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>> this is unusual. we are learning now that they will be in court later today, we are told. i don't know how that's going to be possible. they are already saying that they will be questioning him. he will be in court in a few minutes. ♪ >> hello, everyone, i am dana perino, along with julie pavlik, it is 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." nine victims remain hospitalized, four in critical condition, following the terror attack. eight killed and a dozen injured by a jihadi who mowed them down.
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we have more information today about the suspect, his motive, and how he came to america. the immigrant premise pakistan was allowed back into the country in 2010 on a diversity visa. president trump now bowing to end the lottery program. >> i am, today, starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program. the diversity lottery. it sounds nice. it's not nice. it's not good. we want to immediately work with congress on the diversity lottery program, on terminating it, getting rid of it. we want a merit-based program where people come into our country based on merit. >> dana: worn out from catherine harwich, our chief intelligence correspondent in washington. >> confirming to fox news that the suspect was admitted under a valid visa for the program of march 2010, and that the program does require an interview with the state department and additional screening. as he just mentioned, president trump said he is in the process of terminating the program because the favors a merit-based approach, not a
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program like a lottery that historically goes with countries with historically low rates of emigration. we learned the suspect was among the maximum 50,000 people out into the u.s. every year under the state department program and about 24,000 people that have entered the u.s. from the country blues pakistan since 2005, that is for the suspect was born. also, today, sources telling fox news that the suspect had connection to individuals who already known to law enforcemen enforcement, at that new york city briefing earlier today, the commissioner explained the suspect was running with a very suspicious crowd. meantime, we give you a better sense of the focus of the aftermath. the suspect's brick apartment building is virtually on its doorstep. you see it right there, with the mosque in the distance. the code name for the 9/11 file set the area about four to five bucks from the 9/11 hijackers, as where a square the hijackers
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were located and finalized in the 2001 stop for this. very much a nest as it was described to us, or an enclave heretical teaching. it dana? >> dana: all right, catherine, thank you so much. >> we have to get much tougher. we have to get much smarter. and we have to get much less politically correct. we are so politically correct that we are afraid to do anything, and that is not only our country. that is other countries too that are having very similar problems. we have to get tough, we have to get smart. >> dana: interesting that he brought that up today. a pew research poll that said 71% of americans are concerned about how politically correct it has become. >> we talk about political
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opportunism, but the real political opportunism after terrorism is the application of islamic phobia. if anybody expresses concern over radical islam, you get in trouble, and there is this conflict now where you have -- today, you have the mayor and the governor saying they are 8 million people in new york city. there's a million pairs of eyes. if you see something, say something. but you can't say something in this current climate because he will lose your job. this guy was already on our radar. he was interviewed by the feds in 2015 because he had links online to certain kinds of bad groups. but why didn't they go after them? maybe they were scared that they were going to lose their job. they were going to lose their jobs. this is how everybody feels. i'm tired of this hypocrisy where they say, if you see something, say something, because they really don't want you to do anything. the moment you do something, you are -- you are labeled islamic phobia, you are labeled a bigot. you look at what trump does, the
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media does this, they do it about islamic phobia, he doesn't. he is the closest to the ground of any that i have seen talking about the actual sincere fears of the average for the citizen. i know i'm not going to lick his tax plan, i don't understand his 401(k) stuff, it's going to drive me crazy, but his response -- and this is the most important thing -- his response to the presence of terror is so much more important to the reaction after terror. when you see cuomo and mayor de blasio and everyone else saying how strong new york is, who cares? it is about your response before the attack. your willingness to admit that there is the presence of tear before terror strikes. it is so no boot died afterwar, it doesn't matter. what matters is having the guts to say, it is here, how do we
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deal with it. then you get targeted for islamophobia. it takes guts to do which he is saying. diversity untethered to merit is of no value. >> a few years ago, i think it was the associated press went after the nypd for monitoring these mosques including that when that catherine harwich just pointed out >> they knew about them. nobody said anything at fort hood. >> dana: president trump also pointed out immediately earlier this morning that chuck schumer, the senator from new york, had supported the diversity visas. he didn't pointed out that chuck schumer had also voted to change that program, even though they did get to the desk under president obama. listen to the democrats responding to trump. >> look, the last thing the president or anybody else should do is politicize this tragedy. >> i don't think this is the time to get political. there is no doubt that we have to be smarter and have more
