tv OBJEC Tified FOX News December 3, 2017 8:00pm-9:01pm PST
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great week and we will see you back in washington next fox news sunday. harvey levin: the objects people choose to keep in their home define who they are. this is... i feel like i'm in an alfred hitchcock movie. i'm harvey levin. this is the story about a poor child who literally fought his way to the top of the world thanks to his guardian angel, a cranky old man. he was the first person who really gave you hope. oh, my god. i'm getting watery-eyed. - it's okay. - i can't talk right now. harvey: mike tyson's life started out bleak. your mom was a prostitute, your dad was a pimp. you were arrested like 38 times by the time you were 13 years old. well, i wasn't a good crook, i guess. his legal problems legendary, but the rape trial, well, he passes that off as racism.
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there were a number of white people on the jury. one black guy with white tendencies. tyson's money problems were eye-popping. mike, how do you go broke when you make $400 million? but life has changed for mike tyson in a big way. iron mike is not mike tyson. nah, two different guys. those two guys can't even live together. harvey: mike tyson, from the depths to the top. back down, rising again. mike, it is so good to see you. - how are you doing? - thank you so much for doing this. harvey, trust me, my pleasure. so, i just want to tell you before we start, i'm fascinated by your story. and this is gonna be a journey that's gonna be rough at times about how you kind of weaved in and out of trouble and success and failure, but became this guy that you are today, and it's an amazing story. - want to get started? - let's do it. let's do it.
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( birds cooing ) so this is your, kind of, pigeon menagerie here - that you keep in your home in las vegas. - yeah, yeah. this is, um, reminiscent of my childhood. this is your object. why this bird? this is the toughest bird in the house. this is like the mike tyson of birds. - this-- why? - he's the boss. now i understand that, like, this bird has a long bloodline, - like a decades old bloodline. - yeah. so this could actually be traced back to your childhood. - yes. - which we're going to talk about now. - you want to put him back so he doesn't fly the coop? ha. - sure. - you grew up in brooklyn. - yes. harvey:and it was an interesting upbringing. mike: well, i grew up in brownsville, brooklyn, a poverty-"strucken" area, so to speak, and a crime-infested area. and so we had to live in that kind of circumstances.
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i used to get in trouble. i used to rob houses and stuff and i used to get in trouble. - you got in a lot of trouble. - yeah, i got in a lot of trouble. this was my building right here. i used to live here. all these places, this was all slums. this was all really bad stuff. harvey: your mom was a prostitute, your dad was a pimp. mike:yes. that means, in a way, you grew up in a whorehouse. pretty much, yeah. what was that like? mike: it's just something you're accustomed to. you're accustomed to seeing your mother fix the girls up and everything, getting them ready to go to work and it's just a part of your life every day. harvey: did you ever understand how messed up that was for a kid? - no. - it was just part of your life. - it was part of my life. - you got in a lot of trouble. was there anybody kind of guiding you, saying, -"mike here's the way you should live or is it just-- - mike:no, no. only people that was guiding me was the criminals. the older kids, the older criminals, they were guiding me. like, "snatch that purse, snatch that necklace. let's break in this house."
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that's the only guidance i had. mike, you were arrested like 38 times by the time you were 13 years old. i don't understand that. how can that even happen? well, i wasn't a good crook, i guess. - ( laughter ) - if i got caught 38 times, i wasn't good. i mean-- fair enough. what were you doing? robbing houses, snatching jewelry, snatching purses, pick-pocketing. how does a kid get arrested 38 times? the cops are just letting you go, letting you go, letting you go? if you're a young kid, your mother has to just come and pick you up. you don't really get any charges. so there were never consequences? not really. really small ones. i might get a beating if i get home. so the first time you fought, my understanding is it involved a pigeon. mike:i used to keep the pigeons in abandoned buildings at the time. i didn't have a coop on the roof. i couldn't afford to buy the wood. so i kept them in abandoned buildings, in apartments in abandoned buildings. and the guy went into the abandoned building and stole one of my pigeons. - right. - and he ran outside and then i saw him outside,
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i said, "hey, give me my bird back." and the guy said, "you want this bird back?" and he just... popped his neck and he put the blood on me, hit me in my face with the bird. holy smokes. what did you do? i didn't do nothing at first, and then somebody told me to fight him, then i fought him. what was your takeaway from fighting? - i liked it. - why? i don't know, but it was-- - tell me why. - it was adrenaline. it was just a big adrenaline rush. and plus, i won, so that made me feel good. how old were you when you went to reform school? i was 12. harvey: and you were sent by whom? mike: i was sent by the judge. when you were going through everything that you went through as a kid, did you feel like you had a fighting chance to succeed in this world? - i didn't have no hope. - you had no hope? - no hope. - did you give up? kinda, yeah. kept robbing and stealing. but it all turned out okay, though. ( music playing ) so tell me what this is. i think i-- joe louis?
