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morning. and shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team are up next. they have a phenomenal show, as always, on tap. i was watching last night, shannon, during the alabama fallout, and it was fantastic. makes shannon is up next. shannon, you take it away. >> shannon: thank you so much, laura. we appreciate it. here's what we have coming up tonight. court documents newly obtained by fox news they prove the senior justice official was paid to dig up dirt on president trump? tom fitton investigates this new development. does it support claims of antitrust bias by the president's own justice department? congressman matt gaetz turns up the heat on deputy attorney general rod rosenstein today. >> what do you have to see before you will appoint a special counsel to investigate the clear bias that has infected this investigation? >> shannon: new tonight on the las vegas shooting, never before seen insight into the police response. find out would newly obtained
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court records tell us about the shooter. plus... another american imprisoned by a hostile regime. will the trump administration get him out in time? a desperate mother's impassioned plea for help. >> i don't think i'm going to see him again alive. ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washington. it is not just the text that purport to show bias by top federal investigators against then candidate donald trump. fox news has also obtained a court document tonight signed by the cofounder of the opposition research firm fusion gps, which put together the so-called dirty dossier. in that statement, glenn simpson acknowledges fusion gps paid the wife of a senior justice department official to investigate mr. trump last year. meanwhile, the biggest tax
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overhaul in decades is on its way to a final vote next week after congressional republicans reached a deal. it could have significant changes for businesses and families. team coverage tonight on capitol hill. doug mckelway is here on details on what's in and what's out. first, rod rosenstein's on capitol hill. ed henry joins us. it sounds like things are really heating up. >> that's right, shannon. this new court document confirms our original parting that the wife of a senior justice department official helped fusion gps dig up that dirt on then candidate donald trump. tonight, republicans are demanding answers on whether the unverified information in that trump dossier led to the appointment of special counsel robert mueller. fusion gps cofounder glenn simpson acknowledging his court document, his company last year hired nelly ohr, the wife of bruce ohr, demoted for concealing his meetings with fusion gps. it commissioned the dossier
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containing salacious allegations. that is raising more questions about the obama justice department's objectivity or lack thereof, since simpson now says he met personally with bruce ohr. "at his request, after the november 2016 election to discuss our findings regarding russia and the election." that was after ohr had met during the 2016 campaign with christopher steele, the former british spy who authored the dossier, which is why republicans today demanded answers from the deputy attorney general, ron rosenstei rosenstein. >> the fbi paper, the dossier? >> i'm not in position to answer that question. >> do you have the answer to the question? >> i believe i know the answer. >> but he did not answer that. he also did not answer whether or not the dossier led to surveillance of trump campaign officials that obviously then lead to robert mueller and the investigation. one of the president's personal attorney, jay sekulow, said the conflicts of interest within the fbi and justice department over fusion gps "is breathtaking in
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its scope and she would spark a special counsel." we won last night we broke the story about the texts between the officials. a lot of folks so they weren't too happy about what they saw and they are questioning about whether they can be impartial. what kind of reaction today? >> it was pretty intense of the house judiciary committee, as you can imagine. he appointed a special counsel and the russia probe and try to claim he does not see an appearance problem with people on robert mueller's team donating money to democrats like hillary clinton and then president barack obama. that fired up republicans on the committee who brandished those stunning anti-trump text messages he reported on last night, where a former member of the muller team, fbi official peter strzok, sent to his girlfriend, fbi official lisa page, text where he was calling donald trump an idiot and cheerleading for clinton's campaign. remember, that was while the fbi agent was an integral part of the agency's investigation into her email server. republicans were furious about other texts, like the one where strzok actually said he could
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"smell the trump support" at a southern virginia walmart. they believe the most explosive texts involves a controversial fbi director andrew mccabe whose wife raked in about half a million dollars from a pac. the problem with this, it speaks to a possible conspiracy. strzok texting to page, "i want to believe the path you threw up for consideration in andy's office that there is no way he gets elected." "but i'm afraid we can't take that risk." rosenstein repeatedly deflected questions about what he knew about this. watch. >> if you have those walmart shopping trump voters that peter strzok so derided in his text messages, how do they react to that? do they have confidence in their fbi and their department of justice? >> we have appropriate internal affairs officers who will get to the bottom of that. >> rosenstein talked about and a
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report that that is coming oute said it is vaguely do relatively soon. he defended robert mueller by saying that he pushed strzok out last summer as soon as he learned about the anti-trump texts, shannon. >> shannon: ed henry live with the very latest. thank you. my next guest has been pressing for answers from the fbi on the salacious but still unverified so-called trump dossier. let's bring in tom fitton, president of judicial watch. good to see you tonight, tom. it seems like a deputy attorney general is indicating he does know more about the dossier, obviously, he didn't feel like -- he felt like he was constrained, that he couldn't answer these questions. do feel like we will ever get an answer about who paid for it? if the fbi paid for any information? whether or not it was used to secure a warrant to spy on the trump team? >> i think it is eventually going to come out. the question is how. willoughby forced out? we don't know. it's interesting, he admitted there is a dossier. we have sued the fbi and justice department for information about these payments and what was going on with the dossier.