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intelligence, but there is also no doubt that this is not the time to play politics. this is not the time to foment hate. >> all president trump does is take advantage, horrible advantage of a tragedy and try to politicize and divide the american people long for leadership. not divisiveness, not finger-pointing, not name-calling. this is a tragedy. >> dana: your thoughts, juan? >> juan: i don't think there is any question this is a tragedy. i think where i would differ from grade is, i think that when you say, let's go forward with the halloween parade is, let's continue to live our lives, let's not let the terrorists win through intimidation, i think that is a very important message. when you are talking about something like prevention, i don't think there's any question that our country has taken logical steps toward what we call hardened targets, make it
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more difficult to go through the airport. president trump is talking but extreme vetting. it takes two years, if you're a syrian refugee. we have extreme measures. i want to know what he's going to do to make it more extreme. >> greg: i think there is -- telling citizens to say something and then you punish them. >> juan: i don't think so it all. i think the contrary is the case. i think you have people, including me, who said something -- >> greg: that is what trump is saying something. >> juan: but when you say something these days, i think there are a lot of people like greg who would say, that god, and i think the police, the police, by the way, are very appreciative of informants, and they have many informants in the very mosque that they have been surveilling. that is another example. taking steps to protect ourselves, we have people who are surveilling the mosque, then the more difficult question is,
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about privacy and private work. for the american constitution, that's a problem. >> it is true that when people say something authorities, they are presumed to be islamaphobic. we are not even allowed to talk about that >> the left is making two different arguments here. the you have to choose between proper vetting, more vetting or nothing at all because you would be bigoted to do so and you're going after minorities as a result. the second thing that they are saying is it's on the american people and the country to be more welcoming -- particularly of islamic immigrants to come to this country. if you aren't, they're not going to assimilate and they may go to terror and turn to terror, as if that's a justification for something like this happening.
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we don't owe them anything. >> before i go to you, the u.s. attorney of new york is going to hold a press conference later this hour. they will be announcing terrorism charges against the suspects. will bring that to you life it will be later in this hour don't miss that. >> i think greg is absolutely right. what does it mean to be on a watch list? if you think they are actually watching them, what they're doing, where they are surfing the internet, they're not doing anything. >> one guy that they are watching, we have a resource problem possibly. >> homeland security funding has gone up. >> but that number was just cut and the republicans just said. >> jason: absolutely wrong. the appropriations went up, they went from 47.8 million to
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49.3 billion and the appropriation from 2018 is a 51.1 billion. he wordsmith it. he tried to say the proposed budget. if what appropriated went up. he didn't have much policy to stand on. the thing that bothers me, if you go back to the boston bombing and this is part of what greg's point is, we didn't do anything. i introduced a bill to do some things with asylum-seekers who violate this and go back to their country of origin -- this country still today does not have an entry-exit program. i can go down and buy a sandwich and get a turkey sandwich and the tenth time i do it i get a free one. they know i came and gone to their shop. if you leave this country and come back, we don't know. this person today, i promise you that nobody can definitively tell you if they left the country. >> this guy came here and he was
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invented as part of the program and apparently no alarm bells went off. >> dana: they did all over the place. >> juan: not at all. he was led to this horrible act by something that happened when we were in the united states. >> dana: where was he hanging out? where was he hanging out, in a mosque, preaching radical ideology, that's where he was hanging out. >> juan: i think this took place online. if the conversion to radical islam took place online. unless we get away from what i think is a distraction and politically advantageous, none of the people on his van list would've been stopped by the muslim band. >> the mosque that he went to --
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you think this all happened online. >> juan: this whole thing about -- look at nice. look at what happened in times square five months ago, they are using vehicles as weapons. >> you specifically said when he came here something happened when he was living in america to make them do this. if you look at everything around him, he has friends, one of them the fbi believes is a terrorist missing now in the united state united states. he was going to a mosque under fbi surveillance. they clearly didn't catch it online. >> dana: at the fbi now is saying they are seeking information on a second person they believed was involved in this attack.
