tv Happening Now FOX News October 31, 2017 8:00am-9:00am PDT
8:00 am
>> new york is nuts for halloween, by the way. we have this parade and a million people go. any time you let crazy folks in manhattan dress up with a mask, trouble. bye now. >> jon: on this halloween new reaction to the first moves by the special counsel with the white house members of congress and key players all weighing in on the indictments and a guilty plea in the russia investigation thrown in as well. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> melissa: i'm melissa francis. the white house making it clear former trump campaign chair paul manafort and rick gates weren't charge with wrongdoing with regard to the trump campaign as the president blasts aide george papadopoulos who pled guilty and cooperating with prosecutors. trump tweeting he was a low
8:01 am
level volunteer and proven liar and also implications for democrats. >> i think the what the democrats will experience with the republicans. investigations are like saturn. they devour their own. you will see an expansion bringing in other people. >> melissa: chief washington correspondent james rosin is live with the story. changing every minute. >> fast moving indeed. good morning, melissa and jon. a key assertion of the special counsel's office and the low level trump campaign advisor george papadopoulos is coming under challenge today. it was his meetings with a foreign professor who claimed access to well-connect russians that -- documents attached to papadopoulos's guilty plea said the professor told defendant papadopoulos as defendant papadopoulos later described to the f.b.i. that they, meaning the russians, have dirt on her, meaning hillary clinton.
8:02 am
russians had emails of clinton, thousands of emails. today the telegraph newspaper in london has identified the professor as a teaching fellow at sterling university in scotland since may whose resume appears sketchly defined. he met with papadopoulos but the professor told the telegraph he was upset by the claims about being privy to dirt on hillary clinton because they were incredible. he also described as a laughingstock a suggestion in the report that he had introduced papadopoulos to a female russian national described as a relative of president vladimir putin. >> it's possible that more information will come out that shows at some point someone in the campaign signed off on one of his schemes but what we've seen so far is him proposing ideas that were decisively rejected by people in authority within the campaign. >> meantime democratic lobbyist tony po*ed po ed announced he is leaving his powerhouse firm the podesta group. he is the brother of hillary
8:03 am
clinton's campaign chairman, john podesta and the podesta group was listed as company b in yesterday's indictment of paul manafort, the trump campaign chairman. >> there may be more to come on that as well and it bears washington the resignation could have been for health reasons for all we know but it is sudden and unexpected which makes you think it's something to watch. >> neither podesta has been charged with any wrongdoing. mr. manafort entered a not guilty plea yesterday. >> jon: so on capitol hill tech giants google, facebook and twitter set to testify how their platforms were used by russian groups during the 2016 election campaign. lawmakers are split along party lines as to what comes next. in light of the indictments for three ex trump campaign advisors. >> mr. manafort has had continuing contact with the president since his resignation from the campaign. just as shocking was the
8:04 am
admission by the trump campaign advisor that he met with the kremlin contact to discuss so-called dirt on secretary clinton. >> i believe the investigations into the russia active measures involving the election are continuing a pace both in the judiciary committee by chairman grassley and the ranking member feinstein as well as the senate intelligence committee and i suggest -- i don't see how the indictment changes the president's ability to do his job. >> jon: mike emanuel is live to bring us up to date. >> the leaders of the senate bipartisan intelligence committee probe looking into russian meddling weighed in on the latest indictments a short time ago. they say they are work continues. >> i believe the determination up to the special counsel and to his staff that they need to pursue and we're on two
8:05 am
different lanes. i'm on the russian involvement in collusion and he is on criminal acts. >> jon: mark warner, the top democrat on the intelligence committee told us it's obvious we saw one more example the russians were raoefg out the trump officials trying to offer dirt and emails disparaging information about hillary clinton. it raises a host of additional questions. that sets the stage for this afternoon's hearing featuring major tech giants, facebook, twitter and google set to hear before a subcommittee of the panel. they will lay out the efforts they know by russian influences to influence the american people by phony accounts. top lawmakers want to combat and reduce the amount of russian propaganda and extremist content online. the senator chairing that hearing offered this preview. >> the social media outlets according to president trump was one of the reasons he won. so every politician should want
8:06 am
to make sure that social media outlets can be used in our democracy to communicate with our constituents. but one thing we don't want to have is those same outlets used by foreign governments to divide americans. >> we hear a lot not about looking back at 2016 but trying to protect future american elections and what can be done to shut down extremists online, jon. >> jon: mike emanuel from capitol hill. thanks. >> i think 401ks are important. we'll raise the amount that you can put in. the more that individuals can invest their own money, the better off in the long term. they have more capital. can protect themselves from the future and not looking to government. >> melissa: house majority leader kevin mccarthy says improving 401k retirement plans will be a hallmark of the tax plan unveiled tomorrow with republicans trying to reduce
8:07 am
the amount of pre-tax dollars workers can contribute to those accounts. fox business network is live with more. >> this is a big story because at stake is more than $5 trillion held by 54 million americans who contribute to our 401k plans. we're hours away from seeing the details of tax reform. critics want to ensure we have a way to pay for it. this is one possibility just one. changes to the 401k. you would pay tax on your contribution greater than $2400 now so uncle sam gets his money now and. a 30-year-old worker puts away $10,000 a year, sees an average annual return of 6%. they can retire with $790,000. but if they pay tax let's assume 25% rate on that same money up front, for 30 years they retire with about $590,000.
