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i guess anderson's dog ate his homework. [laughs] whatever. whatever you say, anderson. but as all the time we have left. let not your heart be troubled. lower ingram is standing by. -- laura ingraham is standing by. was it on an elli elliptical machine. >> sean: i do boxing and street martial arts. now how i train. i don't run on a stupid machine bored out of my mind. >> laura: i have seen your hand broken from mixed martial arts. >> sean: this is the latest. i snapped it when i hit somebody. it's fun. >> laura: i am afraid of you. >> sean: why do you start in on
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me. i hand the show over nicely and this is what i get. i give up. >> laura: you should come to the studio one night on a painted horse. wouldn't that be fun? roll right down 6th avenue. >> sean: oh, okay. it's new york city. every liberal in the world will be there. have a good show. >> laura: welcome to the "the ingraham angle" from washington. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> laura: last night we told you about disturbing text messages about president trump sent by the lead fbi investigator on the mueller probe. now we have our hands on more of this guy's text. they are more troubling than we originally thought. more details in a moment. also tonight, more fallout from
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the alabama special election. beware of the false conclusions pedalled about marking the end of trump's agenda. it's all bull. the real reasons to be learned from the alabama senate race are coming up in the "angle." and senator kirsten gillibrand said the president is bullying her. what? plus, i will go toe to toe with the republican lawmaker pushing for the daca kids. first the dramatic system of department attorney general rod rosenstein before the house judiciary committee. he defended his choice of robert mueller. even as these alarming piece of
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evidence are emerging about the rank anti-trump bias in the investigation. last night we reported on the text between the fbi agent peter strzok and his gal-pal lisa page. in the text, page called the then candidate trump a loathesomee human being. strzok referred to him as an idiot. bear in mind, strzok is the guy who led the hillary clinton email server investigation. he interviewed hillary in the one interview she did. she interviewed abadin. on august 15th, strzok texted page there is no way trump gets
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elected but we can't take that risk. it's like an insurance policy. it's one thing to have a political opinion. it's another thing for members of america's top law enforcement agencies to discuss ways to prevent donald trump from being elected president. strzok was removed from the mueller probe after official became aware of these text. >> what will it take to get a second special counsel to answer these questions and find out what peter strzok was up to? >> the inspector general has 500 employs. >> what kind of text message do you have to see? >> we take seriously the
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concerns of 20 members of this committee or one member. we have the responsibility to make an independent determination. >> do you have any opinion on the lack of the fruit from the poisonous tree of peter strzok? >> i can tell you that if the evidence is tainted, that would raise a concern. >> how with a straight face you can say this group of democrat partisans are unbiassed and will give president trump a fair shake? >> we be recognize we have employees with political opinion. it's our responsibility to make sure those opinions do not influence l actions. >> these are not just political opinions. this is disgusting, unaccountab unaccountable bias. were you aware of how biassed mr. strzok was? >> no, i was not. >> laura: janing us now a
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republican congressman a member of the house judiciary committee and james freemen from the "wall street journal" and a fox news contributor. congressman, that was wild. you saw rosenstein in his tm today. he looked frightened and he was very defensive.testimony today. he looked frightened and he was very defensive. were you convinced? >> you go back to when he appointed mueller, he didn't even identify a crime. comey is doing a counter-intelligence investigation. try to find something. he made a mistake from the beginning. he criminalized politics. new with the text messages, the lead agent on hillary and on the russian case saying maybe he doesn't get elected. taking in mccabe's office the
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deputy director of the fbi. we need an insurance policy to keep trump from getting elected. this is taking a bias and saying you will use the machinery of government to prevent the american people from making a choice? that's disturbing. >> james you wrote this today in the "wall street journal." you noted that the strzok email when he raised that issue of the insurance policy, that really jumped out at you. tell us. >> well, it goes way beyond having an opinion. it goes way beyond extreme bias or even hatred of the president and his supporters that you see in these emails. it's suggesting there was action taken. i think a reasonable reading is these people viewed their role as protecting america from the
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consequences of political decisions. that's not their job. their job is to enforce the law. if there is a more innocent explanation mr. strzok will with a chance to try to provide it. i expect a number of subpoenas coming out of the house judiciary committee to talk to all of these people we have seen mentioned. showing their anti-trump bias and their activism on behalf of the democrats. this is topic-a for future hearings. >> laura: these are move on.org activists. it's almost a conspiracy inside the fbi to do something to stop this candidate from gaining steam. congressman, you want some of these people to subpoenaed. the documents are not coming
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fast as they should be. will you be able to get peter strzok to testify? >> i think we will eventually. remember, bruce ohr, high ranking justice department official. he just got demoted because he was meeting with steele whom fusion gps paid to do the trump dossier before the election and meeting with fusion gps after the election and his wife works for fusion gps. you have people in the justice department and the fbi knee-deep in the dossier. we need to know: how did they get the dossier? did they pay for it. rosenstein would not tell us if your tax dollars were used for the dossier. strzok, ohr and mccabe needs to come in. >> laura: what kind of conversations are they having in the office?