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>> greg: that flies in the face -- we keep talking about online recruitment which is true. we also have to admit the fact that they have friends and relatives and we've had two examples, the boston bombing were brothers and in san bernardino it was a husband and wife. we have to understand this is a family thing, it's a tribal thing. it's an ideology. it's a lot of different people. it is a coincidence this happened on halloween but there is a metaphor there that's been used before. when your kids come home with a bag of candy, the parents invented. if they go through it, they make sure nothing's bad in there. they took something outside and they brought it inside and the parents go through it and they look through it and that's not absurd. to do that is not absurd, it's what a parent does. applying that logic right now in a changing world -- when the outside is coming in with a pernicious ideology, the razor blade in the apple is radical islam. you have every right to that. >> dana: they keep telling me
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more information. within this hour, the u.s. attorney will have a press conference they will announce charges against the suspect. the suspect does not show remorse for the attack, he is being cooperative. that possibly could be the reason the fbi is seeking information about a second person. we will have all of that for you in this hour. he may have acted alone but all indications are the new york city terrorist suspect was inspired by isis. how do we fight this new front in the war on terror? we'll be right back. >> this program is much to you by liberty mutual insurance, liberty stands with you yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe?
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alert described the new york terrorist suspect is a likely lone wolf. now the fbi is seeking information on the second person, this man also from uzbekistan. more on that in a moment. yesterday's halloween attack bears the hallmark of isis. many radical islamic fishnet fanatics are following the playbook. >> this is what the fbi and nypd called flash to bang. one person back radicalizing very quickly and then killing eight people. it's probably the hardest thing
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to stop a larger scale operation like the 9/11 plot. this is a case that worries us the most. >> juan: flash to bang, it makes you think i will be going to stop this? you get somebody like this, suddenly he's radicalized and commits an act that kills eight people. >> dana: inspired by isis videos that he watch on his cell phone for about a year, it was about two months ago that he decided to use the truck. he was inspired by al-baghdadi. his goal was to inflict even more damage and harm. we'll have a lot more information in the press conference in a bit.
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>> juan: one of the things that a lot of people around the world are concerned about, as the united states and allies are defeating people will isis on e battlefield, they're going home and seeking to radicalize people in other countries. >> jason: we still don't have in this country and entry-exit program, if somebody left and came back we don't know that. i think governor cuomo is terribly misleading. it's part of a larger spirits and larger plots. he left a note in the truck saying he's part of isis. this is a very big attack on the united states. this is not a lone wolf. if this whole idea that anybody out there saying this is a lone wolf, i think the actual legitimate definition in lone wolf is what happened in las vegas. we figured out more about this person in the first hour or two
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than we did in las vegas and that this part of a bigger, broader plot. it's serious and we've got to take the fight to them all across the world. if >> dana: the thing about lone wolves as they often travel in packs. we talked about this earlier today, we keep hearing as isis loses territory, these fighters are going to disperse. that means we need to know who is coming in and out of the country but what does that mean for the war coming back home? the government keeps saying they're going to come back, they're going to see more of these attacks at home. we implemented a whole bunch of different ways that people could spot terrorism after 9/11. things have changed, tactics have changed, i think they need to make it clear to people what do you do when you see someone acting like this, see someone watching these videos on their phone. how do you react? when you see someone walking or
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running down the street with a truck, are there ways you can be vigilant in your everyday behavior, that don't make you paranoid they make you aware of what you can do today. >> juan: the hero cop who stopped this attack is going to have a press conference, his first words on it and we will carry it life. greg i wanted to go to something katie was talking about, steps we could take logically. people are talking about things like tighter controls on rental vehicles or electronic surveillance, better electronic surveillance. watching videos on his cell phone -- and then of course you could say what about limiting the internet? stopping certain things on the internet, does that take us toward stopping it or doesn't impinge on our civil rights, liberties in this country? >> greg: you see some of the companies making billions and billions of dollars in this arena to have some personal responsibility about what is out
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there. it doesn't show you that this person followed instructions which means the ideology leads to oceans -- a wall can't stop this. you have to untethered this from a religious aspect because that is what is hamstringing our media. whenever you want to preplan against terror, you are is homophobic. you are seen as a brain contaminated disease, it's a brain -- it turns people into homicidal zombies. if you look at it that way, the first thing to think about his quarantine, found out who these people are, quarantine, if this is what it is, they've got to go. that's how you do it. if it's tethered to religion it's a bad thing. the other thing we have to talk about is these truck attacks are common but it's going to get
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worse. it's a worse method of attack that will marry technology and terror. every year there is a terror change, an increase in proficiency and killing. if the media cared as much about terror change as climate change would be a lot better off. people have to be looking at this in a different way, not just something that conflates with islam which is what the media does -- not with the people who are fighting this thing. it's the media that conflates with islam which paralyzes people from actually thinking what to do. >> juan: much more to come on "the five," we'll be back in just a moment.