8:08 am
so much less. the mathis nt so simple. depends on your bracket and rate. the bigger picture is the bigger question. what motivates you to save? tax-free money, employer matches, right, both. they are still making the sausage in d.c. we don't have any specifics. this is what fidelity is saying ahead of that. we believe that barring other policy changes such a low cap would make it harder for american workers particularly those with lower and middle incomes, to save for retirement. enabling workers to contribute less might just worsen the retirement crisis. many families have zero savings and the median savings is $17,000 and obviously you need a lot more than that to get you through your golden years. >> melissa: no question. thank you for doing the math. important for people to understand what we're talking about here, lauren, thank you.
8:09 am
>> jon: what message is special counsel robert mueller sending with yesterday's unseating of a multi-count indictment and a separate guilty plea in the russia investigation? a one-two punch at play here. we'll talk about what it could mean. plus the hunt for a killer putting a college campus on lockdown. the latest on the search next. >> i would say if you want to stay safe, then please shelter in place.
8:12 am
8:13 am
red butte canyon near the school. her husband, austin butane is suspected in the deadly shooting. he is armed and dangerous. >> we have one victim deceased from a gunshot wound. a suspect we're trying to locate in the area. the suspect is a male adult in his mid 20s wearing dark clothing and a beanie at the time this occurred. the suspect does have tattoo on his face. >> melissa: the university of utah is asking anyone with information to call 801-585-2677 or call 911. >> jon: fox news alert. back to our top story, the fallout from yesterday's indictments and a guilty plea in the russia investigation with the president's chief of staff john kelly weighing in on the latest developments. >> all of the activities as i understand it that they were indicted for was long before they ever met donald trump or
8:14 am
had any association with the campaign. but i think the reaction of the administration is let the legal justice system work. everyone is innocent -- presumed innocent. we'll see where it goes. >> being chief of staff as you are, is this a difficult moment for the staff, is staff worried when indictments start being handed down this is the first, second, third shoe to drop and many more to follow? >> i think the staff is comfortable. the vast majority of the staff would have nothing to do with any of this kind of thing. >> jon: joining us now is the chairman of gopac and also the policy director to charles schumer and senior vice president for policy and cow founder of third way. you heard the chief of staff saying it happened a long time ago before these people met the current president. the white house is clearly taking some comfort in that. should they? >> i think general kelly is
8:15 am
putting a good face on this. the word i would use to describe mueller's indictments yesterday is muscular. he got two big birds, brought them down. manafort and gates and he got a canary to sing. there is not any good news in here for the trump administration. i understand from reports that there is a lot of panic in the white house. general kelly is the right guy to try to manage this. this is bad news, bad news and bad news. >> jon: david, do you see it differently? >> get through all the talk and what we learned yesterday. justice will be pursued and served against anyone who committed a crime. and that includes what we found out from yesterday's indictment that tony podesta could be a person now of interest that will be discussed or looked at on what he did. and certainly for some people it is going the raise lots of questions that he immediately resigned on the day that his name is in an indictment and
8:16 am
his firm says we're going to change our name. it does raise a lot of questions. >> jon: it does seem there are democrats being ensnared in this thing, jim, as much as republicans. >> so i think as americans we should be very glad that podesta's name is there. it shows that this is a probe that is going to be bipartisan and nonpartisan, focusing on the law and if there is some shrapnel from the bomb that hits a democratic lobbyist, so be it. the probe needs to continue and be exhausted and get down to the bottom of what could be very, very, very serious crimes against this country related to the 2016 campaign. >> jon: you've heard, david, the assertion that it is russian interference that cost hillary clinton the election. >> it's laughable hearing the democrats new talking points on
