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>> as special counsel robert mueller wants russia probe now includes tony podesta we are learning his company lob idea for the uranium one deal. >> we need special counsel to investigate the uranium one episode for thousands of dollars former president bill clinton from roots tied to russia. >> for those telling me to shut up, they told hillary that a couple months ago. do you know what i tell them? go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. brian: right to a fox news alert now. it's not good news. the tight knit texas community serving for answers after a gunman in tactical gear turns sunday church services into a blood bath. 26 people dead. 20 others are hurt. including young children. >> it's devastating for us and our community, but god is still in control. steve: after the shooting started, a brave member of the community chased the gunman away from the first baptist church in slandz

before he could kill even more people. police later found the gunman in his car dead after a chase. ainsley: now investigators' want to know why the former gun dig into troubled past. brian: in the military. ainsley: todd piro is in sutherland springs with the details for us. todd: good morning although a somber one. a different picture now. right now the only sounds you hear are the sound of other reporters on scene and those of generators lighting the area behind me here. you can see the church lit behind me. you can also see the tent where investigators are feverishly working to figure out why this happened. last night a vigil was held for the victims killed by 26-year-old devin patrick kelly. authorities say kelly was dressed in a ballistic vest when he arrived at a valero

gas station near the first baptist church around 11:20 a.m. at a news conference last night, officials said he crossed the street to the church and began firing a ruger ar. assault type rifle. kelly then entered the church and fired at worshipers inside. according to the military, kelly, who is believed to live outside of san antonio was in the air force until 2014. he was court martialed in 2012 for assaulting his wife and child. kelly worked as a security guard for texas water park this past summer according to race may under his name that appears online. investigators said kelly did not appear to be connected to any organized terror groups. the governor of texas had this to say on the magnitude of this horrible act. >> as a state, we are dealing with the largest mass shooting in our state's history. the tragedy is worsened that it occurred in a church, a

place of worship. >> one of the victims in this close ni close knit communy the daughter of the church's pastor, a 14-year-old little girl named anna bell. the massacre could have been worse if not for the bravery of two local men who chase after kelly. now, the shooter was found dead. although at this point in time it's unclear if that is a result of fire from police, from one of those two men who chased after him, or if it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound. back to you. steve: all right, todd. thank you very much. he said two men. apparently a neighbor nearby heard the shooting. it was very loud. grabbed his rifle and then went and engaged the guy as he was leaving the church. and then the guy took off in his car. but then he went over to a guy who was sitting in his car, sitting in the truck and he said okay, see that guy right there, he just took off, he just shot a bunch of people inside the church, let's go. ainsley: so they get in his car. they chase this gunman, this alleged gunman.

and eventually, as todd was just saying, the gunman's car goes down over a ravine in a ditch. they held that guy there with the guns until the coming could finally arrive. brian: we don't know how he ultimately lost his life. because so far neither one of them are talking. here is johnny laggendorf. he helped chase down the suspect. >> i pulled up on the intersection and i saw the shooter coming from the cars, actually right outside the church that were parked. his vehicle was parked, door open, engine running, and him and the neighbor across the street were both coming out about the same time exchanging fire. and as he came up, he -- i never got a look at him. i never really saw him. i just -- i saw the gunfire. the shooter got in his truck. the gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefly -- he briefed me quickly on what had just happened and said that we

had to get him. and so that's what i do. we just take pursuit. we speed over 87 through traffic and, like i said, we hit about 95 going down 59 trying to catch this guy. until he eventually lost control on his own and went off in the ditch. he just hurt so many people and he just affected so many people's lives. why wouldn't you want to take him down? steve: absolutely. in fact, the guy with the gun, told the guy who was driving, the guy right there we just saw in the cowboy had. he had one goal, that was to try to get him. we do not know the name of the hero neighbor with the gun, clearly the police are trying to figure out what happened. his name, i would imagine, will be released later today. brian: it's amazing too, if you consider the town is between 600 people. he shot almost 5% of the entire town in that one church. you have to wonder, too. the only thing they put together is that the

mother-in-law's post office box was in that town and we do know in 2012 todd went over he had dishonorable discharge for abuse. this is a behavioral issue. deranged. mental health issue. steve: there's a linked in account that a number of news sources are quoting says that he was a former bible school teacher. he was registered as a security guard at a nearby water park. ainsley: with kids. steve: he had ties to the church through relatives. he did not go to that churn. in fact, according to the daily mail, they talked to some of his classmates from high school. they described him as creepy and crazy and weird. he was an outcast. he preached about atheism. his atheism online before the massacre. he talked about how people who believe in god are stupid. ainsley: among the 26 killed, that 14 little girl that you saw there, the pastor's daughter, a 5-year-old and a pregnant

woman. going back to the politics of it, many people are saying you can't pray for something like this. you're being stupid if you pray if you turn to god. where is god in a situation like this? a lot of celebrities are weighing in on this, too. brian: a lot of people quickly say oh this is an opportunity to push gun control. guns are the problem. the age old debate. chelsea handler who quit being funny before she quit her show. she also decided she is not doing netflix, also no one was watching. she was ahead of netflix late night show and click on when you wanted to and no one decided to. this was an opportunity to tweet this out. innocent people go to church on sunday to honor their god, and while doing so, get shot in killed. what country? america. why? republicans. steve: meanwhile, if you recall, it was just this past week donald trump, the president of the united states, took a lot of criticism because he criticized the terrorists with the home depot truck the day after the guy ran over the people on the west side highway.

that was the day after. because he had said the guy came into the country on the diversity visa program. well, former president barack obama actually weighed in and was political just a number of hours after what happened. he tweeted: may god also grant us all the wisdom to ask what concrete stepping we can do to reduce the violence and weaponry in our midst. reduce the weaponry. in other words, sounds like gun control. ainsley: the president is doing the asia tour. he said it's not about gun control. this is about a deranged individual. this is swuren who he was in the military. people are complaining about his personality. you know, obviously, this guy is not right in the head. in order to be able to do something like, this and walk into a church and take the lives of 26 people, you have to be deranged. steve: he beat his wife and kids. ainsley: right. it's a mental health issue. brian: president trump said this when he was quickly addressing that while he is on this long trip. he came out and addressed

the texas shooting. >> you cannot put into words the pain and grief we all feel and we cannot begin to imagine the suffering of those who lost the ones they so dearly loved. our hearts are broken. but, in dark times. and these are dark times, such as these, americans do what they do best. we pull together. we join hands, we lock arms, and through the tears and through the sadness, we stand strong. oh, so strong. ainsley: you have to think about this issue when you talk about gun control. those two heroes, the guys that chased him. the suspect didn't go on to kill more people. no telling what his plans

were next. he was stopped because of a gunshot. because of a gun. steve: a guy had a gun. ainsley: i do believe though if you do have mental health issues, we do need to look at that you shouldn't have guns. you shouldn't be able to buy them. brian: when you are dishonorablably charged you are not supposed to have a gun. steve: i don't know what it disqualify disqualifies you though. ainsley: how did he get the gun? steve: maybe he bought it legally. brian: tactical gear or off the internet. ainsley: i do believe in the power of prayer two. years ago my little girl was born and that was after a lot of prayers and great gift from god. i know you were born today is your birthday. jackie: yes, it is. ainsley: happy birthday. jackie: good morning to you guys and to you at home. president trump and first lady attending a state banquet with the prime minister. he met with the japanese emperor greeting him with a handshake instead of the

bow. president obama was criticized for bowing nearly to the floor when he met the enper roar. a warm welcome for first lady melania trump from toke co. grade school students there she joined japan's first lady writing the word peace in calligraphy: sergeant first class steven was killed during combat operations in afghanistan. the 33-year-old from california was just weeks into his third deployment. he leaves behind his wife, his high school sweetheart, two young children, just 3 and 5 years old. and turns out senator rand paul's injuries are far worse than we thought after he was attacked by a neighbor outside of his kentucky home. we now know paul suffered five broken ribs. it's unclear when he will be able to return to washington. paul tackled from behind while mowing his lawn by this guy, his accuser. is renee giewcialer. he was very vocal about

anti-republican stance. those are your headlines. back to you guys. steve: tackled by the neighbor. five ribs broken. brian: that's painful. 12 minutes after the hour. ainsley: three police officers battle smoke and flames to save a woman from a burning car. the dramatic rescue caught on camera. steve: donna brazile firing back at her critics. and there are many. >> telling me to shut up. they told hillary that a couple months ago. do you know what i tell them? go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. steve: da 9/1dinesh da souza haa message about her story. brian: he wrote a story about it ♪ louder than a lion ♪ because i am a champion ♪ and you're going to and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™

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♪ ♪ >> i supported hillary, and i wanted her to win. the people who are making the decisions, even for the dnc, they didn't come and work with us. they told us to shut up and basically let them win the elections. ryan brian wow. she was lightening it up yesterday. donna brazile unleashing on fellow democrats. her bombshell revealing how much hold the clinton machine had on the democratic party and they still lost. steve: dinesh da souza filmmaker and author of the "big lie" joins us to weigh in. so many bombshells here.

where do you want to start? >> i will start by it's not what done that brazil said is new. it's insider confirmation of what outsiders have been saying for a long time. so, look at trump. look at the way trump is vindicated in his insinuation that this democratic primary was rigged. steve: he was right. >> it's a pattern. it's almost like trump puts us into his i told you so, i'm right again file. trump says that the media ridicules it. trump proves to be right. brian: arrogance of brooklyn. she talked about being essentially assigned to feeling like a slave. >> now, this is incredible. because this goes beyond the rigging allegation. she is now saying something that, again, many of us have insinuated or suspected, namely that the democratic party operates like a plantation. and they expect people like donna brazile to be oversears or happy slaves on the plantation. if they go out of line. if they sing a different song, they come under fierce attack. and basically donna brazile was saying i'm not taking

it. i'm walking off this plantation. the very language of it, i'm not patsy the slave, i think that was her quote. stunning. brian: it is. >> wind dough into the soul of the democratic party. steve: surely. ultimately, the dnc was in the tank for hillary because she essentially bought and -- bought off the dnc because they needed money. here she is talking about that. >> i raised the money now you got to get sign off from brooklyn. this wasn't a standing joint fundraising agreement. they had a separate memorandum of understanding. and i needed to break that. in order to break it, i would cause a great commotion. so, yeah, i'm not patsy the slave because i got sick and tired of people telling me how to spend money when all i was trying to do. steve: there is that sound bite. >> it's not only startling they had this financial leverage, it's also that donna brazile said she felt fear of the clintons. think about that. i mean, i made a movie about

hillary. i felt fear about the clintons. i never said so. i never hingtsed it. donna brazile says the gives you the idea the clintons are math i can't. run up along them on the wrong side. brian: you go ahead and marginalize donna brazile. and go ahead and marginalize an african-american american leader of the democratic party and tell her she doesn't know what she is talking about. you guys go have have it. >> there is a joint memo saying donna brazile is now repeating rejudge tailgating rea russian line. now they are accusing donna brazile of being a pawn of the russians. steve: quite a book. brian: that is a huge leap, hugest leap yet. dinesh da souza thank you very much. >> my pleasure. steve: coming up on this monday, the democrats say the healthcare plan is going to kill you. isn't obamacare totally collapsing? brian: what's the answer?

