i did this movie because i'm sick of the violent sex and cartoon characters that hollywood gist us. thanks for being with us. laura ingraham. hi. >> laura: i have a question. >> sean: go ahead. you didn't see my movie? >> laura: i'm going to see it. so much pressure on me. i'm going to see it. sean, i have a question. when are you going to star in the movie? >> sean: if you would have taken the time and spent the $15 -- i'm sending you a free copy. i'm in the movie. thank god i played myself, which is easy to do and a small snippet. hope you see it. you'll like it. what did you say? what? >> laura: we're all looking forward to it. i hear you have a popcorn machine at your house, too. the director -- >> sean: i don't have a popcorn -- >> laura: you're fancy. you used to be a long island kid. >> sean: what is the name of the guy that bought -- orville popcorn. i put that in the microwave like

everybody else in america. >> laura: all right, hannity. stop eating my team. >> sean: thanks. have a great show. >> laura: good evening from washington. another hollywood bomb shell. the comedian louis c.k. has been accused by five women of sexual misconduct. the allegations were reported by "the new york times" and now the distributor of his new fall "daddy i love you" has cancelled the premier due to unexpected circumstances. they may be unexpected to his distributor, but for those of us familiar with louis c.k.'s career, it was totally expected. as with harvey weinstein, whispers in the media about c.k.'s sexual misdeeds for years. remember the tweets about sarah palin and her special needs child in 2010? he ridiculed palin's body parts, and he said "retart baby."

to give you insight into his mind, this is one of the cleaner tweets that i can read. he said "people think that sarah palin is really mean. but she has a family of chinese poor people living in her hole". got more vile from there. can't read anymore. despite knowing this sorted and sick comments louis made about sarah palin, jane mcmichael, the 2012 chair of the radio correspondent's association invited him to headline a diner. he defended his decision to invite the comedian telling politco it gives the dinner an edge. shakes it up. which is what we wanted to do. one of our goals is to make it not so stuffy in the evening. louis c.k. if fit the bill when it came to that. he if it the bill already. greta van susteren called him

out. she called louis a pig. she wrote on her blog, i refuse to show any support for this guy. the organization that hired him is just as bad as he is. it's no secret that he denigrates women. within days, louis dropped out of the dinner. the radio and tv association didn't rescind. he dropped out. g greta is right. here's a sample of his sterling work. >> there's no worse life available to a human than being a caught child molester. from their point of view, it must be amazing. for them to risk so much -- [laughter] how do you think i feel? if somebody said to me, if you eat almonds to go to jail, i'll

eat them. they don't taste as good as a young boy does. >> my problem is very simple. it's trying to find a place in my house where i can masturbate without somebody bothering me. that's really difficult. >> laura: he even dresses like a pig. to discuss the cultural fall out. why louis c.k. got a pass from decleat for as long as he did. i'm joined by raymond royal and columnist and best selling author, ann coulter. great to see you. everybody that i know of familiar with the comedic world, new of harvey weinstein and look of louis c.k. is this surprising to you, that they covered for him for this long? >> that isn't surprising. what is actually the most surprising, i almost don't want to point out how many of the

creepy sexual predators that are being outed right now are self righteous liberals because -- i'm more offended what they've done to women than their politics. the feminists, concerned for sexual harassment for such a long time has been sort of a single edge sword. it was something that would only be deployed against conservatives and republicans. so i got to say, i'm heartened that it's the left going after the left here. they actually do care about sexual harassment. sexual predators. rape has been alleged obviously in harvey weinstein's case. wow what a surprise. they care about rape and the dignity of women. for 20 years, there was little evidence of that. it seemed to be deployed as like in clarence thomas.

>> laura: raymond, i want to talk about the work of these artists as they're called. the connection between what they produce in the entertainment community and the conduct they're accused of. >> anyone that has seen casually louis ck's act knows these things are routinely part of the act. exposing yourself. we heard the bit about child molestation. why that is funny in any way, i don't know. >> laura: no. >> this nastiness normalizes this behavior. the more you hear it, the more people that have this disposition or perverts hear this and go, oh, i'm not alone, this is cruel and in this case we're hearing about these woman that have come forward. he exposed himself to them. he did inspeakable things. he was only a pervert with one or two women.

