done. you can learn which doesn't smell. >> guess what i learned today? >> what? >> you're awesome. >> thank you so much. >> the objects people choose to keep in their home define who they are. this is objectified judge judy. >> welcome. >> i'm harvey. this is the story one of the most successful and recognizable stars on tv with ratings that even topped oprah. >> are we understanding each other? >> yes. you're an idiot and a scammer. >> but life wasn't always easy. her career was put on ice thanks to her husband. divorce led to at judge ship ad that opened a golden door. >> on your best day you're not as smart as i am on my worst day. >> she is fierce but are you a

feminist? >> i don't think so. ihe don't think so. >> judge judy the most famous judge on the planet and definitely the richest. >> judy it iswa so good seeing you. >> welcome to my home. >> your home by the way beautiful. let's start off. let's talk about the journey that turned you into the unstoppable force. >> you lie to me i'll wipe up the floor with you. >> tell me who this is? >> my mother and father. had a great love affair. inside this picture i opened it up and i found love letters. this was written in 1940. writing poetry. iti intend you to marry and will tend not to terry with

inconsequential pattern. meanwhile let's agree and talk over the things that matter. >> how long were they married? >> they were married for 48 years. they had a wonderful marriage. she knew he was wild about her. but the marriage was not without arguments. but if you have that thing that you can't quantify you get through those areas. >> your dad. tell me about him. he is a great writer for sure. i want to hear the things that had an impact on you. >> i found my junior high school little book that everybody signs. i found my father's page which i have inside. even then he was funny. because he wrote in my yearbook

i've signed a lot of these albums. you should be something already. i should be calling you a doctor or lawyer or teacher or something. >> that is telling. can i tell you why? because there was a lot of pressure then for women to be a pressure then for women to be a housewife and he would say something like that so he had aspirations beyond that. >> i didn't think about that but that is true because i don't think in terms of sex when it comes to success. i think my father in his head thought that i would be something different. >> but there was a lot of pressure again in society for women to become housewives. >> my father taught me that the some times you have to go against the grain. >> did he put pressure on you to feel like this is what i need to view myself as successful. >> no. i knew that if i felt that if i

worked hard i could have both. i could have a family. and because that was important to me.ju and i could have a career. i just felt it. there were other objects -- these were his glasses so for the first couple of years on the bench i wore his glasses until they were no longer enough for me to see. i had to go to these. i grew up in a family that you were supposed to do the right thing and that has stayed with me. that kind of up bringing has to start with marie -- and ethyl. >> the answer is no. i did not.

i found all of that stuff not only disinteresting but really stupid. just -- i didn't go to basketball games because i hated the smell in the gym in high school. i joined a sorority for a short period of time as the girls were just silly. talking about getting married whent' i'm 19 and going to liven forest hills and i saidth that s not my life. i was anxious to get on with my life. >> you had boyfriends growingin up? >> had a couple. >> what did you look for in a boyfriend. >> nothing good. actually nothing good. i remember having one very, very good looking boyfriend who was as dumb as a bucket of rocks but when i walk around with him everybodyar goes he is beautiful andgo then there was nothing to talk about so that was a learning experience.

but it looked good. getting a meal that looks good on the plate but you bite into it and it was awful. i was not the prettiest girl in the class or the smartest. i was not tall enough. i was not strong enough. i could not play sports. i hated swimming because i wouldn't put my face in the water. what was i going to do? and my father said to me you are you -- you should be a senator and i figured out that in order to be a senator you should go to law school first. that sets you apart as a woman. that is how it started. this is my application for admission to bar exam. >> what year? >> 1965. >> you kept it. >> my first husband kept it and gave it to me. >> you were the only woman in

your law school class. >> in my first year. 126 and i was the only woman. >> how did they treat you? >> fine. >> i never had an issue with gender. >> when you graduated law school tell me about your first job. >> it was with a cosmetic firm. there were two lawyers hired. a man and a woman and they gave in a long pad and told me to call the drugstores to take orders for the new project. >> you were a telemarketer. >> it was an unsatisfying job. >> why would they order you a lawyer and then you have you do that. >> i was cute but i think theyno expected less from me and i realize quickly that the corporate world is not a world that i had an affinity for and i didn't keep that job for very long. >> did you go to another job?

