thank you for being with us, thank you for being with us on fox news channel. laura ingraham, hi. high. >> laura: good evening everyone come up from washington, thanks for joining us, this is "the ingraham angle." ♪ >> laura: we have so much news every tonight but we can only take one hour. we have an infuriating opening segment for you. congress is spending your money to cover up sexual harassment and do some major developing stories for you on other fronts. president trump returned moments ago from his 12 day trip to asia, will have a report on what he's doing next and wire immigration agents complaining about the presidents. attorney general jeff sessions testified before congress about

possible investigations into hillary clinton and that uranium one deal. what's coming? will tell you. but first our atop a story, sexual harassment inside the halls of congress and how you're paying for the secret settlements. sexual misconduct scandals have engulfed hollow hollywood, medd now politics. the youth been funding the congressional harassment settlements for decades. between 1997 in 2014, hundreds of women have been paid $15.2 million in total in awards and settlements for capitol hill workplace violations. the house administration committee held a hearing on the matter yesterday. >> there are two members of congress, republican and

democrat right now, who serve who have been subject to review or not have been subject to review but have been engaged in sexual harassment. >> the youngest staffer is a young woman, went there and is greeted by a member in a towel. at that point, he decided to expose himself. she left and then she quit her job. >> laura: joining us of our reaction is a jenny beth martin, she is a cofounder of tea party patriots, a new piece on this scandal. and it's got to mold and, former chairman of the democratic party and a former crimes prosecutor. this is so ridiculous. $15.2 million and this is started by a senator i really

respect and admire, a chuck grassley, what was the thinking behind this? will go through the procedures women have to go through. >> it was part of the congressional accountability ac act. >> they were trying to make sure that they had at several other laws, they wanted to create something to deal with sexual harassment. in doing this, they have instituted a culture of corruption, they have created much more intimidation for people who want to step forward. >> laura: this is the offense of compliance, first the victims have 180 days to complain, that's not bad. you should get a little bit more if you are traumatized. victims who wants to continue must start at 30 of mediation.

they force you into mediation but finally the office of compliance does the mediation it's all confidential. if the problem of course is pushing women into mediation. it seems to be geared toward stopping the claim. if i look at this as a former attorney, this is pushing -- you don't really want to file this. >> this is about power. when i first read this i said what are they counseling the women on? either it happened or it didn't happen but this is all about power. elected officials on the hill, the other thing that you didn't show is the lack of disclosure unless they go to court. it's all very confidential and it's all about taking care of each other. as opposed to pulling the sheets off of it, and we have a problem. i think republicans and

democrats have a chance to lead by fixing best. >> laura: it's a harsh slush fund. don't say anything. >> its mandatory counseling. if you've been traumatized, do you want your employer mandating you can go to counseling before you go to mediation? >> laura: the house still hasn't really been able to push through changes, i know congresswoman speier she's right on this. they want to get bit of that weight time. >> in the amendment of this legislation on both sides, you've got to make it uncomfortable for bad behavior. you have to be intentional about it. one of the most shocking things you lead with was that the public tax dollars are paying for these settlements. a little less than a million a year. you know what? if you remove that rule and make the congressman get employment

or defense insurance, i tell you, you would force a lot less of this bad behavior. that hits them where their pocketbooks are. >> laura: there was a point in this research that i was reading today, apparently i congresswoman was warning about the congressman who sleep in their offices. i don't know if that's fair, because i know some who sleep in their offices and they are great people, but apparently that's a problem. what is really going on here? is it's just the usual stuff, you get into a position of power, they didn't have a lot of checks, then it's all these 22-year-old gals running around. i remember being in the white house elevator during the reagan administration and strom thurmond made a few interesting comments to me and i was 22 years old. i was laughing, is not a big

deal. you don't want to chill the workplace, that's something i am worried about. you can't say to someone you look at great, nice dress. i know men who are afraid to have any interaction at any time with a woman alone because it ten years later, even if you didn't do anything you could be accused -- where do you go to defend yourself? you can't go anywhere to defend yourself. you can't make it still sterile and antiseptic, that no one even enjoys the job. if you're so afraid of saying anything. >> you always have to be careful, the reality is women are standing up now in the last six months to a year and a saying that meat too. difference, you see each of these industries go whether it's hollywood or industry, now you're saying the government. if they won't lead on this, where in the space, the hypocrisy bucket if you well.

