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says the price tag makes it the most expensive ever sold. >> $450 million. >> somebody is happy this morning. a little poorer. >> yeah. i don't think that person has to worry about being poor. thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" is right now. >> fox news alert. it's a big vote on capitol hill. we've been talking about it. house republicans plan to take up their version of tax reform today. they are meeting with the president of the united states right now. he's gone to the hill. he's counting on congress to get a critical legislative victory by the end of 2017. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris foxner. melissa francis is here. marie hart is here. kennedy is hear. and today's #oneluckyguy. former cia officer and radio host, buck sexton.
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you're out numbered. but you say you feel at home. >> very comfortable here on the couch. >> welcome to our house. the house expected to vote on tax reform today. president trump is on capitol hill right now meeting with house republicans. gop leaders are confident they have the votes to pass their tax bill. here's house majority leader kevin mccarthy. >> going to lower rates, eliminate the alternative tax, close loop holes and have more money in the individual's pockets. you have to be strong enough to defend that and move forward. in the long run you win. >> not everybody is on board. it's politics. at issue, the plan in the house is to erase tax deductions for state and local incomes and to cap local property tax deductions at $10,000. representatives from high tax states like new york and new jersey are not thrilled with it. their no votes won't be enough to stop the bill.
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peter king says the legislation could hurt them in the mid-terms. >> this would give ammunitions to democrats to use against us. it's unfair. we're leading the fight against it. but it puts us on defense. that's a self-inflicted wound. >> we want to bring you this breaking news. we've been following senator menendez in new jersey who is up on 18 counts. the jury is deadlocked. this is after one juror left on a long-time planned vacation. they replaced that person and they're still deadlocked. why is this so important? the democrats don't want to lose a voice among their senators at a critical time. it looks like maybe menendez would not participate in important votes if he's still up after more than 35 days this case has gone on. >> and also if we were to be
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convicted, which obviously right now looks like a coin toss given how long the deliberations have gone on, then the democrats would be forced to reckon with -- are they going to remove a sitting u.s. senator from office who would at that point be a convicted felon, which would have the added political reality of chris christie is still the governor of new jersey. >> but not for long. >> that's exactly the point. he would be able to appoint somebody in the interim and they don't want that to happen. so they're looking to maybe hold out until a new governor is seated. >> the new democratic governor will take office next year. if menendez will hold out -- i don't know. the trial has been going 35 days. >> they'll keep him in -- >> if he gets a retrial, which is a possibility, politically that would be great nor the democrats. >> well into 2018. >> this is interesting. the juror that left because he or she had a long-term -- my
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point is that you're giving an interview. that's how we know who this person is a and what they said. the context was, i think menendez is innocent from this juror that left. we know they were having problems. the judge gave them extra time. we have wakened many of a day is this the day. this won't be the day. they're deadlocked. >> what was so interesting about what she said, the take people have. it's how do you prove pay for play? you know, this juror came out and said, it sounded like they were friends. they were doing things because they were friends. so you know, to me, it's not something he's guilty about but some people say he's guilty. reminds you of the gray area in a lot of people's minds. it's a regular person with no sort of political horse in the race. >> please forgive me. i'm looking at my phone. it's day 38.
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it's not just that this case has gone on, kennedy, it's been in this suspended animation for quite some time. >> yeah. it's like having a baby and being eight days overdue. you just don't know when you're going to give birth. >> i think it's more painful than that. >> the menendez trial. >> perhaps it is. >> interestingly the map in the senate is up for grabs in two ways. you have a fraud trial. there's a sitting republican governor that doesn't have very long until he leaves office. but you also have the case in alabama that we're going to discuss later in the show with roy moore who so far is not dropping out of the race. >> and could potentially have another one with al franken. we don't know. the judge in new jersey says he's not going to declare a mistrial right this second. he wants to interview the foreman. he said i thought i would be candidate with you, quoting judge. there's no cameras in the courtroom but we have our news team in there.
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so they're sending us notes. your honor, the reason it would not be futile, the jury is under the impression they need to reach a unified vote. so they're going back and forth with defense. they're having a conversation in the courtroom. day 38. >> they need to know if they have to be unanimous on all of the counts or -- that's the big back and forth. post bob mcdonald who was prosecuted for way less than menendez. menendez had women flown in from overseas, a $90 million medicare scam that is funding this for him. it looks bad. it's amazing there's not more coverage. post mcdonald, what is a quid pro quo. the standard was elevated by the supreme court there. this is a case where they're determining what is the quid pro quo?