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yeah, this is his boxing glove. he fought in this glove. harvey: this is actually his boxing glove? mike:yeah. he fought jersey joe walcott in that glove. harvey:wow. god, the gloves look so different. what is it made of? canvas? - mike:canvas, leather. - harvey:was he kind of your boxing hero? mike: at one time, yeah. there was somebody who changed your life fundamentally, and it involves boxing. you met him in reform school. cus d'amato. - mike:absolutely. - harvey:tell me how you met him. mike: i met him through bobby stewart, who was a staffer at a reform school that i was in. - harvey:right. - tyson:and he developed me in the degree where i could go visit cus and he could see me box. harvey: so cus was a boxing trainer? manager? mike:yes, all that. he was a psychiatrist. everything. and after he watched me box, he said i'm the next heavyweight champ of the world. a guy comes to me with a spark. i fan the spark until it becomes a flame. i feed the flame until it becomes a fire. then i feed the fire until it becomes a roaring blaze.
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that's what i have to do. harvey: how can a guy who meets you for the first time and maybe watches you in the ring for a couple of rounds say you're gonna be-- hey, listen, that's the only thing in my life i don't understand. how did he know? did you do anything spectacular before he said that? no, i got the ( bleep ) kicked out of me. so he watches you get beat up - and then he says you're gonna be the next champion. - yeah. harvey: it's one thing for cus to take you under his wing as a boxer. it's another thing to become your surrogate father, which he did. how did that happen? i don't know. oh, my god. i'm getting watery-eyed. it's okay. um... ( mumbles ) i can't talk right now. harvey: in a way, he was the first person who really gave you hope. pretty much. so, how did he-- how did he train you? i mean, so you get the crap beaten out of you the first time. ( laughter )
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so, then, how does he make it so you're the crap beater rather than the crap taker? mike: he just started talking to me about, you know, "do you want to do this?" you know? he said how much that i would accomplish and what i would be. he sold it to me. he not only gave you confidence, he gave you self-esteem. yeah, absolutely. he gave me too much pride to steal. harvey: that's really a big thing. so it's not just about boxing, it's about life. that you stopped stealing, robbing, burglarizing. absolutely. so did you feel like a different person when you were around him? absolutely. um... that's funny that you say that because i always felt confident around him. - hmm. - he always made me feel confident. he kinda taught you how to read, didn't he? yeah. he taught me how to read and write. and it became kind of a passion of yours. yeah, i know how to read pretty good. yeah. you read nietzsche.
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- yeah, that's pretty com-- - you read machiavelli. yeah, that's kinda complicated, nietzsche. - harvey:yeah, yeah. - mike:nietzsche's first time having sex, he got a venereal disease. - i did not know that. - first time he ever had sex, he had a venereal disease. he never had sex since. that's your takeaway from nietzsche? huh? no. i just find that very interesting. commentator:with the uppercut is tyson. catches him with a light left hook and he goes down! he goes down. he should be able to get up from this. his legs may be shut-- they are! it's all over. we've got a brand-new heavyweight champion of the world, mike tyson. what did it feel like when suddenly you become the champion of the world? mike: it's everything me and cus talked about. harvey: that was sad because cus was not able to see it, was he? -he died a year before. - mike:yeah. harvey: you think about cus when you walk in the ring? all the time. even now. harvey: you walked around with the championship belt for three weeks without taking it off after you won it. mike: yeah, 'cause it was very important to me. harvey: it was a big deal, huh? so you have to look, like, from what i just told you where i came from, to being the champ of the world.
