4:00 a.m. don't miss that. >> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the body count grows higher by the day. nbc news fired matt lauer as you have heard by now. 24 hours after they say they first received a complaint of sexual misconduct against him. the announcement came this morning from lauer's cohost savannah guthrie. >> good morning. breaking news overnight. matt lauer has been terminated from nbc news. >> we are heart broken. heart broken for matt. he is my dear, dear friend and my partner and he is loved by many people here. i'm heart broken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story. and any other women who have their own stories to tell. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have

behaviored badly -- behaved badly? i don't know the answer to that. >> tucker: a pretty heavy moment. t the story released by "variety" shortly after lauer was fired offered further lurid details about his behavior at nbc. gave a colleague a sex toy as a present and expressed a desire to use it with her and invited a different woman to his office and dropped his pants. while there, "variety" found three women willing to accuse him of harassment but none of them willing to do so by name. the celebrity news site tmz and hosts "objectified" here on fox and harvey joins us tonight. nwhat is the latest on this? >> the interesting thing we are pursuing, nbc is saying this this is the first complaint thaw -- they received on monday, which i get. but the issue is not necessarily the first complaint. the issue is when did people start talking about this?y

there is a video which we found from 2006. this is when meredith viera was co-hosting with him. you know the way it works on the morning show. 7:25 and 8:25, they go to the local stations for a five-minute news break. there is a station in kansas that didn't go to the local station and they just kept the feed going from "today" show in new york. and you have this video that we found. >> tucker: we do. we will put it on the air so the viewers can know what we are talking about. t >> i'll meet you outside. bye. >> bye. >> sweater. keeping it on like that is a nice view. >> tucker: so that aired in kansas live? >> it aired in kansas. but the reason it is significant is he has a

microphone. hot mic. control room there. people can listen including the executive producer. so this stuff is apparently going on. then there is another video we got from 2012, andy cohen doesin the show on bravo. "watch what happens live," which is owned by nbc, bravo. and katie asked by andy what is the most annoying thing about matt lauer? i'll paraphrase she said well, he always would pinch my butt. that made some news, actually.y. so there were kind of rumblings of things that were going on for a long time.or even though nbc didn't receive a complaint until monday one of the things people are wondering about is how could all of this have been so secretive? >> tucker: that is a question. apparently there are at least off the record accounts of former nbc employees saying look we went to management but

we are brushed off. the timeline is a little confusing. the incident for which lauer was apparently fired tookim place during the 2014 wintert olympics. >> in sochi. >> tucker: in sochi but produced a relationship that continued after that. what do you know about that? >> there are reports that there might have been photos that matt lauer sent to an intern. "new york post" wrote about this late this afternoon, a few minutes ago actually that may have sent the pictures so this intern who still works at nbc. so, you know, i don't know the specifics. but it does -- everything we are hearing is the complaint emanates from sochi. you should know that noah openheim the current nbc news president had meetings separately today with the various shows on nbc news "dateline, "meet the press"" "nightly news." he didn't get into the

specifics of why they fired matt nor did he talk about who will replace matt but he did say at a point we could do a better job in terms ofep encouraging women and said that the avenues are open now. they have different ways that people can make the complaints. but there is a lot of tumult going on at nbc now. >> tucker: so to be be clear, the news chief as you said is one of the people who quelched the farrow piece on harvey weinstein. is it his contention that none of the executives had any idea it was going on ever until two days ago? >> you have to read the statement carefully, tucker. the statement says we never got a complaint until monday. so nobody filed a complaint. take him at his word on that. but again the issue is maybe there weren't complaints but were there rumbles? when you see what we just saw with him on the set with meredith, that is done in

front of a lot of people including the crew on the set, the people in the control room. and then katie on andy cohen's show. at a point did nobody hear any of this stuff? >> tucker: that is the question. i hope we get an answer. harvey, thank you. >> sure, tucker. >> tucker: lauer's surprising firing adds a gallon of irons on an aggressive interview he conducted with bill o'reilly on this channel. >> over the last six months since your firing has you done some soul searching? have you done self-reflection? and have you looked at the way you treated women that you think now, or think about differently now than you did at the time? >> tammy bruce is a radio show host. and joining us now since you cover tv, watching the clip from today.

