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infamous trump dossier and controversial uranium one deal. now the white house has been bracing for the possible unsealing of the indictment tomorrow, and mr. mueller? well, he's putting his cards on the table after months of working in the shadows, it seems. meantime, there is a widespread list of speculation on who could be in legal hot water and what the charges tomorrow morning could be. garrett tenney is live today in washington, this afternoon with the very latest on a list of those who could find the fbi knocking on their door in the morning. hey, garrett. >> reporter: hey, eric. also a lot of folks who are not happy that word of these charges leaked out. after the grand jury approved of those charges on friday, a federal judge ordered that indictment to be sealed meaning it was supposed to stay secret in part to protect the investigation. on fox news sunday, congressman trey gowdy, who's a former federal prosecutor himself, said he's frustrated that information was leaked particularly if it came from someone on special counsel robert mueller's team. >> i will tell you this, the only conversation i've had with

robert mueller, it was stressing to him the importance of cutting out the leaks with respect the serious investigations. so it is kind of ironic that the people charged with investigating the law and executing the law would violate the law. and make no mistake, disclosing grand jury material is a violation of the law. >> reporter: while we don't know who has been charged, we do know several targets of the investigation so far. the two names we've heard the most are paul manafort and former national security adviser michael flynn. manafort's attorneys told fox news they have not been informed of any charges against their client, though, which would normally happen if he was the subject of an indictment. flynn's attorneys have not responded to multiple requests for comment. as for what the charges will be, former justice department officials tell us at this point in the investigation it could be just about anything from lying to investigators to a business deal made 15 years ago. this afternoon former attorney general michael mukasey said whatever the charges end up

being, they could give us an idea of what mueller's strategy will be going forward. >> whether it's a what's called a speaking indictment meaning an indictment that lays out a broad recitation of background facts or whether it's just narrowly today houred to specific -- narrowly tailored to features of the statute, if it goes broad, that may signal that they've, in fact, uncovered a good deal. if it's a very narrow, technical charge, that's something else again. >> reporter: so there are a lot of unanswered questions that we could have answers to in the next 24 hours, and those answers could tell us a lot about where this investigation is currently and where it will be heading down the road. eric? eric: all right, garrett. in about ten minutes, we'll be talking with susan ferrechio or who could what tomorrow. thanks, garrett. arthel: reports the clinton campaign paid millions for

research on the so-called steele dossier. the washington free beacon first hired the research firm fusion gps in 2015 to uncover info on republican presidential candidates including donald trump. after trump won the nomination, the clinton campaign hired fusion in may of 2016, and that research eventually led to the controversial dossier. caroline shively has the latest from washington. >> reporter: president trump says democrats should quit looking at him over the dossier that claims his campaign had ties to russia and focus on the fact the clinton campaign helped pay for it. the president tweeted in part: >> r eporter: the dossier claims that the russian government helped mr. trump's campaign win and tried to gather dirt on him for potential blackmail. it was put together by former british spy christopher steele. steele shared some of his findings with the fbi around the same time the bureau launched

its investigation. part of it is unsubstantiated rumor, but other parts echo an assessment by u.s. intelligence agencies that says russia intervened in the election. >> if they relied on that dossier and didn't corroborate or vet it, then we have a serious issue, and that's the next thing that house intel is trying to find out, is whether or not the u.s. government relied on it. >> reporter: the firm behind the dossier, fusion gps, was paid more than $12 million by a law firm working for the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee. but the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee says there's a more important question than who wrote the check. >> how much of the work is accurate? how much of it is true? and my colleagues don't seem particularly interested in that question, but that is really the most important question for the american people. >> reporter: today republican senator susan collins said representatives from the dnc and the clinton campaign should have to retestify about the dossier funding before the senate intelligence committee.