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>> greg: we are continuing our coverage of the aftermath of the deadly new york city terror attack, we are waiting to press conferences. we will hear from the hero nypd officer, he is credited with
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stopping the suspected terrorist opening fire, bringing down the dirt bag before he could do any more harm. the second press conference happening this hour from the u.s. attorney's office will announce the terrorism charges against the dirt bag here. >> katie: apparently he asked for isis flags in the hospital room. >> jason: i am worried the u.s. attorney is going to come out and offer charges. i think the suspect in the benghazi attack should've been taken to guantanamo bay. i've been down there a couple of times. i'm telling you, they could do a lot more surveilling and watching that person without reading him -- >> katie: i don't know if it will pass muster.
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>> thank you for coming, my name is officer ryan. i appreciate the public on the officer action of myself and my fellow officers. i understand the importance of yesterday's events in the role we played and i am grateful for the recognition we have received. i want to thank my family and friends for their support and all of the responding officers who assisted me. however, due to the nature of the pending criminal case, i cannot make any further public statements about the incident at the time. thank you.
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>> greg: he was suddenly woke to the vital importance of gratitude to the police, especially when his election is next week. >> juan: i don't get why you attack him so constantly. living in new york city and washington, d.c., we have so much in the way of conscientious hardworking cops. >> greg: he wasn't that crazy about the cops. >> juan: we have more cops now in new york than ever. >> greg: did they cut the number of cops, brain room, get on that. he also said he was very proud that they still attended the parade. the only way you could attend a parade is because a law enforcement is there to protect you. >> jason: maybe you should write him by a nash for mayor. i love ordinary americans who do
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extraordinary things, the guy goes to work he doesn't know this is going to happen that moment is there and he took them down so was on his way to deal with emotionally disturbed individual. >> greg: that wasn't made by the way. they are unassuming. >> katie: the guys humility after overnight he's become a hero to so many. imagine if this guy hadn't been stopped and he went around doing god knows what for how long, he thinks his fellow first responders. he says i don't want to be in the public eye, there's an ongoing criminal investigation. moves along. you're right about bill de blasio, it's the same guy who said his son has to be afraid of police officers because they are all racist. >> juan: he said he has the same conversation so many black
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parents have with their kids. >> katie: he warned his son because he believes all police officers are inherently racist and his biracial son has to be worried. >> juan: i don't think that was fair. i've had that conversation with my son about where you keep your hands. the >> katie: i've had that conversation too. >> juan: then why are you blaming de blasio? >> katie: because my parents didn't think all caps were racist. >> dana: because he's a u.s. legal resident, the supreme court will have to hear it. i think this court would grant him haiti is. habeas corpus. anything they have gotten from him in the last 48 hours, it's not admissible later on.
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i would let new york city deal with it. >> jason: there's a reason why we have guantanamo bay and there's a reason why we are able to extract so much information in that setting. he's not a united states citize citizen. >> dana: he is going to be granted habeas corpus rights under the constitution because he is legal permanent resident. this is going to be an interesting political conversation over the next three years has president trump deals with more of these things, god forbid. the obama administration was roundly criticized for treating situations like this in a criminal way rather than a wartime way, it's good to be interesting to watch to see what the justice department under the trump administration does after this. >> greg: let's do a generic. tease: will be right back.
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>> jason: you're looking life at the u.s. attorney's office in lower manhattan, he's about to announce federal terrorism charges against the suspect in yesterday's deadly attack we will bring that to you as it happens. meanwhile, a look at the liberal media coverage. this cnn stunningly chose to keep the muslim suspects ethnicity and physical features secret. >> please know who he is, they have a description of him, i'm not good to share that. >> jason: jake tapper felt the need to remind viewers how beautiful the phrase allah akbar can be. >> jason: over on nbc they want you to know that sometimes
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christians are responsible for terror also. >> what you're seeing is not islam, sacrificing and getting yourself killed, and i'm not that is islamic -- anti-islamic. even christians, we've seen catholics in canada converted to islam and carrying out acts of terror. >> jason: i know reporters are doing this spontaneously but this is not a bunch of catholics gone crazy, this isn't mormons out doing this stuff. it's not just buddhists gone wild, there is a trend here. there are a lot of good quality people, i have muslim friends. the overwhelming majority of muslims don't do this. but there is this radical element that doesn't do it. we have to be honest about who they aren't what they are doing. would you agree with that? do you buy into this notion that we need to be so politically correct? >> juan: thanks for giving me a chance.