the shock on the faces of the two anchors who i think are sincere people by the way. it seemed real. on the other hand, isn't nbc's credibility on these things devalued by the fact that they held and prevented the airing of the harvey weinstein piece? >> that is something we have to go back to here. you believe they "vanity fair" reporters who say they have been working on the story for months or we believe nbc they got a complaint for the first time. it's hard to believe. >> tucker: so "vanity fair" said they worked on the piece for months and they reached out to nbc working on the piece. >> sure. we need confirmation or comment.t. we are hearing this or that. i heard on monday in earnest of the story that there was an investigation going on. i was trying to dig into it and suddenly this broke. clearly the "times" and "vanity fair" had the goods because you see the stories now. you have to go back to the piece in october that was

squelched. he had the good. he had audio tape of an nypd sting operation and witness testimony. testimony from women thatst wanted to come forward. they said sorry, you don't have enough.o went to the "new yorker" and that led to the cascade of the after name and media entertainment, politics. it doesn't matter. every day. today alone three accusations. lauer, you had garrison keillor from nbr, and davis a senior producer at cnn. it doesn't matter what network or radio station or industry. this is going to be something, this is the story for the weeks and months to come. >> tucker: it makes it different when it's a media figure, though. media outlets by definition need to have some level of transparency because you need to trust them in a way you don't need to trust the people who make wheat thins. n you have to believe they are not lying to you. do we believe they are not lying to us? >> obviously not. this is something that the president has been able to bring up clearly. this notion of whether or not people are telling you thepe

truth. people they happen to be on tv is that enough for you to believe them? now of course that is breaking. what i can tell you also about the "today" show and i feel sorry for savannah guthrie but the senior producer of theee program was fired earlier this month for inappropriate behavior. >> senior booker. >> they say here from fox, the closest producer, the senior vice president matt zimmerman was fired earlier this month. so we know that may be systemic. not just mr. lauer. but you also have to note that when you are looking at the nature of this kind of systemic dynamic, it is going to be a number of people. this is where andy look comes in. a very close personal friend with matt lauer. the questions why he was protecting him so much, how far they thought it should go. and that "variety" was doingng also a report for weeks. so this is not necessarily a quick reaction or one that, you know, my gosh, we are n horrified. this was coming down the pike.e

and maybe they saw that with mr. zimmerman taking it that way. and wondering if no one else at the "today show" if miss guthrie was not informed about the nature of what was happening. but more will clearly come out. it will be difficult for the network and i think for mr. look as well. >> interesting, juanita broader tweeted andy look fired matt lauer today. why is andy look still at nbc? his actions delaying my interview until after the impeachment hearing of bill clinton is disgraceful. it was 1999 and the rain allegations -- rape allegations against the sitting president and it got spiked. >> if anyone will know, leadership, especially with a with the individuals and that kind of approach is going to infect the environment. a number of people listening to my radio show know, you know, is this, does this mean if you are creative you are a predator? is no one good to host show or make movies?

the fact is this is like the mafia. very few people are awful have decided to close themselves off like they have done withth the conservatives. individuals as well. h making it a real controlled environment for themselves only.ol a lot of talent out there. people who perhaps have not those men decided they were too much of a threat and wouldn't put up with this. so this is not a statement about every creative man or every person involved in film or television or news. this is what we have allow and what they controlled for a period of time. >> tucker: this is about powerful people misusing the power. i want to get to the management part of p it. partly because there is a lot we don't know. why don't we know it >> tucker: why wouldn't someone in andy look's position or noah onen halftime sit down with a reporter, maybe even from nbc but answer l straightforward questions? i don't understand what is the excuse not to do that? >> we asked the question after the harvey weinstein story was t spiked and we haven't heard from onen halftime or look -- oppenhim or lack. i want to complement melissa

