it more inclusive. i don't have no problem with that. you want to bring more women to the show, fine, if you want to entice young girls to watch a show about trains, foster interest in them, i think that's great but often two of the guy friends just because seems little unnecessary and i mean, hey, though, i will say if they were trying to get people to talk about their show here we are at "fox & friends first" talking about thomas the tank engines. heather: how will it make boys

feel, why not keep both of them have the girls and boys. let's join let's talk about other topic, mississippi school district, they are pulling a literary classic because it makes people uncomfortable and this is to kill a mocking bird, right? >> this one i would say is really tragic, the point of this book is to make you uncomfortable, understand the sins of the past and the things that did wrong and the people who stood up against wrongs and racism to make the country better and bringtous where we are now and trying to shelter people from that, education is not about keeping people ignorant and i'm appalled that they have done this, it's important to understand as i said our history and trying to shelter people from that. i don't understand what they they they are accomplishing. heather: reminiscent of what we heard in the past, school district that is try to ban certain books and also evidence

of what is going on in a broader perspective outside of school, what's happening in our communities as a whole. >> again, it's all about sheltering, making sure that no one's feelings ever get hurt, no one ever feels uncomfortable and that's not life, that's not the real world, you are going to experience those emotions many times and when teachers and parents try to shelter, it sets you up to be fragile adult when you are older and we are seeing fragile adults now. heather: i went to comedy show friday night and that's what the comedian hit on, it's true, you to learn that you're not always going to get your way and you're going to be criticized. things are going to happen, you to learn how to deal with it early on and as adult you'll handle it better, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. come back any time. bye, bye. time now ten minutes until the top of the hour, forget the pharmacy, revolutionary new way

to get those prescriptions filled without leaving the house or clicking a mouse, plus taking on the melania trump haters after designers refuse today dress the first ladies, at least one of them is sticking up for her.

heather: welcome back to "fox & friends first", business alert for you now. massive recall for popular martha stewart product. urgent warning over cake knives that perhaps we are going to show you, apparently they cut more than dessert. tracee carrasco in fox business network and you will show us which knives they are talking about. tracee: good morning macy's is recalling martha stewart

collection. there is on your screen right there because the handles could break off in your hand and cut your hand. heather: the handle itself. tracee: reports of injuries, people have had to have stitches because of this happening, july 2014, january, 2014, july 2017, sold at macy's stores across the country online and at military exchange, if you have one of those, take it back to the story. heather: will you replace it or get your money back? tracee: i'm sure they will give you your money back. heather: not good idea to replace it unless they fix the problem first. ordering your prescriptions will be different, right? tracee: forget waiting in line at the pharmacy, order prescriptions the wave of the future, you could soon do it through amazon echo or google phone. there's a company now rx and you'll be able to do it with

voice command. alexa open now rx and it will open the app and be able to place the order for your prescription, refill a prescription and then that's it. heather: that's interesting, i could see potential problems with that, though. tracee: absolutely. they are still waiting for approval from google and amazon to do this, they are expected that very soon. heather: someone else using your, you know, devices to order prescriptions based on your name, they would have to fix all of that. tracee: they are computer compliant which means they are able to make sure, ensure your safety. heather: checks and balances are in place. victoria beckham and love her designs, she's willing to design for the first lady. >> you know, there have been several designers who have come out and said that they do not want to dress melania trump, tom ford, mark jacobs, christian siriano, a few of them, former

spice girl turned designer, if given the chance i will be happy to do so last week at vogue fashion, i would jump at the opportunity and in fact, melania trump has worn some of victoria beckham's clothes, she hasn't personally dressed her but chosen to wear some of her swrowt fits. heather: designs are very classic. i think they would be very fitting for the first lady. love it. feel free to design us. tracee: happy to wear it. heather: five minutes until the top of the hour, colin kaepernick says nfl owners are sabotaging his career and keeping him off the field, does he have a case, your comments are pouring on this one and jackie is reading them up next.

heather: colin kaepernick filing a grievance, comments pouring in. hi, jackie. jack: how does she have a claim when other players are still playing. look no further than in the mirror. allane on facebook says kaepernick charting new territory, the nfl will settle with him.

he may have a case but overwhelmingly most people saying, nah, he's trying to get in the light again. heather: conversation continues and certainly people should continue to make comments. as always, that wraps up 4:00 a.m. hour of "fox & friends first", i will see you back here tomorrow same time, same place, until then have a great day, "fox & friends first" continues now. rob: it is monday october 16th, fox news alert, oil rig explosion, breaking overnight massive fire ball erupting on a louisiana lake the search having right now for the missing. >> president trump and mitch mcconnell coming face to face for the first time since the august obamacare failure. what to expect ahead of the big meeting? rob: hail mary play here, colin