bring tissues. tomorrow night massive huge breaking news. president obama, you may want to watch. thanks for joining us. she's here and doing amazing. we are proud of her. you are doing incredible in the ratings. i hope you say here now. >> laura: thank you and i can't wait it see your motive. do you get a director's chair. i would pay to see you on the red carpet. >> sean: have a great show. >> laura: good evening from washington. the willful blindness of the left in the wake of terrorists attacks. that's tonight's angle. any time there is a terrorist

terrorists liberals come down with a case of amnesia and act like random jihadist attacks never happened before. yesterday this uzbek yells out allah akbar and suggests he murdered in the name of isis but some are scratching their heads. as an uber driver, why would he have anger toward us? some will do anything to avoid the elephant in the room. we have a poison strain of radical islam has entered the united states and they are plotting to kill our citizens. why learn from the past and grabble with reality when we can be comforted by stephen colbert.

>> new yorkers will wake up to new details and will also wake up and keep going. in an uncertain world, one thing is for sure. new yorkers will never live in fear. >> laura: if that doesn't calm your nerves, today mayor de blasio picked up where colbert left off. >> that was an attack on our values. it was never to break our spirit. never to break our spirit, it failed. >> laura: of course new yorkers are resilient. they survived and rebuilt after 911, mayor. this misses the point. why enough mi american die to satisfy the liberal dogma of starts. -- diversity. this uzbek person got here through the diversity visa

program with access to all government freebies. today the president resumed his call to end the diversity visa program. >> i am today starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program. we want a merit based program where people come into our country base on merit. we want to get rid of chain migration. >> laura: he was talking sensible immigration policy but the left wants to demonize him or talk there their own agenda. >> to focus on a visa program politicizes this tragedy. >> the president's tweets were not helpful. i don't think they were factual. they tended to point fingers and politicize the situation. i think it is madness the number

of assault weapons we have in this country. i hope one day we will have a federal policy that brings sanity to the gun policy laws in this country. >> laura: gun policy? what is he talking about? since the terrorists instrument of choice was a rented truck, should we ban them too, governor? the reason these folks avoid the truth or divert our attention every time we experience terrorists attacks is because the reality, the current situation conflicts with their own warped world view. the government's cheap responsibility is to secure the homeland that protects the freedoms we enjoy. on the left there is one value that trumps all others, even safety. it's the d-word. >> all of those immigrants make america more american. that diversity we have the strength in our country.

>> we are the best problem solvers in the world. our diversity is a strength. >> laura: it's a cult of diversity and led us to this dangerous program without which 8 innocent pple would be alive today. now remember what chuck schumer said in defense of the visa lottery. >> my city of new york benefitted from from country and ireland, poland, and nigeria had large numbers of immigrants settle and help the diversity of new york and the diversity of america. >> laura: he left out uzbekistan on that list. tears flowed down senator's schumer's cheek when the muslim immigrants were affected by the president's travel ban. where were his tears today.

we don't need politician's tears or shishe. -- cliche. stop this madness. they should shutdown this diversity visa farce now before another american or tourist to our country dies. that's the angle. joining us now is senator david purdue, a republican from georgia. he share's president trump's goal to get rid of the diversity visa program. thanks for coming on the program tonight. i have a hard time after a hideous event such as what we saw last night, seeing that and seeing people come out today who still can't connect the dots. i called it willful blindness. it's more than that. this is a dangerous dereliction of duty on the part of politicians to keep the scam of

a diversity visa program going. >> this president called this out last year. i give him high marcus. he talked about it today. we want to go to a merit based immigration system. this diversity lottery is a fraud. it has social security fraud. worse 30% go to countries that harbor and promote terrorism. the largest recipient country for these visas, the third larger is iran. >> laura: who are the big champions? >> the left, they want diversity. >> laura: the businesses? >> no, this is all about a program that was envisioned by ted kennedy and schumer

yesterday. >> laura: and bush. he signed it into law. >> he did. >> laura: there is a line. the politicians on the right and left who are globalist times. they love all of the international trade deals regardless of their effect on the workers and love amnesty. globalism and their quest for diversity trumps safety and security? workers rights in the u.s.? i find that also to be troubling. >> most of the countries in the world have already move to protect their national borders and provide for the economic growth within the immigration system. canada and australia. >> laura: and japan and new zealand. >> they went to a merit based system to bring the right kind of people in relative to the economi. we don't. we have a family based chain migration system.

