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city officials. >> international symbol of freedom and democracy. that's what we are. and we are proud of it. that also makes us a target for those people who oppose those concepts. >> laura: of course new york is susceptible to attack, duh. every city is susceptible to attack. those words mean nothing. we want action from elected officials to keep this country and cities like new york safe. and listening to this makes me think of the mass islamic resettlement in europe. we saw terror attacks in barcelona, paris, london, manchester, on and on. now, do you remember what we heard polish prime minister last summer after the truck attack in manchester, england? she said the following do we want politicians who claim

we have to get used to attacks or describe terror attacks as innocent? or dincidents or do we want strong politicians who who can see the danger and fight against it efficiently? back in august of 2016 in youngstown, ohio, candidate donald trump had this to say about radical islam. >> nor can we let the hateful ideology of radical islam, it's oppression of women, gays, children, and nonbelievers be allowed to reside or spread within our own countries. we must use ideological warfare as well, very important. and they use it on us, better than we have ever even thought of using it on them. but that will change. [applause] >> thank you. just as we won the cold war in part by exposing the evils of communism and virtues of free markets, so, too, must we take on the

ideology of radical islam. >> laura: after he was elected, president trump issued an executive order to temporarily halt travel from countries of concern and crack down on illegal immigration. for that, he was branded as cruel and heartless. you know what's cruel and heartless? bikers and pedestrians run over in broad daylight in a major american city. that's cruel and heartless. trump's instinct about what it takes to secure the homeland are correct. protect our borders, deport law breakers, build a wall, halt refugees from certain countries, given the severity of the threat. these are common sense solutions. so far here's what we know. the swine that took 8 lives today is radicalized uzbek. he got a green card through the diversity visa program according to my sources. do you know what donald

trump proposed in his immigration reform froirts congress a few weeks ago? the president expressly asked for the elimination of the diversity visa program, that grants 50,000 green cards annually at random through a lottery, it's a total scam. tonight, i'm also thinking of those activists lower court judges like those two obama appointees who just weeks ago ruled against the president's travel ban calling them anti-muslim. though uzbekistan was not on the list it should be. i would love to ask judge watson and theodore chuang is it now time to restrict who comes in our country. shouldn't we make sure all u.s. visa holders are not a threat to our citizens? throughout the campaign, president trump warned about the refugee flow in to the united states. which is why so many were shocked this month when he

agreed to permit 45,000 refugees in to the country. we're apparently doing extreme vetting on them. i asked general kelly exactly what that meant last night. how are we extreme vetting? what is extreme vetting? >> extreme vetting is we simply interview people and have to satisfy ourselves that the person we're talking to is, indeed, the person who they claim. >> laura: very tough to do in some cases. >> frankly impossible to could in some cases. >> laura: they won't come in. if you can't verify that they are not coming. >> in if we can't verify, i don't think we should let them into the country. >> laura: president trump was elected in part, in large part, because voters appreciated his no nonsense pragmatism on issues like homeland security and immigration. although we can't stop all terror attacks in the united states, the safety of the american people demand that we do what we can to stop those attacks that are

preventable. 9/11 should have made it obvious to everyone that islam has a hideous rehabilitatiohidradicalization . put the onus first foreign trip to put their houses in order. here at home we should not lose one more american life because politicians don't have the nerve or the will to do what's necessary to secure the homeland. our safety is their primary responsibility. and that's the angle. now joining us with reaction to today's terror attacks in new york city is ed davis, who was commissioner of the boston police department during the 2013 boston marathon attack. and jim hanson, president of the securities studies group here in washington. gentlemen, another dark day for the united states. this is -- it is so infuriating to me on so many levels. i know there is a lot of sadness, but i'm trying to turn sadness into righteous