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♪ steve: some quick headlines, we start with a fox news alert. first up, a manhunt intensifying for extremely dangerous escaped inmate charged in three murders. antwon adams is believed to be hiding somewhere near memphis, tennessee, after escaping his northern mississippi jail through a plexiglass window in his cell. ironically, that glass was supposed to be replaced with a steel plate later today. and deputy constable is shot six times in the line of duty but is expected to survive. justin gay hit in the leg responding to a domestic dispute in houston, texas.

shots fired when he tried to make an arrest. the suspect is under arrest and is expected to be charged with attempted murder. that's some of the news. head down stairs and over to the doctor. ainsley: thank you so much, steve. the first obamacare open enrollment under the trump administration officially underway that happened on november 1st. democrats pushing the plan despite the law's pending collapse. how could they serve american families better? here to wa weigh in on this is dr. nicole saphier. great to see you, dr. is a fire. what needs to change if you have a message for congress, what is it this morning? >> oh, wow, we don't have that much time so i'm going to keep it short. easy to say no one is really happy with where we are at right now. no more than two years ago. that's because the republicans can't get out of their own way. the democrats are refusing to negotiate with the white house, so president trump said well, i'm just going to do what i can and hasten the collapse of the affordable care act and he has done that by cutting off the cost sharing reductions or bailout some people referred to it. narrowed the open enrollment

period. he isn't advertising for it we may see this week in the tax bill they may be getting rid of the individual mandate. ainsley: there are several insurance companies, more of them. not several seven of them pulling out next year. we have a list. if this is one of your insurance companies we're going to ask you advice. humana, anthem, aetna, molina, blue cross blue shield, optima and medica. who is left? >> you do have united healthcare group a giant. they have markedly increased their premiums deductibles and co-pays. 3 to 5 million americans who lost their employment sponsored plans with the implementation of the affordable care act. they are caught in the crossfire of political warfare right now. these people who do depend on the exchange, they have to search around, shop around in their state exchanges. the cheapest plan isn't necessarily the best plan. you want to find the most value for the dollar.

so considering a silver or gold plan may be better than going for the bronze plans. ainsley: any other advice for the folks in that category because they don't have anywhere else to turn. >> >> it's true and president trump is going to have to hasten the response. the republicans and the democrats are going to have to come together or else we will go into a single pair system. hopefully what i want to see is private and public come together, some catastrophic plans and direct primary care with hsa's. i think if we have healthcare reform, that's our long-term solutions. ainsley: okay. you can enroll with obamacare november 1st through december 15th. it's only six weeks. president obama took to twitter last week on wednesday reminding everyone to sign up because that's his baby. >> if you need insurance, most people know about the open enrollment, people are choosing not to enroll. ainsley: thank you so much. top story, a tiny church community worse mass church shooting in history.

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years ago, when i was pastoring a small town church in west texas, a man stopped. he was going through town, and he asked if he could talk to me. he wanted to tell me about something that had happened to him a few years earlier. in june of 1980, he was in the church service at first baptist church dangerville, texas when a gunman burst through the front door, opened fire on the parishioners, killing five. seated next to this man was his 11-year-old daughter, and he told me watched as the gunman literally blew her face off with a gun blast. you know, he said his faith was shaken but it wasn't destroyed. and you know, when we find ourselves in a situation where we cannot reconcile our faith in god with our circumstances, we have a choice. we can either give up our faith in god, or we can keep trusting god even in the darkness. and when we find ourselves in the darkness, and we can't see god's hands, we can always trust god's

heart. and that's what these church members in sutherland springs are doing right now. they don't understand the why, none of us do. but they trust god's heart. steve: hard to get your head around it. why a loving god would allow something like this to happen. i know you hear that question a lot. >> well, i do. whenever i hear that, i gently remind people what happened 2,000 years ago when god allowed, it was even a part of his plan to allow his own son, jesus christ, to be tortured, to be nailed to a cross. and you know, on friday afternoon, when jesus was buried, it looked like evil had triumphed over good. but three days later, from the perspective of an empty tomb, it was assured that good would triumph over evil. what i would say about this tragedy is, the final chapter has not yet been revealed. i think good will triumph over evil. brian: on that note, we just found out that the whole shooting was caught on tape. they were rolling inside the church.

we'll be able to see that to some degree, i imagine, shortly. meanwhile, people are saying let's think practically. what about security? you have security in your church. what about smaller churches? what could they possibly do? if you want to volunteer as an usher. should you also volunteer as a security guard? >> yes. i think what we're finding from this example is, perhaps, smaller churches may even be more of a target than larger churches like mine. and, look, you don't have to have a lot of money to do something. you can go to your local police department and ask them to do a threat assessment of your church. you can have an evacuation plan. you can enlist volunteers to serve as security watchers during the services. you can have common sense policies like we do of not allowing backpacks into the sanctuary. i mean, this is the world we're living in. we need to do everything we can to keep our parishioners safe but overall we can't be

paralyzed by fear. god hasn't given us a spirit of fear. ainsley: pastor jeffress, what's the definition of faith? and how do you teach parishioners who have faith? >> faith is believing that god is going to do what he has promised to do. and in this situation, look, evil is real, it's painful, the bible never diminishes that but faith means believing that one day god is going to overcome evil. and that's the hope of every christian. when christ returns, evil will be defeated forever. steve: pastor, i heard one report that there were a number of people in the church but didn't have the guns with them because out of respect for the fact that they were going in a church they left their guns in their car. is that common? >> >> it's certainly not common in our church. i would say a quarter to half of our members are conceal carry. they have guns. steve: they bring them into the church with them. >> they bring them into the church with them. ainsley: probably makes you feel safer. brian: yeah. >> i think it does.

i think, look, if somebody tries that in our church, they may get one shot off, or two shots off, but that's it. and that's the last thing they will ever do in this life. brian: let's see those guys are cowards. they don't like when people don't shoot back. they like to hit defenseless people. that won't be the case anymore. thanks so much, referenced, pastor. >> thank you. ainsley: jackie has headlines for us. jackie: let's get to headlines after months of investigating the alleged collusion between trump campaign and russia, still have zero evidence this morning. dianne feinstein admitting the probe has hit a dead end. >> have you seen any evidence that this dirt, these emails were ever given to the trump campaign? >> not so far. >> not so far. have you seen any communications that suggested that the trump campaign wanted them to release them through a different means because obviously they were ultimately released by wikileaks? >> no, i have not. jackie: president trump has

denied knowing any connections between his campaign and russians. and the nypd's former top cop issuing a grim warning days after a deadly terror attack in new york city. >> it is the type of thing that is so easy to do but, the islamic radicals that unfortunately we're going to see more of it. this is the reality that we're going to have to live with. jackie: uzbek man inspired by isis into a bike path on halloween. 8 people are dead. dramatic body cam capturing the moment three police officers pull unconscious woman from her burning car. look at this. you can see the texas officers draggings woman through an open window after she crashed her car into a telephone pole, thankfully she will be okay. all three officers will be honored for their actions as they should be. and the nfl national anthem protest has a legendary sportscaster tuning out. listen to this.

>> out of overwhelming respect and admiration for anyone who puts on a uniform and goes to war. so, the only thing i can do in my little way is not to preach, i will never watch another nfl game. [applause] jackie: legendary vin skully's comments come after they refuse to stop their protest during national anthem. raise their fist, kneeling and stay not guilty locker room during the national anthem. good for him. not doing it anymore. no more games. steve: thank you very much. brian: we mentioned before that we do there is a tape of the entire shooting that we understand that the church rolled on it. so that was -- that has nothing to do with that picture. steve: that's tony podesta. brian: we can stop showing those pictures for a second. there is even more information on the shooting. steve: there is. apparently now they are able to determine that the shooter did not die from a

shot from the good samaritan apparently it was self-inflicted. and keep in mind, after the car crashed, the they found a number of guns inside the vehicle. brian: doesn't diminish the courage of those who pursued him. ainsley: no way. they do roll on the sunday services every sunday. so we have video of last sunday and we're going to show you that later on in the newscast. but they have recovered the tapes from yesterday's shooting as well. i'm sure it's going to be very limited what we can see but at least it will help with the investigation. steve: yeah, i don't know if we will be able to see it any time soon but there is video. meanwhile, coming up, a new bombshell about the guy you just saw, that guy right there, tony podesta and that russian uranium deal. and this one could get robert mueller's attention. brian: hope. so unemployment is at 17 year low. the stock market is booming. how do we keep this economic surge going? stuart varney here to discuss. steve: good morning. ♪ like the ceiling can't hold us ♪ like the ceiling can't

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brian: quick headlines now. so glad you're up. it's monday. we're now learning that tony podesta's company pushed for the uranium one deal. is this unbelievable? this according to the daily caller. the brother of clinton campaign chair john podesta not pictured here, did not file, as a foreign agent while lobbying for the russian's own company from 2012 to 2015, the 2010 uranium one sale is currently the focus of several congressional committee investigations. my head is spinning. and jury deliberations affected today in senator bob menendez's corruption trial. you haven't heard much about that you have. accused taking bribes from florida doctor in exchange for political favors. both men have already pled not guilty. that's them walking.