>> i want to compliment melissa francis because in april what she said, and boy, was this prophetic. as i watch other networks or another are predators throwing stones at us, i kind of sit there and wait for their time to come. remember she worked at nbc also. cnbc. because the other managers and the other networks know who they are and the talent and the people working their know, too. the more people who hear from other people stories and feel empowered to say something the better.e >> tucker: i spent four years there and i had that thought virtually every day as i watched people who probably shouldn't be throwing stones cast them. i can't control myself. how would you fill if you are billy bush tonight fired from nbc for the crime of standing next to donald trump when he said something vulgar?ht >> this is why i think there is a lot of people who are genuinely surprised. even like al franken in congress. when you see an environment

and you know the environment is what you have been doing or people are worse than you and you are the one who becomes the fall guy, and al franken saying i didn't think i was doing anything wrong because it's the standard of what they were doing. suddenly if the rules change, it could be difficult for billy and others getting fired. >> tucker: he didn't do anything wrong. >> isn't it amazing that the media those who are accused lost their jobs. in politics those who are accused are still in office. >> we are working on that. >> tucker: thank you. president trump looks like he was back on the campaign trail today in the state of missouri.he we will show you highlights from his speech and tell you what he said next. this is what it's all about, jamie --

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we know that claim is bogus. they knew what they were doing and so do countless other politicians and business politicians and business if the americans won't accept bottom of the barrel wages they can replace them with the workers that will. that is the scam. weird the media is defending them. president trump was in missouri today and delivered a speech that sounded almost exactly like the campaign speeches more than a year ago. fox chief national correspondent ed henry was there. got more on the president's speech. hey, ed. >> tucker, good to see you. a trump tour de force. you can see as you suggest he feeds off the energy of the crowd when he gets back on thede road. it's interesting because it was supposed to be a speech on g tax cuts. but instead he careened from talking about little rocket man in north korea to the war on christmas. but at the end of the day it might have actually worked. because the president got good news tonight that his tax cuts are moving forward in the senate. after this pitch. >> president trump: i told you that we would be saying,

"merry christmas" again, right? but we have got to start focusing on our country. that is why i'm saying america first. make america great again. you never heard that express. all those hats. all those, they never heard that express before. that was a good express. it's a true expression. it's happening ahead ofxp schedule. the massive tax cuts will be rocket fuel.ng hmm. little rocket man. rocket fuel for the american economy. he is a sick puppy. we are going to have very strong borders. please remember that, okay? please remember. [applause] we are going to have the wall. don't worry about it. we are going to have the wall. we don't forget that wall.

a lot of people say now that he got elected is he going to build the wall? the answer is absolutely. more so. o i think more so. it's not easy dealing with the democrats. they want to have people bore in our country illegals. they don't care where the hell they come from. they want to have them pour in our country. they want to raise your taxes. they don't want to take care of your military. all they're good at frankly is obstructing. we must start totally winning and winning and winning again. remember when i used to say we are going to win so much, we are going to win that the people of missouri are going to go to your governor and say governor, please go see the president. we can't stand winning so much. do you remember i used to say? right? w i used to say it. that is what is happening. >> tucker: in fact the president's critics have been poking him on the fact he made that boast on the campaign. >> that people will get tired of all the winning.

in fact it has been a lean year for republicans in terms of major legislative victories. they run the house, senate and the white house. but tonight big news for the president after that pitch. they have a debate in the senate. follow this. debate on a motion to proceed to the debate. they won. it is looking like the president has the votes to get it past. >> tucker: really, well, that is news. thank you, ed. >> good to see you. >> tucker: north of the >> tucker: north of the inclusiveness, the canadian teachers are forced to learn specific awareness and i bet you don't know what that is. i'll tell you next. forced to ln specific awareness and i beto ln you don't know what that is. it's date night and... ugh... nothing fits. you're just bloated from gas.