indignation toward action. what are your initial thoughts on this, given what we know so far? >> you know, if this guy actually came in on a diversity visa, i don't think that qualifies jihaddism as something we want diversely entering this country. i think we need to start with what's called extreme vetting. president trump immediately after this said he is going to ramp up the extreme vetting even more now than what you talked to general kelly about last night. i think that's necessary. i mean, if you want to talk about a model country for the travel ban, uzbekistan has a massive jihaddist problem. their islamic movement of uzbekistan pledged loyalty to isis in 2015. why are we letting people in from there if we can't tell who they are? that's a good place to start. >> laura: ed, let's go to you. you led boston during that extremely difficult period, the tsarnaev brothers carried out their carnage at the boston marathon. now, they hailed from close

in beings prin proximity region chechnya. uzbekistan was not on the president's travel ban list. i wonder why. they do have a real problem there, as jim said, and, yet, it wasn't on the list. what are your thoughts initially? >> well, when the fbi reported back to us that the two brothers or the older brother had visited possibly been radicalized areas, they also said that dagestan was not on radar screen as far as radical islam and uzbekistan is even more moderate than that area. the problem here is that this is popping up all over the world. it's extremely important that we pay attention to where it's happening and we put logical steps in place to protect ourselves. just on the streets of boston last year, after the

marathon attack, there was a terrorist that was shot and killed by boston police and fbi agents. as he was going to execute a boston police officer. and if you look at the aclu website in boston, they are boasting about the fact that they stopped the boston police from looking at open source material on twitter and facebook for people that were being -- that was were using radical terms. if this guy is in the united states, and he's been radicalized, looking at his facebook postings, these are public postings. these aren't private email communications. these are things that they are saying publicly. >> laura: ed, why are we getting any of these people into the country? people say that's heartless. that's cruel. look at the bloodstains on the sidewalks in new york. i mean, this idea that the united states has an obligation to bring in hundreds of thousands of people from hot spots where we can't possibly do extreme vetting because as i said to

general kelly, there are no records that can be easily checked or followed or addresses checked up on. are we going to do jim, an fbi background check on some of these characters from turkmenistan or uzbekistan or all the stanes? i mean, this is insanity. >> there is no positive right to enter the united states for any reason at all. it is up to us to decide who comes in the country. president trump has the right both constitutionally and under existing law to decide for any reason he can stop immigration from anywhere. so, right now, i think there is a legitimate reason to take a look at all of the visa programs, all of the refugee programs. >> laura: the diversity visa program. >> gone. >> laura: has got to end. ed, i want to go back to you on this. the idea this is something we just have to get used to as the polish prime minister was reacting to comments made in britain at the time, this is the new normal from the mayor of london. this is another unfortunate

incident but we're just going to go back to, you know, our regular lives. well, yeah, of course we are going to go back to our regular lives. that's what we do. but, if we can stop these attacks by stopping the people from coming in to the country dry in the first place, why are we playing this politically correct game that ends up with the deaths of americans. to me, it's just insanity and lunancy, uzbekistan? why are we letting people in from uzbekistan ever? i will let you finish it off, ed. >> you know, laura, i'm informed by this issue by talking to the relatives of the people who were killed in these attacks by talking to the victims that lost limbs in the marathon attack. and i think that this is similar to what was happening in london leading up to world war ii, winston churchill was trying to tell people what the danger was. and we're living in the same

kind of reality right now. people don't realize it until they have lost a loved one or talked to somebody who has lost someone or lost a limb in a situation like this. and until that happens, i don't think we're ever going to be able to effectively prevent these things. >> laura: let's be really clear what's going on here. they want to portray trump as the problem. trump is cruel, heartless, all the things that they say. he's the problem. and meanwhile people are gaming our immigration system. getting federal benefits. welfare, all that obamacare. they come in and then we get dead people. i'm sorry, no. trump's the problem? >> trump's right. >> laura: this is why he was elected. people are tired of this in this country. the victims, and i'm so glad, ed, you have the ear of the victims. and you have their hearts, too. we should listen to the people that have been brutalized by illegal immigration. by this gaming of our immigration system. by the asylum program that the tsarnaev brother abused and all these other issues. i'm just so upset about this