>> laura: chuck grassley said if this law isn't working you should revise it. why did it take so long for this to get so much notice? is at harvey weinstein and all of the other stuff? >> i think that may be coming. it's intimidating, if you are a woman who has been harassed by a member of congress, you need to be able to address that and to have it handled, not to be told you must go to counseling, you must go to mediation, it's all designed to shame the woman. whether it's intentional or not, you wind up shaming the victim. >> harvey weinstein went around trying to get nondisclosures.

let's not forget men and young boys have been victimized here, abused, often times this happens in hollywood but not only hollywood. i've been hearing about this for a long time. we are talking about congress here in washington, this is across the board. it's people in positions of power who usually have some problem within themselves, they have no self-esteem or their father didn't love them. i don't know what it is. they don't know how to treat people. maybe, just maybe will learn how to treat people better. >> that's transparency that were talking about, it's going to make it uncomfortable. this is a place of power, careers are made or lost. you've got to make it a safe space for women and men who are victimized by sexual harassment to come forward, to be detected.

if there is transparency, i think you'll see less bad behavior. >> laura: there are people who make false charges, it does happen. you can't say anyone who makes a charge were going to throw laurels around your neck it's not necessarily the case. you do have a presumption of innocence. sometimes in this climate it's so white-hot, i'm not talking why more, i'm talking in general. if a woman who seems barely credible makes a charge, your career is over. >> if you've been accused of it, you have to be given the opportunity to defend yourself and clear your name. you can't just try everything in the court of public opinion, there has to be a proper proces process. >> laura: are you going to go into congress and have all these interns running around if you think that my gosh, at any moment, i open the door for someone, i'm going to be accused of being demeaning. you've got to be careful how you

do this. you can go way overboard on the other side. >> one way to address that issue, as a former sex crimes prosecutor, we would require corroboration. in cases where there is no scientific evidence, there is no corroboration whether it was more about sexual touching or not it still has to be corroborated i think that standard would be good in congress too. then you have that balance. congressmen want to get reelected, they don't want bad press. >> laura: i have a question about that with sex crimes. and how many cases, it's usually men, its his substance abuse involved? >> your testing my memory, over 50%, i don't know how much. there are other socioeconomic factors that come into play. getting women to come forward and prosecute if the father and the husband is the top of the

breadwinner or is needed at home with the kids. i've got to tell you some women in that position don't feel like they have many choices and they dropped charges against the very people who have abused them. >> a lot of times abuse is simply about power. it's not about sex it's about power. >> laura: thanks for coming. new followed in the roy moore scandal, how will alabama voters deal with washington meddling in the state senate race? roy moore just addressed the controversy moments ago, it will controversy moments ago, it will yliberty mutual saved us almost eight hundred dollars when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey. oh. that's my robe. is it? you could save seven hundred eighty two dollars when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance.

>> i'm the only one that can unite democrats and republicans. [laughter] because i'm being deposed by both. if they spent over $30 million to try to take me out. >> laura: those comments by roy moore just moments ago after uneventful and chaotic day in the alabama senate race. the republican national committee has announced it is withdrawing support for his candidacy and pulling out of a joint fund-raising agreement for the alabama special election. this is all in response to multiple allegations that he had

made unwanted sexual allegations. sentiment majority legal mitch mcconnell is floating the idea of attorney general jeff sessions returning to his old senate seat. >> the attorney general is totally well-known. i haven't spoken from the president, he called me from a vietnam, i talked to general kelly on saturday. obviously were in discussion, about how to salvage this seat if possible. >> laura: is not all bad news for judge moore, alabama republican party chairwoman has not turned on him yet. she told local media that it would be a serious error for any current elected g.o.p. official or candidate to publicly endorse another party's candidate, an independent or a third party candidate in a general election.

