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on at the dnc. that's not okay. the dnc needs to, obviously, figure out how it's going to do a better job representing the voices of the wide spectrum of democrats in this country because they're not being served by their party right now, and it's sad. david: aide adrienne, are democrats going to get rid of the whole superdelegate system? because that was the focus of a lot of the ire of democrats. >> look, that's something that the secretary -- i'm sorry, chairman perez will be focusing on moving forward. david: what do you think? is are they getting rid of the superdelegates? >> i have no idea. i want to make one final point -- david: very quickly, adrienne, you're not answering my questions. >> i have not had enough time -- david: you've had plenty of time. >> bernie sanders care carried the caucuses -- david: everybody had enough time. thank you very much, ladies. despite pleading guilty to desertion, a judge says bowe
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bergdahl will not be spending one more day in prison. is that right? is that fair? a soldier who was wounded searching for bergdahl is here with his reaction. my dad's. grandma's. aunt stacy's. what are the reasons you care for your heart? qunol coq10 with 3x better absorption has the #1 cardiologist recommended form of coq10 to support heart health. qunol, the better coq10.
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david: well, it was clearly one of the most something sentences from a military court that we've ever seen. army deserter bowe bergdahl walks, gets a dishonorable discharge but no jail time. a former army sergeant who was wounded searching for bergdahl joins us now on the phone. sergeant maria, thank you very much for your service. your thoughts when you first heard that bergdahl will get no more jail time. >> well, it was slightly bittersweet. i was glad for the fact that he was going to get a dishonorable discharge as well as a reduction from e5 to e1, but upon hearing the no jail time, that was
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disappointing, to say the least. david: you were a witness against bergdahl at his sentencing hearing. what did you tell the court? >> i told them the basic what happened during the mission that i was on, searching for certain missing soldier in afghanistan. i told them about the extent of my injuries and just the slight touch of any type of ptsd, mental things i had as well. david: could you describe for our audience the extent of your physical injuries? >> a rpg struck my hand and rifle, but it did not explode, so my right thumb was hanging off a little abnormally. not completely off or severedded, but it was just hanging off. my trigger finger was split open like a hot dog.
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my middle, ring and pinky finger were split at the knuckles, and then a second rpg and i got another piece of shrapnel in my left elbow. david: master sergeant mark allen suffered a head wound, right? >> correct. david: and i'm just wondering when you were searching for bergdahl, you were told that this was a soldier who was captured or this was a soldier who was lost? what did they tell you about the search mission? >> just that this particular fella had walked from post. that was pretty much it. after that there was, well, you know how soldiers kind of, to kind of make up their own stories, there's a onen of different -- bunch of different reasons why people thought. but the foremost thing was that he walked off. david: so did you have any suspicion at the time that he might have been deserting?
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>> no, none at all. david: so in other words, you had no doubt in your mind about the mission. you were committed to that mission. >> well, i think the mission was fubar and how we all think of it first off, but i had no idea any of the gravity of the whole situation behind it. i just knew he went off, and we got tasked to go look for him. david: president trump has called the decision, the sentencing, a disgrace. would you go that that far? >> he says it nicer than i would, but, yes, i would go with that. [laughter] david: what you would say we couldn't put out on this broadcast, in other words. >> oh, absolutely not. david: so despite your deep disappointment with the sentencing, is this an individual that you could ever forgive in your heart, or will you go to your grave wishing him
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the worst? >> yep. i'll go to my grave wishing him the worst. i have a constant reminder every day of him when i, you know, can't do certain things with my hand. i can't, i can't -- how do i say this nicely? i can't correctly clean myself doing certain things, and, you know, that's always going to be permanent. master sergeant allen, that's going to be permanent. he's not going to come back. this is permanent for us. chief petty officer hatch, this is permanent for us. we have these injuries and scars that are always going to be permanent. and yet he's going to be able to walk free? the balance scale seems to be not right.