tonight and, gentlemen, both of you, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, laura. >> laura: up next, the debate over radical islamic threat. we will go live to the ground for breaking news on today's new york city terror attack coming up. ♪ ♪ >> i believe when an individual yells out allahu akbar all of the indicators and hallmarks of an act of terror. i think that's true in this case. we know for two years they have called out their internet magazine to attack by vehicle. ♪ ♪ ♪ i did what you said, doc... ...changed everything. you switched to the capital one quicksilver card. and how do you feel? [sighs] like a burden's been lifted. those other cards made you sign up for bonus cash back. then they change categories on you every few months. then you had to keep signing up! you...deserve...better. now get out there and keep earning that 1.5% cash back on every purchase everywhere.

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>> laura: welcome back to our continuing coverage of today's terror attack in lower manhattan where a suspect deliberately drove his truck down a bike path, killing 8 and wounding 11. joining us now with the latest from the scene is fox news shepard smith. shep. >> shepard: lawyer new tonight and new this hour fox news has confirmed earlier reports that police found in and around the vehicle, which the suspect had driven, that rented home depot truck, notes written in arabic pledging allegiance to isis. i'm told one note in the vehicle and another appears to hav flenut in a black leather bag that fell

out as he exited the vehicle after it crashed into a school bus. fox news has also learned out of that bag fell a hunting knife in a black leather sheath with a belt clip attached to it a knife he apparently not use as he was flailing his arms in the streets of lower manhattan waiving two fake guns shouting allahu akbar as police from the sixth precinct put it lit him up. the police here on scene earlier told me they believe they had shot him in the stomach. fox news has now confirmed he was actually shot in the leg. no major arteries hit. he is expected to survive. the surgery is over. we believe. though we haven't been able to confirm that he will be held at least through the night. and authorities do expect to have him available for questioning at some point. he arrived in the united states, we have now learned in 2010 from uzbekistan and as you mentioned earlier on that green card visa through the lottery program which you mentioned. he's lived in tampa, florida

for a time and in nearby new jersey, across the river. we believe patterson, new jersey where right now new jersey.com reports police have an area of garden aparliaments attached to a mosque surrounded. in addition in nearby passaic new jersey about 15 miles from the seen here in lower manhattan, they have surrounded a vehicle at a home depot. it is believed he drove that vehicle to that home depot store in patterson, new jersey at about 2:00 this afternoon, though we can't confirm the time to rent that truck. then drove it into manhattan. we don't know which way yet, and began that one mile trek of terror along the west side highway. started around houseton street on the northern end of the solo neighborhood. finished in the shadow of world trade center after about a mile, running into many people, mowing over pedestrians and bicyclists, especially, mangelled bikes seen along that guarded bike path there. in the end, 8 people dead.

somewhere around 12 injured. taken to two different hospitals. we expect updates on their condition in the morning. among those injured, four people from nearby stuyvesant high school which was letting out for classes for the day this afternoon. two of those are staff members, i'm told. two of them said to be students. one of those students critical at a trauma center at bellevue hospital in lower manhattan. investigators still working to find out if he acted in coordination with anyone else. and according to our sources and those of our intelligence correspondent catherine herridge, there is no indication yet that he was radicalized by any group overseas, whether he was radicalized online in some other way we don't yet know. as for accomplices, no indication, laura, not yet hour. >> laura: shep, thanks. attackers' background and how he got into this country is raising questions about the role radical islam played in the attack and also weather a visa program needs a major overhaul. here to discuss from boston