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the senate, if he gets the most votes come as a plurality winner on december 12.

>> if you're someone in the south across you as this is the old guard telling him they are a bunch of hayseed types. he succeeded, this is another example of the elites kicking people like us around. >> i think this is congress reaping the fact that wildly unpopular. they don't have the trust of the american people, they are not in a position to say this is an extraordinary circumstance. we want to take the high road here, we want to do an investigation. i do think they need to take it

seriously. articulate if they want to say were better than the democratic party who is constantly apologizing for their guys when they get accused of this kind of thing. >> laura: monica, need we go back to the menendez trial. there was a time when daily news and a lot of publications went with them. allegedly he took trips to the dominican republic and had sexual relationships with underage hookers, i don't recall a single democrat calling for his resignation. the democrats seem to cover for their own. >> democrats have always protected their candidates and protected their presidents for a really long time. republicans always went into the circular file ring squad.

i think what makes these cases so different is that we are in a completely different cultural moment with all of these stories of sexual harassment coming out of hollywood and the media elites. given this moment, these folks cannot survive it. even folks at the high ends of leadership of both parties are no longer saying that this is acceptable. and are less willing to cover for these folks. you are seeing is now happening on both sides. in the roy moore situation in many ways, he is going to be a casualty of this moment. perhaps he may have survived. donald trump and the tail end of the campaign with the access hollywood tapes, he was able to harness a boomerang effect where people felt that was a pylon and rallied around him. donald trump was an exceptional figure. i'm not sure that roy moore is

going to be able to do it. >> secretary of state, i want to close out with you. and your explanation right now i know you are standing behind roy moore. does he stay in this race? does he get elected? >> i think it would be highly unusual for judge moore to step aside. that would be against every type of example that he has set. i don't see him getting out of the race. >> laura: does he win? >> i'll tell you it's going to be extremely close. i hear mixed reviews all around the state of alabama. this is a very disconcerting time for our state. this is not how we like to be featured in the national limelight. >> laura: i'm going to hold over catherine and monica because president trump just a short time ago returned to washington after that a very long 12 day, five nation asia trip where america's trade deals were a major topic.

were going to go right to it right now. >> president trump: from a standpoint of security, very proud and trade, you will see numbers that you won't believe over the years. they will be treating us much differently than i have in the past. people were taking advantage, countries were taking advantage of the united states. those days are over. we are going to be fair and reciprocal as i said in my remarks before. if they are doing it, we're doing it. >> laura: what did you think about this trip? give us your assessment. >> i'm glad the president didn't do anything that isn't fundamentally reversible. he was going to make good on his campaign promises, go to asia and let the whole thing on fire. he's been quite clear that he doesn't like the status quo in

terms of u.s. trade agreements and asia. >> laura: do you like the status quo? >> i like the status quo. >> laura: which part of a $350 billion trade deficit do you like? >> i like more open trade, the idea of thinking about in terms of deficits is wrongheaded. >> laura: you can buy a $7.99 that pair of pants? it fundamentally changes the country. >> i don't think it changes the country. >> laura: you don't have a problem with enriching -- every president put in tariffs. barack obama, bill clinton, ronald reagan when their goal is to get a one-upsmanship on other nations. >> laura: you don't think america should have a one-upsmanship attitude toward other nations? if they want to sell it we should be allowed to buy it. >> laura: you don't think bilateral trade agreements are

better? >> i don't want to see us pulling back from the world at a time when we are anxious and we are not necessarily good to make it. >> laura: i see what she's saying but i don't see any indication that donald trump is pulling back from the rest of the world. he went to saudi arabia, israel, went to see the pope, did the trip to europe. he's on to asia. i think his foreign trips have been pretty successful, especially the trip to visit our nato allies, i think this trip turned out great. >> i totally agree. i think in some ways he's much more effective. his speeches abroad have been absolutely magnificent. what he was able to accomplish on this asia trip has been quite extraordinary. what we are hearing behind closed doors, this president applied a lot of pressure on the chinese leadership.