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they want to confirm or deny that it exists to digital washer and we are in the middle of a court fight. i can't believe the stonewalling and getting from the justice department and fbi. our attorneys are back and forth with them, trying to get information on the dossier, trying to find out about these fbi texts, and they are playing games with us. i see they are playing games of congress. the leadership of the fbi and justice department need to take ownership over these gamesmanship because it is destroying the credibility and it makes it look like those agencies have something to hide. >> shannon: interestingly, we reference to a court filing to glenn simpson, one of the cofounders of to fusion gps. he does say, under penalty of perjury, he says bank records reflect that fusion contracted with nelly ohr to help the company with its research and analysis of mr. trump. nelly ohr is the wife of the doj official who reached out to fusion gps before and after the election because he wanted to talk to them about this information about the president. that seems, even by d.c. standards, a lot of us have
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spouses that work in different e agencies, that seems a little too close for comfort for just about everything. >> look, fusion gps was a hillary clinton campaign vendor. the justice department was working hand in glove with that, perhaps paying it money. the suspicion as they were paying their money. the top doj official's wife was working there. there was no distinction between the hillary clinton campaign and the department of justice and the fbi and the goal was to unify, to get donald trump. and the text messages that have come out showing that they had some type of insurance policy in case mr. trump won the presidency. this is our fbi. forget about the fbi investigation into clinton and trump being compromised by these conflicts. i think the fbi has been compromised. forget about shutting down mr. mueller. do we need to shut down the fbi because it was turned into a kgb-type operation? >> shannon: a lot of people will feel that it is a pretty radical statement to make.
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>> look, the fbi cannot be trusted to investigate high-level government corruption. at this time. right now, you see mr. rosenstein being blase about the corruption that is going on in his watch. he says, we'll get to it when the ig report comes out. in the meantime, mueller's operation, which has been compromised, is indicting and prosecuting people. they need protection. and i am tired of the blase attitude of this justice department and fbi towards the outrageous corruption that has been uncovered. they were hiding it, remember, they were hiding this fbi agent having being devoted, hiding it since july. >> shannon: onto the point of peter strzok, who was taken off the team, this is what democrat congressman had to say about that today. >> peter strzok did not say anything about donald trump that the majority of americans weren't also thinking at the same time. second, and a testament to his integrity and situational awareness, when the office of inspector general made
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mr. mueller aware of these exchanges, he immediately removed mr. strzok from his team. >> shannon: quickly, why is that good enough for you? >> we don't know what he was involved in and that point in time. he may have been involved in an interview of general flynn, for which he had to plead guilty. i would question that. was he involved in the targeting of man manafort? was he involved in a clinton email investigation? the timing of that text about having an insurance policy seems to coincide with the timing of the sinking of a phis application to spy on the trump team. look, we can't trust anything coming out of the mueller investigation until we figure out what went on with the fbi texts. >> shannon: we will keep digging, we know you will come as well. there is new news every day that raises new question and set of more answers. tom fitton of judicial watch, thanks for coming in. president trump says the win by democrat doug jones and the alabama senate race shows the need for republicans to nominate great candidates. the loss of a g.o.p. senate seat
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made the president so-called closing argument for a tax reform bill in congress even more urgent. doug mckelway is here with what's in the bill, what isn't, and whether it actually gets done before the g.o.p. loses that extra vote that they will have to give up once doug jones this morning. hello, doug. >> republicans are certainly moving's full speed ahead to get tax reform done by next weekend and indications are that they are on track to do just that. senator john cornyn told reporters this afternoon they plan to take the conference bill on the senate floor next monday, it requires ten hours of debate. there may help to pass it on tuesday. late today, we learned of some key adjustments that congress believes will keep skeptical republicans from voting no. the corporate tax rate is set at 21%, instead of 20%, as originally planned, and it would take effect in 2018, not 2019. >> it's at 35 right now. some of it got down to 21, i was certainly be thrilled.
