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kaepernick controversy. god bless him. he's the best of what the country represents and the league is suffering as they should for what they allowed to happen. that's all the time we have left. shannon bream is next. takes it away. >> shannon: president trump versus one of his top senate rivals, elizabeth warren, over who is now running a controversial, powerful federal agency. >> if the court decides to issue a temporary restraining order, i will absolutely follow the law. >> shannon: a bitter dispute over who is leading the consumer federal protection for your leads to court. as we await the decision, senator mike lee joins us to wait and pray top democrats rally behind john conyers and question his accusers. >> i don't know who they are. >> he was walking around in his underwear. >> shannon: there a growing
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split in the democratic party. townhall.com editor guy benson is here with analysis. plus... >> i can barely let you finish. >> shannon: one of our favorite birds, nile gardiner, breaks down prince harry's engagement to a commoner. an american divorcee, no less. ♪ >> shannon: hello, and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washington. tonight, a legal battle between president trump and senator elizabeth warren. it is all about who is in charge of cfpb, it is tasked with regulating the country's financial industries. but the original director, who had a long and bumpy path to its own confirmation, suddenly stepped down this weekend. naming deputy director leandra english as acting director.
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but not so fast. president trump says he is the one who holds the power to appoint the acting director and he's chosen a fierce critic of the agency whose side he wishes it didn't even exist. we are talking about budget director mick mulvaney. that leads us to the sunday night lawsuit and it was our monday morning work day for cfpb employees, as both english and mulvaney say, don't listen to them, listen to me. peter doocy has the latest. peter, are both of these people claiming to be a director, doing the exact same job? >> shannon, they sent out a separate mass emails to employees, signed with the title, "acting director." first, a note from leandra english, the obama era pulled over, with thanksgiving wishes for the staff. then, for mick mulvaney with instructions to ignore anything leandra english tells them to d do. >> i think it is more awkward for the people who work here. i don't know her. i think i read a couple of
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headlines saying that they were two people who showed up claiming to be director. but i can assure you she wasn't here. >> shannon: mick mulvaney says she he has never met leandra englis english. they were receiving her like she is the new acting director of the consumer financial protection bureau, which was born after the 2008 financial crisis as part of the dodd-frank wall street regulation to protect american consumers and punish companies that take advantage of them. the reason there is confusion of the top of the cfpb, the longtime director richard cordray just resigned years after being handpicked for the job by now senator elizabeth warren and given a job with a reset appointment by president obama, which was later found unconstitutional because the senate wasn't actually in recess when it was made. but they later confirmed them anyway and now that he's out of the picture, has number two, leandra english, thinks she automatically ascends to the top spot even though the new president is trying to put someone who shares his
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priorities at the top. shannon. >> shannon: okay, peter, this obviously is in court. we are standing by, we can get a decision at any time. what is happening? >> we learned that the government can possibly disputee the dispute by firing leandra english, something her attorney was not happy about. >> i think is disturbing that the justice department's lawyers were unwilling to provide the court of any reassurances that miss english will not be removed and i think that highlights the need for a quick resolution from the court. >> on the bench in this case, judge timothy kelley, a trump appointee, he told the government lawyers that they have until tonight to oppose a restraining order that leandra english is trying to get to keep mulvaney away from the building. it's worth pointing out, though, all of this is just to become the acting director, the person in charge only into the president takes a permanent replacement and nominates them and waits for them to be confirmed. shannon. >> shannon: peter doocy, thank you very much.