there are two main issues that he was there to discuss. we are talking about trade and the structural trade imbalance with a chinese that has been in place now for decades. it's going to be incredibly difficult to reverse. what the president is saying is i need to deal with structural trade imbalance, i'm going to do it with economic and trade policy tools. >> laura: he also turned up the heat on north korea. and it told the chinese we need your help, we need real help and we are not going to be patsies on the trade deal. the only country we can't have a relationship with his russia. chinese communists are great but the russians are the worst. everyone who says we should do more with china why should we work more with russia? >> what the president was able to do, and we'll see if this bears fruit. he coupled the north korea

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disgusting sexual jokes touching on his own proclivities yet jon stewart offered this response when questioned on "the today show" ." >> what was the impact on you when you heard not only the accusations but his admission? >> stunned, i think, you give your friend the benefit of the doubt. >> laura: you are stunned about the accusations and revelations. i heard the man's act for 3 minutes and knew he was a total perv. i guess mr. daily show wasn't as well-informed as we all thought. the only thing i can support is his autism fund-raiser which is great. he was dealt another setback today, international distributors announced they were joining their american

counterparts and dropping distribution of his latest movie, i love you daddy which is another filthy thing and i'm sure it will be available on his website. all the dirty old men who chase underage girls can have a good laugh, what a degenerate. attorney general jeff sessions was in the hot seat today testifying before the house judiciary committee house judiciary committee. republicans wanted to know why the justice department hasn't investigated hillary clinton's scandal. surprise surprise, they spent their time focusing on their patents statements about meetings with russians. >> you made statements at the meeting, i pushed back. i can't be put into a position where i can't explain. i'm not going to be able to answer if i can't answer it completely. >> did donald trump ever ask you

to pledge a oath of loyalty? >> no. >> if he were to ask you to pledge loyalty to him or take such an oath, would you do so? >> i don't know what date loyalty oath is, i met with the ambassador in my office with at least two of my staff, sr., respected patriots. nothing improper occurred at al all. >> once and for all can we answer the question? >> i don't understand why you won't take the answer. >> laura: joining us is andy bigs, republican of arizona. i think what i would do if i was a member of congress, but this took the cake. jeff sessions is sitting there and every five seconds, from a democrat, you are lying.

you really met with the russian russians. give us a sense inside that room. >> your exactly right. it showed the stark difference between the republicans were trying to get the attorney general to do something and the democrats are fixated on trying to paint ms some kind of line colluded with russia with no evidence. it's just amazing to me. >> laura: we invited her on but she's in a briefing about the tax reform bill. let's talk about that flash point today and will play the sound bite. this is congressman jim jordan who was on with us last night. i think this is probably the most interesting moment at today's hearing. >> if you know just considering,

what's it going to take to get a special counsel? we know that a former fbi director james comey misled the american people when he called it the clinton investigation. >> it would be a factual basis that would meet the standards. >> that's what it looks like and i'm asking you, doesn't that war and in addition to all of the things we know about james comey in 2016, doesn't that warmth naming a special's counsel? >> it looks like there's not enough basis to appoint a special counsel. >> laura: are you on the special counsel bandwagon, because there's an argument >> it would be a factual basis that would meet the standards. >> that's what it looks like and i'm asking you, doesn't that war and in addition to all of the things we know about james comey in 2016, doesn't that warmth naming a special's counsel? >> it looks like there's not enough basis to appoint a special counsel. >> laura: are you on the special counsel bandwagon, because

persuasive. >> you gotten attorney general who has stepped away from it. we have to get to the bottom of this. we know that there is of interest in his office, we need a special prosecutor in my opinion, i think jim is right. we've been waiting for a long time. yesterday we get the notice saying we consider it. >> laura: doesn't that look as a tit-for-tat, it looks like to some people, a special counsel to go after hillary. jeff sessions isn't recused from anything involving hillary clinton