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i'm not a politically correct guy but i am against stereotypes and discrimination. i don't think that most muslims are up to terrorism, if i'm an investigator, i think there is a concrete link and you look at the pattern. i think that's what you do if you're an intelligent person. you want to try to to prevent vince from happening again. the question is are you being effective or are you just playing politics? greg was saying earlier, a lot of people are pc they don't want to talk about islam in this context. maybe what we should do is move away from them and call it a cult. trump introduces a band and everyone introduces thinks it'n muslims. it's not in keeping with our constitutional protections but i don't think it was necessarily a bad idea per se. if you are saying let's look at the pattern.
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as the case is with this diversity program, 50,000 piece pieces. in terms of green cards that's nothing. >> greg: you only need one. in all these clips, they are unconsciously paralyzed by islam a islamaphobia phobia. you think the aftermath of the terror attack is worst than the terror attack. the first thought is there going to be met at the muslims. that's a strange place to go because irrational anger over muslims now takes priority over carnage. but they carnage is already happened, the irrational anger hasn't yet. that leads to more terror
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attacks you from back to the pernicious identity politics. americans are guilty of being bigots and racist and it's our way of expressing that again. >> juan: everybody in this room thought is this islamic terror? then it turns out not to be islamic terror. doesn't lead to a conclusion, we've got to watch out for white guys? >> greg: we got to watch out for people like that guy, what we do, as libertarians, conservatives, may be normal people, we focus on the actor, the agent of mayhem. what happens after las vegas, they focus on the tool. not the guy, they focus on the gun.
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we focus on the agent of mayhem, whether it's the guy in vegas or the guy in new york. we go after the agent to commit a debt. >> katie: the individual responsible. i don't understand why bringing of the vast majority of muslims is relevant to the conversation. why is that something that is part of the talking right now? that doesn't allow us to get to the issue and it's a distraction from getting at the issue in solving the problem. who appointed all these media people and pundits ants experts on what islam is. i know an expert on islam, his name is al-baghdadi, he has a phd in islamic studies from the islamic university in baghdad. if we're going to talk about experts, if you look at the ats guy, if you want to look at what
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islam is teaching, look at who is he is inspired by. >> juan: you don't think that's an extremist? >> katie: he is an extremist, all of these media pundits are acting like regular everyday americans who want to acknowledge there's a problem are called islamaphobic. he is the one teaching this. where is the reform there? why are we talking about all these irrelevance? >> juan: the guy who had that christian called. >> katie: did he have a caliphate with thousands of fighters? i don't want to get into that analogy, but he wasn't attacking innocent people and inspiring thousands of attacks around the world. it was completely separate situation. >> jason: you have to understand the situation, 23
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people were brought in part. i want to see them all deported, i think that would hit their family and would catch the attention and serve a really good purpose. before that clip is now going to be played on the other networks saying how extreme that is. it's bipartisan agreement on wanting to look at the program. >> greg: what jason said it sounds controversial not if you look -- talk to people that have been in the military that have worked with muslims in afghanistan, they talk about how family driven they are. if they know their family could be affected by this, the migration of 21 or 22 people going back, that might actually impact them. it could increase the ripple
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effect in the communities. this family is affected, if that's controversial to say, that you are going to screw your family overcome it doesn't been hurting her family -- they could lose everything. >> jason: you don't trust that family because if this suspect did what he did and he killed those eight people and he was trying to cause chaos and terror, i don't trust his famil family. they are all going to pay a price and that will create a deterrent moving forward. >> dana: i think they call they called a lottery for a reason, it's a literal lottery. if you get a chance to come to the united states of america, you have absolutely won the lottery. we all did, we were born here, we benefit so much because we are here in this free country. i think what jake tapper was saying -- i understand it. these radicals are perverting the religion of islam and is hurting those innocent people.