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my next guest says the agency at the center of this dispute is a poorly designed, unaccountable, and ultimately unconstitutional agency. despite that, he has a strong opinion about who should be running it in the meantime while it still exists. senator mike lee from utah joins us now. qaddafi with us, senator. as big a thank you. >> shannon: we have a lawsuit that kicked off last night. you are a constitutional expert, so i want to read you a little bit of what leandra english, who says she is the acting director, has to say. she says the dodd-frank act, the whole act that created the cfpb, it's clear that that deputy director shall serve as the acting director in the absence or unavailability of the director. they go on to take the president believes he has the authority t to -- but the act, by its own terms, does not apply where another statute expressly designates an officer or employee to perform the acting capacity can which exactly with
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the dodd-frank act does. how would you resolve this? >> in that circumstance, we would look to whether or not the director is absent or unavailable. in this circumstance, he is not out of town are going under the knife or the surgery, he is gon gone. this is different than a mere absence or lack of immediate availability. what controls here is the federal vacancies reform act. that gives the president the power to designate who the acting director is. it gives the president the power to make sure that somebody who has been confirmed by the senate, mick mulvaney in this instance, can actually had this government office. that is the president's prerogative to do so. >> shannon: we are standing by for the federal judge, timothy kelley, still interesting because he was appointed just a few weeks ago. he was a president trump appointee, now sitting -- i think it was september, he was confirmed. now we await to hear his decision. meanwhile, only two senators in my understanding voted against him, one of them being elizabeth warren. i'm sure she's not happy about
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it. it happens. as we wait to hear from him, the senate's top democrat, chuck schumer, went to the floor, to say you got to watch out, here is what he thinks the president is up to. >> mr. mulvaney is only the latest in a long line of trojan horse candidates selected by the white house to undermine federal agencies from within. the cfpb should be led by someone who believes in its mission, someone who is committed to working around-the-clock on behalf of consumers. not by a part-time director who clearly disdains the agency. >> shannon: okay, and to that point, mick mulvaney has not minced words about this. he said, i don't like the fact that the cfpb exists. he said that it's a sad, sick joke. he doesn't even want this agency to exist and now he is tapped with leading end. do the democrats have a point that it's not fair to appoint someone to run it? >> is unconstitutional.
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we've taken a government office, we've insulated it from all government influence, all influence of the the american s can give it. we've given that the power of lawmaker, a law enforcer, and line interpreter. that's not right. that is one of the reasons why mick mulvaney is the guy that we need a heading the agency. i would worry about president trump's decision to put anyone in there if that person were saying, there is nothing wrong with the cfpb, nothing wrong with his unbridled discretion. historically, it has been reserved for despots. >> shannon: despots, wow. those are strong words. a lot of people are saying that it's a lot like scott pruitt, a frequent epa credit, lawsuits, legal battles, that kind of thing, and helping appointed to. they seat as a pattern by the president to put someone in there who wants to destroy an agency. that he doesn't like her or his administration thinks it is in of a taxpayer. >> may be that that is his point of view but if their point of view is that someone who calls t
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unconstitutional acts for what they are, someone who says that this to concentrate this much power and the hands of a few individuals, who are not themselves elected lawmakers, who are going to be given broad policymaking power, that is a problem, that is remarkable in and of itself. >> shannon: we will stand by to say what this judge decides. my guess is whatever the decision is, it will be appealed. >> i think that's a fair bet for a duty to go to pilot litigator and i'm sure everyone is gearing up for that. >> shannon: thanks, senator. top house democrat nancy pelosi is coming into damage control after sexual harassment allegations against michigan democrat john conyers and her reaction to him over the weekend. just yesterday, she called him the longest-serving member of congress, an icon. and question the women accusing him of harassment. also, minnesota senator al franken is issuing an apology, sort of, for his behavior. ed henry has the latest.