robert spencer, director of the website jihad watch and from portland, oregon, author of the book demystifying islam, tackling the tough questions. gentlemen, it's good to see both of you on a very difficult night. harris, let's start with you. this man apparently had some allegiance to isis. notes found at the scene. cried out allahu akbar. truck attack after truck attack in europe. now coming to the united states. innocence slain. how does the average person watching this show tonight, not think, given the pattern of behavior, that islam does not have a major problem with radicalization? >> well, i would be remiss, laura, if i don't begin first and foremost by exprey egg the deepest condolences of today's attack and also discussing deep gratitude of bravery of law enforcement officers who saved some lives today. and since we are muslims who believe in that messiah and

god who came to revive the original teachings of islam, we not only run reservedly condemn these attacks and stand by innocent civilians who we want to protect as well, burr we also understand that there is, indeed, a problem amongst certain groups around the world who are being radicalized. and the international leader, the ahmadiyya muslim community has indeed said the west should not let people pour in from all over the country should be vigilant about who is allowed in because isis sympathizers and fanatics like them might sneak into the country under the guise of refugees. the safety and security of this country is paramount. what we say is to have a nuanced approach and instead of banning wholesale people from certain countries which uzbekistan was not even on that list and the most troublesome saudi arabia is not on that list either. >> laura: yeah. >> instead of that have a

nuanced approach get to the root which is their ideology and their funding. >> laura: i think you are right there is an ideological issue here. is that a lot of room for nuances when we're talking about innocent lives. you probably wouldn't want this guy moving into your neighborhood. and the muslims are continued heretic. you are considered heretic by other muslim sects. they take issue with your interpretation, correct, of islam, which i know is an ongoing long standing debate within islam. but robert, let's go to you. >> yeah, certainly you are right. i'm glad you asked that question. absolutely. we are on the side. >> the muslim community is less than 2%. [talking at the same time] >> laura: okay. one at a time, guys. guys. robert, let me go to you. harris, you will get in a minute. hold on, guys. >> the community is less than 2%. >> laura: it is. it's a small percentage.

>> hair tech's persecuted in pakistan and indonesia. >> laura: right. they are persecuted we have a raddization problem here. how do we in good conscious put another american life in jeopardy with this insane program of allowing people into the country whose backgrounds, frankly, we cannot check because now we can get radicalized on the internet u.s. american citizens can as well. we already have that problem. we don't need more problems. that's my view. robert? >> you are absolutely right. these programs should are been ended a long time ago. they need to be ended immediately. the fact is we have a hard choice. there is no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful refugees and people like this new york city murderer who are jihadis. there is just simply no way to tell. and so we either have to let in some harmful people or keep out some harmless people. all these years we have been told we are racist and

bigoted islam phobes if we. to keep out the harmful people because that will mean keeping out. so harmless people. well, unfortunately we have to make hard choices here. and this is it. and the fact is that there is jihad recruitment going on in mosques. this guy has been in the country seven years. he certainly went to mosques. so, along with ending these programs, there has to be a challenge to the muslim community to start teaching against these ideas of jihad, his mosque needs to be investigated and needs to be shut down if it's preaching jihad terror. >> laura: harris, do you believe that mosques should be surveilled given this radicalization problem? i know your sect does not have this issue, doesn't have this problem but others do and it hurts all of islam to have this poison from within. it hurts the whole faith, obviously. it's terrible. >> yeah. we are in a unique position the only muslim community that's in 210 countries around the world with one single leader and that leader has been very clear. his holiness that he has no problem with the government

officials surveying our mosque because we have nothing to hide. ultimately now the solution that he has offered forward is to root out their -- the root of the problem which is both the ideology and the funding. traces of the funding of isis seem to go to saudi arabia. yet, we never even talk about banning saudi arabias from entering the country. >> laura: we have a problem in saudi arabia. they would allies. we have a real problem there the 9/11 hijackers. i appreciate it, gentlemen. we are out of time. we have a lot of problems. we just don't need any more coming into the country. gentlemen, both of you, we really appreciate it tonight. after today's attack in lower manhattan, there's lesson to be learned from comments john kelly made to me last night. we're going to explain coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey hun, huh! we gotta go. come on. ♪