arthel? arthel: thank you, caroline shively. eric? eric: meanwhile, overseas now tens of thousands of people have been marching in the streets in barcelona. they're calling for unity in the capital of spain's catalonia region. this comes two days after the cata lan government declared independence from spain. conor powell is following all this this afternoon live in jerusalem. conor? >> reporter: eric, the next few days are key for the crisis in catalonia with the central government in spain obviously based in madrid taking control of that government there, not only the parliament, but also the civil service and the police and all the functions of barcelona and the surrounding region. that move could really enflame the situation there, making it much more volatile. but today we saw hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters take to the streets in barcelona to protest the independence move. last week, of course, politicians in catalonia

declared independence from spain. the region already has a great deal of autonomy with its own police force and parliament, but a vocal minority -- consistently about 40% there -- believe the centuries-old culture is under attack, and they want independence. spain's central government, though, has rejected that independence call, and they've, in fact, called for a new election on december 21st for a new parliament. the latest polls seem to suggest that the pro-union, those against independence, sort of hold a slight lead right now but, obviously, a lot of time between that election and now. both the united states and the e.u. have, eric, said that they're against this independence move and and are calling for dialogue and compromise, something we're not really seeing a whole lot on either side. eric: those crowds are just astounding, and it's an emotional and contentious issue as we know. conor powell in jerusalem, thanks.

arthel: new controversy in the national anthem protest. many texans' players staging a protest just moments ago before today's game against the seattle seahawks after mcnair said of the protest, quote: we can't have the inmates running the prison. will carr is live in los angeles or now with more. hi, will. >> reporter: hey there, arthel. just a couple minutes ago they just had the national anthem in seattle, and the majority of the players on the texans chose to kneel. only a handful stood even after reports that texas seasons -- texans' owner mcnair expressed a statement which in part reads: >> r eporter: but on friday the naacp in houston and representative sheila jackson slammed mcnair's comment. >> and it troubles me that for all that period of time the

owners considered these young men something less than human beings. it troubles me that they are, in fact, a commodity. and i think that that is the concern. >> reporter: of course, this all started with colin kaepernick kneeling last season, and the kneeling increased a lot this season after president trump weighed in. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say get that son of a [bleep] off the field right now? out, he's fired. [cheers and applause] he's fired! >> reporter: we're now learning that a coalition of players has invited bob mcnair, colin kaepernick and nfl commissioner roger goodell to a meeting to try to work through this controversy, arthel. arthel: that sounds like a good idea. will carr, thank you. eric: and a reminder now,

tomorrow evening we're going to have a new lineup in prime time. and just after that right here on on the fox news channel, white house chief of staff john kelly will be joining laura ingraham on her debut of the ingraham angle. just keep your tv on, because then comes shannon bream at 11 right after laura, fox news at night, and shannon's guests will be texas attorney general ken paxton and utah senator mike lee. two new shows start tomorrow night right here. how about that? arthel: how about that? meanwhile, a pivotal moment in the russia investigation could be only hours away with an arrest possibly coming tomorrow. where does robert mueller's probe go now? we'll discuss that. plus, a somber tribute in northern california as a community remembers the dozens of lives lost in those devastating wildfires. how the victims are being honored, still ahead.

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those lost in the devastating wildfires that ripped through wine country earlier this month. 42 bells chiming, one for each victim. the sonoma county day of remembrance also featured bagpipes, a choir and remarks from religious leaders. the wildfires, which started three weeks ago, have destroyed countless homes and forced 100,000 people to evacuate their homes. >> be thankful for all that we do have. so many people lived, so many homes were saved. property is property, i know it's horrible to lose your house, but so many people made it through this and were saved and rescued and got out. and that, to me, is a testament of what we did. arthel: the fires are now contained, but some 2,000 firefighters are working on some hot spots that are still burning. eric: "the wall street journal" or is reporting that special counsel robert mueller has filed the first charges in the russia

investigation. you know, some folks could have a pretty restless night tonight. the journal also saying there could be an arrest as soon as early tomorrow. the reports are sparking a lot of speculation in washington and renewed criticism from some republicans who say mueller is exceeding his mandate at taxpayer expense. but house oversight committee chairman republican trey gowdy, he's cutting some slack for the former head of the fbi. >> i see the reporting, i see the same thing you're making reference to, that he and comey are friends. i'm not really sure what the definition of that is. i've got a lot of coworkers, it couldn't stop me from investigating or prosecuting them. so they're not family members, they weren't business partners. i would encourage my republican friends, give the guy a chance to do his job. the result will be known by the facts, by what he uncovers. eric: and what will that result be? what can we expect? susan ferrechio is here, chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. first of all, who's your money

