market has it bounced back. it it tanked about 150 points when we got that report. he may implicates what was implied there. i see two things are going on in the market chatter. number one, traders are doubting that report. they are rethinking it. the second thing is they are talking about tax reform, and the idea that they now feel like they are not enough votes there. and that is why we are seeing this rebound. >> jon: it thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" starts now. >> the presence form a national security advisor pleading guilty today to lying to the fbi. he lied about his communications with russia's ambassador. and now, he is admitting and courted to lying to federal agents about that contact. this is "outnumbered." harris faulkner, lisa boothe, commentator and fox news

contributor rachel campos duffy, and at today's #oneluckyguy, bill hemmer is here, and he is outnumbered. >> bill: thank you, ladies for having me. >> sandra: we have an update. they are, we want to get straight it to you. anything at changing at this moment? >> good afternoon, i am glad to see that someone is working besides you and bill this morning. we do have a statement from the president's attorney on the russian investigation who is working inside of the white house counsel's office. outside counsel as well. he is working inside the white house. just a short time ago he said "it today, michael flynn, former national security advisor, and a former obama administration, made a false statement to the fbi. he goes on to say it -- you can put that screen back up -- the

statements involved in mirror the false statements to the white house officials, resulting in his resignation in february of this year. nothing about the guilty plea or the charge implicates anyone other than mr. flynn. the conclusion demonstrates again that it was moving with all of the speed and for regional conclusion. so he is basically saying there is nothing here for the white house to worry about, but there is that one a phrase in the statement, where he says nothing about this implicates anyone other than mr. flynn. what we do know that flynn has agreed it to cooperate. he will testify against anybody that's the special counsel may want him to. and that could include the president, his lieutenants, it could include members of his family. but then there is also the information in the plea agreement that flynn was in contact with senior transition officials at mar-a-lago on the

29th of december about having conversations with sergey kislyak. the information says that flynn found it to a senior transition official at mar-a-lago to say i am going to talk to sergey kislyak, should i talk to him about sanctions? flynn got off of that phone call, made the phone call to sergey kislyak, and then what had been said it during that conversation? now, we know, if we are to take the president at his word, from a press conference, that it was not the president who told flynn to contact the russians because the president said no, it was not me who told them to do that, but he was doing his job, and had i thought about it, i would have told him to do it. now again, we are taking him at his word, but who was it from the transition, if not the president, that flynn was talking to? and that would mean that someone else knew exactly what flynn had a talk to to sergey kislyak

about before he alighted to the vice president. so to me, what we have seen so far in this plea agreement, that is a very key issue that we need to get more clarity on. and we will be asking the president, who has got an oval office meeting with one of the leaders from libya coming up. obviously we will be in contact with white house officials throughout the day. but, that to me is the key part of this plea agreements that opens up a whole lot of other questions. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: he is the fourth person charged with at the smaller investigation, what can this or what does this tell us about that investigation going forward? >> the fact that none of these charges actually related to to collusion, we have statements about making false statements, indictments about business dealings, but so far, there is nothing in here about somebody

colluding with the russians to influence the outcome of the election. and other than making false statements to the fbi, there is no indication that anything that flynn has done even borders on illegality. it talking with the russian government when you are the transition team taking over the administration is not an illegal offense. it is something that you would expect that the transition would do, making contacts with the foreign government. if you are acting as a sort of a parallel government, trying to influence the russians into doing something while the obama administration is still in power, that could be seen to be at the very least, bad form, and may go beyond that. but there is no suggestion in any of the so far that flynn did anything illegal, other than a lying to investigators. sandra. >> sandra: important to make the distinction. i'm sure we will see you again in a bench. >> you bet. >> harris: catherine herridge was the first to alert us to a

key section of what we learn to today. and that's is that the senior member transition team had a direct contact with russia, according to this, let's bring her on board. what is the significance of this, and what is on the record? >> okay, so, harris, i was in the courtroom, when it makes linda pled guilty to lying to the fbi, and part of that is a long process, where the judge makes sure that flynn really understands the constitutional rights that he is waving by pleading guilty. and in that process, a member of the government, the prosecution team aside, and it is now and some of the records that have been released by the court, it states very specifically that on