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( exhales ) incredible. i want to get into a couple of fights. holyfield. so everybody knows the story that he was head-butting you. your reaction to bite his ear is interesting to me because you're a trained fighter and it seems like the fists do the talking. commentator: now here's the bite. keep your eye on mike. mike has just-- see, look at him. you can see it. you can see it! there it is. commentator 2: i can't believe what i'm seeing, fellas. i've never understood how it turned out to be biting rather than fighting. mike: 'cause instead i got a little-- i was undisciplined and i lost control and i bit him. - you were on oprah... - yes. ...and you told oprah that you were sorry. and she didn't buy it. i didn't buy it either. you didn't seem sorry. well, at that time maybe i wasn't sorry, but i am now. very regretful now. - harvey:you made peace with him. - mike:yes. - harvey:you're friends now, right? - mike:pretty much.
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barbra streisand came to visit you after the larry holmes fight. and you told her her nose was sexy. - mike:yeah. -( harvey laughing) mike:'cause i said, "my trainer thinks your nose is big, but i think--" i told her it was sexy. harvey:barbra streisand comes into your dressing room after the fight? mike: with don johnson. - harvey:with don johnson? - mike:yeah. i want to talk about one other fight. -buster douglas. - mike:yes. harvey: you were favored by 42 to 1 in that fight, and you lost. - that sucks, doesn't it? - yeah, it really must suck. - how did that happen? - i wasn't taking buster serious 'cause i knocked out everybody that knocked him out. and he just came really to fight. commentator: he's knocked mike tyson down! for the first time in his career, mike tyson hits the canvas! he's not gonna make it! buster douglas is the new heavyweight champion of the world! that must have made you reel. i've been taught by cus not to take it personally. you win through your losses.
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so cus lives with you. all the time. it really makes you emotional to think of him. yeah. ( mumbles ) ( music playing ) i'm gonna talk about women. you've had your share of problems with them. - yes. - why do you think? i think i'm a target. i think sometimes i say things i shouldn't say. do you ever do things you shouldn't do? ( music playing ) ♪ ♪ohhhhhh, ou! guess what i just got? uh! ♪i used to be spellbound hello again. ♪i used to be spellbound hi. ♪i used to be spellbound that's a big phone. ♪in your arms. [screams] ah, my phone. ♪you built the flame ♪that warms my heart, ♪but lying and cheating ♪has torn us apart ♪and i'm moving on.
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so what is this? this is a-- valentines. they're valentines. - harvey:valentine's day card you sent to kiki? - mike:yeah. - harvey:your writing sucks. - mike:i'm sorry. - harvey:would you read it? 'cause i can't. - mike:yeah. "i hope you're happy 'cause i'm so unhappy. just ( bleep ) with you. your husband, mike tyson." that's the valentine's day card? ( laughter ) - seriously? - yeah. harvey: boy, you're a romantic. ( laughter ) mike: i like to bust her chops. i want to take you back. i'm gonna talk about women. what was your view of women? you did not have a lot of role models to look at. what was your view of women back then? well, i didn't have-- there was no one. i was young and in my 20s. a lot of women liked me. harvey: they liked you because you were the world champion.
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mike: yeah. like, a lot of ladies liked me when i was in my 20s. i mean, i don't know how else to put this. were they people you respected? were they a commodity to you? oh, absolutely. i had my sisters and stuff. there was always somebody i respected. i respect everybody. unless they give me reason not to. you've had your share of problems with them. - yes. - why do you think? i think i'm a target. i'm a target and i think sometimes i say things i shouldn't say. do you ever do things you shouldn't do? sometimes. - harvey:when you were baptized... - mike:mm-hmm. harvey: i read that you took one of the choir girls home and slept with her. i can give you a quote if you want. - no, i don't want the quote. - ( laughing ) - the quote's pretty good. - i've done something like that before. that's, um, crazy. i'm crazy. you don't seem crazy now. you seem pretty introspective, actually. i got my tendencies. can i talk about a couple of relationships? robin givens.