>> laura: explain that. chain migration? you bring in the old grandmother who is dying from cancer in mexico? you heartless senator. >> today we bring this 1.1 million green card recipients a year. that's not the real problem. the problem is 70,000 come in that are skilled based. the rest are a chain. that means a recipient can name their grandmother, cousin or uncle and they can name their grandmother and uncle and cousin. it goes on and on. after decades of doing this, we have an immigration system that doesn't fit the economic needs and as we saw in this loop hole doesn't protect national security. >> laura: what does it do for assimilation? people are afraid to talk about this because they are called names. are you assimilating or creating

mini-pakistans or mini-irans? we see this in michigan, and dearborn and in new york. most of the people are fine people and work hard. the melting pot seems to just be melting down in some areas. not all. >> there this is the biggest difference since 1990 and the ted kennedy idea. they came in and contributed to the economy. today we want an open border. that's what the progressives want. >> laura: they don't want any border. they don't want deportation except murderers. everyone can come and go. it's a global order.

>> what we want to do in a merit based system is eliminate chain migration is the same conclusion under bill clinton and all of the commissions. >> laura: the commissions never get anything done. >> they suggested a merit based system and clinton acknowledged that. this should be a bipartisan support. >> laura: how many immigrants game under a chain migration? 13 million over the last 25 years? >> it's 1.1 million every year and only 140 is the worker and the immediate family. do you the math on that. that's over 900,000 people a year are coming in the chain migration. >> laura: are you confident that the democrats will limit chain

migration? otherwise they will kill the dream act. will they do it? >> we will see. this is where the self-interest on the other side, we will test that against what is good for the country. >> laura: thank you very much. joining us now for reaction in washington, scott, former democratic chairman in washington, d.c. and from virginia beach, the president of act for america. great toy sue both. let's go into this. you heard me on the diversity, it's more important than security, and safety and rule of law and due process. the diversity word. you hear it on college campuses. >> right now diversity is killing americans. we have 8 people we have not even seen their funerals yet with their families mourning. it preliminaogram may have starh

good intentions but it needs to end. the countries right now, libya and syria and iraq, do we need to bring people from these countries. it needs to end military. it was great to see senator purdue. i pledge my organization will mobilize behind his bill. >> laura: scott, a lot of folks could use a helping hand. why bring 50,000 people a year into the country, many of them have no skills, have no affinity for the culture. more of a burden on society when we need these jobs for lower income and minority americans in places like the district of

columbia? >> why do you presume if we bring immigrants in and we value diversity, we are stronger because we are different. the 3 of us are very different. we create the strength in this country. why is that so wrong? these 8 to 10 people were killed by a terrorist. they were not killed by that diversity travel visa program. he did what he was supposed to do. he was here for 7 years. came here in 2010. >> laura: he didn't do what he was supposed to do. he killed 8 people. >> [overlapping talking]. >> he assimilated. >> laura: are you out of your mind? >> no, i am not out of my mind. he was radicalized while he was here in the u.s. >> [overlapping talking]. >> laura: stop. let me ask you a question.

you just said someone could come in and wow, he got a job. he is working at k-mart or somewhere. oh he is assimilating. because we the internet, we can't tell, can we, if you are muslim in the united states. maybe you are alone and don't have any contacts. you could become radicalized. is the diversity lottery program worth a single life of an innocent american in your estimation? we will sacrifice x-number of people because we love diversity? >> i think the value and power of diversity is alive and well in this country. >> laura: the answer is yes? >> hold on. i will answer. it's not worth one life. let's be clear. the toughest part of homeland security is finding those being

radicalized. >> laura: why should we burden the fbi with another job to do. you don't have a consitutional right to come into the united states. it was created in 1989. >> if it's the law, you do. >> [overlapping talking]. >> you are wrong! >> [overlapping talking]. >> you have a republican president that signed this law. charles schumer in 2013 with bipartisan support tried to kill it. you know who killed it? the republicans in the house. >> laura: if you think you will defend the republicans on this, you don't know who you are talking to. >> we agree on one thing. >> laura: we have hundreds of thousands of muslims in the united states. they are law ar-abiding and a l

have conservative values. sometimes they vote democrat. we can't track everyone in the country. nor can we profile everyone in the country because they come in on a visa and muslim. they are here and have families. now what do we do? >> we have to be careful and start profiling and basing it on behavior. >> you are going to profile muslims? you said that on national tv. >> [overlapping talking]. >> how about black me people. >> i let you speak. you let me speak out of respect. i come from israel. people are lying they fidget and sweat and they smile. they fake their smile. we need to invest in human intelligence and starting profiling people. >> my goodness.