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deliberately dve rental truck down a crowded bike path in an act of pure terrorism. future historians will no doubt write about islamic terrorism as a major issue of our time. i hope we will leave lessons on how to defeat jihad for the future. but, maybe we won't, considering how history has been treated recently in america last night when i sat down with white house chief of staff john kelly, we discussed the recent efforts primarily from the left to tear down and wipe away monuments and relics of some of the most important leaders in american history. here's what general kelly had to say. >> i think it's just very, very dangerous. it shows you what -- how much of a lack of appreciation of history and what history is. i will tell you that robert e. lee was an honorable man. he was a man that gave up his country to fight for his state which in 150 years ago was more important than

country. it walls always loyalty to state first back in those days know it's different today. but the lack of an ability to compromise led to the civil war. and men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand. >> laura: of course, the very suggestion that our history be appreciated, warts and all led to what has become common media practice in these times, mass hysteria. >> this was not a close call. america mattered then and it matters now. history is not history when it comes to the civil war. these monuments were put up during reconstruction. >> jim crow. >> to stick it to free black people and to let them know there would be a new jim crow. >> the language kelly used is straight out of mid 20th century texas books. it's the myth of the lost cause. confederacy is noble leaders like robert e. lee,

motivated notverlavery but over love of state first. >> laura: if mr. ggory and mr. avalon cared to do the smallest bit of research they would discover that renowned war historian shelby foot and that rabid alt writer expressed kelly's sentiment. joining us for reaction presidential historian and ronald reagan biographer citizen newt. and jane cook nine presidents in american history. great to see both of you. jane, let's start with you. he got hammered, kelly, for the comments he made yesterday about robert he lee. >> he did. i was reading the criticism. i thought this is really exaggerated. maybe general kelly's thoughts were incomplete. he could have mentioned slavery and explained more about that. >> laura: is there something we don't know about it at this point? >> he is not a historian. he has such a mellow calm tone to him. listening to him talk i

didn't get the sense that he was being disrespectful or out of sync with history. >> laura: craig, john f. kennedy talked about the gallant failure of robert e. lee. >> right. hour lawyer how he moved forward with reconstruction with the bravery of his troops. fdr, one of the finest christian gentlemen, one of the finest soldiers america had ever seen. fdr and john f. kennedy. >> wrote a song thank you robert e. lee because lee laid down his arms. why lee is, indeed, great is because of what he did after the civil war. because jefferson davis the president of the south wanted to break up the university army, form militias and grill units and keep the war going. they would have, too. those southern boys were born with guns coming out of the womb. they could live off the land many, many years and they could keep the war going for a number of years. lee broke with jefferson davis and said no, we must rejoin the union. lay down the arms, go back to your farms. >> laura: you think, jane, of the american story.

we hope it's an unending story. it just goes on and on and on like in all of our lives. we have failures, we have triumphs, we have successes. we have virtues and sins. and, yet, we want to look at each monument or relic through the eyes of the politically correct used of the time. and obviously everyone knows that slavery is evil. but the idea that because someone happened to be born in the south, and how many people -- historians know. how many southerners didn't side with the south. not many, right? at least knot during the war. >> most of them were not slave owners. isn't it important now that we have a historical understanding that we can gravitate toward it we don't have to agree on everything. there are certain things anthem and founding these were truly great men and had great sacrificial concern for the country. >> seeing the good. i write books about history

because of patriotism to inspire the good in the hopeful in our country. king george iii after the revolutionary war. our enemy during out revolution says he believe that republican governments were the dependent on an love country. eeven recognized that patriotism was key to government continues. he was enemy during the revolutionary war. >> laura: they came to this new place, there is something incredible going on here. is special. they almost loved the country than people just being born in the country at the time. craig, we have these terrorist attacks, mass migration of people into the united states from countries very different. doesn't mean we can't come here and be successful. boy, when we don't teach our own citizens the goodness that is america, what is it going to mean for people coming in from totally different cultures. >> obviously we are worried about the future. if we are not teaching the past how can we teach the

