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united states. why don't you act like it? good night. >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams and jesse water. and jesse perino. "the five" ." stunning admission. even hillary clinton confesses that the media kept her husband's presidency afloat when he and his unbuttoned trousers should have been sent packing. at a clinton foundation event marking the 25th anniversary of the 92 election, i wasn't invited. she said bill wouldn't have survived if fox news was around. >> our body politics immune
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system has been impaired. because there's been a concerted effort starting with the creation of the fox network. it wasn't there when bill first ran. it was one of the reasons he probably survived. >> greg: he looks thrilled. saying please shoot me. she makes this claim while many in the media now admit that bill should have resigned after the lewinsky scandal. isn't hillary agreeing with these new critics? by saying fnc wouldn't have let bill fly but the media monopoly did. so without knowing it, hillary exposed the media's lack of guts while saluting fox's. she also claims bill wouldn't have tweeted about his achievements as president. someone should tell her twitter wasn't around back then. hillary, twitter wasn't around back then. what a blind spot she has to
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think that not tweeting makes bill in a manner of sound character. he violated an intern in the oval office. sorry, i will take the tweeting instead which raises a question. what if fnc and twitter have been around back then when bill was president? how would that have change things? twitter would've kept bill busy and fox would have kept him in line and perhaps hillary would have ended up president. how hilarious. if fox news was around, hillary would have been president. instead, bill got away with all sorts of as the media covered for him. now you can't throw a bum out who's been out for 17 years. hillary, i'm glad you enjoyed the party at the clinton foundation. i hope russia picked up the tab and someone besides bill brought the cigars. the irony is she's coming out
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against two things that, if they existed, probably would have paved the way for her presidency. if clinton had been impeached and resigned, that would have given them a moral authority to go after somebody like trump. >> i absolutely think bill clinton would have used twitter if it had been around at the time. >> greg: at least to pick up girls. >> bill: interesting to spend the weekend listening to a lot of commentary and reading people have sort of revisionist history of what it was like a 1997. i remember specifically for me. i was 23 years old, working for a member of congress. i was watching this, thinking surely someone is going to defend this woman. surely they are not going to throw her under the bus. it never happened. they are doing it now, and then you hear them say well, things are different now what is actually different? the only thing that's different is there's a different president
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in the oval office. exposing every technology sector, economic sector is affected by this problem of sexual harassment. i thought about that as a young girl, as an intern. it was his responsibility, and they all covered for him. now, looking back, it can't be that people were so blind at that time. they were willfully blind. >> greg: can we show another clip of hillary talking about trump, which is hilarious. >> apparently my former opponent is obsessed with my speaking out. apparently there was another, somebody told me, tweet today. honestly, between tweeting and golfing, how does he get anything done? i don't understand it. so maybe that's the whole point. >> greg: she is saying he is tweeting and golfing, how does he get anything done?
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that is indirectly at bill clinton. if he had been doing other things, he wouldn't have been doing other people. >> kimberly: so if he golfed and tweeted more. >> greg: he probably wouldn't have -- >> kimberly: wouldn't have had idle fingers, so to speak. i wasn't thinking that but that's good that there's five of us around the table. i was watching bill and his body language. right away picked up the microphone. >> greg: body morse code. >> kimberly: help me. he didn't love it. he was picking it up and proceeded to try to redirect and turn it around because he doesn't like when hillary goes on these tangents. also he thinks don't poke the president trump cage and get him going and he will start tweeting about us again. he has no desire to have president trump focus on him right now. >> greg: she insulted the media by saying she wished for the good old days when there was
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a monopoly of patsies. >> kimberly: >> jesse: fox broke mainstream media monopoly and they haven't been able to get over it. hillary reminds me of a corrupt dictator who rigs an election unwinds that she only gets 90% of the vote. it's not enough to get sent debate questions by cnn. it's not enough one politico runs stories by use you can approve them. all the newspapers, all the magazines come all the networks. facebook, twitter, google. that's not enough? if that's not enough to carry hillary over the finish line, maybe she didn't deserve it. you are right, stunning admission. she is saying if fox news was around, we would have been fair and balanced with the sex scandals. she's also admitting that these sex scandals were a vast right-wing conspiracy, that the women accusing her husband had no merit. i think that's pretty sad.