december 22nd, so in the heart of this flynn record, has to do with these days it before and after christmas after the election. he says a very senior member of the transition team directed flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including russia. and this had to do with the u.n. vote, and how those countries would vote at the u.n., related to the middle east. so, the question is who is this very senior official? as john roberts just aside, there are only a handful of people who fit into that category. i would just connect a couple of points here. what we have learned here in the last few days was that jared kushner was interviewed by the special counsel in november about it two or three weeks ago. so, you can see that the special counsel has been pulling together people to help build the body of evidence against mike flynn. just a couple of other things, if i could. when you look at these records, and it talks about the degree to which mike flynn is going to cooperate, it says here he will do so fully and on whatever

basis the special counsel requires. earlier, i spoke with someone who is very close to flynn who said to me "he entered into this agreement for a handful of reasons. he was broken financially, he was broken emotionally, and his family could not face another 2-3 years under the lever of the government and the russian investigation." and it just because he has made a plea agreement today, pled guilty, doesn't mean that he is off the hook with a special counsel. in many ways, because he has already admitted it to a lying, he is under additional scrutiny about the quality and fidelity of the statements that he makes in the future, and the records are very clear that he cannot refuse to cooperate without facg a penalty. what is typical in these cases is that the deal is off the table. >> harris: bill, i know you have been covering this all morning long. each hour, we get so much information with what catherine just gave us, you may have a

question for her. i am curious to know, catherine, if you are still with us, how this may impact to the lucknow of those senior aides in the transition to trump. bill, did you have anything to add? >> bill: to boil it down, i think that's what the white house would argue today is that all of this happened postelection. democrats who have been very critical of this white house, prior to the transition process, they are going to argue you are a long way from getting to a final conclusion. and i think at the moment, that is kind of where we are right now. >> when you look at the records that were released by the government, and what you heard in the courthouse behind me, it is clear that michael flynn was playing a role, as a go-between, sort of operating between this sort of sweet spot with the incoming administration and spent also the foreign governments, and specifically

cited here, his contact with the russian investor. one of the central complaints of the obama administration, which does appear in the records today is that there could only be one administration at a time, only one administration at a time, and this really goes to their arguments that the president's team was really moving very quickly to embrace their new responsibilities. it's may have gone over, becausn team at tamara largo over the christmas break it, this is not a single phone call. this is reporting back and forth. here's what we have got, i have spoken with the russians, this is what we are taking back to them. so this is a very active back and forth the process. it was not a one off. so when you look at the issue of collusion, it becomes a question whether the glass is half-full or half-empty? is this a kind of coordination with the russians that is out of character for an incoming administration?

or is it completely in character, which is what president trump's team has maintained so far. >> harris: we had on alan dershowitz yesterday. one of the things that he said was that we need to get ready for some sort of deal to come from a mike flynn. he was aware of his financial situation. being reported that he was looking perhaps to sell his house very quickly because he is out of cash. >> that is confirmed. that is confirmed. >> harris: but what he is saying is that he would put him out there to be able to point to different things, and what i hear you saying, catherine, is that the fbi is going to watch even closer now to be sure that whatever he offers up is absolutely the truth. >> look at, flynn has made this deal, and i spoke with someone close to flynn after the hearing this morning, and you can't seet this as putting you in a position of strength. it is a weakness, in the sense that you must fully cooperate

and provide information to the government that they request because they always have the lever to break the deal, cut the deal, or they have the lever of one it comes to sentencing, to what degree does your level of cooperation mitigate how much time you will spend in jail? or how much money you will have to pay in federal funds. so, you know, this is not a day where he is off the hook. this is a day where he has gone down a path where he is under further pressure and further scrutiny, and he must fully cooperate, and he must do so in a full, accurate way, and to the best of his ability. so, this will take you to not only paperwork because that is what it says in these records, but also to individuals as well. if you want to thank you for your excellent reporting on that. i am sure that we will hear a lot from you. bill hemmer, i want to ask you, moving from what this means for the investigation, michael flynn, what does this mean for

donald trump and the white hous white house? >> bill: great question, i am not a lawyer. i don't think anyone here is. he is suggesting that this is a very isolated matter. i think what's catherine reports on what michael flynn has gone through for the past 11 months, one could argue, is that i think the prosecutor would take this evidence and say we flipped it. and we will see what the white house has to say about that later today, but if you are building a case from a prosecutor standpoint, this is where you sack things above. where it goes? i've got no idea. and none of us do. >> rachel: what confuses me is it is not a crime to speak with the russians. it is a crime to lie to the fbi that you spoke to the russians, and it is still not clear to me how unusual it is to have these conversations with foreign governments, which i think happens all the time. and the other thing i would point out is the only crime we