present into the future. why is the enemy here. why shouldn't he be here? what is going on in the country? what's the battle at stake if we don't understand the meing of the american revolution how can we expect students t understand the war on terror. >> laura: reagan farewell address talked about the importance of history. >> exactly right. >> laura: we have no know why we flew those missions. what we did on d-day. we have to know the story of america. if we don't, we won't know how important it is to save america. what's worth saving? >> you mentioned john f. kennedy. nobody found them more than ronald reagan and john kennedy. where are those democrats today? not many. >> they are not there, democrats was a different kind of democrat. janice: he was a protect. >> he was essentially a republican. look how many times he because the word freedom in

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>> laura: pat buchanan is a political and populist legend he served under three presidents including he was in the oval office with richard nixon on the very evening of the saturday night massacre. i spoke with pat earlier about whether history may repeat itself over special counsel bob mueller and the state of the trump presidency. hey, pat, how are you. >> good to see you. congratulations on the new show. >> laura: thank you. i had to invite the guy who back in 1992 going to reset the republican party or at least try to back toward reagan and all those years later you have this guy donald trump. he didn't have the pitch fork. he ended up winning the presidency in november. and the same people who were trying to drive you out of the party are trying to drive trump down now on the right and they are out there. >> exactly. but trump ran on those same issues we had back then that secure the border. no more foreign wars, unnecessary wars and also no

more of these trade deals that are exporting american jobs and factories and trump ran and beat 15 or 16 establishment republicans, amazingly won the election. >> laura: you wouldn't know it by listening to john mccain. he was at the u.s. neafl academy and gave a speech where he talked about the isms isolationism, nativism are taking over the republican party and how the fake crock pot conspiracy theories are dominating the national conversation. he is acting like, you know, trump's the problem, not the solution. >> but the point is that, look, john mccain is making this case but the idea was look, we lost all these jobs. we lost these factories. what is wrong with protecting america's factories and america's national independence and american associate. what's that the american people voted for. >> laura: he will say that's not what the republican party history is. does he know his history visa what what democrats have done via tariffs. >> we became a free trade

party but protectionism is the policy of lincoln. they passed it 10 times during the civil war. protectionism was in every republican platform until 1948. how do they think they built up this mighty industry in the united states, the greatest in the history of the world? how do the chinese -- name me one country dry in the world, great country, great economy that wilt up its economy on free trade? >> laura: let's talk about what mccain says about walls. he said look, we tear down walls. we he don't put up walls, of course, making relationship to reagan tear down that wall. >> would that be same john mccain who walked along the border and said build dang fence? he was running last time out. the entire western is ials sizzles, the issue of massive immigration third world, unchecked immigration is causing countries all over the western world to build fences, to build security fences to control immigration. ronald reagan said a country that doesn't secure its borders doesn't protect its

borders isn't really a country anymore. >> laura: what do you think reagan would think of all of this today. >> reagan was a conserving with a heart i believe like me. he was intellectually there. but he was, you know, after the one point he did ask the people talked about all the jobs -- you know about trade deals and he says what happens to the workers? when he ran into trouble with harley davidson. we said harley is going under. said why? said the japanese are sending all these big bikes and dumping them in here to kill harley davidson. put a tariff. >> laura: saved harley. >> president was sitting up on harley hog. >> laura: skinny ponytails all over the country. that's a good thing. let's talk about special counsel probe. when you have a low level guy who is a volunteer. he was on one of these foreign policy boards. i have never heard of him before. george papadopoulos, they wired him up, it turns out, and they sent him out to try to set up meetings with