or on or is the media speculation all wrong? >> well, i think a lot of us believe that the subjects of the investigation right now are paul manafort who worked briefly atop the trump campaign over the summer before the election or michael flynn who also worked for the campaign and then briefly served in the administration. these two we know have been looked at for things that really don't have anything to do with the currented a managers. current administration. paul manafort is being looked at for tax fraud and issues, business dealings going maybe 15 years back. and michael flynn, of course, for lobbying without disclosing that to the federal government. so these are two things that are unrelated to the trump administration, but the theory goes that they could be indicted, one or both, and then mueller -- the special prosecutor, special investigator -- could be using that information to try to get them to tell him more about

whether the trump campaign worked with the russians to try to influence the election. and that's what a lot of us believe might come out tomorrow, that one or two lower ranking people could be under indictment, they could be used to try to barter for information that gets closer to the trump administration. eric: you just hit something really interesting, because you've got manafort and flynn, it could be something almost seemingly as minor -- and i use that word hesitantly -- as not registering as a foreign agent or financial aspects as you mentioned such as any tax issues, potential allegations of money laundering, money going through cyprus, through some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been reported if not millions in manafort's case, how that went through the different corporations. here's what a democratic congressman, adam schiff, you know, of the investigation committee said about manafort, basically some of the questions he could be asked if, indeed, this comes to pass. take a look.

>> what would -- what would the president do on sanctions? that would be the most important information the kremlin would want. so if it is him, it may ultimately help us answer those questions. eric: so what you're saying is they could potentially jam them up with a financial charge to then perhaps flip him. >> right. and that's the common practice in is situations like this. but manafort and his associates have suggested he doesn't have any information like that to offer and that he isn't planning to offer that information. of course, we'll see if and when it happens if that is the case. same with mike flynn. will he, if he is among or one of the subjects here, would he have anything to offer. what we just don't know, eric, is whether anybody has this information, if that information was there to be had in the first place and whether they would offer it up. it's a great mystery now. i think, you know, there are several camps here, and people who really believe the president played a role in the manipulating the election,

tomorrow's a great day for them. they feel like, wow, we're finally going to get some information here. eric: what if they don't? >> we don't know. eric: what if this is something totally unrelated, and how about uranium one and the dnc paying money for the dossier? >> exactly. it's all a big -- well, let me say this too, okay? i work on capitol hill, and i talk to the lawmakers who serve on the intelligence committees that are investigating this themselves. and what i know so far from talking to them is thus far there really hasn't surfaced any information showing that the president colluded with the russians to influence the election. that has not materializedded yet. they've been looking at this for a long time. the information hasn't come about. so you can take that and add that to what we know about what may be coming tomorrow. and, you know, this could be about indicting people who worked for the trump campaign, but it may never lead to this collusion that a lot of people who are detractors of the trump administration, that they

believe occurred. so we just don't know. and i think it's going to be about whether the special investigator can use the information to barter for something else if that information is even there. eric: yeah, and we have the meeting with donald trump jr. and others with the russian lawyer who apparently has kremlin connections, but then apparently nothing came of that -- >> nothing came out of that. everything eric then they've got the other issues of the internet stuff which they've denied any connection with the kremlin. >> right. eric: here's ty cobb, the president's coroner -- one of them -- he said the president has no concerns in terms of any impact as to the what happens to them on his campaign or the white house. none of the white house documents turned over to mr. mueller showed ed that anyone colluded with russia or that mr. trump tried to obstruct justice. the president is fully cooperating with the special counsel, he said. and this is the same time that you have the president today tweeting, man, oh man, you see some of these tweets? never seen such republican anger

and unity in terms of the investigation on clinton-made fake dossier. dems are using this. terrible and bad for our country, witch hunter for evil politics, but the rs are now fighting back, he says. there was so much guilt by the democrats, do something, beseeches the president. some critics say he's just trying to divert the attention, you know, away from the russia situation over to the democrats. >> i sense frustration on the part of the president who has always insisted he didn't do anything to collude with the russians. never, ever strayed from that insistence. he had nothing to do with colluding with the russians. yet we are now seeing information about, you know, that the democrats were, in fact, colluding with the russians by paying for this dossier and also this uranium one deal that has failed to really get scrutinized by anybody which was a deal with the russians. so it just -- i sense frustration on the part of the president that there's a lot to look at over here, yet everybody's looking at him over