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just too young to be married at the time. harvey: do you think there was love there or was this just-- mike: i don't know if there was any love there. there was probably infatuation there. the worst part, i don't know if there was any love there. your view was, she just took you for a ride. well... ( exhales deeply ) yeah, that's probably me feeling sorry for myself, too, a little bit, you know? but i wasn't the greatest husband in the world. i've never really heard you say anything like that. yeah. i was a hard guy to live with at that time. i was 21 and i just stopped living my life. i didn't understand what getting married was all about. - harvey:until you did. - mike:yeah. i remember vividly the "20/20" interview. robin, some of the things that we've read... that he's hit you. he gets out of control. um... throwing, screaming. - does he hit you? - he shakes. he pushes. he, um, he swings.
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you never spoke up. you just sat there. mike: because i was upset. i was mad. and i was thinking, "when this interview's over, i'm gonna kick her ass." - what do you mean? - what i told you. what i just said. you scared the crap out of brad pitt. tell me what happened. it's just that i was at the house 'cause i had just left the house yesterday from being with her, hanging out with her, and then that's what we would do. even though we were going through a divorce, we would still be together and sleep together. and, um, one day i came in and nobody was home. and as the car was coming around, it was her and brad pitt. harvey: and he sees mike tyson. mike: yeah, and he's really scared. scared to death. well, i had no idea of doing anything to him. harvey: but that's a-- ( chuckles ) that's a moment, isn't it? - yeah. - mike tyson looking at brad pitt with robin givens. but he was high, though. i could tell he smoked a joint or something. - ( laughing ) - he was like... ( laughing )
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without getting really specific, there have been a lot of women who have made claims against you, and some have involved physical violence. why do you think you've had at least your share, if not more than your share, of people making accusations like that? well, because, um, some of the accusations i may have done, but not all of them. it's tough when you do some of them to start telling people this one's true and this one's not true. well, that's just what it was. were your relationships with women satisfying? i don't know how to answer that. ( music playing ) this, to me, is a metaphor. versace, versace, is everything versace? you lived on the excesses of spending money, um, sex, um, just generally, you seemed to live on extremes when you were younger. that's the way to describe me, i think. extreme guy. either i'm living in the mountains,
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>> i'm kelly. here's a new york. pharmacy giant cbs making a deal to buy aetna. one of the top patients health insurance company. nearly 70 billion-dollar deal is announced sunday evening. this merger brings together cbs more than 10000 drugstores in clinics with around 2 million people covered by aetna. the deal must now pass a regulatory hurdle and be approved by antitrust regulators and that approval is not guaranteed. place in the last year regulators have killed deals involving health insurance companies. public and lawmakers taking a victory lap the second after clearing a major hurdle on tech support on saturday. it is not over yet. the house and senate bill still
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need to hash out the differences in their separate bills before sending a final draft president's desk. one major difference is the senate version eliminates the affordable care act individual mandate. the house is expected to get the ball rolling tomorrow with the chemo. trump the damage control mode in the wake of michael flynn's guilty plea in patient on the ongoing russian investigation. the president said on for the evening i never asked colby to stop investigating flynn just for fake news covering a colby life. he followed up later by criticizing up as repetition and blaming it on the former fbi director. he tweeted this. that's the look at news. that's the look at news. i'm kelly divide. mike tyson.
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uh, tell me what it is. this is gianni versace's marilyn monroe, jimmy dean shirt. i only wore it once. this is a big shirt, dude. ( chuckles ) i mean, this was mike tyson in his heavy period? - yes. - ( laughing ) i'm sorry. it's awesome. it's beautiful. you loved versace, didn't you? mike: that's the best thing god made was versace. harvey: oh, "the best thing god made is versace." ( laughing ) you had expensive taste. - yes. - made a lot of money. - yes. - and you spent a lot of money. - mike:yes. - harvey:you were buying things left and-- cars, and all houses, and all this stuff. was it just the floodgates opened up and you said, "i gotta spend it"? mike:no. it was something i never had before. i never knew what it was like to have all those things before. so, i got them. so, in a way, you kinda lived in the extremes there. yeah, the very extremes. it's always interesting to me when people don't have money, and then all of a sudden, they have tons of money.