in his work, he was perverted to millions of people. >> laura: let's play this scene. >> that's the double standard. >> laura: this is a rape scene in his show that was on fx for years. let's watch. >> i just -- >> okay. bye now. >> no. >> bye-bye. bye now. >> pamela, i want to -- >> i'm late for -- not being in here right now. >> laura: we're going to play the whole thing. i watched this earlier. and i -- i'm blissfully unaware of the man's performances. and i -- i never found him funny. i found him to be a slob. he's obviously a leftist. but that -- what we just saw, and it goes on and on and on. just watching it, the word

"degenerate" needs to come back. we'll go to the roy moore allegation from a long time ago. ann, when you watch that and you think of all the things that we see, whether on billboards, in music lyrics, the n word, this is a depravity that crosses almost every cultural product in the landscape. but oh, isn't this funny? so edgy as the correspondent's chairman of the dinner said. >> yes. i have not seen that scene. it's surprising. i think "the new york times" pointed this out in their article today. it's surprising that it's so on the nose. he does a lot of himself masturbating in these shows. you think you'd stay away from that if that's what you're doing off camera. i do find between harvey

weinstein and louis c.k. this desire to force people to watch you masturbate to pointlessly, i mean, other than the republican congress, i've never heard of this as being an attractive pursuit in life. >> laura: raymond, another clip that we have to play from barack obama and jon stewart. let's hear from barack obama what he thinks of this talent. >> i think louis is terrific. >> you just made his life. >> no, no. he's wonderful in such a self-deprecating but edgy kind of way. and basically good-hearted even the way he says stuff that is -- >> wrong. >> wrong. >> laura: okay. i had not seen that before until today. raymond, that was after the

retard comment about sarah palin. he said other horrible stuff about sarah palin. >> these outrageous scenes inflicting himself on a woman, talking about masturbation. >> laura: this is the left. they claim to be for women and children. but women and children are objectified and -- >> why is it funny? >> laura: in way, shape or form. i want to deal with roy moore. this broke as well. he's a senate candidate. he was -- he bested luther strange in the jeff sessions seat run-off. he's a christian conservative, a fire brand. former supreme court judge in alabama. now this allegation comes 38, 39 years ago that he had an encounter, sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl. he claims this is a hit job. this is the clinton machine or someone smearing him. what is your take on this story? >> well, i guess i'd like the

hear his response more than just that it's fake news. we ought to give him 24, 48 hours to respond and see where it goes. i'm sore of frustrated all around with that alabama primary. what was the matter with mo brooks? >> laura: that's who i liked. >> me, too. i endorsed mo. >> he was in the house all this time. fantastic on immigration, the one issue that matters. why did it have to be between establishment luther strange who will open borders or roy moore? so i'm frustrated from the beginning on that. as for if you haven't read "the washington post" article, they will talk about how there's all these women coming forward. there's one allegation of a woman. yes, he dated girls that were 17, 19 when he was 30. we might find that creepy today. but this was nearly 50 years

ago. the one serious allegation is a woman or at the time she was 14 years old that claimed actual molestation. and who knows. i'd like to see what his response is. you can't help thinking about the timing here, laura. he's been -- >> laura: he's been in the public eye a long time. >> and running for senate. >> laura: right. >> he's denied the allegations so far. if any of them prove to be true, he has to step aside like louis c.k. >> laura: yeah, he has to step aside but he can't because his name is on the ballot. so they're going to have to just write in someone, right? that's -- >> the media loves this story because if it's true, he's a hypocrite. in the cause of louis c.k. -- >> forget hypocrite. he's a creep. >> laura: if the truth, he's a

predator. >> who cares about the hypocrisy thing. who cares about what the rules of law are for when a republican can replace him. i'm sorry, the democrats replaced robert when he ran for senate not because they found out anything about him. but because his poll numbers were down. it was past the time they could legally replace him. so no, no, no. if think turns out to be true, they should replay him with mo brooks. >> laura: mo brooks. that's the guy i endorsed. he didn't go anywhere. i appreciate it, raymond. still ahead, after eight years of dismissing it, democrats are all of a sudden embracing american exceptionalism. we'll show you the before and after. bread...breadstick? a matchstick! a lamppost! coin slot!