8:17 am
all this. this all started out, let's remember, the democrats were convinced and screamed that russia somehow cost hillary clinton the election. yet they've never proved evidence of it. are they saying the trump campaign gave the russians facebook's phone number or email on how to buy ads or something? they've never been able to prove a direct connect that somehow the russians cost hillary clinton the election when the reality is most voters had already decided she was corrupt and a terrible candidate. >> jon: jim, is it your feeling that when robert mueller gets to the bottom of this investigation that he is somehow going to find that magic bullet that david was just talking about, some connection between the russians and the campaign that did affect the actual outcome that cost hillary clinton the election? >> this is what we know beyond a shadow of a doubt. the russians had a very, very
8:18 am
aggressive campaign to meddle in this election. we also know now with papadopoulos there were at least some contacts between the campaign and russian operatives. we don't know yet if there was collusion or not collusion. russians tried to influence this campaign. my personal opinion is they did have an effect on the outcome. i don't think the mueller probe will ever determine that. everyone is going to have their own opinion. we know the russians tried to do this and -- >> that's what this investigation is about. the democrats wanted to find out the -- >> jon: one at a time. david. >> the democrats were convinced that somehow the trump campaign had worked with the russians to cost hillary clinton the election. go back and look at every talking point that every democrat put out after the election. they were convinced it was the russians working with the trump campaign that cost hillary clinton the election. and to date there is not
8:19 am
evidence that that occurred. so now it's all nuanced by the democrats as to what exactly happened. >> jon: there isn't anything in the manafort and gates indictments that suggest that. >> papadopoulos there is. he is pled guilty. wearing a wire and singing for three months. seems like there are three people who believe the russians didn't try to influence this election, donald trump, vladimir putin and david avella. >> wait a second. >> whether it had an effect on the outcome we don't know and never know. did the russians try to reach into this campaign? this investigation was not whether it determined the outcome of this election. it is about criminal wrongdoing. not whether it affected votes in wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan. let's be serious here. >> jon: we'll take a look at the legal implications of all of this a little bit later on. we'll have to leave it there.
8:20 am
jim and david, thank you both. >> melissa: the white house chief of staff general john kelly weighing in on the controversy over civil war era monuments on laura ingraham's show last night. plus the pentagon has sent hundreds of u.s. troops to the west african nation of niger, how far does the authority to wage war go? does that mandate need to be updated? >> war is unpredictable. we can't put a firm timeline on conflict against an adaptive enemy who would hope we haven't the will to fight as long as necessary. millions of you are online right now, searching one topic.
8:21 am
that will generate over 600 million results. and if you've been diagnosed with cancer, searching for answers like where to treat, can feel even more overwhelming. so start your search with a specialist at cancer treatment centers of america. start with teams of cancer treatment experts under one roof. start where specialists use advanced genomic testing to guide precision cancer treatment... ...that may lead to targeted therapies and more treatment options. start where there's a commitment to analyzing the latest research and conducting clinical trials-to help each patient get the personalized cancer care they deserve. start at one of the cancer treatment centers of america hospitals near you. the evolution of cancer care is here. learn more at cancercenter.com/experts appointments available now.