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you had no reference on how to spend, how to save, how to be responsible. mike: no. i was just a little kid. harvey:so you just said, "i'm gonna just spend it." - yeah. - was the idea that it was just gonna keep coming - and keep coming and keep coming? - well, it did keep coming - and keep coming and keep coming. - until it didn't. - yeah, until it didn't. - yeah. i mean, this to me, is a metaphor. versace, versace. it's everything versace. you lived in the excesses of spending money, uh, sex, um, just generally, you seemed to live on extremes when you were younger. that's a way to describe me, i think. extreme guy. - you seem like-- - either i live in the mountains or i live in the gutter, one or the other and never in between. this is the first time in my life i've ever really been, like, in between life. i love this metaphor that you've talked about with the pigeons, that there are deep rollers that roll down almost to earth, and then there are shallow rollers - that don't go as far. - yeah. harvey:and that you can't breed two deep rollers
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because the offspring will hit the ground and die. you've called yourself a deep roller. yeah, 'cause my mother and father were deep rollers. harvey: what you're saying is, that when you have two deep-rolling parents, the kid doesn't have a chance. the kid dies. - yeah. - and you viewed yourself that way. that's funny that you say that. one of my, um-- my sister died, of drug overdose. you know, she came from the roller family, too. getting back to this whole idea of deep roller, so you say you came from two deep rollers, your mother and your father. that means you didn't really feel like you had a chance. absolutely not. so you made... around $400 million. - mike:yes. - harvey:mike, how do you go broke when you make $400 million? mike: i don't know, you know. people steal some of it, a'ight? "exert" some of it, and then that's what happens. during the successful time in your life...
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when you look back on it, with all of the chaos, with all of the extremes, were you happy? were you miserable? mike:i was miserable most of my life, professionally. harvey: but personally as well. i mean, there was a period where you conquered the world professionally, and you had the ability to spend anything you wanted to spend, do what you wanted to do, meet who you wanted to-- yeah, but you have to understand that's till cus wasn't there. so why should i really care that much? huh. so you think if cus were still alive, he would've kept you on the straight and narrow? big time. you started a business in prison. my understanding was that women were sending you nude pictures, and you were selling them to other inmates, and you were doing a phone sex business in prison? well, not really. yes, i had-- people would send me pictures. "not really" means there's some truth to that. yeah. ( sighs, chuckles ) ( music playing )
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so what's around your neck? oh, this is my-- "vicka" bead. what are the-- what's the significance? 'cause i'm a muslim. - where'd you get 'em? - got it-- saudi arabia. harvey: so, you became a muslim in prison. mike:i was a muslim before prison, but i guess prison took the credit of it. ( laughs ) what does that mean? 'cause they say i became a muslim in prison. i'm gonna take you back to that period of your life. -desiree washington. - mike:yes. harvey:what comes to mind when you think? mike: i guess it really... ( sighs ) man, a really disturbed person. i don't know, i just feel bad stuff come to mind. an indianapolis jury has returned a verdict of guilty in the rape trial of former heavyweight boxing champ mike tyson,
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jurors entered deliberations just before noon and reached their decision nine and a half hours later: guilty. she-- you know, i don't want to retry the case, but, short story, she says that you raped her and you insist that this was just a woman who was out for revenge because you kicked her out of the hotel room. absolutely. why do you think you were unconvincing to a jury? mike: i was brash. i probably had other "coincidence" with women before that they saw, and um, i just had bad lawyers, too. you were pretty brash about sex on the stand. you literally said, on the stand to the jury, that you wanted to ( bleep ) her, your words. yeah. those are the words that they asked me-- what were the words that i used? yeah, the peanut gallery gasped at that one. ain't it the truth? yeah. ( stammers ) the truth-- the truth don't always set you free.
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and in your case, why do you think it didn't? because, you know, look at it. i'm black, a big, strong, young-- it was all stereotyped. if you're big, strong, and black, you're a rapist. if you're jewish and smart, you're a tax cheat. if you're italian, you got a really nice suit, you gotta be in the mob. those stereotypes. so, you... kind of pass this off as racism? - that's why you were convicted? - exactly. there were a number of white people on the jury. - yeah. - so you think that - the composition of the jury-- - one black guy. who had white tendencies. - harvey:so you go to prison. - mike:yeah. - harvey:you had been there before. - mike:yeah. harvey: was it at all scary for you? mike:no. it's more of inconvenience for me. i didn't belong in there. harvey: you were there for three years. mike:yes. you started a business in prison. my understanding was that women were sending you nude pictures, and you were selling them to other inmates, and you were doing a phone sex business in prison? well, not really.