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>> dana: a concerted effort to go after the women. maybe we don't do that anymore. >> greg: reconsidering their role? >> juan: i strongly disagree with you. >> greg: i am not surprised. >> juan: good, that's why we have a show. but what she said was so obvious to me. guess what? the news media, including fox news, really caters to a specific force of the political people, people interested in politics in the country. you have people who will confirm existing biases in the media. whatever you tune into, your favorite talk radio host. that's not the way it worked back then. what she said was in this media environment, people don't really care about the facts. they want to hear something confirmed.
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>> greg: they didn't care about what he did. >> juan: that is not true. bill clinton was impeached. >> greg: the media said -- >> juan: fox news was around during the impeachment and they were highly critical of the impeachment. >> jesse: hillary is saying he wouldn't have won the nomination. >> juan: i don't think that's what she's talking about. i think she is talking about things like monica lewinsky. monica lewinsky said it was a consensual relationship. i think there was a great imbalance in terms of the power structure but it's not like the young woman was saying something wrong happened in her opinion to her personally. >> kimberly: hillary clinton monica and the the other women. they felt personally wronged. >> juan: there was criticism for hillary for not leaving him.
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i don't know. i know this thing over the weekend started with donald trump. donald trump saying she was the worst loser of all time, and then when she responds, you go after her. i don't get it. >> jesse: it's like my little sister. she used to punch me and punch me and punch me all day. when i finally had her back, she would go oh, mom. jesse hit me. >> kimberly: you hit her back? horrible human. >> jesse: lightly. >> greg: this is coming out in the papers tomorrow. "the washington post" came out on charlie rose today. for walking around naked and fraying of people. >> juan: if you want to take the democrats point of view, go to kirsten gillibrand, the senator from new york who took hillary seat. and now she is saying bill should have quit. they should have thrown him out.
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there is a consequence for kirsten gillibrand. bill clinton bill clinton is immensely popular. not only generally but inside the democratic party. very popular. i think his power and the power of hilly hillary clinton is wa. i don't know what this means for kirsten gillibrand's future here in new york. >> greg: i disagree. when you say her future is up and the clinton dynasty is a walking corpse. >> kimberly: that's on purpose. i think the intention is to say enough is enough of these folks and we've got to move forward with the party and unless we address the skeletons, the clinton skeletons in the closet, they are not going to be able to do that. they want to have longevity, get some elevation on the issue to say how do we persist forward despite these scandals and was going on? it is not going to be with the clintons, especially when you see the coverage that is getting that it should have before. >> juan: do you think it
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matters, kimberly? president trump has his own issues and it doesn't matter. >> kimberly: people who made the allegations and they had investigations and where did that go? except for the statement. >> juan: i think there are lots of people wondering when they will get some justice in terms of charges against donald trump. to his backers, they don't want to hear it. >> kimberly: it's going through the appropriate channels of due process to see what will be adjudicated. it >> juan: i worry that we are in such partisan times of people don't want to hear about somebody they support. >> greg: i think we were in partisan times before fox was around and when fox came, it was like wait. i think that's what she was saying. it was so much easier having patsies. >> jesse: she was saying fox's partisan and everybody else in the mainstream media just wants facts, that's not true. >> dana: on the point of the
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allegations against charlie rose that have come up from "the washington post." we are at a point where there might be no one. there might be no bottom to this. we are all racing to the bottom of it, and we might get there. >> greg: some faster than others. >> dana: you can pick up the paper and every day at someone else. i think at some point the conversation has to turn to, what are we going to do in terms of some sort of reconciliation or something that says okay, guys. we have exposed you. like, me too. everybody raised their hand. can we get to a point where we can say moving forward, here on out we all agree sexual harassment is wrong and see if we can move past it. >> greg: we are also learning sexual harassment seminars, they are not working. training isn't working. they're looking at the research. >> dana: so we don't have to go next year? kidding. i will be there. >> juan: don't you think they are intended to protect the company?