president trump making america work again. the u.s. economy adding 261,000 jobs last month alone. steve: a very proud president tweeting this weekend unemployment is down to 4.1%. lowest in 17 years. 1.5 million new jobs since i took office. highest stock market ever up $5.4 trillion. brian: here to react surprisingly good mood today varney and company the host of that show stuart varney. good morning, stuart. >> good morning, brian. brian: good to see you. >> yes, sir. brian: numbers are good for the president. is that good for you as somebody who sits on the sideline and analyzes? >> sits on the sideline, okay, look, it's a strong economy. the economy is growing. jobs are coming back. the stock market at an all-time high. mortgage rates still at historically low levels, below 4%. but if you think that this republican tax plan is going to grow the economy 4%. if you really think that it's going to be a big addition to our growth in america, i think you're going to be sadly, sadly

disappointed. steve: why is that? >> because, the people who pay ou out the individuals who pay most of the tax now, will pay even more if this tax plan goes through. there is no cut in the tax rate paid by the top 1%. there is a big cut in the deductions which richer people are allowed to deduct. steve: stuart, we had both kevin brady and kevin mccarthy on this program on friday, and they both said nobody's taxes are going to go up. >> well, taxes, tax rates, that's true. nobody's tax rate goes up. but overall, the amount of money paid by high income earns will go up. that's because the deductions go away. ainsley: do you think he will veto it? because he ran on the facts that you will of a the rates were going to be lower. >> i think that president trump's base will be the primary beneficiaries from this tax plan as it now emerges. because on the business side, the business tax cuts, there will be more jobs and more investment, that will help middle class people. and there will be a doubling

in the standard deduction, that helps middle class people. so that is appeals to mr. trump's base. they will approve of this i'm sure. ainsley: what does it mean to you where we are seeing rebounds in the food service industry. drinking establishments and manufacturers? >> that was largely the drinking establishments, especially, that was a rebound from the hurricane effect. maybe they are drinking more, i don't know. brian: we can all afford the cover insurance to go to the clubs that we always wanted to go to because we have more cash in our pocket. stuart, one thing you are paying attention to the corporate rate cut considerablably. wouldn't that benefit those running those companies? >> it benefits people who invest in those companies because the stock market will probably stay strong with those business tax rate cuts. that is true. and it probably will stimulate the economy for a little bit more growth. brian: it's not going to get to 4%. we are not going to get to 4% with this plan?

>> i don't want to make that rash prediction. i don't think this plan, as stands, especially because wealthier, you were income people will pay more, i don't think it's going to grow the economy 4%. you may add a half point to g.d.p. i think that's it. but that's my opinion. steve: but what the president has said is this will streamline and simplify the process, you know, you can fill out your taxes on a piece of paper that big. but it will also grow more jobs. if it does reduce the corporate rate, that's going to -- you know, the companies to hire more people. unfortunately, according to your plan, the people who run the company is going to pay more. >> let me summarize it like this. the economy will grow but not as much as we hoped for when we originally went in to the idea of cutting taxes. brian: the thing that bothers me about the numbers that have come out that aren't getting played is the labor participation rate. it's still just above 60 and it's not going up. we need more people in the game. >> yes, we do. this tax package will help that. but i'm saying, look, if you think this is going to go to

4% or 5% because we are going to do this tax package, i say think again. ainsley: what would you change in the tax package. >> people who pay the taxes now, top 1%, should get a cut in their tax rate. they should pay less. that stimulates the economy far more. steve: yeah, but stuart you know that is political suicide. because if it looks like the fat cats are getting a tax break, look what you're doing because that's a page out of the democratic playbook right now. >> i think it's because of these arcane senate rules which say you cannot cut more than $1.5 trillion over 10 years. if do you that you have got to get 60 vote in the senate for the tax package and you will never get 60 votes. have you got to go with 50 votes. therefore you have to restrict the amount of stimulus. i think that undoes the whole thing in my opinion. brian: we will hear mother of that on your show varney and company starring you stuart varney from 9 to noon. >> excellent, brian. i couldn't have said it better myself.

brian: i will read the tease now. president trump dealing with tragedy at home while in asia talking trade in north korea. we are live in tokyo top of the hour. ainsley: brian is just jealous, stuart. brian: i am. ainsley: he wants his own show. usually tossing to reporters. but today arthel neville is tossing pizza. i hear it's healthy, arthel. steve: the secret is the crust. ainsley: cooking with friends ♪ ladies night ♪ single satisfied. satisfied. and always working to be better. here's the story of green mountain coffee roasters sumatra reserve. let's go to sumatra. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee.

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friends. brian: all right, here making her cauliflower crust pie. along with jean david. >> good morning, nice to see you guys. steve: what is this all about. >> jean is the qui. swapping carbs for cauliflower if you are trying to take bread and carbs out of your diet. >> it tastes good. few ingredients. >> just three incents, cauliflower parm subpoena and egg egg. ainsley: a lot of labor. >> we can buy it online. we also are in retail stores. whole foods all the way to louisiana. not just not on the east coast yet.

steve: outer aisle that's the way you are supposed to shop. brian: exactly. >> the sandwich part there, the little sandwich buns, it's great the other day jean and were out for breakfast. she winshe whips out her purse. instead of eating the toast we ate that. >> toss the bun. brian: show us how to get pizza back in our diet. steve: making a pesto pizza. >> it comes like. this comes with the pizza crust. all you do is top it. arthel lost peperoni, i love a basic pesto with spinach and pine nuts. brian: you make this for eric every weekend. >> i do. as a matter of fact he had three of these yesterday because he was working long hours. steve: he made them for her. >> joel. >> i never met joel.

>> joel, meet brian. ainsley: a few years ago you couldn't go in italian restaurant. steve: you know what. >> swapping out the italian chicken sausage. ainsley: do you know what i love about it? do you like it, steve? tell us. good? steve: you know what? that is good. then again there is a lot of peperoni and cheese on it, too. >> that's the thing though, even though they you are getting the fun flavors of the cheese and peperoni, the basis of the crust you are getting good stuff. steve: i have had a cauliflower crust before from another store that was not this good. i like that it's thin. >> full of carbs. >> i had the one steve had and i didn't like it. i like this one. brian: pizza, chef boyardee. this is so much better. >> just say no to that.

steve: i like this better. >> last time you made a pizza you made a phone call. >> 1-800-arthel now. steve: if people are watching right now and would like to go ahead and order your outer aisle crust. how do they do that? >> they can order it online at www.outer aisle gourmet.com or get it in stores. we are over on the west coast. we are in lots of stores all the way to louisiana, whole food stores. brian: just drive and ask. >> outer aisle to the come or outer aisle gourmet.com. >> it's on the screen properly. brian: not only finish each other's sentences you also have the same sitters. >> do you know why? we want to all girl's catholic high school we are used to dressing in uniform. ainsley: brian doesn't know the difference between a crew neck and turtle neck. he thinks they are the same. >> thank you, guys. >> thank you. steve: coming up on this very busy monday, our continuing coverage of the

tragic texas shooting with counselor to the president kellyanne conway. also, texas governor greg abbott and dan bongino, you are watching "fox & friends."

bine brian tight knit texas community searching for answers after a gunman in tactical gear turns sunday church services into a blood bath. >> through the tears and through the sadness, we stand strong. >> this is the deadliest church shooting in the united states in almost 20 years. >> today's tragedy is every pastor's worst nightmare. >> overnight, a commander-in-chief holding a joint press conference with the country's prime minister before the state dinner. >> the overarching issue here in this asia trip is north korea. >> in an era of strategic patience is over. >> i supported hillary, and i wanted her to win. i was under tremendous precious. >> it's not that what donna

brazile is new but it's insider confirmation of what outsiders have been saying for a long time. >> basically donna brazile was saying i'm not taking it? >> for those telling me to shut up, they told hillary that a couple months ago. do you know way tell them? go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. steve: right to a fox news alert and a different story. a man, a gunman in tactical gear yesterday, turned a sunday morning church service into a blood bath. we're now learning that the shooting that killed 26 parishioners in a small texas town caught on camera inside the church where they werthey roll on the sermon every week. ainsley: video shows the gunman shooting everywhere without a specific target. they also believe former airmen devin kelly, there is his picture died of a self-inplaintiff's exhibit froself-inflicted gunshot

wound. brian: authorities want to know the motive behind the shooting as they dig into his troubled past. steve: todd piro is in sland texas with the very latest this morning, todd? >> thank you, steve, ainsly, and brian, as the hours pass 19 since the massacre. humanity of it all is coming into focus. a cool bus drove by our live location here in what is sure to be a not normal monday morning for students here in this tight knit community. we're also learning a lot more about the victims. some reports say one family, eight people among the 26 killed in this horrific, horrific act. also, we are getting reports that one of the victims in this close knit community of less than 1,000 people is the daughter of the church's pastor, a 14-year-old named anna bell. last night a vigil was held for the victims killed by 26-year-old devin patrick kelley. authorities saying kelley was dressed in black

tactical gear wearing a ballistic vest. at a news conference last night news officials say he crossed the street to the church and began firing a ruger a.r. assault type rifle. kelle yrmt entered the church area and randomly fired at worshipers inside and outside. kelley believed to live outside of san antonio was in the air force until 2014. court martialled in 2012 for assaulting his wife and child. he worked as security guard for texas water park this past summer. investigators say kelley did not appear to be connected to any organized terror group. we caught up with the sheriff of this county just moments ago and asked him about any clue as to a motive. >> right now we don't have a motive. some have said things on social media. but right now we just don't

have a motive. >> authorities say the massacre could have been much worse if not for the bravery of two local men who chased after kelley. he was later found dead in his car. the sheriff telling fox moments ago that it was because of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. steve: thank you todd very much. it's interesting what todd said. he said even though that one family seemed to be singled out and everybody in the family was killed in the pews, they have no evidence having looked at the video that he was targeting any particular people. it seems to be just one of those random, awful things. ainsley: that little girl, the 14-year-old, her dad is the pastor. the dad and mom were out of town at the time. she must have just been there with a family member or with a friend. brian: right. so, meanwhile, this is what happened. this guy could have killed more people. he definitely wanted to survive. he definitely had a get away plan. he didn't count on people tracking him. when the shots rang out, evidently one of the neighbors sprang into action. they hopped in a car with