8:24 am
lawmakers confessed to having no idea the u.s. even had troops in that west african nation leading to new concerns that the pentagon is relying on an outdated authorization for use of military force or aumf passed after the terror attacks of september 11th, 2001. secretary of state rex tillerson says this authority is needed so u.s. troops can respond rapidly and effectivelyly to any terrorist threats. >> we have the authority to prosecute campaigns against associated forces including isis. and is not currently seeking any new or additional congressional authorization for the use of force. >> jon: critics calling for a new aumf. they say congress should hold hearings to learn where our troops are being sent and why. >> melissa: fox news alert. the big reveal coming tomorrow as republicans unveil their tax
8:25 am
overhaul plan. president trump trying to focus on one of the signature campaign issues. he tweeted i hope people are start to focus on our massive tax cuts for business, jobs and the middle class. in addition to democrat corruption. let's bring in our panel. jeff mason, white house correspondent at sarah westwood another white house correspondent. thank you for joining us. jeff, what do you think about the roll-out tomorrow? what do you anticipate and does it get as much attention >> it will get a lot of attention. the russia probe is taking up oxygen but tax reform is the top priority domestically in terms of policy for this white house. you see people around the country interested in it. we saw the markets reacted on a report that the corporate tax rate cut might be phased in instead of being brought in all at once. so people are paying attention to tax reform even if the russia probe is taking up a lot of space on the airwaves and
8:26 am
taking up a lot of thoughts and communication by lawmakers. >> melissa: a lot of people in america whose eyes glaze over when they start to hear about the russia thing. they're focused on their pocketbook, savings and children's future and care about the tax story. do you feel that to be true and sense that when you're out there? >> absolutely. people vote with their wallets. tax reform was going to be its own uphill battle before we heard about these indictments coming from the mueller probe. if anything i actually think that the developments in mueller's investigation could increase the urgency for republicans to pass tax reform because at the end of the day most republican lawmakers care about themselves and their next reelection race. some of them might see the passage of tax cuts to insulate themselves from whatever controversies might behalf president trump between now and mid-term elections. mueller's probe doesn't change the math problems they were
8:27 am
facing. >> melissa: good point. jeff, i hate to jinx it. it sounds like there is more discussion and more agreement and more interest in this than certainly we saw on healthcare or any of the other legislation that has been talked about. >> healthcare is something that the republicans promised to repeal and replace for years. weren't able to get it across the finish line. tax reform is another issue they've worked on and talked about for years and there seems to be more unity within the republican party about that. that said, holding onto that unity and making sure the republicans stay on the same track going up to a vote will be one of the main challenges of this white house and paul ryan and the others and congress will face. >> melissa: the white house chief of staff john kelly and laura ingraham addressed the controversy over confederate statues and monuments general kelly saying we can't go back and rewrite history. >> history is history and certain things in history that
8:28 am
were not so good and other things that were very, very good. i think we make a mistake, though, as a society and certainly as individuals when we take what is today accepted as right and wrong and go back 100 and 200 and 300 years or more and say what christopher columbus did was wrong. >> melissa: somebody stopped me on the street and said it's a luxury to be worried about statues. i'm worried about my mortgage and family's finances. that was one person. do you think a lot of people in america are focused on this issue? >> most people are not focused on this issue and part of the reason why even though the culture wars have been something of a double edged sword for president trump the white house seems to find victories when they go and do battle for where the side of the culture where the popular opinion is. we saw president trump notch a major victory in the eyes of most people when he took on the
8:29 am
nfl and the commissioner was forced to come out and give what most people thought was a conciliatory press conference trying to tamp down on these protests during the national anthem. president trump has come down on the side of popular opinion when it comes to preserving historical statues and when we're talking about that, we aren't talking about russia, we're not talking about the failure of healthcare or other problems. it's been a successful strategy for the white house to bring this up. >> melissa: i imagine you disagree with that, jeff. >> i don't know why you mentioned i disagree with it. there are people in the country who would. i think there are many other people in the country who have different views of those confederate statues who have different views of what happened after charlottesville and what to do with the monuments from the civil war. there are a lot of issues that people are thinking about from tax reform to other policy issues that we talk about here in washington those social issues matter to
8:30 am
americans and i think it's probably not correct to say they don't resonate. >> melissa: they definitely matter to a lot of people. it's interesting maybe it's the ranking of what is most important right now and it's different for everyone. >> jon: mark your calendars, open enrollment begins tomorrow for obamacare. some people could be paying much more for health insurance. a change by president trump that could mean others might wind up getting their insurance for free. a look at what to expect coming up. is special counsel robert mueller sending a message with the first indictments and how concerned should the white house be? our legal panel is next. >> president donald trump was correct, there is no evidence that mr. manafort or the trump campaign colluded with the russian government. freedom. one nation in all of human history was built on that bedrock, ours.