>> i didn't. now that was a time in my life when i did what most young women did in those years if you didn't likefe your job or if you worke. had a baby and i stayed home with children for a few years and then finally in 1972 went back to work. >> i want to back it up. your first husband. what attracted you to him. >> nice guy. good dancer. it was time to get married. there were still those pressures even in those years. >> you said you didn't feel the need to be a housewife. >> i didn't but i wanted to have children. i was never one of those women that just wanted a career. >> did you want ar husband? >> yes. oh, yes. one didn't go without other. you left your house either in a

pine box or in a white dress. so it was time for me to get married. i was almost 21. seemed like the right thing to do. >> you were such a strong person. you wanted to be a lawyer and it was like i didn't like my first job so, i'll have a baby. it didn't sound like? >> it was. >> you don't see a paradox there. >> i dowe but it was time to hae a baby. nobody had children after they were 30. because you were told you would have terrible deformed children if you were over 30. so i became a promise twice -- mom twice. and then i became bored. we moved toyi the country which was uber bored. >> you said you felt like your brain was atrophying. >> that is true. i actually watched soap operas

and looked forward to them. it didn't work for me. but i'm not sorry i had those five or six years of staying home. i tried it and it didn't work for me. >> so what happened in that relationship? >> we grew differently and my first husband is a lovely, lovely man. but he always viewed my job as a hobby and there came a time when i resented that. as most men he didn't want his life interrupted. he didn't want anything that interfered with the way he ran his life and his practice and i said well we both work so we both have to share the responsibility. [ inaudible ] >> your job is a hobby. >> did you ever sense that before you got married? >> no.

there is -- an inference. i was more than happy to make things run smoothly. to the events and making lunches. >> you would never do that today. >> you still do that today because that is the way -- it's innate. >> is it? >> yes. some woman are not nurturers at all and i've met them. she is a bad mother. so full of anger and hate in her heart that it obscures her judgment as far as being a good mother. >> when you decided to divorce ron you had two kids. scary? >> very. it was scary. first of all i was the first divorce in my family. interestingly i had told my father that i was not happy and

i wanted to divorce ron and my father said to me and he loved me more than anything in the world. he said to me two innocent people shouldn't suffer because of what two guilty did and i was hurt by that. but he came around and he saw how unhappy i was and it was the right thing to do. i moved to the city and met jerry. it was a frightening time but a fun time. >> so you are saying that peoplt without kids should not be sitting judging families with kids. >> am i saying that? >> a little bit. >> i would not disagree with you.

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>> isn't that fabulous? >> why did you want to become a judge. you were a lawyer. you have options. why a judge? >> i like to make decisions and i practiced before family court judges many of whom were morons and destroyed more lives than they helped. half came back from lunch drunk and they were ruling on lives of people that could not take care of themselves. i took six tylenol a day and i loved every minute of it. it was exhilarating and exciting. >> it wasn't depressing? >> it was a frustration that i felt which caused me to take the tylenol and then i couldn't figure out how to fix it. >> did you feel like you made a difference? >> some. yes.ye >> do you think you saved some

people? >> some. yes. just tell me what want. old report or new report? and i'll give you whatever you want. >> well, i believe that the -- >> good. order new report. order new report. >> you were very different from most other judges when you sat. there were people who felt that you were kind of creating aut legal system around your values. >> that is absolutely correct. >> once somebody said that they had been selling crack because they went down the wrong path after a family member died. >> he was convicted of selling a controlled substance. he was having a very hard time because his grandmother died and i remember it. i said you know i lost both of my grand parents. i grieved. i cried. i remember not eating for a couple of days but my reaction

to my grandparent's death was not to go out and sell crack. it was not. that is not a normal reaction because -- it could make me feel better if i just shot that cabdriver in the head. i refuse you to make an excuse of abusing children because you were drunk or because you were high. that is my business. and i will not allow that to be an excuse forju irreverent behavior. >> there is ayo difference betwn men and woman as lawyers and judges? >> there are good ones and bad ones. you bring to the bench your life experience. if you were a single woman without children and a judge and we had many of those you could only think about what it would feel like if your husband left

you for a younger woman and then he brought her to pick up the kids saturday for visitation and she looked a lot better than you did and the kids called her mommy. do you understand? or mommy gene -- unless you live that or had kids and could have that you had no idea what -- >> you're almost saying that people without kids should not be sitting, judging families with kids? >> am i saying that? i would not disagree with you. >> you came from a very loving home. there are a lot of people who don't. a lot of people see bad things growing up. when people duplicate, replicate what they know do you have any sympathy for them? >> it's bad. >> do i have sympathy for them?