another guy together and chased the suspect. listen to john lagendorff he helped chase down the killer who would later kill himself. >> i pulled up on the intersection and i saw the shooter coming from the cars, actually right outside of church that were parked. his vehicle was parked, door open, engine running and him and the neighbor across the street were both coming out about the same time, exchanging fire. as he came up, i never got a look at him. i never really saw him. i just -- i saw the gunfire. the shooter got in his truck. the gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off and he briefly -- he briefed me quickly on what had just happened and said that we had to get him. and so that's what i did. we just take pursuit. we speed over 87 through traffic, and we -- like i

said, we hit about 95 going down 539 trying to catch this guy. until he eventually lost control on his own and went off in the ditch. he just hurt so many people. and he just affected so many people's lives. why wouldn't you want to take him down? ainsley: that guy right there, johnny and his girlfriend summer were just sitting at that intersection. the neighbor comes out with his rifle and says let's go. i'm jumping in your car and we are going to get that guy. that neighbor has not yet come out. we haven't talked to him. we don't know his name yet. is he a hero. steve: that's exactly right. when the cops eventually got there and those two, the hero who has not been identified and the guy in the cowboy hat right there, they stayed with the guy who was apparently dead behind the wheel and when the cops arrived, they didn't know whether or not the good samaritan who had fired at him at the church had killed him because there was gunshot wound or he had killed himself because there were a number of guns in the car. now the police are saying they believe that he died of

self-inflicted gunshot wound. brian: keep in mind, too. he had more guns. he was going to inflict more damage. he wanted to get away. he wasn't one of those guys who wants to kill you and kill himself. it looks like he thought i'm going to spend my life in prison or kill myself. we're going to find out. we do know is he a veteran. air force dishonorablably discharged in 2012. when you are doing that you are not allowed to carry a gun. he was. meanwhile, also breaking right now, the president denouncing the texas massacre calling it a horrible act of evil on his trip to japan. ainsley: the commander-in-chief sending thoughts and prayers back here back home ahead of tough talks with the prime minister on north korea and on trade. steve: kevin corke joins us now. he is live in tokyo on the latest. kevin? >> hey, guys. we're going to talk about that texas shooting in just a moment but, first, ever the deal maker. the president talking about north korea. suggesting that the japanese could shoot north korean missiles right out of the sky if they simply purchased a u.s. weaponry needed to do. so suggesting tokyo take a stance at least to this

point had this h. elected not to do. it's been that kind of trip for the president already. by the way, though comments seen by some as the sort of rhetoric that's kind of frayed nerves here on the peninsula. but it is part of the president's tragedy to show strength in the face of a regional menace. >> the united states of america stands in solidarity with the people of japan against the north korean menace. history has proven over and over that strong and free nation also always prevail over tyrants who oppress their people. >> the president also met with japanese nationals whose family members were kidnapped by the rogue regime. just another example of the devastating disruptive behavior by pyongyang. also, the president, as you pointed out, expressing his condolences on behalf of the white house and the entire american family in the wake of the devastating massacre in texas. but he also waited a bit into the unevident tillable gun control debate which is to follow. >> i think that mental

health is your problem here. this was a very, based on preliminary reports, very deranged individual. a lot of problems over a long period of time. we have a lot of mental health problems in our country as do other countries. but, this isn't a guns situation. >> not a gun situation. south korea, of course, next up for the president as he continues his tour through asia. of course, we will have the very latest. for now guys, back to you. steve: kevin, south korea on the agenda next. there was some suggestion about a week or so ago that the president might go to the dmz, the area between north and south korea. and after the suggestion was made public, suddenly the white house goes, you know what? we're probably not going to do that. is there still an opportunity, a possibility he might go to the dmz? >> unlikely. the suggestion was it's a little bit cliche, right? it's been done before. as i think have you accurately pointed out, i

think he would have loved to have done that and may still do. so at least right now, the official word is it's not going to happen on this trip, guys. steve: live from tokyo, kevin corke. thank you very much. ainsley: thanks, kevin. hand it over to jackie who has headlines for us. >> good morning to everyone at home watches you here. a fox news alert. the pentagon releasing the name of the american hero who lost his life in the fight overseas. sergeant first class steven was killed in combat operations in afghanistan. the 33-year-old from california was just weeks into his third deployment. he leaves behind his wife, which was his high school sweetheart and two young children. a 3 and a 5-year-old. also breaking right now, a a manhunt intensifying for extremely dangerous escaped inmate charged in three murders antwon adams. you see him right there. is believed to be hiding near memphis after escaping his northern mississippi jail through a plexiglass window in his cell. listen to this. he stuffed pillows under his blanket to make it look like he was in there sleeping.

ironically, that window was supposed to be replaced with a steel plate today. he escaped once before. that was back in august. all eyes turning to virginia and its gubernatorial race. today is the final day of campaigning for republican ed gillespie and democrat ralph northham before tomorrow's election. polls show a tight race between the two. democrats have come under fire after anti-gillespie an ad showing a man in a pickup truck chasing down minority children. back to you guys. brian: whait would be incredible if republicans were able to pull that off. 11 minutes after the hour. gun control after the texas church shooting. ken paxton says more guns can actually prevent mass shootings. he joins us later to explain. steve: he's up next. donna brazile has a message for her critics. >> those who are telling me to shut up. they told hillary that a couple of months ago.

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brian: american nowrng many degrees right now as texas reels from the deadliest church shooting in u.s.

history. that's not stopping democrats from pushing gun control among them former president obama tweeting this may god grant us all the wisdom to ask what concrete steps we can take to reduce the violence and weaponry in our midst. next guest argues more guns would actually prevent more massacres from taking place in the first place. here to explain ken paxton. what a series of months and major stories that have come across your desk of late. but this one no one was expecting. what is your reaction to the fact that senator blumenthal and former president obama are weighing in about guns here? >> well, look, you know, there are laws against murder and this guy violated the laws against murder. adding some other gun law would not, i don't think in any way change this guy's behavior. it's not clear to me that he wasn't already prevented from having a gun, given his history in the military. so, you know, what ultimately may have saved some lives is two people that were outside the church that actually had guns that may have slowed this guy down and actually pursued

him. i would rather arm law-abiding citizen and make sure they can prevent this from happening as opposed to trying to pass laws that would prevent law-abiding citizen from having guns. brian: ongoing investigation. you have been briefed to a higher level than the media. tell us what you can. why do you think this gunman is connected to that church, that town? >> you know, i'm not so sure-though is speculation. i'm not so sure that he is connected to that church or this town. i think he picked out a place outside of where there might have been local police and where it might have taken first responders a longer time to get there and so, i think that's the reason he chose that spot. now, we don't know for sure yet. obviously, the guy is deceased. but my guess is that's why he chose that location. brian: so when we notice in this case it doesn't seem like anybody on the inside had guns. is that an unsaid texas rule you can carry guns but just don't bring it to church? >> you know, it's in texas you have to post if you are a church telling people not

to carry guns otherwise you could carry a gun. i think we need to look at that we need to have churches, schools, businesses start thinking about their policies because obviously we can't have first responders in every location. they need to think about whether they want private security or whether they want to make sure that some of their own people are armed to prevent this from happening again. brian: so we understand this about the shooter. he was in the air force. kicked out of the air force, dishonorable discharge. one of the reasons given was because domestic abuse not only on his wife but on his kid. what else can you tell us about him? >> i don't think we know a whole lot more. i think he obviously clearly a very evil man. i think we are going to find out more things about him in the future. but right now it's speculation and it's obviously the fact that he is deceased makes it a little harder to find out what this guy was all about. but i think we are going to find out more from people that knew him what he was really all about. brian: will you see the tape of the massacre which we understand the church was

rolling on this? >> yeah. i certainly hope. so you know, we have federal authorities, state authorities and local authorities. my office comes in if we are asked to come in. we typically are involved in potentially prosecuting if the person wasn't deceased. obviously there would have to be other people involved. we also have a crime cripple fund so that we get involved in compensating victims of crime. brian: do we know if he had any accomplices? can we rule that out? >> i don't know that we can rule that out at this time. at this point i don't think we think he had any accomplices, but i don't think we're necessarily ruling that out. brian: attorney general ken paxton, thanks so much. >> thank you have a great day. keep us in your prayers. brian: you got it 19 minutes after the hour. prayers pouring in around the country for those victims in texas. our next guest offering a message of hope using inspiration from the bible. we'll explain.

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♪ ♪ brian: all right. some political head lines now. let's get started. wisconsin governor scott walker thinking about a third term for office as governor of that state. the republican and former presidential candidate vowing to battle big government and special interests hence the posters. there is no clear democratic opponent. i will start talkin walking now. mark cuban presidential run. i will pause. >> thinking quite a bit. would i do it? i would say right now it's 10%. what holds me back more than anything is my family. brian: unpause. cuban telling "fox news sunday" the holding him back. vocal critic of president trump. >> now let's go over the railing and down to two other people.

steve: all right, brian. a fox news alert. a small texas church, the scene of the deadliest shooting in texas state history. at least 26 people are dead after a gun map sprayed bullets inside the church during 11:00 a.m. sunday service. president trump offering a message of hope from tokyo. >> we join hands, we lock arms. and through the tears and through the sadness, we stand strong. o so strong. ainsley: our next guest, also has a message for the victims. they just wrote a book on faith and the bible. and today share their message as the nation is grieving. we welcome steve and jackie green. there is their book that comes out tomorrow. it's called "this dangerous book because the atheists say that the bible is dangerous. you say it is dangerous. they are the founders of the museum of the bible which opens, when does that open? >> november 18th. ainsley: thank you for that i cannot wait to visit.