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>> tucker: remember the massacre in las vegas at the beginning of last month? you can be forgiven if you don't. the deadliest shooting in modern american history but a lot of the press shrugged and moved on. we still don't know why it happened and the key details >> tucker: remember the massacre in las vegas at the beginning of last month? you can be forgiven if you don't. the deadliest shooting in modern american history but a lot of the press shrugged and moved on. we still don't know why it happened and the key details and it's getting weirder by the day. yesterday in reno a gunman was killed by police after he opened fire from the eighth in particular of a high-rise condominium building, eerily similar to what happened in vegas. but get this. vegas shooter stephen paddock once owned a condo in the name

building. they don't know if it's a copycat attack or the significance if any. edgnificance if any. there are a lot of questionsey in this case. too many. so next tuesday we are taking the show to las vegas to investigate and try to get answers. don't miss that. well, the tolerance police have a lot of power in america if you haven't noticed but they are stronger in canada. just yesterday a canadian prime minister justin trudeau delivered apology for the past state discrimination against them. now teachers in durham, ontario, had to attend an inclusiveness training course for the lggbdtttiqqaapp community. which is apparently a community that 15-letter acronym to encompass all sexual minorities may be required soon at schools. stephen la drew the former president of the canada liberal party. thank you for coming on. what does it mean specifically?

>> generally shortened to the lgbtq, the community. there will extra ones they added in there. no one goes by that. maybe that is to teach kids the alphabet. but it's referred to, referred to it yesterday as lgbtq. some people don't know what it means. they know it means inclusiveness, it's a good thing. it's a question of tolerance. k >> tucker: of course. but i guess what my interest is the addition of the new letters each representing a new category. i'm not against it. i'm confused by it. i want to know what it means. do you know what the acronym stands for? >> what is the problem with it? >> tucker: i'm not saying -- i'm not saying there is a problem with it. i'm just asking what it is. because defining the terms is the first step to understanding them. and then accepting them. so what it is? >> well, i mean you have got it in front of you.so you have me at a disadvantage.

to be candid with you as i said, everybody in canada knows what lgbtq on the end means. the long one frankly, until your producer showed it to me i haven't seened it. i looked at it. you have the definitions through there. >> tucker: okay. why do you think it's a good thing if you don't know what it is? y >> what is the matter with it?in >> tucker: i don't know. look you could hand me a box and say there is something great inside i'd be what is it? i don't pronounce things great until they know what they are. you don't have that problem. i'll get specific with you. this is meaningful because teachers are thought this, the kids will be taught it. i think i have a right to nonjudgmentally ask what they are talking about.ea what is two spirit? >> it sounds like someone that they don't know if they are fish or fowl, frick or frac. they are confused. if you are confused what better place to go than to be at school? all those categories, i'll bet you all the categories in the

long litany that you laid out there i bet you no one but maybe five people in all of canada could lay out what they are. if someone feels that they are a better person, that they are more included in society or someone else in society and teachers who understand them or want to understand that,ho that is what canada is about. >> tucker: hold on. i'm sorry. i'm for people feeling included. i'm against meanness and i'm i'm against meanness and i'm for politeness. but i believe in the right to ask simple questions and get direct answers. so if you are teaching kids about a group, i think it's fair to define what it is. you don't know but you are willing to say well, it's just, it's great. i'm baffled by that because maybe it's not great. maybe we should find out what it is before we say that? or is everything teachers think of is good by definition. >> i'm not saying that everything teacher groups think up is good. they have had different things before.