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good evening. >> shannon, great to see you. only a few short weeks ago that democrats were enjoying the fact that republicans were on defense over sexual allegations against roy moore. now, the story has boomerang to that as you noted, new tonight come house democratic leader nancy pelosi is in full damage o whether she has been too lenien lenient. sheet revealing a short time ago that today, she finally met with a former conyers staffer after what can only be called a disastrous appearance on nbc's "meet the press," and which is she stumbled, sparking a furious response of a former conyers staffer. a speaker do you believe john conyers -- >> i don't know who they are. they have not really come forward. >> you don't know if you believe the accusations? >> that's for the ethics committee to review. >> the ethics committee has never been known for taking a tough stance for unethical
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conduct by any member of congress, often just a black hole where allegations go to die, we never hear about them again. conyers would berate me horribly and he wants pulled me out of a meeting with domestic violence advocates, no less, and started screaming at me in the hallway. the other instance, where i was called to go into his office and he was walking around in his underwear. >> after melanie sloan's appearance on fox today, pelosi revealed that at some point today, she met with sloan and an ethics expert to figure out how to clean up a system that has allowed an untold number of lawmakers in both parties to tap into a so-called slush fund to secretly settle sexual harassment allegations with, yes, taxpayer money. pelosi adding an written statement, "i find the behavior of ms. long described unacceptable and disappointing. i believe what ms. sloan has told me. i have not had the opportunity to speak with the other women, one of whom it cannot speak publicly because of the secret of process in place. that ridiculous system must be ended." that her actions and i came
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under pressure, after she took heat from the left and the right. look at this, editor laura mcgann tweeting "nancy pelosi went on national tv and went through a list of excuses that are the very reasons women are afraid to report sexual harassment in the first place." then, matt schlapp suggested the real reason that she was soft on conyers because she is a survivor, and knows she can't lose support and a black caucus, so she is gentle with conyers. it's always about power. speaking of power, several men in both parties are trying to hold onto it. in addition to conyers, who has now stepped out from a top democratic spot on the house judiciary committee, but is not resigning his seat, to house republican joe martin, and senator al franken, democrat from minnesota, who returned to work today. franken basically overlapped 24 hours, took questions from reporters for the first time after groping allegations. he said he's embarrassed by by all that but plans to work hard to win back the trust of voters, who in his words, counted on him
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to be a champion for women. shannon. >> shannon: much more to come on this. ed henry, thank you very much. this is a fox news alert pretensions running high at an event for alabama senate candidate roy moore tonight. fox news crews were confronted by members of the moore campaign. moore has been accused by 89 women of some kind of sexual misconduct. tonight was his first public appearance is november 16. live in alabama to explain what happened and to tell us about what the candidate had to say tonight. hi, jonathan. >> hi, shannon. the scuffle happened as roy moore was arriving at a campaign stop in alabama, and a rally in a small town community, organizers initially inform the media that moore will be parking at the front entrance, walking into the front entrance. that is where the cameras were stationed. when his car arrived, it pulled around to a side entrance. camera started running to the side entrance to get a shot of the candidate emerging from a
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car, and that is when two individuals, durwood reagan, affiliated with the g.o.p., the other being tony goolsby, the chairperson for the roy moore campaign, decided to push the cameras back and physically manhandle two fox news photographers, pushing them away and grabbing their cameras. at some point during the scuffle, you hear my producer, david, trying to intervene, telling him and not to touch the cameras. it's not unusual for people to get bumped around about an immediate scrum. this is not a scrum, though. it's highly unusual for members of a political campaign to physically engage in this manner with members of the press. i will point out, shannon, all this took place on public property at a city on community center and fox had rsvped it to the event with the names of the photographers and other staff covering it, and the campaign responded, acknowledging receipt of the rsvp. as for the rest of the rally, it was peaceful. roy moore london and talked