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they are sitting around agonizing whether donald trump will win the presidency? my god, he is the worst ever. we have to stop it! the whole thing is embarrassing for the fbi. all of these people and james i want to hear from you. republicans and democrats, who trotted out robert mueller as an unimpeach ab unimpeachable person in the investigation. i have to say in watching this thing play out. i am not impressed. with how he handled this. i am sorry. i am not >> it's hard to think of what team he could have assembled that would give his investigation less credibility. you are talking about what they are talking about in the office. remember, these are careful, experienced lawyers. this is what they are putting in writing to texts.
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you can only imagine what they say when they about their plans for trump when they are not recording it. that discussion talking about the insurance policy seems to be an effort to keep trump from being president. who else? we have been talking about strzok and page. >> laura: it sounds like it out of homeland or the old 24 show. we will monitor what is the campaign is doing. the whole thing. >> he would do that. >> yes. >> laura: let's bring in 2 legal expers. could there be a conspiracy at the heart of the mueller probe?
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we are joined by the number 2 attorney in ken starr and bill clinton's investigation. sal, have you been out there saying mueller a good guy. you had some criticism. do these new text messages of the lead investigator in this investigation, does this give you any pause? >> it doesn't give me any pause about mueller. it's extremely disturbing. that text you talked about. the text from august where he talked about the insurance policy is by far the most devastating thing that we have seen about how the bureau behaft during the 2016 investigation of hillary's emails. i will say this about bob mueller. i never worked with mueller. i talked to many people about mueller. i have many friends who worked for him. i have friends who worked with
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him and friends who worked over him. whether they like him or don't like him, every single one of them defined him as a very honorable man. but, he is tone deaf. he was naive here in the team he assembled. one thing people forget about strzok. this was a mistake mueller made. strzok even before these texts were found never should have been assigned to the trump investigation. the agent who was a top agent in the hillary email investigation never should have been assigned. >> laura: no. scott, if i were mueller and all of this scrutiny on the investigation. strzok and weissman and bruce
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ohr whose wife works for fusion gps. i would take a 2-week pause on the investigation and say look, we will bring in an independent person to make sure this is buttoned down now. let's take a pause for 2 weeks. he didn't vet these guys for appearance in colon plicatae. -- conplicatae. this is the appearance of a conflict. i don't believe mueller did his job in vetting this team. >> it would not be legal for him to do that. a 2 week delay would not get to the bottom of this. you can't not hire someone --
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that's a double negative. until it becomes a political bias. strzok emails are a problem. i am a former prosecutor. look what mueller did. he addressed it. he removed him from the investigation once he found out. strzok is not the only one making decisions. >> laura: he is the lead investigator. >> you operate on witnesses. >> laura: come on. >> [overlapping talking] >> this is all conjecture. >> laura: the guy is talking about an insurance policy to stop donald trump. >> he was removed. what else would you do? >> laura: why is the guy who is hillary's investigator in the
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hillary emails scandal, why is he hopping over to the trump investigation? >> that's not a conflict. >> he never should have been. as soon as the hillary email investigation was over, president trump and other republican candidates started criticizing the fbi. to put that guy who was harshly criticized before you knew about any of these texts, to put that guy in charge of an investigation of trump, the man who is criticizing him is a mistake. mueller didn't do that. >> that was another -- >> [overlapping talking] >> mueller should have taken him
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off. i support mueller. >> laura: i don't know why you are supporting mueller. mueller is the most over-sold person. i never heard people say bob mueller. >> he is not perfect. but he is honorable. >> laura: a lot of people are honorable and did stupid things for the country. >> [overlapping talking]. >> you are presuming something politically wrong with this. >> laura: yes, i am. >> you have your facts. >> laura: you know what i have, scott? >> [overlapping talking] >> you don't have the bias. >> laura: we have to wait until the impeachment report is sent up to capitol hill to find 7 of them were sending text messages. >> [overlapping talking] >> laura, you are missing something real important.