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we haven't set that final figure yet. certainly, 21 is a very great difference. >> that 21% rate puts more revenue in the treasury, so legislators in exchange, could drop the top individual rate to 37%, lower than either the senator hospitals originally intended. in that trade-off solves a big problem. lawmakers and high-tech states like kentucky, connecticut, new york, california, and others, had feared that cuttingl deductions would increase taxes on their constituents. this fix presumably keeps g.o.p. lawmakers from those high tax states onboard. in the same vein, it gives taxpayers flexibility, offering a $10,000 cap not just on property taxes, but on income or sales taxes, depending on what you choose. the conference bill, or report, as it is called, is expected to come out friday. but really cover the workers all but done by staffers who have been burning the midnight oil, and that is not sitting while the.
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>> we are operating under house and senate rules, not putin rules. >> i would like to propose that we wait until the new senator from alabama is sworn into office. >> there is a snowball's chance in hell that republicans will agree to that. they cannot afford to lose many more votes. in fact, we learned yesterday that senator mccain, who voted for the senate version of the bill, has been readmitted to the hospital. you know, shannon, is it necessary? republicans will meal him onto the chamber floor on a stretcher to vote next week if they have to . shannon, back to you. >> shannon: every vote counts. doug mckelway, thank you very much. from tags are formed to reforming the fbi, much to discuss with that tonight's panel. mollie hemingway, fox news contributor. a political congressional reporter elana schor. thank you both for coming in tonight. let's start with taxes, which drugs were just talking about there. this poll says that the majority
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of americans and says that they don't think it will be good for them. 52% think the legislation will hurt their personal finances. 30% say it will help them mostly, 8% say it once i difference and 10% are unsure. mollie, where have to g.o.p. failed to message this? >> is a stunning message failure that people think this tax bill, that will cut their taxes, will hurt them in some way. the vast majority, almost everyone, will receive a tax cut and yet people have gotten this idea that it will harm them somehow. it's partly that you don't have a good explanation coming from a strong executive or people on the hill. it's also very bad media coverage. normally when the american public has a policy of something, you see a lot of media coverage trying to expand how they have a false view and that is not happening. it's very bizarre feature of the cured media environment. >> shannon: democrats tend to do better with their messaging, whether they shot down, taxes, health care. they seem to really be able to corral their messaging better than the republicans with
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something like a tax bill. >> i think mitch mcconnell has had the deck stacked against him because he can only afford to lose two votes and now that doug jones is coming in, one vote for the media is constantly conditioned to focus on, who might democrats be able to pick up? it is also devious to message from the opposition. they found that against president obama and although she was on the other foot. >> shannon: we also have the new revelations, the hearing on the hill today, more or the deputy attorney general took heat from a lot of sites and trying to answer these questions about the robert mueller investigation has been compromised in some way. here is what congresswoman said today when she was pressed on the potential bias of some of these investigators. here's what she said. >> political affiliation is different from pious. i believe i'm quoting you correctly when you say that. i want to remind my colleagues that people are allowed to have their personal opinions and their political affiliations. for instance, special counsel mueller and former fbi director james comey and you are lifelong
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republicans. >> shannon: mollie, almost everyone in town has a political affiliation but they also are employed by all of these agencies. so are we to give the benefit of the doubt? >> it's absolutely true that everyone is allowed to have their own political opinions. witness first came out, people said, it's normal but you might have political opinions. what we are sick in the text is so far beyond normal political opinions, it's not funny. you have strzok talking about the insurance policy to protect the country in the case -- we don't have the full context, we don't know what is going on. but much more than that, you have andrew weissmann, sending notes to sally yates when she was not doing her job and going to a party for hillary clinton. you have this really disturbing news that this top doj official, his wife, was working for fusion gps on the dossier at the same time he's involved in this investigation. this is so much -- there's so much here that is problematic.