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about the race itself, he denied allegations of sexual misconduct, but he took no questions from the media, and all questions from the audience. shannon. >> shannon: jonathan serrie live on the scene for us in alabama. thank you so much. for more, guy benson, political editor for townhall.com. good to see you tonight. this thing in alabama, gets heated, crowded, and a lot of times people are locally in campaign thinking they are protecting their candidate in some way or pushing back against the media. if what you think happened? >> a padlock on a string of really bad lucks for the roy moore campaign, shoving reporters and journalists out of the way because they weren't supposed to be there on public property, just filming a candidate walking to his own event. a candidate, who, by the way, is doing no interviews, really, with a media aside from very friendly commentators as he just tries to hunker down on weight this thing out and try to win a special election in a couple weeks. i think there's a reason why he won't answer tough questions, and this is another example that
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his campaign is trying to insulate him from any possibility of uncomfortable in corey's his direction. >> shannon: you know his folks will say that he is done through interviews with sean hannity and other outlets, and he's presented the facts of each cases, and he continues to deny that. they are still asking to see the yearbook and test the writing. they say they have answer these questions but obviously, there is a bit of a dust up. sean hannity asks some tough questions but i don't think moore acquitted himself well. since then, it has not been interviews with journalists, it has been interviews with very friendly parties. i think it's fair for them to ask for the yearbook, since that is one piece of physical evidence and get it in front of some handwriting experts, i think that is a legitimate question to raise. also the eight other women who have people that corroborated that they told people contemporaneously that these things happen to them. he also married a woman who was a mad yearbook, the same age as
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one of the accusers. >> shannon: out when she was a teenager, just so we are clear. she was in her mid-20s. >> same age, though. >> shannon: these democrats -- do democrats have any moral high ground? they are dealing with their own issues. i want to read a little better but what we are reading. we heard nancy pelosi, we sell the sound bite, where she said, i "i don't know who these accusers are." she knew that at least one of them couldn't come through. when pressed, she talked with melanie sloan, one of the accusers, tonight she had this to say. i find the behavior muscle describes unacceptable and disappointing. i believe what she has told me. so now, they have said, you should believe everyone, i don't know who they are, and now, they believe everyone. >> this is some backpedaling after a catastrophic appearance on "meet the press." she defended john conyers with every excuse in the book and dismissing, one or two women, i can say i believe them, no, i
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want say he'll resign or ought to resign. she defended bill clinton, who was credibly accused of rape, an awkward position for her to be in. she was roundly criticized from the right and left, now she is saying, never mind, when i say zero tolerance i mean consequences, now i believe the woman. there are two other women that she has as much with yet. it's awfully tough for the democratic party to claim any moral high ground will one of their top leaders is going through these gymnastics. we might get to al franken. >> shannon: let me ask you about this. i want to. you part of his apology, some people say it's not an apology. "i'm a warm person, a hug people, and some of those encounters, i crossed the line for some women. i know that any number is too many. some women have found my greetings, and braces, inappropriate and i respect their feelings about that." if we are talking about cupping and grabbing someone's butt, i don't know that this will be
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inadequate apology or acknowledgment of what he allegedly did. >> he is just a hugger. he's a little too warm. >> shannon: the hogs were really low, apparently. >> when you look at this so-called apology today and in some other interviews he did yesterday, he is arguing essentially that he is deeply, deeply sorry, he wants everyone to know how sorry he is for the behavior that he does not recall and will not confirm that he engaged in. he says, okay, i was wrong to have my hands over the breasts of the woman in the photo. but then, the forcible kiss, he remembers that differently. these grabbing's, i get jostled around and chaotic photo ops. i'm sorry, who gets jostled around and photo ops to the point that you are accidentally grabbing multiple rear ends? to pretend this is incidental contact that was misinterpreted, but he respects their interpretation, multiple times with multiple women, who say
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very unequivocally, he grabbed my butt? i can't believe he is getting away with this middle ground, because i apology nonsense. >> shannon: something tells me that is not over, any of these stories are not over. more to come. guy, thanks for checking in. >> always interesting. >> shannon: this conversation is very interesting, though a little uncomfortable. coming up, from tax reform to avoiding a government shutdown, congress has its hands very full. will the g.o.p. get something done and quiet the growing force of critics inside and outside the party? plus, general jack keane breaks down the big meeting with president -- and why is russia pointing fingers of blame at the u.s.? and royal wedding bells will soon be ringing. will there be a real life american princess? >> having american married to royalty is everything. it shows the world that we are a better place together.