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>> laura: go. >> the role of mccabe. andrew mccabe is still the deputy director. he is the person whose wife got $700,000. he should not be in this position now. >> laura: is one of the biggest scams ever. no bias! >> [overlapping talking] i will liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind
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and the lessons to are learned. that's tonight's "angle." a lot of finger pointing today. blaming the president and conservative and blaming steve bannon or mitch mcconnell for the fall of roy moore. the truth is the race had zero to do with substance and everything to do with salacious
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allegations in a flawed candidate. remember the issues that trump won on. at time no time when i peeked in on the election did i hear them discussed. trade, immigration, none of those things were debateed in the bm race. a man that many believed could run against doug jones in 2020 said this on my radio show. >> there was no policy discussed in in election. there was no substance to this. there was no discussion of trump's policies or roy moore's policies. they made sure doug jones's policies were not discussed. it was all about scandal. >> laura: it was all about the allegations against moore. the volatile nature of this
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special election in alabama was a joke. mitch mcconnell and his pack rushed in and protected or tried to protect strange rather than just let the people duke it out and sort it out. probably a better path. consultants for congressman mo brooks were warned they should not work against luther strange. reports were they were threatened. then the president put his right leg in for strange and then took it out and put in for moore. that he lost because of trump is ridiculous. alabama is trump country. people love thrum in alabama. the voters are some of the most vocal on the issues that got
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trump elected. immigration issues and second amendment rights. they didn't like roy moore. he lost the governor'seracy twice. as matt tweeted last night. just too much crazy in nerve racking times. there is a limit. the pen ball machine hit tilt and alabama just wanted it over. thinking back on the election. you look at roy moore and trump and their approach. they are not similar. trump was about making america great again. roy moore was about making alabama grimace again. a lesson for republicans. you can't fight everyone at
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once. you can't take on the democrats, the media, the entertainment industry and the establishment of your party unless your candidate has the money and the bra vado to win. that demands candidates who are fearless and unafraid to do introduce. -- introduce. interviews. the other takeaway is the critical need for republicans to engage minority voters. especially in parts of the country that are traditionally hostile to the brand of the gop. in alabama 30% of the electorate
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for black voters. the gop needs to reach out to this community. keep doing those campaign style events. when trump went to the black churchin detroit during the general election. they may not have liked him but you talk to voters and they respect you more. they know you cared just to show up to hear their concerns. republicans have to do this across the country. today at the white house the president announced a black pastor to talk about his tax plan and what can it do for the black community. this was good. >> we represent a country of many african-american families. families need this now. it's time for a change. it's time that we recognize that
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our president is making good on his promises! >> laura: you didn't see that in the evening news. the last thing the left ever wants to see is a conservative preaching law and order to the african-american community. they don't like that. they want a monopoly on the african-american vote. they had it for a long time. this is what is needed. alabama reinforces that. i think the president gets it. let's hope the alabama race serve as a wake up call to the rest of the party before the mid term. that's the "angle." joining us now with reaction is former trump campaign manager and a senior fellow at the center for american progress. congrats on the brook.
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number 1 on amazon. this is pinned on donald trump. donald trump failing. his popularity is at an all time low. 32%. his agenda is going down the tubes and alabama is conservative but they are done with the trump. that's what the left is wishing. >> that's what the mainstream media has continued to say. you saw the story that came out. 90% of the media coverage of donald trump on the 3 major networks have been negative. what we know about the alabama race, number 1, roy moore was a flawed candidate. number 2 the republican party was half in and half out of the race. the republican party is in the race and then pull out and then go back in the race. it's difficult when you have a candidate who doesn't have support from everybody. he did not talk about the issues
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that alabama cares about it. he didn't discuss illegal immigrants or discuss saving the second amendment or any of those thin things. >> laura: he kept saying mitch mcconnell, i will go after mitch mcconnell. that's not what you want. came across as a little crazy. i am sorry. maybe being uncharitable. it came across as odd. that interview with sean hannity was odd. i don't think he acquitted himself well. that did not ring true to people. a lot of women felt like i felt. >> he took the weekend off before the election to go away with his wife. >> laura: he will have a lot of time to do that now.