i have sympathy for them but my greatest v sympathy lies with te innocent people that they hurt. my sympathies lie with the victims of violent crime. not with the perpetrator. this last 22 years has been one grand party. >> you never thought when you watched people's court with whop never that you could do that better. i thought it every day that i could do it better. [cheering] cab never. what about never.

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i never thought the show will last for 10 years and here we are going into season 22. when i was told that this was going to happen they said you have several choices where you would like your star to be. and i said i want to rest next tony sydney tortier. -- >> did you have fantasies. obviously i have a connection to people's court. i'm assuming you watched people's court from time to time wapner. >> i did. >> what you're witnessing is real. the people's court. >> what did you think? i thought he was humor less. actually -- >> if you wear anything other than a wedding ring or study rings to workhi and they are lot or stolen that is just your tough luck.

>> but he was fine. i never thought of him as a particularly charismatic fella. i think he wanted to do the right thing. he was interested in a just result all the time. >> you i never thought you could do that better? >> i thought that every day. >> were you ever interested in it. >> i did as a matter of fact. wapner is retiring. i could probably do that job. and i got the telephone number of the office., and i called and somebody answered the phone and i said hi, my name is judge judy sheindlin and i'm the judge. i'm from new york. did you ever think of doing -- female people's court and whoever was on the phone was a woman. she said to me lady we're packing up. the show is over. and hung up the phone. and hung up the phone. but

reason. >> judge judy sheindlin and if you find her a little bit shrill or testy she would be very pleased. >> one of my favorite things i've seen on "60 minutes" was your profile. that had a huge impact on you going into television. >> it must be seen to be done fast. >> could you please move on. i have about 20 other cases to do today councilor. >> from that "60 minutes" piece a couple of years later of the two girls from the people's court called me in my chambers and said would you ever think of doing this? and it was from that came the show. i went out to california. and when he said sign on the dotted line and i will make a pilot. about to enter the

court. judge judy sheindlin. the people are real. the cases are real. the rulings are final. this is judge judy. >> it was a risk. >> it was a risk. i knew i would have to go back to work if it didn't work out to work if it didn't work out but they paid first year which was a guarantee so that i was making in that first year three times as much as i was making on the bench and so i figured i had a three-year grace period to make it work and then go back and find a job and find something else. fortunately it worked out just fine. >> the producers who work for me are hard working wonderful people.od many have been with the program for over 20 years. now going into its 22nd season. other than holiday parties i have a conversatioh them. ever. and i don't want to speak to a producer.

>> because you want it to be fresh on the bench. t >> because it's a got to be fresh on the bench and my sense of justice because if the american public was interested in what a producer thought about this case they would give the producer a black dress and they could go out and judge. so i want it just as the judge gets and then go out and figure itin out myself. >> you talked about your style. you have -- you were a very opinionated judge. >> listen to me. i'm older, smarter. if you live to be 1120 you're not going as smart as i am in one finger you understand? you need a good therapist. is he your boyfriend? >> no. >> thank god for small favors. >> this is the difference between saying to someone your conduct is disgusting and saying to them you're disgusting but i try not to be great few us toly

nasty just for the sake of being great ret -- degree few us nasty. they don't keep me in this job because i'm young and beautiful. they keep me in this job because i'm smart. >> but the personality -- of judy is the same on the bench. >> yes. yes. otherwise it would be work and i don't like to work. this is not work. this last 22 years it's been one grand party. >> so you divorced him and then you remarried him. >> and i really found out this is not to denigrate your species actually most men are alike.