here and still suggesting he colluded with the russians when, in fact, no evidence of that has surfaced so far. thus, making tomorrow a very interesting day, i think. eric: all right. we'll have to see. the morning will come. everyone's waiting, when you're in brooklyn in the mob, you get pinched. in washington in the government, you get your lawyer standing next to you in a news conference outside the federal courthouse. susan ferrechio, thank you. >> thanks. eric: arthel? arthel: a reminder that we're still not done with hurricane season. tropical storm philippe makes its way up the east coast. incredible video from florida, it looks like a tornado touching down in west palm beach as philippe moves out to sea but not before drenching the region in about four inch pes of rain. also reports of tornadoes in the miami area. meteorologist adam klotz is tracking the storm from the fox weather center. is that all -- duds that sound strange -- does that sound strange to you too? >> reporter: it's just been an incredibly busy.

a usual year we see 11-12 tropical storms. this is number 16, so we continue to be very active. now, that storm has left the florida area running out over the atlantic, but you seeing it being picked up by a cold front stretching across the country which means this is running up towards the northeast. you can see it kind of grabbing all that moisture and running it up along the mid-atlantic, up into the northeast and embedded in some of this some very heavy thunderstorms where we've seen absolute downpours so far today that continue through the evening hours, continues into early monday morning for a lot of folks on their commute. pay attention to the time stamp up in the corner, this is our future radar, so i'll put it into motion. it moves fairly quick, but it's a large area taking you all the way until nine a.m. before eventually clearing off later in the day. on the back side of this, it's a true cold front. this is dropping some rain as it passes. take a look at forecast precipitations, you're getting into the deeper reds, 5-6 inch. s of rain widespread from

philadelphia, new york, up towards hartford. there's likely going to be standing water on the roadways tonight into early tomorrow morning because of so much rain. flood advisory stretching for a large portion of new england all the way up towards boston, portions of maine as well all the way upstate. huge area, and as i said, this is a true cold front, and there it is. look at this boundary. from 64 degrees in new york, this is wind chill, falling down to the 30s in the midwest. that cold air will be arriving here along the coast tomorrow. arthel: that is a significant drop. >> reporter: yes, it is. eric: puerto rico, well, they are really struggling more than a month after hurricane maria. coming up, we'll be talking with a veteran disaster official about what he saw firsthand on his recent trip and what officials there can do. and that continuing feud between president trump and some senate republicans, well, now some many washington fear it could potentially threaten tax reform. will it? we're live at the white house

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♪ arthel: the white house on defense as the feud within the republican party intensifies. senators bob corker and jeff flake not holding back in their blistering criticism of president trump's policies and his leadership. after senator john mccain attacked mr. trump's, quote, half-baked nationalism. kristin fisher is live at the white house with more. >> reporter: hey, a them. -- arthel. republican senates were asked, you know, do you share senator flake's concern that president trump is hurting our party and is a danger to democracy. but at least today every single republican senator or congressman that was asked that question really seemed to stand by president trump. listen to senator rob portman from ohio followed by senator susan collins from maine. >> president trump was elected, duly elected, including winning

by eight points in ohio. we've got to make sure he succeeds, because the country succeeds. i was not someone who was able to vote for him, but when he was elected, i said i'm going to work with him on tax reform. >> first, let me say jeff's one of my best friends in the senate. i have have enormous respect for him, and i'm really sorry that he's not going to be running for re-election. having said that, i think we need to accept that donald trump is our president. >> reporter: so the message president trump won the white house, he is our president, we must accept that, and we must work with him. one of the more memorable lines from senator flake's floor speech was when he asked his colleagues what will we tell our next generation when they asked why didn't you speak up? today governor john kasich was asked that question point-blank on fox news sunday, and here's what he said. >> i've spoken up -- [laughter] i've spoken up more than anybody. i mean, but mine is not personal. mine is policy.

