♪ >> greg: i am greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters, and dana perino. "the five" ." yesterday nancy pelosi, a true champion of women, defended john con over a claim of sexual harassment. she was awful. >> john con's is an icon in our country. he's done a great deal to protect women. the violence against women act, the right wing is quoting me on his work on that. >> greg: the icon clause in

which public service excuses the behavior. champion publicly, harassed privately. apparently conyers would show up to a meeting in his underwear. strange but maybe it was casual friday. while nancy wants due process for conyers, she's not behind it for private citizens. she supported title ix which allowed schools, not the law to handle rape cases. it's not like defending bad behavior is new for nancy. >> why the silence when there have been these allegations, serious ones, about president clinton? >> i think the women of america are speaking out about what they think about this whole situation. the women of america are just like other americans and that they value fairness. they value privacy, and do not

want to see a person with uncontrolled power and time and unlimited money investigating the president of the united states. >> greg: at least she is consistent in her hypocrisy. for whom she defends is always based on politics. if the harasser is on your team, you soften your stance. happens on the left, and now it is on the right. the left made it an art form. the real scandal, let's call it congregate. your money is being used for settle cases involving misconduct. how is this okay? 234 incidents in congress covered up by $17 million in taxpayer money could be one of the biggest stories in decades. it flew right under our radar, but not anymore. no wonder nancy looks so nervous

or excited. i mean, i can never tell. where to start. so much here. is this a big deal, congregate? >> dana: i think everyone should hashtag that give you full credit. >> greg: i might've stolen it from a celebrity friend of mine. >> dana: when i saw the interview on "meet the press" i thought it was communications malpractice. when your boss is going on a sunday show, you get together and prep and you think about the possible questions that we are going to get. this is obviously going to be one of them. i have to ask, was this planned? when she is practicing the answer, does it not occur to anybody that this sounds really bad? >> greg: can really, how do you think she did? she has done it before. at least she is consistent. >> kimberly: it's a double standard, hypocrisy. water should go out and say

that? if they can make excuses and say the champion of women's rights. it doesn't give you a pass for inappropriate behavior or sexual assault or misconduct or sexual harassment. you see people making excuses saying, well, he's older. he didn't know what he was really doing or it's not that >> jesse: i think the democrats have lost their moral authority on sexual harassment, not that they had any to begin . i think pelosi played herself because she put power over principle. she is either too afraid of the congressional black caucus or she knows there are a ton of shoes that are about to drop on other members of the democratic party. she doesn't want zero-tolerance because she is trying to take back the house.

the icon excuse. i think she is using "icon" a little too loosely. he is a congressman. he is not muhammad ali. there have been other icons taken down by sexual harassment that are more iconic than john con said that excuse does not work for them. >> greg: we won't mention their names. >> jesse: she is using the harvey weinstein and bill clinton excuse. undermining the credibility of the women into say because this guy has fought for progressive causes and they are going to take on the nra that you have to side with them. just because you vote with nancy doesn't give you a license to get handsy. who is denying john con due process? it's not like he is the victim here. >> dana: he already had a settlement. he handled it. that's how he decided to do the due process.

>> greg: i want to get juan in here. congregate, it will be bigger than watergate. it's a big deal. should they make all of this transparent and let everybody know what these cases are? is it going to be a nightmare? >> juan: i think it would be a nightmare. i think there is some need for confidentiality. publicly established process so everyone knows there somewhere you can come to the table and say there's a problem with your employee or colleague and make it, get some sense of resolution to the problem i listening to you and thinking wow. this is how you are handling roy moore? you're going to accuse the democrats of hypocrisy. when i heard nancy pelosi yesterday, she didn't look great but here's what she said. no matter about the legacy. there is no license for bad behavior in terms of sexual harassment and zero-tolerance. that is from nancy pelosi. i don't hear that from you guys.