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>> laura: welcome back. with president trump in asia, we're seeing a shameless and phony embrace of exceptionalism from the left. that's tonight's angle. on the occasion of president trump's asia ship, many are

exceptionalists. now many say trump is doing this foreign policy thing wrong especially when it comes to china. here's the president earlier today. >> both the united states and china will have a more prosperous future if we can have a level economic playing field. right now unfortunately it is a very one-sided and unfair one. we talk often. it's a very good chemistry between the two of us. i don't blame china. [applause] after all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for the benefit of its citizens. i give china great credit. >> laura: former secretary of state madeline albright did not like that at all. >> he's not the center of everything happened. i'm appalled the way this is

being presented and the way the president talks about himself and those that are trying to help him. >> laura: is it dangerous not to have these positions field or better? >> it's dangerous. >> laura: i do like her brooch. oh, madeline. it's interesting to see you lecture something about their conduct abroad. now where did you learn your state craft? was it from assad or putin or maybe it was your time with kim jong-il? i guess it's described as plain old diplomacy? what did you want president trump to do? take his shoe off and pound the table? the great hall? of course president trump used the occasion to really rail against the chinese. albright and company would be slamming him for being uncouth

and unprofessional. here's chris hill from the bomb administration. >> is there a chance that he's kowtowing to the chinese leader in small part because he's trying to get the big deal on north korea? >> i think to some extent that's what he's looking for. frankly, that's not how we're going to get chinese cooperation. we need to explain to the chinese why this issue is important to us, why the china relationship is important to us and why wee need to work together on this. >> laura: kowtowing? at least he didn't bow down like someone else we know. still love that shot. there's something deliciously ironic about headlines such as this from slate today. weak and clueless. trump is the american president of chinese dreams. think about what happened to the united states vis a vis china in obama's two terms in office. the trade deficit ballooned every single year. american ideas and technologies

were stolen, china built islands for military use in international waters. china expanded their economic footprint from africa all the way to argentina. everywhere in between. they poured hundreds of billions into their army which is now larger than our army. and by the way, the human rights abuses, they proliferated. so no one who is not overtly anti-trump would believe for a second that the chinese think trump is weaker as an adversary than obama. xi knows president trump does not buy into the citizen of the world clap trap of the bushes and obamas. he knows that trump is a believer in american exceptionalism. by the way, that is a marked contrast to the way that president obama sounded. remember the nato summit in 2009? >> i believe in american exceptionalism just as i suspect that the britts believe in

british exceptionalism and the greeks believe in greek exceptionalism. >> laura: i still can't believe that sound bite. and xi knows that trump would never prostate himself and apologize for america either. >> the early decisions we made, that you're starting to see some restoration of american's standing in the world. there's been times where american has shown arrogance and been dismissive. the united states is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. we've at times been disengaged and at times we sought to dictate our terms. >> laura: the bottom line is this: a lot of the armchair quarterbacks have needled the president's every move from coy ponds to japanese cars. before we take advice from people that ran american pristine and power into a ditch,

maybe we should consider that trump is doing something different. he's projecting american power with a lighter touch and connected with the chinese by honoring their history and appreciating their hospitality. that might not be a bad idea. might not be a bad opening for tough trade and strategic negotiations ahead. we'll see. he's in a surprisingly understated way put down the marker that he will defend the rights of the american people, and he did that in asia. someone that everybody should be cheering. that's the angle. joining us now with reaction from san francisco is irash aramesh. a national security analyst. all right. where did i go wrong? take me down a peg or two. >> laura, i think the one thing you didn't show is the scene where trump almost got on his knees, pulled out a ring and proposed to the chinese premier. this guy now for about two years has been bashing china. how many times has he said to

the chinese have been raping america, china has raped america and then today just like a school yard bully who is good about talking smack from a distance, he went to china, backed down, buckled down. it was an embarrassment. i laughed when i saw that but sad on the inside. he's an american president and that's what he did. that was an act of cowardess. now he's going to vietnam next and we'll see it happen over and over again. talk smack, but once you get there, back stab. >> laura: we got the lingo. so arash, a question to you. do you believe that in practice it will turn out that barack obama was tougher on china trade than donald trump will be. just speculate for a moment. >> i'm not going to speculate. i'm going to talk about facts. here's the facts. at least that barack obama did not ship his factories to china.