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>> exactly. >> i want to go to our reportner the field. david lee miller. i've been reading the notes there. tell us what is happening. >> i left the courtroom just moments ago, harris. there was a note from the jury at about 11:30 a.m. the jury in great detail told the court that it is now deadlocked. the attorney for robert menendez told the court "we have a for-real hung jury." the defense here is arguing the judge should declare a mistrial. the prosecution meanwhile said that this new jury -- by that he means the jury in place since monday when an alternate was placed -- has been deliberating for three days and it's premature. the judge was also asked by the prosecution to tell the jury that they can deliver a partial
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verdict. the judge said based on the note that doesn't seem like an instruction that would make any sense. the gap here is just too broad, too wide. there's too many despairent views and he wouldn't order a partial verdict. the judge has indicated he wants to interview the foreman of the year to hear in his words that the jury is deadlocked. what will likely happen then, after he speaks with the foreman of the year, the judge then may actually want to speak to the individual other 11 members of the jury polling them. not to hear so much whether they were going to vote for an acquittal or for guilt, but to hear in their words that the jury is deadlocked. it's increasingly likely it's moving in that direction. what should be noted, harris, this has been a 11-week trial.
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the jury has deliberated now for more than 30 hours. millions of dollars has been spent, and now if there is a mistrial, the government is going to have to decide if they are going to try robert menendez once again starting from scratch. harris? >> you know, all of this fits together. if you don't take into account that they were almost at the same point last week with the jury with the longstanding vacation held out and they replaced that person. it's interesting even though they replaced a person that told the media that he or she thought that menendez was innocent, you still are deadlocked. what is being said about that? >> well, we have no idea what has happened inside the jury room. what is notable, monday, we got a note from the jury saying that i were deadlocked. since then, we've heard absolutely nothing from the jury. they did not ask for a read-back of any of the testimony.
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they did not ask to examine any of the exhibits. the jury has been presumably deliberating, talking among themselves. how wide the gap is, we don't know. what are the issues? we don't know. as you indicated, the juror who was dismissed last week because she had a long planned vacation gave multiple interviews to the media saying the jury was going to be deadlocked and also saying that her personal view is that robert menendez should be acquitted. there's others with a different perspective. at this point in time, the senator still in the courtroom behind me. we expect that if there is a mistrial declared, he will come out and speak. back to you. >> david lee miller, we'll come back as the news warrants. big story right now. the president of the united states is on capitol hill. he's meeting right now with house speaker paul ryan and senate majority leader mitch
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mcconnell. they've been talking about what it takes previous to this to get the senate and the house versions to merge. would love to be a fly on the wall in all of this. there's a lot at stake today, melissa. >> oh, a lot at stake. they know they have to make this a win, however you can do it. chopping down some of the details, if you look at a -- a lot of people are looking at the penalty you pay if you didn't buy obamacare, stripping that away. 58% of the funds that are paid as penalty are paid by the bottom 50%. if you strip away the mandate, a lot of people losing coverage. you have to wonder if these people were willing to pay a tax, which remember, the supreme court declared that this was a tax, that is why we're allowed to talk about it in reconciliation now. if people believe that was a tax and they would rather pay it rather than buying insurance they don't want, can't use, can't afford, whatever it is, this seems like it could be a step in the right direction.
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>> a senator told me in the finance committee, they met before they began their hashing out and finishing their senate tax. the irs is the one that provided the numbers about who is paying the penalty. >> so they slide this in. the house has not been -- they've said they don't have this in their version that they already put up for a vote or going to put up for a vote. it does the mean they can add it. >> the only reason they don't have it is because they thought the senate wouldn't accept it. now that the senate has approved turfing the mandate, the house will obviously accept it.