i hear it's wonderful. a few of our reporters have gotten a sneak peek inside. thanks for joining us. congratulations on that and congratulations on the book. jackie, i will start with you. why did you name it "this dangerous book." >> we felt like you said the atheist would say it's a dangerous book. something if you really apply the principles of the bible to your life, you may need to change your life. and for some that's difficult. and we also know that there are many people that have given their lives for the sake of the bible in translating it and transmitting it and each today risk their lives by even owning a bible in some countries. steve: well, given the news of the day and how this gunman walked into the church yesterday down in slunsutherland springs texas and killed 26 people. people turn to the bible for some sort of solace. how can a loving god have allowed something like this to happen? >> we do live in a time

where evil exists. and that's really nothing new. evil has always existed. and this book really talks about, the bible really talks about how that evil exists in the world. and it gives solutions to the evil that exists. we have a loving god that has given us choice. and sometimes we make wrong choices. steve: but sometimes, you know, you hope that as a believer you're almost protected by god. >> well, scripture gives us great comfort. there system times we can go to the scripture. and when it talks about the evil in this world that we have a loving god that loves us and gives us answers to all the challenges and problems that we have in this world. we just want to direct people and point people to the book. that's what we do in our book. is just encourage people to consider this book for themselves. ainsley: jackie, i know when the producers were talking to you over the weekend about coming on this show today. you gave them a scripture near and dear to your heart. the lord is near to the broken hearted and save the crushed in spirit. why did you pick that verse? >> i know that there are

many broken-hearted people today. nothing that we say today will make them feel better. they are hurting. they are broken hearted. but there is comfort to be found in the scriptures that hopefully will bring them some comfort and peace. in this difficult time. steve: steve, why has your family dedicated their lives to the bible? >> we grew up with this book as a guide to our life. in our family we would regularly go to church and principles from this book. our business we built on the. steve: your business is hobby lobby. >> our business is hobby lobby. principles they found in this book. the idea that all men are created equal our founders got from the bible. so we have been blessed in many ways from this book and that's why we want to encourage people to consider it and why we wrote the book. ainsley: a passage from the book that we wanted to read says our story is your story. it's the nation's story. we have found what men, like george washington and john adams discovered the bible

is more than an ancient artifact. its voice possesses the power to shape the world for good. what do you mean by that? >> well, this book, the bible, has impacted our world. life magazine in the year 2,000 came out with a publication the 100 most impactful events of a millennium number 100 on their list guteenberg bible being printed on the press. people don't understand the how it's impacted their life it has impacted our life. it's impacted everybody's life whether they know it or not. it's foundational to this government. it's been an impact that we just think people ought to know it better. steve: well, you've got a brand new book out. it's called this dangerous book, how the bible has shaped our world and why it still matters today and the bible museum down in our nation's capital. opening soon. steve and jackie green, thank you so much for being with us today. >> thank you. >> thank you. ainsley: you are welcome any time. god bless you both. >> thank you. ainsley: how will the white house react to the tragedy

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see how we can serve. this community is rallying around these folks. brian: there you see it. some of the ipses and some of those people in the town talking about the aftermath of the church shooting and we are back with a fox news alert. a tight knit community is searching for answers at this hour after gunman in tactical gear turns sunday church services into a booed bld bath. we are now learning the services was caught on

camera. steve: they have cameras inside the church. the church rock rolling on the sermon. they do it every week. similar to when they took this video. this was just two weeks ago. investigators searching at this hour for a motive. the wilson county, texas sheriff tells fox news he believes the shooter's in-law's attended the church but were not there yesterday morning. ainsley: former airman kevin kelley found dead in his car after being chased away from the church by a brave neighbor. police believe he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. the president has made comments on his asia trip about this saying he is keeping the families in his prayers. we have the counselor to the president kellyanne conway coming up. but, first, we will hand it over to jackie who has some more headlines for us. jackie: good morning to everyone at home. after months of investigating alleged collusion between the trump campaign and russia. democrats still have zero evidence this morning. senator dianne feinstein admitting the probe has hit a dead end. listen.

>> have you seen any evidence that this dirt, these emails were ever given to the trump campaign? >> not so far. >> not so far. have you ever seen -- have you seen any communications that suggest that the trump campaign wanted them to release them through a different means because obviously they were ultimately released by wikileaks? >> no, i have not. jackie: president trump has denied knowing of any connections between his campaign and the russians. the nypd's former top cop issuing a grim warning days after a deadly terror attack right here in new york city. >> it is the type of thing that is so easy to do by these islamic radicals that unfortunately we are going to see more of it. this is a reality that we're going to have to live with. jackie: an uzbek man inspired by isis accused of ramming a truck into pedestrians on a bike path on halloween. eight people are dead. dramatic body camera video capturing the exact moment three heroic police officers

pull unconscious woman from her burning car. you can see the texas officers drag the woman through an open window after she crashed her car into a telephone pole. thankfully she will be okay, we're told. all three officers will be honored for their actions. and the nfl national anthem protest says the legendary sports broadcaster tuning out. >> out of overwhelming respect and admiration for anyone who puts on a uniform and goes to war. so, the only thing i can do in my little way is not to preach, i will never watch another nfl game. [cheers and applause] jackie: strong words there vin scully's comes as 8 players protest. seen kneeling, raising their fist or staying in the locker room during the national anthem. and those are your headlines. steve: that's right. all right, jackie. thank you very much. and vin scully. >> said he was in the navy

for a year i didn't go anywhere. i didn't do anything. i respect the flag that's why i can never ever watch the nfl again. brian: for the most part, this is lessening, for some reason seven new orleans saints took a knee over the weekend. one new york giant. i think a couple of philadelphia eagles with their fist in the air. i don't know what they are doing. ainsley: i have heard from some people that they are not watching anymore. they decided to you turn the tv off. they have become saturday pan fans. brian: talked to people all across the country they all have the same answer. steve: this weekend is the weekend close toast veterans day and there is an organized effort to have people boycott going to the game even if you have got tickets. and things like that. anyway, it's 24 minutes before the top of the hour. kellyanne conway has been a little delayed. we hoped to talk to her on the other side of a quick time-out. you are watching "fox & friends" live from new york city and soon washington.

♪ steve: all right. a fox news alert. we're talking about the worst shooting -- mass shooting in texas state

history. kellyanne conway the counselor to the president is joining us from the north lawn. kellyanne, we have heard from texas authorities and so far it sounds like theres is no connection to terror. is that what you understand? >> that's right. that's the briefing we have had here at the white house as well. no connection, obviously, as you have been reporting and others all morning this is a person who was dishonorablably discharged and had assault charges against him, against his spouse and his child and we just, as everyone has said, there is evil among us and as the president has said, we lock arms and through the tears we come together. ainsley: the president said this guy was deranged. this is about mental health, it's not about gun control. liberals, of course, are making it about gun control. chelsea handler says innocent people go to church on sunday to honor their god. and while doing so get shot and killed. what country? america, why? republicans she says.

what's your response? >> i won't even dignify it i'm sorry that we even have to show her twitter comments because it's so beyond any type of reasonable response that anyone should have. why people see politics immediately. it's just like i said in las vegas over a month ago. you had families literally still looking for their loved ones through the rubbles in remains in las vegas running from hospital to hospital. there were people who were were injured who went on to pass await a minute yet, people are taking to twitter in the comfort of their very luxurious lives pointing fingers. as far as can i tell never really help in between the tweet storms. never really helped charities. never helped people to heal. never try to reach across for understanding. so, i'm very happy at times like this that president trump is our commander-in-chief and our leader in this nation because, unfortunately, every president has to help heal the nations at different times, different tragedies. but the rush to judgment, particularly by people who are just see politics and

trump derangement in every single thing they do it doesn't help the victims and disrespectful to the dead. brian: kellyanne, other things, focus on the president's trip if we could, longest in 25 years by a sitting president over to asia. one thing is he going to could is talk to south korea and going to be talking to china, one theme will be consistent it will be about north korea. is the president concerned at all that south korea and china are getting close and didn't check in with us first before reaffirming those ties between each other after icing each other out because of the installation of thad missile program. >> brian, look, part of what the president is doing on this historic trip is building on the successes thus far in his administration. it's not like this is the first time he is interfacing with south korea or with china for that matter. he has been developing these relationships over the course of real lit last year since he was elected and certainly since he took up job and residence here. so he is building on that. one of the five major goals of this trip for the

president is denuclearizing north korea. and that happens with china and south korea's help. also, he has trade very much on his mind. he wants to have a very pro-commitment to asia, obviously, into the pacific, but he is really building on his successes so far. this president is never far from his domestic agenda priorities either when he is abroad. i would say and i have told him many times a great american of how successful his foreign trips have been to date and there have been many, is that the media basically stopped covering those trips the moment air force one touches down at andrew's. you know it was a success. they don't talk about them again. this is the president very publicly giving addresses, meeting with folks. that's something he is not backing down from inbounds trade deals and from denuclearized north korea. steve: speaking of the trade deals, i understand earlier there in japan, the president was talking a little bit with the prime minister there about a big

defense contract. right? >> those are the reports. and some of that is public. some of those conversations -- many of those conversations, obviously, are private. but, again, it builds on what's been happening. and it's also just a prelude to what will continue to happen. and this is a president, whether he is here or abroad, constantly talking up the domestic agenda items that got him elected in the first place, which is to be more fair to the american worker and to be more fair to the american job creator. so, when you take together trade deals, you talk about that the tax cuts package he is putting forward. you look at all the regulations that have gone away through his pen and through some legislation, you start to see knitted together an economic agenda strong domestic little and shows the world this is a president who stands first and foremost for the american worker and job maker.

ainsley: i know he is going to be sitting down with vladimir putin thursday in vietnam. what can we expect out of that meeting, kellyanne. >> can you expect guessing and hand ringing by the media. he and president putin sat down three or four times the length that quote, was expected. i don't know who is expecting. they keep expecting things out of trump out of trump that are conventional and truly disappointed. i think they will continue the conversation. obviously president trump has said for a very long time that if there are big issues on which he can work with russia, particularly keeping isis on full on retreat he will do that it's very important to discuss and engage each other. i'm very happy that that was able to be audited to the agenda for this 13-day trip. brian: had you your own sunday show to go on but donna brazile chose to go on "this week with george stephanopoulos." i wanted to get reaction

about her statement in her book that talks about division between democratic party and hillary clinton's camp and how she was treated. listen. >> for those who are telling me to shut up, they told hillary that a couple months ago. do you know what i tell them? go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. i am going to tell my story, george. i say go to hell because why am i supposed to be the only person that is unable to tell my story? brian: there are so many things that she brought up. one of which was that hillary clinton, she was contemplating replacing hillary clinton after her 9/11 wobble. the rick lesson that you reported on. did you guys hear about that? did you hear about her condition and did you hear about a possible last minute swap? >> we had never heard of that. i don't think it would have mattered because president trump just had the more economically optimistic message and was a natural connector to folks and nothing that biden and booker, the alleged dynamic duo that was going to replace the very uninspiring