you're trying to make the case that nancy pelosi is making an excuse for him. i will weaken my own argument for the worse she said was i don't know who these women are when in fact part of the deal was that the women would not go public with their allegations. >> greg: you did weaken your argument there. >> juan: i want everything on the table. she said zero-tolerance. >> jesse: what does zero-tolerance mean? >> juan: he is an icon for john conyers, jr.'s of what he did as a member of congress on title ix, other issues but establishing the congressional black caucus. >> jesse: i'm not putting john con down. if you ask anybody who he is. no one knows who he is. that's not iconic. >> juan: maybe it's your age but john con just pretty well-known in washington and michigan. >> jesse: just because people

know him in washington doesn't mean the rest of the country does. >> juan: more people wouldn't know who nancy pelosi was. >> greg: i consider myself an icon. can we roll this? al franken spoke against this wonderful black background. it was like he was floating in space. let's take a look. >> if you had asked me two weeks ago, would to any woman come forward with an allegation like this, i would have said no. i cannot speculate. this has been a shock and it's been extremely humbling. i am embarrassed. i feel ashamed. what i'm going to do is, i'm going to start my job. i'm going to go back to work.

>> greg: you know, as much as i want to make fun of him and stuff, i have to say i saw somebody that is overwhelmed by circumstance. what he said, if you had asked me two weeks that this would happen, i never would have seen this coming which means he saw this blanket of offensive behavior, grabbing people, as part of a shtick. i kind of sense contrition. >> jesse: congre-gate. >> dana: i talked to a couple staffers, young women and they said they found it to be totally insincere. i think for him, he probably wasn't mustering up as much sincerity as he could because he never thought this was a problem. two weeks ago we never would've thought he would be in the same category as harvey weinstein or roy moore or whoever else might be. different for me, especially watching him, he says i'm sorry.

i'm embarrassed and i'm ashamed, and i'm going back to work. the difference in the private sector is that if you say i'm sorry, i'm ashamed. they are like, you are still fired. and you go. >> jesse: that's a difference. the democrats have set something up where if you are conyers and you and you say i deny it, they believe you. or if you are this guy in minnesota, you say i apologize. then you are forgiven. the democrats can have it either way, both ways, and they are still dissolved. >> juan: this is news to me. i believe conyers is subject to an ethics investigation. >> jesse: i bet he is shaking in his shoes. >> juan: he has denied the allegations. you guys are trying to set democrats up as strongmen. whenever it's a democrat -- go >> jesse: i am holding you to the same standards you -- you said zero-tolerance. you said you believe every single woman that comes forward. they have settled multiple harassment lawsuits. there is photographic evidence,

and now all of a sudden, ethics investigation. >> juan: jesse, stop. hold on. if you look at harvey weinstein, kevin spacey, bill cosby. i don't see democrats defending these people. i see democrats saying there's a problem here. yet when you come to roy moore, no problem, roy moore. >> greg: let me draw a distinction. i see it differently than juan. roy moore is running against mitch mcconnell and franken and conyers are backed by their party. it's the republicans who are being noble about this, right? the democrats -- mcconnell. >> juan: the governor. >> greg: there is no lockstep in the republican party.

for three but not with younger women and the democratic party. they don't like it. >> kimberly: i agree with you. to me it's perplexing. the first problem with bill clinton, you saw democrats still not even willing to call him out on his behavior despite those women being brave, coming forward, telling their stories repeatedly. making fresh complaints at the time, physical evidence, one either broderick. now you see wait a second. conyers is iconic. therefore get your fruit of the loom on. sit in your underwear. it's all good. geraldo tried this with me the other night. [laughter] on the air, on hannity. he said conyers, older guy, not that sexy. i said that's not the standard. is not whether he is david beckham or not.

he said, he was a little guy -- an old guy. >> greg: mental faculties, saying he wasn't aware his robe was open. it >> jesse: they said he showed up in his robe on a number of locations at public events. >> greg: maybe it is more sad. >> juan: he is 80h. >> dana: he's been in congress for 50 years. >> juan: longest serving member. >> dana: about the issue, whether we should have total transparency. sometimes mdas are there to protect the victim. i think victims deserve a say. >> kimberly: to honor the law and the contract and protect both sides. >> greg: do you think mdas are

prolong the problem? >> dana: hit doesn't mean there couldn't be a victim who says i don't want my name out there. >> kimberly: i think more than anybody they don't want it out there. it's not comfortable to come forward and make a claim. >> greg: you have serial abusers who continue because of the mdas. these are important questions. trump's person of the year tweet got a lot of pushback. was he right? needles.