8:31 am
freedom has made america exceptional, but it can only last if you and i choose to act as people of character. forging character has been the pursuit of hillsdale college since 1844. ♪ ♪ look how beautiful it is... honey, we need to talk. we do? i took the trash out. i know - and thank you so much for that. i think we should get a medicare supplement insurance plan. right now? whether you're new to medicare or not, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. it's up to you to pay the difference. so think about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay.
8:32 am
i did a little research. with a medicare supplement plan, you'll be able to stay with your doctor... oh you know i love that guy. mmmmhmmm. these types of plans let you choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. and, there are no networks. is this a one-size fits all kind of thing? no. there are lots of plan options. it all depends on what we need. and how much we want to spend. call now to request your free [decision guide]. it could help you find an aarp medicare supplement plan that's right for you. what happens when we travel? the plans go with us. anywhere in the country. i like that. you know what else? unitedhealthcare insurance company has years and years of experience. what do you say? i'm in. join the millions already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance... plans endorsed by aarp. remember, all medicare supplement plans help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could really save you in out-of-pocket medical costs.
8:33 am
you'll be able to choose your own doctor or hospital as long as they accept medicare patients. and with these plans, there could be low or no copays. you do your push-ups today? prepare to be amazed. don't wait. call today to request your free [decision guide], and find the aarp medicare supplement plan to go the distance with you. go long.
8:34 am
>> melissa: open enrollment for obamacare insurance begins tomorrow and consumers may see greater challenges this year. the amount of time to sign up for coverage was cut in half and according to a new report, many enrollees will likely see higher premiums. jerry willis is live from our new york bureau with more. tell us some of the details. >> when the aca healthcare exchanges open wednesday there is an unpleasant surprise for folks who don't qualify tore
8:35 am
help from the federal government. higher premiums. in some cases hikes of more than 30%. now those numbers are rising for middle class people even as people who are less well off and eligible for premiums will see reductions. that's because the value of federal subsidies rises as premiums for exchanges consumer plans rises. insurers raised the premiums after the trump administration said it would stop making cost sharing reduction payments set to total $7 billion directly to insurers. one implications of the move to stop paying csrs, it will pay more in consumer subsidies. premiums for one of the most popular middle class-priced plans on the exchange will increase by 37% for a 27-year-old consumer in states where the government runs the exchanges. report also reveals that declining number of insurance participants down to 132 for
8:36 am
2018 from 167 this year. open enrollment continues through december 15th and instead of running three months just six weeks. >> melissa: the cost sharing payments are your tax dollars going to insurance companies who made more than $10 billion in profits in the first half of the year. i like that cost sharing payments, tax dollars. thank you. >> you got that right. >> jon: president trump's personal attorney sounding off on the first indictments by special counsel robert mueller and the guilty plea by campaign advisor george papadopoulos saying it adds up to nothing special. listen. >> just had all this conversation about collusion. remember this, collusion in and of itself, no crime of collusion. what is a violation of law here? i go back to that. for george papadopoulos the violation of the law was that he lied to f.b.i. agents not condoned by the administration.