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particularly that we don't have any indication after a year of searching and all these investigations of any actual treasonous collusion with russia. we do have a lot of indications of some very dangerous behavior by our intelligence agencies and playing politics and working to undermine democratically elected president, both before and after the election. >> shannon: elana, we got word from ty cobb, the white house attorney, saying it looks like mueller is getting close to wrapping this up. with all of these things out there, do you think the american public will have confidence in this, whatever he does or doesn't find? >> i think it a certain point it will come down to partisan politics. eventually, republicans will release their report on democrats will be faced with a choice. we signed onto a bipartisan conclusion on what happened? >> shannon: from the committees. >> i think that will be the pivot point for mueller. once congress is done, mueller will face increasing pressure for ty cobb to wrap up. >> shannon: do you think if they finish before he does? >> i do believe they finished almost simultaneously.
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with the american people need is for the department of justice to be forthright about exactly what this dossier was used and most importantly was it use to secure a wiretap at an opposing party's political campaign apparatus. that is a scandal of such a tremendous proportion, it really needs to be answered so that people can put it to rest. >> shannon: as a previous guest, we will eventually get to those answers, who knows when. mollie and elana, great to see both by the bangladeshi immigrant facing terrorism charges for setting up a mostly failed pipe bomb in the heart of new york city's transit system appeared in court today. he appeared by video from his hospital room. he's accused of detonating an explosive that was trapped in his body and badly injuring himself. no other major injuries were reported from the blast. the trigger public defenders who stood by akayed ullah's hospital bed during today's events did not request bail. one of mueller's harshest critics, congressman matt gaetz,
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joined us today. plus, brand-new details about one of the deadliest mass shootings in american history. stick around for new developments in the las vegas shooting investigation. later, a devastated utah family is begging for the safer term of their son who has been incarcerated along with his wife by a brutal tyrant for the past 18 months. >> we have been living in a >> we have been living in a fog -- for 18 months.
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themselves in office. >> shannon: republican congressman from florida, matt gaetz, joins us now. are you buying what he is selling? >> absolutely not. you would think for mr. rosenstein's testimony that these are people just saying, "i like hillary clinton or a dislike donald trump" read the entire reason that we have a special counsel process is to escape from conflicts of interest. here, we seem to have dove head first a orgy of conflicts of interest. you've trigger key relationships, mr. strzok and his mistress who continue to save these terrible things, not only by the president, but about their plans to infect come in and save the country and be the insurance policy. these are action items, shannon, not just beliefs. >> shannon: do give mueller credit that he dismissed strzok? >> it wasn't a mueller at falcon. he had to get busted by his own inspector general before this happened. we should've had a processed about the people must be 17.
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it's one of two things. he was bringing people onto his team as a consequence of bias or he didn't care about it. another circumstance, you shouldn't have the never trump group being the group that's investigating the president. >> shannon: you're not a founder of the special counsel. you think there should be a second run to look into these allegations as many people are saying? look at the fbi and the doj? >> all americans want to have confidence in the department of justice and the fbi and right now, that competence is shattered because they have been turned into partisan political operations where people are able to go and persecute the president with information that is totally dubious. i think to restore that, we have to have more transparency, checks and balances, and stronger reporting to the congress. it is really insulting to be a member of congress and have a deputy attorney general not answer basic questions about what our taxpayer money was used to buy the dossier. >> shannon: to this point about a secondary special counsel, we did apparently
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today, he said, rosenstein stood strong against disgraceful attacks by g.o.p. congressmen on mueller inquiry today. a shameful effort to distract and sabotage the investigation with deceptive calls for a second special counsel." >> we have an oversight responsibility, when things aren't working right at the fbi department of justice, we are the elected representatives to ensure that you have a fair process for all americans. the evidence is overwhelming. the current deputy director of the fbi wrote email segment hillary clinton was going to be treated special. at the same time, the folks investigating the president, mr. strzok, saying that he could smell the trump orders at walmart and that this election should have been 100 million-0 and there is no reasonable person i could have voted for donald trump. this is bias but it's leading to action that is a legitimate and we have a responsibility to to get to the bottom. >> shannon: a second special counsel on this point? >> we showed. >> shannon: do you think we will?