they had a measure last summer and it's no school can be called george washington school. get rid of the first prime minister of canada. so they aren't always on par. but on this one to be candid as i said at the outset i don't know what all of those mean. t >> tucker: that is the point. we all mindlessly go along. we are all bullied and afraid to ask honest questions like what is this? what bothers me is we don't know who makes up the categories. there are 15 different groups m in this acronym. did anyone poll them and ask do you want to be included? do the asexuals want to be with the pansexuals? b nobody asked and it's imposed on the rest of us. >> everybody wants to be included. that cease what this is about. they want to be included in a social contract. no one i'm sure went out and

polled people and said out of the thousand people if you are that fifth category in that long line of the, the long litany of the names you have, right. no one is going to be polled on this thing. but it sounds to me that you are taking an issue with some teacher saying let's try to bring it together. >> tucker: you are totally missing it. i'm for bringing people together. >>ck great. >> tucker: there is something inherently divisive about making up an "community" without asking anybody in the community if they constitute a community. why would -- did anyone even ask, like who made this up? who is making these rules?as we have to abide by them so it seems fair to ask where did it come from?em >> it's not a rule. what you are reading is something that was created by teachers who said let's bring the groups in. we have the names. i'm sure there is no poll on it. in the states everybody is run by polls but we don't do that in canada. >> tucker: you don't care what the people think in canada. you don't do polls in canada because you don't care what your population thinks? your population thinks? >> we don't run everything by polls.

>> tucker: impose it on a passive population? what point are you making? >> are you picking on the prime minister? >> tucker: i'm not picking on -- i'm pro canada. i came to ask simple questions as we do in this country hoping i would get a straightforward answer. not finding one.>> pressing forward more gently, i politely and getting nothing. >> i am somewhere if you feel i'm -- sorry if you feel i give you nothing because i'm giving you the honest truth. most people in canada don't know if canada and would say if there are ten people in the county where the group was meeting that is a good thing. bring them in. if they are saying they have some sexual change or some sexual option that i don't know about, well, let's all talk about it. that is what that is for the media. ini have face for everybody to come -- invitation for everybody to come in. >> tucker: what bothers me -- look, this is taking place in canada so it doesn't affect me or most of the viewers directly. int i wonder because free speech is not guaranteed in

your country and people are in prison for saying unpopular things there. >> i don't think so. >> tucker: well, you are wrong. they are. what would happen to somebody>> who said i don't want, i'm not interested in playing along with this. i don't know what it is. you don't know what this is. leave me alone.t,re teach my kids to read and do math. that person would be dismissed as insensitive, bigoted or worse? >> no. we b are not judgmental like that. you are saying from the american point of view they would be dismissed as bigoted but in canada they wouldn't be. they would say fine. you have an opinion. others have a different opinion. >> tucker: if only that were true. that is a country i want to live in where we can disagree, we don't call each other names and we agree to disagree. that is not the country you live in and increasingly it's not the country i live in. >> it is the country we live in canada. there is a big difference between the united states and canada. that is one of the differences. i asked you tucker to tell me who is in prison in canada for saying something wrong? we have --

>> tucker: people are prosecuted for hate crimes in canada for expressing things that are unpopular.uc that is canadian law. marc stein got sued over this. >> no. you know what? >> factual dispute that you are in the wrong. that is another show. i hope you will come back and we'll talk about it in some detail but in the meantime, thank you. liberals say they run the floor. of course they do. liberals run every major cities in the country but is there a connection with the people living in the tents on the the streets of the city you live in? we talk to an expert next.

>> tucker: superficially >> tucker: superficially america's major cities are richer than ever. many luxury apartments going up, many selling to foreigners. many restaurants and the arrest advertisal shops and they love -- artisinal shops love the big city.

while they have become a playground for the wealthy and their children they are not looking as good for everyone else. san francisco, new york, other cities losing middle class residents. poverty rates remain high. homelessness declining nationwide is hitting recordai levels in the big city. you know that there are tent cities everywhere. liberals dominate every major city. is homelessness and the disappearance of the middle class connected to the social policies? the author of the human city, urbanism for the rest of us has looked at the question carefully and he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: the obvious man of the station of this that you have been writing about is homelessness that reached the levels in some cities not seen since the great depression. and it's really obvious. people don't talk about it for some reason. what is causing it? >> i think there are a lot of reasons. some of them have been here for a long time. mental illness. alcoholics and the drug addiction.