8:37 am
>> jon: zimmerman is a contributor to the national law journal. and we have a law professor at the university of memphis and former federal prosecutor. thank you for being here. i want to start with you, steven. there was an unusual one-two nature of what was unsealed yesterday by robert mueller's team. first there are the charges against gates and manafort who clearly worked for the campaign. and they have nothing to do with the campaign. then comes the unsealing of the revelation that a campaign volunteer had pleaded guilty to lying to the f.b.i. and people say mueller is really smart here because what he did shows that this does tie the campaign to russia activity. but is that what the special counsel is supposed to be doing? give us your assessment on that. >> right. well, clearly the papadopoulos plea i think is the more
8:38 am
significant of the two if we talk about collusion itself. there are some statements in the guilty plea in which papadopoulos says he was in the act of contact with russian people expecting to get dirt on hillary clinton, hacked emails. this is his claim anyway. that speaks to collusion. there is no proof that president trump actually knew anything about that personally but at least it's in that ballpark. the indictments for manafort and gates don't speak to collusion at all but mueller is playing the long game. if he can have leverage over manafort and gates because of all legal violations, tax evasion, failure to report, the fact that they were lobiss and lying to federal investigators he can use the leverage to talk about collusion. we're seeing the first opening salvos in a much longer process. >> jon: there are some legal observers i talked to who said
8:39 am
nothing that what manafort and gates have been charged with has anything to do with what robert mueller was charged with in his investigation? >> that may be factually accurate but the way that federal investigations usually work is that they look to squeeze lower level people on violations that may be unrelated in order to get them to cooperate with the government and prosecute people higher up on the ladder. so it's not so relevant whether or not what they are charged with is related to collusion. what's relevant as has been noted is whether they'll be pressured into cooperating with the government. as they already have papadopoulos cooperating. he pled guilty october 5th. it sends a message to others, including manafort and gates, including others who haven't yet been charged that if you cooperate with the government you can get off easy and avoid a long jail term. if you don't you could be in trouble. and that probably has many people in trump's orbit
8:40 am
thinking about whether or not they should cooperate to avoid jail time. >> jon: a lot of observers have looked at what is revealed in the guilty plea against papadopoulos and said look, having a conversation even with a russian professor about digging up dirt on hillary clinton, that is not illegal. what was illegal about what he did is lying to the f.b.i. about it apparently. >> right. there is an old expression we got al capone on taxes. that's at work here as well. they'll go after manafort and gates on things that are clearly provable like the failure to register as foreign lobbyists and work from there. both papadopoulos and manafort and gates are alleged to have lied to federal authorities about the investigation and that's a whole separate crime.
8:41 am
it carries its own penalties. even though these things may not be smoking gun evidence of actual collusion they're the kind of thing that could lead to such evidence later on just like in any other investigation of organized crime or drug conspiracy or anything like that. it just moves the ball down the field to eventually getting perhaps some more information that directly ties somebody higher up in the campaign to collusion. >> there is no legal crime with collusion. but it's the kind of thing that congress might consider an impreachable offense down the road depending what we find out. if you look at the very prosecutors on mueller's team, they dozens of times have used this exact same strategy in prosecuting everything from the mafia and organized crime to taking down ed ron. they work their way up and use
8:42 am
people to cooperate as leverage. that's very likely what we'll see here. federal prosecutors win 94% of the time. they generally don't bring cases they can't win and that should be of concern, too. >> jon: all right. other shoes left to drop in this investigation. so far the white house is professing that it is not worried. ken zimmerman and stephen mill roy, thank you. >> melissa: a key moderate republican senator says she wants to support tax reform and she is laying out what she needs in the package to vote yes.
8:45 am
8:46 am
can come together on a plan and meet a tight deadline. >> we're on a good track to come up with a tax bill and there has been a lot of work done already in both the house and the senate. and i think you'll see a tax bill passed and i hope it will be a bipartisan one by the end of the year. >> melissa: let's bring our panel. former deputy campaign manager for o'malley and former campaign manager from the reagan/bush ticket. if we follow colin's advice and the top rate isn't lord and the other changes, a lot of people's taxes will be going up in the top range. is that heresy? >> there are many pages of tax documents. once a bill gets out everybody has a vested interest in it. the key thing is how to get the
8:47 am
business tax down to a point to stimulate the economy and make sure if people have their taxes altered it is not so dramatic that you turn people off. we have thin margins. mrs. collins is an important vote when you have a four-vote margin in the senate. any two defections and you're in trouble. we have 22 in the house. it is hard sledding the rest of the way. i don't think there is any bipartisan support on this. >> melissa: the president says he talks to a lot of rich people who say they don't mind paying more. i don't know who those people are if they're deranged. warren buffett is one of the only people i heard say that. he can mail in a check for more money if he wants to do that. do you think it would be the right move for republicans? >> i did hear on this network, melissa, a very staunch republican saying he does not need a tax cut. i'm going to do something rare here. i will praise a republican. i'll praise susan collins for
8:48 am
doing something smart. she is going out there saying we need to focus on middle class tax cuts. the most wealthy americans don't need tax cuts and we don't need to get rid of the estate tax. the majority of americans if you look at polling do not want tax cuts for the rich and they believe the currently donald trump's tax plan would overwhelmingly benefit the rich. >> melissa: well, that's interesting because the math doesn't support that. it depends on how you slice everything. ed, chuck schumer saying that this idea that pro growth tax cuts will pay for themselves. dynamic accounting as we call it as opposed to static accounting where you try to calculate what the growth in the economy would be. he says that's a bunch of bull. something tasteful like that. self-serving bull. that's an argument that democrats have used for a long time.