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they're right to do it. if this is what it took to dismantle obamacare, why didn't they do this in the first place? why did they waste so much time -- >> why do you think? >> because they were trying to tinker with it and offer an alternative. what it does, yes, four million of those people -- the estimate is between 4 and 6.5 million. you're right. but the reality is, those people don't want insurance. they don't want insurance. >> the senate bill might not pass, guys. >> too much insurance for young, healthy people. >> the affordability -- >> the exchanges cost much more -- >> the senate bill might not pass. might not pass because of this provision. they're on a razor thin -- >> the senate version might not pass because of what? >> collin murkowskis and others are concerned about this being included. collins has been open about it. >> before commercial break, i
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want to give buck our last word. do you think there's any democrats to make up a deficit if republicans get over the line and move two people? >> no. at this point they're all in in opposition. they'll view this as keeping points off the board. doesn't remember what the final house or senate bill is, democrats will oppose it because the narrative going into the beginnings of the mid-term cycle, republicans can't get anything done. everything else is details. >> hanging in the balance, the american people. anyway, moving on. more controversy in the alabama senate race. roy moore is facing more accusers as resistance builts. given to the hillary clinton e-mail investigation that appears to contradict something james comey said.
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>> fox news alert. new information about hillary clinton, her e-mail scandal and whether a special counsel should be assigned to investigate her. >> that was the president and of course he's just met with paul ryan and senate leader mitch mcconnell. i'm listening. he just told everybody that the talks are going well so far. he's there because he sees like a presidential whipper for the votes. he's there to find out whether or not they've got them and he wants to make sure that he can push the tax reform over the hump with his motivation of being there on capitol hill. if both sides, the senate and the house, can get together and possibly hand him something for his desk at the end of the year. that's been the rally call from the president. he wanted something before thanksgiving from the house. they're going to take a vote later this afternoon. he could get that. but can he get the total package
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from both chambers on the hill for him to sign before christmas? that's the big question. it's always a big deal when the president puts his toe in the water to see what the temperature is. it's a bigger deal when he makes his presence known in person. an interesting shot of the floor there. >> very clean, polished. >> nice marble. did we pay for that? >> you bet we did. we're waiting for the president to reemerge. he's meeting with leaders on capitol hill so he can talk with them, take their temperature on where they are. who does he need to talk to. >> is this a hidden camera pro show? >> who does he need to talk to, buck, to make sure the nos that are outstanding that he can soften, gauge, who is having a problem like with salt? >> yeah. state and local looms. in the short term, republicans
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are thinking sure, we can lose state and local. longer term, there would be fall-out from it. in the meantime -- >> can i pause you? i think that people may have a different understanding. so what you're saying there's a long-term effect if people in high tax states can't deduct their state taxes on their fell income? that's the provision the state has wiped away. why is that important and what the long-term looks like. >> the state and local deduction has been around a long time because a lot of the blue states that have it say they contribute more to the federal government than other states that are bigger recipients of federal largess. this is a political issue for the states that do have it. peter king, republicans, but they're from blue states but they want to make sure it's out of it. on trump and why he's speaking to everybody right now, i think that the optics are just that president trump wants everyone
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to know that this is not on him. the congress has to know it's not on him. >> no, no. i disagree. >> until they put something in front of him and he refuses to sign it, the criticism -- >> no. >> i want to go to melissa. >> yeah, i disagree with you it's on him. he loves the role of deal maker. he wants to -- >> it's not on him. >> okay. it's not. >> you agree. >> we agree. >> he wants to -- no, he will get blamed in the long run. i don't think that's why he's out here. i disagree that's why he's out here and why he's talking. i think he's out there not because he wants to watch his hands of it but he wants to get in deeper and he wants to make sure a deal is done and make sure a deal happens in the box between what the house and put forward and the senate has put forward. he's happy to agree somewhere. he will take the blame if it doesn't work -- >> senate republicans take the place. they're dropping the ball, this
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is -- >> everybody does -- >> no. the house will pass it. they have the votes. kevin brady has done an about face on the salt deductions. he's done an about face on those as much as he can. the point is with the president visiting capitol hill, he didn't do enough on healthcare and that's where he got some blame. he didn't do enough personal whipping. he sent vice president pence to do that and it wasn't enough. they realize how critical that face time is with the president and how much impact and influence that can have on senators that are on the fence like ron johnson. i think there's a way -- susan collins, you can write her off. someone like ron johnson, he's making a strong stand because he has specific points that he want to negotiate. i think there's a deal to be had there. >> to buck's point, there's 17 republican members of the house who are representing districts in california, new jersey or new york. 17. democrats only need to take 24 seats back to pick up the house. i'm not saying all of them will
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lose. peter king and his colleagues are concerned about this politically. the congressional nonpartisan analyst came out with more statistics that will race taxes on families that just came out before we came on air. there's political challenges to marrying the two versions to even getting this over the finish line in the senate. i also think president trump is probably talking to mitch mcconnell and paul ryan about the roy moore race. he has other business to do. >> until the congress presents president trump with something to sign and he fails to sign it, any criticism of trump not getting -- it's not really his legislative agenda. it's the legislature. he's pushing for it. until they put something in front of him -- >> no, #ditchmitch. that's very popular. mitch mcconnell will get the blame for this. that's part of this -- >> and it's not even nuance. they know who steve bannon is.