>> 8 a lot of fbi agents are already monitoring terrorism in this country. that's a problem -- there is a problem when 80% of terrorism comes out of a community that represents only 2% of the american society and that's the muslim community. >> [overlapping talking]. >> profile everyone who is dangerous. i will never support profiling as an african-american. if you profile with human intelligence, you do that across the board: hispanics and white nationalives and domestic terrorism. the idea that muslims are bad and committing these crimes, that's not the case. when you start profiling you violate their rights. >> [overlapping talking]

>> laura: okay. scott, i will say this. you do concede, do you not that overwhelmingly the terrorists attacks in the united states and europe are committed by muslims, correct? >> well, when you add europe and the incidents we know about. we have domestic terrorism here. >> laura: okay. the oklahoma city bombing. we are out of time. coming up shocking examples of med media bias following the new york city terrorists attacks. >> "the ingraham angle" is brought to you by: liberty did what? yeah, they saved us a ton, which gave us a little wiggle room in our budget. wish our insurance did that. then we could get a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey, welcome back. this guy... right?

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>> laura: welcome back. some politicians are using the new york city terrorist attacks to foment a false narrative about imbrasion. -- immigration. nbc news offered this muslim americans again brace for

backlash. this one said investigators seek motive after a driver in a rented truck: motive? he yelled allah akbar. joining us is a democratic strategist and in new york ann coulter. cries of muslim phobia. long did it take? >> 6 hours for those keeping count. the media is very, very predictable. the media is on the side of the democrats. the democrats have not changed any minds. it's not like they have good ideas. they bring in ringers.

they want the transformation of america to elections. it came up with the virginia election in the "new york times," democrats fretting that the hispanics in virginia may not come out and vote. this is all about the vote for the democrats. for the corrupt republicans it's because their donors want cheap larry brown. don't imagine the democrats are changing minds. >> laura: david, on the diversity visa program, it's like a powerball for visas. is that where we should be today given the labor market? i don't get it. lab labor. >> i come from the upmidwest. i know about factories that

shutdown and i know about finding job for people at home. i am thinking about the families of those eight people. really people were killed. real people are hurt. we should not be terrorized by the terrorists. i will ride a bike tomorrow and ride the metro. these are the things we should talk about. >> laura: that's cliche. that's the stuff we hear all the time. we are resilient. we are americans. they would be alive if we didn't have that program in place. >> hold on. that's like me saying there would be people alive in las vegas if we didn't have assault weapons for sale. >> laura: in this case we have a second amendment that gives us the right to bear arms. >> so you think the shooting and

gun sales are okay? >> laura: no. >> but because we are talking about a pass -- law that passed in 1990. >> laura: that's not what i am saying. liberals have gone too far. that's why trump got elected. everyone gets their blinders on. she wrote books about this. we think we have the right answers. >> you are right about that. >> laura: most people in the country are not that political. they don't care about politics. they want food and safety. >> agree. >> laura: they want security and save a little for retirement. this doesn't make sense to most americans. if you did a poll on this, just on this issue of the diversity visa, you asked a random guy in upstate new york, should we have a diversity visa or people down south or even in california, they are not seeing hikes in

their wages. do you think they say we need more diversity. >> you bring up a fantastic point. you brought it up with all of your guests. i would like to more fully answer it. this religion of diversity. diversity is treated like it's a good thing like the word organic. we have diversity plus lottery. that's how kate upton picks how she will date. it's crazy! we are the greatest country in the world. we should be choosing people who will be our fellow citizens the way the astros and the dodgers choose their players and not take people with clubfeet. it's our choice. when americans find out the way our immigration program is run.

it's not popular. the democrats don't want to talk about it. until donald trump, no republican wanted to talk about it either. >> there was a legislative bill put forward to have a blanket reform that was rejected. do you support that bipartisan effort to reform immigration. >> it was rejected as part of the plan to amnesty. >> so you don't. >> we don't want to amnesty 30 million illegals. >> laura: a rare and excuse excuse interview with my former boss supreme court justice clarence thomas. that's why i switched to the spark cash card