wasn't berg who was ken stars deputy into bill clinton's scandal. take it away, let's talk first about the idea of a special counsel. andy mccarthy makes a compelling case with this issue

about uranium one, hillary's emails, a well-respected prosecutor could handle this case well. >> i agree with andy 100%. this ample investigation, based on the clinton foundation, the $500,000 during the consideration of uranium one, $145 million to the clinton foundation. everything involving all of the things you listed especially the email server involving mrs. clinton. there is no doubt that the standard justice department criminal division can handle us there's no need for a special counsel. by the way, what i found fascinating about the attorney general's answers today is when there is a sufficient factual predicate for a special counsel, guess what? there is no factual predicate for robert mueller, there's been no crime ever announced that he was investigating. if you were going to do a

special counsel you can do it if you want to. i would give it to the criminal division and let them run with it. there's plenty of predicate, lots of information. >> laura: with all your experience with ken stars investigation, you know how these things start. they start as one thing, they become something much bigger. we don't have an independent counsel now, the statute has expired but we can still appoint a special counsel. with all the questions on how they were trying to influence and stop witnesses from testifying before congress, the shady dealings with bribery and kickbacks involved with at either radium one. 20% of uranium to the russians. i think anyone off the street would say that was a crazy idea. >> let's focus on whether or not a special counsel would be appropriate and i disagree with joe on this. i think the special counsel regulation is relatively vague. it's as if there's a conflict of interest or extraordinary

circumstance -- here you have president trump who has repeatedly called for his justice department to investigate this issue and we are just talking about a special counsel would be appropriate and i disagree with joe on this. i think the special counsel regulation is relatively vague. it's as if there's a conflict of interest or extraordinary circumstance -- here you have president trump who has repeatedly called for his justice department to investigate this issue and we are just talking about uranium one, i'm not talking about fusion gps because that's already within mueller's purvie purview. president trump is saying you need to investigate. if the session says i'm going

one, i'm not talking about fusion gps because that's already within mueller's purvie purview. president trump is saying you need to investigate. if the session says i'm going to find somebody within doj to do it, the democrats are going to cry foul and say this is outrageous, you're doing this for political reasons. on the other hand, if sessions takes a look at it and says i don't think there's anything there, the people on the right are going to scream and say that's bob rosenstein is involved and he was u.s. attorney in maryland when some of this stuff took place. i think there are extraordinary circumstances, you can have a lot of the stuff of running around about t well respected, y no means automatic. senator danforth didn't expand his investigation into waco, he kept it very limited. i understand what you're saying, what joe was saying, these investigations can get out of hand. it's a true but here the president like he hasn't so many situations unfortunately by opening his mouth has made things much more difficult for jeff sessions. >> laura: it's better for him to hang back. i think we all probably agree with that. it's better for the president not to comment on ongoing investigations, do you agree was back ? >> my point is very simple.

the clinton foundation, all the kickbacks require an investigation. if there is no existing a sufficient predicate for a federal grand jury. there has been one for more than four years. i don't give a who investigates it, it needs to be investigated. >> laura: when we come back, i.c.e. agents are now up in arms, why they say obama era holdovers are causing havoc and even putting agents lives at risk,

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>> laura: welcome back, in a surprising move, the union that represents i.c.e. officers has launched a new website claiming that president trump has betrayed them. the national ice council endorsed him in the 2016 election but the group is now upset that the trump administration has been slow to reverse the policies of the obama years. a post on the website reads in part "while officers view the presidents position on enforcement as courageous, the trump administration has left all of the obama managers and leadership in place. tensions are on the rise between trump's army and holdovers." joining us now is david ward, a

board member of the national association of border patrol officers, a reporter with the washington times wrote about this today. this is odd, something we've heard about today in other departments, what is the percentage of obama holdovers still working with immigrations customs enforcement. >> they left it vague for now, they went through a number of different issues. the website is fascinating, not only does it give this sort of overall sense for the obama holdovers, it gives it a bunch of different examples. including an incident in philadelphia where a nice officer wanted to a very bad neighborhood in philadelphia were told they had to remove their bulletproof vests to make an arrest because it would offend the community. >> laura: defends the