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we spoke a little while ago. i said, "we had a blended family." they started, i think, when jerry and i got together >> we spoke a little while ago. we had a blended family. when jerry got together adam was five or six. these are the five kids all grown up. that is gregory. married and has two little kids and that is jonathan and that is the baby nicole. that is jamie sort of in the middle and that is adam. we have 13 grandchildren. from 3-39. -- from 3-29. >> when you left on your own after the divorce how quickly did you get involved with jerry.

>> not more than a month. i like to be mated. it's natural for me to be mate. >> i never really have been on your own. >> no. no. i like to have somebody to fuss over. i do. >> you've got this strong independent woman on one side and a woman who says i want to be mated and fuss over someone. i can relate to people. >> how quickly did you marry him? oh, my god i would have married two days after i met him. i was so crazy about him but we didn't marry for a year. we fight and have terrific fights but there is something that you cannot quite put your finger on. i still like to see him walk in

the room. jerry is going to be 84 at his next birthday. he knows he needs to keep a reasonable physique or he is out the door. [laughter] so there was a rough patch when you and jerry divorced. >> jerry was always involved in jerry and jerry and jerry and his kids and i always knew that theti one person who i could totally rely on and i was his number one priority was my father and when my father passed away i wanted him to pick up the slack.e i made sure we had the appropriate parties and took care of things and i said okay. now it's your turn. i felt that he really wasn't there then. and i felt badly.

i was so sad when my father died that an easier emotion to deal with was being angry at my husband for not picking up the slack than feeling with the sadness of the loss. i had to come to terms with the fact that men of that generation are different. they expect even if they have no right they expect to be taken care of or catered to. >> so you divorced him. and then remarried him. >> i did. i missed him. i did a little dating during that time. i'm absolutely positive he did too and i really found out and this is not the denigrate your alike. mine had hair. men are not actual nurturers.

>> you have an incredible soft spot for your children. i do. i adore them. and i try to make their lives as comfortable as i can because i adore them. most people what they leave behind is their footprint is their children and their grandchildren. and we have nice responsible good citizen children who all do their thing responsibly. we're very lucky and they are very loving to both of us. both jerry and myself are very loving to both of us. that is your footprint. >> are you a feminist? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. i don't know what that means.

>> this boy that my mother broughtve back from europe on their first trip to europe and she fell in love with him. it must have been 45 or 50 years ago and she carried him back on

her lap. there is somehow a connection to what is important to a lady. what is importantng to a woman. and my mother wanted to bring back something that she knew wouldal be a treasure for her hr whole life. whole life. >> your mom didn't outside the p home. >> no. shee ran the home and she ran e dental practice. she ran the financial part of the dental practice. >> but what you knew was a woman who was her life resolved around the family. yo had other goals and dreams to become a professional and do this on your own. >> you may in your soul you know what what i want to do is have a family and nurture the family and be part of the pta and take the kids on the field trips. that is what i loved to do and that is great but you always should have a way that you like of supporting yourself.

because if you don't have a way of supporting yourself as something that gives you pleasure you can be bullied and victimized and the women that i know who are the most unhappy areg those women who say the measure of my success is marrying a rich guy who can take care of me. and then well time goes by and they get older. you could be married 50 years and your husband decide he is now in love with a yoga instructor and you find yourself out on your easter. you have to haved something of your own. >> you talk about beauty fading a lot in your life and that the importantut thing is what have t up here. >> beauty fade. dumb is forever. >> but you care about beauty. >> my father used to say if you have the choice between looking good and feeling good choose

looking good because if you have a healthy ego and you don't look good you won't feel good.rs jerry sheindlin and i have been together 40th years. 41 or 42 years together married for 40. and he has never seen me without my hair combed or lipstick. i like to look reasonable all the time. >> were you part of the women's movement? >> i was not. i never felt threatened because of my gender and i didn't feel as if i was a woman lawyer or a woman judge. i was judge. and i was a lawyer. i wasmb never a member of the women's bar association. i was never a member of the woman's judge's association. i was a judge. a member of the bar.

i never felt as if i got where i got because of a group. >> do you think you might have gotten along with male colleagues better because you found yourself in distinction,able from them. >> absolutely and i told a better dirty joke. >> -- are you a feminist? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. i don't know what that means. i actually don't know what that means. do i want equal pay with men? absolutely -- >> judge judy sheindlin has been extended for three years. keeping her going through 2020. her current salary is $47 million a year. >> i don't feel as if anything has happened to me in my life was sidetracked because i was a woman.