barack obama didn't make ties and hats and shirts and heels and -- >> laura: okay. if you're going to that -- i don't want to interrupt you but i want you to stay on point. did any of those bullet points that i put in the opening, in the angle, the trade deficit went up every year. of course china aggressively moved. this is from foreign policy magazine, the commentary magazine, this is not -- foreign affairs -- this isn't like a right wing view. china expanded their economic footprint, space weaponry, stole our intellectual property, stole my files from the office of personnel management. they moved on every front in eight years of obama. last time i checked you said trump was to brash. now he's too nice to the

chinese. you can't settle on a narrative. the narrative of eight years of obama is the -- flat as a pancake. >> ever since infamous may that famous visit to china, china opened up and they've been on the rise. it's not a obama thing or a bush thing or a reagan thing. it's a fact of life. having said that, president trump needs to figure out what he's about to do with asia, with the mideast, with these big policy and foreign policy and national security questions. he can't go on twitter and say one thing and bully people and irritate people and then when he meets these world leaders -- >> laura: he got $250 billion of trade deals for major american companies that will have significant partnerships in

china. that's real american jobs created. >> i believe it when i see it. >> laura: okay. you don't believe -- so he told all of the ceos in the deal, are they all lying or -- >> you know what? i know -- let's not paint a picture for your viewers who may not follow this on a daily basis. every time a u.s. president goes on one of these trips, hundreds of ceos go with them. when obama went to india or china or japan or any country for that matter, hundreds of business leaders went there. that's why we have a trade commission and a trade representative. let's not talk about trump is going there and bringing all these ceos. like this is the first time anyone has done that. >> laura: so there nick that you think happened over the last the 36 hours in china that was good for america? anything positive at all or the only person who had a handle on china and north korea because that worked out so darn well over the last eight years before

trump. nothing over the last 36 hours was good for you. nothing? >> if trump -- yeah. i'll tell you what is good for me. trump's behavior alienating his own republicans. so when we get an impeachment vote people like corker around kyle will vote for impeachment. they'll see the man is unstable -- >> laura: that's hilarious. he actually bowed down -- >> i listened to your comic relief for two minutes. here's the thing. countries -- >> laura: speaking of talking smack. go ahead. >> countries that feared us feel sorry for us. >> laura: they prefer obama. >> laura, this is a president that told bill o'reilly that americans have killed as many people as the russians have. >> laura: your president who you think that -- >> america has blood on its

hands. trump, your president, your boy -- >> laura: let me just -- >> your voice -- >> laura: let me get the final word. these are san francisco values. when the president -- >> we're proud of it. and we're proud of it. it's a great -- >> laura: i love san francisco. don't worry about it. >> you should lover. from uber, every company -- >> laura: you're very angry. don't invite a guy and don't cut me off if you think i'm going to wipe the floor. if you're going to cut me off -- >> laura: this is the typical tactic of the left. >> this is beautiful. i enjoy this. >> laura: they make points. they don't want points to be countered because they don't like actual speech. you don't like actual speech. >> go for it. i'm all ears. >> laura: okay. number 1, i think we can look just objectively over the eight years under obama with our relationship with north korea and china.

china did get a lot stronger, china cheated on a lot of trade deals and president obama did one thing that i think was really good with china. he slapped temporary tariffs on cold rolled steel, which i give him credit for. that was smart. trump will take that to another degree. i think that's a smart continuation of smart nationalistic policy. obama saw that during his time in office. that was a good thing. i can say something that he did good vis a vis china. you cannot say anything positive about president trump which shows that you're not an unbiassed observer on this. you're committed to trump's impeachment you were crying over the election results. now you can have the last word. >> i listen to you on the radio. your evolution from a free market capitalist to a nationalist protectionist is baffling. >> laura: really? >> it's funny that conservatives like you keep talking about who

at least used to talk about the open market and anti-social -- >> laura: never did. i don't know what you're listening to. i never talk about the open market. >> i listened to you for five years. you're a nationalist protectionist. >> no. i worked for president reagan. okay? i don't know what you were doing in 1987. i worked for him. president reagan slapped tariffs on the japanese motorcycles and helped harley-davidson. president reagan understood that tariffs were well-deployed. >> let your viewers know -- >> laura: this is fascinating for a san francisco liberal to try to define conservatism. i won't try to define -- >> you failed. that's the things. >> laura: i understand that nationalism and a -- we appreciate it. still ahead, the first dreamer deported under president trump gets busted a again for trying

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in mexico hoping he can come home. >> laura: turns out he's not so innocent. he was caught monday trying to sneak back in the united states, all the while as he brought a lawsuit. joining us is art del queto. he's a border patrol agent. this is a fascinating story for a lot of reasons. first, he claimed that he was unfairly deported but turns out he left voluntarily and then tried to sneak back in monday. like fell down and ran from border patrol agents and they ran after him. they tackled him. what do you think about situations like this where he's the poster child of the dreamer movement? >> i guess if we caught him, we're doing our job, right?