i.c.e. officers when they get shot because they are not dwelling a bulletproof vest for fear that it will offend one of the illegal immigrants. this is insanity. >> we've lost over 162 immigration agents killed in the line of duty. for a manager to come up with an order such as that to take off their bulletproof vests because they are going into a neighborhood is insane. that manager and those people involved should be removed from office for incompetency. >> laura: do we have any idea how many obama holdovers are clogging the administration here at the immigrations customs enforcement? the website is fuzzy on this, we don't know how many is it, is a 12 [buzzer] is at 500? what are we talking about? >> the trump administration has been in office and the swamp is big and fast, it's going to take time to weed out those that are

sworn to their office as the oath that they took, those that have sworn to globalism which brought us sanctuary cities and lack of enforcement of title eight. it's going to take a wild to weed those people out. >> laura: let's talk about how the priorities of president trump and obama differed. whether you have the right people in place, that's infuriating. i remember the i.c.e. officers during obama's two terms, the morale was horribly low because they wanted to do their jobs and they were held back. >> i think there is a single department and not a single agency weather has been as big a change in the culture between the obama administration and trump administration. we did calculations. upwards of 80% of illegal immigrants were put out-of-bounds for deportation because of the priorities that the administration, the previous administration set out.

the rest of the 11 million illegal immigrants are at least potential targets for deportation, it's made a huge difference for the i.c.e. officers they've talked about. they will admit, they are thrilled with that overall direction they are getting president trump. the issue is the specific decisions such as the philadelphia one and there's a case out of utah where they are told they have to give a heads up before they go into the community, and some cases seven days before they go out to make arrest. when they finally get there, the targets there -- they absolutely appreciate the difference in the top-down direction. >> laura: i remember a couple of years back when the border patrol under obama were told they couldn't shoot at a vehicle

that was attempting to run them down. that was one of the other crazy things. they don't make a lot of money, they are trying to do their job, it's very dangerous. often times very remote areas. they are being targeted by illegal immigrants trying to get into the country because they are all valedictorians, i know that. i guess these i.c.e. officers have to jump out of the way and hope for the best. >> under the eight years of the previous administration, immigration became the most dysfunctional i've seen in 34 years. when trump came into office, apprehension rate went up 34% in the first four months. they have to do their jobs that they took an oath to do. now we need to get managers in there that are going to back these men up under the same guidelines by standing up for the oath that they took and follow the law.

title eight is very clear. trump has been criticized about creating things when in fact he hasn't. the immigration law has been on the book since day one, the democrats, the previous administration refused to go by it. jay johnson was loath to even read the book, let alone let guys get out and do their jobs. we have an administration now, it's going to take time to clean out the swamp -- another thing, he is faced with the obstruction of congress and the senate of getting his appointees into office. >> laura: we are out of time on that but he has to get his people in place, he's not going to eliminate all the what started as a passion... ...has grown into an enterprise. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. now, i'm earning unlimited 2% cash back on every purchase i make. everything. what's in your wallet?

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populace in the old establishment. as you just heard in our previous blog, we are still fighting those same battles today, amazing. that is it for us tonight, shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team takes things from here. miss shannon, where are you, i don't see you, she's not there. feeling can you hear me, can you see me? we are here. >> laura: this is like a disembodied voice. i love that. shannon is in another studio, she's like over there come over there, where she? >> shannon: not far away, we are together in spirit. great show tonight. >> laura: have a great show. >> shannon: thank you. here's what we're doing tonight. >> announcer: tonight, attorney general jeff sessions takes a grilling and vows to follow the law when it comes to investigating the clintons and uranium one. >> it will be done without political influence. >> is that enough for republican congressman louie gohmert's, who believes the scandal has deep roots all over washington? we will ask them. >> bill clinton has been a great voice for women in public and a great violator of women in