clinton/kaine ticket. we never heard about that. i want to say for the record once and for all, whenever someone says to me or my colleagues or indeed the president himself, why are you still talking about the election of a year ago, why are you still talking about hillary clinton? because they are talking about it i would be happy to never mention her again. who? we beat her -- i'm the woman who works in this place, she doesn't. but she is on this book tour. have you donna brazile out there trying to clear her name and get the truth out there. i respect donna for doing that donna became the interim dnc chair about the same time i became the trump/pence campaign manager. i worked alongside of her plenty. we also had a respectful relationship. she is a smart woman. she feels like she is warning her democratic party to move on, to not be so smug and self-important and look at these elections as inevitable. i see this virginia race tightening now for much the same reason for governor. but, what donna is saying that is not getting enough coverage number one, that it was president obama who left

the democratic party bankrupted through neglect, had pushed all the donors practically to outside group. they had to replenish the coffers. that hillary clinton tried to rig the system and the system for her and lost anyway. that the sanders' voters were disenfranchised he ended up with 13 million voters in 22 contests he won. anyway, tells what you a terrible candidate she was. donna brazile did not like the way she was being treated. did not like the way that the down ballot races were neglected. this is a democratic party still at odds with itself. they are fighting with each other. brevity of leadership and ideas. they have lost over 1,000 seats on president obama's watch. i thought her criticism of both hillary clinton and barack obama on top of her criticism of debbie wasserman schultz, she referred to it as, quote, three titanic egos. they are talking about each other in a way that we are not. brian: did you know, she says she approached your camp about a united front with russian meddling, did that ever happen as far as you know get to your level,

kellyanne? >> it did not, but i want to say something that it was president obama who had this information. and as far as i know, he didn't take it to us either. as you see in donna's written work, she is talking about national security advisor rice and she is talking about -- she is also talking about attorney general holder. and president obama. they all knew about the russian meddling and never told us. why? they thought hillary would win. and i guess maybe they were, perhaps, too embarrassed to admit that russia was trying to meddle at the time on their watch. but we would have liked that information. the fact is the reason nobody has me on tv right now to ask me about george papadopoulos or carter page, i have never met these gentlemen. i don't know them. when i became campaign manager the idea i had to look any further than mostly cloudy or the you were midwest to win this election was foolishness. we had the better communicator. we had the superior message. i don't know what these folks were doing in the primary, but it turned out

it's the democrats who still have a russia problem and the president is right, people should take a look at that. steve: well, somebody is speaking out on the democratic side. it's donna brazile. maybe she will tell us more. >> good for her. steve: kellyanne, thank you for joining us live. >> thank you. take care. god bless you. steve: god bless you. meanwhile, coming up on this monday, ever wonder what exploding pringles look like? some crazy experiments on the plaza with janice. janice: turn it upside down? >> and him and us. where did it go? that's nuts. brian: that wasn't a pringle ♪ weird science ♪ qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

today he is here to show us some fun experiments. joining us now is the founder of spangler science club and host of diy which is steve spangler. >> nice to see you again, thank you. hold your cups out. ready? you will be in one second. watch this. water for you. ainsley: do we say what's in here? >> just water. watch this. snap your fingers, turn it upside down, go. turn it upside down. bam, gone. isn't that amazing? >> how did you do that? >> wait, wait, watch this. steve: what's in there? >> take a look at this. when this goes, in brian, there is a secret powder in the bottom. same ingredient in a baby diaper. super absorbent. that's why baby diapers work. i'm trying to get kids

excited about stem and chemistry. have you ever had this situation? put your safety glasses on. ever had this situation where you are eating pringles, for example, and your hand gets stuck in the jar? steve: all the time. >> that's a safety hazard if you ask me. here's what i'm going to ask you to do. i'm going to fill each of the pringles cans with eye degree general gas. it's fine. steve: whereby did you get hydro again gas. >> nice guy on the street. put your finger in here when i ask you to. finger over the top. all right, ainsley. finger over the top. nice job. good job. stay right there. here's what's going to happen. now take your finger off. okay. take your finger off, good. now watch what's happening. it's burning down right now. hydrogen gas turning down. hydrogen works its way down. oxygen is working its way. in you just don't know when it's going to go.

that's the thing. janice: we don't know when it's going to blow? ainsley: do this at home your kids? >> no you are not going it do at home with your kids. [screams] >> isn't that beautiful in that is the coolest way. don't touch that watch this. brian: take that lays. >> hello, there is another one for you. look at pumpkins. now, the pumpkins have been carved but i don't have time to push the stuff out. so here is what you do. >> hello. you put a little bit of water inside. we're generating some gas. and so now here, watch this. ready? 3, 2, 1. [screams] >> that's how do you it a little bit of water goes inside. no problem at all. we're just generating -- they're fine. all right. here we go, 3, 2, 1. nice, that was a good one. and here it is inside. you are just generating a little of that gas inside. and i just wanted you guys to know that if you are trying to get kids excited about science, it's a good way to do it.

steve: see all the experiments go to spangler science club.com. >> are you ready? [screams] >> bam. that was a good one. [applause] brian: dan bongino is coming up. ainsley: father jonathan morris.

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to medaling in the russian election. now that pushed for the uranium one deal. >> pushed for the uranium one episode and thousands of dollars for former president bill clinton. >> for those telling me to shut up, you know what i tell them? go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. is. brian: and she is. but this is a different story. right to a fox news alert, turned sunday's church services into a bloodbath. we're now learning that the shooting that killed 26 prishers in a small texas town was caught on camera. the church rolling on the sermon. ainsley: as they do every week. this gunman killed of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. after a fearless neighbor chased him away from the church before he could take even more lives. steve: and as investigators search for a motive if there

was one, the wilson county sheriff tells fox news he believed the shooter's in-laws attended that church but were not there yet morning at 11:00. brian: so many other -- so many things that are coming together now. todd is live in southern springs, texas where the sun is now up. >> exactly, brian, ainsley, and steve. good morning. as the sun comes up, a community wakes up to its new reality. 26 lives lost. another 23 people injured in what is being called the worst shooting at a church in terms of fatalities in more than history. last night, a vigil was held for the victims killed by 26-year-old devon patrick kelly. authorities say kelly was dressed in black tactical gear and was wearing a blastic vest when he arrived at a gas station near the church at around 11:20 yesterday

morning. he crossed the street and began firing a assault-type rifle. he randomly fired at worshipers inside and outside. now, according to the military, kelly, who is believed to live outside san ontonio was in the air force until 2014. but he was court-martialed in 2012 for assaulting his wife and child and apparently worked as a security guard for a texas water park this past summer. investigators say kelly did not appear to be connected to any organized terrorist groups. but as for this community of less than 2,000 people, there are reports that eight victims killed were from just one family. another victim, the daughter of the church's pastor, a 14-year-old named annabell. >> it's a close knit community here, you know? people are going to stick together. people are going to come together. and they're going to try to help each other.

>> authorities say the massacre could have been worse, if not for the bravery of two local men who chased after kelly. the shooter was later found dead. the sheriff telling fox that he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. the sheriff also told us that despite hours and hours of manpower being devoted to try to figure out a motive, they do not yet have a motive at this point in time. but like brian did say just moments ago, there are reports that the shooter did have some sort of family tie to this church. again, we're going to continue working this story and bring you the very latest as soon as we know it here on the fo fox news channel. back to you in the studio in new york. steve: all right. todd, thank you very much. ainsley: just tragic. that 14-year-old girl shot dead. her parents weren't there at the time. her dad's a pastor. another lady that was pregnant with a child. a 5-year-old child was killed. steve: eight members of one family. let's bring in dan, former new york city police

department officer, former secret service agent and host of the dan show. todd just mentioned, it could have been a lot worse, had a neighbor not heard the gunfire and rushed toward the scene with a rifle. he engaged the guy, apparently shots were exchanged, and then the guy took off in a car, and he got in a pickup truck with somebody else, a total stranger that gave chase. what do you think? >> well, you know, steve, post columbine, the world has changed dramatically. these homicidal maniacs and terrorists out there, they don't want to negotiate. listen, i can't say this in strong enough term. they are there for one thing and one thing only. body counts and carnage. you are not going to stop them with flowery language or negotiation. that is not what they're interested in. the only thing that is going to stop these maniacs is a good guy with a gun. listen, that's tough to say because it's not an easy thing to say, but it is true, and people deserve the truth. that is the only thing that is going to stop people to

absolutely committed to body counts and carnage like this. ainsley: these churches are probably such soft targets. probably the softest you could get. the president said he's considering of ramping up security as churches become these soft targets. we interviewed pastor earlier, and he says he allows people to carry inside a church. and if a man decided to do this, they wouldn't get off many shots because other people in the sanctuary would stand up with their gun. what do you think of that? ainsley: ainsley, church -- this is what i did for over a decade in my life in secret service. we walked in everywhere from airports to churches and said what's wrong with the security here. now, listen, i'm going to tell you something you don't want to hear either. you are in a uniquely vulnerable institution. why? you have a choke point. where does everybody come into church? in the back. nobody comes in behind the pulpit. so what does that mean?

that's where everybody leaves too. it makes for easy targeting. number two, there's almost no cover or concealment in a church. why are there no walls in a church? because you have to see the priest or the rabbi or whatever. so there's no way for you to hide. third, when you're in a church, where is everybody's attention? up front. where do these killers come in? in the back. so i'm begging you. i'm imploring you if you are a pastor or someone who runs a church, synagogue, or whatever, it is your responsibility to take these into effect and to harden up your institutions. it's sad to say that, but it's true. brian: well, here's the thing. everybody volunteers in a church. that's how the church subsists. i don't care what religion you are. can we have a volunteer security guard? go to church until 9:00. i need you from 9:00 to 11:00. especially people trained you like. but listen to what some of the democrats are saying. prayers are important but insufficient after another

speakable tragedy. congress must act and be complicit. so, again, immediately they're talking about guns and republicans as if they're at fault. >> no. no. no. no. i am not giving up and nor is anyone else my right to defend my daughter, my wife, and myself because some democrat wants a donation from michael bloomberg. no. you didn't get -- what part of this do you not get? you guys did not give us these rights. these are god-given rights. good patriotic men and women have to stay alive. you know what, brian? not me. it's not happening to me. i am a patriotic, law-abiding, god-fearing american. i have the right to survive an attack by a homicidal maniac. i am not surrendering my firearm and my ability to defend my wife and kids because you want a michael bloomberg donation.