>> reporter: so his problem with president trump, policy, not personal. is so at least so far this call by senator flake to resist president trump continues to be met by silence from other republicans. and, you know, a lot of that has to do with the fact that they are laser-focused on getting tabs reform done before the end of the year, and that effort will be taking up a lot of oxygen next week on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. also next week president trump's expected to announce his pick for chairman of the federal reserve, and then on friday he'll be leaving for his 12-day trip to asia. he'll be stopping in china, japan, vietnam, the philippines and south korea, all countries that are, of course, very concerned with this growing nuclear threat from north korea. and, you know, one of the big questions continues to be will president trump stop by the dmz, the demilitarizedded zone, right on the border between north and south korea. so far if the white house has made that decision, they have not made it public. but, arthel, my goodness, what a

moment that would be. arthel: we'll be watching, for sure. kristin fisher, thank you. eric: and we have this just in, the head of puerto rico's government power company says it will scrap a $300 million contract with the montana-based white fish energy holdings. do you know about this? it will finish, they say, some of the current work on the hurricane maria recovery efforts. the agency chief says he is bowing out to a demand from puerto rico's governor. democrats and republicans in congress have called for an investigation into how white fish -- which happens to be a two-man, 2-year-old company based in the hometown in montana of secretary ryan zinke -- how it was hired to restore power in puerto rico. local and federal audits of the company are now underway. arthel: and, eric, the power company says scrapping that contract will delay work by 10-12 weeks. 70% of puerto rico still without power more than a month after hurricane maria hit.

officials had been pledging to restore most of the power by mid december. president trump, meantime, signing a $36 billion aid measure last week on top of a $50 billion already approved. joining me now is bobby meyers, emergency disaster services director for the salvation army. he serves eastern pennsylvania and delaware and is just back from puerto rico, and we're going to be showing some of your pictures, mr. meyers, throughout the interview. we're going to get to your mission in a moment, but first, if you could start by describing the situation. what did you see and experience? >> i mean, it's a significant disaster relief operation that's underway. it's unique in that really no part of the country's untouched by maria's wrath, so it's a very heavy lift operation for all those involved whether they be government or non-government organizations. arthel: okay. and i understand -- i want you to break it down for me. i need you, when you stepped foot on the ground there, what

did you see? how did you feel when you saw what you saw? >> i mean, you see it as soon as you step off the plane, in the airport there was literally thousands of people trying to get off the island when we arrived. some of them were tourists that were stranded, some had relatives back in the states that could provide a more comfortable setting for them longer term. and then the minute you leave, you see the devastation. you see it flying in on the plane, the buildings that were damaged, and you realize right away it's a different type of disaster relief effort that's needed. arthel: have you ever seen such a sight? >> i've been to a lot of disasters including katrina, the earthquakes in nepal, and it rivals both of those with the level of damage and impact to lives in particular. arthel: now, mr. meyers, let's talk about your mission there in puerto rico. how are your teams helping? >> so our primary mission focus was feeding and hydration. and so we had ten facilities in

puerto rico prior to the storm, and all those facilities were providing feeding in various forms, everything from hot meals that folks could come get to meal boxes that were produced that we could be distributing throughout the communities that have been impacted. then we put a particular emphasis on water distribution while we were there. a lot of folks realized that food might be harder to come by because of resources get anything and some of the impacts to agriculture from the storm, but a lot of folks may not realize that water is one of the most significant needs that they have. a lot of well water has been impacted to where it's not drinkable, and then a lot of folks that have city water, municipal water provided don't have that because they have no ability to pump it with the power outages experienced. so we did a pretty heavy lifting operation for getting water distributed to those in need and started shifting the focus from distributing of bottled water and jugs of water to water

hydration, filter hydration systems while we were there to help provide a more longer-term, sustainable impact to those in need. arthel: and you said that you have multiple locations in puerto rico. were you able to get those supplies to all of those locations? >> yeah. by the time we had arrived, which was about a week or week and a half after the stormed had impacted, many of the roads were passable. most of our facilities are located on the outskirts of the island. it covers the entirety of the island from the far eastern to the far western regions. the most difficult, hard-to-reach areas that we impacted weren't areas where we had facilities, but the mountain areas in the central part of the state both because of trees and wires down as well as with the heavy rains that they've been experiencing over the last two or three weeks, a lot of mudslides and partial road blockages that were just further hindering what was already a difficult relief operation to. arthel: so once again, of