the new spin, you see this in all sorts of place, as unlikely as in orange county california. the increase of rents and thes housing prices as well. but people are spending in many places say in southern california, 50 to 50% of the income going to rent. if you are making $3,000 a month and your rent is $2,500, you can see why people end up being homeless. >> tucker: that is right. the economic structure of the big cities, liberal big cities is getting to almost latin american levels of the inequality. a small number of the people live in conspicuous opulence and then you have poor people and you don't have anybody in the middle. is this a new thing? >> well, i think we have always had some of that but it has gotten much worse. america's big cities i think

of my own grand parents coming from russia. they were really about the opportunity and making your life better.om old liberal policies, somehow out of the mold how do we create more housing and the good middle class jobs? that isn't the interest of thess mostsy planners today or the people who run the cities. what they want is elite industries and high culture. t they want fantasy building for the foreigners and they are not concerned about maintaining a middle class.. middle class is not going to go along the lines that let's say a progressive politician might want to go in the current circumstance. >> tucker: i have been to san francisco, los angeles, new york in the space of the last ten days. each of those cities has tent cities within it of thousands of people living outside.

yet the city councils seem focused on global warming for example. i don't understand why a city can have thousands of people living outside on the street and not address it, not make it priority number one. >> i think they are going to try to address it. but it certainly, i think the more important in a sense underlying issue is we are not creating good middle class jobs for people. in the state of california where i live our climate change policies are chasing out the industry that gave people a decent way of making a living. w i don't understand where the old progress ifs a and the in progressives are not at all interested to help the working class families be self-supporting. they may be in favor of subsidiaries or the artificialor keeping wages artificially high with the high minimumid wages but are they interested

in people advancing, doing better? in some cases maybe they don't. maybe who do better emit more greenhouse gases. >> tucker: so they hate them and it's obvious and really sad. joel, thank you for coming on tonight. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: is the backlash against sexual harassment turning into a broader crusade against men? we will talk to a woman who says yes. that that is part of what is going on. stay tuned. what is going on. what is

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>> tucker: the past six weeks or so, sexual harassment >> tucker: the past six weeks or so, sexual harassment charges have taken down harvey weinstein, kevin spacey and now matt lauer. it all peels like a cultural watershed as millions of women joined in by hosting or tweeting #metoo.

sexual harassment seems everywhere. it is a problem. is it just that we are recognizing it for the first time or is something else going on? could there be a moral is underway? we have a recent piece for the new york daily news warned theal me too phenomenon will mutate to the vilifycation of all men everywhere.ce she joins us. thank you for coming on. >> great to be here. >> i assume you know that cases like harvey weinstein, appall you. you said that. you are saying that this may more of into something different. >> had to be careful. men and women are reading the social contract. it is a time we can bring the workplace up to the 21st century. i have seen signs of as you

said a panic around the sexuality and particularly to vilify all men. some are predators but it doesn't follow logic that all men are. >> tucker: what would be the motive behind -- the conversation is ludicrous because a person commits a crime does mean all people who look like that person are committing the same crime obviously.n what do you think driving claims that all men are to blame? >> well, we have in our universities some hardline gender activists. i consider myself a feminist. this is not true of all feminists but there is a school of feminism that is very adverse to masculinity. it sees it as intrinsically pathological and toxic. >> tucker: right. >> in the academy there are a lot of exaggerated statistics

about male, you know, carrying on with the series about the masculinity. and i have seen activists, roxane gay wrote in the "new york times" that calling for all men to come forth and admit to their sins against women great and small. all men? not all men. the majority of the men of good will will join with women and address the problem. i draw the line at male bashing and carrying on. there was a professor on npre that thought the only solution to the harassment problem is to radically transform the way we raise boys. and she had the very extravagant theories about changing how resource socializing little boys. a again, this is an overreaction. >> tucker: well, i wonder, though, if it even makes sense