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>> greg: he's talked tough on this stuff. >> dana: i think it's important we don't talk about the subject as deranged or mentally ill, he is evil. it's about good versus evil is not about religion versus religion. >> jason: he is evil, will have a press conference coming up and will bring that to you. .? na. ever since we switched to fedex ground business has been great. they're affordable and fast... maybe "too affordable and fast." what if... "people" aren't buying these books online, but "they" are buying them to protect their secrets?!?! hi bill. if that is your real name. it's william actually. hmph! affordable, fast fedex ground.
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>> katie: you are looking live at the u.s. attorney's office in lower manhattan, about to announce federal terrorism charges against a suspect in yesterday's deadly attack, it should start any minute, we will bring it to you as it happens. next we have some new information in on some of the suspect cell phones, -- standby, the u.s. attorney is now giving his press conference. >> good evening, i am the acting united states attorney of the southern district of new york. yesterday afternoon, a man consumed by hate and a twisted ideology attacked our country and our city. using a rented home depot truck as his weapon of terror, the man
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sped down west side highway and intentionally plowed his truck into a pedestrian walkway and bicycle path, hitting and running over people who were simply trying to enjoy a sunny afternoon in new york city. he killed eight innocent human beings and injured at least a dozen other people. that man as alleged in the complaint filed today was sayfullo habibullaevic saipov. thanks to the incredible work of the fbi and the law enforcement in the city out and around the country, just about 24 hours after his attack, we now have him charged with federal crimes of terrorism.
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the complaint charges saipov with two counts. a federal charge of terrorism and violence with a motor vehicle that resulted in multiple deaths. at the complaint alleges after speeding through a walkway and bicycle paths running over and killing people, saipov crashed his truck into a school bus carrying children. then he got out and yelled allah akbar, meaning "god is great" and brandishing to weapons including a paintball gun and a pellet gun. he was stopped by a police officer who confronted him and shot him. in the short time and since attack, we have developed
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evidence establishing saipov committed to this in support of isis. that evidence is laid out in the complaint but it includes the following. a note that was recovered just outside the truck that read in part "no god but god, and mohammed is his prophet." and islamic supplication, it will endure, a phrase commonly used to refer to isis. also a search of cell phones found in a bag that he was carrying, a search conducted in pursuant to court authorized wiretaps revealed thousands of isis related images. and 90 videos, about 90 videos depicting among other things, isis fighters killing prisoners. by running over them with a tan tank. beheading them and shooting them in the face.
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a miranda interview statement with law enforcement last night into day, saipov admitted he was inspired to commit the attack by the isis videos he watched and had been planning this attack for 2 months. he also admitted he had rented a truck on october 22nd to practice the turns he would make on his halloween day attack. as i mentioned, it is incredible investigative work that has allowed us to bring these charges so soon after the attacks. i want to thank all of the law enforcement and citizens who responded to this attack in the way new yorkers do. in particular, i want to thank officer ryan nash for his selfless bravery. i want to thank the fbi represented here today by bill sweeney, assistant director in
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charge of the new york field office -- their work in this case as in all terrorism matters that we've worked with them on has been extraordinary. i also want to thank the nypd, represented here today by first deputy commissioner benjamin tucker and deputy commissioner john miller. their leadership and that of commissioner o'neill over the greatest police force in the world has helped keep our city safe. and in the wake of yesterday's attacks, the nypd has kept our citizens reassured and continuing to live our lives. finally, i want to thank the terrorism prosecutors and investigators in my office who jumped on this immediately and haven't gotten any sleep since. andrew beatty, andrew holt, matthew laroche who are not here because they are in court at the present event and investigators cap in song and george corrie as well as the supervisors of our
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terrorism and international narcotics unit who are here with me, sean buckley and elon grass. the fbi, the nypd and the jp bf have a long unblemished track record of successfully investigating and prosecuting domestic and international terrorists, whether it's the chelsea bomber just convicted a few weeks ago on all counts who will be serving mandatory life in prison, or the other terrorist convicted in our core courthouse. that list includes the trial of usama bin laden's son-in-law. the homegrown isis supporter and to
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khalid al fawas. of the eight innocent people saipov killed, two of the victims were american and the rest were visiting from other countries. those argentinian men came here like the millions of other visitors to see the sights and spend it sometime in the greatest city on earth. for the same reason that the millions visit this city and find it so special, alleged terrorists like a saipov view the city as a prime target for their hate filled crimes. for the alleged terrorists like saipov, they will find in new york city something else -- justice.

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