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>> greg: absolutely. >> dana: yes. >> jesse: does congress have sexual harassment training? >> dana: they are just starting it. >> kimberly: are you getting something that resonates, teachable moments, lessons people embrace. engage in conduct change going forward that's positive and creates less of that environment. >> juan: so i am not going to the christmas party. >> greg: [laughs] i have the father of one ucla basketball player sets off president trump by downplaying his role to bring the trio home. e care of my portfolio, but.. well, what are you doing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training. 6:30? sam's baseball practice. 8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy.
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♪ >> jesse: ucla basketball players returned home from china after being accused of shoplifting, they faint president trump for helping secure their release. the father of one of them, however, isn't as grateful. when asked about the president's involvement by espn, lavar ball said who? what was he over therefor? everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out. if he went to visit them in
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jail, then i would say thank you. that didn't go over well with the president, he wrote: "now that the three basketball players are out of china and saved from years in jail, lavar ball, the father of liangelo, is unaccepting of what i did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail!" of course some critics went wild over that. the white house said settle down. the president was speaking rhetorically. >> it was a rhetorical response to criticism by the father. i think the president was happy to see the release of these individuals and have them back in the united states. >> jesse: was the president saying these players should have rotted in prison in china? >> greg: maximum explosion for a minimum effort. he is so old school. like, i should've let you spend the weekend in jail. you get arrested on a friday night and a parent could go, you
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know what, you're going to learn a lesson. he is not going to do it. he is president jackie gleason. for him, it's fun. >> juan: i have never heard that. >> greg: i am so tired of my friends getting upset about these things because he is just having fun. he thinks about it for 5 minutes and the media thinks about it for five days. of course he doesn't mean it. a lot of people reading race into this. responding to two black athletes. it is called the fallacy of selective exposure. every white politician he has attacked. he went after flake too. he went after every white european leader on the planet. fox news. he went after a few people who were white and female and male and white. the idea that he goes after the father of this basketball player
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or lynch because they are black, it's a selected exposure fallacy. you have to let go of it. it's dishonest. >> jesse: everyone hates the father of ball. he's the biggest role. no one takes them seriously. he's kind of a joke. he has gone after michael jordan. he is a troll. he trolled the president of the united states, and trump hit back. >> juan: to me, this is spears. they are both trolls. they found each other. love ever after. lavar ball understand understod get under trump's very thin skin. they are both -- ball things he's advancing his sneaker sales. i disagree with greg. i think there is no racial angle because he doesn't go after white supremacists. he picked two he responds to. i think it's very direct.
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>> jesse: kimberly, what do you think? >> kimberly: this doesn't surprise me. trump doesn't let a slight go. he sees something like this as an act of aggression. should be met with an act of aggression. he sort of like that. he is old school. you hit me. i hate you back. he told everybody i'm a counter puncture. why is it a mystery that he needs to go -- he feels the guy was disrespectful. greg is right. this is your neighbor who was like, i wouldn't tolerate that. it's about respect. so he's not going to take it from this guy but he's not a very popular guy. >> jesse: is very unpopular. >> jesse: shaquille o'neal doesn't like him.
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>> greg: he has soreness in his shoulder. he's always rubbing his elbow. >> dana: i think it's understood. may not be presidential. i won't add to anything here but i'm going to back up. the president of the united states, however it is, they really don't want to have to ask the president of china to let go three people regardless of color for doing something that was clearly against the law. against the law in china, against the law here. do you think president trump wanted to say, sorry about that. that's his first ask? could you crack down on north korea and let my three guys go. a little bit of humility, which is what the young man expressed last week. they all said thank you. we are embarrassed. we were ashamed. the president of the united states, he asked for them to be released.