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♪ >> dana: president trump's "time" feud and his pocahontas crack, both getting a lot of attention. next week, "time" magazine announces person of the year. the president created a frenzy over the weekend. this one claiming he pulled himself out of contention, saying: the publication dispute said, writing "the president is

incorrect about how we choose person of the year. time does not comment on our choice until publication which is december 6." "time" magazine does an online poll, not a scientific poll, they ask who should be person of the year. right now, at 4:00 today, mohammed bin solomon, crown prince of saudi arabia, 16%. then all sorts of other people. >> juan: i was going to say, kaepernick is number five. >> dana: its way down. >> greg: we know it is the garbage poll. america doesn't even know who he is. saudi bots voting for him. >> greg: they wanted trump, they contacted him. they wanted a fresh photo shoot. he said okay. my going to be man of the year?

they said probably. that's what maxim used to do. they would work with publicists to make deals. christina aguilera, you want a cover because it sells copies. you promise her number one and you often also offer gifts. do you think blake shelton won man of the year on "people?" they traded for exclusivity to talk about the relationship. trump realized time needed him more than he needed "time." it was a negotiation. pulled back the curtain. he said this is how magazines work. they were negotiating for a fresh photo shoot because they know he sells copies. he said i don't really need you and then everybody gets upset about it. they are upset about it because they can't believe a guy can operate with such a lack of humility, the kind of

insecurities they have. they say, how could he do this? because he can. >> juan: do you trust trump and not the editor, who had gladly said -- >> kimberly: why would he make that up? >> greg: i know how you do cover deals. >> juan: i know donald trump has a loose relationship with the facts and the truth. he is obsessed with this "time" magazine stuff. >> greg: i will bet you a steak dinner this conversation happened. >> juan: you won the last bet. >> dana: before we get to the other topic, kimberly? >> kimberly: i believe him. i think six exactly what happened. i know, like greg does, people try to get exclusives or magazine covers. give us a sit down, talk about this? okay, then you make a deal with them. i think they got humiliated because he went out and outed them essentially. now they are trying to back track. that's what happens all the

time. >> dana: when i was at the white house, these calls, we never thought president bush was going to be given the "time" cover. i don't know how many times he did. >> greg: this is what makes them different. my going to be man of the year or not? tell me. >> kimberly: are you giving it to me or not? >> jesse: ari fleischer, when he was press secretary, said in defense of trump about "time" magazine, "time" said bush might be man of the year. they went with mayor rudy giuliani. they call around. trump thinks he should be man of the year every year so whenever he's not, he believes he was robbed. that's fine. obama has the nobel peace prize his first year. >> juan: i don't think "time" magazine -- trump thinks it is the defining. >> dana: can we talk about our

other subject? the president was giving an event, the navajo code talkers. really great americans. they got to come to the oval office. that was the purpose of the event. he talked about tax reform and then he had a little bit of thi this. >> you were here long before any of us were here. although we have a representative in congress who they say was here a long time ago. they call her pocahontas. but you know what? i like you. you are special. >> dana: as soon as i heard it, i thought okay, we are not going to be talking about tax reform. sarah huckabee sanders, she was asked if it was offensive and she said i think what most people find offensive is senator warren lying about her heritage to advance her career. >> greg: i think he was saying you are real native americans