course, we applaud your efforts and wish that you could get to everyone. but what i'm hearing, again, you've got 70% of the island still without power, and it appears that that is impacting your mission. and so it's my understanding that you're telling me that you were not able to get to some of those outlightening areas. outlying areas. >> yeah. certainly, we make every effort to get to every area that requests services. we coordinate very closely with our government partners as well, and so areas that we might not have been able to reach as an agency, we worked with partners on the government side neighbor do have resources to reach some of those harder-to-reach areas. so the goal was certainly always to provide services to wherever the area was that had been in need. it may not have been salvation army providing the physical transportation of goods, but a lot of times we worked with government partners or other

relief partners to be able to provide those resources that we might have had available to those that were needing the most. arthel: well, mr. miers, that last question was certainly not to in any way discount what you have done there and your valiant efforts and hard work. it's just to point out that there are people who really do need to be reached, and we want to make sure that they're getting the very basics that they do need. so again, we thank you, mr. bobby miers, emergency disaster services director for each pennsylvania with the salvation army. thank you very much, sir, and continue your hard work there. the people very much are in need. >> thank you. eric: they need their work. meanwhile, we've been told that border agents have been arresting more and more illegal immigrants. enough, they say, that the question is where do you put them all? the trump administration has some new plans, and our next guest will talk about that and thoughts on what the nation should do. ♪ ♪

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eric: president trump has made the bo, as you know, a cornerstone of his campaign. now as the government is about to start testing prototypes you see there, the president says controlling the southern border will be a significant step in the war on drugs. >> an astonishing 90% of the heroin in america comes from south of the border where we will be building a wall which will greatly help in this problem. [applause] it will have a great impact. eric: meanwhile, the arrests of illegal immigrants by border agents is reportedly way up in recent months. immigration and custom enforcement is looking at five possible new locations to build additional detention centers to handle everybody. joining us now is a retired marine corps sergeant who's worked with i.c.e., the u.s. marshals service, he's also been

with the regional fugitive task force in new york and new jersey. tommy, welcome. the government says 43%, i mean, that's almost like 50%, but the problem with that though is even if it's successful, they're kind of clogging the system. so what do we do with all the detainees, basically, that they're nabbing? >> well, when i retired, i was back at headquarters two years ago, and i can tell you we had on average 30, 35,000 bed spaces per day. if you increase 43% or 50%, whatever the amount, we need more beds. we're not going to release them like we did under the prior administration. i heard your -- president trump's speech that you just plaid, and he's absolutely right. the gloves are off now. acting director tom hallman, the man is a legend in i.c.e -- eric: why is he a legend? tell me a little bit about him. >> oh, he's 34 years of

immigration experience. he was my boss. i know him well. he's a good man. he cares about the aliens. they're not undocumented migrants, they're illegal aliens. but he still cares about them. we lock them up, he gets -- eric: you just said something interesting. we lock 'em up. i was down in arizona on the border last year? yeah. and they, the guys down there, they said they're talking about what they call catch and release where they would get somebody, and then like a few hours later, they would release them. has that still been going on, do you think? they were very critical of that in the border agents. >> oh, that's absolutely stopping. we are no longer going to do it. but if we don't have a place to put them, for instance, on the u.s./mexican border where you visited, if they're a mexican and they agree to go back, we can send them right back. if they're other than mexican, we call them otms, other than mexican. let's say they're from el salvador. they're not going right back,

they're going to get a hearing. we can't send him over to the the border to mexico, that's not his home country. so we have to have a place to put him. it only makes sense. and all the -- not the proponents of immigration, if they're going to complain about giving more bed space, then what are we to do with them? you have to do something with them. we're not going to release them, that's it -- eric: the ark clu is -- aclu is going to be fighting this. the plan is to put detention centers in chicago, detroit, st. paul and salt lake, and the aclu says, no, no. you've got to either arrange to get them back in the community because it's really unfair to throw them and lock them up someplace, and you've got to reduce the detention system. so what do you say to that? >> sure. the aclu will say that. what i say to that is let's say, eric, there's a hundred illegal aliens, okay? and two of them, just two of the