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they know the president doesn't-like mitch mcconnell. >> going into the mid-terms, absent that situation where he doesn't sign something, it's clear. after the mid-terms and by the way if we might have a democrat problem with them having control of one of the parts of congress -- >> uh-oh! >> yes. that's what you'll hear. unless trump fails to sign major legislation, it's not on him. that's fair, by the way. >> i want to tell everybody, remind them what we're looking at so they don't think we're sitting on this picture for no reason. it's because the president of the united states is on capitol hill. he just met with the two people that we mentioned, paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. the democrats are thirsty because they think they're about to see a flipping of bicameral leadership. we're all watching because it's our money they're fighting over
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and negotiating over. it is a fight when you consider the sticking points are a yes or no type thing. you can massage state and local taxes. if it's a yes or no on obamacare mandate, if it's a yes or no whether you have salt deductions, it's not a massaging. they're deal breakers for some. >> it's a huge deal. theoretically if you're a reason, you can't allow these cities to have these huge budgets like new york city where they're wasting money hand over fist. they're spending 25% more over de blasio than before and everything is worse. homelessness is worse. more trash on the streets -- >> don't even mention the subways. >> yeah. you can't allow new yorkers to deduct that. this causes me so much pain. it's going to cost me personally money, the salt thing. but you have to agree with the logic of it and the theory. you quoted that people that make
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$10,000 are going to pay -- >> between 10,000 and 75,000 the next decades. >> and people that make $10,000 don't pay any federal taxes. >> across the country. i'm speaking politically. that statistic when republicans said this will help the middle class, for the middle class, that statistic alone is tough to defend. >> the other things they have to come agreement on is when they roll in the deduction in corporate tax. do they want to do something like what ari fleischer told me recently, the former press secretary for g.w. bush, maybe they do 27.5 this year and lower it down to the 20 next year. who knows. we're watching all of it. these are our dollars that they're talking about. tax money. tax reform. potentially the biggest reform we've seen since reagan in the late 80s. we're watching for it, watching for the president to come out. he's told us once it's going well. what will he say next? our cameras are there. stay close. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient
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>> fox news alert. bomb shell allegations against al franken. that senator accused of groping and kissing a woman without her concert. she was asleep. 11 years ago. doug mckelway is live with the latest. doug? >> the accuser is lee anleanne tweeden. she alleged in 2006, al franken, who was not then a senator, wrote a comedy skit for her and him that included a sexual innuendo. he asked her to rehearse the skit. she said this is not "saturday night live" and refused to include the kiss in the rehearsals. he persisted and she ultimately gave in.
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>> he came at me. before i knew it, he put his hand on the back of my head and came towards me and mashed his face against my mouth and stuck his tongue in my mouth. i pushed him back and said don't ever do that to me again. i was so angry. i walked out of there. >> she said the tour wrapped up christmas eve. they boarded an air force
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franken grabbed her breasts that were covered by the kevlar vest. he appears to be touching the vest and posed for the frat boy-type of photo. back to you. >> thanks, doug. marie, i going to come to you first. not because he's a democratic senator but something you said. it's time for -- >> people to stop behaving badly. we need to believe women, we need to hold powerful men accountable. to this point, it's been all men who have been accused. and that goes for any party. democrats, republicans, independents. members of the senate, the house and the president who has been accused of things. we need in this country to have a discussion culturally. it's crossed all party lines.