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there wasn't a big exposure for people who are being held by china for no reason at all and are having their human rights violated. so these guys, in terms of exposure, when it comes to the tweets, my rulers take the high road and let somebody else fight your battles for you. >> greg: i can't reach the high road. >> jesse: i want to talk about this guy lynch, he was in mexico city. playing for the raiders. instead of standing for the national anthem, he sat but then he stood for the mexican national amber. people are very upset about it. juan, what do you think? >> juan: what he did is clear. he's protesting what he says is racial injustice. he staged a protest against the united states in terms of the anthem, and i understand people who say it's about the anthem or the flag. he's about calling attention,
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using his platform as an nfl player to get people to pay attention to people who get injured or die and nothing gets done, and the words of others. >> jesse: i don't like at all. i hate it. >> greg: i'm going to steal a joke and say that's when they should have started wall. -- started the wall. >> kimberly: a lot of people would agree with that. that could get approved. he is acting in true fashion, raiders. the bad boy image. >> jesse: he's a renegade. that's why gets find so much. >> kimberly: this is what he does. i'm not sure if it so much that he's passionate about it in his heart. >> greg: he is actually just a jerk. can we say he's a jerk? >> jesse: until he signs with your team, the niners, then you're going to love them. >> greg: the niners are dead
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which may cause kidney problems. ask your doctor about victoza®. ♪ >> kimberly: u.s. border agents put their lives in the line each day to protect our country. tragically one of them lost his life this weekend and another is hospitalized in serious condition. after coming under attack in southwest texas. agent rogelio martinez was killed yesterday when responding to activity in the big bend area. his partner was heard but survived. details are still unclear. authorities are hunting for the suspect. president trump is vowing to seek out those responsible and bring them to justice. he also reiterated the need for the wall. >> as you heard, we lost a
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border patrol officer just yesterday. and another one was brutally beaten and badly, badly hurt. it looks like he'll make it but very, very badly hurt. when we talk about the wall. we are going to have the wall. it's part of what we are doing. we need it. that's a rough territory. that's where the drugs are coming in. a lot of things are happening along the border, the southern border. >> kimberly: obviously very disturbing story. facts and circumstances still developing as we go to the news right now, dana. you see the president obviously very upset about this, having very genuine response. he's really had come even when he was campaigning, reached out and have the support of the border patrol and the agents there who really had a very difficult path in terms of what they've been able to do, whether they have been understaffed. coming under these attacks, they don't know. they want to go home that night
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to their family. >> dana: there is an award the texas governor greg abbott puts out. $20,000 for in the information that leads to the arrest of basically the people that ambushed our border patrol agents. then the question is, would a wall help in this particular area? i think the wall, when they get down to business and start writing this legislation having the discussion, needs to be clear there's a lot of things you can do on the security front, as the president has mentioned, a virtual wall in some places. it's going to be more practical in some places and it could help save lives of our border patrol agents before any structure can be built. the terrain of the area. i would advise them, as they start to figure out how they're going to ask congress for the money to appropriated, they will be possible to have an actual structure in certain places but to take the win if they get more
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border security and a virtual wall. >> kimberly: it's very complex, a lot of resources needed. what are your thoughts? the more resources they have, better in terms of men and women on the ground. to be able to patrol the area, wall, physical obstruction makes it easier for their job in terms of making it more difficult for some of the menacing individuals that try to come over and violate the law. >> jesse: it when someone is killed with a gun, the left wants gun control. when a border control agent is killed, you would think they would want border control. assaults by illegal aliens on border patrol agents has hit an all-time high. up to 50% from last year. 720 assaults on border patrol agents this year alone, not counting september. although border crossings are way down under president trump, i think they have only been a quarter million crossings last
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year. last year was half a million. it still shows they are pouring across the border is not secure. i have a border wall update. the contracting process has begun. eight prototypes have been built. the concrete is settling. they start the testing phase next week. at some you can see through, greater visibility up on our side. they average between 18 and 30 feet high. right now $20 million have been appropriated. big funding is being tied up potentially in the daca negotiations around christmas. >> kimberly: juan, on a point that jesse meant, the reason why this is so dangerous, the border patrol agents working to call man teams and a backup can be hours away. they are confronted by large numbers because they know the math. they you have two guys, and youn overcome them. >> juan: okay. we have increased the number border agents astronomically. we put in more of the type of equipment dana was talking
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about, everything from drones to electronic surveillance. and all the rest. i think in this instance, and it's tragic. he wasn't shocked. he was beaten to death. this is a really horrible personal type of attack where you have anger and violence involved. but i don't see why you would politicize it as the basis for a wall when, as jesse says, crossings are down. and you have only 38 agents involved in this kind of violence since '03. one this year. is this a new justification for building a wall that nobody in the u.s. wants and nobody in mexico is willing to pay for? apparently. >> jesse: 720 assaults on border patrol. >> juan: i don't know what's going on. i don't have the background. >> jesse: it's from the u.s. border control. >> juan: in terms of people being killed, agents putting their lives on the line, as kimberly was discussing, we had one this year. it's just not a reason to say
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yes, we better rush to build. change your opinion on on the welcome america. >> greg: we know it's not an easy job. they are the nations bouncers, border agents. they are the first person facing the external challenges. this is the irony of the whole story. politicians and sanctuary cities don't have to think about border agents. the agents make the lives of the people in the sanctuary cities easier because they don't get to the sanctuary cities and cause more problems. if you took away these border agents because you felt it's mean, then your sanctuary cities will be more murderous than you could ever imagine. we need to drag this country into a contemporary understanding of the border. the border isn't just about immigration. its national security. terror plus technology is going to make it possible for one person to sneak across with a drone and bioterror married together and create havoc that will make 9/11 look smaller.