and i appreciate real native americans. not like this lady over here, pocahontas. you have to understand while we are watching this, we were all laughing because it's funny. it takes a very little part of your day. those guys were smiling. it was kind of funny. >> juan: i think they were older men and they didn't understand what was going on. >> kimberly: the older defense again. >> juan: i don't think those guys were in touch with the kind of current political climate. where trump goes after his political rivals. in this event with this kind of racist comments. >> jesse: come on, juan. >> greg: antiracist. he was saying you are native american. she wasn't. >> juan: when you start calling out people and say she is pocahontas. >> greg: it is because she lied. >> juan: your argument is it's a joke. i think to lots of people, it's not a joke. >> greg: if they can't find it

funny, they have defined their funny bone. they are four more years of it. >> dana: we defend these things by saying he is funny. he is like, don't be so thin-skinned. but when the she was on the other foot, it's a different situation. i don't know. >> kimberly: i don't know. i thought also, what was getting left behind. >> dana: they are true american heroes. we are glad the navajo code talkers got their moment in the oval office. kimberly breaks out the crown for some very big royal news next.

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stop the presses. since harry is officially off the market. sorry, ladies. the heartthrob is engaged to american actress meghan markle. fifth in line to the throne popped the question earlier this month with the blessing of grandma, the queen. they will marry sometime this spring. the happy couple appeared before cameras at kensington palace and then they give an interview to the bbc. >> was it an instant yes? >> yes, as a matter of fact, i could barely let you finish. >> she wouldn't let me finish. i had the ring. can i give you the ring? oh, yes, the ring. it was a nice moment. just the two of us. i think i managed to catch her by surprise. what about the ring? royal officials say the prince designed the sparkler himself. he is created as well. a large center diamond from botswana where the couple have

traveled. the two smaller outside stones are from his late mother diana's personal collection. sweet to have that special meaning. something from his mother and something that was meaningful for them, the trip they took together. >> dana: i think it's very exciting. i think they are obviously in love, and they have been given -- i think they have been given some good treatment by the press so far during their dating. also i think it's neat for america and the u.k. we have a special relationship going back as political allies but now i think this is even more fun for both countries. >> kimberly: i love it. jesse, do you like it? >> jesse: they are very sweet. i have so much to say about this. not really. no, it's beautiful. they look like they are in love. >> dana: you are a real romantic. >> jesse: i loved the special

relationship america has with great britain. i think it's going to afford an even stronger alliance. they look great together. she is beautiful. he fought the taliban in afghanistan. hats off to him. that's all i can come up with right now. >> kimberly: he served his country in the military. juan, you are into food. i don't know if you would like this tidbit. the royal couple said they were roasting a chicken on a cozy night at kensington palace when this happens. >> jesse: they are just like us. >> kimberly: just like us. i was impressed by that. >> juan: do you think they were personally roasting the chicken or having it roasted? i am all for it. i thought the most interesting thing i read about this with prince harry said he had gone to his brother and expressed how many years, he said to have been 20 years. his mom princess diana died when he was 12. that he was emotionally locked up and conflicted and he wasn't really able to love or speak to

people or do his best work and that he went into therapy, three years of therapy. it's helped him a lot. i think he credits that part with allowing him to be emotionally open to falling in love. that's great. the second thing that interested me as a black american is he says he thinks the press has been treating his fiancee with racial overtones because she is half white, half black. some of it is insensitive, he said and sexist. i don't think he thinks the press has been very fair to her. she is three years older than he has. i am surprised they are not picking on that. >> dana: they make a point to say it in every interview. >> jesse: she is robbing the cradle? >> juan: may be. >> kimberly: juan's comments were thoughtful and very good analysis. greg, we have left not much time for you. >> greg: i think i can speak

for most americans when i can say "shoot me in the face." let's get through this quickly. we'll have 30 seconds. she is a traitor. does the revolutionary war mean nothing to you? >> kimberly: oh, my -- >> greg: never forget. we didn't break free from russia. [laughter] stop it. what bugs me about this story is the assumption is that because someone cares, we all must care. i don't care. i don't care. royalty news is artificial nonsense. it's the monday reflex to cover a story the way we cover groundhog day. this is more tedious than groundhog day. there are other royalty stories we could cover. what about the saudi king? there is royalty. what about the prince -- didn't he owned fox news? >> kimberly: you are ruining