8:49 am
at the same time this pay for it math that politicians have made up does really hamper them. hang on. let ed respond and we'll come to you. >> the last time we had successful tax was when i was in the white house in the reagan days and we had bipartisan support and stimulated the economy and lord taxes for most americans and certainly stimulated the economy. at this point in time it's nice that -- the reality is what do you consider rich? someone making $100 to 150,000 rich? in parts of the country they are. how do you get small businesses that create oh jobs, how do you get an environment to where they are benefiting and moving the ball forward? >> melissa: the republicans' answer to that is lower the tax-through break.
8:50 am
>> i'm not using a democratic talking point but one that is embraced by people across the spectrum. a fact. let me go back to another thing here is that it's smart from a legislative perspective. we know two republican senators have said they will not vote for repeal of the estate tax. bob corker and susan collins. if you lose another one it's game over. you won't get any democrats to come over on this. if donald trump and the republicans want to win they should pursue what the american people want, a tax cut for middle class families and again i'll do something i don't always do, donald trump has done a lot more outreach to democrats on this than he did on healthcare and i think it's very smart and now he needs to put action behind that outreach. >> very happy if he brings democrats over and happy to sit down and talk to them. >> melissa: we have to go. happy halloween. we have to go. >> jon: the houston astros on
8:51 am
8:54 am
>> coming up the white house pushing back on the charges in the russia probe saying nothing has to do with the president or his campaign. should he be worried? could this hurt his agenda >> exhibit a tax reform. the gop unveiled a text of its tax bill. that happens tomorrow. so we're talking about it what will be in it. last-minute compromises, getting reluctant republicans on board. what does that look like as democrats slam the plan as a middle class con job.
8:55 am
is bipartisanship out the window? >> jon: it is due or die time for the dodgers. they're trailing the houston astros three games to two. game six of the world series tonight in l.a. >> we're going to win, win, win. >> we'll bring the world series back to los angeles. >> jon: adam housley who knows a thing or two about baseball is live in los angeles for us. adam. >> a trick for the dodgers tonight or a treat for the astros. game six kicks off in over eight hours from now. first pitch. for the dodgers versus a astros. big pitchers are justin verlander and hill. they both pitched well a week ago. it goes against what happened in houston where it was all about the bats. you've seen the games over the weekend. amazing baseball games including the sunday night thriller. people were complaining about the balls, a couple of the pitchers were but when you play in a living room for a ballpark
8:56 am
there will be a lot of home runs hit and pitchers weren't making pitches. as for the game at dodger stadium tonight a big difference a week ago. one week ago on tuesday game one, 103. the cheapest ticket in the house was $800. now it's 68° expected high, rained this morning and the cheapest ticket is $400. back to the halloween comment at the top of this report. you can actually wear a costume tonight to dodger stadium. you can't wear a mask. for some people that might be an everyday thing to wear a costume in los angeles. they may come to the game in normal attire. a packed house tonight. the dodgers expect, of course, a full house throughout the evening. they open the gates early now at 3:00 and as you know, jon, people come and third and leave in the seventh they stayed for both games last week. we expect that tonight as well. >> jon: i like a seven-game
8:57 am
8:59 am
9:00 am
>> every night were going to hit the big issues of the day. and some surprising notes from all angles. heartland america, you have a champion. >> happy halloween, "outnumbered" starts now. >> a fox news alert, the white house firing back after president trump's for former campaign chair pleads not guilt guilty. the indictment on paul manafort and rick gates shows collusion with russia. this is "outnumbered," good morning everyone. with us today, harris faulkner, lisa boothe, trish reagan, today's #oneluckyguy, guy benson is here and he is outnumbered, good to have you.
152 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on