actually do you know of is the unmasking of a flynn, which was a crime. >> bill: it now, we know that's lying to the fbi -- gump >> harris: i would've just asked does. were talking before. when we say met with russians, that is one thing, and these sanctions that we were trying to put forth with regard to russia. and then there was talk about policy with regard to israel. four things that he has reportedly lied about that he has said i am guilty of that. and so i would want to know legally the texture of those things. >> lisa: john roberts and catherine harris sort of touched on this. we are sort of questioning the same thing. in the sense of clearly we know that transition seems talk to foreign governments. so what were those conversations? and were any laws broken in those conversations. catherine had mentioned you know, depending on how you look at it, obviously, democrats will

look at it on the collusion front, but i think we're going to learn a lot more about the nature of those conversations in the coming days. that is what i am interested in learning more about because we know that transition teams do have these conversations with foreign governments, and actually, it is something that every transition team does. and another issue here as well, he is in the statement, flynn said this is the best thing for my family. we know that his son was also caught up in the south wall, so i wonder what scrutiny is being placed on his son, and if that was part of the reason as well that he came around and wanting to work with robert miller. >> bill: every time we have a transition of power, when one administration replaces another, they want to have better relations with russia. the time and again, i don't think that the trump team is any different. and i know that he once to the west wing. and part of his strategy was to build a better relationship with moscow.

and that was his strategy. that was it stated on record in the west wing last january. >> harris: so why did he lie about those meetings? >> bill: you will have to ask him. >> harris: so, what you are saying -- those are the facts, but he also admits lying. >> bill: what i am arguing is that this is part of the trump a policy to a relationship with moscow. >> lisa: how much credibility does flynn have? he has lied about everything. >> harris: put him on the sand, and one side will say this is a guy who can't tell the truth about anything. and they will say he tells the truth about some things. >> lisa: so, considering the fact that he is not a very credible source, -- >> harris: i think the goal is to squeeze him just like they did paul manafort. and they do this and just apply

pressure. and then come of this investigation spends all sort of money and can go in any direction at once, as it applies pressure. >> lisa: and we know from the reporting that he did speak to some high-level person within the trump transition team appeared we don't know who that person is, and if that person has a testified that they did or didn't order flynn to have these conversations. there is that angle. i wouldn't just say, taking the legal stuff aside, politically, what do you see happening is the democrats are really hoping that this is going to bring it back in his or agenda. bring back more of russia. >> bill: we don't know about that. >> rachel: i don't think it will. >> bill: we can't say that to today's movement continued it. >> sandra: we are going to get some real legal analysis here in just a minute. but i just wanted to get this in here. jeff like it to now vote yes on tax reform? this is unbelievable.

so let's get to judge napolitan judge napolitano. i promise that we will get to taxes as well. this is a huge day. get in here. we need you to tell us what is going on. what do you make of the latest with this? >> well, i think this is probably in the tip of the iceberg it, so to speak. it is a nightmare for donald trump. because michael flynn was his constant companion on national security matters. so, from february of 2017, the downside for the government is that whatever testimony general flynn provides is coming out of the mouth of someone the government itself has acknowledged is not worthy. he hasn't pleaded guilty of lying to the fbi. the downside for the president is, this keeps the russian thing, the russian story front and center at a time when the

president is beginning to move towards the achievements of his legislative agenda. >> harris: that is a very good point. >> general flynn a probably will be undergoing the process of being a debrief by fbi agents, and in a painstakingly detailed way in the next couple of weeks. they are looking for evidence that leads to other evidence. by that, i mean they are looking for human beings can testify so that general flynn doesn't have to testify. >> harris: exactly. he has been proven not to tell the truth. >> exactly. that is probably the rule that they seek for him. >> harris: we want to get to lisa boothe in here because she has a quick question for you. >> lisa: hi, question for you. we know that a transition teams talk to foreign governments, so why do these conversations -- why do they matter, and what is

the issue with the conversations that he allegedly had? >> that is a great question. the conversations that general flynn had while he was part of the transition team, our far less than anything he had during the campaign. at the time of this transition team, one would expect that to the trump foreign policy and national security policy would begin to dip their toes in the water, so to speak. particularly after the president is inaugurated. before there is a new secretary of state. so what happened during the transition, unless it is a cover-up, of what happened during the campaign, far less problematic for the president today then watch may have happened during the campaign. the portion of the plea agreement that i wonder about to go to the conversations during the transition period. soon we are going to leave it there, judge andrew napolitano. thank you for getting on the

phone and weighing in. whether republicans have enough it to pass up tax reform appeared to jeff flake is now a "yes" ." okay, so we have a lot going on on this busy friday afternoon. we are going to get to that story on the other side of the break. we will be her back. the morning walk was so peaceful. until... it... wasn't. don't let type 2 diabetes get between you and your heart. even if you reach your a1c goal you are still at risk for heart attack or stroke. talk to your health care provider today about diabetic heart disease. and find out more at heartoftype2.com.