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>> that depends on the attorney general. we've called on them to show up and do his job or step aside. right now, frankly, we see rosenstein having more influence than our own attorney general and i think he could be a strong right now, appoint a second special counsel, and restore competence in these agencies that are absolutely essential to the functioning of our government and society. >> shannon: politics aside, you and i agree on college football. >> super excited super excited. >> shannon: we too. we agree on the coach. good to see you, congressman. so many on answered questions about the las vegas massacre. local reporters there digging up new information from authorities about the october tragedy that killed 58 victims, injured more than 500. why are there so many unanswered questions? we'll break down what they just found out. plus a democratic congress woman has some choice words for the woman of capitol hill in the wake of the harassment scandal. the panel take that up shortly.
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♪ >> shannon: of the night of october 1st, stephen paddock shot and killed 58 people, leader himself, during a las vegas music festival. the las vegas review journal has obtained vegas police search warrant records pertaining to the investigation. here to tell us whether they help at all in understanding his motives, randy sutton, retired lieutenant from las vegas and pd. thank you tonight. >> my pleasure, thanks for having me. >> shannon: the media, those who are local and have connections, they are really pushing to get release of some of these records. they are getting more about the search warrants, from what you've seen seen, does that tell you anything about where police are in this investigation aren't where we may -- what we may find out? >> it shows the progression of the investigation. it also shows you that law enforcement is darting all the letter is and crossing all the . remember the massive homicide investigation, search warrants are the tools of the trade
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because every single little nuance, every single piece of evidence can be tainted if it isn't found properly. including even examining the body of the shooter himself. so detectives, when the extra mile major they had search warrants for everything humanly possible. what it also shows on the progression of the investigation, is how thorough the investigators are being paid remember, they are looking for motive, they are looking for additional suspects, looking for answers. here's the frustration, the answers don't appear to be forthcoming in a lot of different ways. normally, when an investigation happens like this, you know a motive, there is a relationship, there is -- there are records found. >> shannon: a letter, something. >> right. honestly, when i think of this guy, paddocks, i think of him as the bogeyman because he shows up
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out of nowhere, he doesn't fit the bill of any radar, he doesn't fit the bill of any type of looking at his profile and saying -- here's a guy who would be a shooter. everything is gone. the missing hard drive from the computer, that is not a normal thing to do. i think this was his last way of getting back at all of us. we'll never know why. >> shannon: and that may be the ultimate irony of this whole thing is that everyone wants answers when this happens, we are all sitting around saying, why has it been so quiet, we've got nothing him but is no video, we know that they have to be concerned about civil liability at the hotel and lawsuits that have been filed. but for this guy to bring in the mass of stuff we are told he brought in, quotas at cdu? are there not videos of whether he used a freight elevator, maybe there aren't videos on any floor, but you would think there
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is something. >> i am sure there are videos of him going through the hotel. you know, he didn't lock himself in the room for the entire time he was there. i am sure he went downstairs and there is no doubt in my mind that there are some videos of him. is it anything of any consequence? doesn't show him with other people? there certainly is not a smoking gun here, if you'll pardon the expression, when it comes down to this individual. now is there something? probably there is. were they going to show? a piece a videotape that shows this guy going to the men's room in the casino? that is not going to be anything of any value to anyone. it's about the investigation. are there any accomplices? is there a motive? what was at that drove this guy into this weird -- that caused him to kill, caused him to change the lives of hundreds
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and hundreds of people. everybody here, shannon, i can tell you, everyone that lives here is touched by this in some way. we all know people that were either killed or were there, were maimed, or shot, or knew someone who was. this was a very personal investigation for law enforcement. >> shannon: we have to remember there are hundreds of people recovering from us. we know that media outlets are pressing to get a lot of things under seal. there were supposed to be a hearing december 7, kicked to a different judge in january. maybe we will learn more then. randy sutton, thank you so much for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: coming up, the secret service as it was not involved in the termination process or resignation process of one of president trump's advisors. former contestant on his tv show. what really happened? will try to figure that out. another woman stepped forward to accuse and encrypt all my congressional democrat of him wanted sexual advances. what he is saying tonight, late-breaking development next. this is electricity. ♪