my segment. >> jesse: you are not getting invited to the royal wedding. >> greg: royalty as a reminder to everyone that life is a crapshoot. you do not pick your parents. one guy is a prince and in another area somebody is a pauper. it's unfair. >> kimberly: maybe you should take prince harry's advice and go to counseling. >> greg: i got in so much trouble saying i was going to interview the baby's umbilical cord. saying i was insulting the royal baby. no, i wasn't. >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. stay right there.

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♪ >> jesse: welcome back. there is more football controversies. this time it has nothing to do with the anthem protest. first up, raiders clobbered the broncos yesterday after a different kind of fight broke out on the field in the first quarter. >> we have a fight on the other side. look at this. crabtree. helmets being thrown. referee is down and holding onto his ribs. >> jesse: a bitter rivalry renewed between michael crabtree and aqib talib. both players got ejected. team members from both sides got involved. things to go out to settle down. the raiders guard was ejected for making contact with the referee. i know you know everything about the back story to this. >> dana: i remember growing up when elway was the quarterback. denver hated the oakland raider oakland raiders. >> jesse: that's all you know. kind of like the last segment on the royals. >> greg: i find it weird you

get ejected from a game as punishment. that would seem like a reward. get out in shower early. is there any way for me to get ejected early from "the five"? >> dana: yes. >> kimberly: yes, kick you out. >> greg: it would be great. i would be home. >> dana: and not be upset? i would be mortified. i would never get over it. >> greg: did you ever get suspended from school? >> kimberly: obviously no. i want to ask what you did to get suspended. >> greg: firecrackers. >> jesse: wouldn't you like to know what set off this scene onn the field in tennessee? high school cheerleader caught on tape grabbing the quarterback by his mask to give him a piece of her mind. was it a quarrel? the young woman says no. posted on twitter, for everybody

who saw that video of me and dylan hopkins. we are very good friends, and it's not what it looks like. kimberly, you've never done that any player you've been dating? >> kimberly: [laughs] >> jesse: you are not going out with your friends after the game! >> kimberly: i wouldn't have to persuade in this fashion, let's be honest. i like it's a good idea to pull someone by their face mask. i would throw a flag on that play. 15 yards. i don't think that looks so charming or consensual. >> jesse: juan, what do you think was happening? >> juan: the previous segment, people throwing punches at people with helmets. now she is grabbing the face mask, as kimberly points out. penalty, penalty. she says they are friends. maybe they are boyfriend-girlfriend. that is one way to get your man's attention. >> jesse: highly embarrassing. i don't think they are going to be dating much longer. >> dana: you know how you have

caption contests. that's pretty fun. if she was going to tweet about it, i wish she would tell us more, what she told him. >> jesse: we want the gossip. >> kimberly: probably involved another cheerleader. >> greg: doesn't it always? every problem in life, it involves another cheerleader. i want a movie about everything that led to that moment reconstructed three ways from three different directors. >> kimberly: it is called "love actually." >> greg: don't ever say those words in front of me. you know when when i hear thatt very angry. it's over now. >> jesse: there isn't a thing this white house can do without the liberal media crying foul. now even about pi. true story. another day at the office.

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♪ >> juan: white house press secretary sarah sanders decided to do some baking. why is that news? she posted a picture of her chocolate pecan pie online and it looked picture-perfect. almost immediately critics questioned its authenticity. april ryan was among the

skeptics. she tweeted "show it to us on a table." sanders fired back. "don't worry, april ryan. i will bake one for you next week." oh, my gosh. >> dana: i think they were joking. first of all, it's ridiculous for anyone to suggest sarah huckabee sanders wouldn't know how to bake. >> greg: she is a woman. >> dana: no. >> greg: i guess all women know how to make pies. you know what i'm going to say? i'm with april. this pie looks too perfect. it's like when bill hemmer posts instagram pictures of his quads. that's not you, bill. i want to see the real thing. i'm surprised a typical liberal doesn't believe anyone could make their own pie. >> dana: i think people got carried away. i think april was probably joking.