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it's crossed into media, sports, crossed into comedy and entertainment. we have a problem. we talk about this a lot, harris. we have to start believing people when they say this is happening. taking it seriously. >> you know, kennedy, i'm looking back -- al franken has been married since 1975 to the same woman, franie. he was in couple a couple years later. the first part, being married, you have collateral damage. this matters, too. so on twitter as the #me2 campaign has going on, this is al franken. sexual violence is not taken lightly. we need to support survivors. kennedy? >> there's a strata of these things. one, when victims of stuff like this, see stories about harvey
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weinstein and roy moore and lord knows how many other names have been put forward lately, it's retraumatizes them and jostles memories. the problem is, there's so many men that have been accused of so much, the most egregious stories get lost in all of that. that's upsetting. there's a difference between someone being a complete buffoon like al franken and harvey -- >> and if he stuck his tongue down her throat, that's assault as well. it makes me think, he said it's supposed to be a joke. i have never understood humor when it's okay to be homophobic or okay to be racist or sexist when you make these jokes about groups of people. when it's okay to say that and
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you can't say -- >> like richard pryor. he will explain the difference. there's a big difference between someone being a comic and someone being a creep. al franken here is being a power structure, they field vulnerable -- d.c., capitol hill is up there. i don't think what we're hearing about franken is by any means the end of this. it's the beginning. there's a lot of improper stuff going on -- >> and probably a lot of people. yes, a lot of people nervous at remembering things that they have done years ago and when are those accusations going to come in. >> we're seeing a line move particularly on capitol hill. a lot of discussion about how
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they're going to within their own house, capitol hill or congress deal with complaints of sexual harassment and misconduct and so on and so forth. we move on. new accusers coming forward saying they're victims of alabama senator candidate roy moore. how roy moore's campaign is responding today. stay close.
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>> fox news alert. more controversy in the hotly contested alabama senate race. republican roy moore facing three more accusers alleging inappropriate behavior. his attorney demanding a handwriting analysis on the year book belongs to another of moore's accusers. all of this has him firing back on many fronts. releasing testimonials from a dozen womening re-affirming his
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character, this tweet at the senate majority leader has declared moore unfit for office. dear mitch mcconnell, bring it on! and the defiance building from his fellow republicans for him to step aside. lindsey graham says moore at a minimum was creepy. he's asking for the republican party to do the right thing. >> he was on the no fly list for a mall, which is stunning. it gets credibility to the allegations of these women. i would like the republican party of alabama to step up and fix this problem for the country and for the republican party. >> first daughter ivanka trump not holding back in an interview with the associated press saying "there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. i've yet to see a valid explanation and i have no reason to doubt the victim's account." just when you think you heard it all, we have this. politico reporting that the gop is asking luther strange to
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resign his senate seat to trigger a new special election. i'll go to you. you have to be thinking that everybody is sitting behind the scenes for a plan on how we're going to salvage this. what do you think? >> i do a syndicated radio show. we have a lot of callers calling in from alabama calling in. here's what they're overwhelmingly saying about this. let the people of alabama vote on this issue. let the people of alabama choose their senator and adjudicate this through the political process. that is the way it's set up right now. there will never be legal due process for the accused or the accusers. no one says this is going to trial. so the moment you start introducing what are considered to be outsider plans to influence even on the gop side, i'm saying there's a lot of push-back against that because it feels like the gop, whether it's the state of alabama or d.c., they're trying to muddy this up in a way they shouldn't.
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now i'm not an alabama voter. i feel like they would like the opportunity to make this judgment call at the ballot box themselves. they don't want someone stepping in with another plan. >> and they may end up electing a democrat. doug jones has polled within the margin of error. they're looking at these other options. buck is here. i don't think it will help the national establishment in the republican party who already has problems. the democrats could win this seat here. look, a lot of people have said even if doug jones wins, he's a very respectable candidate. when the election comes after this, the republicans will likely take it back. don't meddle in the process. a democrat may win, but roy moore going back to the previous segment, this is serious. these women are on the record.
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when you're having to defend a year book and go to a handwriting analysis -- >> louis gilmer, representative in texas, said he's been part as a legal representative of rape cases, sexual assault. he says 38 years is a long time to gather evidence. it would take a long time before they get an answer. but at the end of the day, if alabama makes the decision, senator john mccain has said that he thinks he could lead a coalition to constitutionally make sure that moore would not take his seat. >> come on. republicans -- >> should there be a situation where it was found that roy moore was guilty of something. so mccain's side is let alabama choose and let the senate unseat. from what you're saying and from what you're going to say, kennedy, none of it respects the voter's vote but i don't know how they'll do it. >> it's wildly hypocritical of anyone in the gop to say we don't like the outcome of this election.