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david: sergeant morita, thank you so much for talking to us. we really appreciate. we wish you the very best, and we hope that the community of all ex-service people are your support group right now. i'm sure they're helping out. >> yes. fellow comrades, they're -- i've been talking with them, some other fellas too. i do have -- and my family as well. i'm glad i'm alive. i know i'm thankful about it. but the fact remains that i'm in this position because of one person, and now he's technically scot-free. david: understood. sergeant, thank you very much. we appreciate you being hered today. >> you're very welcome. david: god bless. so now we know the terrorist's phone was full of isis propaganda. this guy had videos, pictures, you name it. so is it time for social media companies to help stop it? also, republicans say the
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david: well, we're getting word now of the extent to which the new york city terror suspect had thousands of terror videos or images on his phone, so do social media companies need to do more to help the fight against terror? joining us now is former cia analyst buck sexton and national security expert rebecca hine ricks. good to see -- heinrichs. good to see you both. buck, the devil works in many ways, and he's now he's learned how to use the internet, and i'm wondering if it's too late to turn off that part of it that benefits terrorism. >> often times the initial contact is made on open social media sites, and it's not clear from that contact that there's a
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jihadist intent, never mind the fact that you're talking about a tremendous amount of individuals all over the world, and it's a whole lot of monitoring that would have to be done by any social media platform. but that initial contact is often followed with an end crypted -- encrypted end to end platform that is much harder to monitor and certainly something that they could not just adjust the terms of service and determine they will have teams of people looking at it because it is encrypted. this problem has been around for a while. i don't see any solutions to it in the near term. i think they're just trying to redouble efforts that are, quite honestly, already underway. david: rebecca, a larger point here. do you think that saipov, the terror suspect, would have been radicalizedded even without the internet? >> it's a good point. these would-be terrorists are being persuaded this is the way to go. it's not an easy solution. there needs to be a full
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strategy, a countermessaging strategy to get these vulnerable individuals who are going to be persuaded to radicalize, we need to have better surveillance here in the united states so we can see the sorts of things that are happening where they're becoming radicalized over time. this particular individual had friends and relatives who have now said they saw him being radicalized over the last couple of years. what were those signs? those individuals need to be comfortable going to the authorities so we can catch these individuals before they're full-blown terrorists. david: buck, speaking of surveillance, one of the mosques that this guy attended regularly had been surveilled by the new york city police up until 2014 when a number of lawsuits by folks like the aclu shut down that surveillance system. was that a big mistake, shutting down surveillance of the particular mosque that this guy was in? >> i'm somebody who worked for the nypd intelligence division while that kind of surveillance was ongoing, so i'm quite familiar with it, and there were legal battles specifically around what was allowable, what
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was not. there have been guidelines that were in place for a long time that were specifically intended to protect the first amendment rights of individuals from any community, including the islamic community -- david: but, buck, there must have been a specific reason why that mosque was targeted. they don't just target a mosque without having some kind of evidence that there's something -- >> i actually can't speak to the specifics of that case because i'm not allowed to, but i can speak to the specifics of the realities of what they were doing in the city of new york involving cases like that. it's always around individuals where there is a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, it's done with a lot of legal oversight. and the fact of the matter is that the aclu and mayor bill de blasio decided for reasons of political correctness a program that i think was done well and efficiently and was trying to keep all new yorkers of all backgrounds safe was curtailed. and there are people who are going to be asking the question now could more have been done if we'd taken a more aggressive
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approach specifically with the nypd, and those are valid questions. david: rebecca, when the ira was doing their bombings and their killings back in the '80s and so forth, some of them had connections with local catholic church. some of those catholic churches were surveilled. so the idea that this has never been done before, that it's focused just on islamophobia is wrong, isn't it? >> oh, no, it's totally wrong. listen, all of these islamist terrorists were radicalized in some way either in their mosques, by their family members, online propaganda -- david: by the way, this is a picture of the omar mosque, the one in particular that the new york police had been surveilling, and they had to stop it in 2014. who knows what they could have found. maybe they would have found some evidence against this guy before he killed people, right? >> the best thing they can do, we need law enforcement having good relationships within these communities so that peaceful, pluralistic muslims can, again, they're the ones that are off