trump campaign folk and so forth. he pled back in early little october. he started cooperating back in july. >> right. >> laura: could this be a real problem for the trump agenda? >> let me just say, this look. even with papadopoulos there is no underlies crime. even if he had knowledge the russians told me they have all these emails and going to dump up them, it's 2309 a crime. his crime is lying. there is no underlying crime in this whole alleged collusion conspiracy and there is no collusion between trump and putin. but there is a problem if people, you call people on the phone and you got that wire on and he's been told what to say. this is the reason problem i think for the trump administration legally. but the other one is this is going to be a mask distraction. iran can that and watergate. >> that was yours and years ago. >> i'm against the whole special prosecutor idea. >> laura: i think it's

unconstitutional; look if the congress of the united states feels that trump ought to be impeached, then impeach him. you have the constitutional on gax. they say we don't want it. we don't want to decide where to go to war and the -- turn that over to the fed. i mean, the congress is advocated enormously and those this is one of those signs of abdication. >> laura: one of the narratives seeing play out in the media, mostly fomented by the left but picked up now and then by figures on the right. more the establishment globalist figures questioning trump's fitness for office. is he seething, they claim, through leaks of someone to the press they were o. ---he was seething over the mullen indictments, yesterday. he gets enraged when people leak. he gets frustrated. he is flying off the handle. they keep doing that and i think that's a big set up to try to remove how many from office. i think they wanted to do this from the very

beginning, seeking to undo this populist victory because it's working so far. look at the economy and what's happened with consumer confidence. >> besides that you know, you mention you had the economy, look, you got the growth at 3%. two quarters in a row. have you communism tfdz as well. gout mope in the stock market, i'm sure you do. this is all upon. this is one of the things that concerns me about this investigation and there is more indictments and people say trump is going to be a broken president. the economy went back onyx after 48 landslide. do you that all the jackals come out and say we can get him. you know what? i just don't see it right now because, as i say the papadopoulos thing, i mean, i don't know what the guy did other than tell a lie about what he didn't do. nanny while have you fusion gps and democrat resigning. >> john is going to follow pretty soon.

podesta will be on dances butt stars. the russians gave material to this christopher steele who is the british agent who gave it to fusion gps, which got it spread all over this city and this dossier. you had russians involved in it podesta ran the campaign and wasserman schultz and they paid out money, the $12 million. >> laura: that's lot of money. >> they said we didn't ask what they can with the money. that's thoft rebility. >> this is something mueller himself ought himself to be investigated because it is, an example of russians ircht fearing in the american election. >> laura: "the washington post" was saying this is all republican, you know, wild theories about deep state and they are trying to delegitimize the hard working men and women of the fbi and they are trying to work against the

traditional, professionalism of the fbi and bob mueller who apparently no one can ever criticize. bob mueller should be up on mount rushmore. and he is arguing that this is just a tactic being used by republicans, again, to undermine an ongoing investigation. >> you know, i have never seen a city, even including 1974 in watergate that was so hateful and hostile towards incumbent. >> laura: did it work with nixon. >> nixon at the end there was no enthusiasm for seeing anything, son go down. destroying the guy. there is the sent of blood in the nostril. >> laura: what's really lined that, pat. what's behind the media and the left and the globalist party are trying to do? >> donald trump came to washington and stole what's republicans thought were going to be their turn. is he taking over the leadership of the country. they kant stabbed the guy. rarely ever seen, this but they are determined to break this man and to bring him town and finish him off. look, donald trump got 4% of

the vote in washington, d.c. you think this is not a hostile city? >> laura: 4%. that much. wow. that was just probably my sloot -- my relatives. trump is either thinking off or toying with the idea of mueller. brings me back to your days richard nixon night of the saturday night massacre. tell us about -- he has a constitutional right to do it, no doubt about it special counsel nut executive branch. would set up huge firestorm. >> nixon had no choice. i wrote him that morning every have to fire richards. he said he would fire docks if cox didn't effect the deal. richardson says i'm not going to do it. you know, i'm going to stand by cox. and we had henry kissinger in moscow. we had war going on taillight. nixon is telling pres never