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we have to think about it in a bigger, more global way. it's not just about immigration. it's about our future. >> kimberly: we want to protect those serving our country and give them resources. we've hired more. charles manson is dead after more than half a century behind bars. the evil, murderous legacy he leaves behind next. worx pegasus,
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or demons. whatever you want to call it. i will play. there is no game i can't play. >> people are saying you are the devil. >> okay, i will be the devil then. i don't like or dislike anything. i see it as it is. >> juan: i don't know how to think of somebody who would create a cult and order that someone go in and kill. it wasn't just killing. it was violent, powerful stabbings. >> greg: he was the first identity politics terrorists. the point was to kill white people and painted on the black panthers. that's why they wrote stuff and blood on the wall. he was trying to create an apocalyptic race war. the less said about him probably the better. the media devotes too much ink on the irrational fascination with evil. we see hours of forensic files in all these special documentaries. meanwhile, thousands of good people die every single day.
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they lead a quiet, noble lives. the little old lady who slips in the bathtub that you don't hear about. the guy who gets hit by a bus. della reese died today. great woman. this guy gets more ink than being "touched by an angel." >> juan: let me talk to my california girl. >> kimberly: what did you think of him in the idea that there is now one of the people who participated in these murders, she is 69. she had been pardoned. it's going to get up to the governor to decide whether or not to let her out. >> kimberly: i don't think she should get out. i don't think anyone who was associated with this, an accomplice, these horrific murders. the man who trained me at at te los angeles district attorney's office was one of the prosecutors in these murders, the tate-lobby labianca murders.
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prevent these animals from being released. history and time should not forget the horrific crimes they committed. he spent so much time with him and he said he is unbelievably horrific, evil individual. i don't think the right messages to pardon or lead people out. that's not the right deterrent. i am happy this man died in jail. and was never released. it was not easy. they had to fight hard to be able to keep him in, if you can imagine that. otherwise you'd never think in a million years anyone would have a quarrel with keeping somebody like this in. >> juan: jessica mann reading about this, some things jumped out at me. one is, he is born from a prostitute, doesn't know his father, takes his stepfather's name. then you get in a situation where he is hanging around with
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dennis wilson of the beach boys and a record producer. he thinks he has musical talent, doesn't get picked up. that's why he goes to that house where roman polanski lived with sharon tate. by the way, he was a big fan of dale carnegie. that's how he learned the principles he used to create the cult. >> jesse: a mentally ill maniac. he said "i am crime." geraldo, hats off to him. got him on tape in prison saying i am the devil. i think what greg was saying, it's good when you spotlight evil. not all the time but to look evil in the eye and see what it is so you know what good is. it also goes to show the amount of mind control he had over these cult followers. you are taking these psychedelic drugs. the power he had over them was phenomenal. >> kimberly: over so many women.
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>> greg: that has always been an interesting element to cults. women are attracted to, some women who are naive or gullible are attracted to that kind of thing. >> juan: dana, i have a challenge for you. you are a sweet soul. i wonder if you can tell us what you would say nice about someone like this who just died. >> dana: can't do it. >> greg: good food for. >> dana: may be. spotlighting the evil, when i was a kid. he scared the crap out of me. i was terrified of cults and mind control and the evil. knowing about it helped me navigate a little bit more. >> kimberly: agreed. >> juan: love him or hate him, somebody must've been the first person to take a stealthy. guess what, paris hilton thinks it's her. there's lots of photographic evidence that seems to prove otherwise. next. ok, you just found out you're being audited.