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>> laura: clarence thomas had one of the most distinguished legal careers in american history. only the second african-american to serve on the supreme court and he likes to stay out of the spotlight. rarely speaks to the media. luckily, he made an exception for him. maybe because i clerked for the supreme court for him just a few years ago. we spoke about his judicial philosophy and his confirmation hearing and his friendship and respect for the late great anthony scalia. only 25 years since i worked for you. i am dating myself and that's fine. i thought about what i wanted to ask you. you loathe doing any press interviews. i was thinking about your

friendship with justice scalia and he was a friend of mine. tell me about the court without him. >> well, the most charitiable thing to say it's different. there is a big emptiness to it. he had a way of filling up the room with his personality, his quips, intellect and humor. you know, when he is alone or in a group, he has to be on stage. he was a lot of fun. it's interesting. i didn't know him before i went to the court. i got to know him. we developed a friendship, a bond of trust. so for me, personally it's very different. i have excellent colleagues there. justices are outstanding. my friends who have been there for a while are just good people. it worked out very well.

without him, it's very, very difference. it's entirely different court without him. >> laura: justice goreswitch ruffled some feathers. >> well, i don't have feathers so i am not part of that. >> laura: he went right in there. gorsuch. >> he is a good man. i have no idea what they are talking about. i hear reports that justice scalia was tossing things and slamming doors. >> laura: i never saw that. >> i never did either. are you holding back when i am here? i hear you are doing all of these things. people have to say what they have to say. i don't see all of those things. when you are new on the court, you are trying to find your way. it's a lot of work. it's a lot of personal

adjustments. you are moving your family. you are getting through the effects of confirmation. i don't care who that is. it's an adjustment period. there is not the court of appeals. it's quite different for me having been on the d.c. circuit. you were there in my second year. you know i was still going through an adjustment. >> laura: we had like a closet for an office. now you have nice chambers. >> law clerks have those chambers now. i just want you to know. >> laura: the court itself, it was outsiders, people who never visited the court, they hear about the court and see the annual photo you all take and you all look like you lost your best friend. it looks dour and unhappy place to be. you were in the seminary for a

time. justice thomas still leads that kind of monastic life. you don't give interviews. is it on the inside? >> it's a good place to work. you can disagree with this opinion or that. i am not the person to say it's a sour or dour place or that it is like a funeral in its atmosphere. it's a wonderful place to work. >> laura: i loved jan greenberg's book about the court. "extremiti "extremities -- supreme conflict." she exploded the myth that you were scalia's puppet. she went from case to case

involving race. you ended up having your own view of juroris prudence and your own approach to judging that was unique and sometimes to the consternation of justice scalia. >> we have a bond. i have a long history being told what to do. i do that well. [laughing] people i have to say what they have to say. it's a place where individuals do their work.have to say what have to say. it's a place where individuals do their work.have to say what have to say. it's a place where individuals do their work. justice scalia didn't follow me and i didn't follow him. nobody up there follows another person. >> laura:our philosophy is described as formalistic, rigid, strictly conservative.

how do you describe your philosophy, justice? >> i think it's get it right. i think we are required to reason to a conclusion. that's what we try to do. and do it in a way that it's accessible to regular people. when people don't agree with you, you said you were going to a football game. i am a huge nebraska fan. we are doing okay but not great. the volleyball team is my favorite team and they are doing fabulous. volleyball is a big deal. we is over 8,000 people per game. people have a tendency in sports to be outcome oriented. you will take -- you want a particular outcome. you want to win the game. if the referees make a call

consistent with the outcome you prefer, you say the referee did a great job because that referee has benefitted or made possible the outcome you want. i think we have to be careful not to take outcomes that we want and back wash that into the process of decision making. you don't reach a decision and then force the process. you use the process to try to do it the legitimate way. something justice scalia and i agreed on. you don't justify the outcome, you reason to the outcome. >> laura: 28 years ago, you went through the worst confirmation spectacle in history. >> mr. chairman, i am a victim of this process. my name has been harmed. my integrity has been harmed. my character has been harmed. my family has been harmed.

my friends have been harmed. there is nothing this committee, this body or this country can do to give me my good name back. nothing! i will not provide the rope for my own lynching or for future humilination. no job is worth what i have been through. no job. >> laura: you said i am a victim of this process. my character has been harmed. no job is worth what i have been through. no job. was it worth it? >> you know, that's a good question. i think we are called to do certain things. in my youth, i thought i was called to be a pre-draiespriest. there are jobs you would not

choose but you are called to do it. think about it a second. when we do wounded warriors or wreaths across america, what do you tell the widows, the families of the fallen? that you were too afraid to go through a little bit of uncertainty, a little bit of difficulty to do a job like this? when they actually were in harm's way. what do you tell the young man who is a double amputee because of war? that you were afraid to go through that? i don't think anyone would choose to go through unpleasantness, but if it has to be that, to do what is right, then so be it. >> laura: coming up more of our exclusive interview with justice clarence thomas and his thoughts