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publicly saying they are no votes. wisconsin senator ron johnson and montana's steve daines say they are against the bill unless there are some fixes. there appeared to be at least eight republicans total with some kind of serious reservations, many of them because of deficit projections analysis from the congressional budget office. it's concluding the senate plan would lead to an increase in a deficit of $1.4 trillion over the next ten years. so far, there are 22 confirmed g.o.p. yes votes in the senate, including rand paul, who announced his support today. leaves a whole lot more republicans unaccounted for. the president said he won't hesitate to reach across the aisle to get this thing done. >> if we would not, we will get some democratic senators joining us. if we don't would not they will not be joining us, you understand that. if we win, we will probably have a bipartisan bill, a number of people will come over. >> shannon: democrats are sticking to their talking points, saying the bill is tax
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cuts to wealthy. politicos alex isenstadt and washington times opinion editor charles hurt joins us. charles, that sounds formal prayer can we go with charlie? all right, guys. we are talking all kinds of things. immigration, funding issues, government shutdowns, all kinds of things. right now, taxes. alex, do the republicans get this thing across the line? >> probably. they need to pray they need to get this done. this takes a really high, the dash they need to show they can get something done legislatively and handed donald trump or legislative victory. a lot of republicans want this to happen. it is likely to get across the final line. >> shannon: there are questions about whether this thing will even get out of committee, which would be disastrous, if it doesn't get out of the senate finance committee because a republican votes no, that is bad news. >> it's really bad news. i agree with alex.
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i think they get something done. it's not only a win for the president, it's a legislative win for themselves. failing to get health care through was an unmitigated disaster. if failure to get tax cuts throh would be, i think of a political suicide for republicans. we have seen this many times around here, nothing inspires these people to pull a rabbit out of a hat like the dash christmas coming on, and the imperative of getting something done. this notion that which mcconnell has floated about marrying the removal of the mandate with tax cuts, suddenly that makes it very interesting and i think it is bolder but also it makes it more likely that everybody comes at the end of the day and -- we have to get something done and let's get on this train. to speed when i asked leader mcconnell the last time i sat down with him, i said, will i b, we make these plans and then we
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get to this place, when do they get things passed? >> they got to get tax cut stones, government spending issues on the table, you got a tremendous amount of drama with the alabama senate race. a lot of other issues at the forefront in december. it will be a jam-packed month. >> shannon: my understanding is there will be a push, if roy moore wins, a push to push back, the acceptance of whoever wins, based on how the voting impact what they are trying to get done. we need to talk about another of many scandal that happened today. the president was hosting and honoring kim a native american native american code talkers, charlie is getting very excited. and there were some things that he said that sparked from reaction. we will be all that for you. >> you were here long before any of us were here. although we have a representative in congress who they say that here was here a long time ago. they call her pocahontas. >> it is deeply unfortunate that
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the president of the united states cannot even make it through a ceremony honoring these heroes without having to throw out a racial slur. >> i think what most people find offensive is senator warren lying about her heritage to advance her career. >> shannon: oh, alex, where did we go? >> [laughs] the issue here is that donald trump wants to go after warren, he sees her as someone who could run against him in 2020? >> shannon: a lot of republicans would love to see her run. >> al franken, some different issues there, another person who was rumored. one wonders if trump is focusing on these people who, if he's potential opponents opponents in 2020. >> shannon: sarah sanders wants to know why more people aren't focused on elizabeth warren claiming to be native american, which she admitted to come after years of denying it, saying it didn't happen, i think it was in
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2012, admitted that she may have indicated that at some point she had native american heritage as part of my career advancement while i was teaching him all school. no one will investigate that. >> is a perfectly fair question to ask. i think that the biggest thing for donald trump is that he loves -- i think the word is trolling -- he loves driving his enemies crazy, especially in the press. he lobs these hand grenades because he knows they will go bonkers for days on end. >> shannon: was at the format, though, with these gentlemen, who are true heroes? >> i get your point. that is a fair criticism. at the same time, for a guy who is now mike has built his entire political career, which is not that long, on being sort of politically incorrect, very daring, and unpredictable, it's par for the course. >> shannon: charles, alex, good to see you both. glad you made it back from things giving. see you soon. coming up, new details on the