i will -- nixon calls me over to the oval office at 3:00 in the morning. henry over there with brez november. what is brez neff going to say if the let the attorney general of the united states buffalo me and bull me and back down and we talked about it 34 minutes. because elliott is coming this way with hague. there was my friend elliott richardson. i said hi, elliott, how roux? he had this sort of smile on his face and had his head down like a sheriff leading someone to execution. as he packed in and got hammered by nixon. i went over to this restaurant over here where they had the roller skates and everything and told two friends of mine in town there will be impeachment resolutions in the house on tuesday. sure enough, there are about 20 of them next tuesday. >> laura: did you have a doubt that would happen? against mullen? >> i had urged nixon to bump the tape three months before

and be had been built up. by then he had this huge operation the pretty was covering. >> don't do it. i would say don't do it. >> laura: pat buchanan. my friend. great to see you. all right. thanks for joining us. >> laura: appreciate it up next, a live update from lower manhattan on today's terror attacks. stay with us. ♪ ♪ what started as a passion... ...has grown into an enterprise. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. now, i'm earning unlimited 2% cash back on every purchase i make. everything. what's in your wallet? with incredible flavors, like new nashville hot shrimp- crispy, spicy, and drizzled with sweet amber honey. plus the delicious classics you love, like garlic shrimp scampi. try all the shrimp you want, however you want 'em. but hurry, it ends soon.

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>> laura: there are a lot of fast-moving developments as evening related to today's terror attack in lower manhattan but in spite of it, the city's allobig hen parade has gone forward and fox's eric shawn is standing by. eric? >> good evening, laura. bill de blasio said new yorkers are strong, resilient, and we do not give in. tonight, we witnessed that firsthand. 50,000 strong.

it was the annual new york city halloween parade, where tens of thousands take to the streets in greenwich village. they did so in spite of and perhaps in response to the horrible events today. this parade is crazy. it's crazy, outrageous, a celebration of life, today taking on a special sense of poignancy, people we talked to, because of the emotional tragedy, said they came out to march and be a part of this event to be defiant. >> i don't want to live in fear. i don't want to hide. it proves that they make damage. >> i refuse to live in fear. absolutely not. this is about having fun and the whole bit. i refuse to live in a box. >> my parents were worried but they were like, don't live in fear. they wanted me to come. >> in france we had that moment after the terrorist attacks where we were afraid to go out and i hope it won't be the case here in new york. >> are you afraid now tonight? >> no, not afraid.

it is never to be afraid. it's a mistake to be afraid. >> sobol side. as you can see, there is a wall of police cars protecting sixth avenue. they have had this throughout sixth avenue and on side streets to prevent a potential copycat of what we saw earlier today. laura, we saw the new york and american spirit on display and this evening, just blocks from a terrorist attack site, the world trade center antenna is lit up in red, white, and blue. back to you. >> laura: i love it. what a great story. thank you so much, erica. we close and continue on a bit of a lighter note. my son along with millions of children across the united states went trick-or-treating tonight, blissfully unaware of the true evil that exists in the world. i have no idea what that is. but of course, on the right, he is darth maul. that is all the time we have tonight. tomorrow night, an exclusive

interview with supreme court justice clarence thomas, who really gives interviews. shannon bream is up next. good night, everyone. ♪ >> shannon: hello, welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washingto washington. ♪ this is a fox news alert. let's get up to speed with the very latest developments in the terror attack in new york by a 29-year-old uzbek national in the u.s. since 2010. sayfullo saipov holds a green card. he was repeatedly an uber driver who was said to be very friendly. today, he pledged to support for isis, got in a rented home depot truck, and went on a rampage inside of the world trade cente center. >> i saw the man with the guns. he pointed the gun at me. i'm sorry