first and foremost. but you know, you have an individual that at some point he's got to face reality and just stop lying. you know, he's been in this country. people are saying he's been in the country since a very young age. but he was lying the entire time. he lied about being deported the first time by border patrol. i read part of the story. there is no evidence that he was ever deported the first time. more than likely left on his own. he turned around and he files some type of lawsuit. then he dropped the lawsuit. so if he's so correct and he's doing everything right, there's a lot of red flags here. now he gets caught again trying to enter the country illegally again. the bottom line, there's got to be consequences. that's what the problem is, there's not enough consequences for individuals breaking laws or for the individuals that

continually thumb the border patrol and, you know, they just false, false lies and disrespect. that's the big thing. that's where it upsets me. you know, as a representative of all these agents. they're out there in the most rough terrain, rigorous areas. you know, they're by themselves a lot of times. they need to start taking care of the agents out there, too. i have heard hundreds of stories -- >> laura: can i ask you one question? there seems to be a story about attrition among border patrol agents. that we're not replacing agents as quickly as they're leaving the force. why is that? they're failing polygraph tests. going to other law enforcement agencies within the government. but we need the border patrol agents. donald trump in his immigration priorities package said he wants to double the number of border patrol agents or more. >> right. i think that's great to double the number and get more.

we're under the congressional mandate. the reality though is we need to start taking care of the border patrol agents that are working right now. we can hire 5,000 more agents. but if you don't retain the experience from the agents that are there, that's where the issue is. we're working the most rough terrains like i said before. we get assaulted more. a lot of these assaults on the agents go unprosecuted. that's another slap in the face. you need to have pay equity. doesn't help that we can hire 5,000 more agents if we're going to lose 5,000 agents now. that should be the number 1 priority. you need to take care of the agents now. >> laura: among the border patrol agents, is the mood better -- do the agents seem to feel more at ease under president trump than under obama or they don't really pay attention who is president? >> no, the agents are definitely

paying attention. one thing that people need to understand. we have very smart border patrol agents out there and they're paying attention. is the mood better now and the morale than under obama? most definitely. however, we can't stop there. the reality is, the morale is not where it should be. and the way you get that morale where it should be is you properly take care of the agents working right now. the agents that are constantly out there on the line, putting their lives on the line. >> laura: and also tonight, at the department of homeland security, elaine duke, the acting homeland security secretary, was set to extend residency permits to over 50,000 hondurans that are currently living in the united states, this apparently did not sit well with white house chief of staff john kelly who reportedly called duke and demanded she expel the

hondurans immediately. now the working on the post said duke felt pressured and threatened to resign. dhs pushed back on the report. regardless, one can't a strikin similarity to sally yates who defied the trump white house as the acting attorney general. to help us make sense of this reported turmoil inside the department of homeland security is andrew arthur, the resident fellow in law and policy for the center for immigration studies. all right. andrew, give me a sense here about what is going on. because she's an acting dhs secretary. these hondurans were supposed to be removed from the united states and reportedly she gives them temporary reprieve against the wishes of the chief executive of the government. president trump through john kelly. >> yeah, honduras has been the beneficiary of what is called temporary protective status for almost 20 years.

the state department had cleared on the return of these individuals back to honduras. there was no return for them not to be returned. yet acting secretary duke decided to extend another six months their presence in the united states noting they may be removed at the end of that period. at the same time, continuing it for no apparent reason whatsoever. >> laura: well, they were here and they get this protected status because of what? because of a hurricane? what is it? what is the reason? >> the reason they received temporary protective status is because of hurricane mitch in 1998. >> laura: what? >> yeah. >> laura: 1998? explain that to me. 1998 is a long time ago. why would you still get protected status in the united states presumably all of these years later and you can return to your homeland? seems that john kelly through the president, president instructing him, okay, this has

to end now. we've spent money, taken care of you. it's time to go home. so she's an obama holdover, correct? the dhs acting secretary? >> that's correct. >> laura: that is a problem. don't you think? that's a big problem. >> it's just simply pushing the problem over to the plate of the incoming secretary, hopefully incoming secretary to make the decision, to make the tough decision four months before the mid-term elections. frankly it doesn't make sense. the time has come for this temporary status for these folks to end. the reasons have been given the last 18 years that they've been allowed to be here and have been -- they received teach reign, too little reign. coffee rust. the reasons are ridiculous. >> laura: yeah, that has to come to an end. how about the assistant secretary of homeland security's

tenure to come to an end. we need that to come to an end. just like in the state department, it's happening there as well. the president's mandate, his views, his policies are being thwarted by obama holdovers or by career bureaucrats in the state department. this is really thwarting democracy, thwarting the election results. i don't remember -- maybe you can fill me in. i don't remember obama having a lot of former bush people in thwarting his will. do you remember any circumstances where bush holdiers were saying no, we're not going to do those policies? >> i certainly don't remember that. you know, i can tell you most of the people that staffed these departments on a permanent basis are probably more in line with president obama than they are with president trump. that might be a big part of the reason why you see a difference. but the senate needs to get these folks confirmed, get the politicals in the positions to make the hard decision.