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yes, i had-- people would send me pictures-- "not really" means there's some truth to that. yeah. ( sighs, chuckles) people would send me pictures and letters and stuff, and, um... there was too many of 'em, so i would give 'em to some of the inmates and some-- some of the inmates. what about the phone sex business? ( sighs ) yeah, i don't want to talk about that. you were sober in prison. - yes. - and, um, sobriety was something that escaped you for a number of years. did that help you? i mean, was there actually a silver lining to being in prison? well, if i wasn't using drugs, i only was drinking, and only from that perspective it cleaned me up. but they made-- ( stammers ) wine and stuff from prison as well. how does that happen? - huh. - they do it. i don't know how, but they just do it. were there people who thought, "wow, i could-- if i could kick mike tyson's ass, i'd get stripes for that"? well, i was pretty angry, too, so i wanted to kick somebody's ass, so i would've been good if somebody would've tried to kick my ass. - anybody try? - no.
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overall, um, how do you view the legal system? you've been in it a lot. sometimes it's good and sometimes it's not. harvey: are you scared of the legal system? mike: 'course i'm scared of the legal system. harvey: when cops stop you, does it scare you? - mike:no. - harvey:why? i must've did something wrong and there's a reason for them to stop me. your daughter died tragically. exodus got entangled in a cable on a treadmill and got-- and strangled. do you have questions that maybe it wasn't exactly that? well, i keep them to myself. do i take that as a yes? ( music playing ) i'm the one clocking in when you're clocking out. sensing and automatically adjusting to your every move. does your bed do that? i'm the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let's meet at a sleep number store.
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aying ) experience the new buick okay, tell me about the trophy. well, this is my daughter milan's trophy that she won when she was probably six years old. keep going. don't let the ball get behind you! good! three. harvey: milan is a tennis player. mike: yes, she is. harvey: an eight-year-old tennis player who's becoming a phenom. you're training another athlete. well, no, it's not that i'm training her, i'm just supporting her. she has her own coach and trainer. - she trains-- - hey! her coach is andre agassi's dad!
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yeah, and she's really becoming and up-and-comer. ( paparazzi chattering ) man: mike, give her a kiss! give her a kiss! man 2: give her a kiss, mike! harvey: so, kiki changed your life. we changed each other's life. but you were never a domesticated guy. no, never. never wanted to be. - but you are now. - yeah, pretty much now. so what changed? i wanted to try something new, and this was the time to do it. she was pregnant, and, um, i wasn't gonna cut out on them, so i said, "let's start a life together." harvey: okay, well, that's not necessarily a ringing endorsement of domestic life. that was kind of a necessity. no, no, that's how i looked at it, was a necessity. so how do you look at it now that that part's over? we're a family. ( squealing, laughter ) - i love you. - i love you, too. - mwah! - thank you. you're welcome. that's a big deal, mike. that's a big deal, that you really are kind of this grounded family now.
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the kids deserve it. harvey: are you happy? mike: yeah, i feel g-- i feel more-- i feel better then i feel sad, but "happy" is a really interesting word. why is "happy" such a reluctant word for you? it's not reluctant but it's interesting, because no one stays happy 24 hours a day. - that's true. - you'd die! but on balance... - you satisfied being a family man? - absolutely. absolutely. ( music playing ) harvey: you're an involved father now. you take your kids to school, run errands. mike: hey, i work on this stuff. i work on this stuff. this stuff is not easy. it's a job. harvey: is it satisfying to you? to accomplish it, yeah. what if one of your kids wants to become a boxer? - what are you gonna tell 'em? - no way. "no way" they shouldn't, or-- well, i'm not gonna train you. - you don't want 'em to do it. - no. why? why? because i took the punches for them.