as a theory. is the idea that american men have gotten a lot more and gotten a lot more this is an outgrowth of that?ha does anybody argue that? that seems the implication but it seems crazy. >> any theory that is going to target half the human race is bound to fail. but this is what we see. it's very common in the university to treat men as almost the enemy. again, this is not typical of feminism everywhere but in the academy this is being taught. i now see the professors coming forth. the theories are in the air. i have seen a willingness to sacrifice innocent people. when we remind people of the importance of the presumption of innocence and being careful about false accusation, there have been some activists who said who cares if someone innocent people go down? >> tucker: yeah. we interviewed them.

>> so that worries me. it will harm a good cause. because if we not allow, you know, various groups with strange agendas to hijack the issue we can address it. >> tucker: i hope that happens. thank you for that. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: elizabeth warrenr:r: doesn't just steal cultural identities but also recipes. up next, we will talk about the books she contributed to. not making this up. "powwow chow." more on that ahead. "powwow chow." more on that ahead "powwow chow." it's ok that everyone ignores me while i drive. "powwow chow." more on that ahead it's fine. because i get a safe driving bonus check every six months i'm accident free. and i don't share it with mom!

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1984 warren contributed recipes to the powwow chow.. by this point you should not be totally surprised to hear that her contributions cold omelets with crab meat and crab meat and tomato dressing were plagiarized. literally. this story just keeps on giving. it's an endless christmas. howie carr boston radio show host joins us. not only did she steal the identity of a native american but she sold recipes from the french?at >> she did, tucker. when this first became a controversy when she was for the senate inen 2012. she listed as credentials b she contradicted these cookbook of her cousin powwow chow. i thought that's interesting. i will get the cookbook ando see what's in it. you can still get it for 28 bucks on amazon. the one that caught my eye was cold crab omelet didn't

sound like something that would be available the ingredients on the trail of tears. i went to google and i punched in cold crab omelet and the first couple of words of the recipe what popped out 1977 recipe from the "new york times" by the famous french chef and food columnist pierre frenais who was a chef at fabulously expensive midtown french restaurant in manhattan. and it turns out she claims this was like a family recipe that had been handed down through the generations of her cherokee family and pierre frenai said it was one of the favorites of the duke and duchess of windsor, the former king of england and porter the song writer. this cherokee recipe that she claimed as her own. and mark steyn made a joke about it later on. he said of course it was one

of porter's favorite injanuary dishes cold crab omelet he wrote the famous song something about sue. i've got sue under my skin. >> tucker: the layers of phoniness are so thick that it's hard to believe this is real. has she ever been asked about this? >> no, the only time we ever got a comment from her was we tried to -- i sent outom one of my guys and i justt handed her -- my guy handed her a book. and she didn't even look at the book and she autographed it and she realized it was powwow chow. what she had done, tucker,ed taken the cap off the pen like this.ad we got back to the studioo and i said, you know, this pen, this pen could have the d.n.a. on it. >> tucker: we should in to ancestry.com. >> we did.

>> tucker: you did? and what happened? >> unfortunately there wasn't enough d.n.a. >> tucker: we are out of time. howie carr, thank you sean hannity right now. >> sean: thanks, tucker. a major morning news shakeup at nbc. long-time anchor matt laura is abruptly fired over a allegation of sexual misconduct. "times" out with multiple reports where multiple women o are accusing lauer of misconduct. former npr radio host garrison keillor, prairie home companion and his relationship with minnesota public radio is now terminated for accusations of inappropriate behavior. these are just the latest misconduct claims that are rocking the liberal media and the political establishment. and also tonight, a brand new scandal swirling around one of the most prominent democrats inca