>> laura: clean it out. thanks, andrew. up next, congress is seemingly in no hurry to get tax reform done. but they're happy to skip town early. we're going hold them accountable. up next. yea, so, mom's got this cold #stuffynose #nosleep i got it... #mouthbreather

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>> laura: welcome back. a busy day on capitol hill. republicans in the house and senate work to complete that tax reform package. the senate bill released tonight is at odds with the house version on a number of key issues. with lots of hard work ahead, congress is gone. look. an empty studio. there's nobody here. instead of spending the necessary time to hammer out this agreement, congressmen and women are starting their weekend a little early. for some perspective, just this year, the senate has been out of session for 85 days. the house of representatives sat empty for 67 days. compare that to the average american that receives eight vacation days annually. joining us now are former congressman and fox news

contributor jason chaffetz. congressman, it's not fair of me because when you're not here, i know you're still doing work. i get that. i don't want to be unfair. however, i will say -- let me say this. with everything on the line, everything in this tax reform package, it seems odd to me that that light isn't on behind me in the capitol dome and you aren't there doing a lot of work. does that strike you as strange? >> well, thank you for having me on, laura. we finished today a package out of the house ways and means committee. it's ready to go to the house floor. members are getting the information. again, things don't just shut down. we've been talking as i've been traveling back to ohio with members. so members are getting a briefing. they've seen a lot of it already this week while we did it. next week we'll get it moved out of the house. we're going to continue to do our work in the house.

we hope the senate continues to do their work. the goal is to get the package done by the end of the year. >> laura: jason, i don't want to be petty here. but i do think that it requires individuals to be in town in the same room to hammer stuff out. yeah, you can work at home. i understand that. but a lot of days where the session isn't happening and we didn't do obamacare repeal, we flopped out at that. everybody left town. a lot of nominations have gotten stalled. i think key people in session, the democrats will confirm the nominees, no? >> remember when mitch mcconnell in july said we're going to work deep into august to get the people confirmed. then they went on recess. paul ryan with all due respect to the speaker a couple weeks ago said we're going to work hard and stay through christmas. he did that the day before they went on a 11-day recess.

the problem is, when you see the ways and means committee taking a huge important vote to pass something out, only to have the senate step on their toes, almost to the same hour saying hey, that bill is going to be dead on arrival and by the way we're going to introduce the corporate reduction in taxes, we want to do that a couple years from now, are they talking to each other? wide receivers running into each other to use a football analogy. that's the problem. >> laura: congressman, that issue of delaying the corporate tax rate cut for at least i guess a year, that's the senate's idea of how to save money, that is a big chunk of the money that would go right in to juicing the economy, correct? they want to delay that. that is a big deal. how do you bridge that gap? >> well, absolutely. i have to tell you as we were moving the bill forward and talking about it as of last night, i was not going to support it this morning if we are going to delay it.

i believe we have to do it as soon as we can. we have to get the economy growing as quickly as we can. we have to get the tax cuts for middle income taxpayers as quickly as we can. that's why it's so important that we do it on day one. so i'm a big advocate of that. i'm glad to see the chairman held to that. that's one of the reasons that we have the difference between the house version and the senate version. the chairman of ways and means, kevin brady was good about making sure he listened to the members as we move this forward. that was a key point. we wanted to have it done january 1. we did not want to delay it. >> laura: jason, again, seven tax brackets in the senate bill. seven. four in the house bill. muck around a little bit in the house with the mortgage interest deduction. they leave it at a million dollars in the senate bill. i don't know. i'm not sure that they're going to get to a meeting of the minds here. if they don't, they can -- they can kiss 2018 good-bye.

they don't get something meaningful passed, forget about it. i don't see how you can ask the voters to vote for you again. >> i was a chairman. we said we would work hard. on the day the president is sworn in, they could have healthcare and tax reform. the treasury secretary saying tax reform done by -- >> laura: got to do it. >> just win, baby. that's what al davis said. >> laura: don't go away. we'll be back in just a moment.

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