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victims of these terrorist activities. they need to feel free to speak with, cooperate, talk to law enforcement so that we can catch these guys before it becomes a major problem. david david right. >> but political correctness will kill us. we can't let that happen. we have to have an honest, rell list aric -- realistic understanding of what the threat is. intelligence is the name of the game, we've got to have it. david: well, buck, now we've got this guy. the question is what we do with him. the president says he's got to be labeled as an enemy combatant. that gets rid of the lawyers that could help him and help his lawyers get hold of evidence that the government might have that might undermine our security, right? >> well, first, it would be unlawful enemy combatant which i think is an important distinction because he's not somebody who was taken off the battlefield fighting in uniform and, yes, you would be able to skip around some of the processes. quite honestly, and i think the administration's come around to this position, it would be a
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quicker process to go through a federal court proceeding with him because we've done this before. we've done it with plenty of very serious terrorism cases in the past. and given that this is a self-radicalized individual, there doesn't seem -- there's no contact with terrorist entities abroad, certainly in person. we haven't seen anything that makes us think he's a treasure-trove of intelligence. so putting him into the federal court system and possibly bringing a death penalty case, that is going to be a quicker process and more likely to get justice. david: rebecca, we've got to go. i'm so sorry. rebecca heinrichs and buck sexton, good to see you both. well, will democrats get onboard with tax cuts now that the top rate on the wealthiest is not being cut? democratic congressman emanuel cleaver is here next. [vo] when it comes to investing,
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david: so democratic leaders are bashing the gop tax plan even though it includes concessions to try to attract democratic support. joining us now is missouri's democrat congressman emanuel cleaver. congressman, great to see you. thank you for coming in, appreciate it. >> good to be here. david: you have an increase in the child tax credit, a doubling in the deductibles for singles and families. the top rate remains the same so the richest folks in america are still going to be paying their 39.5%. a lot of that seemed to be done to kind of attract some moderate democrats. you're kind of a moderate. what do you think? >> well, let me preface my answer to your question by saying that, you know, i think we're making a mistake in congress, and the entire country is participating. and that is when we do these party bills where legislation is drafted without any involvement of the other side and then there
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are no hearings held, simply you mark it up and send it to the floor -- david: by the way, were you critical of the democrats when they did that with obamacare, or some of that? >> yes. i think there were 36 hearings. but, yes, that's what i was about to tell you. i'll criticize my parents if they did it. [laughter] and the reason is, and e said this -- i said this at a democratic caucus meeting the other day, you know, there's something called the theology of the identical harvest, and that is whatever you plant, that's what's going to grow. so if you do something with one party only participating, including the aca, what you're going to have is the just waiting for the chance when they get back in power to undo it. and that's no way to run a government, and that's where we are now. now, having said that, let me say that i think there are some good parts to the legislation -- david: like what specifically?
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>> we do need some -- well, i think, for example, i like the fact that we're going to eliminate the taxes that, what is it, opportunity tax where people historically have to pay $2500 or would pay $2500 -- receive $2500 in tax returns if they pay out of pocket expenses for their child the go to college. the problems are plentiful. one, if you say the tax rate remained at 39%, it did except there was a new road bell -- bill so that major corporations could take advantage of taxes that previously were designed for small businesses. and i think that that is going to hurt us, and that's a particularly strong reason that we're going to have a $1.5
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trillion increase in the federal debt and deficit -- david: but you know what a lot of people would say, congressman, is that it's kind of rich for democrats to be arking that it's going to -- arguing that it's going to increase the debt when it doubled under president obama. we only have 30 seconds. is there anything, how, what is it going to take to get you in this car, you know? what one thing would you like to see the republicans do that might make you sign off on a tax plan? quickly, we only have 30 seconds. >> well, i think the estate tax which is galling to me. i think if they left it as it is now where i think that would be a good point. david: all right. the estate tax. that's one thing, i appreciate it. you did it. congressman, thank you so much. >> yes. david: have a saturday. >> good to be with you. david: coming up in the next hour, ambassador john bolton on what donald trump needs to do as he heads to asia. and the man who killed bin laden, rob o'neill, on deserter
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bowe bergdahl now home free. and new fallout after a twitter employee goes rogue and deletes the president's account for 11 minutes. what should twitter do now? we're back in three minutes. 234-rb ...
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>> after the worst terror attack in new york since 9/11, one lawmaker, christian gillibrand is calling for federal funds for protected barriers on popular areas throughout the united states. tracy is in times square with details. this would mean a lot of extra federal funding. >> absolutely. and david, you know, right now, behind our camera, several dozen n.y.p.d. officers are getting ready to go out on foot patrol. and the n.y.p.d. has one of the largest counterterrorism forces of any police departments in the country. you know, the mayor, mayor bill

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