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many are taking issue with the claim. here is some photographic evidence. thelma and louise took one in the '90s. colin powell posted this from the 1950s. perhaps the oldest one is from the 1800s taken by a photographer named robert cornelius. and jesse's of philadelphia. >> kimberly: stylish. maybe you are reincarnated. >> jesse: i learned how to take a selfie. i was watching e! kim kardashian said you are supposed to hold it high at a 4. high end at 45. like that. everybody? >> dana: paris hilton. might as well claim it. >> kimberly: she was the one who started it all up again, no offense to your doppelgaenger
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cornelius. she was the one doing all the time and people started this incessant thing with selfies. remember the selfie stick? >> dana: juan has one of those. right? >> juan: you walk down the street in new york and especially now with the holiday season, these people have the sticks. they are wielding them. >> dana: you need respect. >> greg: let's be honest. paris hilton did not invent these stealthy. she invented the sex tape. we used to get one scandal a year. now every day we have an avalanche of impropriety. the difference is it's not paris hilton. it's charlie rose and al franke al franken. thinking of that makes me nauseous. creepy man.
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be tomorrow. you didn't like that joke? papadopoulos and manafort are they names. just kidding. the names are wishbone and drumstick. they are putting them up in a hotel. they are going to be pardoned in the rose garden tomorrow. you can go to the white house twitter feed and vote who should be pardoned. wishbone or drumstick. >> dana: there is an indian man. his name is pronounced -- i can't say it. he has declared himself king. he drove from india. there is an 800 square mile area known -- it's unclaimed land. you can declare yourself king. other people have tried it but nobody's been able to persevere. he is saying he will and he will write an email to the united nations about his kingdom. he has created a facebook page and seeking people to invest in the kingdom.
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>> kimberly: i have a very special "one more thing" ." ronan was in the championship football game with the titans and they crushed it. there is ronan running. great athlete. his dad and grandfather. his cousin. flag football. >> greg: excellent cinematography. >> dana: congrats, ronan. >> juan: the 25-year-old georgia dome was imploded this morning. it took 5,000 positive explosives to blow up the 70 710 seat stadium. was the home of the atlanta falcons. it hosted two super bowls, 1996 olympic basketball tournament,
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three final four tournaments. replaced by the $1.6 billion mercedes-benz stadium right next door. the new ballpark with a retractable roof and a giant steel structure of a falcon. >> greg: you know what, i'm going to elaborate further on what you just talked about. the weather channel had covered this event, this implosion of the georgia dome. they had a camera set up to watch it. have you ever been here before? they've got the camera. everything is good to watch the implosion. it's going to be great. everything is perfect, and then as it's about to happen. three, two, one. the bus pulls up. bus driver has the best view. the weather channel guy is
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swearing. since when did the weather channel cover implosion's? the guy has no idea, just doing his job. why do we like it when buildings implode? they do it so it falls directly down and nobody gets hurt. >> kimberly: when they do that in los angeles, some of the old hotels and they detonate them. pretty cool. >> juan: they had to put up a huge, like a blanket to keep the old stadium from damaging the new stadium. >> jesse: i want to hear you say kaboom one more time. >> juan: kaboom. >> greg: guess what? kaboom. we have about 30 seconds left. i thought to kimberly's son did quite a job. >> dana: what are you eating for dinner tonight? >> greg: i can't have chinese
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food again. all right. never set your dvrs. [laughter] never miss an episode of "the five." bret, to you. >> bret: thank you. we thought this might be coming on his asia trip but today it's official. president trump declares north korea a state sponsor of terrorism. plus new sexual misconduct accusers for al franken and possibly bill clinton, as one of roy moore's accusers speaks out. this is "special report" ." good evening. i'm bret baier. president trump is taking another major step in his pressure campaign against north korea. the president, putting the communist country on the list of nations designated state sponsors of terrorism. the move paves the
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