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>> shannon: sources close to the russian investigation told fox news they are starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. a key phase of special counsel robert mueller's sprawling probe allegations of collusion between the kremlin and the trump campaign apparently coming to a close. james rosen joins us now with the details. good evening. good evening. >> good to be with you. a source close to the investigation told fox news that the president's legal team expects that by the end of next week, the interviews of white house aides being conducted by the office of the special counsel will be completed. asked how many white house staffers remain to be
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interviewed, they say about a half-dozen. lawyers for president trump do not expect any request for the president himself to be interviewed. there has been no internal or external discussion of that. at the same time, the case of former white house security advisor mike flynn appears to be advancing. "abc news" reported that flynn's lawyer mount of the special counsel today, following last week's disclosure that flynn's lawyer had seized sharing information with lawyers for the president. flynn and his son, michael, reportedly under federal scrutiny for his firm's work on behalf of the government of the turkish president. investigators are said to be probing whether general flynn improperly withheld data from federal forums about his representation of targus interests for which he only registered as a foreign agent belatedly in march. after he was fired from the white house. general flynn is said to have worked on a documentary film critical of exile turkish cleric, who spent the last 20 years living in pennsylvania,
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and whom the turkish government blames for inserting a failed coup in turkey. still, others have charged that he was contemplating some kind of kidnapping mission, something flynn's lawyer has denied. in all, lawyers for the president and his supporters project confidence now that any crimes michael flynn may have committed, and we should know that he has been charged nothing at this point, likely derived from his work with targus interests, not from anything having to do with the president or russia. >> is the president has had on multiple occasions, there has been no credible evidence showing any kind of collusion with the russians in the trump campaign, so these are probably just issues relating to general flynn and his outside business dealings and not directly related to this. >> i have heard some of what mark was saying, people feel like this isn't raising as i anxiety levels, there is a sense that flynn has to make his own choices, it doesn't blow back on the president. but there is also a reality that this white house is dealing with
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a cloud and investigation. >> after the interview phase is over, the president expects us, expects director mueller to make his decision as to whether he will file more charges. they say he does not want to prolong these proceedings. spearing >> shannon: having copr these things, sometimes they take years. the fact that who we talking about wrapping up seems pretty succinct. >> it would be. we don't know how much cooperation mr. mueller is going to have a from the likes of some of the folks he has indicted, who have pleaded not guilty, like paul manafort and rick cates. we don't know what the level of cooperation from general flynn is going to be. even once cases are adjudicated, as we both know, the appeals process can drag on for some time. >> shannon: by the way, thank you for joining us on "fox news @ night," your first live appearance with us. >> it is my honor. did i do all right? >> shannon: i will give you an a+. no appeals necessary. james, thank you. coming up, as north korea may be
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for another ballistic missile launch. today, president trump met with his defense secretary, jim mattis. i'm sure that was on the conversation list. general jack keane joins us to talk about the latest developments. always good to see you. let's talk about north korea. there is a sense that they have been quiet. do we think it's the pressure of working on them or are they giving up for something they hope will shock the world? >> i think most of us, hopeful like we are, is that some of this pressure has had an impact on them and they have gone quiet, possibly reconsidering their position. if they start testing again, they haven't tested integral months, haven't been a nuclear test in nine months. if they start testing again, it is likely that the envoy from china, who just visited recently, trying to negotiate with them, that has not succeeded, to the point where north korea north north koreans are willing to stand down somewhat and maybe get into some kind of negotiation phase as a result of
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that. if testing resumes, and the bellicose resumes, we are back where we were. steve and the foreign minister, rushers -- >> shannon: russia's deputy foreign minister is saying, i have to say regretfully that thn undertook in october, november, the unplanned drills, affect greatly our dialogue on settlement on the basis of the road map. the united states and its allies should reduce the scale of the regular military exercises they are holding in the region of the korean peninsula." essentially, we are provoking things that could be apocalyptic, pointing the blame, not solely at the u.s., he is felt in korea, too, pointing a lot of fingers at us. >> first of all, we have been doing testing since the armistice back in 1953, not testing but training together. south korea is our ally and we have to practice. we did upscale the exercise, certainly, when we had three carrier battle groups in that