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they don't have to take the punch, because i took the punches. how do you discipline your kids? just like everyone else. i don't beat them or anything. do you believe in corporal punishment? excuse me? do you believe in corporal punishment, where you spank 'em or do whatever? um, if it's deserved. so it's okay to spank a kid? if it's deserved, yeah. i have a son that's six years old. he's his own guy, so he talks and does whatever he wants, but we gotta straighten him out. he's a great kid. i love that you're smiling when you talk about your kids. yeah, they're awesome. this is tough but i have to ask you about it. so when your daughter died tragically, exodus got entangled in a cable on a treadmill, and got-- and strangled. and this is something that has been really hard for you to live with. - still. - yeah, because, um, in a wild way, in a really-- a curious way, i think i should've been there.
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and it would've happened regardless, but i just think i should've been there. i just know i lost one, but i got seven, so i guess i need to worry about those. one is already gone. you can't do anything about that. you wanna see your sister gina and mike and rayna? how about exodus? she's in heaven. she lives there? she died? yeah, she died, but she's in heaven. you're joking. no, i'm telling you the truth, but it's okay to be in heaven. heaven's a good place. she's up there looking out for you, make sure you don't get in trouble. you have said before that you just... don't understand how that happened. you seemed almost baffled by the circumstances. - yes. - do you... have questions that maybe it wasn't exactly that? well, i keep them to myself.
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do i take that as a yes? no, i guess, keep it as "i keep it to myself." fair enough. ( music playing ) kiki has a lot of control in your relationship. kiki's a trip. ( laughs ) yeah, she-- ( chuckles ) well, that's the role she wants to play. she wants to be-- have the role of being in control, so i give her that role, just 'cause she wants to play it. she's almost like my mother in a weird way. you know... ( mutters ) ...'cause she's always there for everything i need, everything. - and that's comforting, i would think. - yes. and it's something you never really had before. never. but we get each other. that's the main objective right there, we get each other, more so than being in love, more so than being happy, we get each other, and that will-- that's what-- capitalize on the happiness, and all the love, is just by getting each other.
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understanding each other and giving each other space. relationships, we need space. can't-- you can't be too much cluttered with each other, you need space. "iron mike" is not mike tyson. nah, two different guys. those two guys can't even live together. that's why i was saying being married the first time, what was the purpose of me being married to somebody? i couldn't even live with myself at the time. how could i live with someone else? so i knew that was a disaster right there. so you kind of, like, worked on yourself and were able to then be with somebody else. absolutely. ( music playing ) "the hangover." that was a big deal in your life. that was one of the biggest, yeah. i did "2" as well. well, "2" is not nearly as good as "1," mike. - no, but i was in it, though. - ( laughs ) that is true. ( music playing ) the freestanding, cord-free vacuum that can live anywhere
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harvey: okay, mike, what's that? that's a golden globe award that we won. my god, it's heavy. this is the golden globe for "the hangover"? - mike:yes. - harvey:how come it's not inscribed? 'cause i have two of them, and they didn't get a chance to do it yet. that's 10 years ago. ( laughs ) i didn't take it back. before i did the movie, i was-- aw, man. i was in all kinds of drugs, and i was real dark, and um, this gave me a weird-- it sounds so ironic and stuff, but this gave me a new lease on life
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and started me over, put me on a good path to a healthy life. harvey:so you got a golden globe for "the hangover." - mike:yes. - harvey:you have an emmy. - mike:yes. - you have... made a comeback like few people do. i wanted it, that's why. some people don't want it bad enough, and they just talk about it but i really put in the work. harvey:"the hangover," that was a big deal in your life. that was one of the biggest, yeah. i did "2" as well. well, "2" was not nearly as good as "1," mike. - no, but i was in it, though. - that's true. - mike tyson? - shh. this is my favorite part coming up right now. ( drum fill ) ♪ i can feel it coming in the air tonight ♪ - be a chorus line, guys. - ♪ oh, lord ♪ but i been waiting for this moment ♪ ♪ for all my life one more time, guys. all: ♪ oh, lord
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- ( grunts ) - oh, jeez! harvey:that movie changed the perception of mike tyson. was that something, when you saw the script, you thought, "that's what i'm gonna do," or did it just kinda happen? hey, listen, when i first saw the guys, i was in the vip section, i was high, smoked up and everything, little drunk, and they came up to me and said, "hey, mike tyson, what's up? we're gonna be in a movie together." i said, "when?" "tomorrow." i said, "holy ( bleep ), i gotta get my ( bleep ) together. harvey: so this was in many ways luck for you. mike: big time. harvey: were you shocked at the reaction? mike: listen, this is what happened. the movie was over with. it wasn't out yet, but they showed a preview, in movie theaters, of me punching zach. and i remember leaving a restaurant, and the tour bus from la-- you know they got the tour bus? - oh, believe me, i do. - everybody got off. everybody got off the tour bus and started chasing me and hugging me, and saying "we saw you in the movie punching somebody. that looks good. we're gonna go see that movie." and then my friend said, "hey, we got something here, mike. mike, we got something here. you're back. you're back."