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>> sandra: fox news alert, mitch mcconnell telling the ap that we have the vote to pass tax reform appeared we are waiting for votes in the senate,

expected to come at any time. after some last-minute drama nearly derailed that bill yesterday. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. there is nothing going on there, huh, make it? >> everyone i have spoken with says that the two wild cards in terms of senators were bob corker of tennessee and adjust the flake of arizona. flake is now a "yes." he says that he got the leadership to get rid of what he considered a budgeting democrat, and he got a commitment from the senate leadership to work on a dock daca six. ron johnson it tweeted that he would be voting yes. willingness to fix some things. there is a lot of work to reconcile house bills, and i have been assured a seat at the table during those

investigations. in other confirmed that he was a "yes" first thing this morning on "fox & friends." >> the outcome is going to be for american businesses to win. it will raise wages. so, this tax plan is going to put more dollars directly in the pockets of hardworking american americans. but it is going to increase wages. >> at this stage, we expect action on the senate floor, voting on a variety of amendments, which they call around here a vote-a-rama. they say that the sun is senate democratic -- >> the facts that we receive the dynamic only a date before the final vote on the bill shows just how foolhardy it is to rush a bill like this through. speak out the latest i am getting from q sources is that

they expect a vote later today, and they plan to finish up a tax reform tonight. we will see exactly one. sandra appeared to >> sandra: 's all right, thank you. and to the bottom of the announcement that he is in support of this now, having secured both of those objectives. he laid out exactly what he was asking for. pleased to announce that they will vote. >> bill: do we think it is a good bill? >> sandra: it do we know? >> bill: we will not to know for some time. i think that is the arguments that we can have. >> rachel: this could move quicker than we think. it is possible that if they fix the state and local tax issue, which they are on the to doing that, what could happen is the senate passes the bill, and to the house accepts it. and that could move things much more quickly because believe me, the senator doesn't want to go back and wrangle all of these

votes again. so that is very interesting to me. >> bill: there is a lot of hope it built into this bill. they intend for the corporate taxes to be reintroduced into american investment. will it happen? i don't know. on the individual side, just being home last week in ohio, talking to a lot of family and friends, every single one of them -- what do you think of the tax bill? so if you could tell me what is in it for them up. i believe there is a problem there. >> rachel: won the bill is passed, then they have the job to go sell it to the people that you are talking about. they sell it to voters in the midterm election, explained to them how this bill will benefit their lives. >> lisa: that is not always the easy part. >> bill: small businesses will tell you -- go budget for the average american. >> harris: one name comes to

mind when you talk about to thi this. nancy pelosi. >> rachel: that's right. >> harris: and the republicans don't want to go down that road. they have been talking enough about what was in the house and the senate, and the difference is for us to at least gets a flavor of that. we won't to know a of what went into this a. if >> rachel: but, the president has a lot of credibility. he has been promoting this tax bill. he has deregulated at a speed that has jump-started this economy. i think that's when the president went out and said to the american people, some people called it a rambling speech, i thought it was a very fun speech to walk in this past week, they will say this guy has got the economy better than it has been in a long time. he says this is going to work it, and i think that the people believe that. >> harris: mccain, i watched for rand paul.

and remember from the beginning, the president felt confident that he had his boat. a rand paul was the guy who said if you don't repeal all of it, than i am never going to say yes about obamacare. he was the person who then set i don't know about tax reform. >> bill: then he switched on monday to a "yes," and it seems like so long ago. >> rachel: i want to just break out the popcorn. given the small business to ron johnson, susan collins now has power, asking for deductions. >> harris: bill asks a reasonable question. >> lisa: is it a general tax reform? >> harris: we have to scoot, but it is big for the deficit. that is something else that they will have to talk about. but awfully quiet when i mentioned that. we are monitoring developments into detroit.