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>> shannon: secret service is denying any involvement in their termination or resignation of one of president trump's advisors. former "apprentice" contestant, omarosa manigault, had reports that she was physically removed from the white house last night. secret service said they were not involved with that. she wants her to see the president before being escorted off the property. president trump tweeting,
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thank you to her on twitter, wishing her "continued success. breaking with house minority leader nancy pelosi, who has called on him to step aside, other top democrats have stood by nevada democrat congressman rubin key win. they say that the rising star of the democratic congress party,n accused of sexual misconduct. tonight, the nevada independent is publishing a lengthy interview with a second woman who says that he touched her on her thighs, on three separate occasions without her consent. all kinds of harassing text messages, as well. that is according to her. meanwhile, surprise comment from a congresswoman, who reportedly said, "i saw her yesterday with her cleavage are so deep it was down to the floor and from what i have seen, it is an invitatio" she has since clarified that and she never meant to suggest that
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women are blame for harassment. back with us, mollie hemingway, and political congressional reporter, elana schor. thank you for coming back friday want to make sure that we read this: clarification. she says under no circumstances is it the victim's fault that they are harassed in any way, i share the stories from the time in the me, too legislation and how we can elevate the decorum and the dress code to protect women from what is a pervasive problem here and in society at large. elana, your reaction? >> paul ryan made it okay for women to wear sleeveless dresses after nancy pelosi didn't change it. i'm not sure what she means. she seems to be suggesting it should be more rigorous. the bottom line is, democrats are facing troubles, given al franken and john conyers and kihuen. this is off message. >> shannon: is interesting, we had this allegation against him,
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mollie. he said this came up i was elected, the d triple c and nancy pelosi looked into it, they were satisfied with what they found, she went on to campaign for me and raise money and do those things. she says that's not accurate as to how that went down. we have a second woman tonight. here's what he said to the nevada independent, "during my ten years a legislator, i dated several different women out of respect for their privacy, i want to discuss my communications or any other details of those relationships." but this woman who presented the text messages and all those things said "we never dated, it was about kind of relationship." where do we go from here? >> it's a fine statement to make him had they been dating. there was no indication of this woman and as member dated. having said that, this is the second story based on a an anonymous source. the idea that someone would be forced to step down based on anonymous accusations that would really, i think, you can definitely find it to be boorish behavior, way too aggressive, sexually inappropriate even, but not really at the level that you would normally see someone
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stepping down. i think this might be the prime type of situation where voters can decide whether this means their criteria for what they want in a congressman or not as opposed to just using the mob to get rid of him. >> shannon: on the other side of the aisle, congressman break they are told, a republican, already in the house ethics investigation based on a settlement he had with a staffer. we have not had a former male staff are stepping forward to say that he was making really disgusting, inappropriate conduct on my comments, so much of the male staffer felt like it was a hostile environment. he put in his notice. this is not something that is about party and people who are trying to combat this problem, elana, say there should be nothing partisan about it. there has to be consistency across the board with how these cases are handled. >> absolutely. both parties recognize that. the problem is, they have so far to come in terms of writing a bill that can tackle this problem. it's clear that training won't cut it. but do you dismantle the current system for handling the complaints and replace it with
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something new, as a congressman says clocks to your model that thing from the ground up? how do you change the standard on anonymity? the timeline for filing complaints? >> shannon: there's a push for unmasking anyone who has been involved in the settlements. you think what will happen, mollie? >> particularly when his tax payer funded, it is very disturbing that this is a practice. it just seems that there is such a range of behavior from truly unacceptable, the type of thing from what you should be driven out of polite society, to set that is much more borderline. it would be helpful if we had some sexual ethics that we understood and agreed to instead of flipping from, we had a culture that frankly accepted all sorts of horrible behavior, it is not just in politics, media, all sorts of industries. you don't want to flip to the other side and you don't want to make it where people can't have redemption for bad behavior, where they feel there is no way forward. >> shannon: i don't know about you two, but working abroad this environment and being here for years, i feel like these