that is your problem. that is not mine. the society is full of wolfs. we all know that. do not be a sheep and do not fall pre-to these sick partisan talking points. you deserve the right to defend yourself. i'm tired of this garbage and so does every law-abiding american as well. steve: and what stopped it? the good guy with the gun. according to the daily mail, they talked to some of the classmates from high school. they said he was crazy, weird and outcast. talked about his atheism online and talked about how people who believed in god were stupid. it does look like there could be a mental health component to this. >> yeah, when the secret service did a rather soft study of targeted violence, assassins and school violence, this seems to fit. where people in the past were could you sayers and indicators. but the vegas shooting, it doesn't make any sense at

all. no one seems to know anything. he seemed like a rather normal guy. so this seems to fit that model of targeted violence, and it goes back to that if you think something's creepy, it may be. so say something. what's the worst that could happen? steve: breaking news. apparently governor abbott was denied the right to own a gun. >> you cannot own a weapon if he was dishonorably discharged. you can't even constructively own a weapon, meaning you can't even have a weapon in the house to have access to. and, by the way, murder is still illegally. ainsley: what we see time and time again is in the school shooting so all of these little kids in connecticut, had his mom's guns or parents guns. when a bad guy wants to get his hands on a gun, he will be able to do it. elfed a way. but the people who are innocent, the ones who need to protect their families, if you

have gun rights and get their guns taken away, how in the world are they supposed to defend themself? >> ainsley, supply-side measures for guns have failed. almost everywhere they've been tried. you can cherry-pick an example here or there, but you're going to do nothing to stop the supply of hundreds of millions of firearms that already exist. the only question -- the only question that should be in every american's mind is what are you going to do to defend yourself? you will do nothing to keep firearms out of the hands of people who are going to use them for deadly reasons. how are you going to defend yourself is the only question. brian: dan, thanks so much. ainsley: thank you, dan. >> thanks, guys. steve: all right. speaking of governor abbott, he's going to be joining us live with the very latest on the response to the tragedy in texas. worst shooting there, mass shooting ever. he's coming up. brian: plus, our next guest is curious if bo bergdahl is a free man while the wounded

soldiers looking for him serving life sentences of internal pain. lieutenant colonel ralph peters next oh my gosh! how are you? well watch this. i pop that in there. press brew. that's it. so rich. i love it. that's why you should be a keurig man! full-bodied. are you sure you're describing the coffee and not me?

steve: american soldiers died reportedly looking for him and five terrorists were traded to get him back. but a judge ruling disgraced army sergeant bo bergdahl won't see one more day in

jail. our next guest is outraged pointing out bergdahl goes free freeh while the heroes wounded looking for him served life sentences of pain and incapacity. joining us right now is fox news strategic analyst lieutenant colonel ralph peters. ralph, give us your reaction. >> well, my initial reaction, and that of all vets that have served honorably, all retirees, all soldiers serving now with outrage. how can this be? bergdahl, go to the enemy get the same sentence that he would get for shoplifting at the px. so there's outrage. at this point now, honestly, it's sorrow. my reaction is sorrow because this is so much bigger than one jerk like bergdahl. judge nance, set a precedent that will affect our military, our armed services for decades to come. the message he sent with this

life sentence dishonorable discharge light fine makes dissertation a minor offense. desertion -- look, in our military, the worse of all the cardinal sin would be turning your weapon on your own. but the second is deserting your post, and that's what bergdahl did. people on the ground believe that soldiers died looking for him. the pentagon only admits to wounds. but there are people who have carried the pain all their life, and bergdahl walks free and everybody's outraged. >> you're absolutely right. those injured have life sentences of pain. as you point out. but here's the thing. bergdahl's attorney now in addition to the fact that his client is walking free, he wants bo bergdahl to wind up with a medal as being a prisoner of war. >> well, if you buy bergdahl's preposterous story that he

just wanted to walk over many miles -- just stroll through enemy country, enemy territory to the next post so he could report the terrible conditions at his firebase. well, if you buy that, you still can't get to a pow because he voluntarily left his post. so he certainly doesn't deserve a medal. but the left is going to push them at this as far as they can because the far left that hates our military sees this as a great victory, as a vindication for obama's rose garden ceremony, for susan rice declaring that bergdahl served honorably. and, again, bergdahl himself, what he did was fundamentally wrong. we used to shoot people for what he did. but at this point, it's really about the future of the institution. political correctness has punished our military. has hurt combat readiness. and now you have this where future, potential deserters can slap the bergdahl

precedent. steve: what do you mean, ralph, that pc? explain that. >> well, political correctness, obviously, you have various social issues. the attempts by the left under obama. and even before that. to use our military as an experiment, an experimental platform for social change. the only measure of how our military should be organized is combat effectiveness. our military does not exist primarily to serve somebody's social values. our military exists to kill our enemies and win our wars. and so what i've seen -- i mean, even stuff like destroying the beautiful folk poetry, which are so our obscene, we couldn't sing them on tv, but they were great at getting young guys to feel real macho. everything from that to the obama era restrictures on our

military. and what you're doing is crippling our ability not only to fight, but our ability to protect ourselves when in combat. so this has been absolutely disastrous, and we need to get back to the focus that our military is here to kill our enemies. not to make people feel good. steve: all right. >> but this decision, the bergdahl decision did real -- does -- and will do real damage. steve: an outraged lieutenant colonel ralph peters. sir, thank you very much. >> thank you. steve: all right. so what do you think? right now, we've got a fox news alert. an entire nation in mourning as texas heals from the worst shooting in church american history. governor gregg abbott will be governor gregg abbott will be asking how did in two minutes hough geico has b- ohhh. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying?

oooo. oh no no. maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years? is that what you wanted to say? mhmmm. i have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. geico. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. you ok back there, buddy?

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>> 24 after the hour, back with some quick headlines for you. starting with a fox news alert, the pentagon releasing the name of the american hero who lost his fight overseas. sergeant first class was killed during combat operations in afghanistan. the 33-year-old from california was just weeks into his third deployment. he leaves behind his wife, his high school sweetheart, and two young children. just 3 and 5 years old. and senator rand paul's injuries were worse than we thought after he was attacked by a neighbor outside his kentucky home. he suffered five broken ribs. it's unclear when he will return to washington. attacked from behind while mowing his lawn. the fbi believes the attack was politically motivated. four months after senator paul was playing with his colleagues. steve: all right. a fox news

alert we just threatened gunman in the texas church shooting was apparently denied a right to carry. that go new brunswick coming from governor gregg abbott. brian: who joins us now from austin. governor, how did you find out at that out? and what were the reasons he was rejected? >> right. well, we found it out from texas law enforcement, and he was rejected either because he didn't fully answer all the questions that are required to get a texas gun permit, or he answered those questions wrong. that, we still don't know. but, obviously, the key thing here, i've got to tell you, is the victims and the victims' families that we've got to continue to focus on. it was just ten hours ago that i left southern land springs where i got to personally visit with the victims' families, and i've got to tell you, it was the heaviest moment i've had to dealt with as governor in the state of texas speaking to those families and trying to summon what was needed to be said, to

try to warm their hearts and connect with them. but also, i've got to tell you, to see their reliance and their solve and their determination to continue to connect with god and their unwavering faith. steve: and so you were at this vigil last night there in the town. and i'm sure, governor, the people who were there, the victims' families must have said "you know, you would think that a church would be the last place that you would have to worry about something like this." >> well, and they did say that. for one, they said that this town would be the last place you would think it would happen because the town, as you know, is very small. it just has several hundred citizens. and then they said, of course, a church should be the last place something like this would happen. i think that you will see information surface over the coming days that there is actually a connection between the shooter and this church. i don't think the church was just randomly attacked. i think there was a reason why the shooter chose this church at this particular moment in

time. ainsley: yeah, we wanted to ask you about that. we had heard reports that the in-laws there went, the ex-wife's in-laws went there. >> yeah. i'm going to leave it at that. listen, we need to leave it to law enforcement to look at this, unabated in their efforts, and i don't want to say anything that can tramp he will upon their ability to get all the facts they need. brian: right. so having said that, you don't want to tramp he will on their ability, but they do want answers as good as anybody, and to do that, we want to know the connection. do you believe that the gunman knew that most likely that no one had guns in there? was there a note, like, leave your guns on the outside? >> as far as i'm aware, there was no note or notation like that. it did appear that the gunman, for one, you could tell by the way he was armed and geared, he was prepared to be able to take on fire. obviously, he was perhaps surprised and shocked when a neighbor came out and did shoot him and connected with

him. brian: so he was struck? so the assailant was hit? >> the assailant was hit by that neighbor. we do have -- at least, i was told that by texas law enforcement. before he got into the car and ran away, it could have been the fact that he was hit by the neighbors' gunshot that caused him to drop his weapon. and here's what we don't know. and that is we know it was only moments later died. we don't know if his death was because of the neighbor's gunshot or a self-inflicted wound. ainsley: governor, you know, we've been reporting this shouldn't happen in a church. but i was downstairs talking with some people that work here that we all talk about our faith, and we share the same beliefs. we were saying there's no other place we would want to go, other than church, because i'm there asking for forgiveness, i feel very close to christ when i'm there. so i'm trying to look tamce positives here, and i know that those people are with the lord now and experiencing eternity. and no more suffering.

no more sadness anymore. but on that note, did you talk to any of the people that were there when you were at the vigil? any personal stories that you wanttory to share with us from what happened inside the church? >> well, first, before the vigil, i went to a community center and in the community center where the families of the victims, and i had the opportunity to speak with them directly and try to assemble language that would touch their hearts. and i have to tell you, i left from there before going to the vigil very inspired by these vigils who are going through this because it was clear from my conversation of hugging them and holding them and hearing their whispers into my ears that their faith in god was unwavering. what they relied upon in that moment in time and during the course of the vigil later on was both their faith but also the necessity for us to come together under one god, to purge evil, and to rely upon

the love that god provides. ainsley: thank you, governor. steve: yeah, indeed. we know that you have your hands full. governor gregg abbott, thank you very much. ainsley: glad you were there. thank you. >> thank you. ainsley: all right. how do we turn to faith when a massacre happens at a place of worship? we're going to ask jonathan father next. brian: and donna brazil and the 2016 primaries, he wasn't paying attention. >> i didn't follow it. i don't -- i would like to see what donna brazil has to say. i didn't read the book. i don't know the details, so i'm not going to make a i'm not going to make a judgment on thatomes in the mai, you pull out the tube and you spit in it, which is something southern girls are taught you're not supposed to do. you seal it and send it back and then you wait for your results. it's that simple.