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>> harris: on a very busy friday, this fox news alert. we are waiting outside of jon conyers detroit, michigan, home appeared after a string of sexual misconduct allegations popped up on capitol hill against him, when asked if this will be an announcement about his resignation, a spokesperson said it that will be addressed. they are facing a growing pressure to step down over sexual harassment claims. and this is happening as a support for conyers quickly evaporating, as if they are calling for his immediate resignation.

congressman dan, the first for him to call to step down. watch. >> i think i congressman conyers should step down. no person, no matter where they work should take part in the kind of harassment that has been alleged. >> harris: also calling for it conyers it to go our house leaders paul ryan and nancy pelosi, plus minority whip, and meanwhile, the ethics hearing hasn't started a senate hearing into senator al franken of minnesota, after a another woman said that he groped her. they are showing no signs that they are going anywhere. an outcome of the news conference could a change that for conyers. but i'll franken and now has had a 65 members of local active members in minnesota, some of them women, now defending him appear to crickets. >> bill: you know, i think it is bigger than al franken and

jon conyers. it is a question of how our government is going to write its ownership, once it emerges in. bigger than we even understand. and how you can take tax payer dollars and do this is it something that should simply be unacceptable. >> rachel: it is unacceptable, but i think we also need to take into account that it is a $17 million fund, only one of those cases was a sexual harassment case against a member of congress, and that was settled for anything less than $200,000. and they haven't said who that person is. but also note, conyers -- he paid for his out of his mri, which is his budget, which is totally crazy that that happene happened. >> bill: that is still taxpayer dollars. see five oh, yes, you see a $17 million fund, and you might assume that there has been $17 million worth of payments made. >> harris: what we know about

that fund is that it deals with all sorts of discrimination. so, actually, that it doesn't make the argument any better for what they need to do. it >> rachel: there should not be -- was part of that bill that they put forward yesterday, in terms of exposing some of the names of people who were using that fund. and that is really when you can do the actual drill down on who it pays for what what appeared >> bill: some of that is leaking right now. >> lisa: some of the problem is that people hear this, there is that trust issue of our government. i mean, you are married to a congressman, and i am sure that you deal with us on a daily basis, but these are much bigger problems that americans look at. >> sandra: another problem is they are running the country. there is a major trust issue here. >> lisa: i also think it is an

issue of fairness. because a lot of americans are saying if i did some of these things that are representative conyers is being accused of, i would be fired from my job appeared there is no way that my career would withstand this scrutiny. and i also think that if you look at the office of compliance and the barriers that are put up for these women or, regardless of sexual harassment, whatever the incident is, as you mention, $17 million, there are various things involved. but you look at the barriers put in place, and that is it stacked against the individual's upbringing allegations. so we aren't seeing house resolutions being passed. there is training next week i believe on thursday, talking about this as well, so this is going to be an ongoing conversation on capitol hill, as we will all be listening. >> harris: with regard to the money, there was this a slush fund out there that would pay for anything. >> bill: a lot of people came on tv and said that they knew nothing about it.

this is a sea change in america. it is happening in real time. russell simmons, garrison keillor and matt lauer. charlie rose ten days ago. who knows who it may be by 5:00 this afternoon? and into the week next week. and it is going to -- it will go into different sectors and america. and i think it collectively, how we reacted to this, and how our relationships with each other change, perhaps, is it something that we have to be attentive toward. i know that i think about it a lot more, just my interaction with my own colleagues. >> sandra: you are a complete gentleman, bill hemmer. >> bill: , thank you. >> rachel: a bill, i thought about that as a political spouse. the pictures taken. you know, i think political people, especially men, are going to have to be more careful about how they take a picture

with somebody, or watch they do because you don't want to have -- >> harris: as people come forward, we have to follow the stories of these victims, as they come through, and make sure justice is absurd. that is important to do. so, speaking of justice, wow. what a day. michael flynn, former security advisor to the present and worked with the transition team, the trump transition team, has now pled guilty to lying to the fbi on at least four different matters. having to do with russia. we are following this today because now it has come out that he is now in his testimony with the officials, willing to tell a judge and say" that he was directed to do what he did in russia, by senior officials among the trump transition team. and around and around we go. we are following this closely on fox news at 325.

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>> sandra: after a long fight, the justice department leaking documents on the infamous tarmac meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch. one official reportedly writing "fox news has picked up a local phoenix news report about a casual unscheduled meeting, between bill clinton and the ag." about the head of the fbi thought it was much more important than that. speak i am not picking the attorney general, but her meeting with president clinton was the capper for me. i then said you know it? the department cannot, by itself and that's it. >> sandra: oh, that's meeting. in 29 pages. >> bill: it continues to linger.