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region at the same time. we had not come out in ten years. that is indeed a fact. what we are responding to is an accelerated ballistic testing program to miniaturize these weapons on top of an icbm, all initiated by kim jong un. simply trying to convince him that there really is a military option that is here and that it something that you don't want to go toward and here is some evidence of what that could be like. so i think it is reasonable, what we did in response, i don't think that level and scale is going to continue. we'll return to the farm where we do annual exercises. >> shannon: in egypt, the horrific bombing on friday. 25 to 30 gunmen flying to black ice is flake, waiting outside for people who survived that explosion, simply gunned down in the streets. more than 300 people, including 27 children were killed there. how are things going there? the president has been very --
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has a very full plate. >> this reminds us how brutal radical islam is and how brutal they are on people who are of the same faith as there is. they kill more muslims than they do non-muslims and that has been a pattern, regardless of what the radical islamic organization is. in this case, they have been at war for four years. he is struggling pretty as a pretty good -- they are conventional military organized and designed to fight other armies. they do not do well, and they have not done well against the unconventional aspect of writing a terrorist insurgency. what they are doing as they are using the conventional weapons it indiscriminately against the enemy, killing large numbers of civilians, alienating the population, and as a result, they get no information from the population. that population is not supportive of isis. what they should be doing is what we did in iraq, protect the
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population. isolate the population from the terrorists, they will be supportive of us, and we can start to move forward because they are the source of all knowledge of what is going on, when you get down ..oesn't changewn his strategy, he will continue to struggle. >> shannon: a lot of folks speculating that this attack may actually backfire on isis because, if the folks feel they are being targeted, as he he s, el-sisi has to be careful of his targets, they are looking for someone to be able to cheer for, and that is not isis at this point. or ever. in general, great to see you. coming up, highlights from the newest while couples first interview. stick around. ♪
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aide to prime minister margaret thatcher, and he has met the queen, which i cannot say. what a treat. >> it certainly was. i met her twice. the queen is an outstanding person, a great leader, i think, for the british nation, and for the commonwealth, as well. >> shannon: apparently, she had to sign off on this. if you are a certain, and lying to the throne, within six -- i think he's faith. you have to go to the queen for the approval. this is so interesting, you are talking about an american, she's been divorced, she's an actress, stunningly beautiful. they seem very much in love. but harry has gone a nontraditional route in finding a bride. >> that is right. certainly, it was a case that prince harry had to ask the permission of the queen to mary meghan markle. that is a significant development. prince harry has been an unconventional royal, though. he has certainly come in recent years, i think i'm a become an
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outstanding leader figure. he served two tours of duty in afghanistan, right on the front lines in the war against the taliban. he's been a tremendous figure in support of veterans charities, including the walking with a wounded, a charity he was a founder, the infected us, and so prince harry's popularity if the british public has soared in recent years. he is really seen today as a born leader. i think there is tremendous celebration in the u.k. over today's announcement. >> shannon: a lot of broken hearts now that it's official. he apparently is moving forward with an american, which makes us -- listen, we are interested in this. not everybody but a lot of us, we like to watch the royals, we think it's interesting. she'll become a duchess. it's a lot of fun to watch. both of them talked today. i want to play a little bit of what meghan had to say about the queen. >> it's incredible. i think, you know, a, to be able
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to meet her through his lens, not just with his honor and respect for her as the monarch, but the love that he has for her as his grandmother, all of those layers have been so important for me, so when i met her, i had such a deep understanding, and of course, incredible respect for being able to have the time with her. we have had a really -- she's an incredible woman. >> shannon: meeting the parents is one thing. meeting the grandmother who happens to be the queen, that is got to be crazy. harry talked about how meghan has essentially become a member of the team. this is a team. >> it certainly is. it's an extremely important team at the helm of great britain. i think the addition of meghan markle will be a significant boost to the relationship between america and the u.k. great news strengthening the alliance between the america in the u.k., the beating heart of the free world. i think she will be warmly
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embraced by the british people. i think she will be the first american to marry into the royal family. a very significant development. i think a very, very good day for the united states and great britain and for the anglo-american special relationship. >> shannon: a very special relationship. we'll see if we get invited to the wedding. they talked about doing something nontraditional. we want to become a fancy wedding. we'll be watching, and we will need more of your input. >> i'll be delighted. >> shannon: good to see you. it is the most wonderful time of the year in washington, especially for a special group of children who were the very first ladies guests at the i no longer live with the uncertainties of hep c. wondering, what if? i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common
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