>> there are people who say wow they have a lot of money. i'm going to charge themeo more than i would charge someone else. do people dare try to get over on you? >> you know i would not say that a good idea. because i come from brooklyn.

first of all my friend jerry my friend jerry, we have history. we have people's court history.r >> yes. >> this is spectacular by the way. your own movie theater in one of your many homes. >> this is a"h nice theater. one of the things you asked me was how do you know when you've made it? these shoes are robert -- shoes and they were $300. could have never afforded them as a civil servant. the black ones were never on sale. it was always the blue ones. my first year on doing the show we were traveling on robertson and there was a store and i went in and of course the navy ones were on sale and the brown ones were on sale and the black ones with the new fall line were not on sale and i said i'll take them in black.

>> and that was the moment that i knew that i had transitioned from okay that part ofke your le is over. you can now have black shoes but i keep them just to remind myself. >> you guys were more than prepared to retire on a judge's income. retirement and social f securit. what would that had been? >> it would had been fine. about $100,000 a year. and we would have had a great apartment a couple of blocks off the beach in fort lauderdale and would have been abe to take a vacation once a year. >> you went to living on a judge's salary to think. how do you adjust? becauseco this just didn't happn gradually. this happened quickly. >> we were cooked.

>> what does that mean? >> we matured and we grow and all of this stuff fell into a certain place. so you were not overwhelmed. >> when you come in to it at 52 and 61 is you're in the going to get crazy. it's one of the reasons so manyo young kids in hollywood go crazy because theyne start getting moy when they are 18. >> is money no longer a factor. >> money is no longer a factor. it's nice to not have that as a stressor so if you can remove that it gives everybody a certain amount of freedom to spread their wings and do whatever makes them happy. >> so you're a successful television producer. >> yes. next adventure. >> you've got hot bench. >> yes.l what color bandana? >> yellow. >> yellow. all right. you seem confident. are you? >> no. [laughter]

>> i admire your honesty. >> is that your bucket list? i don't play golf. i don't play tennis. i don't t know how to play bride so there is not anything that i love to do. i like to work and i like the adventure of working and i'm sort of getting the hang of the business of it. and i like the creative part of it and as long as you're doing it and not banking on it to put bread on the table it's sort of a lark. >> there are people who are billionaires who want to be bigger. theyer want more billions. do you laugh at that or do you understand that? >> there iswh a certain saturatn point where you're not worried about money. >> there are people who say wow they have a lot of money. i'm going to charge them more. i'm going to get over on them. do people dare try to get over you on?

>> you know i would not say that is a good idea. because i come from brooklyn. and i was hooked when i came into this and nobody likes to think that somebody else is playing them for a fool. don't treatin me like an idiot don't treatin me like an idiot because by cheat me you're saying i'm a fool. and i don't suffer that well. >> what is the one luxury that still excites you? >> the one thing is not really wanting anything material. and lusting after anything. >> this house is spectacular. >> it's just an investment. great investment is good real estate. location, location. location and you can get to enjoy it and if you can't enjoy

it or the kids can't enjoy it. >> you've private jet. five houses. a condo and a boat. >> that all sounds hysterical. >> it's a dream life. a wonderful fantasy for me. for jerry and for our family. >> thank you so much. >> it was fun. >> thank you so much. >> pleasure to see you again. >> i worked out in grossing the hotel. just a second. we hear you. we hear you. >> i'm trying to be on television. >> i know. we hear you. is there something -- sort of off? you're in the shot.

>> hello. >> hello. it's not about w me. it's all about me. you can read that in by the way. . it is so nice to meet you, mr. prime minister. pleasure to see you, thank you. harvey: benjamin netanyahu has steered israel's destiny for two decades, but that wasn't his plan at all, until his brother was killed by terrorists. was as if my world... ...uh, had collapsed. harvey: bibi, has he's known, became an unstoppable political force. he's prime minister, a job he would not recommend to his children. your kids, do you encourage them to go into politics? no. harvey: the job has been treacherous, security shadowing his every move. there's a photo of me with one of my boys,