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therefore we're going to use extra judicial means in order to undo the election results. that's what the democrats are trying to do with president trump and that's why the republicans are swatting them down. it's not okay. so i understand you have a razor thin margin. you know, this is not a trivial concern for someone like mitch mcconnell who is holding on to power. they're trying to figure out some way in a republican state to washington in light of these accusations. one of to suggestions is fire jeff sessions. he's not a good a.g. send him back to alabama. >> he could name a special counsel on his way out the door. there's a lot of things -- that would be quite an exit. i'm just saying -- >> all right. me time. a new report that democrats may be stuck in the past as they attempt to rebrand their image. is the party's old guard shedding out fresh voices? we debate. ♪ what i want, you'
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you can see he's been meeting with -- we think it was speaker ryan and house leader mcconnell. they're not confirming what he was talking to. you can get that taxes were the first topic on everyone's minds as they met behind closed doors and tried to talk about how both houses could come together on a tax bill. they're probably talking about this issue of roy moore as well. i don't know that. i'm just guessing what do you think, buck? what you think they're talking about there? >> i'm assuming that taxes is top of the agenda. i'm not sure. from what i've seen and heard so far, looks like trump is taking a pretty hands-off approach to the roy moore situation, which i have to say i think falls in line with what, as i said, i'm hearing and a lot of others are as well about what gop voters in alabama would like. they want more information, want the story to be followed. they want the election they've been having and want this to go through. trump is trying to allow that. >> where do you think the wiggle
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room is on the tax plan? you look at the two differences. you think about it. what do you think ends up falling by the wayside? >> i don't think the individual mandate -- there's the president waving and walking by the cameras, going to a hidden corridor to hogwart and -- i don't believe we're going to get any sound. there he is again from a different angle. >> we have pence in the mix. >> the high five, thumb up. no comments. >> there's so much to discuss. i'm more optimistic. i have no faith in congress whatsoever but i'm more optimistic than my colleagues on the couch, including buck and marie, that the senate will figure out a way to do this and pass it. i think mitch mcconnell is probably exhorting the president to get involved in the roy moore scandal more openly and say
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something to try to get more out of him. >> can i speak to your relative lack of cynicism. i hope what you're saying is true. if this congress cannot get tax cuts, they can't get anything. >> they should leave. and they probably will. >> this will turn into a delay pattern. this will be like the airline when they keep coming out saying it's going to be another hour, another hour. >> you know eventually they'll cancel the flight. >> yeah, it's not leaving. that's the congress in summary. >> and however, marie, i don't see democrats as having some bold alternative plan to republicans other than obstruct and resist. you have people in the party leading the party who are essentially 700 years old apiece. >> i think that on the senate side, i actually think there's some democrats that would have entertained this before the republicans got put in there. people like joe manchin, joe donnelly, folks saying that maybe we can take a look at
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this. but once you put obamacare in with tax cuts. but the true question here is, what is donald trump saying to them? none of us believe that he's in the intricacies of politics -- >> he's saying get it done. >> the pep rally. a pep rally doesn't bridge the gap between the senate and the house version. he's saying you do it. he said yeah, our jobs are on the line. >> he's a deal maker. so -- >> he doesn't -- >> he doesn't know the details. >> he believes in the corporate tax cut. there's no way he's not a big proponent of that. >> he absolutely knows the deal. he needs to use the policy to his benefit. he knows the tax code in and out -- >> i want to see his taxes. >> what is he saying to the senate about the one-year delay -- >> it's bad. it's a bad move. >> one at a time. >> you cannot run in a mid-term
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>> thank you so much to buck sexton, we hope you come back, that was a lot of fun. he held his own. we will be right back here on the couch tomorrow and now, here's harris. >> harris: we begin with breaking news, president trump leaving capitol hill after making an in person appeal to fellow republicans on the hill ahead of a crucial tax vote. possible hurdles moving in the senate, you watch this video for moments ago. this is "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. we are awaiting the houseboat on taxes, following that personal appeal from the president moments ago. he told reporters that things are going well and that he expects the senate to come around on taxes as well. this is how republicans are confident they have the vote to pass their bill. there is little margin for error as no democrats are expected to come on board. mike emanuel is live for us up the hill, mike? >> good afternoon, house republic
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