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a good night for democrats surpriseed to win that seat. a rejection of trumpism in alabama, are you trying to sell that? >> well, there are some credible allegations against this guy. i think sex offender is not a trait any party should look for in a candidate. someone else who had multiple serious allegations of sex offenses against them ran in 2020 would also have trouble with the reelection. >> laura: trump? >> of course. >> laura: al franken is out of the way and will resign. >> it looks like it. >> laura: conyers is out of the way. there will be probably are other revelations. more democrats than republicans. you think that the nation will just rally to the old allegations and say, okay, let's relitigate what we heard in october of 2016. the economy is booming and things are looking up but get
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rid of trump because of old allegations? >> talking about sexual harassment, we should take the politics out of it. >> laura: he denied the allegations. if someone accused of you something from 20 years and you denied it, would it be fair to say he was accused? what is you were innocent? >> there are a lot of women. there was a tape that i can't repeat on tv. >> laura: i think every woman who makes an allegation is telling the truth? >> i believe these allegations. >> laura: al franken said the allegations against him were wrong. >> he should be out of the senate. >> [overlapping talking] >> i believe the allegations against donald trump. i think that sexual harassment is not something we should play politics with. >> laura: the new rules, in a woman makes an allegation, the man doesn't have a right to
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defend himself and be heard in a fair and reasoned process? >> i think it's the very least if you are on tape -- you know what he said. >> [overlapping talking] >> this is the hypocrisy of the left. al frankenat admitted to and we have photographer evidence that he groped women when they were asleep. he said he will resign, but when is he leaving the senate? what day will this happen? >> laura: i have a feeling that al franken may not leave the senate. now that doug jones is in. there maybe he will; maybe he won't. we have a lot to get to. a picture is worth a thousand words. kirsten gillibrand had no
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problem palling around with bill clinton or harvey weinstein. and ted kennedy before that. now he is the moral conscience of the senate? her campaign hit a road block. the president is fighting back. he tweeted this. did he run out of characters on the tweet? [laughing] all right. this forced gillibrand to trot out this. >> he was a sexist slur on silence me. i think president trump is
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wrong. he is a bully and has been attacking different people across the country since he's been president. >> laura: gillibrand's media allies are rushing in to rescue by attacking female members of the president's family. >> his wife who has a platform against cyber-bullying. that's a joke! that's the saddest thing i have ever seen in this white house. ever in my life. his daughter who came to washington to work for the president and develop a platform for women, go home! you are doing nothing if you standby this president. >> laura: what happened to girl power? okay. you don't agree with liberals you are out of the game. go home and bake cookies. in studio is the former vice chairman man of the republican party of california and in portland joined by a democratic
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strategyist. kirsten gillibrand is a senator from new york. she used to be a conservative democrat. moved to long island and she is a different person. gillibrand standing up for women, but after she says trump should resign, he hits back. like he said about mitt romney. now this is sexism. is that sexism? >> well, i have to give it to crists. -- crists. kirsten gillibrand. me evolved to a gun loving democrat from upstate new york to one of the far left member of the senate. this is calculated. she sent out this tweet.
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the president took the bait. it's tiresome to hear strong women, say she is a victim. it defies belief. i am disappointed as a woman. i would like to see her stand up and give as good as she gets. if you google trump and gillibra gillibrand, the number 1 thing that comes up i am fighting back against trump and donate here. >> laura: running for president in 2020. gillibrand is ambitious. that's fine. she will run for president. i think this was coreographed from the beginning. tag trump with roy moore. how do you stand up as a strong
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woman. the second someone says you are full of it, this is sexist. trump said the same thing about mitt romney. >> i think these words take on a different context talking about a man who abused by 20 women of unwanted sexual advantage. that's the current sitting president of the united states who tweeted those words against kirsten gillibrand. he called for his resignation. he was the only one who fired off a tweet toer and not to the others. >> laura: she is leading the charge. >> i think it is sexism. >> [overlapping talking] >> laura: when you call everything sexism, nothing is eism. -- sexicism. you can't have it both ways. when the president of the united states says i am calling you know what on you. oh, i need all of my gal pals to
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help me and demonize ivanka and melania. they stand with the person they believe. do you believe that? >> being held to a different standard. >> laura: how? >> [overlapping talking] >> laura: old on, both of you. >> [overlapping talking] >> laura: why are democrats so afraid to debate the issues? on immigration and stayed. -- trade. and tax reform. the democrats are running scared. they are losing on issue after issue. they go back to the same old line. that they lost the election on.
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the old accusers. i think people are weary television. >> this is a shallow and very obvious distraction here. let's remember gillibrand's history. she stands hand in hand with the clinton family in numerous instances. hillary clinton and her mentor. she threw hillary clinton and bill under the bus. al franken was her colleague. she threw him under the bus. donald trump gave her campaign contributions to run for her second race and a couple of times in the special election to become a u.s. senator. she's thrown him under the bus. >> laura: we are out of time. should she give her contribution from the clintons back? or to charity? >> no.