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♪ >> laura: welcome back. we continue with our rare exclusive interview with supreme

court justice clarence thomas. in part 2 of our conversation, we discussed the recent controversy over monuments in america. his love of the constitution and that small justice thomas exhibit finally added to the national african-american museum. smithsonian african-american museum for the first year, it had no reference to you except to the confirmation battle. did you think anything of that? >> not really. the people who cared about me did, obviously. not really. i grew up at a time when i was exposed to just a wonderful range of ideas in a segregated black library in savannah. you might read george skyler or

a book by ralph ellison or baldwin. you might read one by richards wright. you might read something about booker t. washington. you had a range of ideas. i think we are getting comfortable in our society limiting ideas and exposure to ideas. maybe that's a sympton of it. i don't know. but, i don't think it's good for the next generation and the people who will be learning. i think i learned tremendous amounts in the carnegie liberra from being exposed to ideas. why would a little kid in savannah georgia be reading ann rand? someone said it's okay for to you read that and learn from it.

>> laura: were any statues torn down in your time as a young boy? >> well, i didn't see that much. there were all sorts of other problems. you know, i think we -- when i grew up and where i grew up in savannah, the people i grew up were a different people. >> laura: how so? >> well, when you think of my grandparents, these were people who had been through quite a bit and had a calmness and contentment about life. they understood putting things in context. what was important priorities. what battle will you fight today? what decisions are you going to make. what decisions you make today result you being able to eat. long-term, these two boys they

were raising will be educated and have good manners and go to school and be polite to the neighbors. today we think everything has to be one size fits all and people can't have opinions that make us uncomfortable or ideas that make us uncomfortable or we don't agree with. they would not tolerate that. >> laura: your grandparents went through racial ghardship? >> yes. >> laura: there is a plaque in your office about your grandfather. >> there were a lot of opportunities to say you could not do certain things. my grandfather who was raiseed in part by his grandmother who was a freed slave and raised by

his aunt and archingle. -- uncle. his mother died when he was a young boy. he was raised by his grandmother and uncle later on. when you said to him, you could not do something. his response was always the same. old man can't is dead, i helped bury him. he would say that to you when you got up at 4 a.m. to go on the farm. you said i can't do this. old man can't is dead. >> laura: i wish i knew your grandfather. >> i wish a lot of people knew him. i wish he was still here so i could thank him. >> laura: the fact that you raised a son and a nephew. what did you learn from that? >> you know, i think you are raising kids. it's a humbling process. >> laura: yes.

>> it gets increasingly humbling as they get older. any parent who raises kids will tell you it's humbling. >> laura: are you shocked after all of these years, in the '60s you graduated? >> '71. >> laura: are you surprised how things are still so rangerous in the united states today about foundational issues? the anthem and so forth? >> no, i am not surprised. what binds us? what do we all have in common anymore? i think we have to think about that. when i was a kid there were things we held dear and all had in common. we talk about eplurbis unam.

i think it's a great country. some people decided that the constitution and history are not worth defending. if you are in my position, they have to be worth defending. that's what keeps you going. that's what energizes you. all of the criticisms and the other things. that's what makes it all acceptable. what you are doing is so important and so critical to the things that matter. i don't know what it is that we can say instinctively we have as a country in common. >> laura: great to see you. thanks for making time for us

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best seller, explains why we are here and where we are going. i give some advice, by the way, on who we should pick for the next supreme court justice. that will do it for us tonight. shannon bream and "fox news @ night" taking over, standing by. take the baton, shannon. >> shannon: we can weigh in on that supreme court. we'll discuss, laura prayed in the meantime, here's what's ahead on "fox news @ night." tonight in the wake of the new york terror attack, president trump slams washington. >> we have to get much less politically correct way >> shannon: reaction from top republicans and democrats to the president's challenge after the rampage. senator mitch mcconnell warms to the appointments but there is no thought when it comes to steve bannon. because the person you mentioned, his allies succeeded and nominated five candidates who all lost. >> shannon: can the majority leader heal the within the g.o.p.? at the "fox news @ night" exclusive. should hillary clinton's campaign chairman john pode