>> harris: 29 pages. one a second conversation. >> bill: very short conversation. >> bill: not even close. look at, these records have been kept private for a reason. they don't want a lot of people to know what the department of justice is onto here, we are going to peel this way. i think in time, we will find that there was something that led to that whole suggestion of don't call it an investigation, call it a matter. >> rachel: i love that this was a local reporter. a person on the ground. you know, it really did change the election in a huge way. i think your credibility for the clintons it was a sort of solidified in terms of the people's public opinion so much by that meeting because people could see if that cool. >> bill: that guy, referring

to whoever leaked the story. it was at a reporter? in arizona? or was it an airport worker? that person has not been identified. >> lisa: does anyone else feel like the investigation was just a formality? we know that the fbi was dishonest about the documents that they had from the beginning about the tarmac meeting? we know that comey it lied unde under. president obama went on national television saying that hillary clinton didn't put it national security at risk it. and we also know that the exoneration letter was drafted before he even gave the announcement about hillary clinton, so from my vantage point, it's really just feels like the investigation was just a formality. see too well, you are going to hope that some people were doing their jobs because they should have been, but the very fact that loretta lynch regrets this meeting tells me a lot. right?

not only was it inconvenient, but what about her legacy? >> rachel: it's impedes on her legacy. it really does. >> sandra: well, michael flynn, former national security advisor pleading guilty to making a false statements to the fbi. this happening just a couple hours ago. this story continues. a lot of details we still have yet to learn. we will have more on this story as it unfolds. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums

>> sandra: at fox news alert, former national security advisor michael flynn pleading guilty to lying to the fbi about his conversations with the russian ambassador before president trumps inauguration. he is agreeing it to cooperate with the molar investigation. reacting just a short time ago. >> if this is the universe of charges that my client is pleading guilty to, given the far broader exposure that he had on a variety of other matters, he tells me that he is providing substantial cooperation. i don't think we have seen the end of this, but clearly, a very significant milestone when he has to plead guilty to lying to federal officers. >> sandra: he said in a

statement that's nothing about the guilty plea implicates anyone other than mr. flynn. what did you make about him there talking about this indicates to him that he is cooperating? >> bill: i don't know what he knows. we don't know. but he has been on this issue like a dog on a bone for quite some time, even more so than most democrats. i think what we learned in the past hour that i find is significant about how flynn came under financial and emotional pressure, and then finally agreed -- help him crystallize his position. i think the other thing you need to hang onto is more action from the white house. the attorney this past hour said nothing about this charge implicates anyone other than flynn. if so, watch to see how that story develops. or dozen to develop it. >> rachel: well, he is from california, where the resistance is from. i think that the democrats are still hoping that this russia thing is going to bring this president down. i will tell you that i live in

the west. i don't think that anyone is going to change their opinion based on this. i don't think so far -- there has been no collusion with the president that it has come out with food with all the leaks, i think we would have seen something by now. >> lisa: it flynn mentioned the fact that his family has been under enormous pressure appears there is a huge financial way to this as well. there has been other sufferers who have said something similar. i forget what the publication was, but one of the staffers had written about the financial implications of even going through this. just of the great cost of hiring attorneys, and going through this process. so, if you are an average staffer, how do you pay for it? the legal counsel involved in going through the investigation, being questioned by robert mueller, the amount of money and financial cost of employing legal counsel is enormous. >> sandra: yes, the president's twitter account has

been pretty quiet throughout the day. >> bill: all day? >> sandra: well, no, this morning. before that, he has not reacted. >> bill: fine point. what she talked about with catherine was that he could not afford a 2-3 year court battle. all right, more "outnumbered" in just a moment. provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires. whether it's a ride to the doctor or help around the house. oh, of course! tom, i am really sorry. i've gotta go. look, call right at home. get the right care. right at home.

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>> sandra: i picked a horrible week to give of caffeine. you will be hosted hosting ""fox & friends"" this weekend. we appreciate you. here's harris faulkner. >> harris: the washington bombshell right now, former national security advisor michael flynn pleading guilty to lying to the fbi. this is speculation is building that other shoes may drop. let's go "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. general flynn pled guilty to federal district court charges that he lied to the feds about his conversations with the russian ambassador. flynn is the first trump administration official in the fourth connected to the campaign to be charged as part of a special counsel robert mueller's wide-ranging investigation into possible collusion between russia and members of trump steam. we are going to say it