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cases will continue to crop up, based on rumors we have all heard over the years. i feel like it's just the beginning. >> probably so. we are hearing there will be big reports of 20 or 30 members of congress, at the stage where you are bundling cases, you know you have a bad problem. >> shannon: at this time, we hear from people who are still afraid to come forward because they fee ..ey fee worry about the future implications to their career. even if you do win a settlement it doesn't mean that other people will be gung ho to hire you. >> this is why everyone should be think about treating each other well. >> shannon: use common sense. great to see you for a second time. thank you very much. in kentucky, we are hearing the sheriff's office is confirming that a republican state legislature, a lawmaker, dan johnson, shot and killed himself earlier this evening. johnson had recently denied allegations of sexual misconduct. he was accused of sexually assaulting a teenage girl in the basement of his home. at least one. earlier tonight, johnson posted a message to his facebook that
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has since been removed. it read that ptsd is a sickness that will take my life. i cannot handle it any longer. it has won this life but have an is my home. johnson was 57 years old. coming up, a mormon was missionary who went to venezuela for love, now in serious trouble, and possibly stock is a pond between two countries with greater political differences. his mother joins us, pleading for help. >> he's about as innocent as a kid as you can find out there. he is the light of our
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>> shannon: echoes of otto warmbier, the american student who was arrested for a allegedly stealing a north korean banner, returning home to die with his parents at his bedside. a 25-year-old former mormon missionary from utah is ill, facing a trial and a socialist country that is extremely hostile to the u.s. and his parents are worried for his life. a venezuelan judge ruling that josh will must stand trial on weapons charges. his mother, lori holt, joins us now. lori, thank you so much.
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we appreciate your time and we know this will be very difficult. >> thank you. >> shannon: up apparently there was a hearing yesterday. josh and his wife has been held for more than a year, is my understanding. the u.s. embassy official was there but not allowed to go to the courtroom and they are saying that josh must go to trial on multiple weapons charges. there have been allegations that he was stockpiling weapons. what can you tell us? because that is correct. we have witnesses that have proven that he is innocent. they brought the weapons in. out of the 18 hearings that he has had scheduled, he has only actually been before a judge of three times. that was for the defense, to give their part, the prosecution to give their part, and then yesterday, the judge we know didn't want to give what she knew she should give.
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instead, she turned it over to make it go to trial. >> shannon: we've got a lot about audio that we want people to hear that gives a bit of cash a look and a lesson of how josh seems to be faring. we want to let folks listen to this. >> i'm dizzy. i can't think. my stomach hurts. it's super bad. i don't know what to do. >> shannon: laurie, how do you feel hearing that, your son? >> [crying] i don't ever want to not see my son alive again. just what has happened with otto otto, josh sounds like he's on his deathbed to me.
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that is not my josh. it's his voice but he is pleading for help. and i don't know how else to get him, i hope to go to the public and put the pressure on our government to do something, do something more than what you have done so far, because obviously, it's not working. >> shannon: i know that senator hatch, your home senator from your home state of utah, has been very vocal on this, the state department has addressed this publicly, as well. the president has been very vocal in many of these cases and fighting to people home. have you been able to have any contact with the white house or anyone that has offered you hope your? >> besides senator hatch, i did visit the white house. president trump was there but i did not visit with him. they did not really tell me
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anything. i don't think she really knew the whole story about what had happened. and so i kind of get the story all the time of, we are working on it, things are in motion. but nobody ever tells me what's in motion. so for me, it's like, i am his mother. i'm not going to tell the world what you are doing. i just need to know what you are doing. give me some help and give me an idea of a time frame of when you are going to get him out or how you are trying to get him out. >> shannon: for every day, this is the number one thought on your mind. laurie, please keep us apprised of what is happening and we'll stand by for a thank you so much for your time. our prayers are with you. >> tha it's a small finger...a worm! like, a dagger? a tiny sword? bread...breadstick? a matchstick!
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