>> juan: let's hope. i don't know. take it to a serious level, jesse. >> jesse: yap. >> juan: i am with dana. if you want to be serious, this has to do with, we were talking about the "time" magazine thing or the biggest inauguration ever. is it about the credibility? april ryan doesn't believe anything that comes out of the mouth of this administration. >> jesse: let's get to the crust of the matter. i mean the crux of the matter. the trust has crumbled. it's an important ingredient. without it, it's a recipe for disaster. the public doesn't have the appetite for these. i am glad sanders took the high road, or the high road. >> kimberly: peter would do something like that. gave you a little bit of mincemeat pie there. >> jesse: is it pecan or

pe-can? >> juan: april ryan says show us people eating. why show it on the table? >> kimberly: show me the pipe era she wants to see it in person. up close and personal. serve it up. people are obsessing about the pecan pie thing or -- i think, did sarah sanders bake the pie? i don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about it. i would've gone to a bakery and bought one. >> juan: she is from arkansas. a southern woman shouldn't be question, i'm told, on her cooking. "one more thing" up next. mes an. ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors

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you can get digital subscriptions but teachers and librarians have been telling parents it's good for children to have the actual book. this year, the world encyclopedia is only $899. it's usually 1,099. >> greg: i didn't say encyclopedia britannica. i said the people's almanac. >> kimberly: i had a fantastic time with my friend kat. she performed at the carlisle this weekend. fabulous show. it was packed, totally sold out. very exciting. celebrating her new album that you can get now called "i fall in love too easily." we went out. she was accompanied by some acclaimed musicians during the performances. harmonica and trumpet and special guest david foster. take a listen.

♪ >> jesse: very nice. >> kimberly: you remember her as an alum from "american idol." >> greg: time for... i am over 50, which means i can see the end. before 50, your 40s, going up a hill, having fun, parting. then you are at the top of the hill. you can see the end. you know it's coming. there's less time ahead of you than there is behind and it speeds up. it's really bad. there's no upside to the downside. so why do i have a zit? nobody over 50 should be getting

zits. >> kimberly: it is because you are so juvenile. >> greg: i can't have wrinkles and zits at the same time. >> kimberly: i can't relate to that. >> greg: of course, juan. you are beautiful. >> juan: thank you. thanksgiving kicked off the holiday season. family time for everybody. here are a few pictures of how we spent the holiday weekend. that's my grandson chopping a christmas tree. that's my brother, roger, cutting the turkey. we have two couples getting married next june and july. marissa is my niece. reagan and patrick christmas tree chopping in maryland. i think maryland. >> dana: that is a riveting

photo. >> juan: then we went to the mall so the grandkids could get pictures with santa. there they are at santa's lap at pentagon city. everybody showed up for the 2017 christmas picture. >> greg: that saved? no more pictures? >> jesse: philadelphia eagles still rolling. 10-1 of the season. they crushed the chicago bears. nice touchdown pass. had a great celebration in the end zone afterwards. check this out. there's the ball, and there is the strike. down they go. getting a little creative. see you at the super bowl. sorry, juan. >> dana: end zone events. >> jesse: i am fully supportive. having a lot of fun. >> kimberly: i think you might have an ingrown hair, actually.

>> greg: it's a pimple. >> kimberly: i don't think so. >> juan: may be kimberly would squeeze it for you. >> ew! so disgusting. >> kimberly: i am bret baier in washington. two prominent lawmakers are vowing to cooperate with ethics investigations into their actions following recent sexual misconduct claims. james rosen reports one of the lawmakers is facing reporters for the first time while another received an unusual defense from america's most powerful female officeholder. >> i am going to try to learn from my mistakes. >> and his first news conference since four women accused him of sexual misconduct, democratic senator al franken of minnesota said he's tremendouslyor