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the one-man show that you do. i have seen it, and it's amazing. many people thought this was my first time on broadway, but it wasn't. i actually got arrested on this same block, right here. ( audience laughter ) many years ago, though, many. many, many years ago. harvey:i thought, "how is mike tyson gonna be onstage alone for an hour and 40 minutes and, you know, wow the crowd?" and i found it fantastic. - i couldn't believe how good you were. - thank you, thank you. and they couldn't believe i was a fat kid with glasses. i was kicking these kids' ass, punching 'em, slamming 'em, biting 'em too back then. ( laughter, applause ) oh, yeah, you know you got-- you know, they have you in that headlock too tight? right? you got that later. argh! ( laughter, applause ) where do you get that from? because there are actors who do this for three decades, and they can't own a stage like this. i was just really determined to do it. harvey:and it's really this life story,
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unvarnished, telling the truth about your life. by the time i was 12 years old, i was arrested over 38 times. you know how it is. the juvenile detention center was like "cheers." there, everybody knew my name. - ( laughter ) - no, really. well, you have to laugh. you don't laugh, you cry. i realized sometimes you have to show, like, the bad sides of your life, sometimes things that don't go so well, that goes well with everybody else but just with you, it-- it doesn't make it. it is now the judgment of the court that you are guilty of possession or use of narcotic drugs, a class 4 felony, and you are placed on supervised probation-- you have had issues with drugs and alcohol before... - yeah. - ...and sobriety is something that you've strived for, and you've achieved, but sometimes you slip. how are you doing now? i'm doing really good now, for five years. but that doesn't mean-- there's been people that they're good for 25 years, and then they slip. - it's always tricky. - yeah. you had an amazing 30th birthday. i think oprah was there, donald trump was there,
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jay z was there. a lot of people never abandoned you. well, i don't know who was at the party, but there was a lot of people there. - you don't remember oprah there? - no, i don't remember. this was not in your sober period, then. no. listen, um... i'm just very grateful. i've just-- as i've grown older, i learned gratitude. - you owed millions of dollars to the irs. - yeah. like 80 million, 90 million, stuff like that. mike:so everything you were making was going right to the tax man. mike:exactly. no, it wasn't even going to the tax man. it was going to the lawyers for the tax men. so how were you living? i was in bankruptcy for 15 years. harvey:god! mike:that's history. that's a record history. harvey:but you're now out of the hole. - yes. - that's fantastic. - so now you're making money for yourself. - exactly. ( music playing ) - how old are you now? - 51. did you ever think you'd make it this far?
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never. not to 50. 'cause when you're 20, 50 sounds like it's eternal, but now 50 is nothing. some people do make it through the-- through the bricks. - i'm glad you did. - so am i. - good to-- - thank you so much, mike. - oh, harvey. - thank you so much for doing this. - don't worry about it. - it was really interesting. by the way... your handshake hurts. ( music playing ) - come on. - ( birds cooing ) this is-- this is the boss right here. i feel like i'm in an alfred hitchcock movie. - so that's the mike tyson? - yeah. harvey: is there like a pigeons r us that you buy them at? - where do you get 'em? - yeah, from breeders. oh, you get 'em from breeders. this is amazing, man. - wow. - mike: see all the breeders in there on their eggs?
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harvey: okay, okay, come on. let's get-- ( both laugh ) if one of these ( bleep ) on my head, dude... you mean, that's so much luck. reporter: breaking tonight. president trump takes to twitter and takes aim at the justice department and the system he once said is simply rigged. good evening, i'm steve hilton and we have a seriously big store for you. swamp watch is back and we'll be looking at the outrageous conduct of congress and the slush funds. and we will talk about the things in your life no one ever talks about. a bigin
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