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senator gillibrand should who what she is doing. using her voice to advocate for women. >> laura: keeping money from a guy who is accused of raping someone. sometimes republicans are their own worst enemy and giveaway the farm when they don't need to. i will debate a member of congress on this importance. stay right here. ♪ if you wear a denture, you not only want a clean feeling every day, you want your denture to be stain free. did you know there's a specialty cleanser that's gentle enough for everyday use and cleans better than regular toothpaste? try polident cleanser. it has a four in one cleaning system that kills ten times more odor causing bacteria than regular toothpaste, deep cleans where brushing may miss, helps remove tough stains, and maintains the original color of your dentures when used daily. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture, use polident every day.
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>> laura: above all else president trump was elected on one clear issue. stop illegal immigrant. that would mean build the wall and no amnesty. some republicans including this guy who believes that the daca amnesty thing is a winning idea. one is here to defend that. that's scott taylor from the second district of virginia. great to see you. you wrote a letter to paul ryan and 34 fellow congressmen signed it. you say it's an important agenda to give 800,000 people brought here as young people amnesty? of all the things we have to deal with in this country, why you obsessed with catering to the needs of illegal immigrants? >> you used 2 words i take issue
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with. number 1 is ham nesty. -- amnesty. i was at the white house and my personal position you am with the president. what president obama did was illegal. i supported more money for homeland security. for the wall. kate's law and all of those things. get more security. we should have a program -- >> laura: are you against chain migration? >> yes. let me finish. let me finish what i am saying. i am for those things. we should have a program for
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unaccompanied minor injuries to get them safely back to their parents. amnesty by definition is forgiveness for people who have offended. >> laura: that's chuck chaschums line. >> i am not chuck schumer. >> laura: they say you are the republican pushing for daca. >> that's complete crap. i am for a stand alone thing for more security for illegal immigrant. you have groups who push that who raise money. like numbers usa that raise money to attack other
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republicans. i am not for that position. >> laura: you called president trump's rhetoric divisive and blamed him for blowing the virginia race on cnn. virginia is a blue state. >> i don't agree with you. >> laura: oh, really? >> do you want me to answer your questions or are you going to keep stepping on me? i don't think that virginia is a blue state. if we say bob mcdonald's election in 2009 was a reverend --oo >> laura: it didn't work. you think president trump is devicis? >> yes, the polls show that.
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i support more money for the wall. you say you support the president. his position is like mine on immigration. it's the same. >> laura: for illegal immigrant. >> i am pro-dreamer.
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>> laura: we frequently give the seasonment media a hard time on the "angle" for good reason. kudos to the "washington post" fact checkers for calling out late night talk show host jimmy kimmel. took him to the wood shed for botching the emotional plea on the chip program. he brought his young son who suffers from a heart condition. chip is the children's health insurance program. one kimmel used to push his anti-republican narrative. >> chip is on the back burner whale they work out new tax plans. parents of children with cancer, diabetes and heart problems will get letters saying their coverage could be cut off next
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month. merry christmas, right. >> laura: not so fast. kimmel suggests that chip has become a bargaining chip in negotiations of the tax plan. it's part of the usual year hend negotiations in congress. few lawmakers are against chip. the question is how to fund it. that doesn't stop kimmel from makinga i wild suggestion that republicans are ecstatic about killing kids for christmas. >> this year they let the money expire while they work on getting tax cuts for their millionaire donors. >> laura: wrongo again! chip funding is unrelated to tax legislations. the gop led house passed a bill re-authorizing chip with most democrats voting against it because of how it will affect
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♪ >> laura: thanks for putting up with me tonight. i'm a little under the weather. but christmas, 12 days away. so get all that gift shopping done, going online. come on, grab a copy of "billionaire at the barricades: the populist revolution from reagan to trump." you will love it. it will make you laugh, smile, cry at moments, very emotional. you can me on twitter and on facebook. listen to me on the radio in the morning.
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and shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team are up next. they have a phenomenal show, as always, on tap. i was watching last night, shannon, during the alabama fallout, and it was fantastic. makes shannon is up next. shannon, you take it away. >> shannon: thank you so much, laura. we appreciate it. here's what we have coming up tonight. court documents newly obtained by fox news they prove the senior justice official was paid to dig up dirt on president trump? tom fitton investigates this new development. does it support claims of antitrust bias by the president's own justice department? congressman matt gaetz turns up the heat on deputy attorney general rod rosenstein today. >> what do you have to see before you will appoint a special counsel to investigate the clear bias that has infected this investigation? >> shannon: new tonight on the las vegas shooting, never before seen insight into the police response. find out would

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