hundred are violent criminal aliens who commit murder. like the remembrance project victims that campaigned with president trump and told their stories of their family member. i guarantee you, eric, if an aclu lawyer's family member was one of those kill, they would have a whole different perspective. and that's only two of them. so how do we figure out which ones of the two, the ten, the twelve of the hundred are actually the ones that are going to murder, rape and kill people? look, we have enough of our own u.s.-born criminals that we have to deal with. we don't need to deal with -- it's a crime. tom hullman always says it. it's a crime from the beginning to cross the border illegally. that makes you a criminal. we're a nation of laws, eric. we have to abide by them. therefore, we need more beds because we have to have a place to put them. we're not going to put 'em back out on the street like we did

before so they can cry all they want, they can file lawsuits all they want and our lawyers from doj will fight with them, and ultimately we're going to win because this is the united states of america. look, i'm sympathetic. i've locked up thousands and thousands of them. all right? some of them just came here to find a better life. well, there's a legal way to come here. so i don't -- i have to do my job. i took an oath to uphold the constitution of the united states. okay? and the laws that go with it. that's one of the laws. eric: and perhaps kate steinle, whose accused killer on trial right now, perhaps if this had been done, ms. steinle would still be alive and with us today. tommy coburn, we're out of time. thank you, we'll get back to you as this case and the aclu unfolds. thank you. >> thank you, eric. arthel: to sports now. the dodgers stunning the astros with a dramatic comeback to win world series game four. with the fall classic all tied

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arthel: the dodgers staged a dramatic comeback to win game four of the world series. los angeles rallied in the ninth inning scoring five runs to beat

the astros and tie the series at two games apiece. houston looking for a crucial win at home tonight before the series heads back to l.a. garrett max is live at minute maid park with a preview. hey, jarrett. >> reporter: good afternoon, arthel. what a helter-skelter world series it's been. one team, the dodgers, win the first game, and then the astros get two, and then the dodgers come through last night with this huge ninth inning. the astros lost a game at home. in the ninth inning the score was 1-1 until los angeles came to bat, and then they just went to work. they wound up plating five runs to win the game 6-2. joc pederson with a home run, cody bellinger getting going with a couple of doubles, and alex wood broke sandy koufax's dodger record for working the most innings without a hit. now it's a 2-2 series as we head to what is essentially a best of three. tonight the first pitch is going

to be coming up 8:20 eastern time on fox, of course. whoever wins tonight's game takes a 3-2 series lead. 65% of the games that win game five like this go on to win the world series. great matchup tonight, and then we're going to los angeles to see the next couple of games. and, you know, everybody wants to be a part of history. it's why you buy tickets to see a clinching game, why everybody takes photos of the first pitch of a game. last night's tickets were about twice the cost of what the get-in price is here tonight. $400 to get in, $925 for the next game in l.a. and 1200 for a potential game seven. gorgeous day for baseball. arthel: yes, it is. gotta go, back in a moment. laugh -- [laughter] g setting updentist appointments and planning birthday parties, nobody does it better. she's also in a rock band. look at her shred. but when it comes to mortgages,

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>> most important to my viewers is insuring that america remains a country with its own voice, its own traditions, its own history. i've learned a lot from the fox audience over the years. they can cut i through the clutter, they can spot a phony a mile away. most people, when you push past all the left-right nonsense, will come at issues from a pragmatic stance. and that's what i'm going to do. don't miss the ingram angle premiering october 30th on the fox news channel. eric: it is the traditional day of the dead festival to remember friends and family who have died in mexico. this year's parade was dedicated to the memory of the more than

228 people who have been killed during the two strong earthquakes last month 12 days apart. that does it for us for now, but we're back -- arthel: in one hour. eric: see you at 6 p.m. eastern. >> michael finn? greg: clearly it's not getting any better. [laughter] [applause] it's a helpless green from the losing team. think of an upcoming nationwide screech -fest to mark the anniversary of the 2016 election when donald trump shall ask hillary like an arts and crafts clay action figure. remember those? thousands of losers