>> i pulled up on the intersection, and i saw the shooter coming from the cars, actually, right outside of church where parked. his vehicle was parked, door open, engine running, and him and the neighbor across the street were both coming out about the same time exchanging

fire, and as he came up, he -- i never got a look at him. i never really saw him, i just -- i saw the gunfire. the shooter got in his truck, the gentleman in the rifle -- with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefly -- he briefed me quickly quill on what had just happen and said what we had to get him, and so that's what i did. we just took pursuit. we speed over 87 through traffic, and we -- like i said, we hit about 95 going down 539 trying to catch this guy until he eventually lost control on his own and went off in a ditch. he just hurt so many people, and he just affected so many people's lives. why wouldn't you want to take him down? brian: and, by the way, he -- according to the governor, he was hit. he was hit before he got into that car and lost control. ainsley: that guy, he in the cowboy hat were just inside the church and that's when

they said they saw the shooter through the cars and then that neighbor comes up to his car and said i've got to jump in. i've got to go after that guy. he was just firing a bunch of shots in that car. that's how it all ended. steve: 95 miles per hour until he crashed. let's bring in fox news religious correspondent. he is in las vegas today. father jonathan, we start with a story of a good samaritan. first a guy who heard it, grabbed his rifle, went out, engaged the shooter, apparently hit the shooter at one point, and then another good samaritan where he says, hey, come on, we've got to chase that guy, and he did. >> and he may have saved a lot of lives. you mention i am in las vegas, and i'll be speaking to a group tomorrow. many of whom i'm sure affected by this tragedy in las vegas by the shooter. and maybe people will say, hey, we've got to get out of this place, get out of the big cities, look what happened in new york city not too long ago. but here's a tiny little town who could have been -- where

could you be safer than this little town and yet evil exists. and i think the real message that we can all take from this is even though evil does exist in the human heart, and it can be anywhere, exist in the human heart anywhere. but grace abounds even more. and i think that what the governor mentioned earlier today is that the people there in this little town are really experiencing the grace and the presence of god because he's stronger than death itself. steve: the interesting thing when you think about it, father, the church is filled with people who were praying to god to protect them and give them a long life. and, you know, all the things people pray for in a church. and yet it was there that it happened. you know, it questions your faith. you know, it really does because it's, like -- >> it can happen there -- steve: where is god? >> well, you know, if there is no heaven, if heaven does not exist. in other words, if there's no promise for life eternal, then

i have no explanation whatsoever. because, yes, grace abounds, and there's great gifts. but if your 14 child has died like this pastor's child has been killed, then where's god? we have great trust in faith that there is heaven and that's the ultimate. and if it doesn't exist, i'm nuts, and we're all nuts to have faith in a god who can protect us. and if he can, he has a promise for us, and that's the ultimate protection is heaven itself isn't that, yeah, it's happening in bike lans, happening at concerts, happening in churches. i mean, you can't go to all the things that we enjoy without worrying about this. what's your message to those folks that may be don't believe or are going through a really tough time right now and can't wrap their heads around this? >> well, you know, i certainly wouldn't offer any theological

explanation to somebody who just on their son or their wife, their spouse killed. i would hug them. and i would weep with them. you know, there's one thing that people who suffered tragically like this always say a few days out i would have never made it through those first days if it not for the support of my loved ones. and not even the nearest ones. but writing letters and calling in. you know, there's one last thing i would like to mention, ainsley. there's a lot of debate right now for gun control and things like that. it's not the time, i think. but one thing we can do, we know this shooter was denied a gun; right? so it wasn't about laws in this case. but we can be close to the people who we know are suffering around us. maybe mental health. maybe tragedy in their own lives. maybe broken relationships. we can't always stop somebody from doing something crazy like this. but maybe sometimes we can. and i think that is the biggest defense right now. being close to the people who

are near brokenness. it's not easy. we have to do it as a church, do it as a community, as a nation, but perhaps that is our greatest weapon, so to speak, against people who have used real weapons to such evil, evil things. steve: a lot of people have a lot of questions. father jonathan, thank you very much for joining us today from las vegas. >> my pleasure. god bless you. brian: you have the other news breaking around the country. >> yes. yes. a heavy morning. thank you, guys. after months investigating alleged collusion between the trump campaign. senator dianne feinstein admitting the probe has a dead end. >> have you seen any evidence that this dirt, these e-mails were ever given to the trump campaign? >> not so far. >> not so far. have you seen any communications that suggested that the trump campaign wanted them to release them through a different means? because, obviously, they were also released by wikileaks. >> no. i have not.

>> president trump denied any knowing of connections between his campaign and the russians. and in her new book, former dnc committee chair donna brazil says the primary was rigged in favor of hillary clinton. but senate majority leader chuck schumer claims he wasn't paying attention. >> i didn't follow it. i don't -- i would like to see what donna brazil has to say. i will read it. i haven't read her book. i don't know the details, so i'm not going to make a judgment on that. >> brazil claims clinton's campaign took control of dnc nearly a year before she accepted the nomination. earlier counselor to the president kellyanne conway weighed in about the tell all book. >> she feels like she's warning her democratic party to move on to not be so smug and self important and look at these elections as inevitable. >> brazil has told critics of the new book to quote go to hell. and dramatic body camera video capturing the moment three heroic police officers pull an unconscious woman from her burning car.

you can see the texas officers dragged the woman through an open window after she crashed her car into a telephone pole. thankfully, she'll be okay we're told. all three officers will be honored for their actions. and those are your headlines. back to you guys. steve: unbelievable video. just another day in the life of america's police. thank you, jackie. ainsley: thank you, jackie. the church massacre coming eight years to the day of the terror attack at fort hood that left 18 people dead. steve: will our next guest that remembers day. he was shot seven it times, and he has a powerful message for america. you're going to want to hear. he's next can you fit in there? i got this... that's the new man, huh? yup. getting kinda' close to my ride. wow... now, that's how you make a first impression. they're going to love you... that's ford, america's best-selling brand. hurry in today for 0% financing for 72 months across the full line of ford cars, trucks and suvs! and just announced...get 0% apr for 72 months plus $1000 cash back! take advantage of these exclusive holiday offers

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conspiracy, money laundering, and failing to register as a foreign agent. both men are on house arrest. and expected later today and senator bob menendez corruption trial. the new jersey democratic senator is accused of taking bribes from a florida doctor in exchange for a for one minute political favors. both men have said they're not guilty. ainsley. ainsley: thanks, steve. a fox news alert. 26 people dead after a gunman opens fire on a small texas church during sunday any service. the attack happening miles away and eight years to the day of the fort hood shooting. 13 were killed in that. 32 injured when major went on that rampage, including our next guest who was shot seven times on that day. joining us now, he's now a counselor for the veteran court. is retired u.s. army staff sergeant. sergeant, thanks for being with us. how are you doing today? >> i'm doing pretty good. i just have a heavy heart this

morning. ainsley: yeah, i know. what's going through your mind? because you've experienced something similar. >> well, you know, my heart goes out to the families of the wounded and the deceased from the shooting yesterday in texas. and it really bothers me that now we went through the thing eight years ago where military bases were one of the safest places you could be. and then the second safest place you could be is a house of worship. and now we're looking at even a house of worship as targets. so what are we going to do about protecting law-abiding americans and god-fearing americans when they're in a house of worship. ainsley: what's your recommendation? what do we do? >> well, one, i think one that the deacons of the church should be flued protective mode to protect those. and outside of just members of the church, that we need to screen people when they come in, even have a law enforcement presence outside

of a church. but it also boils down to where we need to have an attentive ear to americans that have problems and issues. we're all life coaches. everybody has problems that they did with day-to-day activities. but now it's time for us to circle the wagons and gather as a family, as a strong nation that we are so that we can help drift some eternal issues from within. ainsley: yeah, mental health has become a big issue nowadays and the president was talking about how mental health is the issue, not guns. this guy was deranged. we all know someone who has mental issues or is dealing with something or ptsd. how do you know when there's a point when they're going to do this in your experience with a peer counselor? >> well, some of the tall tell signs is that if a person decides to give away all their possessions. also, when you talk to a person, they reflect back on good times and left to the

standpoint where they're acting as if they're in their ladder days. then also the nonverbal cues when you're talking to a person is the dialation of pupils, the rate of breathing, and when a time when it's not hot or cold. or avoid direct eye contact and just jittery, sudden movements. ainsley: yeah, this guy, his reputation. i mean, so many people said was crazy. so if you see something, say something. sergeant, thank you so much for being with us. i think we lost his speed feed. but we wish him all the best. god bless. more fox and friends in just a moment. but first, let's check in with sandra smith to find out what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> good morning, ainsley. president trump calling this an act of pure evil. we are learning more about the man suspected of gunning down those 26 people attending that small-town church in texas. why did he do it? former commissioner joins us.

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steve: about 10%. >> it burns really, really clean, so i just wanted to show you how that works. so this goes here. let me dump a little bit out. that's perfect. a little bit more. that's fine. >> where's the fire extinguisher. >> her husband's a firemen. >> i know. >> watch what happens when you light this here, watch what happens. look how cleanly that burns. isn't that nice? don't worry. the table's on fire. isn't that the greatest. >> if you do this on your kitchen table, would it ruin it? >> you never do it at your home. do it at a friend's home. now, this is not the stuff with glue. so when we're trying to get kids to play with slime, we're talking about a chemical changer reaction. watch how quickly it happens. look at this. so here's the goo. it's actually polyvinyl alcohol, and this is borax.

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>> jon: happy birthday. >> my daughter's birthday is today, too. >> see you tomorrow, everybody. >> good morning, everybody. monday. breaking news from overnight. america waking up to the reality of another mass shooting. this time a small church in a small quiet texas town. a gunman with an assault-style rifle. ballistic vest opening fire killing 26 and wounding 20 others. the victims ranging in age from 5 to 72. that gunman is dead and we're left to understand why he committed such a senseless act. good morning, everybody. tough way to start the week. i'm bill hemmer live in "america's newsroom" as we search for answers. >> more details coming out by the minute. the shooting happened during sunday services yesterday morning. the gunman walked down the center aisle of that church